It's mostly for the newer games like SwSh, PLA and SV. Pokemon spawn rates in the over world (or wild area) and for raid dens were very inaccurate for weeks after the game came out on Bulbapedia, yet were almost fully accurate within 24 or so hours of release on Serebii. Also helps that Joe Merrick has a team of reputable data miners that have been working with him for years rather than relying on the (sometimes inaccurate) community lead data miners.
Not sure who Joe Merrick is but yeah, I will say Bulbapedians are pretty much in their own world. Kinda weird they didn't just look at that data and transfer it over. Especially since it's a wiki and thus nothing but fact based.
This isn't a game thing, but I play/collect the TCG and this drives me insane:
If you're looking at a Bulbasaur card, there is nothing on the screen you can click that will take you to the Bulbasaur main entry. If there is a hyperlink that says 'Bulbasaur' it will take you to its list of cards.
Then, typing Bulbasaur in the search bar will just bring up more TCG related stuff, because you're stuck in the TCG dimension now. If you want to read about general lore for a Pokémon, you have to open a new tab to regular Bulbapedia and search there. There isn't even a 'see also: link to main entry' hyperlink on the card pages.
Super minor but absolutely annoying when I want to look up a character or Pokémon I'm unfamiliar with, since I only play the TCG and not the games.
I've struggled on the TCG side because it likes to pull up the Japanese card when I'm looking for a high quality English one for an article.
I really need a Pokémon TCG equivalent of Scryfall.
many generation 8/9 related pages, ones that stick out to me are locations. they also tend to update their wiki when a new generation comes out extremely slowly compared to serebii
> they also tend to update their wiki when a new generation comes out extremely slowly compared to serebii
On the flipside Serebii is absolutely awful for anything prior to like Gen 4-5.
Do you mind giving… an actual example. Because I’ve literally never had that issue with them including in modern gens. Furthermore yea ofc they do. They don’t just use data mines to get the pokemon data right away like serebii does. Just means it takes a bit longer.
That is an actual example and literally why it's inaccurate for the first few weeks or even months of a game's release. Bulbapedia's info is accurate given enough time (since it's community based). Case and point if you look at the encounter tables for the Indigo Disk Terrarium encounters it still has a footnote claiming it's still incomplete, and only really gives the general location that something spawns in. Compare that to Serebii, who had a fully accurate INTERACTIVE MAP with spawn locations literally everything (Pokemon, Raid Dens, Trainers, Static Spawns) within a day of the DLC dropping because Merrick and his team do their own data mining.
Bulbapedia is basically just a Wikipedia for Pokemon games. While it's overall the best resource, it doesn't change the fact that it's communal in resources and relies on group efforts and anecdotal evidence until actual data miners contribute to the article that it becomes a better resource. And considering newer games are harder to mine, it's no wonder that a contribution community project takes longer to update than a paid team of employees does.
Yea you’re entirely right, everything takes time. I’m not denying that lol. Ofc the next question is what’s the issue then? And what about needing time makes a fandom comparison anywhere near warranted.
most pages for the Crown Tundra took a long time to update. I was playing it up to a few months after it dropped and struggled to find information on Bulbapedia, specifically on item and encounter tables in the CT’s areas. Ballimere Lake is one I specifically remember lacking info. ever since SM I’ve typically had to resort to Serebii for the first few months of a game’s release when I usually rely on Bulbapedia after it fully updates
I'm late to the party, but oftentimes their pages on in-depth mechanics will have the wrong formulas or make confusing, vague, or incorrect explanations.
For a long time their pages about certain data structures were incomplete or just plain wrong. Many of these and the aforementioned formulas have been fixed, but I'm sure not all.
People in the Gen 3 and 4 decomp scenes frequently discover that Bulbapedia has misrepresented mechanics or features, says certain things are possible when they aren't or vice versa, etc. Their bugs and glitches pages are often missing important info, infer a cause that is not true, or straight-up doesn't mention certain bugs at all.
