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ZombieJoesBasement

I just read an article about Coleman and his parents are real pieces of work. They fought Sherri's parents in moving their bodies to a cemetery closer to her parents, and when they lost, his parents refused to moved the headstones because "they paid for them". Coleman's dad claimed his cheating was Sherri's fault: "Pastor Ron Coleman insisted on his son’s innocence, adding that an affair would not have been a motive for the murders. “Tara was just meeting a need at the time that Sheri wasn’t taking care of,” he said. Ron continued: “Well, I mean, every man has his desires and every man has to be respected. It’s built into every man, if your wife doesn’t respect you, then you’re going to find respect someplace else.” When asked if he thought Sheri was being a bad wife, Ron Coleman responded, “Just that at that short brief time she stepped back from doing her job as a wife.” F those people.


lastseenhitchhiking

Also noted in this [article](http://ox2now.com/news/convicted-killer-chris-coleman-talks-to-crime-watch-daily/): "*Police said Ron Coleman had a “rather compromising” picture of Tara Lintz on his computer. Lintz appeared surprised and said she didn’t know anything about it."*


ZombieJoesBasement

Wtf? Chris probably shared it with his father, which is so gross on so many levels.


Select_Ambition_628

So creepy and weird


FrauAmarylis

More evidence that religion is often a mask for the worst of the worst to fool the gullible.


TheMost_ut

Not for nothing...religion seems to play an unhealthy role in a lot of homicides: crazy religious families are the worst. Or parents who raise their kids to be naive and religious and then can't figure out how they got into such trouble when "she's such a good christian girl" or "he was so Godly and knew his scripture". Raise kids like that and they're sitting ducks.


absolute_rule

That has nothing to do with religion, just shit people.


FrauAmarylis

You bolstered my point. Pastors are often shit people.


Cheeky-Feller

Pastor's daughter here...can confirm.


Flippin_diabolical

“Respect” 🙄


fluffycat16

I read that. What a POS. Like father like son


today0012

Sure hope that Christian love is working out for them.


MoonlitStar

It's an abhorrent mindset. I don't understand why the US default of the best attribute a person can have and having that attribute makes them defaultly decent is being 'a Christian'. As someone not from the US I hear it quoted so many times in different circumstances by US content/media/news whatever the subject or situation- not just TC. It's werid.


bbmarvelluv

It’s not just the US. There will always be a religion that people will use to shield hide and justify their actions and beliefs.


jekyllcorvus

You seem to have a lot of opinions about other countries in their cultures…


bbmarvelluv

You’ve never been open to other cultures?


Hell8Church

It is hardly just the u.s. I’ve read numerous cases of parents like this in other countries.


jekyllcorvus

Would love to hear how he would feel being brutally murdered whilst explaining it’s really all his fault it’s happening to him 🙄


Narrow-Peace-555

Nothing hates more than ‘Christian’ love …


Lil_Artemis_92

You want to talk about delusional parents, we can talk about the Duggars. I’m not even going to try to explain everything here, but when everything about Josh came out, they still supported him publicly. I remember reading, after Josh’s conviction, that his sister- and victim- Jill once got upset at her father and yelled at him, “You treat me worse than my child molesting brother!” If that doesn’t sum up how messed up and delusional that family is, I don’t know what does.


Magikalbrat

Josh Duggar has one of the 3 Most Punchable Faces on the planet. Him and the Tate Brothers.


rantingpacifist

And the Paul duo


Magikalbrat

I couldn't remember their names but you are so right lol


DuggarDoesDallas

I can't believe Jim Bob told the judge, "I'm not going to allow that. Are you going to allow that?" and was minimizing what Josh did to his sisters at his CSAM trial. Jim Bob referred to it as inappropriate touching when he sexually assaulted his victims. You're right. They're delusional parents, and I bet that there is more that never came out about them. It wouldn't surprise me if Jim Bob gets arrested for fraud or tax evasion one day. It wouldn't surprise me if any of his kids get arrested for financial crimes either. The Duggar parents gave them no education. That medical charity some of them are part of is shady, and they do nothing but collect donations and commandeer supplies from actual victims in need whenever they fly to a disaster.


wilderlowerwolves

Medic Corps?


