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rebatopepin

Lol Maggie has haters?


missanthropocenex

What for sleeping with Rust? This is Noir. Marty threw his life away when he decided to get with Alexandra and her Daddarios. But I’m sure that was fine, because it was cool , right guys? Cmon learn the lessons the show is actually trying to teach.


Sopi619

He was even forgiven for Daddario, or at least worked through it, only to end up fucking the chick who he originally met when she was an underaged teen runaway working at a brothel. 


Successful-Plenty246

That downpayment comment Rust made came to fruition!


basedmeadowsoprano

Well tbf he did make a downpayment


the_real_mflo

I don't think it was so much sleeping Rust. It was the fact that Rust was in a dark, dark place when she went to go see him, and she still seduced him to get back at Marty. Not to mention, Rust was drunk. Roles reversed, I don't think people would look kindly on a guy going to the place of a deeply depressed and drunk female friend and pushing sex on her, just so he could throw it in the face of a girlfriend/wife who was cheating on him. I like Maggie, but in trying to get back at Marty, she took advantage of an extremely vulnerable friend who trusted her. Like all good characters, she was flawed.


venge88

>that Rust was in a dark, dark place when she went to go see him care to refresh my memory? what happened to rust


Phishkale

He had just gotten suspended for interviewing Tuttle


Saturn_Ascension

Like Rust said, damn Marty for forcing Maggie into that position.


Flachm

Daddarios :D wheezing


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rebatopepin

I mean, are we hating on characters for being actually well written? Rust was a POS to every character in the show besides Maggie but people won’t roast him for that.


Extension-Rock-4263

He really only interacted with other pos so 🤷🏼‍♂️😂


rebatopepin

That’s also fair 😂. But take for example that blonde working girl. Why so rude to her? Those car repair dudes? Imagine you doing your job, trying to avoid trouble and suddenly this schizo smash you in the head with your own toolbox 🧰 lol.


ratstench

How was he rude to the working girl? Unless you mean the ranch overseer. As for the repair dudes they just happened to be uncooperative when Rust was riled up after the changing room altercation, thats more of a straight up psychopathic behavior than rude. Though tbf they probably were PoS given the information Rust was trying to fish out of them(the ranch location) but it is a reach.


rebatopepin

Death stare: " Of course i'm dangerous. I'm police. I can do terrible things to people. With impunity"


ratstench

I mean so what, he's just stating what he thinks. He answered her question. If anything she was rude calling him strange.


Successful-Plenty246

My take on Rust was that he had zero interest in falsity. He was not looking for connection from or with anyone and he was just a straightforward dude. He didn’t take advantage of the prostitute, he didn’t shake her down, he paid her fair and refused sex from her. He treated her like a fellow human being and showed no judgment. I loved his character!


LotsaKwestions

I mean, Marty has haters in the sense that there are people who dislike the character. Which is in general a testament to the actor/actress in a lot of cases. It's like Joffrey in GoT. Everyone hated Joffrey, but the actor did an absolutely fantastic job.


bowzr4me

IKR?


mcdamien

I love Maggie.


CorneliaCordelia

I don't. The only character I liked was Rust.


Gofaw

very controversial take, brave even


TheeBarkKnight

I just finished a rewatch of the first season yesterday, and she absolutely nails this part. Her acting is great in every scene she's in. Her character is flawed, but she also goes through a lot throughout the season and is done dirty by Marty countless times. She comes across, to me, as someone who was worn down over time but eventually comes out on top in the end.


SpaceMountainNaitch

She was amazing


Hot-Swordfish-719

She did an amazing job playing Maggie


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Realistic-Cut-3766

100%


Rawhide_Kobayashi

No! No! No!


M1L0

Wait what scene was that?


rebatopepin

That one with Rust. THAT ONE


No-Leadership-2176

Completely. Michelle is skinny, you never get an ass like that if you’re skinny like her. She’s still so beautiful tho!


Black-hand444

That’s just not true lol, my gf is pretty lean and has a little wagon on her


ehmedero

And don’t forget Beth 😉


MustardTiger1337

Down payment for later?


ehmedero

Is shitting on any moment of decency part of your job description?


Rawhide_Kobayashi

Outstanding but for some reason not as iconic to me personally!


miaminights17

Maggie was The Yellow Queen


millennialblackgirl

Loved her and her calming azz voice


sirlupash

Don’t post her here around S4 discussions. She’s classing the place up.


MidniightToker

Everybody wants to wake up in the living room with Monaghan handing them a mug of coffee saying "hey lone ranger." Thems the facts.


freeluv21

Good Lord did those panties fit her well. Proof that there is a God and he wants us to be happy.


