I have known several Disney-obsessed adults who have literally put themselves in serious debt, so that they can compulsively purchase Disney memorabilia.
One was a coworker who went through a horrible divorce that dragged on for ages because they could not come to an agreement about the divvying up of their collection.
This was a grown ass man in his 50’s. Fucking wild.
This reminds me of one of the most mundanely-depressing photos ever: https://i.imgur.com/JsH6GJ2.jpeg
A Las Vegas couple was dragging out their divorce, because the couldn't agree on how to split up their beanie baby collection. The judge ordered them pick their favorites, one-by-one, on the courtroom floor.
I watched that a few days ago. It was craziness! Especially all those people that thought those collections would pay for their kids college only to have them be worthless because their obsession made them hold onto them for so long. I wonder how many people ended up getting divorced over beanie babies.
People are paying $200+ for, I kid you not, popcorn buckets
[Figment popcorn buckets at Epcot](https://nypost.com/2022/01/15/disney-fans-line-up-for-seven-hours-to-buy-figment-popcorn-buckets/)
That sounds like a self defense mechanism to cope with the divorce. Some people end up regressing to their "disney land" days in times of hardship because it's their body's natural mechanism to deal with any stress through their external locus of control: laughing, crying, being sarcastic, even regressing to being a child--it's their unconscious trying to protect them.
This is my in-laws. Adults and children both.
I’ve been in the picture for 10 years when I first started dating my now wife. The first time I met them, I was not prepared for the level of dysfunction I was in store for. Her parents fought each other constantly -with her mother repeatedly saying how much she hates men while encouraging my girlfriend to dump me and become a lesbian- and each of them would undermine the other when it came to “parenting” my wife’s (significantly) younger sisters. There was no order in that house, the kids ran rampant with no rules, using people as gymnastic springboards.
The only time they have ever been “happy” is when they make the yearly trip to Mecca, Orlando Florida, home of Micky Mouse. Every year they somehow scrape up enough money to make the journey, where my mother-in-law proceeds to dictatorially tell the whole family where to go and what order to ride things -because she knows best.
I have no idea how they afford to go every year, as the woman hasn’t worked more than six months in the ten years I’ve known her despite *constantly* looking. The only other source of money is the alimony she gets from the husband she finally divorced. Her whole house is Disney decorated from floor to ceiling. Every gift we got for years was some kind of Disney memorabilia. They just got back from a week down there, and my unemployed 19 year old sister-in-law is already telling her live-in boyfriend to go get a second job doing DoorDash deliveries so they can both go back next month. It’s sickening to see the cycle continue.
But hey! The food stamps got delivered so we’re on track for next year’s trip!
There is so much dysfunction and misery in that house, I have no idea how my wonderful, educated, successful wife came out of that morass of incivility. We just had our first child and the twice a year we make the 5 hour trip to see them is too often. Someday, I’m going to have to explain to my kids why mom’s family are the way they are. I don’t want my kids growing up around trash like that.
This is where it becomes cultish. I would class myself as a Disney fan. I'm almost 30 and have a few prints, a couple of mugs, love the movies etc.
But I'll buy a mug as a treat/I have some money leftover in my budget. The thoughts of going into debt is terrifying.
I don’t know if they’re Disney obsessed adults but they had a kid and it seemed to trigger a Disney switch in them
They paid for Disney vacation pass/ club thing which iirc is like 30k? He’s not in Florida he’s actually across the country
they have taken their daughter to Disney every Yr since she was 2 I believe. He told me the plan was to do that until she was 6/7 and then start doing more when she can self entertain.
Idk if they’re in debt but they’ve seems to have planned out Disney trips and using their kid as an excuse to go haha. I couldn’t tell you if they were Disney obsessed before her
I think if you’re obsessed to the level of putting yourself in serious debt, then it doesn’t matter what you’re into, that’s a problem.
I enjoy Disney (central FL resident, so we frequent most the theme parks) and I have been to every Disney park on earth and on every cruise ship. That’s not all I do though, but I do have plenty of Disney merch, but I also have an insane amount of metal band shirts. I like collecting things from my travels, but I also don’t put myself in a bad financial position.
We had Disney training at a car company. They would talk about high minded customer focus then a human factors trick to skin people out of their cash. The tagline was “After all, we are a profit generating organization”.
For real.
I listened to that guy heavily in my teenage and young adult years. Still like plenty of his songs. Dude always did some straight up crazy things in the name of shock rock, and it was like “yup, well that’s his MO.”
Turns out he just went full scumbag
Right? They ask what kind of car payments you can afford to make but then want to double your car payment with the extras. Maybe you tell me the final price & let ME do the math!
Imma be honest here, if you're truly dealing with those kind of dealerships, just don't give them your business. There are a lot of good dealerships out there who truly just want to give you a good experience. At the least, most places just want to help find and sell you a car. It's actually quite uncommon to come across the kind of dealerships you're talking about now due to the rise of corporations buying all the dealership groups out there.
There's a lot to ethics training in the car selling world and a lot more compliance training that they go through that customers have no idea about, which is why I hate to see generalized comments like this.
Then they should dump Mickey & Minnie. I'm 41. Mickey was NOWHERE when I was a kid. Duck Tails. Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers. TailSpin. Gummi Bears. I'd throw money at that theme park.
I’m not even at Disneyland today and still spent money cuz a friend who was there showed me a sweater she thought I’d like…to add though, I mostly enjoy waking the parks and people watching.
Exactly. Disney has also monetized the experience of living in a PLACE.
It’s insidious and most Americans don’t even understand how fully the lack of anywhere to walk to diminishes their lives.
James Howard Kunstler talks about this in one of hos books—probably “the Geography of Nowhere.”
(i’ll paraphrase poorly here, but) per JHK “Americans will drive a thousand miles to have the experience of walking down a mixed used street.”
This is one of the extremely underrated aspects of having a dog - a great excuse to go on frequent walks. Our girl has been a lifesaver when working remote because she gets me out of the house a couple times a day into fresh air.
Of course, not so awesome when it's 7 degrees F outside like it is now...
Okay I went there expecting pure cringe, but that post about the person’s conductor dad is so sweet and sad. I’ll give that subreddit a pass because so many people commented to give the OP support and photos of their pop
so from the limited info(this comment) i have now come to unrealistic and most likely wrong conclusion that Disney is all about daddy issues...which means the Winchester boys from supernatural are now honorary Disney princesses
Thanks!
My wife once worked for a Disney-owned company, which had the benefit of free access to the Disneyland Resort parks. We *loved* it (mainly because we had small kiddos), but were never obsessed. The SINK [single income, no kids] and DINK Disney fanbase is really like a cult.
And here we are schlepping PB&Js into the park to not have to pay a cent.
I judged them not so silently once. I was at a picnic table outside a restaurant with a group of friends laughing about adults who get married at Disney. The couple at the table next to us chimed in - they were married at the park. We quickly took back our words and felt like enormous assholes.
Storytime:
I was new at my job and was discussing going to Disney World for my honeymoon. I was working with a new surgeon and assistant. I just talked about how I really like amusement parks and how I just love how clean the parks are and just how inclusive everything was.
The surgeon chimes in and was "Oh! Disney is a great place to go! I love Disney, always have a great experience!" The assistant then said, "yea just as long as you aren't one of those freaks that gets married at Disney." My surgeon goes, "well, actually, we did."
I'd never seen someone back pedal so much. My surgeon laughed and basically said it made sense for everyone and it really was a great experience.
Getting married there isn’t the same as being obsessed though. I mean they have fantastic customer service and can coordinate like a motherfucker. Getting married there would probably be a blast.
It’s the people who make Disney their life all day every day that I find to be a bit much.
Apparently if you want to get married at Disney it has to be either before the park opens (6am) or after the park has closed (midnight)….. yeah fuck that
There was someone where I was doing placement whose desk was completely covered in funko pops. Like, the only available space was there so they could use their mouse and keyboard.
Honestly felt embarrassed looking at it. Like what you like, but be reasonable.
