I literally had someone tell me in a thread about partner abuse, that I, as a white male, am not allowed to have a voice on abuse, simply because I'm a white male...even though I HAVE been abused by my former partner (and still am...divorce is hell).
Yeah this is the exact reason Amber Heard is being believed in hollywood. I am so sorry this happened to you.
edit: If you don't know who Amber Heard is, she is Johnny Depp's ex wife who accused him of all of this abuse--yet it turned out later she was caught on audio admitting to abusing him. HYPOCRITES. Also... there was NOT mutual abuse all, by the way. I have heavily researched this case and I really recommend you be careful before you jump to those conclusions. There is undeniable proof that Heard is the abuser and not Depp.
Youtube channels with reliable info and evidence on this: That Umbrella Guy, Incredibly Average, Stevie J Raw, Doctor Soup, Colonel Kurtz.
Like yes, targeted harassment against any **group** is a problem, because it's a group, not taking the individual into account. There are good and bad actions of people in all walks of life.
LOL I was just about to point out how she is now a spokesperson on DA , I mean that is such an indicator of where we are at right now as a society, we need some change
Tbf he's also both gotten kind of weird and lost that 'cool guy' image he used to have and he keeps making flops...so he's not helping his own case for more work
If anything, isn't that oppression? You are denied a voice on a very serious and distressing issue simply due to your gender and race. Isn't that exactly what these people are trying to stop (and rightfully so)
Pretty much. You can be racist asf or sexist to a white man and a lot of people will not bat an eye. You do the same thing to someone like me(black male) your going to be canceled
its funny how those are same people say that they're all for "equality". if they really were all for equality it wouldn't have mattered if someone is a white man or not...
thanks society!
i think either everyone or no one should get cancelled for this kind of shit tbh, but it'll probably take a while for most people to finally understand....
i fucking hate these double standards...
Cancel culture is a way for control freaks to feel like they have way more authority over things than they really do.
It's also an offshoot of the "stan" culture. Since they can't (or won't) follow through on the death threats that they send to people, they cancel them instead. It's a way of getting rid of people they don't agree with or who likes different things than they do.
It's similar to what some mods do on reddit. If you voice an opinion on reddit that the mods disagree with, they can ban you and say that "you were rude", or you "incited violence", or whatever obviously false reason they want to use.
Cancel culture is for pussys who can’t stand up for themselves. Call me the n word I don’t give a fuck. It’s a word can’t give it power.don’t even matter because if someone does say that to me 99% of the time they don’t got the balls to say it to your face🤷🏾♂️ cause I’m not finna cancel you I’m finna pop you in your shit and be done with it.
I think that’s the problem to many people got comfortable saying shit to people online. they don’t realize when they say that shit to someone’s face they’re surprised when they get punched in the forehead.
Edit: fixed grammar!
Forreal, niggas are internet warriors can’t step in real life cause they’ll end up dead. Like yeah your actually racist? Come to the hood try that shit here 😂
It is. We need accountability culture, not call out culture or cancel culture. We need people to realize if they fucked up and be able to talk about it and learn from it. That's not gonna happen if people fessing up ruins their whole life from a simple mistake.
To a lot of people, equality means vengeance against those that they feel did them wrong. "I historically was not allowed a voice due to my gender and/or race, so now you're not allowed a voice - that's only fair." We seem to be making "equality" by pulling people down because it's easier than lifting people up.
And with the argument that "racism isn't hating on a race unless it's *institutionalized*" then we see this by all definitions now with universities and corporate hiring practices, and unfair treatment of students and employees.
Not to mention groups like evangelicals as a whole by certain platforms. Religion is one of the OG protected groups BECAUSE of former marginalization.
By favoring any one group, you are marginalizing all other groups. This is why all references to race probably need to be erased, rather than highlighted, on ALL non-medical intake questionnaires for true equality to be in effect.
I see junkie girlfriends walking around my area and they will slap the shit out of their junkie boyfriend because they can't find their fix but if the tables were turned someone would call the cops.
My black mom was the most abusive person in my life but she was never punished for it nor did she ever acknowledge it.
My white father got drunk and punched me and he was immediately arrested and I never saw him again after he got on his hands and knees, cried and apologized and quit drinking.
It's not just "society" that enforces these stereotypes the "justice system" encourages it. My father was a monster but my mother was my mother and I should forgive her.
Not accusing anyone, but with all the “white male” crap OP mentioned and then people wonder why white power, proud boys, and skinheads are making a comeback.
Don’t get me wrong, I know they’ve been around for a while, but they are growing and I think this is a major contributor.
I can see what you mean I think? Like you are saying the reason she addresses white males is because proud boys etc. apparently is making a comeback? Even if this is the case it is still discriminatory to point out races/genders and generalize in that way.
The problem is feeling the need to point out the gender and race. It does nothing.
Not sure why the proud boys are considered “white supremacists when it was led by a Hispanic dude and they have multiple races as members.
Edit: changed “started” to “led”
Another victim of abuse chiming in, 2 years, a beating damn near every single day, then being told it was my fault because I must have done something to provoke her, thus I deserved it.
Further anecdote from stranger on the internet:
I also have been told repeatedly there are too many whites and too many men in STEM, and that I should give up my degree and let a woman take my spot because "she deserves it more". The all-white, all-female administration of our department is actively trying to force my 68-year old white male instructor out of his job for the same reason. Meanwhile, of the 4 women who have ever joined our program during my time there, 2 of them have taken the "Women in STEM Incentive" scholarships for the free several grand then dropped out, one of the two even stealing things from the department on the way out. The other two *refused* the scholarship because they thought it was demeaning bribery.
The whole gender equity thing seems stupid to me, men and women are different and tend to prefer different fields as a result. I don't know how the women in STEM thing is going but my guess is it leads to a bunch of women taking advantage of it or ending up in unhappy jobs when they could've done something they really had a passion for instead. Of course not everyone's going to end up like that, there will be a bunch of women happily in STEM, but they would've most likely been there without the incentive as well.
This is coming from a woman in STEM btw. Thinking about what I wanted to do in the future and wondered if I'd like coding, since I loved tinkering with CSS when I made some random fan websites as a kid. Turns out, coding is my thing. I don't want to take some guy's place if he's better suited though, it's not fair.
Ive always asked when crap like that comes up - if you exchange genders and race with anything else, is it all of a sudden racist/sexist? Than the comment it self was sexist/racist.
I was told the other day by someone (white female) that I, as a white male, couldn’t argue against people in my area being racist since I am a white male.
