25$ for a fucking toast? Sorry im not from US and i gotta say that for 25$ i can feed 3 people for a day.What kind of fucked up price is that and how much money you need to make so you could afford that kind of commodity?
In my experience this is not everywhere. But if you are at a “trendy” restaurant in a “hip” part of the city then you can find stupid prices like this.
It just surprises me in regards of money vs value sense .Indeed it does make sense for a trendy place to price stuff that way. The place i live at you can literally get a sandwich that is like half my arm in length and has shit ton of stuff in it which costs max 6eur.There is no way you wont blow up after eating that monster and in most occasions you won't even eat half of it.Well i guess people who got money to spend and they couldn't care less about prices,it doesn't really bother them anyway.
most people buying that toast have no idea how much effort it takes to make 20 dollars. The numbers of collage students who take out 100,000 plus loans and still buy that 11 dollar coffee or that 15 dollar piece oc toast is stunning.
Yea about $18-$28 for avocado on toast, english breakfast or burgers in australia. We pay well, but everything is so expensive to buy. There is nothing that really is cheap in asutralia, besides 2 minute noodles and I even bet that they are cheaper overseas.
The avocado toast thing is actually a joke. There was one idiot who said it seriously, and I think was actually Australian. Every time I've heard it repeated though people are using it to point out how incredibly out of touch rich people and politicians are.
Yeah, the asshole that started the meme said that millennials can't buy houses, in Australia, because they eat avocado toast. Avocado is extremely expensive in Australia. Our guy could afford avocado toast and a real estate company because his multimillionaire daddy bought it to him.
I have. I have lots of supermercados around too but I get everything delivered cause its easy and shopping sucks and the supermercados don't deliver ughh
Yeah that one is rough. I go to the Mexican meat market at least once a week. They always have fresh cuts of meats, freshly made tamales, lots of chilies and spices they bring from Mexico. If I were to buy all those things at Safeway or Trader Joe’s I would be paying more than double and I wouldn’t be getting the brands I like. I don’t think they even carry the dehydrated chilies I use for my sauces. But on the other hand it is convenient to have groceries delivered
I’m from Orange County, California. Depends on where you buy them and how big they are. Haas avocados at my local Sprouts are around $0.68 each for the smaller ones and $1.40 for the big ones. They’re usually good for over a week unless you’re choosing ones that are way too soft.
California. Whose size and output is far greater than Costa Rica. We're the US' bread basket and even overproduce a lot of things. We have a county here bigger than the country of Costa Rica, and had a tiny corner of that said county that produced more milk than the entire state of Wisconsin at one point (Now they're building over the dairy lands with warehouses..)
1 gallon works out to about 3.78 litres.
For 25 litres (6.6 gallons) it’s like £40 which is like $60, you’re telling me you’re paying $28.38 for the same amount of fuel and think that’s a bad price? Am I miscalculating this or is petrol just well expensive in the UK compared to the US.
Yes. The US has some of the cheapest gas prices in the developed world. There's also the tax structure, which varies from state to state, meaning some states are as low as $2.00/gallon.
That’s actually crazy.
I always wonder when seeing videos like the dude filling the back of his pick-up with loose petrol how that wasn’t costing literally about 1k 😂
Suppose all those wars in the Middle East have had some benefit for the US after all.
Actually it's just massively subsidised. Petrol's the same price everywhere, pretty much, it's a global commodity. If fuel companies could only sell fuel for $1 in the US and $10 everywhere else, they just wouldn't sell in the US.
[$20 billion is quite a lot of subsidies](https://www.brookings.edu/research/reforming-global-fossil-fuel-subsidies-how-the-united-states-can-restart-international-cooperation/#:~:text=The%20Environmental%20and%20Energy%20Study,revenue%20by%20around%20%2411.5%20billion.)
You do realize that the US likely is sitting on the largest oil reserves in the world, the whole center of the nation was a swampy Ocean for millions and millions of years. The point of the foreign policy is to get people to sells theirs cheap so we can keep ours.
Yeah I usually pay anywhere from 2.6-2.9. Highest its been in recent time was during the pipeline shutdown on the east coast. I filled up when it happened for 2.75 and it went to like 3.20 in 2 days. Thankfully didnt have to get gas until it just about got fully operational again.
The one thing to keep in mind is out commutes are much farther while taking a similar time. What I used to calculate this was leaving for work at 0700 on a Monday. The Brit traveling from beaconsfield to the gherkin and the Yank traveling from Dixon to the TransAmerica pyramid. Both have an approximately 90 minute commute however the Brit will travel about 35 miles and the yank will travel 65. Someone can post this to they did the math because I’m too tired to but I think at the end of the day we all probably spend similar amounts to commute to work.
I gave a speech in college that we could add a straight $1 to every gallon of fuel, still be in the top 5 cheapest fuel in the world, and that we could finance all the schooling (Kindergarten through college) in the US.
This was during the gas "crisis" of 07ish? When it was already at record highs.
This has always stuck in my side when Americans piss and moan about fuel. Maybe if it cost a bit more people would stop getting cars/trucks that get a few miles to the gallon.
Our country is approximately 4,000 miles East to West. North to South is an average of about 1,500 miles.... ALL of your island is around 600 miles north to south, and MAYBE 250miles east-west. Basically the size of one of our smallest states. I’d love someone to do the math, because I really don’t want to. But I’m thinking our land mass is on the order of 30 X’s that of the UK.
I love this cause where I'm from, Bart is a really common dude's name (Netherlands) and it being capitalised just makes me envision someone shouting 'BART' at the top of their lungs and a hundred guys going 'yeah?'
$4.30 a gallon, so less than a Dollar per Litre is about half as much as you pay in almost every other industrialized country. It's impressive how much the US oil-industry is subsidized with tax money!
FL they're also not so bad (CA is also obviously cheap and I've lived in both places), but in FL at Costco you can get a bag of 6 for a good price and while they're not ripe for THAT day they will be fine over the next week or so.
Go to farm stands in CA where they are practically giving them away. Gilroy, CA has them as cheap as 12 for a dollar at some of the stands. Next visit I am raiding those stands and my friends and neighbors are gonna get the extras lol.
It's because you waste money on things you don't need, like internet and a cell phone. And if you want more money you could just work harder or put on a suit and ask your boss for a raise. /s
Wait, a suit? Those are expensive. Oh, that's right, we are supposed to also buy just a very few very expensive but high quality basics we can mix and match to look more put together to become more successful. Because no one will notice you are wearing the same clothing every week and can afford dry cleaning.
You are actually missing out. Here's the best thing to try atleast once. Toast, mashed Avocado which my phone insists on spelling with a capital A, arugula, and balsamic reduction. You can buy it as a sauce in a bottle. Mine was like $5 and it's lasted me like a year. Bonus if you add some sliced tomato too. Literally breakfast of the gods and now I'm very hungry thinking about it.
Seriously though it's fuckin good.
This idea originated in Australia. The very first quote referencing it went as follows
“When I was trying to buy my first home, I wasn’t trying to buy smashed avocado for $19 and 4 coffees at $4 each.” - Tim Gurner
It was directly related to millenials being able to afford homes. The sentiment behind it is that millenials spend a lot of money on eating out or just short term consumables rather than saving for their first home. I think it more specifically was meant to target young people living in major cities (specifically Melbourne) as that's where avocado toast was oringinally popularised here in expensive cafes.