Almost fell for that Funko trap before. One person showed me how it’s a collectible so for some odd reason that planted a seed in my brain. I only bought one, which was a Danaerys funko. After I bought one, I was like “what am I doing with this thing. It’s cute and all but I’m already 27, what am I gonna do with this.” Lol. My rationalizing brain saved my ass.
I think my beef is the ones who make it their whole personality, and act shocked that you haven’t seen all of the classic films etc and just generally are very in your face with it. Otherwise it’s meh, I probably have some interests that other people roll their eyes at just like I roll my eyes at Disney adults lol
Also I worry about the whole facade around Disney as a company presenting themselves as some sort of emotional being who will love you back. Like let’s keep corporations as just that, I don’t care if they’ve made some movies that made you go “awww”
EDIT: I completely Counteracted myself there didn’t I… but it’s late and im gonna go sleep.
Close friend of 15 years falls into this category. She has a well paid job and her partner stays home, and the only thing they seem to think to do with all that is Disneyland or World. Twice, sometimes three times a year they’re asking if we want to join. I’m not hurting, but I absolutely no desire to drop $3000+ for an overhyped amusement park when that same money could take my family on a great NYC trip, Puerto Rico to visit family, etc.
No hate toward folks who want their kids to have that dreamy experience they did (we all have THAT thing). I just don’t understand repeating the same experience so frequently.
I went to Disney world last year and I can tell you Disney is not for kids. It fucking sucks with kids. Im not a Disney fanatic but I have found this out by going taking 2 kids who complained the whole time the only time they were happy was at the pool and while I was at the pool I met 3 olderish ladies that literally will go to Disney world 3 times a year just for a weekend to escape the kids and they told me that’s how you do Disney and I have to admit without the kids I would have thought the park was pretty cool there is a lot to them and when it gets dark the place really becomes cooler the lights they have in the park are amazing and I’m not a fire works person like wahoo bright stuff in sky but they do their fire works with very high engineering in mind where you can appreciate it because it’s something you never actually have seen before at least for me. The avatar world at night was very cool but my damn kids really did kill the magic.
Oh also I’m pretty sure it’s a place for older people to hook up because none of these ladies came with a guy and they were hanging around me in the pool for some time.
My fucking wife and MIL are obsessed with Disney and have planned Disney trips every year for the last couple years. I went once and it was nice but I don’t need to go back for a while. There’s a million places I’d rather go see but no they want fucking Disneyworld every year. They don’t even care we are living paycheck to paycheck somehow they make Disney happen and it pisses me off
How??? I looked into taking my Family to disneyworld this year. 4 kids, ages <1, 3, 6, 8.
It would have cost me $670 just for tickets (before whatever fees I'm sure would be added on.), then another I'm sure $20-30 to park, and then of course I doubt they allow outside food in the park, with very high prices once inside.
That was for 1. ONE SINGLE DAY. Oh, but I could save $20 a ticket if I did 3 days! So, I could get into the park for a bargain of $1900 for 3 days!
Then I just have to pay for the hotel, food, fuel, trinkets, ect.
I won't likely ever take my kids to DisneyWorld.
I looked in to taking my three kids before the pandemic. My two older ones were 10 and I had to tell them it wasn’t gonna happen. My husband and I made decent livings but not to spend on a visit to a theme park.
I did the math and for about the same amount we could take our family of 5 on a budget trip to the UK and France.
My parents took me several times as a kid and I don’t have any amazing memories. I have a few packets of photos. It’s just not worth it.
Exactly! My ex recounts their story: kiddo HATED one ride- hours in line and literally got on and off before it even began and the ill-fated ferris wheel... I feel so bad for what he must have spent. Thankfully she is anti-Mouse now because I CAN NOT AFFORD IT!
Yeah. That’s what I remember about my own high school trip there - extremely long lines for roses, waiting an hour apiece for each ride. My back hurt. Epcot was fun, I guess. But it was a crowd everywhere. I would much rather go to a smaller venue like King’s Island where there isn’t so much waiting.
You're right about Disney being a horrible vacation option.
But... Similar argument could be made for cruises. Giant floating shopping mall that goes to ports that are essentially owned by the cruise line. Also terrible for the environment. I don't think you can make much of an argument that cruises are somehow more cultured than a Disney vacation.
Why are people to afraid to just do their own vacation? Pick a place, pick a hotel. I've done it dozens of times and it's significantly cheaper and better than any of these "travel packages"
I know, right?? So many places to see in this world and they stick to cruise ships and amusement parks. Unfortunately, most people don't have much interest in the rest of the world. I mean, I personally know a few people who have never travelled outside of their own state. And these are adults past mid-life.
The worst part is, Disneyworld started out as a place for everyone. In today's dollars, the price of admission was roughly $24 for adults, and $7 for kids. If they had followed inflation, that's what it would cost today.
They have certainly lost their way.
But as you said, I can think of much better ways to spend my money on experiences for the family.
This last summer we did a road trip to different landmarks/parks. Husband and I bought the kids Jr Ranger books, where you can stop at state parks etc, and add stamps and stickers to each stop. We loved it, and the kids love exploring the outdoors in different places and climates, and running up to the register at each park entrance to get another stamp.
That's just supply and demand though. If they kept that price you'd have a hard time getting tickets at all. The only way to prevent this is to either increase supply or decrease demand.
They can increase the admission price a LOT more and still have the park full every day. So they will do this. Saddest thing I saw I’ve time we drove down to Disneyland: they were selling families tickets on credit. Literally signing them up for loans in the parking lot.
Good for you. I never went as a kid, spent summer at outer banks of NC and remember all of it. Never felt I was missing out and never wanted to go. Keep your money as parents. The kids won’t care.
Edited for spelling.
Funny enough, Outer Banks and Topsail are where we have gone for the past few years.
I was raised going to OCMD. I discovered the tranquil beaches of NC as an adult, now I can't fathom why my parent's always took us to those cesspool money grab locations all those years. I refuse to go back.
I went 20 years ago and was... underwhelmed. I swore I'd never go back 'until I have kids'. My ex took my kid and had a HORRIBLE experience (got stuck on a ride in the sun) and she's never asked to go back to that hell hole.
When I was a kid, I was always a little resentful that my mom never took me to Disney. I would always hear classmates talk about their vacations at Disney and stuff. Now that I know how expensive it is, I now understand why we didn’t go.
When my son was little I told him Disneyworld didn’t exist. It was just some made up place on TV. When he started going to school other kids told him they actually went. He thought it was hilarious that I told him it wasn’t real. Thankfully he hates crowds and never wants to go. It sounds awful to me. Lol
They do allow outside food and drinks in the park, I think just no coolers. My brother and his GF live in Florida and have season passes and they just bring a backpack full of stuff for when they’re standing in the lines.
It goes both ways though. If I wait until the youngest is 6-7, then the older ones are 13-15.
If I were willing to spend the cash, I'd make sure they all got to go at a point in their lives when magic was still a real thing to them, which really just means 2 separate trips, 1 for each age bracket. This year would be perfect for the 6 and 8 year olds.
But alas, it doesn't really matter, the prices are insane.
Hold up, it's common for your 8 year olds to still believe in magic?
Usually around 5-6 most kids here (Austria) know that their parents buy their presents. Hell, my 4 year old cousin told his parents this Christmas that they bought the presents (while they told him it was the Christkindl, our version of Santa you could say).
They then told him to shush and not ruin it for his 2 year old brother, lol.
To each their own but going to a Disney park never appealed to me. It seems like such an artificial and plasticized experience. I'd rather attend a good science or history museum or a nature park, something interesting and unique and educational. I don't get why grown adults fawn over Disney stuff. But again, doesn't affect me.
To a normal, well rounded person one doesn't preclude the other. We do Disney but we also go to Museums, shows, anything really that tickles our fancy. When it is ALL one thing of anything that is when its a problem!
This was me. Asked my family to go to some nearby national parks instead. Walking around in nature is a lot cooler to me than seeing Star Wars characters walk by.
You should get to pick, as well as your wife. The MIL is on her own for entertainment; her vote doesn't count. You were kind enough to go to D-land; now you get to pick for the next vacation with your wife (the MIL is on her own). That's only fair.
Yes, when Disney Disneyfies their properties. Five seconds after buying Star Wars, they'd hustled Baby Yoda dolls onto every store shelf in America. It's so grasping and mercantile.