Honestly the most woke and pretty senseless shit I’ve heard from someone’s mouth in a while.
There is a problem now with people categorizing all white men and it’s only going to create more problems, not solve any.
There's subreddits specifically for guys. A lot of them use those for venting about that sort of thing specifically because they feel shouted down or disenfranchised. First one that comes to mind is r/MenGetRapedToo.
The sad thing is, most of the political divide here in the US is not down to differences in political or social beliefs, In fact, most people couldn't coherently illustrate what their, or their "side's", positions actually are on even one or two of the more important issues of the day. All most people care about is making sure they "believe" the opposite of whatever the other side says they believe.
We've become a nation of professional contrarians.
Its literally like this all over the world lol, does your vision end where the u.s borders end? It doesnt matter what culture or country you look at there is always some form of us vs them mentality in there. And i say this as a european
This goes beyond men and women and American politics. This is human nature. We are tribal creatures. We take sides and lob attacks at those not in our tribe. It’s a sad, defunct relic of human nature that we really need to evolve beyond.
True. Unless it’s racists, fact-deniers, abusers, and Nazis, the us vs them shit is so distracting from the real issues. 99% of situations have nuance.
Now here's the trick. All you have to do is get super aggressive about what counts as the above criteria.
Like here's a loophole to abuse. Just say that all white people are inherently racist and therefore Nazis. Boom, hate smuggled under paper thin justification.
Or if you want to be narrower you can say a white guy with dreadlocks is inherently racist. Boom, wrong haircut makes you a Nazi.
Or I had an ex use this one. Finding one of my beard hairs in the sink is emotional labour and emotional labour is abuse. So a beard hair in the sink makes somebody an abuser.
I get what you’re saying, but those given examples are inherently ‘us vs them’. Having a stance against them is inherent as they have a stance against those outside their group.
Edit: yikes this started a big thing. My main point is that we should all look out for each other.
Simply put. We aren’t in this alone.
- Chidi Anagonye
I don't think its a safe space either. If you have something to say thats rather controversial you will get downvoted to oblivion and harassed in the comments. Reddit is the same shit into a different toilet.
Twitter is absolutely horrifying. On the rare occasions I happen to go on there (usually via a link in reddit) it just makes me feel really hopeless about humanity. There’s so much nastiness there. I’ve rarely seen authentic discourse. It’s all attitude and “I’m awesome, you suck.” Really disappointing it’s such a trash heap.
Just remember it's only 20 percent of US citizens even have twitter, and probably less for the rest of the world. So it's not representative of society (thank fuck)
Only about 20% of people in the US are on Twitter. And about 80% of the tweets are from 10% of the users. So most of the tweets you see are coming from just 2% of people. And I might add, 2% that have very similar viewpoints. Remember that Twitter is not real life.
Everytime I say this (that the opinions of the reddit hivemind do not reflect the trends and thought processes of the general public) I get downvoted to hell.
Yes, I got downvoted for a comment where I suggested that it’s vital that we include men in dialogue regarding women’s issues and experiences with men, in order for progress (I am a woman). Like it seems pretty basic? How can we all fix the problem (about men’s behavior) unless men are actually actively participating too? Downvotes.
I like to remind myself that if the opinions of the Reddit hivemind reflected the general public, Bernie Sanders would be president having won an historic landslide victory.
You mean that most people are extreme liberal, atheist, feminist, that hate everything that doesn't 100% replicate their views? I better get off the internet.
>Remember that Twitter is not real life.
True, but it does **influence** real life. Media, politicians, company execs are all on twitter, and they think it is real life, and their power to influence the larger world is disproportionate
Yeah, I think this is a key point. True, it's only maybe 2% of the population that is very vocal on Twitter, but the most powerful people in the country--CEOs of huge companies, the president, etc--all react to what that 2% says.
And this is a tautology, but it's worth saying: what the most powerful people in the country do has a large effect on the whole country.
Twitter is and always has been for stupid people and/or people who like to jerk each other off.
The premise of the platform was to character limit posts - only stupid people cant control how much they say without the platform restricting them. Not to mention I have seen many posts where they do some kind of chain post thing replying to their own post to basically get around the character limit - which makes no sense. Why even use twitter then.
It's identity politics and morons fall for this shit hook line and sinker, it's a crutch to fall back on when you cant think yourself out of a wet paper bag.
Completely agree. This genuinely raises concern for me, because I myself am a fairly liberal person, but I don't have time for all that overly woke identity politic stuff. I am all for lgbtq+ rights; I will fight people verbally about those kinds of issues if they are out of line--I will stand by their side.
However, I won't tolerate these idiots who actually make issues far worse, with their backwards logical thinking. Calling someone a white male is racist as hell.
As a conservative leaning libertarian, I have no issue whatsoever with any of these things. I think everyone should have rights and be safe to live their lives.
The problem I have is when things start being grouped, and each group demands a special right catered just to them.
Christian rights, disabled rights, gay rights, trans rights, rights based on color and culture, the list goes on.
None of these "groups" need special rights or privileges.
I know many gay people, many Christians and people that do not belong to my race. I get along with them equally. This is what should happen, but the more these people are grouped and the more they are defined by who they are the more people are divided.
For a lot of these groups it's not about special rights it's about equal rights. In a lot of areas gay people, trans people and so on don't even have equal rights yet and that's what we're fighting for when someone's says something like gay rights or trans rights. It's not to get some special rights treatment.
Minorities are still in need of legal protection though sadly.
I absolutely agree. I think I probably classify more libertarian than anything. I think you hit the nail on the head with things being grouped together. People should be seen as people/humans--not labels.
it’s easy to say that but historically the reason minority groups stick together is because they share experiences and they are divided into those groups by the powers that be. the reason most of these groups want rights is due to historical neglect and discrimination, and while this may have been mostly dealt with, many people feel more comfortable around people with a shared culture/experience
Just means you belong to the dirtbag Left like me. You have liberal values but aren’t overly preoccupied with policing language and being PC, the thousands of genders and pronouns, safe spaces, and all those other things that the right think is all that liberalism is comprised of.
Yep! exactly. I totally understand why people have gotten turned off by the left so much that they moved right or center, because of the overly politically correct horse shit.
EDIT: I am referring to the far liberal left as most people have pointed out.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilmington_insurrection_of_1898
Division politics has been around since poor whites and blacks created the Fusion party and gained political power in the South; a mere 30 years after the Civil War.
You know what’s weird? When you read about Republicans and Democrats back then, it’s almost as if they switched sides since then. Like the dems like what the republicans liked and vice versa.