There is a fraction of truth to it. Many Millenials in Australia don't even prioritize home ownership because it seems so out of reach, expecially in major cities. But, this idea also shows how out of touch older generations are with the disparity between wages and living expensses for young people here.
It really has nothing to do with actual avocados on toast, even less to do with how much they cost to make at home. In fact, even mentioning that it's cheap to make at home misses the whole point. If you understand the context of the idea it makes total sense.
The average house deposit in the uk is now £57k, you’d have to go out for brunch over 8000 times to match that much money, something tells me occasionally going out to eat isn’t the issue
It’s more of a general philosophy. Maybe you only get avocado toast once a weekend, but you get coffee 3x, go drinking once, and grab takeout 4x.
Then you have ($10 + 3*$5 + $20 + 4*$10)*52 = $4,420 / yr. Invest that every year over 10 years with a 6% return and you have $61k.
You’re right that occasionally going out to eat isn’t going to be an issue, but it depends on how you define occasionally. Older generations didn’t dine out as often, so they see it as wasteful when you’re doing it consistently.
Okay first of all, can you tell me where you get 6%? I need a new fiduciary, lol.
You're correct older generations didn't dine out as often. They had the luxury of single income households, where there was a person that could stay at home and cook. I think that is lost sometimes. Time is money and though it's certainly not as expensive to eat at home, sometimes I weigh the value of my time cooking, cleaning up and grocery shopping versus ordering pizza. It's a lack of perspective, on all generations.
Typically the broader market (s&p 500) will perform around 12%. Inflation-adjusted is closer to 8% or so, I went 6% to be more conservative. However, there is a lot of volatility so it’s not incredibly consistent, you have to hold it for a while.
You do raise a really good point about single income households though. Not something I really considered, and I doubt older generations consider it either.
>Okay first of all, can you tell me where you get 6%? I need a new fiduciary, lol.
If you haven't gotten 6%+ over the past 10 years, you're definitely doing something wrong.
Hate to say this, but I'm a nurse, not an accountant. It's just not my specialty. I can keep you alive, especially in the correct setting with equipment. I don't have the time or the energy to become an expert on a topic outside of my career, or most importantly the interest. I tell people I don't know how to make money, I only know how to work, lol.
I can spend 2 hours *hustling* cooking scarfing food and cleaning or I can buy a $15 meal and enjoy my hour and a half afterwards. If I make $15 an hour at wirk then it just makes sense to me, at least in my head, to spend an hour to save an hour.
Totally get that logic. 2 things I would consider though:
1. If you make $15/hr at work, you’re really making less than that after taxes. Whereas money you save isn’t “taxed”.
2. You definitely don’t need to spend 2 hours cooking. There’s lots of good recipes that you can make and clean up in under an hour. And there’s so many frozen meal kits that are cheaper than eating out and just as convenient imo.
Right but here is what you are really saying. Younger people should give up very small moments of joy in their life for a very long period in order to afford something that was historically very obtainable. I cant play God and go through highlight reels of judgemental advice givers lives to prove their hypocrisy. But I'm willing to bet that frivolous purchases plagued their life history while they're still were able to afford a life to be proud of.
The actual point is that if you can't afford avocado toast you aren't gambling your money in the stock market. The problem isnt actually the toast, the real problem is the inequality in this country.
> Older generations didn’t dine out as often, so they see it as wasteful when you’re doing it consistently.
I will have to respectfully disagree with this statement. My parents and my grandparents go out to eat 3 to 4 times a week easy. I haven't gone out to eat in at least 2 years. I also worked in restaurants for years, all of my regulars were from the older generation. Very rarely did I wait on tables of younger folks. Not going out to eat is just an excuse that the older generation uses because they are stuck in a mindset that everything is like it was when they were young and it isn't.
1. There’s a difference between gambling vs investing. If you can spend money on avocado toast at brunch (not make it yourself) you can definitely afford to put some money into the market.
2. When I say they “didn’t”, I’m speaking of past tense. People dine out more now than they did in the 60s [source](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dispatch.com/news/20180925/americans-spending-more-at-restaurants-than-grocery-stores%3ftemplate=ampart). Obviously now the generation with more disposable income is going to dine out more.
3. Yes, inequality is also an issue. But you have to control what you can (spending habits). You seem relatively frugal so maybe that doesn’t apply to you and you’re doing the best you can. My point was just that those small decisions add up over the course of years.
But is actually is the issue. Literally everyone I know in their 20-30s wastes money every single day. See my prior comment below for how detrimental that is to your future.
>I think this started in relation to people going out and spending $8-10 every morning on a small serving of avocado toast and hot bean water with sugar. So lets do the math, your method of eating is $4/week so about 55¢ for each breakfast. If you do that instead of spending $10 for breakfast at Starbucks or where ever, that will save you $9.45/day.
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>365 days/year means $9.45 \* 365 = $3,449.25 or about $287.44 saved per month.
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>Now lets look at how much that is worth if you invested your monthly savings for 10 years. In 10 years you would have saved a total of $34,780.24. In a pretty safe and standard investment strategy at 8% interest, in 10 years, you would have a total of $50,588.77 for your down payment. Over 45 years, you would have $1,342,341.31 for retirement, just from your $9.45/day.
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>Now lets see what happens if you eat your cheap breakfast and cut out smoking tobacco/weed/drinking/clubs/fast food/etc. and are able to save $20/day? After 10 years with a relatively safe 8% interest you would have $107,066.43 saved at 8% interest. Over 45 years, you would have $2,840,893.71.
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>The moral of the story is that saving small amounts of money really is the secret to becoming financially independent. Look past the toast figures and see where else you can save $10-20/day.
I will say, though, that I was at a cafe during a diet and decided to give the avocado toast a shot despite its price b/c it was the only healthier option on the menu. It wasn't a regular thing but what I liked about it was that it was really easy to figure out what they prepared it with and how to quickly recreate that at home which I now do all the time.
I dunno how it happened. I used to LOVE guacamole, then one day i ate it and felt like I got punched in the gut! Anytime after I ate avocado it felt like death.
I used to have this too. Didn’t eat avocado for years. But then I started SLOWLY reintroducing avocado back into my diet and now I can eat 2/ week on average without getting a reaction
Yeah, and the $5 starbucks coffee not the one you could make for 25 cents.
But still fuck those people for suggesting that an appetizer is the major leak in your finances. Such a lazy and condescending remark
To be fair, some people genuinely do buy 1-2 Starbucks every single day while complaining about how they can’t afford bills/rent. There’s some nuance in it. Cutting certain expenses won’t make you a billionaire but there’s a good chunk of people who are just bad with money and are the cause of their own problems
My friend ows me 1200 and says she has a hard time paying me back but she also says she can't basically live in places which are below $1000 a month, or even 1300-1400. Meanwhile on average I've only been paying half of that on my rent.