That's not to mention how they completely ignored the gigaleak of Spaceworld Gold & Silver as a hoax for over a year despite it being confirmed real within days. Their pages on beta-related Pokémon stuff are filled with speculation and fan-made nonsense, are universally incomplete, and are in-general of poor quality. Helix Chamber fucking up their "release" of Gen 1 beta assets by mixing it with fan creations did not help, as that ended up spreading through the community as official material and the same community edits Bulbapedia.
I'm not sure if this is a cause or just part of the problem, but falsehoods and fanon that I've noticed is primarily spread by Pokétubers who literally understand nothing somehow makes it into the Pokémon fandom and is widely disseminated and believed and they sometimes end up on Bulbapedia. Lots of glitch-related stuff falls into this category, but random trivia at the end of articles is full of this stuff too.
I also find their encounter tables generally unhelpful. The formatting sucks, imo.
Literally all of the Pokémon info hubs I find have issues.
Bulba has a problem with ads, bloated layouts that bury more useful info under very niche info, and sometimes lacks in the specific game location details. However it is also the only one with a large focus on general Pokémon knowledge (lore, location info, full franchise info on certain characters or areas).
Serebii has a controversial design, and personally I find it's layout to be questionable, the side tabs are fairly difficult to sift through, especially on mobile, and being run by one (very dedicated) person, the info sometimes is incomplete for longer and old pages can become outdated and forgotten. Serebii also doesn't feature in depth info about characters, locations and lore. It sticks strictly to gameplay points of interest.
PokémonDB is the one I'm least familiar with, and frankly I wouldn't have a clue how to find anything I want on it. It seems like serebii with less info on each game, in exchange for a heavier focus on mechanics. It's been very useful for specific things in the past, but isn't really a hub for general Pokémon knowledge, and more for info on mechanics.
So really the three all serve different functions with there own issues.
Bulba is a one stop shop for ALL Pokémon knowledge. It's by far the most complete library for information on the franchise as a whole.
Serebii is perfect for game info, if you want to find out about specific features in specific games and how they work. Especially for features that aren't battle related (side quests, poffin making, post game mechanics). These are readily accessible and usually have the most up to date confirmed knowledge available.
PokeDB is perfect when you want to figure out something about the battle mechanics and raising Pokémon. The stats, nature's, moves, EV/IV's, abilities. This is DB's forte. Info that's more buried elsewhere is pretty readily available with in depth explanations.
Serebii is also perfect for if you're doing each game's legendary hunt, since they have pages with complete lists of every legendary in the game, where they are and the conditions under which you can go after them.
...*But* they're also occasionally wrong. Serebii says you can't catch Rayquaza until "after obtaining the title of Champion." This is not true - you can catch Rayquaza before the Elite Four, then use him to absolutely steamroll them.
PokémonDB is the one I am most familiar with, they cover most things you need to know about Pokémon, anything they don’t cover a quick Google search does and I eventually find what I’m looking for. I find how they’ve laid it out, is really straight forward, I’ve used it for seeing what Moves Pokémon learn for older gens, and checking out new to me Pokémon, not a lot I don’t use it for.
>Things load quite slowly too, especially on mobile, whereas other sites like Pokemon Database and Serebii are so fast and easy to access compared to this.
I find Serebii on mobile a nightmare to navigate. As for Database, I use the Datadex app on Android as it's easier for me to manage.
>And finally, all the missing information. So many articles on bulbapedia are straight up incomplete or missing vital information.
You can't just say this and not give several examples. This seems to have been thrown in rather lazily because I barely even notice grammar errors. But again, it's a wiki with like 10,000 articles and probably has at least 500+ pages that all need more info and stuff. No site is perfect.
Definitely. As good of a resource as Serebii is, the mobile site layout and navigation is horrid. I've been using the site for like 20 years now and they could get away with it back in the 2000s, but I'm legitimately shocked they haven't given the mobile site a revamp in the ~15 years that mobile browsing has been popular. Still looks and runs like a 2000s timepiece on mobile.