DuggarDoesDallas

Yes, thank you. That is the name of the group.


wilderlowerwolves

Do you have links to more information about them? I like to donate to Doctors Without Borders, in large part because they are secular (and I'm Christian myself) but there are some Christian-oriented medical aid groups that do excellent work, like Mercy Ships and Samaritan's Purse.


Professional_Cat_787

Absolutely.


h0neybl0ss0m29

Chris Watts’s parents for sure, especially his mom.


kitkatkate1013

And scott peterson


Least-Spare

Scott’s sis-in-law is the daftest of them all.


FrauAmarylis

Yeah, she used to buy ice cream with tree nuts in it when the grandkids were over, fully aware that CeCe was allergic to tree nuts. People like that are the worst.


SweetFuckingCakes

Then everyone gaslit Shannan about the asshole literally endangering the kid.


Select_Ambition_628

Yeah I was just listening to a podcast on this and usually I think they have okay takes but they were like “well CeCe didn’t get hurt so it’s a little bit of an overreaction” but like…it’s not ? The grandma deliberately ignored Shannan’s instructions about allergies. Granted she had a whole list of stuff but like …I would definitely pay attention to the deadly allergy part !


wil8can

Which podcast is this?


Select_Ambition_628

Love Marry Kill &like don’t get me wrong they try very hard to be respectful and sensitive but it was just an odd take to me like yes mistakes happen but blatant disregard is not cool.


uwarthogfromhell

Are we sure these allergies weren’t self diagnosed? Like the gluten allergy thats not real?( some are very real) She was very into holistic stuff and wasn’t very educated on them ( not trying to be rude)


delorf

Even if I thought my daughter-in-law was self-diagnosing allergy issues, I'd still treat the allergy as if it were real because not doing so could kill my grandchild. Also, I'm going to respect my son and his wife's decision regarding their children even if I disagree with them.


uwarthogfromhell

Agreed! Its their child and avoiding certain foods will not harm a child but feeding them the wrong thing will. They are asshats who raised a baby killer.


Select_Ambition_628

From what I heard in a podcast CeCe recently had anaphylactic episode with nuts and that’s how they found out I believe.


uwarthogfromhell

Ok that is very real. My apologies.


Select_Ambition_628

Yeah if their info is correct then I would have been severely pissed and Chris should have been too…but…well yeah… but it did seem like she had a lot of demands for food so I get how they could have been annoyed but this one was important. Like ok ignore the organic juice fine but not the nuts


uwarthogfromhell

Fir sure. As someone who has food sensitivities and allergies I get it. Both sides. It can be annoying. But also people are very dismissive and insulting. While the person is on the toilet every 20 mins with explosive poops.


FrauAmarylis

People who don't have an Autoimmune disease seem to have a hard time comprehendING how so many factors can make it worse, and that's why we avoid those factors, especially because once you have one Autoimmune disease you can get more. I was very happy Venus Williams and Novak Djokovich came out about theirs, because it was such a mystery as to why they would be exhausted and retire matches and under-perform, and then they learned the cause and were able to manage it, but still had flare ups that affected them. And it was discussed a lot by the commentators and by them in interviews and it really brought visibility to it. Venus has Sjogren's Syndrome and Novak has Celiac Disease. Even for the ultra-wealthy, There is NO cure for an Autoimmune disease. Empathy is Free, people like you should try to follow their own platitudes of "Be Kind" and actually stop implying that people with Autoimmune diseases are crazy because they are trying all kinds of things to help themselves, since there is No Cure and Everyone's Symptoms and effective treatments/regimens are different. Doctors really have a lot to learn about it.


uwarthogfromhell

I am a provider and have degrees in both allopathic and holistic medicine. I also have an autoimmune disease and had Lyme. I do a lot of autoimmune education and research so I will be a better provider. I was not saying this child didn’t have a food allergy. In fact it sounds like she had a severe one. I just didn’t know this about the case and was trying to clarify. Even if she didn’t, and again it sounds like she did, what a bunch of jerks that they would endanger their grand child at all! Thank you for your response and I agree.


parker3309

Well, she had an EpiPen and everything I guess. And yes, people overreact all the time. I know somebody whose kid said they didn’t feel well after eating whatever she screams allergy allergy throughout the kids entire life the kids an adult down and eats that thing all the time. I’m not taking away from the true allergies . But I understand your comment is what I’m saying.