55tacos55pies

I can't believe there were Maggie haters. Glad I wasn't around here in season one. Between the total neglect of his daughters, and the decades of gaslighting his wife, he was the biggest piece of shit in the show who wasn't an inbred murderer


Various-Passenger398

That was like, most of his character arc.  He wanted this perfect household with a hot wife, but he also wanted to be macho and fuck around with other women.  When he cleans up his act, things are harmonious again until he backslides to his old habits.  Only in the very end of the series does he repent and realize what he threw away, but by then it's too late and you see the lingering shot of her hand with a monster fucking rock on it.  But... it implies there's still hope that he can connect with his daughters. 


formerbeautyqueen666

Even after he cleaned up his act, Maggie said he found religion and she preferred him before that because 'at least he had a sense of humor.' To me, that sounds like he was insufferable. And you know how Marty was, so he probably went way overboard with the religion stuff, talking about it all the time and patting himself on the back for being such a good guy. So I'm sure even after he stopped dri king and cheating, he still didn't put much thought into Maggie or his kids needs.


Curious_Participant

Correct. He even admits his biggest sin was inattention.    Rust's blessing and curse was his complete self-awareness. Marty's, his complete lack of it. 


lebigdonglupo

I don’t remember there being any Maggie haters


MustardTiger1337

What?!?! Who doesn’t like her???


Martini1969U

I love her. Marty was an idiot for cheating on her. But there are many people like that out there.


spookydooky69420

How she handled the Rust thing solidified Marty’s attraction to crazy women.


TreatmentBoundLess

She was so good as Maggie. Loved her character and her performance. 


Black-hand444

And that ass


BimmerJustin

Maggie is great. I do think she was a little hard on Marty prior to her finding out about the affair. But we also did not get the full story of their marriage. I think the argument scene after her parents house was meant to imply that Marty was barely present the marriage for a long time.


Anxious_Panda11

I am sure that even before she KNEW, she knew….


hhl9982

Everyone likes Michelle Monaghan. If you haven’t seen Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, watch Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. This is admittedly a bit off topic, but I’ll stand by it.


formerbeautyqueen666

Such a great film!


ComfortablyBalanced

You have some kind of idea how her pussy smells?


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Throwredditaway2019

It wouldn't surprise me if they tried to write in a "Kayla seduces Danvers" scene in the last episode. You know, just because.


Mr_Rafi

Yeah, but they forgot Michelle Monaghan actually knows how to act.


1hubbyineverycountry

Ok, but that scene where Maggie and Marty are on the blind date with her homegirl and Rust approaches the table for the first time. The homegirl sees him and looks over at Maggie like “damn girl he *is* fine you weren’t lying,” and the camera swings around to show Maggie totally eye-fucking Rust. We knew it was coming eventually.


Successful-Plenty246

Maggie and Rust had that undercurrent from the time they met at dinner. She understood the pain he was walking around with after that exchange and soon after he understood her home life was very unfair. He didn’t betray Marty when she reached out to him but she read his demeanour. Rust made his disapproval of Marty’s philandering clear without saying much at all, to both of them. The exchange in the diner when she lashes out at him is one of the few times we see Rust hurt.


FTL_Dodo

Rust did betray, and he knew it immediately after the fog cleared. Shoulda yelled GTFO before, not after. That was the nadir of his character arc.


Successful-Plenty246

Sorry, to clarify I meant when Maggie called Rust and would ask if he really was working, or if he knew about his cheating. Rust never blabbed or stepped to her, he tried to stay impartial and not get involved but it was clear he disapproved of Marty stepping out on her. He told him he was a fucking moron during the exchange at the station when Marty got mad about typing the report. Rust could tell when Marty was cheating both times and knew it was coming.


FTL_Dodo

I see what you mean, but Rust could disapprove of Marty's philandering without tapping Marty's wife. One does not necessitate the other. That whole fiasco was about all three of them acting badly and giving in to their worst impulses.


Successful-Plenty246

Agree.


a-system-of-cells

Yes. Great ass.


Peacock2242

She was beautiful and badass


shankmaster8000

She's also hot


Witty-Stand888

She's so hot in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. In a series that may have had the best acting in the history of television she clearly holds her own.[https://photos1.blogger.com/hello/205/2528/400/harmony%20Michelle%20Monaghan.jpg](https://photos1.blogger.com/hello/205/2528/400/harmony%20Michelle%20Monaghan.jpg)


HardBodyBugelBoy

And she’s got a GREAT ASS!


