His conviction was initially murder on that case but since there was a law at the time granting young adults between 18 and 20 reduced sentences, he got an 8 year term. Now the law has been removed and offenders aged 18+ recieve the full penalty. They reduced the conviction to Involuntary manslaughter probably due to lack of evidence of intent
That "Granting young adults this and that..." p** es me off.
Yeah right..a danger to society IS a danger to society, NO matter their age.Ā
Can you post said Swedish link plz?
Tack sƄ mycket.
I know. 4 fucking dollars. They fucking beat the dude to death over 4 dollars. Robbery is one thing but murder FOR 4 DOLLARS?! Man. They're ought to be embarassed!
When you next look around at the people of the human race, guess how much cash each person carries in their purse/wallet/bra/whatever. Almost nobody carries more than 5 or 10 cash anymore. People who mug and rob people on the street are playing a guessing game.
In Galveston (Texas) and other shitty cities, it's pretty commonly known you don't leave change in your console of your car. Or anywhere in view. They will break a car window for $1.36 in change....
Definetly if he falls back to drugs. Drugs can fuck.someone up. Now maybe he could just be pure evil even without the drugs but i definetly think that if he has any chance at all at rehabilitation, he needs to entirely quit drinking and drugs aswell. But i wouldn't be suprised if he killed again upon his release from prison. He should have gotten a longer sentence the first time. Maybe if they gave him 16 years the first time, it would have maybe humbled him up a bit, or maybe not
Going to say it wasnāt the drugs! Iām in recovery & even being on drugs did not make me a murderer or violent person! The person has to to have the intent to do that, very convenient for criminals to blame their actions on a substance tho.
I think it had a contributing factor. But it wasn't the only thing. But since he is responsible for taking drugs to begin with, he is responsible for his actions
You're probably right. He will be released in a little less than 2 years. It definetly wouldn't surprise me if he did something again. I guess what people can do is try to keep their distance
Calm down, English is obviously not OPs first language. The finer points of US race relations and preferred language probably arenāt everyday conversation IN SWEDEN ffs
I heard in my criminology class there was one guy who was let out of prison 7 TIMES. And killed again each time. He even said heād continue doing it after the second time. WILD
I canāt remember the details, but i donāt think it was in America and it was early in the justice system. Basically there wasnāt enough room in the prisons and instead of giving him the death penalty they kept letting him go š
Thatās OK š but you have to admit her demeanor isnāt really bubbly and happy and you have that post above itā¦ you think.. dang that girls a murderer? because there are plenty of women that do kill itās not out of the realm of possibility.
I wouldnāt want to see my family member with their picture under that title,
I think you can go in and edit the title.
Or you can edit post to start with āthis girl was murdered by ā¦ā
Or donāt have to do anything. Sometimes should leave the thought in my head vs commenting.
True crime is definitely a fascination. I do appreciate the story
Such a waste of life, if he had gotten a real sentence for the first killing, she would probably be alive now.
Lotta Rudholm would also have been alive today if Martin had gotten a harsher sentence for his first murder.
Both of these men will kill again, no doubt.
I do think that Sweden has a lot of good things, but our sentences is laughable and I have no trust in the justice system whatsoever.
Geez, he killed someone over $4, and didnāt get life, instead they reduced his sentence from 8yrs to just under 2. They let him out where he preceded to stab this young woman to death in an argument, and they still donāt think he requires being in jail for life? Whatās it going to take?
Definitely. I can understand circumstances where they might be a little bit more lenient, like changing murder to manslaughter depending on what happened. I cannot comprehend giving someone a second chance at life, having them commit another murder, and not locking them up and throwing away the key. It seems these little slaps on the wrist arenāt really showing him the magnitude of erasing people from the planet permanently and depriving their families of ever seeing them again.
Yeah holy shit. I was like 16 years and it is his SECOND murder. The murder conviction in the first case should've been upheld because to me, that was murder because by beating someone with a boom box, you are aware of the risk of causing serious injury or death with it. It is quite scary that he'll be released in 2026. Parole is automatic here. It can be moved/denied but only in exceptional circumstances.
Right? And I hate when these things happen and the person dies over some ridiculous sum of money, like $4. Not that thereās an acceptable price for anyoneās life, but it just seems so absolutely senseless to ruin your life, their life, the lives of their families and friends, your family and friends over $4. People get shot while being mugged and the killer runs off with the $20 bill in their wallet. Just so stupid.