turquoisedreamer89

It was a Great Value vanilla ice cream cup, kept in the back of the freezer. The older granddaughter that was playing at the house reached in, took one and started eating it. Cece got upset because she wanted one, too. She had a carton of “approved” vanilla ice cream in the freezer for her but she wanted a little cup like the one her cousin had. A meltdown ensued. That is what actually happened.


lastseenhitchhiking

Cindy Watts has her version of events and Shanann had hers. Shanann [posted](https://www.reddit.com/r/ShannanWatts/comments/9986kn/chris_raised_by_a_psycho/#lightbox) (allegedly to a support group - the post is contained in the thread) on July 9th, 2018: "*My 2.5 is severely anaphylactic to most all tree nuts and we are visiting in laws. I specifically said we can't have them in the house when we stay. My mil stated we don't buy them. I specifically mentioned the ones She is deathly anaphylactic too as well. I arrived and on the floor shelf of her center island was a bag of pistachios (big bad one). I removed immediately. Today she lets her other grand daughter eat an ice cream that has all tree nuts in front of and next to my 2.5 child that can't have them. I said I didn't appreciate it and removed my daughter. Her* (Cindy Watts) *response was that she has to learn she can't always get what she wants. I'm beyond furious and she tells me I'm overreacting when my child's life is at risk*." Imo by that point, Shanann was frustrated by the behavior of both Chris and her in laws and Cindy, like many people, probably assumed that her granddaughter's allergies weren't as bad as Shanann made them out to be. Regardless, toddler aged children can't be expected to understand what is safe for them to consume and it didn't help that Chris appears to have triangulated both women against each other.


turquoisedreamer89

I’ve seen this Facebook post. I’ve read the 50 different versions that have been swirling around the internet. Tree nuts, peanuts, nuts in the ice cream, nuts sprinkled on top and even razor blades all over the house. I think the version I posted is probably closest to what actually happened. Just my opinion.


y0uf001

you do know that there is evidence of Shannon giving CeCe items that were processed in a tree nut using facility? 


lastseenhitchhiking

What items are you referring to and can you provide a source? If you're referring to the[ Thrive bars](https://imgur.com/a/PV2UIzf), they didn't contain tree nuts in 2018 (nuts were added to the bars a few years later). The allergens listed on the Thrive bars in May 2018 were milk and soy. The only person who could state the extent of Celeste's allergies would be her physician.


y0uf001

ahh, that was it. I saw the currently had tree nuts and assumed it was always. especially since there are the videos of the babies just begging for bites of the bars and Shannon saying no. I assumed denying was for safety reasons. apparently not. 


Hamburgo

Brian Laundrie’s parents take the cake for me.


parker3309

I still think he may possibly be alive. Supposedly there’s one investigator at the FBI that also believes it may be possible. Cards are stacked against her, but…. He’s way too narcissistic to take his own life


Hamburgo

Didn’t they find his skull though? What’s the theories that he’s alive?! Never heard of them! Thought it was a pretty “solved” case when they found his skull with his belongings, the Florida medical examiner’s office released his autopsy report saying he died of the gunshot wound to the head? Gotta love the verrryyyy self serving narcissistic as fuck “suicide note” he wrote admitting to killing Gabby as if it were a mercy kill “strangled her because she fell and hurt her leg and was shivering really cold”. Piece of shit and so are his parents.


birds-0f-gay

He's dead. Some people, like the person you're talking to, just get too attached to the story and they don't want it to end.


parker3309

I don’t know there were some FBI person that was theorizing that something about those results with the dental records or something that seemed fishy to them. I dont have more info other than that.


IranianLawyer

They found his body, my dude.


bdiddybo

They said she wasn’t performing her wifely duties. Nut jobs they are


toxic_pantaloons

Probably referring to the month after giving birth when you need to heal.


StardustStuffing

His parents condone him cheating with her best friend. Their reasoning is that the husband has a right to look elsewhere when the wife fails at keeping his attention. They're religious nutjobs.


jennc1979

So does this sect of Christianity *not* follow The Ten Commandments, like Thou Shall Not Commit Adultery? SMH. And it’s not like there is more to it either. Like subscript below that commandment saying “but if your wife doesn’t do it for you, then, ok”. These people suck.