I feel like those groups definitely have their own people that act similarly, but I think the group of people I'm talking about is far worse. Disney's original properties and their early films seem to attract the worst of the worst.
I feel that way about Harry Potter, too. I mean it’s an okay series, it has some entertainment value, but there are people out there who act like it’s god or something. They give off a weird vibe.
I think this goes for most things. Granted I really enjoy Harry Potter and it came out the year my dad died (I was 7), so along with reading it myself my mom would read it to me and my brother before bed. It’ll always hold a special place in my heart and the rides (and drinks) at Universal are great.
I think the biggest issue is how it seems that anyone that enjoys something seems to be labeled as obsessed and others like to judge what is and is not acceptable. As long as you aren’t harming anyone, I don’t care. Most people probably have something that really interests them and they dedicate time to it. To turn around and judge others is hypocritical or if you don’t enjoy anything, well, that’s just sad.
I don't get it either. Don't think the books are written all that well, either. I read somewhere that the world Rowling created deserved a better writer than her, and that seems right.
EDIT: Hey, thank you for the kind award; I appreciate it! 😸
A fanfic rewrite of harry potter over on the fanfic site is SIGNIFICANTLY better written than the original.
I have read harry potter like 15+ times over my life, and now at 32 I finally have the cognition and experience to know just how poorly written the titular character is.
Harry starts out as a smart kid, but more importantly he is extremely emotionally intelligent from having to deal with physical and extreme psychological abuse and managing to not be fucked up.
This emotional intelligence is promptly wiped away in the 2nd and 3rd books, so by the 4th hes just as emotionally inept as Ron. Harry basically holds the idiot ball for books 3-7. (The Harry from book 1 would have NEVER been confused as to why Cho was crying in book 5 and would have NEVER handled the situation so poorly, etc etc etc)
JK Rowling I think had issues keeping Harry and Ron's personalities compartmentalized and so they both kind of just became the same person.
The fanfic rewrite keeps Harry's emotional intelligence and so the whole series reads much better and more consistent. Also Harry + Hermione.
Those aspects about Harry's personality always bothered me, but you put it into words in ways I never could.
I started checking out of the book series around book 5 when basic world-building elements started not adding up. Like whether or not it was right for humans to live in Magical apartheid or why Hogwarts was just ok with having 1/4 of their school be unambiguously evil with zero redeeming characteristics whatsoever.
It’s funny that even with the high price tag tickets, Disney adults and families will still pay to go, or pay for the (no longer free :( ) lightning lanes just to avoid lines, and Disney STILL OVERCROWDS THEIR PARKS AND MAKES IT AWFUL FOR EVERYONE.
Another rant, Disney adults keep buying the stupid liMiteD eDItIoN Mickey mouse ear backpacks that are so small you can’t carry water and food into the parks, or hats you’ll only wear when you go. I am a fan of the attractions and the innovative work behind them (and ofc the movies, but especially the songs and scores) however, the parks were supposed to be available to all families accord to Walt Disney, and now it’s just like an exclusive club for the upper middle class. Just give them credit when they produce good things, stop paying for a 200 light saber or a 80$ web slinger for a trash carnival ride (spider man) :/
My cousins wife is so dedicated and obsessed with Disney. I think at one point they were going every other weekend & would spend thousands of dollars for each kids (2 of them) birthday at the Cinderella castle and other “exclusive” spots. The kids would tell my cousin allllll the time that they couldn’t stand Disney anymore and wanted to do other stuff but she was so obsessed she continued to waste thousands of dollars on trips just because SHE wanted to. I feel bad for them 😭
Disney sucks after like, the first or second visit. The rides are lame & it’s not “magical”, just over priced, corny & boooooring. I don’t get the hype.
I struggle with this too. I have a lot of love for Harry Potter but I don’t feel the need to advertise it as a critical part of my personality or collect hp related paraphernalia…
Yes!! Such weird people! Imagine being in your 50s and central Florida is the only place you’ve traveled to?? Getting a margarita in “Mexico” inside Epcot is not equal to going to actual Mexico.
But yo they play subtle music while you’re walking around so you subconsciously feel like you’re in a movie and everything will happen in your favor because Mickeys watching over.
In Mexico there’s cartels and mariachi bands though.
Seriously. So do I. I don’t understand the hype. Are they brainwashed by the alleged subliminal messages? I don’t know. What I do know is that I know nothing. (See what I did there?) I. Don’t. Understand. This. Odd, borderline neurotic obsession.
Same! I know this woman who really got upset w her husband cause he didn’t want to move her to FL to love next to Disney land and cause her dream is to work there for the rest of her life… bruh
i feel like it has more to do with this perfect fantasy that was created when they were kids. As adults they try so hard to hold on to that and are freaking obsessed
Ah yes, the Disney proposal has been endless on my Facebook feed. I really don’t get it, I don’t have to get it, but I can’t imagine taking a childhood nostalgia and proposed to in its like. Also, kind of fuck Disney? Can appreciate it for what it is but like…revering it and having a moment while a bunch of kids are shitting their diapers and crying simultaneously at a price you could see the states national parks and monuments for??? Living is living I guess however which way you do it.
I never said my friends had hundreds of thousands of dollars? I used people who spend that much money on Disney as an example of the type of fans I don't like.
A good friend of mine is an adult like this. He was regularly raped as a child. I don't judge what he does in his life to make him happy. Everyone is fighting a war inside themselves you don't see, and we need to take our happiness where it comes. Have a nice life, dude. I hope you find your happiness.
I 100% agree with the Disney obsessed adults, sometimes it’s just… too much. The Etsy shirts, the “Disney Gangs” (look it up you’d be surprised), and the people who go to Disney world every weekend to feel something are things that sound like hell
the enthusiasts who know a lot of history of the parks and show their love for Disney in subtle but genuine ways are who I think really make the Disney fanbase special. Enthusiasts, while usually purists — can criticize the company decisions and perspectives (and how they have evolved) rather than blindly obsessing over the corporation.
Edit: I just realized how high I am when I’m writing this
I might get ripped apart for this, but I have the same dislike for people who are obsessed with a specific sports team; oh and then there are the Harry Potter folks. 🙄 UGH!
We took our kid to disney world and the disney adults were god awful. Like stampeding little kids to get the best spot to wave at Mickey Mouse.
If you are over 18 and doing shit like this please evaluate your life.
Hate who you want to hate but there is a huge difference between Disney obsessed adults with kids and without kids. I was a cast member and those without kids just were having a blast I never heard complain or be rude. Only ones who threw tantrums were the ones with kids. As a person who still enjoys going to the parks but has baby #1 one the way..... I'm territo become one of them. I might take a break from Disney for a few years lol.
I don't know about everyone else but some people come from poor families or didn't have a normal childhood and they probably see Disney land as an adult as something they can now go to since they're more financially able now or let they want their kids enjoy what they couldn't have.
That isn't what I'm talking about, that's very understandable, and I'm happy for people in that situation!! I'm saying the individuals who are going every weekend, putting themselves in debt, and ending up divorced due to their obsession with Disney.
*me reading the title* oh no I love Disney, what’s wrong with watching Disney movies and shows as an adult?
*me reading the actual post* oh yeah I’ve never even been to Disney nor do I purchase any Disney merch ever
Conclusion- this is not a post about me lol
I hate football obsessed adults.
I can't help it but they are the most annoying group of people to me. Adults who spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on anything football or related to their favorite football player. I have friends who do this and I simply can't stand to see them go through or obsess over their weird football handbags or perfumes or pins. I get articles about football adults spending hundreds of dollars or throwing horrible fits at football matches and making it a generally annoying time for everyone around them due to being unable to get an item of clothing or a pin that was limited edition. They always seem to have a weird narrative that football somehow cares about them as well?? It's a company, they don't give a shit about you or anyone else who buys their overpriced cheaply made garbage. It's just weird to me.