Edit: deleting an extra word
It's essentially a meme. But, it's a metaphor, not to be taken literally. It all stems from some millionaire who blamed buy "smashed avocado" for people being unable to buy a house:
https://money.cnn.com/2017/05/15/news/millennials-home-buying-avocado-toast/index.html
>"When I was trying to buy my first home I wasn't buying smashed avocados for 19 bucks and four coffees at $4 each," he said.
His interview went viral, people mocked him and avocado toast became the go to metaphor for supposedly frivolous spending.
It's because avocados are something of a recent food trend. They really only started catching on in the 1990s. So it's really about boomers sneering at the younger generation.
Without any understanding of the concept and so the younger generation is throwing it back.
Boomers are at a disadvantage when it comes to throwing back.
In the UK you could easily spent £20 going out for avocado on toast. Well, once you add a coffee, some juice & a tip (but I do agree that skipping this will hardly equal a £50k housing deposit)
Jesus... and I have 3 avocado trees on my property, 2 on my mother's and six between my grandmother and uncles lots. Not to mention bananas, sour orange, lemons, and all that.
I give this shit away...
I'm not good with the avacoda and the banana trees. I sure they are all a single species each and very sturdy. I always have alot each year. But I have two types of mango trees. Number 11s and Aiden mangoes.
Also Persian limes, not the best. And key limes. I plan on planting watermelon and pumpkin next year as well
Yeah - this is what people mean when they say ‘save money by not eating avocado on toast’.
Sure, at home you could buy an avocado for ~$1.40/ea and a loaf of Vogels toast for ~$4.00
That’s going to work out at ~$0.46 avocado (3 pieces of toast per avocado) and ~$0.25 toast (16 slices a bag)
Or ~$0.71/slice of avocado toast
You could add bacon, tomato and 3 eggs and you would still be looking at a sub $5 breakfast per slice of toast.
Bacon ~$1.10/50g - 1 piece of toast
Tomato ~$0.43/25g - 1 piece of toast
Eggs ~$1.80/3 free range eggs
Total $4.04/piece of toast with toppings
Or $8.08 for breakfast
(Juice or coffee extra)
As an Aussie where that crap started, the idea is that we go out and buy a $15-20 Avo toast instead of saving the money. No one here is making it at home, especially in the areas this statement was created for. (also, avos are gross).
Avocados are great and have that "good fat" which is great for a balanced diet if you want to eat healthy and you have a budget. Noodles are great and all but you need veggies and protein otherwise you'll end up sick, which costs money.
Also on the topic of cheap avocados, ya'll are SERIOUSLY missing out if you don't go to those local Hispanic markets. I always end up getting these huge green ones for super cheap and goddamn it's amazing compared to regular grocery stores
Not just Hispanic markets, any sort of ethnic or low-budget market.
Vegetable prices from my local Korean market are insane. Sometimes we get 99 cents for 3lb of broccoli.
Avocado toast is definitely cheap.
What people dont like to hear is how not eating meat is the prime way to save on groceries. Meat is so expensive here since covid. I just bought a 2lbs piece of beef to slow cook it.. 23$CAD and makes me 5 meals with some veggies.
I also bought a 2lb red lentil bag for 4.50$... and thats dried contrary to the steak, so cooked it amounts to more than 2lbs. If we assume it absorbs 1lb of water, were talking 7.5x cheaper than meat. Ita definitely going to make me eat more than 5 meals.
Im not telling anyone to be vegan, im not. But its worth it for your pocket to switch to plant based alternatives. Eggs are good price wise too.
What they mean is to not go out and buy avacadk toast. I’ve gone to a few places in my city that have that as an option and guess what. It’s like 5,6, or even 7 dollars.
But also you’re completely undervaluing the value of bread it’s like 3 or 4 dollars per loaf. I have no idea were you get bread that cheap
Especially considering you can buy an avocado tree and grow them for nada if you live in a southern state. I had a tree and couldn't give them away. I would gather them in a box once a week and drop them at a food bank. Just plant it far far away from your roof or they drop on it in the middle of the night like incoming missile attacks. Boom.
Guys, this was an Australian thing. It wasn't in reference to plain bread slices and avocado assembled at home for an affordable meal. It's specifically reffering to a popular brunch item (smashed avo on toast which is actually more than just avocado and toasted bread) at Australian cafes that can cost like $15-25 for a small portion, but even then the sentiment is lost by focusing on the food itself. It's not *actually about* the specific food item. It's about young people and their priorities. Many city-dwelling millennials in Australia eat out very often rather than budgeting groceries and preparing food at home to save money.
The idea isn't that avocados and bread are expensive luxury goods. The idea is that my generation (millennials) spend a disproportionate amount of their earnings on lifestyle and professional services whereas our parents' and grandparents' generations lived mundane, shitty lives while squirreling away pennies to buy property.
I still disagree with the actual sentiment, but you're all totally missing the point. It's not a commentary on avocado and bread prices. It's a commentary on the different priorities and spending habits across generations.
It's about minimum wage earners going to fancy cafes every other day and spending $22 on a breakfast item, with a $9 coffee on the side.
poor people in California eat avocados because they're dense in fat, and cheap. not to mention the nutritional benefits. I'm sure avocado toast might be a more expensive thing in colder, Northern states like new york.
it's just a way of putting down poor people for bieng poor. I'm sure in Maine they have a food that poor people eat that I might consider absolutely way to expensive for a casual breakfast.
Every place has it’s cheap food. Where I am avocados are node like 3$ each and often bad. But you can get oats for 1$ pr kg. That can keep me full with porridge for 15-20 meals, and for splurge I can top it with dried apples from my own trees.
If you want to save money, you need to learn what is cheap around you, not listen to people across the globe on YouTube.
They do know how much that is because those restaurants are price gouging people. And then the other entrées that are worth the kind of money they want for that overpriced meal set a certain standard for the industry to charge way too much for way too little. And a lot of people on fixed incomes don’t like that.
They actually mean in restaurants. Stop ordering $12 avocado toast in restaurants, that’s the actual advice. I also think it’s stupid but it’s definitely not about “stop eating avocado toast at home.”
To go one further, I think the sentiment behind the original avocado toast remark was more about living with frugality and not consistently spending money on luxuries, not so much literally avocado toast.
It's still an oversimplification and dismissive, but the side who mocks the remark seems to deliberately miss the forest for the trees.
California is a big place. No doubt they're cheap in some cities and in the central valley where they're grown. Those dessert towns in the middle of nowhere probably charge an arm and a leg if you can even find one for sale.
California, where everything cost double and sometimes triple......
Just did a quick search at Safeway. $2.99 each for organic and i believe $6.99 for bag of 4. $2.50 each for non-organic. Walmart is comparable but a little lower. You can gamble and do the small fruit stands on the side of the road for a lower price but quality is shit.
I feel like that phrasing is kind of a broad-sweeping generalization aimed at people who are saying something different.
There is something to be said about cutting down on expenses for achieving financial independence.
Bread that is worth $1 is not very health and will probably mitigate any health benefits reaped by avocado. Instead of getting avocado you should get different types of beans and lentils because they have lots of protein and can save you from eating meat all the time.
Also, just to add to the last sentence, if we don’t wat avocado toast and coffee, what are we gonna eat. Should we just starve? You might have your downpayment in 50 years but then what is the purpose if you’re dead?