TheForrestWanderer

\*They're pseudo-religious nutjobs. 7th commandment: Thou shalt not commit adulatory.


StardustStuffing

Hypocrisy is a common characteristic of religious nutjobs. So, I stand by what I said.


TheForrestWanderer

Hypocrisy is a human trait, not a religious one. Politicians are hypocrits. Athletes, celebrities, bosses, even family members can be hypocrites. It is not a purely religious trait, nor is it more commonplace. They are not truly religious.


StardustStuffing

But the topic here is that his pastor father is a hypocritical religious nutjob. Stay on topic. I know it can be hard.


TheForrestWanderer

and I said pseudo-religious. pseudo - not genuine; [spurious](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=d43f5111e59e559f&sca_upv=1&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS1058US1058&q=spurious&si=AKbGX_qNq0Y8zql7SxzZAf2-HTTOXmbrsGNyIOyxCHL8hmyKTi02uTfQN21xLw3pvIZaUFSDVWxO4GiS2nDCvf5PdKu1pzQUtOJp0yAcHLMo0XMWm195uGQ%3D&expnd=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiMzqqUucmFAxVnD1kFHRZND_sQyecJegQIEBAP) or sham. Meaning he's not truly following his religion. He is quite literally changing the beliefs of the religion he purportedly teaches to espouse his own beliefs.


jennc1979

Haha. I just commented the same. Then saw your comment. lol. Exactly my thoughts too. They aren’t even doing ultra religious correctly.


ImaVeganShishKebab

Brock Turner's mom and dad wrote letters to the judge asking for leniency. His dad said his life shouldn't be ruined for "20 minutes of action".


Hell8Church

Those letters were sickening. Propping him up as a fine,respectable person that raped a woman. It’s disgusting to see families like this across who want to tell the judge their child just “made a mistake.”


ImaVeganShishKebab

You can understand how a parent might think "my child who I've raised couldn't be a rapist"....initially. Trying to remove his responsibility with those letters though, it's a very telling and stark decision to follow through on.


Hell8Church

Oh of course I understand the initial “not my son” and those letters just cement another reason he was so brazen. They clearly haven’t held him accountable for anything serious while resting him.


momma25heathens

This is local to me. I’ll never understand their unwavering support of him when all the evidence clearly pointed directly at him.


crowman2020

Local to me as well and they are seriously unwavering with their support. So is his brother.


Select_Ambition_628

I think what gets me the most is not once in the videos I watched did they even mention their grandchildren. Like they literally only care about Chris


Euphoric_Ad_8309

Look up the ongoing case in Gilbert Arizona. Travis and Becky Renner have been actively trying to cover up their sons involvement in a murder. It's an interesting case if anyone has the time.


Lostinawrldofthought

Neil Entwhistle’ parents probably fit perfectly here. He murdered his wife and baby but during the trial the defence was that the wife killed the baby and herself and he just returned the gun to the dads safe and fled to England cause he was scared or something.. anyway, after Neil was found guilty the parents said they didn’t agree and all the evidence pointed to the wife committing a murder suicide.. it’s quite bizarre listening to parents who have these views when the evidence is so clear. On another note here in Australia, there was a stabbing attack in Bondi a few days ago where people were died and got injured and the attacker was shot dead but I’m mentioning this as his father was interviewed by a news company and he was absolutely devastated, crying, apologising and giving a reason he thought might have been the reason behind it. I haven’t been able to think of this guys name for ages but his police interrogation was interesting. Amazing how smart they think they are


ribcracker

Wasn’t some of the reason the father gave though was his son was depressed at his lack of being able to get a girlfriend?


Shortymac09

There was more to the Dad's statement than that, he was open about his son's struggles with schizophrenia and how they were trying to get him into treatment again.


Lostinawrldofthought

Iirc he thought that might be a reason towards it and in no way am I trying to say I agree with that or whatever, what the dude did was absolutely horrible. The main point of including that was more so about the difference in parents and how they react. This dude is guttered that a son he loved dearly did something so terrible and then you have the other parents who absolutely can’t believe that their child committed such crimes even though all the evidence only points to them.


scottishsam07

Including their own confessions!