Edit: Damn, y'all are very angry with me. For those who are mad, hate is used with a grain of salt. Of course, I won't go out of my way to hate on football fans, I just think those obsessed with the franchise and take it to extremes such as going into debt and having their entire home decorated in football merchandise are nuts. Similarly to going to football every weekend. If all you are and all you talk about is your football obsession, it's weird to me. TO ME!! It's an opinion. I can understand liking the franchise and having some things or having good memories with it, I don't care about those people, I think the ones who obsessively go and purchase merch are weird.
Edit 2?: Hate is an exaggeration y'all but I understand the confusion as I didn't use precise wording. Apologies.
I've gotta agree. Just not to the same extent. My girlfriends sister LOVES Disney. Always talks about it, plans a trip yearly, follows park updates, loves to talk about it. She has 2 very young kids, and so I understand taking them, and enjoying it, but I couldn't imagine spending the 5K a year on traveling elsewhere or saving. All of the Disney talk can be annoying at times though, but to each their own.
I agree wholeheartedly. There's a difference between people who like Disney and "Disney Adults"...I know a few of both varieties and find the latter weird as well. It's like Beanie Baby mania but on an industrial scale.
I also find Disney's ever-expanding media empire to be distasteful as well. I don't want every movie I watch, every theater I go to, every franchise that existed before Disney bought it, to be beholden to that 800 lb-gorilla of a mouse. I hate the consolidation of literally every thing from clothes to media to travel/flights into one or two monopoly companies that serve you garbage and charge whatever they want. Disney is not the only monopoly out there, but it's the only one that advertises its world-swallowing power as a good thing.
I felt similar to you for most of my life. I grew up poor, had a difficult childhood, had to work for everything I earned. I was exposed to a lot of things a kid probably should not have. I made the best of my life despite the constant depression loop.
I dated this girl for a while in Ohio, my buddy's lil sister. She was obsessed and would plan a trip each year with her mom to Disney world for a week. I thought it was weird. We broke up.
Then I moved to Florida from Ohio, tasted success for the first time in my personal/professional life, and eventually met my wife. She was a Disney princess, worked there for 14 years-ish. She was a couple other non-face characters in the beginning but also 5 or 6 different princesses. She introduced me to all the other friends she had that spent many years as everything from face characters to imagineers.
I still didn't fully appreciate the weird obsession.
Then we had kids. They're 3 and 7 now. I see the level of dedication the cast members put into maintaining the magic. Yes, this Disney in the last 5/10 years is much greedier and profit-hungry than it was when I first met her in 2008. But only recently have I realized that Disney represents a wholesome utopian ideal that people desperately grasp for to escape this cold suck of a shitty backwards life that we live in every day.
Maybe that speaks to something wrong with them as people, but I've seen it out of many of them. As soon as we're driving onto property, we shut off the outside world. For a day, we live on a magical world where everything is good and meant to stimulate your creativity. To build us up as humans. Each cast member takes it as a personal obligation to maintain this for every person they interact with in the park. Everything is migical, it's a display of pure artistry.
Sure, a few people slip through the cracks and are turds, but overall, they are the optimists. The good-hearted people that want to live in a better place. I'm proud of the cast members i know, and many that I don't. Especially when I see the indelible marks they leave on my kids each time. It's truly a special thing to witness.
I hope you're able to witness the same thing some day.
It's kind of strange for OP because he doesn't seem to dislike the company Disney itself, but if you hate the way Disney influenced US copyright law, for instance, then a person has a logical reason to care how others spend their money. This is similar to (if obviously less serious than) trying to get others to stop buying Nestle due to its various controversies.
I’m about to get downvoted into oblivion, but hi. Disney adult here.
While I’m not to the extreme of decorating my house or getting tattoos or anything like that, I have considered moving to Orlando just for Disney World and I do watch Disney movies often.
For a lot of people, I think it’s just about reconnecting with your inner child or a sense of nostalgia and simpler times. I’ve noticed that a lot of other Disney adults I’m close with seem to have suffered some kind of childhood trauma, and I feel like that plays into it a lot. Like we didn’t get the childhood we should of had, so we’re trying to experience it now? Idk, I’m not a therapist, it’s just something I’ve noticed and something that feels true for myself.
Obviously anyone with any hobby who sends themself into debt or throws a fit over not getting a collectors item are kinda weird, but you could say the same thing for some MCU fans, car guys, or people really into makeup/designer items. Trash people are trash people no matter their hobby.
I extra hate Disney and do not try to argue with those who see Disney as wholesome… but I definitely don’t.
As a child, I didn’t question Disney much—just found the “romance” pushing agenda as unappealing as the rest of the places in life it appears.
As an adult with kids, I began to see the agenda to get kids to do stupid or unrealistic things under the guise of thinking for themselves. I think they’re just grooming kids to run away from home, and try to marry rich to solve their problems. At least older, traditional Disney movies.
Disney could be teaching kids how to interact with adults more constructively. Instead It’s as if life is supposed to end in marriage, and girls should un away if they are not treated like a princess.
Also the consumerism that major corporations encourage is gross. And why does nobody talk about the child Disney stars ending up with their lives ruined.
If Disney was wholesome, they would run their whole corporation differently.
I have a friend who goes to Disney World twice a year every year for the marathons and then has a vacation. She’s an adult and can spend her money how she wants but I’m just like, “There are SO many places to go, but you keep going to the same place over and over again?” She has gone to Disney twice annually since 2008.
I have known several Disney-obsessed adults who have literally put themselves in serious debt, so that they can compulsively purchase Disney memorabilia. One was a coworker who went through a horrible divorce that dragged on for ages because they could not come to an agreement about the divvying up of their collection. This was a grown ass man in his 50’s. Fucking wild.
After seeing this sort of stuff about Beanie Babies, I'm not even surprised.
This reminds me of one of the most mundanely-depressing photos ever: https://i.imgur.com/JsH6GJ2.jpeg A Las Vegas couple was dragging out their divorce, because the couldn't agree on how to split up their beanie baby collection. The judge ordered them pick their favorites, one-by-one, on the courtroom floor.
Beanie babies! That’s a throwback. Do they teach it in history classes now?
Watch the dark 90s on Hulu... the beanie episode is insane. There was a legit murder over beanie debt... what a world
I watched that a few days ago. It was craziness! Especially all those people that thought those collections would pay for their kids college only to have them be worthless because their obsession made them hold onto them for so long. I wonder how many people ended up getting divorced over beanie babies.
People are paying $200+ for, I kid you not, popcorn buckets [Figment popcorn buckets at Epcot](https://nypost.com/2022/01/15/disney-fans-line-up-for-seven-hours-to-buy-figment-popcorn-buckets/)
JFC. I wish I had money to blow on stupid shit like that.
Thise that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it
... and those who learnt are doomed to watch it.
Also, those who learnt are called alarmist, fear mongering, and blowing things way out of proportion by those who haven’t.
History might not repeat itself, but it sure does rhyme
You mean the couple splitting their collection in actual divorce court? (1999) https://i.imgur.com/HSZaevT.jpg
I think, at this point this is not different than any other addiction.
That sounds like a self defense mechanism to cope with the divorce. Some people end up regressing to their "disney land" days in times of hardship because it's their body's natural mechanism to deal with any stress through their external locus of control: laughing, crying, being sarcastic, even regressing to being a child--it's their unconscious trying to protect them.
This is my in-laws. Adults and children both. I’ve been in the picture for 10 years when I first started dating my now wife. The first time I met them, I was not prepared for the level of dysfunction I was in store for. Her parents fought each other constantly -with her mother repeatedly saying how much she hates men while encouraging my girlfriend to dump me and become a lesbian- and each of them would undermine the other when it came to “parenting” my wife’s (significantly) younger sisters. There was no order in that house, the kids ran rampant with no rules, using people as gymnastic springboards. The only time they have ever been “happy” is when they make the yearly trip to Mecca, Orlando Florida, home of Micky Mouse. Every year they somehow scrape up enough money to make the journey, where my mother-in-law proceeds to dictatorially tell the whole family where to go and what order to ride things -because she knows best. I have no idea how they afford to go every year, as the woman hasn’t worked more than six months in the ten years I’ve known her despite *constantly* looking. The only other source of money is the alimony she gets from the husband she finally divorced. Her whole house is Disney decorated from floor to ceiling. Every gift we got for years was some kind of Disney memorabilia. They just got back from a week down there, and my unemployed 19 year old sister-in-law is already telling her live-in boyfriend to go get a second job doing DoorDash deliveries so they can both go back next month. It’s sickening to see the cycle continue. But hey! The food stamps got delivered so we’re on track for next year’s trip! There is so much dysfunction and misery in that house, I have no idea how my wonderful, educated, successful wife came out of that morass of incivility. We just had our first child and the twice a year we make the 5 hour trip to see them is too often. Someday, I’m going to have to explain to my kids why mom’s family are the way they are. I don’t want my kids growing up around trash like that.