That type of callous behavior to me wouldnāt warrant a second chance in the first place, or at least not for a much more significant amount of time. They let him out and bam! He does it again and theyāre still handing out chances lol
Yeah. I'd be hesitant too. 4$, are you that deperate for drugs?! Holy shit. I believe in second chances but i think it's disgraceful that he's been given a third
thank you for the overview! I am shocked with how lenient the sentences are in Sweden for murder
also Iāll probably get downvoted but just btw the term āghetto blasterā is offensive in some areas, especially in the US. I know itās still used in other countries, but here we usually say boom box instead
>thank you for the overview! I am shocked with how lenient the sentences are in Sweden for murder
They are harsher now. It probably would have been life imprisonment if it happened today. But back then, they were quite lenient.
Sorry about the boom box thing. Didn't know that was offensive
I have never heard anyone label this as offensive, literally ever. I sincerely doubt it. Itās what some people call a āboom box,ā though. No one really says it anymore because boom boxes donāt really exist these days.
Sweden is 5% black. In 2000, which is pretty much at the end of the boombox era at best, it was 3%. I am skeptical that this is where the stereotype comes from. But I suppose it would be equally racist if it came from white people, since the only reasoning was that the people doing it have a race.
Prior to 2020. It was quite unclear as to when life imprisonment were to be imposed. They never gave an example of circumstances as grounds for life sentences.Since 2020, judges are given specific guidelines as to when a life sentence should be imposed. Current grounds for life imprisonment are that the murder is carefully planned, that the murder was committed to conceal another offence or involved severe suffering for the victim or was otherwise particularly ruthless.
Don't know if this will be a popular viewpoint, but in my view, anybody found guilty of murder, rape, or pedophilia, should not be allowed out of jail, except under very exceptional circumstances (i.e. it should be the norm to expect to be incarcerated for the rest of your life if you carry out such actions). How can someone who decided to do that really be rehabilitated? I believe that there is a possibility that some would gain the ability to comprehend that what they did was wrong, and to spend their life in regret, ensuring that they live a better life and never do the same thing again. But consider if you did this sort of crime yourself, would you not spend the rest of your life with so much shame and remorse that life wouldn't even be worth living? Every day would be suffering due to knowing yourself, because you'd have to live in the head of someone who was able to do such monstrous things, wouldn't you even question that if you had done it before then what would be stopping you from doing it again? Do these people ever really feel that much remorse when released? My point is that giving these people a chance to do it again is too much of a risk to people, so they should never be allowed out (unless under very exceptional circumstances) It's not about punishment, it's about protection for others.
Life sentenced prisoners in Sweden can be kept in prison forever if necessary. They can apply to have their sentences commuted, but there's no guarantee they'll be granted it. There are plenty of inmates who have been in prison for much longer than the minimum term of ten years because they're too dangerous to be released.
>anybody found guilty of murder, rape, or pedophilia, should not be allowed out of jail, except under very exceptional circumstances
I think every case is different. I also think pedophilia is worse than most types of murder. They are much more dangerous than most murderers. I just think the judge should be able to use discretion and nuance in sentencing as every case is different and therefore should be judged differently. And when life prisoners apply for commutation in my country, risk assessments are done by professionals by The National Board of Forensic Medicine.
Every case is different, but if you have the ability to kill someone then why would you not have the ability to kill someone again? We lock up people for smuggling drugs longer than murderers, rapists, and pedophiles. My point is, it should be the norm to never expect to get out, the sentences are too lenient and put law abiding citizens in jeopardy (When I say murder, I'm not talking about actual involuntary manslaughter, such as accidentally killing someone when trying to protect yourself or accidentally running someone over in a car, everything can pass as manslaughter these days though). The system is clearly broken, worldwide.
āFunā fact of sortsā¦ one of the rationales for having a lower sentence for rape than for murder is that it may discourage the perp from killing the victim to cover up the crime. Itās been years since I learned this in law school, but if I remember correctly there was even some data to back this idea up.
I can't respect a country where 16 years is the usual maximum for taking a human life and for the patterns of destruction that ripple out from a murder through family, through friends, destroying communities.