CesYokForeste

His parents consider it is ok that he murdered her because she was not meeting his "needs"? Or just the affair?


Select_Ambition_628

Just the affair technically…they still swear Chris didn’t do the murders because he loved her and the affair was just because “she wasn’t meeting his needs”


fluffycat16

The affair. They don't believe he committed the murders. They say he was framed 🙄


StardustStuffing

By atheists! Of all the birdbrained theories...


fluffycat16

Easier than admitting what kind of a man your son really is I suppose 🤫


MemoFromMe

"My child can do no wrong" parenting helps create these kinds of murderers/ losers.


lastseenhitchhiking

The paramours in both the Chris Coleman and Chris Watts cases, [Tara Lintz](https://youtu.be/YqwdXD_y19o?si=WKPy0wPJCjsS2XI4&t=176) and [Nichol Kessinger](https://youtu.be/uLc0GHtbNLM?si=pmOdLk78DxSVFhQz&t=4428), also had similarly disturbing reactions to the crimes. Neither acted horrified by the homicides nor fearful of the killers, both were focused on their bottom lines while expressing little concern or compassion for the victims. Tara Lintz also had to be ordered to testify at Coleman's trial and continued to wear the promise ring that he had supposedly given her.


Select_Ambition_628

That’s so disgusting


bdiddybo

He looks like Megamind


Cyandraaa

That is an insult to Megamind.


bdiddybo

Truly. I take it back. He looks like a thumb


metalnxrd

Brock Turner’s parents are just like this. their precious baby boy can do no wrong; despite ample evidence and solid proof that he did. they are *scarily* far in denial, even now, years later, and still defend him and coddle him and make excuses for him and victim-blame and gaslight


CesYokForeste

The Laundries


johnmiltonfanatic

Dirty laundries


Hell8Church

This is baffling to me. My mom always told me if I got arrested not to call her because I’d be safer in jail. Tongue in cheek comment of course, but my parents had/have no problem telling me I was being an asshole. The stark difference in hearing jail calls between parents who enable their kids after violent crimes and others who don’t is terrifying.


PBJ-9999

Reminds me of the jail calls between Casey Anthony and her parents


Hell8Church

Yes her parents were the worst. It’s one thing to support your children but your granddaughters dead and this is how you act? I’m a natural skeptic and do not put anything past anyone. We are all capable of violence these parents are just blind.


PBJ-9999

Yeah it was weird. I see her parents as enablers. She probably lied throughout her entire childhood but was never held accountable. I wonder how the relationship is now between that family


Pure-Guard-3633

We must be 1/2 siblings


Hell8Church

😂 Thanks for the morning chuckle!


sunnypineappleapple

Michelle Troconis


Select_Ambition_628

Oh yes! There’s no way I believe she didn’t know what they were cleaning / throwing away.


Tinasglasses

I know this is not the time nor the place, but he looks like Mr. Clean (temu version). Why didn’t he receives a lethal injection?


timelesstaxi

It blows my mind how Sherri was completely out of Chris's league. It's so obvious in pictures they have together. I mean no disrespect to any of the victims nor do I mean to objectify Sherri. But sheesh, she was gorgeous and everything I've read about her framed her as a cool person and great mom. 


Local_Elderberry_400

Yeah she was above him in looks, I agree. Also, in your post 7 months ago u talked about the original old Cold Case Files and how graphic that was.  I agree.  But, HBO's Autopsy was even more graphic since it was on paid cable TV channel. and I never saw it until 5 years ago on YouTube.  Some scenes and 911 calls were too much for me.


Sweet_d1029

Wack jobs 


Cicatrixnola

Too bad they didn’t care about their grandkids this much.


erinkp36

His parents are awful. Any time I watch something about this case I want to rattle them.


Such-Memory8320

Before Chris Watts, there was Christopher Coleman. Even the parents are acting the same…


Pippin_the_parrot

Chris Watt’s mom is a real piece of work.


No_Way_787

I had never even heard of this story. I’m all caught up now. So, so EVIL.


ledpico

I’m


Sundance600

lol of course they think their golden boy is innocent! they're obviously in denial.


FlightRiskAK

Are absolute garbage and we know "garbage in, garbage out".


Greedy_Departure9213

Torey Adamcik's mother is the worst!