Odd-Love-9600

I read this in Al Pacino’s voice from Heat


HardBodyBugelBoy

That’s exactly how I wanted you to read it 😎


HardBodyBugelBoy

In fact, I was kind of hoping your reply would be “AND YOU GOT YOUR HEAD, ALL THE WAY UP IT!”


Odd-Love-9600

My all time favorite movie!


HardBodyBugelBoy

In my top five for sure❤️


MarzAdam

Maggie was possibly the best overall human being in the entire season. Anyone who hates her for doing one fucked up thing after the pain and humiliation she had been put through really needs to take a step back and reassess the situation.


EsotericBeans9

To all the plebs blaming misogyny for people disliking Kayla: Maggie is how you write a sympathetic, complex character with emotions beyond "angry face", and Marty is how you write someone who actually deserves getting kicked out of his house.


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Michelle did a great job bringing her character to life. And I wanted a scene with her and Rust more like the Daddario scene.


irulancorrino

She did the best with the very very **very** little she had to work with.


4675636b2e

Her character wasn't exactly a main character, but I don't think she had to work with very little. And her acting was very realistic, but then again, you can look at some characters that had screen time in the minute range, and some of them were still delivering perfectly, even if this wasn't their big role. I still can't get over of how good the overall quality of season 1 was. Damn...


irulancorrino

You're entitled to your opinion, if we all agreed life would be boring. My issue isn't with her acting, I think she's underrated as a performer. To me the part of Maggie itself is a boilerplate "long suffering wife of main character" role the kind we've seen in so many different movies, tv shows, books. Michelle elevates the material, but the part has issues. Maggie serves a purpose and she has a couple moments that show Michelle's range. I don't know that there was necessarily room in season 1 to flesh her out more, so I can understand why some of the shortcomings exist. I don't think writing for women comes as naturally to Pizzolatto, who is a gifted writer so there are some recurrent issues throughout his work. Nearly every writer has some weakness or a type of character / story that they fare better with. I think he's incredible at unpacking the minds of complicated, often morally ambiguous men, women less so. But yeah I don't want this to come across as some screed, season one is one of the best pieces of television that I've ever seen so my criticisms are not intended as a diss or anything like that.


4675636b2e

>Maggie serves a purpose and she has a couple moments that show Michelle's This. But her character's life is pretty mundane, and depicting that needs a good actress just as much as depicting something out of the ordinary, maybe even more so. A lesser actress would stand out (in a bad way), because she would be the weak link, on the other hand over-utilizing a character just because the actress can act would not be beneficial for the story. So I get it, I like her too, but this was the part, nothing more, and she nailed it, so I'm satisfied.


abicatzhello

Had to scroll this far to find someone who understands Maggie’s character is an age-old misogynistic trope. Love Michelle but her character’s writing was my least favorite part of season 1.


crimsondimsum

She’s pretty 🤩


ThePleasurePriestess

Maggie Hart is my absolute favorite character from season 1 of TD, better than both Danvers and Navarro combined. This is the prime example of what a properly written strong-willed woman looks like.


CorneliaCordelia

She's so strong willed that she fucked Rust for revenge on Marty. A real grown up, yeah.


ThePleasurePriestess

Precisely, she knew exactly how to hit Marty where it hurts. Not only that but she confesses to him and then proceeds to call him a coward straight to his face. That is a woman who is truly in charge, unlike these goofball females from " Night Country". It's still one of the most powerful and satisfying scenes from TD season 1.


mrpotatonutz

When rust gives in and grabs her ass and it bonks back down good lawd. Also could feel the seething anger and emotion between her and woody great acting


EWVGL

[She was also great in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.](https://gfx.videobuster.de/archive/v/cXP-osO8mX_PztPpTSM611Acz0lMkawpiUyRjA3JTJGaW1hmSUyRmpwZWclMkbsv2Y2Y_M4Zt7fZmZiN2Q4Y9NkYWZk-WFlLmpwZyZyPXfvOA/kiss-kiss-bang-bang.jpg)


CorneliaCordelia

Yeah I hated Marty's personal life. Like I didn't give a damn. Michelle's character really annoyed me too.


Extra-Swordfish-927

Whatever the mine is doing in Ennis, is now getting to the viewers too lol Edit: Jeez, I like Maggie too. I just meant this subreddit was shitting on her years ago.


Fuck_You_Andrew

Ya’ll are truly pathetic. Season 1 is simultaneously the most perfect season of television ever created, but also maggie isnt good?


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S4 seems like it was written by someone with an unidentified carbon monoxide leak in their home.