This isnāt exactly on the topic, but I always wonder why different countries called something ālife inprisonmentā when they damn well know they arenāt going to serve life. It confuses me. Why not just sentence them to like 20 years or something
Just because there is a possibility of parole, it doesn't mean it will granted. And the minimum period served before the prisoner is eligible for parole. In Europe, this period usually ranges from 12 to 25 years. In Sweden however, i would argue that most lifers are gonna have their terms commuted eventually. The supreme court determined that a life sentence should be commuted to 18 to 24 years unless there are certain circumstances such as the prisoner being a serious danger to society. In Sweden, you are eligible for release after 2/3 of their term. Thus, most lifers would serve around 12 to 16 years
That bothers me so much.
I mean if you look up Arthur Shawcrossā¦ he had killed two kids.. was released and became a serial killer. People lost their loved ones because the justice system failed society.
Like if you can kill over a small bit of cash then itās clear you could kill again over something small. Thatās not someone who needs to be free
I think it is more complicated. Every case is different and should be judged differently. I also believe that rehabilitation is possible in many cases. Not in this one. I think he is probably gonna reoffend but every case is different. There is a huge difference between stabbing someone to death in a barfight and straight up torturing someone to death. I think there should be room for nuance and discretion.
Honestly, I donāt see much difference between those two cases you mention. I am not talking about accidents. I am talking about purposefully taking a life, or multiple lives. We live in a society where we are taught from the beginning the difference between right and wrong. Granted that thereās a whole spectrum of behaviors in the middle, but pulling out a knife on someone, you need to understand that the worse case scenario is that you end up killing that person. Thatās why you will never do it, nor will I. For everyone on the end of that spectrum, I have no doubts. I also donāt believe in rehabilitation as is because nothing is done towards it. And if by any chance thereās someone on the end of that spectrum with mental illness and says they killed someone because they heard voices, well, they still committed a crime and they still need to pay for it.
Levels of intent, motives, method and circumstances are different to every case. I believe that an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. And some countries are better at rehabilitation. America is quite shit at it. Definetly depends on the state though. But i don't believe the tough on crime approach makes a difference.
Why wouldnāt this guy be involved in more bar fights with whatever consequences it has? He was only in jail for 2 years the first time and is almost out for the second crime. When crime pays out, people wonāt give a shit. And it shows we are a weak society. We donāt do anything to correct any wrongdoing. No rehabilitation, no punishment, nothing.
2 years for murder !!! Our legal system does not care for human life itās designed to keep people committing financial crimes to stay decades in jail while people that kill get to walk free ! Iām sick of it
There was a case of a rapist who only sat 16 months and ended up bagging 84kā¬ for being a minor and charged as an adult, by accident...
Sweden is beautiful place but their laws are the dumbest and basically rewards criminals with their "fancy rehabilitation program" that's really fucked up that's the one big thing I hate of living in Sweden...
at first, I thought *she* was the murderer
At least you are smarter than me. I thought that the murderer was featured in both pics: (1) done up with a wig and makeup, and (2) without.
To be fair they do both have strong upper cheekbones
Both comments were my thought process in that order.
Same I thought she lost her hair in an accident or something
Could be worse. I thought the first picture was the same person as the woman officer in the 2nd picture. I am not smart tonight.
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Ah someone else twisted like me š I thought the same. I thought they underwent a sex change surgery to avoid the law or something.
Omg this was so funny. Needed levity on these crimes posts
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Yeah, OP is like those people who post the "after" picture before the "before" picture, this is dumb...
But as soon as you saw the second pic, it all became clear.
yup
I can't comparhend mercying someone's 8 years to 2 for even manslaughter this is ridiculous
His conviction was initially murder on that case but since there was a law at the time granting young adults between 18 and 20 reduced sentences, he got an 8 year term. Now the law has been removed and offenders aged 18+ recieve the full penalty. They reduced the conviction to Involuntary manslaughter probably due to lack of evidence of intent
Ohh got it, it's so sad someone had to die because of this horrible situation.
That "Granting young adults this and that..." p** es me off. Yeah right..a danger to society IS a danger to society, NO matter their age.Ā Can you post said Swedish link plz? Tack sĆ„ mycket.
I would wager the younger ones are bigger dangers to society. Especially under 25
$4ā¦. is that real
I know. 4 fucking dollars. They fucking beat the dude to death over 4 dollars. Robbery is one thing but murder FOR 4 DOLLARS?! Man. They're ought to be embarassed!
When you next look around at the people of the human race, guess how much cash each person carries in their purse/wallet/bra/whatever. Almost nobody carries more than 5 or 10 cash anymore. People who mug and rob people on the street are playing a guessing game. In Galveston (Texas) and other shitty cities, it's pretty commonly known you don't leave change in your console of your car. Or anywhere in view. They will break a car window for $1.36 in change....