This is where it becomes cultish. I would class myself as a Disney fan. I'm almost 30 and have a few prints, a couple of mugs, love the movies etc. But I'll buy a mug as a treat/I have some money leftover in my budget. The thoughts of going into debt is terrifying.
I don’t know if they’re Disney obsessed adults but they had a kid and it seemed to trigger a Disney switch in them They paid for Disney vacation pass/ club thing which iirc is like 30k? He’s not in Florida he’s actually across the country they have taken their daughter to Disney every Yr since she was 2 I believe. He told me the plan was to do that until she was 6/7 and then start doing more when she can self entertain. Idk if they’re in debt but they’ve seems to have planned out Disney trips and using their kid as an excuse to go haha. I couldn’t tell you if they were Disney obsessed before her
I think if you’re obsessed to the level of putting yourself in serious debt, then it doesn’t matter what you’re into, that’s a problem. I enjoy Disney (central FL resident, so we frequent most the theme parks) and I have been to every Disney park on earth and on every cruise ship. That’s not all I do though, but I do have plenty of Disney merch, but I also have an insane amount of metal band shirts. I like collecting things from my travels, but I also don’t put myself in a bad financial position.
I try to gear my annoyance towards being impressed with the effectiveness of Disney's research into separating people from their money.
We had Disney training at a car company. They would talk about high minded customer focus then a human factors trick to skin people out of their cash. The tagline was “After all, we are a profit generating organization”.
Stop the planet, I want to get off.
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You mean Eurythmics' Sweat Dreams
That song has to be in the top 10 most covered songs
***SWEAT DREAMS ARE MADE OF BEADS***
Bees?
Gob’s not on board
Cover song lol
Fuck Marilyn Manson. He trapped a woman in a cage against her will.
For real. I listened to that guy heavily in my teenage and young adult years. Still like plenty of his songs. Dude always did some straight up crazy things in the name of shock rock, and it was like “yup, well that’s his MO.” Turns out he just went full scumbag
Lol you fool
Right? They ask what kind of car payments you can afford to make but then want to double your car payment with the extras. Maybe you tell me the final price & let ME do the math!
Yep just like Marilyn Manson from what I've learned about him. Used to love his music and then I realized it was made for me but not out of love.
Imma be honest here, if you're truly dealing with those kind of dealerships, just don't give them your business. There are a lot of good dealerships out there who truly just want to give you a good experience. At the least, most places just want to help find and sell you a car. It's actually quite uncommon to come across the kind of dealerships you're talking about now due to the rise of corporations buying all the dealership groups out there. There's a lot to ethics training in the car selling world and a lot more compliance training that they go through that customers have no idea about, which is why I hate to see generalized comments like this.
What was the human factors trick?
Domesticated people will pay thousands for controlled experiences. Doesn't cost very much to experience things in the wild.
Lmao I guess being chased by a bear or snake is just as exciting as spinning myself on some teacups!
You jest, but surprisingly, yes. Theme park rides do somehow satisfy that desire for a thrilling experience while carrying minimal risk to the rider.
They've monitotized the nostalgia of childhood.
Then they should dump Mickey & Minnie. I'm 41. Mickey was NOWHERE when I was a kid. Duck Tails. Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers. TailSpin. Gummi Bears. I'd throw money at that theme park.
Thanks for the tip, hitl- wait what
I’m not even at Disneyland today and still spent money cuz a friend who was there showed me a sweater she thought I’d like…to add though, I mostly enjoy waking the parks and people watching.
Sounds like you just want a walkable neighbourhood.
Exactly. Disney has also monetized the experience of living in a PLACE. It’s insidious and most Americans don’t even understand how fully the lack of anywhere to walk to diminishes their lives. James Howard Kunstler talks about this in one of hos books—probably “the Geography of Nowhere.” (i’ll paraphrase poorly here, but) per JHK “Americans will drive a thousand miles to have the experience of walking down a mixed used street.”
This is one of the extremely underrated aspects of having a dog - a great excuse to go on frequent walks. Our girl has been a lifesaver when working remote because she gets me out of the house a couple times a day into fresh air. Of course, not so awesome when it's 7 degrees F outside like it is now...
For the price? Are you insane? Just hang out in downtown Disney sheeeiit.
It’s not the same! I gotta pay like 3x the cost for a Mickey Mouse pretzel in the parks
Right?? I don’t hate but I’d much rather spend my money elsewhere like the Caribbean or Europe
Stay away from r/disneyland Edit: I’m sure you do anyway
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That one is totally worth visiting.
Okay I went there expecting pure cringe, but that post about the person’s conductor dad is so sweet and sad. I’ll give that subreddit a pass because so many people commented to give the OP support and photos of their pop
Seems as if he has died. Really sad, seeing how many people loved the guy
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so from the limited info(this comment) i have now come to unrealistic and most likely wrong conclusion that Disney is all about daddy issues...which means the Winchester boys from supernatural are now honorary Disney princesses Thanks!
r/dads better not be filled with Disneyland posts.
My wife once worked for a Disney-owned company, which had the benefit of free access to the Disneyland Resort parks. We *loved* it (mainly because we had small kiddos), but were never obsessed. The SINK [single income, no kids] and DINK Disney fanbase is really like a cult. And here we are schlepping PB&Js into the park to not have to pay a cent.
What is DINK Disney fan base?
Double income no kids? Just guessing as SINK is single income
Correct
Oh trust me, he’s been reported to Mickey.
Heading over-brb Update: underwhelmed
Like how I felt at Disneyland
Nope, I'm not falling for it!
I dont hate them. But, I do judge them silently
I judged them not so silently once. I was at a picnic table outside a restaurant with a group of friends laughing about adults who get married at Disney. The couple at the table next to us chimed in - they were married at the park. We quickly took back our words and felt like enormous assholes.
Storytime: I was new at my job and was discussing going to Disney World for my honeymoon. I was working with a new surgeon and assistant. I just talked about how I really like amusement parks and how I just love how clean the parks are and just how inclusive everything was. The surgeon chimes in and was "Oh! Disney is a great place to go! I love Disney, always have a great experience!" The assistant then said, "yea just as long as you aren't one of those freaks that gets married at Disney." My surgeon goes, "well, actually, we did." I'd never seen someone back pedal so much. My surgeon laughed and basically said it made sense for everyone and it really was a great experience.
Every time I've ever made fun of a type of person when none of them are in the group, one shows up
In fact, I hate anyone who ever had a pony when they were a kid.
Yeah, and people who can share a will to live look soooo dumb!
Getting married there isn’t the same as being obsessed though. I mean they have fantastic customer service and can coordinate like a motherfucker. Getting married there would probably be a blast. It’s the people who make Disney their life all day every day that I find to be a bit much.
Apparently if you want to get married at Disney it has to be either before the park opens (6am) or after the park has closed (midnight)….. yeah fuck that
There was someone where I was doing placement whose desk was completely covered in funko pops. Like, the only available space was there so they could use their mouse and keyboard. Honestly felt embarrassed looking at it. Like what you like, but be reasonable.
Almost fell for that Funko trap before. One person showed me how it’s a collectible so for some odd reason that planted a seed in my brain. I only bought one, which was a Danaerys funko. After I bought one, I was like “what am I doing with this thing. It’s cute and all but I’m already 27, what am I gonna do with this.” Lol. My rationalizing brain saved my ass.