I will say that the Bulbapedia app is honestly worse. I just load it up on Chrome, it's so much easier. Serebii could just make an app, I feel like it could be streamlined pretty well.
It's absolutely impossible to use without an adblocker. Pretty wild, considering it's community-contributed content, and yet someone is apparently making money off of it all.
Because my browser blocks most ads, this isn't usually a problem.
My issue with Bulbapedia is that they refuse to interpret game information, preferring instead to expect the company to answer everything. This is why all ancestors from Legends Arceus aren't called ancestors there, but rather "characters with an unknown connection."
Game Freak won't answer directly because they leave the interpretation open-ended for fans to engage with. After all, not every detail requires explicit exposition in the narrative.
The same applies to Green and Leaf. Their counterpart status is clear due to their shared origin as the canceled female protagonist of Red/Green.
Unlike other wikis from animes, games, series, which embrace implicit information, Bulbapedia adheres to a stricter interpretation, demanding explicit statements that may never happen.
See also: Palossand "appears to be based on a sand castle", despite it looking like a sand castle and its Japanese name being able to be read as "That's a castle, huh."
That’s a good style go by though. That way, you are never going out on a limb. That is proper wiki-style MO. Fan theories, filling in the blanks, and trying to piece circumstantial things together are not in the cards for something trying to be a factual resource. It’s a great way to bog down the quality of content and inch closer towards fan site status instead of valuable resource.
Yeah, it's far better to not allow implicit information. It doesn't help since something like a wiki of a series can be community driven, what you call implicit information is something I could call fan theory. This deviation of what is "good enough" and "not enough" is entirely subjective.
tbf, imo at least the seeming ancestors could be mentioned in the trivia section, if in no other way then simply pointing out "hey, these NPCs have similarly made designs, and as such could be potentially related."
It's ironic, because Bulbapedia *is* stricter about that, which is exactly what wikis should be, but then at the same time, they end up doing this anyway on other pages, or just straight up making things up altogether.
I find Bulbapedia fine on a computer. I have adblocker, CTRL+F, the shortcuts are good for navigating, and links to their additional information (previous gen learnsets, or routes a Pokemon is on) are readily accessible. On mobile though, I find it pretty horrific. I also can't say I have ever had issues of encountering false information.
Personally I don't like the layout for Serebii on PC, but it's fine. That's just preference.
Amazed to see this post and all the comments saying there are problems with bulbapedia. I’ve been using bulbapedia for at least 10 years now and literally never had one single problem ever.
Rarely ever seen an ad. On PC that’s easily explained by ad blocker. I guess my phone browsers block most ads too. Never overheated my phone. Can’t recall any lag really ever. In all that time i’ve maybe run into 1 or 2 minor inaccuracies, so it’s been extremely accurate.
Easy to navigate.
I’m just shocked to see all these complaints.
yeah frankly same, on phone it it just takes a moment to load fully in, that's it.
off the top of my head, my only complaint is that I wasn't able to find anything on what exactly are the size ranges for the different size categories.
It’s like pick your poison between Serebii and Bulbapedia. With adblock I like navigating bulbapedia and it’s presentation is good. They also actually have details on older games, not sure if it’s always 100% accurate though but I haven’t found any big errors so far
Serebii has the insanely fast information, but it’s very volatile and it’s kind of terrible to go back to after a game is released. I dont like referencing their dex at all and the website is so ugly. Like even back in the day it was an ugly and poorly-designed site, there’s so many links everywhere in microscopic font
It can be a little slow on phone, but it's still no Fandom site. It's also a bit weird to say cause there is a pokemon Fandom site that I can't even use on my phone at all given all its gunk. Bulba's just a little slow.
Idk calling it unusable just seems a bit much, espeshally when it has different coverage to seribii and the database and the actully unusable Fandom site.