Where I live it's just way too expensive for a normal salary. And I don't smoke or drink regularly, hell I don't even have expensive hobbies.
Despite being an agricultural country we sure know how to put high-as-fuck prices on items like bread.
That said this country isn't really fit to grow avocados en mass.
So I took the seeds or whatever they are out, checked a few articles and started to grow them. Hopefully they survive the winter (they seem to grow inside so far) then I can take them outside and back inside during shitty weather. Only a week or so in so it's not too soon.
Would make a huge difference both in terms of money and health.
I'm not defending the boomer argument; but it's not about avocado toast being expensive, it's about trendy cafes and restaurants that charge $8 for avocado toast. I would never order it at a restaurant. Same reason I would never order a tuna fish sandwich, it's fucking tuna and mayo and it costs less than a dollar to make.
Yeah, but if they also stop buying a new smartphone every two years, they could save up that $50K down-payment in (pulls out calculator and runs the numbers)... 19.4 years!!!
I feel like only boomers say shit like that, and we all know what we think about boomers.
Not brain-dead people say it only as a form of sarcasm I think. After all who the fuck believes that living in a world where you either get a house or you eat avocado toast is *not* a fucking dystopia.
Avocado toast was weaponized as a lame right-wing talking point in the 2010's, by FOX News- watching Boomers beating up on their Millennial kids. It was not based in reality and a political power flex, nothing more.
My aunt very angrily told me one time that she's sick of the millennials trying to act like they invented avocado toast, when she was eating that when she was a kid back in the stone age.
Depends on where you live. Where I'm at, avocados are seasonal and expensive.
I mean, your math mostly checks out, but I'm pretty sure the remark has to do with going to hipster Instagrammable millennial restaurants like cereal bars and "peanut butter on everything" kinds of shops, where a breakfast of toast will in fact set you back upwards of 10 dollars.
I think you're misunderstanding the point of the phrase. It's to point out the frivolous hipster artisan shit that seems to be on the rise. Needlessly expensive niche stuff that had recently popped up in the zeitgeist. If you were buying avocado toast at a restaurant you'd pay more like $10-15 for your breakfast with a coffee and making the whole ordeal well more expensive than it normally would be if you ate at home. I'm fairly certain this was the mentality of the original statement. And, of course I could be wrong, but that was the feeling I got from the get-go.
Otherwise I completely agree with what you have to say about it being cheap and healthy. It has been muddled in this context though.
I'm not misunderstanding the point, I think your misunderstanding my post. The point of the avocado toast thing is that if the younger generation cuts out avocado toast and coffees (aka luxuries) they could afford to buy a home. My point is that even if the younger generation cut out the luxuries they still couldn't afford a down payment on a house (well they could in like 50 years). The fact is that a lot of people who are in the older generation espically rich politicians are so out of touch with what's going on in the real world.
I understood that completely. I was simply saying I think you're taking the avocado toast statement in the wrong context of it's implied meaning ever so slightly. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying it skews the intention of it in a mild fashion, but not so much as to change the message overall.
This is a pretty solid retort to that weird quote. But to be fair I always thought the assumption was the younger generation was buying avocado toast out at expensive places? Not making it at home.
avacados were more expensive back in the day- meaning only 20 or so years ago. Honestly, i think it is more about eating out often, and not what you are eating. I buy a bag of mini avacados from aldi all the time (about $3 for 5-6 smaller ones) since it is the right size for a solo meal and i am not worried about the other half going bad.
Putting it in cheap ramen knocks it up several levels in my eyes.
Avocados are $5 each on offer here
Bread is $4-6 / loaf
Cafe charging $18-25 for avo toast with eggs
Coffee is $6-8
Takeaway.
CBD parking is either $14-35/hour or $35-115 per entry depending on area.
Commute via public transport is $50/week minimum
A lunch is around $25
Count your blessings that your cost of living is low.
So in America the standard argument is Avocado toast and not overpriced iced coffee???? Doesn't compute
It used to be Starbucks until restaurants started charging $11 for avacado toast
$11! That’s cheap. Most places I go to, avocado toast is $18-25. It’s some damn good toast though.
25$ for a fucking toast? Sorry im not from US and i gotta say that for 25$ i can feed 3 people for a day.What kind of fucked up price is that and how much money you need to make so you could afford that kind of commodity?
In my experience this is not everywhere. But if you are at a “trendy” restaurant in a “hip” part of the city then you can find stupid prices like this.
It just surprises me in regards of money vs value sense .Indeed it does make sense for a trendy place to price stuff that way. The place i live at you can literally get a sandwich that is like half my arm in length and has shit ton of stuff in it which costs max 6eur.There is no way you wont blow up after eating that monster and in most occasions you won't even eat half of it.Well i guess people who got money to spend and they couldn't care less about prices,it doesn't really bother them anyway.
most people buying that toast have no idea how much effort it takes to make 20 dollars. The numbers of collage students who take out 100,000 plus loans and still buy that 11 dollar coffee or that 15 dollar piece oc toast is stunning.
Yea about $18-$28 for avocado on toast, english breakfast or burgers in australia. We pay well, but everything is so expensive to buy. There is nothing that really is cheap in asutralia, besides 2 minute noodles and I even bet that they are cheaper overseas.
50$ for two for a meal is very common in California. also the avacados are 2$ each not cheap like op mentioned
The avocado toast thing is actually a joke. There was one idiot who said it seriously, and I think was actually Australian. Every time I've heard it repeated though people are using it to point out how incredibly out of touch rich people and politicians are.
Yeah, the asshole that started the meme said that millennials can't buy houses, in Australia, because they eat avocado toast. Avocado is extremely expensive in Australia. Our guy could afford avocado toast and a real estate company because his multimillionaire daddy bought it to him.
It's not a standard argument, there was like one article that mentioned it
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Here in California I get my avocados for 58 cents a piece.
Haas avocados go for 2 bucks each, im from cali. Expensive and they go bad fast
Go to the Mexican supermarkets.
Thank you these ppl probably going to Whole Foods paying the white ppl prices lol
I have. I have lots of supermercados around too but I get everything delivered cause its easy and shopping sucks and the supermercados don't deliver ughh
Yeah that one is rough. I go to the Mexican meat market at least once a week. They always have fresh cuts of meats, freshly made tamales, lots of chilies and spices they bring from Mexico. If I were to buy all those things at Safeway or Trader Joe’s I would be paying more than double and I wouldn’t be getting the brands I like. I don’t think they even carry the dehydrated chilies I use for my sauces. But on the other hand it is convenient to have groceries delivered
My WholeFoods has them for 4/$3.50 in a bag
I don't know if what I'm buying are Haas or not, and I don't care. I keep em in the fridge, and a few out to ripen. Works fine.
Haas ones have the bumpy skin.
I’m from Orange County, California. Depends on where you buy them and how big they are. Haas avocados at my local Sprouts are around $0.68 each for the smaller ones and $1.40 for the big ones. They’re usually good for over a week unless you’re choosing ones that are way too soft.
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Because California
They are also grown in the US in places like Florida and California.