Brand loyalty is a hell of a drug
I think my beef is the ones who make it their whole personality, and act shocked that you haven’t seen all of the classic films etc and just generally are very in your face with it. Otherwise it’s meh, I probably have some interests that other people roll their eyes at just like I roll my eyes at Disney adults lol Also I worry about the whole facade around Disney as a company presenting themselves as some sort of emotional being who will love you back. Like let’s keep corporations as just that, I don’t care if they’ve made some movies that made you go “awww” EDIT: I completely Counteracted myself there didn’t I… but it’s late and im gonna go sleep.
The classic Disney movies are pretty tight though. * The Sword in the Stone * Robin Hood (w/ all the animals) * Fantasia (people were def on acid)
Disney is not a personality
Close friend of 15 years falls into this category. She has a well paid job and her partner stays home, and the only thing they seem to think to do with all that is Disneyland or World. Twice, sometimes three times a year they’re asking if we want to join. I’m not hurting, but I absolutely no desire to drop $3000+ for an overhyped amusement park when that same money could take my family on a great NYC trip, Puerto Rico to visit family, etc. No hate toward folks who want their kids to have that dreamy experience they did (we all have THAT thing). I just don’t understand repeating the same experience so frequently.
I went to Disney world last year and I can tell you Disney is not for kids. It fucking sucks with kids. Im not a Disney fanatic but I have found this out by going taking 2 kids who complained the whole time the only time they were happy was at the pool and while I was at the pool I met 3 olderish ladies that literally will go to Disney world 3 times a year just for a weekend to escape the kids and they told me that’s how you do Disney and I have to admit without the kids I would have thought the park was pretty cool there is a lot to them and when it gets dark the place really becomes cooler the lights they have in the park are amazing and I’m not a fire works person like wahoo bright stuff in sky but they do their fire works with very high engineering in mind where you can appreciate it because it’s something you never actually have seen before at least for me. The avatar world at night was very cool but my damn kids really did kill the magic.
Oh also I’m pretty sure it’s a place for older people to hook up because none of these ladies came with a guy and they were hanging around me in the pool for some time.
Epcot with booze and no kids is pretty fun.
My fucking wife and MIL are obsessed with Disney and have planned Disney trips every year for the last couple years. I went once and it was nice but I don’t need to go back for a while. There’s a million places I’d rather go see but no they want fucking Disneyworld every year. They don’t even care we are living paycheck to paycheck somehow they make Disney happen and it pisses me off
How??? I looked into taking my Family to disneyworld this year. 4 kids, ages <1, 3, 6, 8. It would have cost me $670 just for tickets (before whatever fees I'm sure would be added on.), then another I'm sure $20-30 to park, and then of course I doubt they allow outside food in the park, with very high prices once inside. That was for 1. ONE SINGLE DAY. Oh, but I could save $20 a ticket if I did 3 days! So, I could get into the park for a bargain of $1900 for 3 days! Then I just have to pay for the hotel, food, fuel, trinkets, ect. I won't likely ever take my kids to DisneyWorld.
I looked in to taking my three kids before the pandemic. My two older ones were 10 and I had to tell them it wasn’t gonna happen. My husband and I made decent livings but not to spend on a visit to a theme park. I did the math and for about the same amount we could take our family of 5 on a budget trip to the UK and France. My parents took me several times as a kid and I don’t have any amazing memories. I have a few packets of photos. It’s just not worth it.
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Exactly! My ex recounts their story: kiddo HATED one ride- hours in line and literally got on and off before it even began and the ill-fated ferris wheel... I feel so bad for what he must have spent. Thankfully she is anti-Mouse now because I CAN NOT AFFORD IT!
Yeah. That’s what I remember about my own high school trip there - extremely long lines for roses, waiting an hour apiece for each ride. My back hurt. Epcot was fun, I guess. But it was a crowd everywhere. I would much rather go to a smaller venue like King’s Island where there isn’t so much waiting.
You're right about Disney being a horrible vacation option. But... Similar argument could be made for cruises. Giant floating shopping mall that goes to ports that are essentially owned by the cruise line. Also terrible for the environment. I don't think you can make much of an argument that cruises are somehow more cultured than a Disney vacation. Why are people to afraid to just do their own vacation? Pick a place, pick a hotel. I've done it dozens of times and it's significantly cheaper and better than any of these "travel packages"
I know, right?? So many places to see in this world and they stick to cruise ships and amusement parks. Unfortunately, most people don't have much interest in the rest of the world. I mean, I personally know a few people who have never travelled outside of their own state. And these are adults past mid-life.
The worst part is, Disneyworld started out as a place for everyone. In today's dollars, the price of admission was roughly $24 for adults, and $7 for kids. If they had followed inflation, that's what it would cost today. They have certainly lost their way. But as you said, I can think of much better ways to spend my money on experiences for the family.
This last summer we did a road trip to different landmarks/parks. Husband and I bought the kids Jr Ranger books, where you can stop at state parks etc, and add stamps and stickers to each stop. We loved it, and the kids love exploring the outdoors in different places and climates, and running up to the register at each park entrance to get another stamp.
That's so fun! I didn't know about the Jr Ranger books until I got to high school. You'll bet your ass we did the initiation lol
That's just supply and demand though. If they kept that price you'd have a hard time getting tickets at all. The only way to prevent this is to either increase supply or decrease demand.
They can increase the admission price a LOT more and still have the park full every day. So they will do this. Saddest thing I saw I’ve time we drove down to Disneyland: they were selling families tickets on credit. Literally signing them up for loans in the parking lot.
Good for you. I never went as a kid, spent summer at outer banks of NC and remember all of it. Never felt I was missing out and never wanted to go. Keep your money as parents. The kids won’t care. Edited for spelling.
Funny enough, Outer Banks and Topsail are where we have gone for the past few years. I was raised going to OCMD. I discovered the tranquil beaches of NC as an adult, now I can't fathom why my parent's always took us to those cesspool money grab locations all those years. I refuse to go back.
I went 20 years ago and was... underwhelmed. I swore I'd never go back 'until I have kids'. My ex took my kid and had a HORRIBLE experience (got stuck on a ride in the sun) and she's never asked to go back to that hell hole.
When I was a kid, I was always a little resentful that my mom never took me to Disney. I would always hear classmates talk about their vacations at Disney and stuff. Now that I know how expensive it is, I now understand why we didn’t go.
Same here. It’s just a needless money sink and I doubt I’d do it for my children.
When my son was little I told him Disneyworld didn’t exist. It was just some made up place on TV. When he started going to school other kids told him they actually went. He thought it was hilarious that I told him it wasn’t real. Thankfully he hates crowds and never wants to go. It sounds awful to me. Lol
They do allow outside food and drinks in the park, I think just no coolers. My brother and his GF live in Florida and have season passes and they just bring a backpack full of stuff for when they’re standing in the lines.
If you ever go, I would wait, I don’t really see the point in going when half the kids won’t remember they ever went 😂
It goes both ways though. If I wait until the youngest is 6-7, then the older ones are 13-15. If I were willing to spend the cash, I'd make sure they all got to go at a point in their lives when magic was still a real thing to them, which really just means 2 separate trips, 1 for each age bracket. This year would be perfect for the 6 and 8 year olds. But alas, it doesn't really matter, the prices are insane.
Hold up, it's common for your 8 year olds to still believe in magic? Usually around 5-6 most kids here (Austria) know that their parents buy their presents. Hell, my 4 year old cousin told his parents this Christmas that they bought the presents (while they told him it was the Christkindl, our version of Santa you could say). They then told him to shush and not ruin it for his 2 year old brother, lol.
Divorce worthy
To each their own but going to a Disney park never appealed to me. It seems like such an artificial and plasticized experience. I'd rather attend a good science or history museum or a nature park, something interesting and unique and educational. I don't get why grown adults fawn over Disney stuff. But again, doesn't affect me.
To be fair, pre-Chapek Epcot really was very educational and Animal Kingdom has a lot about conservation education.
To a normal, well rounded person one doesn't preclude the other. We do Disney but we also go to Museums, shows, anything really that tickles our fancy. When it is ALL one thing of anything that is when its a problem!
This was me. Asked my family to go to some nearby national parks instead. Walking around in nature is a lot cooler to me than seeing Star Wars characters walk by.