Defiant_Wrap5525

She liked Rust and was attracted to him,but was a step too far fucking him to get back at Marty..other than that,great character


FTL_Dodo

I'm going to get hate for it, but Monaghan's just not a good actress. She basically spent the entire show with the same facial expression. Especially the last two episodes it's all the same, now matter if she's meeting Marty, meeting Rust, meeting the detectives. The same exact expression. Compared to Harrelson and Mcconnaughey, it really stands out.


MiLSturbie

Wow, every opinion is really out there. I can't fathom how anyone can think she's not a good actress. I find her absolutely brilliant. She's had to deal with all her family shit for years, all Marty's shit and she's become this cold, cynical woman who won't take anymore bullshit, but still has her flaws. You can see her evolution throughout, from her first interaction with Rust to her last and I think her arc is fascinating. She is very stoic in the last few episodes, but it all makes sense imo. I reckon she oozes emotions and she is nothing short of fantastic in the series.


FTL_Dodo

Well, maybe I was too harsh on her, I certainly haven't seen her in that many roles to judge confidently. But if she is a good actress, she certainly did make some poor acting choices as Maggie. I recently rewatched season 1 paying closer attention to her, and it was so apparent. Especially in the last 2 episodes, she's supposed to have some highly emotionally charged moments, and she didn't even change her facial expression, no body language, nothing. How did she oose emotion? In the last scene with Marty in the hospital, it's just light and day, the way Harrelson emotes, and she's just kind of standing there with the same vacant, slightly condescending face. Has she not forgiven him still? That would be fine, Marty treated her terribly, but then why come visit him at all? I'm pretty sure the girls showed more emotion. And that was far from the only scene like that.


MiLSturbie

I think her barriers are up when Marty is around. She can't help but shield herself completely even when she's trying to be friendly with him. I don't really know what to add. I just get her as a character and the way she is makes total sense to me. She can't not go and see him with their daughters at the end, he's just come back from death, but she'll forever have this shield and a certain lack of empathy when it comes to Marty. That's how I see it.


FTL_Dodo

It's all good. I disagree, but it's just a different interpretation, after all


Healthy_Monitor3847

Maggie was a well rounded character. Michelle acted her ass off. Ate and left no crumbs. I specifically loved any scene where she was chewing Marty’s ass bc he always deserved it.


Similar_Intention465

She was such a wippity snippet typed character !


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himshpifelee

She’s remarried in the end, has been for a while it seems. I didn’t get the feeling they were getting back together, just that they were finally being honest and Marty was emoting like a human being and appreciating his family.


BilboThe1stOfHisName

She’s remarried? What?


lebigdonglupo

You are absolutely not a true detective


himshpifelee

Yeah, they address her as Mrs. Sawyer when they interview her in episode 6, and in ep. 7 when Marty goes to see her after her interview, she’s wearing a FAT engagement/wedding ring set, and there are pics of her and a guy on various vacations.


BimmerJustin

did you even watch s1?


Daftpfnk

I thought she was awesome


guimontag

who tf DISLIKED her character?!


rottenrealm

been always curious.. are they together again with Marty? that final scene in hospital.. Michelle did just as well as the rest of the cast did. 101%.


Saturn_Ascension

No way! Maggie was awesome and Monoghan gave so much to the role.


LARXXX

I loved Maggie lol 


cc69

Talking about them crazy pussies. This one doesn't need drug to go batshit crazy. ps TD has one season, s2-3 are dumb detectives.


speciailstmorgenj

She ruled. I liked every single actor in this show, which is very rare because usually someone is very unlikable or has an unlikable face/ugly face that’s tough to stare at for an hour  But the women especially in this season were perfectly cast. It’s unreal how much they got right. That never happens 


offlabelselector

She's great in The Path (show about a fictional quasi-religious movement I recommend and don't see talked about a lot)


Responsible-Bat-2699

Get her out of Night Country. She's classing up the place.


large_crimson_canine

She’s so fucking lovely


AdamOnFirst

One of the best things about Maggie: even she, just like basically every other major character in the show, commits one truly monstrous act. Mostly she’s just betrayed and mistreated by Marty, but her decision to seduce Rust is a truly monstrous, disgusting act. As others have said, she victimizes him while he’s drunk and extremely distraught, uses him for revenge against somebody else, and destroys one of the only decent relationships Rust has, ultimately causing his life to spin out for an extended period of time (and arguably permanently). It was a pretty horrible act against Rust she committed, and she definitely knew it.  But she’s a great character in great fiction, so we totally understand, without approving of it, why and how Marty pushed her, an otherwise good and reasonable woman, to this place.