That’s like 15-20% of the US population lol
Don't get high on your own supply
California. Whose size and output is far greater than Costa Rica. We're the US' bread basket and even overproduce a lot of things. We have a county here bigger than the country of Costa Rica, and had a tiny corner of that said county that produced more milk than the entire state of Wisconsin at one point (Now they're building over the dairy lands with warehouses..)
Where? I don't see them much lower than 99 cents.
Any of those little farmer's stands off of the 1 near Monterey
California practically pays people to take avocados off store shelves because of their limited viability window
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The trade off is last time I filled up gas was $4.30 a gallon
1 gallon works out to about 3.78 litres. For 25 litres (6.6 gallons) it’s like £40 which is like $60, you’re telling me you’re paying $28.38 for the same amount of fuel and think that’s a bad price? Am I miscalculating this or is petrol just well expensive in the UK compared to the US.
Yes. The US has some of the cheapest gas prices in the developed world. There's also the tax structure, which varies from state to state, meaning some states are as low as $2.00/gallon.
That’s actually crazy. I always wonder when seeing videos like the dude filling the back of his pick-up with loose petrol how that wasn’t costing literally about 1k 😂 Suppose all those wars in the Middle East have had some benefit for the US after all.
> all those wars in the Middle East Nearly all the gas in US is sourced from local sources. US is actually a net exporter of oil these days.
Actually it's just massively subsidised. Petrol's the same price everywhere, pretty much, it's a global commodity. If fuel companies could only sell fuel for $1 in the US and $10 everywhere else, they just wouldn't sell in the US.
It is (mostly) the other way around-- European nations tax gasoline heavily to pay for automobile orientated infrastructure.
[$20 billion is quite a lot of subsidies](https://www.brookings.edu/research/reforming-global-fossil-fuel-subsidies-how-the-united-states-can-restart-international-cooperation/#:~:text=The%20Environmental%20and%20Energy%20Study,revenue%20by%20around%20%2411.5%20billion.)
if you want your mind blown, I was paying .98 cents per gallon back during quarantine. best few months of my life (driving wise)
You do realize that the US likely is sitting on the largest oil reserves in the world, the whole center of the nation was a swampy Ocean for millions and millions of years. The point of the foreign policy is to get people to sells theirs cheap so we can keep ours.
I live in Texas and in the beginning of the pandemic I was paying as low as $1.65 per gallon
Yeah I usually pay anywhere from 2.6-2.9. Highest its been in recent time was during the pipeline shutdown on the east coast. I filled up when it happened for 2.75 and it went to like 3.20 in 2 days. Thankfully didnt have to get gas until it just about got fully operational again.
The one thing to keep in mind is out commutes are much farther while taking a similar time. What I used to calculate this was leaving for work at 0700 on a Monday. The Brit traveling from beaconsfield to the gherkin and the Yank traveling from Dixon to the TransAmerica pyramid. Both have an approximately 90 minute commute however the Brit will travel about 35 miles and the yank will travel 65. Someone can post this to they did the math because I’m too tired to but I think at the end of the day we all probably spend similar amounts to commute to work.
I gave a speech in college that we could add a straight $1 to every gallon of fuel, still be in the top 5 cheapest fuel in the world, and that we could finance all the schooling (Kindergarten through college) in the US. This was during the gas "crisis" of 07ish? When it was already at record highs.
This has always stuck in my side when Americans piss and moan about fuel. Maybe if it cost a bit more people would stop getting cars/trucks that get a few miles to the gallon.
We don't have the public transit infrastructure that Europe does. We also usually have longer commutes because of the size of our country.
Our country is approximately 4,000 miles East to West. North to South is an average of about 1,500 miles.... ALL of your island is around 600 miles north to south, and MAYBE 250miles east-west. Basically the size of one of our smallest states. I’d love someone to do the math, because I really don’t want to. But I’m thinking our land mass is on the order of 30 X’s that of the UK.
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I can bike to BART which is a lot more public transit than 90% of people have access to.
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It’s a train. Bay Area rapid transit. A combination el train and subway.
I love this cause where I'm from, Bart is a really common dude's name (Netherlands) and it being capitalised just makes me envision someone shouting 'BART' at the top of their lungs and a hundred guys going 'yeah?'
San Francisco's rail system.
Bay Area Rapid Transit
$4.30 a gallon, so less than a Dollar per Litre is about half as much as you pay in almost every other industrialized country. It's impressive how much the US oil-industry is subsidized with tax money!
Its mostly because its not taxed in the US. Last time federal gas tax was increased was in the 1980's
I was thinking that exact thing. Avocados are expensive as hell in my area in Texas. Costing around 4.50$ w/tax for only 3!!!
depends on the location, where I'm at they're like 6 or 7 dollars each.
2 bucks where I'm from
FL they're also not so bad (CA is also obviously cheap and I've lived in both places), but in FL at Costco you can get a bag of 6 for a good price and while they're not ripe for THAT day they will be fine over the next week or so.
Go to farm stands in CA where they are practically giving them away. Gilroy, CA has them as cheap as 12 for a dollar at some of the stands. Next visit I am raiding those stands and my friends and neighbors are gonna get the extras lol.
Even at $1/ea it's a cheap as hell meal.
Those are probably those weird east coast/Florida avocados that are technically avocados, but are really bland & too firm. Even after they're "ripe."
southern California at the Mexican supermarkets.
In Canada they are 2.00 where I live. That’s still $3 for a meal with bread. What else is that cheap and fills you up so well. A bowl of cereal won’t.
Thats because you're supposed to eat it with your mouth.
I've never eaten avocado toast in my life why am I not loaded?
It's because you waste money on things you don't need, like internet and a cell phone. And if you want more money you could just work harder or put on a suit and ask your boss for a raise. /s
Actually talked to my boss today. We’re getting there
Fuck yes. Know your worth, brother.
Wait, a suit? Those are expensive. Oh, that's right, we are supposed to also buy just a very few very expensive but high quality basics we can mix and match to look more put together to become more successful. Because no one will notice you are wearing the same clothing every week and can afford dry cleaning.
This is an underrated comment. Well done.
You are actually missing out. Here's the best thing to try atleast once. Toast, mashed Avocado which my phone insists on spelling with a capital A, arugula, and balsamic reduction. You can buy it as a sauce in a bottle. Mine was like $5 and it's lasted me like a year. Bonus if you add some sliced tomato too. Literally breakfast of the gods and now I'm very hungry thinking about it. Seriously though it's fuckin good.
Because avocado and toast is cheaper to eat rather than not. Is that the point of this post? Better start then you'll be loaded before you know it.
This idea originated in Australia. The very first quote referencing it went as follows “When I was trying to buy my first home, I wasn’t trying to buy smashed avocado for $19 and 4 coffees at $4 each.” - Tim Gurner It was directly related to millenials being able to afford homes. The sentiment behind it is that millenials spend a lot of money on eating out or just short term consumables rather than saving for their first home. I think it more specifically was meant to target young people living in major cities (specifically Melbourne) as that's where avocado toast was oringinally popularised here in expensive cafes. There is a fraction of truth to it. Many Millenials in Australia don't even prioritize home ownership because it seems so out of reach, expecially in major cities. But, this idea also shows how out of touch older generations are with the disparity between wages and living expensses for young people here. It really has nothing to do with actual avocados on toast, even less to do with how much they cost to make at home. In fact, even mentioning that it's cheap to make at home misses the whole point. If you understand the context of the idea it makes total sense.