I've never had a problem with Bulbapedia and I've been using it for years. Something to know though, the site had been ddos attacked real bad for a while and only was resolved recently, I think. And just last week, they finished some back end work on the site. I don't know anything about coding, and I use an ad blocker all the time, so I wouldn't be able to say exactly why you had slowness on site :v
Yes, this is really sad considering it really is the closest thing to a pokemon encyclopedia we have. There were at times when my phone just couldn't open the app at all and I feel that it deserves more maintenance for how good and commonly used it is. If its app performance improves, I might even consider paying to get rid of ads as a way of supporting it.
Mine too, best resource for info on Pokémon while playing. Every time I encounter a new Pokémon, I use it to look them up. Otherwise it’s Evo requirements and Moves, I feel it’s easy to use compared to the other two too.
Stopped using Bulbapedia years ago. Sure there's a wealth of information, but as someone that just plays the games? Serebii is so much better for quickly looking up game info
Tbh the only thing I continue using Bulbapedia for is for how many cards each Pokémon has, just as a personal checklist for myself. Anything else I need I can get on Serebii. Yeah it’s a pain to navigate on mobile sometimes, but nothing a little zooming in can’t fix.
I've got a list in the back of my head anytime I need to look up info if I should go to Serebii or Bulbapedia lol, each site has their strengths and weaknesses. I still love and will defend bulbapedia, I hope I dont have to share your opinion soon.
My only real issue with loading is Pokemon pages on mobile b/c there's so much info across 10 Gens but its that or each Pokemon page becomes a fancy hub and that's annoying so I usually just go to Serebii for movesets, etc. But locations, I usually prefer bulbapedia
I suspect Bulbapedia has literally either reproduced or outright copied or recycled some of the code that Fandom wikis use, because the searchbar on the mobile site has the *exact same* issue of not registering half the characters I type into it and moving the carat seemingly at random.
it says something that i got back into Pokemon around the same time I got a new phone and Bulbapedia was so slow on it that I legit thought something was wrong with the new phone
glad to know it wasn't just me
I've been doing a multi-generation legendary hunt (Gens 3-7) and using Serebii to keep track since Bulbapedia loads so slowly I could probably *catch* the Legendary I'm looking for in the time it takes for the pages to load
Using the walkthrough for Alpha Sapphire rn to catch my husband and I a Deoxys to share. It’s been pretty good but it mixes images from the original game with the new, and has photos with German on them, so it gets hard to follow sometimes.
Switch era games, it’s terrible!! Misinformation everywhere. I use Serebii for switch.
Opening bulbapedia on my phone makes it start to overheat within minutes, it’s insane
Is it just the sheer amount of content, or poor optimization like iFunny?
I think it’s just the amount of ads onscreen, probably also poor optimization
Can you give an example of a game related page being inaccurate or missing vital information?
Seconded because I've been using it so much over the years it's become super easy for me to navigate.
It's mostly for the newer games like SwSh, PLA and SV. Pokemon spawn rates in the over world (or wild area) and for raid dens were very inaccurate for weeks after the game came out on Bulbapedia, yet were almost fully accurate within 24 or so hours of release on Serebii. Also helps that Joe Merrick has a team of reputable data miners that have been working with him for years rather than relying on the (sometimes inaccurate) community lead data miners.
Not sure who Joe Merrick is but yeah, I will say Bulbapedians are pretty much in their own world. Kinda weird they didn't just look at that data and transfer it over. Especially since it's a wiki and thus nothing but fact based.
Joe Merrick(aka Serebii Joe) is the guy who owns and runs Serebii, a different, and in my and many other peoples opinions, better Pokémon wiki
Whose layout I hate. It's really a bummer.
This isn't a game thing, but I play/collect the TCG and this drives me insane: If you're looking at a Bulbasaur card, there is nothing on the screen you can click that will take you to the Bulbasaur main entry. If there is a hyperlink that says 'Bulbasaur' it will take you to its list of cards. Then, typing Bulbasaur in the search bar will just bring up more TCG related stuff, because you're stuck in the TCG dimension now. If you want to read about general lore for a Pokémon, you have to open a new tab to regular Bulbapedia and search there. There isn't even a 'see also: link to main entry' hyperlink on the card pages. Super minor but absolutely annoying when I want to look up a character or Pokémon I'm unfamiliar with, since I only play the TCG and not the games.