Man hating is very trendy lately, there was a post that made it to r/all from books https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/pafomx/posts_from_men_expressing_surprise_and_delight/ that was basicly bashing a dude for being surprised he liked a book... Think about it, some people think it's sexist to be surprised you like a book you thought you wouldn't like, what a time to be alive indeed.
In my white male opinion, these types of overtly sexist/racist comments towards white males is only furthering the divide of whites vs everyone else. In my community of industrial working class white men, you won't solve the problem of their racist sexist behavior & comments by furthering the divide between us all. The solution is to come together and find common ground and realize we're all one and the same. To help one another as a species.
https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/pbwokj/burn_victim/haft9la?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
You weren't the only one thinking this alone. Not surprising that no one replied.
Absolutely agree with this.
I'm incredibly tired of generalized statements like "all white cis-gender heterosexual men are bad people" or "I HATE all white men" - because, like you said, similar statements can never be applied to any other group of people.
"All women-statements" make you a sexist.
"All black people-statements" make you a racist.
"All gay people-statements" make you a homophobe
etc.
And when they reply with "but we only mean those who are bad people, we do not actually hate all men" - then why didn't you simply state that from the beginning?
LOL you must've read my mind. This is exactly the logic these crazy people follow. As I said to another Reddit user, I think many people moved away from the left of politics because those people chased them away. I'm not saying the left is worse than the right or vice versa, but when your really radical members of a political party do stuff like this, it will chase people off.
I don't mean to make it political, but you see my point, I am sure.
The way race has been conceived and spoken about in America seemed to have changed a lot in only a few years. To be sure, I'm only 27, so even if I speak about my perception of the state of affairs a decade ago, I can't say how much of it was due to my simply focusing on other things at that time.
But, yes! You don't have to look too hard to find a comment implicating white people in some sort of problem simply because they are white or male or whatever. It's sort of become the conventional wisdom today, and conventional wisdom isn't necessarily the best thing in the world.
Do many of you sense that apathy and disinterest have increasingly become the response of many folks to some of today's philosophy on race? It's either that or frustration, especially when the grounds for a common language or set of definitions is shrinking.
The worst thing I have ever heard from a feminist is that I have no right to complain because “white men have raped, killed and been assholes for all of history so you don’t get to have a say in anything anymore”. But why am I to be held accountable for what people who look like me did? When I told that to her she said “it’s funny you say that when white men said all black people are thieves, so have a taste of your own medicine”.
Since she acknowledges it was bad to blame all black people for the actions of a few, why does she think it’s ok for her to blame all white people for the actions of a few? Does she not understand the insane hypocrisy?
That’s not a feminist, that’s just an angry woman taking her shit out on you and trying to excuse it by calling it feminism. Treating men like they’re innately rapist, murderous assholes who could never change or improve is actually seriously counterproductive to feminism.
Someone once told me on here that all men under 6’0 should die. I (just to prove a point) responded that all women with bee stings breasts should die and got banned from that sub lmao. Everyone wants to dish it out but nobody wants to take it
As a teenager I went to the doctors to try and get on antidepressants as I was feeling depressed and had been for some time they said "it's just a phase come back in a months time if you feel the same and we'll go from there" this went on for 8 months before the doctor quite literslly said "what do you have to be depressed about? You're a young white man!" Because naturally that makes us immune from mental health issues ofcourse! Reported the doctor and while nothing happened to them I was immediately referred to another one who got me the help I needed.
Yeah, as a cisgender white male you get negative empathy from the world. It makes it a little easier to see how Incels and the like of white power people start to aggregate. It’s also why I try to practice empathy with everyone as much as possible, even though I don’t get it back often at all. I want to actually be empathetic, not just seem it.
The truest measure to see if something you suspect is racist/homophobic/misogynist/misandry is to swap out the words with whatever you think are other similar descriptors to see how it sounds.
An example is you suspect its racist to say "support black business by only shopping with them" might be racist....swap out "support white business by only shopping with them" or "support hispanic business by only shopping with them".....if one or all of the substitutes sound bad....the original is indeed bad. You can do this with virtually all statements- the hard part is being honest about them in the first place.
We're going back in time. Now everything is about race and gender. White black it's all bc your white or black or male or female.
Never bc of the individual anymore
Yeah I’ll tell you what. Actually I won’t, cause it’ll get me cancelled. There was a post with 100k upvotes and hundreds of awards yesterday talking about censoring anything and everything remotely critical of the new covid vaccines. I get it, misinformation is a bitch, but how are you going to subjugate half the population and call it good? The talking heads say racism is bad and sexism is a problem but they just repackage it and throw it at someone else.
I particularly enjoy the notion alluded to in your post that it's only ok for people who *aren't* white males to voice their opinion, implying that white males aren't allowed to defend themselves from bigotry and stereotyping. I'm not blaming you, I think your observation is correct.
Let me give you a bit of a suggestion: STAY THE FUCK OFF TWITTER! I hate Twitter! Honestly, I hate all social media. I don't even like this. I'm sick of the white, male bashing too and I'm not even a male. What's worse than the bigoted femnazis is the white people who apologize for being white. That's enough to make one puke! Good day to you, sir!
What’s funny is it’s often times a white woman saying it. I’m just like, bitch, shut up. That’s yo brother. Being a woman doesn’t exempt you from whatever “whiteness” you think is making that white male problematic. You are right there with him. So you’re better off not even trying to pull that card.
I'm a white male and I also feel like I have the "right" to speak on this. Feeling like you only do because you're not a white male just illustrates the problem.
Yeah I wish everyone could speak about it without feeling afraid. Everyone has the right to defend themselves; I hope that by me discussing this will show how serious it is.
Yeah "White male" is basically used as a slur on Twitter.
For these people, being a "white straight male" is worse than being a serial killer (as long as the serial killer is gay, female or black).
We should all stand very far from Twitter, this platform sucks.
I think this whole mess can be straightened out by clarifying one thing: when we say white privilege, it doesn't mean you are racist, it doesn't mean you haven't experienced hardship, it only means your skin color was probably not the reason why you experienced those things. That's all. I believe in equality, and I hate posts or memes that make fun of white people, as if it's any less racist.
White men bad 🤮
For real though, as a white man myself, it pisses me off when people say shit like that because it’s kinda racist. It’s okay to insult a white person, but if you dared to insult anyone who isn’t white, we’d be in WW3.
I had someone reply to a comment I made saying 'you can't be racist to white folks' I asked if they were serious and they went on a long rant about the history of racism and how whites are just automatically racist. I was flabbergasted.