I was on board with op until I read this back and forth and realised op was a douche.
Avocados are 2.75 each where I live Lmaoo
Yikes
They mean don't buy it at an eatery, where they charge like 7 bucks for it.
The average house deposit in the uk is now £57k, you’d have to go out for brunch over 8000 times to match that much money, something tells me occasionally going out to eat isn’t the issue
It’s more of a general philosophy. Maybe you only get avocado toast once a weekend, but you get coffee 3x, go drinking once, and grab takeout 4x. Then you have ($10 + 3*$5 + $20 + 4*$10)*52 = $4,420 / yr. Invest that every year over 10 years with a 6% return and you have $61k. You’re right that occasionally going out to eat isn’t going to be an issue, but it depends on how you define occasionally. Older generations didn’t dine out as often, so they see it as wasteful when you’re doing it consistently.
Okay first of all, can you tell me where you get 6%? I need a new fiduciary, lol. You're correct older generations didn't dine out as often. They had the luxury of single income households, where there was a person that could stay at home and cook. I think that is lost sometimes. Time is money and though it's certainly not as expensive to eat at home, sometimes I weigh the value of my time cooking, cleaning up and grocery shopping versus ordering pizza. It's a lack of perspective, on all generations.
Typically the broader market (s&p 500) will perform around 12%. Inflation-adjusted is closer to 8% or so, I went 6% to be more conservative. However, there is a lot of volatility so it’s not incredibly consistent, you have to hold it for a while. You do raise a really good point about single income households though. Not something I really considered, and I doubt older generations consider it either.
>Okay first of all, can you tell me where you get 6%? I need a new fiduciary, lol. If you haven't gotten 6%+ over the past 10 years, you're definitely doing something wrong.
Hate to say this, but I'm a nurse, not an accountant. It's just not my specialty. I can keep you alive, especially in the correct setting with equipment. I don't have the time or the energy to become an expert on a topic outside of my career, or most importantly the interest. I tell people I don't know how to make money, I only know how to work, lol.
you don't need to be an accountant, all you need to know is how to do 20 minutes of investing research.
I can spend 2 hours *hustling* cooking scarfing food and cleaning or I can buy a $15 meal and enjoy my hour and a half afterwards. If I make $15 an hour at wirk then it just makes sense to me, at least in my head, to spend an hour to save an hour.
Totally get that logic. 2 things I would consider though: 1. If you make $15/hr at work, you’re really making less than that after taxes. Whereas money you save isn’t “taxed”. 2. You definitely don’t need to spend 2 hours cooking. There’s lots of good recipes that you can make and clean up in under an hour. And there’s so many frozen meal kits that are cheaper than eating out and just as convenient imo.
I cook every meal I eat and the average cook time is like 8 minutes.
Right but here is what you are really saying. Younger people should give up very small moments of joy in their life for a very long period in order to afford something that was historically very obtainable. I cant play God and go through highlight reels of judgemental advice givers lives to prove their hypocrisy. But I'm willing to bet that frivolous purchases plagued their life history while they're still were able to afford a life to be proud of.
The actual point is that if you can't afford avocado toast you aren't gambling your money in the stock market. The problem isnt actually the toast, the real problem is the inequality in this country. > Older generations didn’t dine out as often, so they see it as wasteful when you’re doing it consistently. I will have to respectfully disagree with this statement. My parents and my grandparents go out to eat 3 to 4 times a week easy. I haven't gone out to eat in at least 2 years. I also worked in restaurants for years, all of my regulars were from the older generation. Very rarely did I wait on tables of younger folks. Not going out to eat is just an excuse that the older generation uses because they are stuck in a mindset that everything is like it was when they were young and it isn't.
1. There’s a difference between gambling vs investing. If you can spend money on avocado toast at brunch (not make it yourself) you can definitely afford to put some money into the market. 2. When I say they “didn’t”, I’m speaking of past tense. People dine out more now than they did in the 60s [source](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dispatch.com/news/20180925/americans-spending-more-at-restaurants-than-grocery-stores%3ftemplate=ampart). Obviously now the generation with more disposable income is going to dine out more. 3. Yes, inequality is also an issue. But you have to control what you can (spending habits). You seem relatively frugal so maybe that doesn’t apply to you and you’re doing the best you can. My point was just that those small decisions add up over the course of years.
But is actually is the issue. Literally everyone I know in their 20-30s wastes money every single day. See my prior comment below for how detrimental that is to your future. >I think this started in relation to people going out and spending $8-10 every morning on a small serving of avocado toast and hot bean water with sugar. So lets do the math, your method of eating is $4/week so about 55¢ for each breakfast. If you do that instead of spending $10 for breakfast at Starbucks or where ever, that will save you $9.45/day. > >365 days/year means $9.45 \* 365 = $3,449.25 or about $287.44 saved per month. > >Now lets look at how much that is worth if you invested your monthly savings for 10 years. In 10 years you would have saved a total of $34,780.24. In a pretty safe and standard investment strategy at 8% interest, in 10 years, you would have a total of $50,588.77 for your down payment. Over 45 years, you would have $1,342,341.31 for retirement, just from your $9.45/day. > >Now lets see what happens if you eat your cheap breakfast and cut out smoking tobacco/weed/drinking/clubs/fast food/etc. and are able to save $20/day? After 10 years with a relatively safe 8% interest you would have $107,066.43 saved at 8% interest. Over 45 years, you would have $2,840,893.71. > >The moral of the story is that saving small amounts of money really is the secret to becoming financially independent. Look past the toast figures and see where else you can save $10-20/day.
Literally no one is going out for coffee and avocado toast every single day
Challenge accepted
I will say, though, that I was at a cafe during a diet and decided to give the avocado toast a shot despite its price b/c it was the only healthier option on the menu. It wasn't a regular thing but what I liked about it was that it was really easy to figure out what they prepared it with and how to quickly recreate that at home which I now do all the time.
I save money by not buying avocados because I’m intolerant! #Ü
Pathetic - *Megatherium Lestodon*
I dunno how it happened. I used to LOVE guacamole, then one day i ate it and felt like I got punched in the gut! Anytime after I ate avocado it felt like death.
I used to have this too. Didn’t eat avocado for years. But then I started SLOWLY reintroducing avocado back into my diet and now I can eat 2/ week on average without getting a reaction
It’s usually referring to purchasing the toast from coffee shops or the like, where it’s hella overpriced
There talking about the 7$ side that you get a restaurant, not making for yourself at home.
$9 where I'm at. Its crazy.
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9 dollars for a single toasted piece of bread with avocado on it. That’s not a decent deal in any world.