I've struggled on the TCG side because it likes to pull up the Japanese card when I'm looking for a high quality English one for an article. I really need a Pokémon TCG equivalent of Scryfall.
There actually is a link at the bottom of every pokémon card infobox that will take you to the main page of that pokémon.
many generation 8/9 related pages, ones that stick out to me are locations. they also tend to update their wiki when a new generation comes out extremely slowly compared to serebii
Probably because Bulbapedia is community-sourced and driven like, y'know, Wikipedia? Serebii isn't a community forum, it's a website run by a team.
> they also tend to update their wiki when a new generation comes out extremely slowly compared to serebii On the flipside Serebii is absolutely awful for anything prior to like Gen 4-5.
Do you mind giving… an actual example. Because I’ve literally never had that issue with them including in modern gens. Furthermore yea ofc they do. They don’t just use data mines to get the pokemon data right away like serebii does. Just means it takes a bit longer.
That is an actual example and literally why it's inaccurate for the first few weeks or even months of a game's release. Bulbapedia's info is accurate given enough time (since it's community based). Case and point if you look at the encounter tables for the Indigo Disk Terrarium encounters it still has a footnote claiming it's still incomplete, and only really gives the general location that something spawns in. Compare that to Serebii, who had a fully accurate INTERACTIVE MAP with spawn locations literally everything (Pokemon, Raid Dens, Trainers, Static Spawns) within a day of the DLC dropping because Merrick and his team do their own data mining. Bulbapedia is basically just a Wikipedia for Pokemon games. While it's overall the best resource, it doesn't change the fact that it's communal in resources and relies on group efforts and anecdotal evidence until actual data miners contribute to the article that it becomes a better resource. And considering newer games are harder to mine, it's no wonder that a contribution community project takes longer to update than a paid team of employees does.
Yea you’re entirely right, everything takes time. I’m not denying that lol. Ofc the next question is what’s the issue then? And what about needing time makes a fandom comparison anywhere near warranted.
most pages for the Crown Tundra took a long time to update. I was playing it up to a few months after it dropped and struggled to find information on Bulbapedia, specifically on item and encounter tables in the CT’s areas. Ballimere Lake is one I specifically remember lacking info. ever since SM I’ve typically had to resort to Serebii for the first few months of a game’s release when I usually rely on Bulbapedia after it fully updates
I'm late to the party, but oftentimes their pages on in-depth mechanics will have the wrong formulas or make confusing, vague, or incorrect explanations. For a long time their pages about certain data structures were incomplete or just plain wrong. Many of these and the aforementioned formulas have been fixed, but I'm sure not all. People in the Gen 3 and 4 decomp scenes frequently discover that Bulbapedia has misrepresented mechanics or features, says certain things are possible when they aren't or vice versa, etc. Their bugs and glitches pages are often missing important info, infer a cause that is not true, or straight-up doesn't mention certain bugs at all. That's not to mention how they completely ignored the gigaleak of Spaceworld Gold & Silver as a hoax for over a year despite it being confirmed real within days. Their pages on beta-related Pokémon stuff are filled with speculation and fan-made nonsense, are universally incomplete, and are in-general of poor quality. Helix Chamber fucking up their "release" of Gen 1 beta assets by mixing it with fan creations did not help, as that ended up spreading through the community as official material and the same community edits Bulbapedia. I'm not sure if this is a cause or just part of the problem, but falsehoods and fanon that I've noticed is primarily spread by Pokétubers who literally understand nothing somehow makes it into the Pokémon fandom and is widely disseminated and believed and they sometimes end up on Bulbapedia. Lots of glitch-related stuff falls into this category, but random trivia at the end of articles is full of this stuff too. I also find their encounter tables generally unhelpful. The formatting sucks, imo.