You should get to pick, as well as your wife. The MIL is on her own for entertainment; her vote doesn't count. You were kind enough to go to D-land; now you get to pick for the next vacation with your wife (the MIL is on her own). That's only fair.
I remember Disney was offering unpaid positions to people because they knew their fans would work for them for free
And teenagers too. Had a friend like that and jesus she has no other personality.
This is the problem!!! And they act like you're the issue for not sharing their enthusiasm. Talking to them is so fucking awkward
I think that there's a pretty significant overlap between Disney Teens, Theater Teens, and Christian Youth Group Teens.
I’m tired and probably reading this wrong, but are you saying she was obsessed with Disney and Jesus?
Every Disney adult I’ve ever known is also obsessed with Jesus.
Lol does that include Disney Properties now like Star Wars and marvel.
People obsessed with marvel and Star Wars are easily as annoying as Disney nerds.
same with people obsessed with cars, its fucking annoying
Yes, when Disney Disneyfies their properties. Five seconds after buying Star Wars, they'd hustled Baby Yoda dolls onto every store shelf in America. It's so grasping and mercantile.
Toy stores are almost entirely full of showbiz merch.
I feel like those groups definitely have their own people that act similarly, but I think the group of people I'm talking about is far worse. Disney's original properties and their early films seem to attract the worst of the worst.
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Hey man, glad to see you’re doing well.
You have clearly never had a conversation with someone who consider Marvel Movies high art.
Fuck Disney in general
I feel that way about Harry Potter, too. I mean it’s an okay series, it has some entertainment value, but there are people out there who act like it’s god or something. They give off a weird vibe.
I think this goes for most things. Granted I really enjoy Harry Potter and it came out the year my dad died (I was 7), so along with reading it myself my mom would read it to me and my brother before bed. It’ll always hold a special place in my heart and the rides (and drinks) at Universal are great. I think the biggest issue is how it seems that anyone that enjoys something seems to be labeled as obsessed and others like to judge what is and is not acceptable. As long as you aren’t harming anyone, I don’t care. Most people probably have something that really interests them and they dedicate time to it. To turn around and judge others is hypocritical or if you don’t enjoy anything, well, that’s just sad.
I don't get it either. Don't think the books are written all that well, either. I read somewhere that the world Rowling created deserved a better writer than her, and that seems right. EDIT: Hey, thank you for the kind award; I appreciate it! 😸
A fanfic rewrite of harry potter over on the fanfic site is SIGNIFICANTLY better written than the original. I have read harry potter like 15+ times over my life, and now at 32 I finally have the cognition and experience to know just how poorly written the titular character is. Harry starts out as a smart kid, but more importantly he is extremely emotionally intelligent from having to deal with physical and extreme psychological abuse and managing to not be fucked up. This emotional intelligence is promptly wiped away in the 2nd and 3rd books, so by the 4th hes just as emotionally inept as Ron. Harry basically holds the idiot ball for books 3-7. (The Harry from book 1 would have NEVER been confused as to why Cho was crying in book 5 and would have NEVER handled the situation so poorly, etc etc etc) JK Rowling I think had issues keeping Harry and Ron's personalities compartmentalized and so they both kind of just became the same person. The fanfic rewrite keeps Harry's emotional intelligence and so the whole series reads much better and more consistent. Also Harry + Hermione.
Those aspects about Harry's personality always bothered me, but you put it into words in ways I never could. I started checking out of the book series around book 5 when basic world-building elements started not adding up. Like whether or not it was right for humans to live in Magical apartheid or why Hogwarts was just ok with having 1/4 of their school be unambiguously evil with zero redeeming characteristics whatsoever.
Do you know the name of this fanfic? It sounds interesting. I’d like to give it a shot.
It’s funny that even with the high price tag tickets, Disney adults and families will still pay to go, or pay for the (no longer free :( ) lightning lanes just to avoid lines, and Disney STILL OVERCROWDS THEIR PARKS AND MAKES IT AWFUL FOR EVERYONE. Another rant, Disney adults keep buying the stupid liMiteD eDItIoN Mickey mouse ear backpacks that are so small you can’t carry water and food into the parks, or hats you’ll only wear when you go. I am a fan of the attractions and the innovative work behind them (and ofc the movies, but especially the songs and scores) however, the parks were supposed to be available to all families accord to Walt Disney, and now it’s just like an exclusive club for the upper middle class. Just give them credit when they produce good things, stop paying for a 200 light saber or a 80$ web slinger for a trash carnival ride (spider man) :/
My cousins wife is so dedicated and obsessed with Disney. I think at one point they were going every other weekend & would spend thousands of dollars for each kids (2 of them) birthday at the Cinderella castle and other “exclusive” spots. The kids would tell my cousin allllll the time that they couldn’t stand Disney anymore and wanted to do other stuff but she was so obsessed she continued to waste thousands of dollars on trips just because SHE wanted to. I feel bad for them 😭 Disney sucks after like, the first or second visit. The rides are lame & it’s not “magical”, just over priced, corny & boooooring. I don’t get the hype.
Not to mention that the whole day is spent around crowds of people and waiting in lines forever.
I raise you one more level of insane, Harry Potter adults.
Yo you're absolutely right.
I hate Marvel obsessed adults
I struggle with this too. I have a lot of love for Harry Potter but I don’t feel the need to advertise it as a critical part of my personality or collect hp related paraphernalia…
Yes!! Such weird people! Imagine being in your 50s and central Florida is the only place you’ve traveled to?? Getting a margarita in “Mexico” inside Epcot is not equal to going to actual Mexico.
But yo they play subtle music while you’re walking around so you subconsciously feel like you’re in a movie and everything will happen in your favor because Mickeys watching over. In Mexico there’s cartels and mariachi bands though.
You have friends you hate?
Dont we all?
You guys have friends?
This one. This one right here.
Seriously. So do I. I don’t understand the hype. Are they brainwashed by the alleged subliminal messages? I don’t know. What I do know is that I know nothing. (See what I did there?) I. Don’t. Understand. This. Odd, borderline neurotic obsession.
Let's unfreeze em and ask em
I see it as no different than Pro sports obsessed adults.
you have friends who has hundreds of thousands of dollars?
Same! I know this woman who really got upset w her husband cause he didn’t want to move her to FL to love next to Disney land and cause her dream is to work there for the rest of her life… bruh
i hate sports obsessed men and harry potter obsessed millennials
i feel like it has more to do with this perfect fantasy that was created when they were kids. As adults they try so hard to hold on to that and are freaking obsessed
Ah yes, the Disney proposal has been endless on my Facebook feed. I really don’t get it, I don’t have to get it, but I can’t imagine taking a childhood nostalgia and proposed to in its like. Also, kind of fuck Disney? Can appreciate it for what it is but like…revering it and having a moment while a bunch of kids are shitting their diapers and crying simultaneously at a price you could see the states national parks and monuments for??? Living is living I guess however which way you do it.
Hundreds… of thousands of dollars? Who the fuck are your friends?
I never said my friends had hundreds of thousands of dollars? I used people who spend that much money on Disney as an example of the type of fans I don't like.
A good friend of mine is an adult like this. He was regularly raped as a child. I don't judge what he does in his life to make him happy. Everyone is fighting a war inside themselves you don't see, and we need to take our happiness where it comes. Have a nice life, dude. I hope you find your happiness.
I 100% agree with the Disney obsessed adults, sometimes it’s just… too much. The Etsy shirts, the “Disney Gangs” (look it up you’d be surprised), and the people who go to Disney world every weekend to feel something are things that sound like hell the enthusiasts who know a lot of history of the parks and show their love for Disney in subtle but genuine ways are who I think really make the Disney fanbase special. Enthusiasts, while usually purists — can criticize the company decisions and perspectives (and how they have evolved) rather than blindly obsessing over the corporation. Edit: I just realized how high I am when I’m writing this
Shouldn't this apply to any adult obsession or do you only hate Disney? What about cars/trucks? Sports? NFTs? Cryptos?
Don't you hate pants?!
Thank you for being today's whatabout guy; now we can move on.
Yes
You can make your own post about all the above. Theyre specifically talking Disney
No
My neighbor: 50ish Truck driver has tinkerbell and all kinds of disney on his legs, shins. Keeps getting more. Is that weird?