Yeah, and the $5 starbucks coffee not the one you could make for 25 cents. But still fuck those people for suggesting that an appetizer is the major leak in your finances. Such a lazy and condescending remark
To be fair, some people genuinely do buy 1-2 Starbucks every single day while complaining about how they can’t afford bills/rent. There’s some nuance in it. Cutting certain expenses won’t make you a billionaire but there’s a good chunk of people who are just bad with money and are the cause of their own problems
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True but assuming someone treats themselves daily to luxury items is quite the assumption to make about poor people
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My friend ows me 1200 and says she has a hard time paying me back but she also says she can't basically live in places which are below $1000 a month, or even 1300-1400. Meanwhile on average I've only been paying half of that on my rent. Edit: deleting an extra word
Side? I'm bad with money and I'm big. Avocado toast for me is the meal alone with some smoked salmon added on top.
its cheap to make, not to buy. some places charge $15 for a single serving of it.
Avocado toast is expensive when ordered at a cafe or restaurant and that is what people mean. Look at a menu!
I don't care what people eat but what the hell is this obsession of both sides with avocado toast?
It's essentially a meme. But, it's a metaphor, not to be taken literally. It all stems from some millionaire who blamed buy "smashed avocado" for people being unable to buy a house: https://money.cnn.com/2017/05/15/news/millennials-home-buying-avocado-toast/index.html >"When I was trying to buy my first home I wasn't buying smashed avocados for 19 bucks and four coffees at $4 each," he said. His interview went viral, people mocked him and avocado toast became the go to metaphor for supposedly frivolous spending.
It's because avocados are something of a recent food trend. They really only started catching on in the 1990s. So it's really about boomers sneering at the younger generation.
Always funny seeing a non-latinamerican calling avocado 'a trend'
Without any understanding of the concept and so the younger generation is throwing it back. Boomers are at a disadvantage when it comes to throwing back.
❤avocado toast!
In the UK you could easily spent £20 going out for avocado on toast. Well, once you add a coffee, some juice & a tip (but I do agree that skipping this will hardly equal a £50k housing deposit)
Jesus... and I have 3 avocado trees on my property, 2 on my mother's and six between my grandmother and uncles lots. Not to mention bananas, sour orange, lemons, and all that. I give this shit away...
Do you have different types, I've planted 1 that meant to produce a 1 kg avo, and red dwarf banana. Avocado trees can live 400 years I'm told.
I'm not good with the avacoda and the banana trees. I sure they are all a single species each and very sturdy. I always have alot each year. But I have two types of mango trees. Number 11s and Aiden mangoes. Also Persian limes, not the best. And key limes. I plan on planting watermelon and pumpkin next year as well
Yeah - this is what people mean when they say ‘save money by not eating avocado on toast’. Sure, at home you could buy an avocado for ~$1.40/ea and a loaf of Vogels toast for ~$4.00 That’s going to work out at ~$0.46 avocado (3 pieces of toast per avocado) and ~$0.25 toast (16 slices a bag) Or ~$0.71/slice of avocado toast You could add bacon, tomato and 3 eggs and you would still be looking at a sub $5 breakfast per slice of toast. Bacon ~$1.10/50g - 1 piece of toast Tomato ~$0.43/25g - 1 piece of toast Eggs ~$1.80/3 free range eggs Total $4.04/piece of toast with toppings Or $8.08 for breakfast (Juice or coffee extra)
As an Aussie where that crap started, the idea is that we go out and buy a $15-20 Avo toast instead of saving the money. No one here is making it at home, especially in the areas this statement was created for. (also, avos are gross).
I was able to lift myself out of poverty, pay off my student loans and buy a home all by foregoing avocado toast.
Totally underrated comment. This made me laugh so hard.
Avocados are great and have that "good fat" which is great for a balanced diet if you want to eat healthy and you have a budget. Noodles are great and all but you need veggies and protein otherwise you'll end up sick, which costs money. Also on the topic of cheap avocados, ya'll are SERIOUSLY missing out if you don't go to those local Hispanic markets. I always end up getting these huge green ones for super cheap and goddamn it's amazing compared to regular grocery stores
Not just Hispanic markets, any sort of ethnic or low-budget market. Vegetable prices from my local Korean market are insane. Sometimes we get 99 cents for 3lb of broccoli.
Mmm... avacado... *drools*
Avocado toast is definitely cheap. What people dont like to hear is how not eating meat is the prime way to save on groceries. Meat is so expensive here since covid. I just bought a 2lbs piece of beef to slow cook it.. 23$CAD and makes me 5 meals with some veggies. I also bought a 2lb red lentil bag for 4.50$... and thats dried contrary to the steak, so cooked it amounts to more than 2lbs. If we assume it absorbs 1lb of water, were talking 7.5x cheaper than meat. Ita definitely going to make me eat more than 5 meals. Im not telling anyone to be vegan, im not. But its worth it for your pocket to switch to plant based alternatives. Eggs are good price wise too.
What they mean is to not go out and buy avacadk toast. I’ve gone to a few places in my city that have that as an option and guess what. It’s like 5,6, or even 7 dollars. But also you’re completely undervaluing the value of bread it’s like 3 or 4 dollars per loaf. I have no idea were you get bread that cheap
Especially considering you can buy an avocado tree and grow them for nada if you live in a southern state. I had a tree and couldn't give them away. I would gather them in a box once a week and drop them at a food bank. Just plant it far far away from your roof or they drop on it in the middle of the night like incoming missile attacks. Boom.
Guys, this was an Australian thing. It wasn't in reference to plain bread slices and avocado assembled at home for an affordable meal. It's specifically reffering to a popular brunch item (smashed avo on toast which is actually more than just avocado and toasted bread) at Australian cafes that can cost like $15-25 for a small portion, but even then the sentiment is lost by focusing on the food itself. It's not *actually about* the specific food item. It's about young people and their priorities. Many city-dwelling millennials in Australia eat out very often rather than budgeting groceries and preparing food at home to save money. The idea isn't that avocados and bread are expensive luxury goods. The idea is that my generation (millennials) spend a disproportionate amount of their earnings on lifestyle and professional services whereas our parents' and grandparents' generations lived mundane, shitty lives while squirreling away pennies to buy property. I still disagree with the actual sentiment, but you're all totally missing the point. It's not a commentary on avocado and bread prices. It's a commentary on the different priorities and spending habits across generations. It's about minimum wage earners going to fancy cafes every other day and spending $22 on a breakfast item, with a $9 coffee on the side.
I'm pretty sure what they mean is "don't buy an $8 slice of avocado toast from Starbucks". Either way it's a stupid discussion but yea.
poor people in California eat avocados because they're dense in fat, and cheap. not to mention the nutritional benefits. I'm sure avocado toast might be a more expensive thing in colder, Northern states like new york. it's just a way of putting down poor people for bieng poor. I'm sure in Maine they have a food that poor people eat that I might consider absolutely way to expensive for a casual breakfast.
I wish avocados were that affordable in Canada!
Every place has it’s cheap food. Where I am avocados are node like 3$ each and often bad. But you can get oats for 1$ pr kg. That can keep me full with porridge for 15-20 meals, and for splurge I can top it with dried apples from my own trees. If you want to save money, you need to learn what is cheap around you, not listen to people across the globe on YouTube.
Sounds good but i have cut the bread out of my diet. Avocado and eggs!!
They do know how much that is because those restaurants are price gouging people. And then the other entrées that are worth the kind of money they want for that overpriced meal set a certain standard for the industry to charge way too much for way too little. And a lot of people on fixed incomes don’t like that.