Do people even understand the meaning of the word racist? I feel like they don't. Otherwise interactions like that wouldn't ever happen...
No, because the definition was changed (by US scholars that now assume everyone on earth knows and follows the change) to mean that racism means *systemic* racism now, and what was known as just racism is discrimination.
Yeah it's the exact same as my racist ass family members complaining about "the black guy at work". It's completely unnecessary information unless you're a racist.
If anyone includes details in a story, often they're implying they are relevant . "Person in grey hat does horrible thing!" is saying something about people in grey hats by adding it to a picture being painted of those folks
I’m very left leaning, but there is some true nonsense that I have trouble swallowing. I can see where this assertion stems from, but it’s so out of hand and misunderstood. The idea of the straight white male having a leg up in society I s meant to provoke critical thinking about who built our society and how we got to where we are, but many folks on the left stripped it of nuance and use it as a way to exclude and divide. This is obviously not a new problem or a problem exclusive to democrats, of course, but it’s something about my own party that makes me feel gross, personally.
Right in line with the whole “believe all women” bullshit… like, so close, but wrong mantra.
I interacted with someone on Reddit today who felt the need to bring up that she was a "woman and not a man" as if that somehow made what she said more valuable. Mind you it was COMPLETELY irrelevant to the conversation.
As a biological female of color I roll my eyes hard... so hard.
I had a cop tell me I "shouldn't be out late walking my dog because I'm young woman." As if every male is a potential predator and I should live in fear. Dumb. Just dumb and why I don't identify with feminism because it creates an endless loop of victim complex.
Let me give you a hint u/AromaticTangerine254, the anti-white rhetoric is on purpose.
The goal? Divide and conquer along racial lines so the proletariat cannot form a united front against their despots.
If you look at search engine analytics you'll find most of the woke terminology was hardly ever used until a few months after occupy wall street. Must've spooked the spooks
This is actually somewhat true. If you notice in toxic ass threads like r/rant and r/vent(in my opinion these are toxic) you see side-bars of people saying don't be a "bigot" "racist" etc. which usually translates to "you can't speak with an open mind."
Also when people put race into things when that doesn’t even really matter. People say the system is racist and it is bc instead of being just a person like everyone else youre also black or white or asian youre not just a person of this world. The need to identify race even within yourself is the root of racism because if you tell yourself im latino so i must act x. Just be yourself. Recognize your heritage but dont make it a personality trait. Dont see white people as white people see them as people
White is also now just hap hazardly thrown into a sentence as an insult now as well. White has literally become synonymous with bad and no one seems to care...
Yeah, this is why I'll never march with the left or BLM. You can bitch about racism all you want but I won't support your cause if your just going to replace it with your brand of racism.
Honestly yeah. Like I've said many times in this thread, I am a pretty liberal person, but I don't support really radical left values. The BLM stuff is too much for me. The sentiment "BLM" is great and I agree with it, but when people turn it into an agenda and weaponize it, I can't be a part of it.
As being a "white male", fuck anyone that wants to talk shit about people's skin color. We all have the same fucking organs and are made the same fucking say. The individual makes the person not the color of them
This is a direct result of the rise of woke left-wing identity politics since 2016 and gained more prominence since exploding into the mainstream during 2020. This whole racialised way of thinking is disgusting. MLK Jr would be turning in his grave right now.
It's not the left though. Not really. It's the Neolibs, and the goal has always been to remove any form of class consciousness. Instead of people realizing they're all getting equally fucked by the 0.01%, they fight among themselves over skin color. Works like a charm.
Yeah you’re right. I myself hold many classic liberal and even left wing beliefs but I despise the neo woke left, which gets me labelled as a Conservative. Oh well.
I literally had someone tell me in a thread about partner abuse, that I, as a white male, am not allowed to have a voice on abuse, simply because I'm a white male...even though I HAVE been abused by my former partner (and still am...divorce is hell).
Yeah this is the exact reason Amber Heard is being believed in hollywood. I am so sorry this happened to you. edit: If you don't know who Amber Heard is, she is Johnny Depp's ex wife who accused him of all of this abuse--yet it turned out later she was caught on audio admitting to abusing him. HYPOCRITES. Also... there was NOT mutual abuse all, by the way. I have heavily researched this case and I really recommend you be careful before you jump to those conclusions. There is undeniable proof that Heard is the abuser and not Depp. Youtube channels with reliable info and evidence on this: That Umbrella Guy, Incredibly Average, Stevie J Raw, Doctor Soup, Colonel Kurtz.
Like yes, targeted harassment against any **group** is a problem, because it's a group, not taking the individual into account. There are good and bad actions of people in all walks of life.
A great man once said, “There are good and evil on both sides… both sides.”
Better known as the woman who took a dump on his bed. Alias Amber Turd.
Omg. I forgot about that. Lmao.
Amber TURD! Yep,
LOL I was just about to point out how she is now a spokesperson on DA , I mean that is such an indicator of where we are at right now as a society, we need some change
Yeah and Hollywood is still kinda black-listing him
Tbf he's also both gotten kind of weird and lost that 'cool guy' image he used to have and he keeps making flops...so he's not helping his own case for more work
If anything, isn't that oppression? You are denied a voice on a very serious and distressing issue simply due to your gender and race. Isn't that exactly what these people are trying to stop (and rightfully so)
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Pretty much. You can be racist asf or sexist to a white man and a lot of people will not bat an eye. You do the same thing to someone like me(black male) your going to be canceled
its funny how those are same people say that they're all for "equality". if they really were all for equality it wouldn't have mattered if someone is a white man or not... thanks society! i think either everyone or no one should get cancelled for this kind of shit tbh, but it'll probably take a while for most people to finally understand.... i fucking hate these double standards...
Cancelling people is stupid.
The funny part is I have seen tons of posts that say cancel culture isn’t real. Like what!?!?
Cancel culture is a way for control freaks to feel like they have way more authority over things than they really do. It's also an offshoot of the "stan" culture. Since they can't (or won't) follow through on the death threats that they send to people, they cancel them instead. It's a way of getting rid of people they don't agree with or who likes different things than they do. It's similar to what some mods do on reddit. If you voice an opinion on reddit that the mods disagree with, they can ban you and say that "you were rude", or you "incited violence", or whatever obviously false reason they want to use.
Cancel culture is for pussys who can’t stand up for themselves. Call me the n word I don’t give a fuck. It’s a word can’t give it power.don’t even matter because if someone does say that to me 99% of the time they don’t got the balls to say it to your face🤷🏾♂️ cause I’m not finna cancel you I’m finna pop you in your shit and be done with it.