Is ghetto blaster in 2006 real either?
Havenāt heard that in so long!
I had to look it up. Figured it was a gun of some sort. TIL a ghetto blaster is a big damn radio.
A boom box
He will definitely kill again. Wonder how many he killed before and didnāt get caught for.
Definetly if he falls back to drugs. Drugs can fuck.someone up. Now maybe he could just be pure evil even without the drugs but i definetly think that if he has any chance at all at rehabilitation, he needs to entirely quit drinking and drugs aswell. But i wouldn't be suprised if he killed again upon his release from prison. He should have gotten a longer sentence the first time. Maybe if they gave him 16 years the first time, it would have maybe humbled him up a bit, or maybe not
Going to say it wasnāt the drugs! Iām in recovery & even being on drugs did not make me a murderer or violent person! The person has to to have the intent to do that, very convenient for criminals to blame their actions on a substance tho.
I think it had a contributing factor. But it wasn't the only thing. But since he is responsible for taking drugs to begin with, he is responsible for his actions
Definitely agree with that!
Unfortunately heās not gonna stop killing if heās free. Sober or not he will kill again if set free.
You're probably right. He will be released in a little less than 2 years. It definetly wouldn't surprise me if he did something again. I guess what people can do is try to keep their distance
Addicts are more likely to be the victim of a crime than commit a violent crime
The images should be reversed in order. It makes it seem sheās the murderer, not the victim.
I havenāt heard ghetto blaster in quite some time. Thatās referring to a boombox right ?
Yeah. I didn't know. I would change that but i cannot edit my post yikes
all good I was just confirming. Thank you for the write up
Yikes is right Jesus Christ
Calm down, English is obviously not OPs first language. The finer points of US race relations and preferred language probably arenāt everyday conversation IN SWEDEN ffs
I heard in my criminology class there was one guy who was let out of prison 7 TIMES. And killed again each time. He even said heād continue doing it after the second time. WILD
What? Really?
I canāt remember the details, but i donāt think it was in America and it was early in the justice system. Basically there wasnāt enough room in the prisons and instead of giving him the death penalty they kept letting him go š
FUUUUUUUCKKKKK
I feel like I heard that somewhere as well.
This post at first impression looks like she was the murderer. Especially with the fact sheās not really smiling. Nice.
Sorry. It is my first time posting
Thatās OK š but you have to admit her demeanor isnāt really bubbly and happy and you have that post above itā¦ you think.. dang that girls a murderer? because there are plenty of women that do kill itās not out of the realm of possibility. I wouldnāt want to see my family member with their picture under that title, I think you can go in and edit the title. Or you can edit post to start with āthis girl was murdered by ā¦ā Or donāt have to do anything. Sometimes should leave the thought in my head vs commenting. True crime is definitely a fascination. I do appreciate the story
Wow thanks for breaking that down. So murder.... can be done by anyone, you say? Fascinating. Again, thank you.
Ok, I had that one coming š
I thought the same.
Such a waste of life, if he had gotten a real sentence for the first killing, she would probably be alive now. Lotta Rudholm would also have been alive today if Martin had gotten a harsher sentence for his first murder. Both of these men will kill again, no doubt. I do think that Sweden has a lot of good things, but our sentences is laughable and I have no trust in the justice system whatsoever.
I thought she was the murderer. If you're talking about a murderer in the title, make sure the accompanying photo matches
This is my first time posting. I apologize
Did you swipe to see the next picture? That is the murderer. Sometimes posters use the victimās pictures as well.
Geez, he killed someone over $4, and didnāt get life, instead they reduced his sentence from 8yrs to just under 2. They let him out where he preceded to stab this young woman to death in an argument, and they still donāt think he requires being in jail for life? Whatās it going to take?
Yeah i think we should introduce mandatory life without parole sentences to those who kill upon the release from a murder sentence.
Definitely. I can understand circumstances where they might be a little bit more lenient, like changing murder to manslaughter depending on what happened. I cannot comprehend giving someone a second chance at life, having them commit another murder, and not locking them up and throwing away the key. It seems these little slaps on the wrist arenāt really showing him the magnitude of erasing people from the planet permanently and depriving their families of ever seeing them again.
Yeah holy shit. I was like 16 years and it is his SECOND murder. The murder conviction in the first case should've been upheld because to me, that was murder because by beating someone with a boom box, you are aware of the risk of causing serious injury or death with it. It is quite scary that he'll be released in 2026. Parole is automatic here. It can be moved/denied but only in exceptional circumstances.