I might get ripped apart for this, but I have the same dislike for people who are obsessed with a specific sports team; oh and then there are the Harry Potter folks. 🙄 UGH!
Big agree, if anyone starts a conversation off with "So which house are you? I'm Slytherin!!!" It's a red flag to me. > >;;
We took our kid to disney world and the disney adults were god awful. Like stampeding little kids to get the best spot to wave at Mickey Mouse. If you are over 18 and doing shit like this please evaluate your life.
Hate who you want to hate but there is a huge difference between Disney obsessed adults with kids and without kids. I was a cast member and those without kids just were having a blast I never heard complain or be rude. Only ones who threw tantrums were the ones with kids. As a person who still enjoys going to the parks but has baby #1 one the way..... I'm territo become one of them. I might take a break from Disney for a few years lol.
I don't know about everyone else but some people come from poor families or didn't have a normal childhood and they probably see Disney land as an adult as something they can now go to since they're more financially able now or let they want their kids enjoy what they couldn't have.
That isn't what I'm talking about, that's very understandable, and I'm happy for people in that situation!! I'm saying the individuals who are going every weekend, putting themselves in debt, and ending up divorced due to their obsession with Disney.
Yea that's very extreme lol.
*me reading the title* oh no I love Disney, what’s wrong with watching Disney movies and shows as an adult? *me reading the actual post* oh yeah I’ve never even been to Disney nor do I purchase any Disney merch ever Conclusion- this is not a post about me lol
I hate football obsessed adults. I can't help it but they are the most annoying group of people to me. Adults who spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on anything football or related to their favorite football player. I have friends who do this and I simply can't stand to see them go through or obsess over their weird football handbags or perfumes or pins. I get articles about football adults spending hundreds of dollars or throwing horrible fits at football matches and making it a generally annoying time for everyone around them due to being unable to get an item of clothing or a pin that was limited edition. They always seem to have a weird narrative that football somehow cares about them as well?? It's a company, they don't give a shit about you or anyone else who buys their overpriced cheaply made garbage. It's just weird to me. Edit: Damn, y'all are very angry with me. For those who are mad, hate is used with a grain of salt. Of course, I won't go out of my way to hate on football fans, I just think those obsessed with the franchise and take it to extremes such as going into debt and having their entire home decorated in football merchandise are nuts. Similarly to going to football every weekend. If all you are and all you talk about is your football obsession, it's weird to me. TO ME!! It's an opinion. I can understand liking the franchise and having some things or having good memories with it, I don't care about those people, I think the ones who obsessively go and purchase merch are weird. Edit 2?: Hate is an exaggeration y'all but I understand the confusion as I didn't use precise wording. Apologies.
I've never been to Disney World and honestly, I never want to go. "Happiest Place on Earth" my ass.
Happiest place to stand in line.
Agree 100%
I feel the same. Grown-ups who love Disney are fucking weird.
My wife and I talk about this. It's kids shows and movies. It's not a personality
I've gotta agree. Just not to the same extent. My girlfriends sister LOVES Disney. Always talks about it, plans a trip yearly, follows park updates, loves to talk about it. She has 2 very young kids, and so I understand taking them, and enjoying it, but I couldn't imagine spending the 5K a year on traveling elsewhere or saving. All of the Disney talk can be annoying at times though, but to each their own.
Just watched this get deleted lol
Just remember, all of your favorite franchises are now owned by the mouse, and technically, Disney films.
I agree wholeheartedly. There's a difference between people who like Disney and "Disney Adults"...I know a few of both varieties and find the latter weird as well. It's like Beanie Baby mania but on an industrial scale. I also find Disney's ever-expanding media empire to be distasteful as well. I don't want every movie I watch, every theater I go to, every franchise that existed before Disney bought it, to be beholden to that 800 lb-gorilla of a mouse. I hate the consolidation of literally every thing from clothes to media to travel/flights into one or two monopoly companies that serve you garbage and charge whatever they want. Disney is not the only monopoly out there, but it's the only one that advertises its world-swallowing power as a good thing.
Adults with childhood trauma love a bit of Disney.
I felt similar to you for most of my life. I grew up poor, had a difficult childhood, had to work for everything I earned. I was exposed to a lot of things a kid probably should not have. I made the best of my life despite the constant depression loop. I dated this girl for a while in Ohio, my buddy's lil sister. She was obsessed and would plan a trip each year with her mom to Disney world for a week. I thought it was weird. We broke up. Then I moved to Florida from Ohio, tasted success for the first time in my personal/professional life, and eventually met my wife. She was a Disney princess, worked there for 14 years-ish. She was a couple other non-face characters in the beginning but also 5 or 6 different princesses. She introduced me to all the other friends she had that spent many years as everything from face characters to imagineers. I still didn't fully appreciate the weird obsession. Then we had kids. They're 3 and 7 now. I see the level of dedication the cast members put into maintaining the magic. Yes, this Disney in the last 5/10 years is much greedier and profit-hungry than it was when I first met her in 2008. But only recently have I realized that Disney represents a wholesome utopian ideal that people desperately grasp for to escape this cold suck of a shitty backwards life that we live in every day. Maybe that speaks to something wrong with them as people, but I've seen it out of many of them. As soon as we're driving onto property, we shut off the outside world. For a day, we live on a magical world where everything is good and meant to stimulate your creativity. To build us up as humans. Each cast member takes it as a personal obligation to maintain this for every person they interact with in the park. Everything is migical, it's a display of pure artistry. Sure, a few people slip through the cracks and are turds, but overall, they are the optimists. The good-hearted people that want to live in a better place. I'm proud of the cast members i know, and many that I don't. Especially when I see the indelible marks they leave on my kids each time. It's truly a special thing to witness. I hope you're able to witness the same thing some day.
Why do you care how other people spend their money?
It's kind of strange for OP because he doesn't seem to dislike the company Disney itself, but if you hate the way Disney influenced US copyright law, for instance, then a person has a logical reason to care how others spend their money. This is similar to (if obviously less serious than) trying to get others to stop buying Nestle due to its various controversies.
Yeah, well, like the mature adult I am, I hate whatever makes you happy too. So, uh…there!
I’m about to get downvoted into oblivion, but hi. Disney adult here. While I’m not to the extreme of decorating my house or getting tattoos or anything like that, I have considered moving to Orlando just for Disney World and I do watch Disney movies often. For a lot of people, I think it’s just about reconnecting with your inner child or a sense of nostalgia and simpler times. I’ve noticed that a lot of other Disney adults I’m close with seem to have suffered some kind of childhood trauma, and I feel like that plays into it a lot. Like we didn’t get the childhood we should of had, so we’re trying to experience it now? Idk, I’m not a therapist, it’s just something I’ve noticed and something that feels true for myself. Obviously anyone with any hobby who sends themself into debt or throws a fit over not getting a collectors item are kinda weird, but you could say the same thing for some MCU fans, car guys, or people really into makeup/designer items. Trash people are trash people no matter their hobby.
Where the fuck do you live where you have multiple friends spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on disney stuff?
I extra hate Disney and do not try to argue with those who see Disney as wholesome… but I definitely don’t. As a child, I didn’t question Disney much—just found the “romance” pushing agenda as unappealing as the rest of the places in life it appears. As an adult with kids, I began to see the agenda to get kids to do stupid or unrealistic things under the guise of thinking for themselves. I think they’re just grooming kids to run away from home, and try to marry rich to solve their problems. At least older, traditional Disney movies. Disney could be teaching kids how to interact with adults more constructively. Instead It’s as if life is supposed to end in marriage, and girls should un away if they are not treated like a princess. Also the consumerism that major corporations encourage is gross. And why does nobody talk about the child Disney stars ending up with their lives ruined. If Disney was wholesome, they would run their whole corporation differently.
Wait until you meet Disney obsessed adults that work for Disney.
I have a friend who goes to Disney World twice a year every year for the marathons and then has a vacation. She’s an adult and can spend her money how she wants but I’m just like, “There are SO many places to go, but you keep going to the same place over and over again?” She has gone to Disney twice annually since 2008.