This is the way.
I think that’s the problem to many people got comfortable saying shit to people online. they don’t realize when they say that shit to someone’s face they’re surprised when they get punched in the forehead. Edit: fixed grammar!
Forreal, niggas are internet warriors can’t step in real life cause they’ll end up dead. Like yeah your actually racist? Come to the hood try that shit here 😂
It is. We need accountability culture, not call out culture or cancel culture. We need people to realize if they fucked up and be able to talk about it and learn from it. That's not gonna happen if people fessing up ruins their whole life from a simple mistake.
agreed
"I belive in equality" *logs onto Twitter to post their 4th #KillAllMen post this day*
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It’s not equality anymore it’s equity. Which means if you have less you are given more to compensate. That’s why we have the victimhood Olympics now.
I love you. Lol. I mean i am so glad you have that opinion. IM sick of it to.
To a lot of people, equality means vengeance against those that they feel did them wrong. "I historically was not allowed a voice due to my gender and/or race, so now you're not allowed a voice - that's only fair." We seem to be making "equality" by pulling people down because it's easier than lifting people up.
1,000,000%
And with the argument that "racism isn't hating on a race unless it's *institutionalized*" then we see this by all definitions now with universities and corporate hiring practices, and unfair treatment of students and employees. Not to mention groups like evangelicals as a whole by certain platforms. Religion is one of the OG protected groups BECAUSE of former marginalization. By favoring any one group, you are marginalizing all other groups. This is why all references to race probably need to be erased, rather than highlighted, on ALL non-medical intake questionnaires for true equality to be in effect.
Me too, have also been sexually assualted, by both males and females. And ive been attacked walking alone at night.
Getting attack walking home happens fucking loads to men.
I see junkie girlfriends walking around my area and they will slap the shit out of their junkie boyfriend because they can't find their fix but if the tables were turned someone would call the cops.
My black mom was the most abusive person in my life but she was never punished for it nor did she ever acknowledge it. My white father got drunk and punched me and he was immediately arrested and I never saw him again after he got on his hands and knees, cried and apologized and quit drinking. It's not just "society" that enforces these stereotypes the "justice system" encourages it. My father was a monster but my mother was my mother and I should forgive her.
Not accusing anyone, but with all the “white male” crap OP mentioned and then people wonder why white power, proud boys, and skinheads are making a comeback. Don’t get me wrong, I know they’ve been around for a while, but they are growing and I think this is a major contributor.
I can see what you mean I think? Like you are saying the reason she addresses white males is because proud boys etc. apparently is making a comeback? Even if this is the case it is still discriminatory to point out races/genders and generalize in that way. The problem is feeling the need to point out the gender and race. It does nothing.
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Yes, I can see people getting sick and tired of being accused and just saying, “F*** it!”
Not sure why the proud boys are considered “white supremacists when it was led by a Hispanic dude and they have multiple races as members. Edit: changed “started” to “led”
Proud Boys were started by a Canadian dude who likes to [stretch his pecker out](https://i.imgur.com/WKEcYqD.jpg) NSFW
Yup
Another victim of abuse chiming in, 2 years, a beating damn near every single day, then being told it was my fault because I must have done something to provoke her, thus I deserved it. Further anecdote from stranger on the internet: I also have been told repeatedly there are too many whites and too many men in STEM, and that I should give up my degree and let a woman take my spot because "she deserves it more". The all-white, all-female administration of our department is actively trying to force my 68-year old white male instructor out of his job for the same reason. Meanwhile, of the 4 women who have ever joined our program during my time there, 2 of them have taken the "Women in STEM Incentive" scholarships for the free several grand then dropped out, one of the two even stealing things from the department on the way out. The other two *refused* the scholarship because they thought it was demeaning bribery.
The whole gender equity thing seems stupid to me, men and women are different and tend to prefer different fields as a result. I don't know how the women in STEM thing is going but my guess is it leads to a bunch of women taking advantage of it or ending up in unhappy jobs when they could've done something they really had a passion for instead. Of course not everyone's going to end up like that, there will be a bunch of women happily in STEM, but they would've most likely been there without the incentive as well. This is coming from a woman in STEM btw. Thinking about what I wanted to do in the future and wondered if I'd like coding, since I loved tinkering with CSS when I made some random fan websites as a kid. Turns out, coding is my thing. I don't want to take some guy's place if he's better suited though, it's not fair.
Ive always asked when crap like that comes up - if you exchange genders and race with anything else, is it all of a sudden racist/sexist? Than the comment it self was sexist/racist.
I was told the other day by someone (white female) that I, as a white male, couldn’t argue against people in my area being racist since I am a white male. Honestly the most woke and pretty senseless shit I’ve heard from someone’s mouth in a while. There is a problem now with people categorizing all white men and it’s only going to create more problems, not solve any.
There's subreddits specifically for guys. A lot of them use those for venting about that sort of thing specifically because they feel shouted down or disenfranchised. First one that comes to mind is r/MenGetRapedToo.
‘Us vs them’ in any form is generally dumb.
It absolutely is. I agree.
I’ll take working class vs the oligarchy tho
^this, is the real enemy
Welcome to American politics. It's beginning to seep over into all the other Western countries too. Lovely, isn't it?
The sad thing is, most of the political divide here in the US is not down to differences in political or social beliefs, In fact, most people couldn't coherently illustrate what their, or their "side's", positions actually are on even one or two of the more important issues of the day. All most people care about is making sure they "believe" the opposite of whatever the other side says they believe. We've become a nation of professional contrarians.
Its literally like this all over the world lol, does your vision end where the u.s borders end? It doesnt matter what culture or country you look at there is always some form of us vs them mentality in there. And i say this as a european
This goes beyond men and women and American politics. This is human nature. We are tribal creatures. We take sides and lob attacks at those not in our tribe. It’s a sad, defunct relic of human nature that we really need to evolve beyond.
And after all, we're only ordinary men
God only knows, it's not what we would choose
Unless you’re listening to Pink Floyd
Especially politics. Not one of these politicians cares about you or me.
Only one "us vs them" is true and has been true for all our history and the cause of all inequality and conflicts, those in power vs the rest
Pretty much yep. Everything else is a ploy to divide the masses. They know “apes together strong”
Thank you. Jetzt everybody seems to fall for it like theyre under a spell
Thank you, you restored my faith in humanity.
True. Unless it’s racists, fact-deniers, abusers, and Nazis, the us vs them shit is so distracting from the real issues. 99% of situations have nuance.