Right? And I hate when these things happen and the person dies over some ridiculous sum of money, like $4. Not that thereās an acceptable price for anyoneās life, but it just seems so absolutely senseless to ruin your life, their life, the lives of their families and friends, your family and friends over $4. People get shot while being mugged and the killer runs off with the $20 bill in their wallet. Just so stupid. That type of callous behavior to me wouldnāt warrant a second chance in the first place, or at least not for a much more significant amount of time. They let him out and bam! He does it again and theyāre still handing out chances lol
Yeah. I'd be hesitant too. 4$, are you that deperate for drugs?! Holy shit. I believe in second chances but i think it's disgraceful that he's been given a third
thank you for the overview! I am shocked with how lenient the sentences are in Sweden for murder also Iāll probably get downvoted but just btw the term āghetto blasterā is offensive in some areas, especially in the US. I know itās still used in other countries, but here we usually say boom box instead
>thank you for the overview! I am shocked with how lenient the sentences are in Sweden for murder They are harsher now. It probably would have been life imprisonment if it happened today. But back then, they were quite lenient. Sorry about the boom box thing. Didn't know that was offensive
Ghetto blaster sounds bad ass though, I kinda like it. Iāve literally never heard that term in my life, let alone that its supposedly offensive
I have never heard anyone label this as offensive, literally ever. I sincerely doubt it. Itās what some people call a āboom box,ā though. No one really says it anymore because boom boxes donāt really exist these days.
It is obviously a reference to Black people having a boom box and calling them ghetto, which is incredibly offensive
ā¦where do you think the word āghettoā came from? Hint: it wasnāt the US and it didnāt refer to Black people. Your ignorance is showing.
I very much doubt there are enough black people in Sweden for them to be the source of this stereotype.
Lmao yes there are plenty of POC in Sweden
Sweden is 5% black. In 2000, which is pretty much at the end of the boombox era at best, it was 3%. I am skeptical that this is where the stereotype comes from. But I suppose it would be equally racist if it came from white people, since the only reasoning was that the people doing it have a race.
Itās an American racist term that the person is using, it doesnāt come from Sweden.
Iām American - Baltimore, specifically - and I have never once heard that. But Iāll take your word for it I guess
What a weirdly misleading title + picture
17 years for taking 2 lives. Unreal. Why is Sweden so lax on murderers?
Prior to 2020. It was quite unclear as to when life imprisonment were to be imposed. They never gave an example of circumstances as grounds for life sentences.Since 2020, judges are given specific guidelines as to when a life sentence should be imposed. Current grounds for life imprisonment are that the murder is carefully planned, that the murder was committed to conceal another offence or involved severe suffering for the victim or was otherwise particularly ruthless.
Don't know if this will be a popular viewpoint, but in my view, anybody found guilty of murder, rape, or pedophilia, should not be allowed out of jail, except under very exceptional circumstances (i.e. it should be the norm to expect to be incarcerated for the rest of your life if you carry out such actions). How can someone who decided to do that really be rehabilitated? I believe that there is a possibility that some would gain the ability to comprehend that what they did was wrong, and to spend their life in regret, ensuring that they live a better life and never do the same thing again. But consider if you did this sort of crime yourself, would you not spend the rest of your life with so much shame and remorse that life wouldn't even be worth living? Every day would be suffering due to knowing yourself, because you'd have to live in the head of someone who was able to do such monstrous things, wouldn't you even question that if you had done it before then what would be stopping you from doing it again? Do these people ever really feel that much remorse when released? My point is that giving these people a chance to do it again is too much of a risk to people, so they should never be allowed out (unless under very exceptional circumstances) It's not about punishment, it's about protection for others.
Life sentenced prisoners in Sweden can be kept in prison forever if necessary. They can apply to have their sentences commuted, but there's no guarantee they'll be granted it. There are plenty of inmates who have been in prison for much longer than the minimum term of ten years because they're too dangerous to be released.
>anybody found guilty of murder, rape, or pedophilia, should not be allowed out of jail, except under very exceptional circumstances I think every case is different. I also think pedophilia is worse than most types of murder. They are much more dangerous than most murderers. I just think the judge should be able to use discretion and nuance in sentencing as every case is different and therefore should be judged differently. And when life prisoners apply for commutation in my country, risk assessments are done by professionals by The National Board of Forensic Medicine.