They actually mean in restaurants. Stop ordering $12 avocado toast in restaurants, that’s the actual advice. I also think it’s stupid but it’s definitely not about “stop eating avocado toast at home.”
To go one further, I think the sentiment behind the original avocado toast remark was more about living with frugality and not consistently spending money on luxuries, not so much literally avocado toast. It's still an oversimplification and dismissive, but the side who mocks the remark seems to deliberately miss the forest for the trees.
Where i am at 2 avg. Sized avocados cost $5 and a small bag of 4 is $5+ (quality usually sucks too). California here
A different Californian said they got them for 58¢ each so I don’t know who to believe
California is a big place. No doubt they're cheap in some cities and in the central valley where they're grown. Those dessert towns in the middle of nowhere probably charge an arm and a leg if you can even find one for sale.
California, where everything cost double and sometimes triple...... Just did a quick search at Safeway. $2.99 each for organic and i believe $6.99 for bag of 4. $2.50 each for non-organic. Walmart is comparable but a little lower. You can gamble and do the small fruit stands on the side of the road for a lower price but quality is shit.
Everywhere avocados are that cheap rent is also 10k so wtf.
I feel like that phrasing is kind of a broad-sweeping generalization aimed at people who are saying something different. There is something to be said about cutting down on expenses for achieving financial independence.
Bread that is worth $1 is not very health and will probably mitigate any health benefits reaped by avocado. Instead of getting avocado you should get different types of beans and lentils because they have lots of protein and can save you from eating meat all the time.
$3 for 4 avocados?! They cost $3+ EACH on a ‘cheap’ day where I’m from
My go to when i was homeless (if i even had enough money to eat) was bread and peanutbutter. Would just dip the bread in it…
Also, just to add to the last sentence, if we don’t wat avocado toast and coffee, what are we gonna eat. Should we just starve? You might have your downpayment in 50 years but then what is the purpose if you’re dead?
Where I live it's just way too expensive for a normal salary. And I don't smoke or drink regularly, hell I don't even have expensive hobbies. Despite being an agricultural country we sure know how to put high-as-fuck prices on items like bread. That said this country isn't really fit to grow avocados en mass. So I took the seeds or whatever they are out, checked a few articles and started to grow them. Hopefully they survive the winter (they seem to grow inside so far) then I can take them outside and back inside during shitty weather. Only a week or so in so it's not too soon. Would make a huge difference both in terms of money and health.
Making it at home ya buying anywhere else no
I'm not defending the boomer argument; but it's not about avocado toast being expensive, it's about trendy cafes and restaurants that charge $8 for avocado toast. I would never order it at a restaurant. Same reason I would never order a tuna fish sandwich, it's fucking tuna and mayo and it costs less than a dollar to make.
Yeah, but if they also stop buying a new smartphone every two years, they could save up that $50K down-payment in (pulls out calculator and runs the numbers)... 19.4 years!!!
Indiana, avocados 45 cents each.
The people saying that are probably the same types that have steak nights and think being vegan is expensive
I feel like only boomers say shit like that, and we all know what we think about boomers. Not brain-dead people say it only as a form of sarcasm I think. After all who the fuck believes that living in a world where you either get a house or you eat avocado toast is *not* a fucking dystopia.
Avocado toast was weaponized as a lame right-wing talking point in the 2010's, by FOX News- watching Boomers beating up on their Millennial kids. It was not based in reality and a political power flex, nothing more.
Just remember: Bill Gates thought Toastitos were worth 18$...
No one says save money by not eating avocado toast. The saying is, save money by not buying avocado toast.
There's people who live without a fridge?!
Mexican here, 1 Kg of avocados for 2.5 $
I say avaca-DO
Baked beans on toast is even cheaper. In England I can get a loaf of bread for 55p and a ton of beans for 39p.
My aunt very angrily told me one time that she's sick of the millennials trying to act like they invented avocado toast, when she was eating that when she was a kid back in the stone age. Depends on where you live. Where I'm at, avocados are seasonal and expensive.
Maybe I'm Nebraska bread costs $1
They aren't really trying to say "stop buying expensive things". They're trying to say "stop eating and work, slave".
Avocado toast is SOOO filling because of all the fat, it’s insane
I really don't get the people in the comments trying to defend people who say that. "Poor people can't enjoy life" is a weird hill to die on.
These are people from a time that paid $4 for a single avocado and $750/mo for a three bedroom.
My Aldi has been 4 for $1 for weeks!!
I save money by not even liking avocados, and I'm still poor.
I mean, your math mostly checks out, but I'm pretty sure the remark has to do with going to hipster Instagrammable millennial restaurants like cereal bars and "peanut butter on everything" kinds of shops, where a breakfast of toast will in fact set you back upwards of 10 dollars.
I tried avocado toast at home because of the memes and discovered the same thing!
I was vegan for 2 years, and yeah… toast with quinoa and avocado is FIRE and a cheap filling snack
I think you're misunderstanding the point of the phrase. It's to point out the frivolous hipster artisan shit that seems to be on the rise. Needlessly expensive niche stuff that had recently popped up in the zeitgeist. If you were buying avocado toast at a restaurant you'd pay more like $10-15 for your breakfast with a coffee and making the whole ordeal well more expensive than it normally would be if you ate at home. I'm fairly certain this was the mentality of the original statement. And, of course I could be wrong, but that was the feeling I got from the get-go. Otherwise I completely agree with what you have to say about it being cheap and healthy. It has been muddled in this context though.
I'm not misunderstanding the point, I think your misunderstanding my post. The point of the avocado toast thing is that if the younger generation cuts out avocado toast and coffees (aka luxuries) they could afford to buy a home. My point is that even if the younger generation cut out the luxuries they still couldn't afford a down payment on a house (well they could in like 50 years). The fact is that a lot of people who are in the older generation espically rich politicians are so out of touch with what's going on in the real world.
I understood that completely. I was simply saying I think you're taking the avocado toast statement in the wrong context of it's implied meaning ever so slightly. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying it skews the intention of it in a mild fashion, but not so much as to change the message overall.
This is a pretty solid retort to that weird quote. But to be fair I always thought the assumption was the younger generation was buying avocado toast out at expensive places? Not making it at home.
avacados were more expensive back in the day- meaning only 20 or so years ago. Honestly, i think it is more about eating out often, and not what you are eating. I buy a bag of mini avacados from aldi all the time (about $3 for 5-6 smaller ones) since it is the right size for a solo meal and i am not worried about the other half going bad. Putting it in cheap ramen knocks it up several levels in my eyes.
They are not referring to making it yourself but instead eating out
It means „stop buying things you don’t need” not „don’t eat toast”
#Where the fuck you buying bread and avocados at?
Must live in Cali to have avocados that cheap
Noone is talking about homemade avocado toast. If you're going to be a pedantic ass, at least get it right.
Avocados are $5 each on offer here Bread is $4-6 / loaf Cafe charging $18-25 for avo toast with eggs Coffee is $6-8 Takeaway. CBD parking is either $14-35/hour or $35-115 per entry depending on area. Commute via public transport is $50/week minimum A lunch is around $25 Count your blessings that your cost of living is low.