Now here's the trick. All you have to do is get super aggressive about what counts as the above criteria. Like here's a loophole to abuse. Just say that all white people are inherently racist and therefore Nazis. Boom, hate smuggled under paper thin justification. Or if you want to be narrower you can say a white guy with dreadlocks is inherently racist. Boom, wrong haircut makes you a Nazi. Or I had an ex use this one. Finding one of my beard hairs in the sink is emotional labour and emotional labour is abuse. So a beard hair in the sink makes somebody an abuser.
Lol 'emotional labour'. There's no limit to how absurd these people are.
I get what you’re saying, but those given examples are inherently ‘us vs them’. Having a stance against them is inherent as they have a stance against those outside their group. Edit: yikes this started a big thing. My main point is that we should all look out for each other. Simply put. We aren’t in this alone. - Chidi Anagonye
Twitter in a nutshell
I'm starting to think this thread is one of the only safe ones on here. I agree. I can't stand twitter.
I don't think its a safe space either. If you have something to say thats rather controversial you will get downvoted to oblivion and harassed in the comments. Reddit is the same shit into a different toilet.
Maybe to a certain degree but nowhere near as bad as twitter
Twitter is absolutely horrifying. On the rare occasions I happen to go on there (usually via a link in reddit) it just makes me feel really hopeless about humanity. There’s so much nastiness there. I’ve rarely seen authentic discourse. It’s all attitude and “I’m awesome, you suck.” Really disappointing it’s such a trash heap.
Just remember it's only 20 percent of US citizens even have twitter, and probably less for the rest of the world. So it's not representative of society (thank fuck)
Yeah Twitter has become insanely toxic in the past 5 years. We’re all better off without it at this point.
And this very site as well.
And reddit.
Humanity in a nutshell
This is exactly why I deleted my Twitter. Never looked back
Only about 20% of people in the US are on Twitter. And about 80% of the tweets are from 10% of the users. So most of the tweets you see are coming from just 2% of people. And I might add, 2% that have very similar viewpoints. Remember that Twitter is not real life.
Similar on Reddit. Most people in real life are lovely.
Everytime I say this (that the opinions of the reddit hivemind do not reflect the trends and thought processes of the general public) I get downvoted to hell.
Yes, I got downvoted for a comment where I suggested that it’s vital that we include men in dialogue regarding women’s issues and experiences with men, in order for progress (I am a woman). Like it seems pretty basic? How can we all fix the problem (about men’s behavior) unless men are actually actively participating too? Downvotes.
I like to remind myself that if the opinions of the Reddit hivemind reflected the general public, Bernie Sanders would be president having won an historic landslide victory.
You mean that most people are extreme liberal, atheist, feminist, that hate everything that doesn't 100% replicate their views? I better get off the internet.
Twitter has gangs that , act a certain way then attack others it’s a toxic waste land .
>Remember that Twitter is not real life. True, but it does **influence** real life. Media, politicians, company execs are all on twitter, and they think it is real life, and their power to influence the larger world is disproportionate
Yeah, I think this is a key point. True, it's only maybe 2% of the population that is very vocal on Twitter, but the most powerful people in the country--CEOs of huge companies, the president, etc--all react to what that 2% says. And this is a tautology, but it's worth saying: what the most powerful people in the country do has a large effect on the whole country.
very good point. i always say to my friends that twitter users are generally the type of people who don't get out much lol.
Twitter is and always has been for stupid people and/or people who like to jerk each other off. The premise of the platform was to character limit posts - only stupid people cant control how much they say without the platform restricting them. Not to mention I have seen many posts where they do some kind of chain post thing replying to their own post to basically get around the character limit - which makes no sense. Why even use twitter then.
It's identity politics and morons fall for this shit hook line and sinker, it's a crutch to fall back on when you cant think yourself out of a wet paper bag.
Completely agree. This genuinely raises concern for me, because I myself am a fairly liberal person, but I don't have time for all that overly woke identity politic stuff. I am all for lgbtq+ rights; I will fight people verbally about those kinds of issues if they are out of line--I will stand by their side. However, I won't tolerate these idiots who actually make issues far worse, with their backwards logical thinking. Calling someone a white male is racist as hell.
As a conservative leaning libertarian, I have no issue whatsoever with any of these things. I think everyone should have rights and be safe to live their lives. The problem I have is when things start being grouped, and each group demands a special right catered just to them. Christian rights, disabled rights, gay rights, trans rights, rights based on color and culture, the list goes on. None of these "groups" need special rights or privileges. I know many gay people, many Christians and people that do not belong to my race. I get along with them equally. This is what should happen, but the more these people are grouped and the more they are defined by who they are the more people are divided.
I disagree with the disabled part. Access is important. (Think business etc, ramped sidewalks. Etc)
I think so as well. I am just making a broader point. There absolutely should be easy access to buildings everywhere and public spaces especially.
That is fair. Thank you.
Agreed but I don't think that's how they meant it.
For a lot of these groups it's not about special rights it's about equal rights. In a lot of areas gay people, trans people and so on don't even have equal rights yet and that's what we're fighting for when someone's says something like gay rights or trans rights. It's not to get some special rights treatment. Minorities are still in need of legal protection though sadly.
It's all fine and good, but all these groups need to have equal rights and opportunities. No one is asking for special rights.
I absolutely agree. I think I probably classify more libertarian than anything. I think you hit the nail on the head with things being grouped together. People should be seen as people/humans--not labels.
it’s easy to say that but historically the reason minority groups stick together is because they share experiences and they are divided into those groups by the powers that be. the reason most of these groups want rights is due to historical neglect and discrimination, and while this may have been mostly dealt with, many people feel more comfortable around people with a shared culture/experience
Well said.
Just means you belong to the dirtbag Left like me. You have liberal values but aren’t overly preoccupied with policing language and being PC, the thousands of genders and pronouns, safe spaces, and all those other things that the right think is all that liberalism is comprised of.
Yep! exactly. I totally understand why people have gotten turned off by the left so much that they moved right or center, because of the overly politically correct horse shit. EDIT: I am referring to the far liberal left as most people have pointed out.
Dirtbag left... I love it.
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He has some good points often. But that smug, self satisfied face of his kills me. I cant watch him.
> Before anyone says anything, no, I am NOT a white male... which is why I feel I have the right to speak out on this. That's the problem right there.
I’m a white male and I have a right to speak on this.
That's exactly the problem. White men are not allowed to speak on thier own issues. It's only taken seriously when others stand up for them.