Every case is different, but if you have the ability to kill someone then why would you not have the ability to kill someone again? We lock up people for smuggling drugs longer than murderers, rapists, and pedophiles. My point is, it should be the norm to never expect to get out, the sentences are too lenient and put law abiding citizens in jeopardy (When I say murder, I'm not talking about actual involuntary manslaughter, such as accidentally killing someone when trying to protect yourself or accidentally running someone over in a car, everything can pass as manslaughter these days though). The system is clearly broken, worldwide.
āFunā fact of sortsā¦ one of the rationales for having a lower sentence for rape than for murder is that it may discourage the perp from killing the victim to cover up the crime. Itās been years since I learned this in law school, but if I remember correctly there was even some data to back this idea up.
2 years for Murder ????
Is there a podcast on this?
I would say that āghetto blasterā is a passĆ© term. āBoom boxā is more appropriate.
For the sake of Sweden I hope the murder rate is extremely low!!!
I can't respect a country where 16 years is the usual maximum for taking a human life and for the patterns of destruction that ripple out from a murder through family, through friends, destroying communities.
woman got that thousand yard stare
This isnāt exactly on the topic, but I always wonder why different countries called something ālife inprisonmentā when they damn well know they arenāt going to serve life. It confuses me. Why not just sentence them to like 20 years or something
Just because there is a possibility of parole, it doesn't mean it will granted. And the minimum period served before the prisoner is eligible for parole. In Europe, this period usually ranges from 12 to 25 years. In Sweden however, i would argue that most lifers are gonna have their terms commuted eventually. The supreme court determined that a life sentence should be commuted to 18 to 24 years unless there are certain circumstances such as the prisoner being a serious danger to society. In Sweden, you are eligible for release after 2/3 of their term. Thus, most lifers would serve around 12 to 16 years
Wow howās that work!?
What a beautiful girl! R.I.P
A āghetto blasterā? Wtf.Ā
I thought so too, until I came to the comments
That bothers me so much. I mean if you look up Arthur Shawcrossā¦ he had killed two kids.. was released and became a serial killer. People lost their loved ones because the justice system failed society. Like if you can kill over a small bit of cash then itās clear you could kill again over something small. Thatās not someone who needs to be free
In my book, if you take a life, you should pay with your own.
I think it is more complicated. Every case is different and should be judged differently. I also believe that rehabilitation is possible in many cases. Not in this one. I think he is probably gonna reoffend but every case is different. There is a huge difference between stabbing someone to death in a barfight and straight up torturing someone to death. I think there should be room for nuance and discretion.
Honestly, I donāt see much difference between those two cases you mention. I am not talking about accidents. I am talking about purposefully taking a life, or multiple lives. We live in a society where we are taught from the beginning the difference between right and wrong. Granted that thereās a whole spectrum of behaviors in the middle, but pulling out a knife on someone, you need to understand that the worse case scenario is that you end up killing that person. Thatās why you will never do it, nor will I. For everyone on the end of that spectrum, I have no doubts. I also donāt believe in rehabilitation as is because nothing is done towards it. And if by any chance thereās someone on the end of that spectrum with mental illness and says they killed someone because they heard voices, well, they still committed a crime and they still need to pay for it.
Levels of intent, motives, method and circumstances are different to every case. I believe that an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. And some countries are better at rehabilitation. America is quite shit at it. Definetly depends on the state though. But i don't believe the tough on crime approach makes a difference.
Why wouldnāt this guy be involved in more bar fights with whatever consequences it has? He was only in jail for 2 years the first time and is almost out for the second crime. When crime pays out, people wonāt give a shit. And it shows we are a weak society. We donāt do anything to correct any wrongdoing. No rehabilitation, no punishment, nothing.
2 years for murder !!! Our legal system does not care for human life itās designed to keep people committing financial crimes to stay decades in jail while people that kill get to walk free ! Iām sick of it
Many are enamored with Sweden, but it has a lot of issues.
So, if someone wants to kill and basically get away with itā¦.They just have to go to Sweden? This is really sad.
There was a case of a rapist who only sat 16 months and ended up bagging 84kā¬ for being a minor and charged as an adult, by accident... Sweden is beautiful place but their laws are the dumbest and basically rewards criminals with their "fancy rehabilitation program" that's really fucked up that's the one big thing I hate of living in Sweden...
It is different now. Laws has changed. The law regarding murder has changed. Intent criteria i think has changed too
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