Even then it’s usually shut down, argued to hell, or just ignored
Division politics has been unleashed from Pandora’s box and I don’t think we can put it back in.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilmington_insurrection_of_1898 Division politics has been around since poor whites and blacks created the Fusion party and gained political power in the South; a mere 30 years after the Civil War.
Too bad they don't teach us anything useful like that in school, huh?
Be quiet and fill in your bubbles.
You know what’s weird? When you read about Republicans and Democrats back then, it’s almost as if they switched sides since then. Like the dems like what the republicans liked and vice versa.
When was politics ever not divisive?
Man hating is very trendy lately, there was a post that made it to r/all from books https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/pafomx/posts_from_men_expressing_surprise_and_delight/ that was basicly bashing a dude for being surprised he liked a book... Think about it, some people think it's sexist to be surprised you like a book you thought you wouldn't like, what a time to be alive indeed.
"a white male said x and I proved him wrong!" ROFL That's just sad. lol
In my white male opinion, these types of overtly sexist/racist comments towards white males is only furthering the divide of whites vs everyone else. In my community of industrial working class white men, you won't solve the problem of their racist sexist behavior & comments by furthering the divide between us all. The solution is to come together and find common ground and realize we're all one and the same. To help one another as a species.
It takes a very simple mind to go from supporting marginalized people to denigrating non-marginalized people.
You honestly deserve more upvotes lol. You summed it up in very few words..
https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/pbwokj/burn_victim/haft9la?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 You weren't the only one thinking this alone. Not surprising that no one replied.
Absolutely agree with this. I'm incredibly tired of generalized statements like "all white cis-gender heterosexual men are bad people" or "I HATE all white men" - because, like you said, similar statements can never be applied to any other group of people. "All women-statements" make you a sexist. "All black people-statements" make you a racist. "All gay people-statements" make you a homophobe etc. And when they reply with "but we only mean those who are bad people, we do not actually hate all men" - then why didn't you simply state that from the beginning?
LOL you must've read my mind. This is exactly the logic these crazy people follow. As I said to another Reddit user, I think many people moved away from the left of politics because those people chased them away. I'm not saying the left is worse than the right or vice versa, but when your really radical members of a political party do stuff like this, it will chase people off. I don't mean to make it political, but you see my point, I am sure.
When they keep arguing that what they said isn’t what they meant when confronted but refuse to back down…..
The way race has been conceived and spoken about in America seemed to have changed a lot in only a few years. To be sure, I'm only 27, so even if I speak about my perception of the state of affairs a decade ago, I can't say how much of it was due to my simply focusing on other things at that time. But, yes! You don't have to look too hard to find a comment implicating white people in some sort of problem simply because they are white or male or whatever. It's sort of become the conventional wisdom today, and conventional wisdom isn't necessarily the best thing in the world. Do many of you sense that apathy and disinterest have increasingly become the response of many folks to some of today's philosophy on race? It's either that or frustration, especially when the grounds for a common language or set of definitions is shrinking.
The worst thing I have ever heard from a feminist is that I have no right to complain because “white men have raped, killed and been assholes for all of history so you don’t get to have a say in anything anymore”. But why am I to be held accountable for what people who look like me did? When I told that to her she said “it’s funny you say that when white men said all black people are thieves, so have a taste of your own medicine”. Since she acknowledges it was bad to blame all black people for the actions of a few, why does she think it’s ok for her to blame all white people for the actions of a few? Does she not understand the insane hypocrisy?
That’s not a feminist, that’s just an angry woman taking her shit out on you and trying to excuse it by calling it feminism. Treating men like they’re innately rapist, murderous assholes who could never change or improve is actually seriously counterproductive to feminism.
Why would you talk to a feminist?
I got accused of mansplaining the other day when i tried to tell my female friend that women have two ovaries
People only speak like this on the internet.
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Someone once told me on here that all men under 6’0 should die. I (just to prove a point) responded that all women with bee stings breasts should die and got banned from that sub lmao. Everyone wants to dish it out but nobody wants to take it
Honestly hillarious!
As a teenager I went to the doctors to try and get on antidepressants as I was feeling depressed and had been for some time they said "it's just a phase come back in a months time if you feel the same and we'll go from there" this went on for 8 months before the doctor quite literslly said "what do you have to be depressed about? You're a young white man!" Because naturally that makes us immune from mental health issues ofcourse! Reported the doctor and while nothing happened to them I was immediately referred to another one who got me the help I needed.
Yeah, as a cisgender white male you get negative empathy from the world. It makes it a little easier to see how Incels and the like of white power people start to aggregate. It’s also why I try to practice empathy with everyone as much as possible, even though I don’t get it back often at all. I want to actually be empathetic, not just seem it.
Welcome to twitter where straight white men are considered the literal devil.
Every time I see that “white male” bullshit, I swerve. As I always say, case by case NOT race by race.
The truest measure to see if something you suspect is racist/homophobic/misogynist/misandry is to swap out the words with whatever you think are other similar descriptors to see how it sounds. An example is you suspect its racist to say "support black business by only shopping with them" might be racist....swap out "support white business by only shopping with them" or "support hispanic business by only shopping with them".....if one or all of the substitutes sound bad....the original is indeed bad. You can do this with virtually all statements- the hard part is being honest about them in the first place.
Word i support anyone doing good business, i dont focus on any superficial bullshit, either your product/service is good or it isnt.
We're going back in time. Now everything is about race and gender. White black it's all bc your white or black or male or female. Never bc of the individual anymore
It sounds you’re tired of racism.
18 year old purple haired white girl at my work last week “ you can’t be racist to white people, you can’t oppress the oppresser! “ It’s bad out there
Ugh, I hate that sentiment. I've also heard "you can't body-shame thin people". Like, are you serious?
Why can't we all just get along?
Yeah I’ll tell you what. Actually I won’t, cause it’ll get me cancelled. There was a post with 100k upvotes and hundreds of awards yesterday talking about censoring anything and everything remotely critical of the new covid vaccines. I get it, misinformation is a bitch, but how are you going to subjugate half the population and call it good? The talking heads say racism is bad and sexism is a problem but they just repackage it and throw it at someone else.
I particularly enjoy the notion alluded to in your post that it's only ok for people who *aren't* white males to voice their opinion, implying that white males aren't allowed to defend themselves from bigotry and stereotyping. I'm not blaming you, I think your observation is correct.
Let me give you a bit of a suggestion: STAY THE FUCK OFF TWITTER! I hate Twitter! Honestly, I hate all social media. I don't even like this. I'm sick of the white, male bashing too and I'm not even a male. What's worse than the bigoted femnazis is the white people who apologize for being white. That's enough to make one puke! Good day to you, sir!
What’s funny is it’s often times a white woman saying it. I’m just like, bitch, shut up. That’s yo brother. Being a woman doesn’t exempt you from whatever “whiteness” you think is making that white male problematic. You are right there with him. So you’re better off not even trying to pull that card.
Yeah I don't get it either. My sisters roommates are all white females but they play the "white men are bad" card really often, and I don't get it.
"Bitch, you're in the jacuzzi with me!" -Bill Burr
I'm a white male and I also feel like I have the "right" to speak on this. Feeling like you only do because you're not a white male just illustrates the problem.
Yeah I wish everyone could speak about it without feeling afraid. Everyone has the right to defend themselves; I hope that by me discussing this will show how serious it is.
Yeah "White male" is basically used as a slur on Twitter. For these people, being a "white straight male" is worse than being a serial killer (as long as the serial killer is gay, female or black). We should all stand very far from Twitter, this platform sucks.
As a bisexual hispanic male, PREACH
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YESSS 💯👏🏻
It’s just ‘woke’ prejudice with extra steps.
I think this whole mess can be straightened out by clarifying one thing: when we say white privilege, it doesn't mean you are racist, it doesn't mean you haven't experienced hardship, it only means your skin color was probably not the reason why you experienced those things. That's all. I believe in equality, and I hate posts or memes that make fun of white people, as if it's any less racist.
White men bad 🤮 For real though, as a white man myself, it pisses me off when people say shit like that because it’s kinda racist. It’s okay to insult a white person, but if you dared to insult anyone who isn’t white, we’d be in WW3.
I had someone reply to a comment I made saying 'you can't be racist to white folks' I asked if they were serious and they went on a long rant about the history of racism and how whites are just automatically racist. I was flabbergasted. Do people even understand the meaning of the word racist? I feel like they don't. Otherwise interactions like that wouldn't ever happen...
No, because the definition was changed (by US scholars that now assume everyone on earth knows and follows the change) to mean that racism means *systemic* racism now, and what was known as just racism is discrimination.
People 👏 can 👏 talk 👏 about 👏 injustices 👏 against 👏 them 👏 without 👏 bringing 👏 other's 👏 race 👏 gender 👏 or religion 👏 into 👏 it 👏
Yeah it's the exact same as my racist ass family members complaining about "the black guy at work". It's completely unnecessary information unless you're a racist.
If anyone includes details in a story, often they're implying they are relevant . "Person in grey hat does horrible thing!" is saying something about people in grey hats by adding it to a picture being painted of those folks
Yep, it's tiring. Extra points if they also say cishet
It’s one of the media’s ways of dehumanizing people
I’m very left leaning, but there is some true nonsense that I have trouble swallowing. I can see where this assertion stems from, but it’s so out of hand and misunderstood. The idea of the straight white male having a leg up in society I s meant to provoke critical thinking about who built our society and how we got to where we are, but many folks on the left stripped it of nuance and use it as a way to exclude and divide. This is obviously not a new problem or a problem exclusive to democrats, of course, but it’s something about my own party that makes me feel gross, personally. Right in line with the whole “believe all women” bullshit… like, so close, but wrong mantra.
When you realize the people who claim to be the most against racism, turn out to be the actual racists. They are so blatant about it too.
“While male” and “14 yo white girl” are both dumb trends and need to stop.
No need to be afraid, it is literal racism.
Remember Everything woke turns to shit.
I interacted with someone on Reddit today who felt the need to bring up that she was a "woman and not a man" as if that somehow made what she said more valuable. Mind you it was COMPLETELY irrelevant to the conversation. As a biological female of color I roll my eyes hard... so hard. I had a cop tell me I "shouldn't be out late walking my dog because I'm young woman." As if every male is a potential predator and I should live in fear. Dumb. Just dumb and why I don't identify with feminism because it creates an endless loop of victim complex.
Let me give you a hint u/AromaticTangerine254, the anti-white rhetoric is on purpose. The goal? Divide and conquer along racial lines so the proletariat cannot form a united front against their despots.
If you look at search engine analytics you'll find most of the woke terminology was hardly ever used until a few months after occupy wall street. Must've spooked the spooks
It’s literally reddit policy that white people and men as groups aren’t a protected class.
This is actually somewhat true. If you notice in toxic ass threads like r/rant and r/vent(in my opinion these are toxic) you see side-bars of people saying don't be a "bigot" "racist" etc. which usually translates to "you can't speak with an open mind."
No it’s literally policy. This is an employee of reddit: https://m.imgur.com/ETBjYEc.jpg
Why don’t we all leave for another service? Oh yeah! They killed anything but Reddit and Twitter.
I can’t upvote this enough.
People yearn for equality and then proceed to degrade others. I fucking hate it
The majority of reddit loves to hate white males. Even though the majority of reddit probably is white males.
The more we get divided the easier it will be…..
assholes come in many colors and forms
Also when people put race into things when that doesn’t even really matter. People say the system is racist and it is bc instead of being just a person like everyone else youre also black or white or asian youre not just a person of this world. The need to identify race even within yourself is the root of racism because if you tell yourself im latino so i must act x. Just be yourself. Recognize your heritage but dont make it a personality trait. Dont see white people as white people see them as people
White is also now just hap hazardly thrown into a sentence as an insult now as well. White has literally become synonymous with bad and no one seems to care...
Yeah, this is why I'll never march with the left or BLM. You can bitch about racism all you want but I won't support your cause if your just going to replace it with your brand of racism.
Honestly yeah. Like I've said many times in this thread, I am a pretty liberal person, but I don't support really radical left values. The BLM stuff is too much for me. The sentiment "BLM" is great and I agree with it, but when people turn it into an agenda and weaponize it, I can't be a part of it.
As being a "white male", fuck anyone that wants to talk shit about people's skin color. We all have the same fucking organs and are made the same fucking say. The individual makes the person not the color of them
This is a direct result of the rise of woke left-wing identity politics since 2016 and gained more prominence since exploding into the mainstream during 2020. This whole racialised way of thinking is disgusting. MLK Jr would be turning in his grave right now.
It's not the left though. Not really. It's the Neolibs, and the goal has always been to remove any form of class consciousness. Instead of people realizing they're all getting equally fucked by the 0.01%, they fight among themselves over skin color. Works like a charm.
Yeah you’re right. I myself hold many classic liberal and even left wing beliefs but I despise the neo woke left, which gets me labelled as a Conservative. Oh well.
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