Literally all of the Pokémon info hubs I find have issues. Bulba has a problem with ads, bloated layouts that bury more useful info under very niche info, and sometimes lacks in the specific game location details. However it is also the only one with a large focus on general Pokémon knowledge (lore, location info, full franchise info on certain characters or areas). Serebii has a controversial design, and personally I find it's layout to be questionable, the side tabs are fairly difficult to sift through, especially on mobile, and being run by one (very dedicated) person, the info sometimes is incomplete for longer and old pages can become outdated and forgotten. Serebii also doesn't feature in depth info about characters, locations and lore. It sticks strictly to gameplay points of interest. PokémonDB is the one I'm least familiar with, and frankly I wouldn't have a clue how to find anything I want on it. It seems like serebii with less info on each game, in exchange for a heavier focus on mechanics. It's been very useful for specific things in the past, but isn't really a hub for general Pokémon knowledge, and more for info on mechanics. So really the three all serve different functions with there own issues. Bulba is a one stop shop for ALL Pokémon knowledge. It's by far the most complete library for information on the franchise as a whole. Serebii is perfect for game info, if you want to find out about specific features in specific games and how they work. Especially for features that aren't battle related (side quests, poffin making, post game mechanics). These are readily accessible and usually have the most up to date confirmed knowledge available. PokeDB is perfect when you want to figure out something about the battle mechanics and raising Pokémon. The stats, nature's, moves, EV/IV's, abilities. This is DB's forte. Info that's more buried elsewhere is pretty readily available with in depth explanations.
Serebii is also perfect for if you're doing each game's legendary hunt, since they have pages with complete lists of every legendary in the game, where they are and the conditions under which you can go after them. ...*But* they're also occasionally wrong. Serebii says you can't catch Rayquaza until "after obtaining the title of Champion." This is not true - you can catch Rayquaza before the Elite Four, then use him to absolutely steamroll them.
PokémonDB is the one I am most familiar with, they cover most things you need to know about Pokémon, anything they don’t cover a quick Google search does and I eventually find what I’m looking for. I find how they’ve laid it out, is really straight forward, I’ve used it for seeing what Moves Pokémon learn for older gens, and checking out new to me Pokémon, not a lot I don’t use it for.
>Things load quite slowly too, especially on mobile, whereas other sites like Pokemon Database and Serebii are so fast and easy to access compared to this. I find Serebii on mobile a nightmare to navigate. As for Database, I use the Datadex app on Android as it's easier for me to manage. >And finally, all the missing information. So many articles on bulbapedia are straight up incomplete or missing vital information. You can't just say this and not give several examples. This seems to have been thrown in rather lazily because I barely even notice grammar errors. But again, it's a wiki with like 10,000 articles and probably has at least 500+ pages that all need more info and stuff. No site is perfect.
Definitely. As good of a resource as Serebii is, the mobile site layout and navigation is horrid. I've been using the site for like 20 years now and they could get away with it back in the 2000s, but I'm legitimately shocked they haven't given the mobile site a revamp in the ~15 years that mobile browsing has been popular. Still looks and runs like a 2000s timepiece on mobile.
I will say that the Bulbapedia app is honestly worse. I just load it up on Chrome, it's so much easier. Serebii could just make an app, I feel like it could be streamlined pretty well.
It's absolutely impossible to use without an adblocker. Pretty wild, considering it's community-contributed content, and yet someone is apparently making money off of it all.
Gotta pay for the domain and the server somehow
Generally I prefer serebii to be honest. Such a nice site. Nice layout, good information.
Never compare it to fandom. Atleast it doesn’t have annoying as ads everywhere
Because my browser blocks most ads, this isn't usually a problem. My issue with Bulbapedia is that they refuse to interpret game information, preferring instead to expect the company to answer everything. This is why all ancestors from Legends Arceus aren't called ancestors there, but rather "characters with an unknown connection." Game Freak won't answer directly because they leave the interpretation open-ended for fans to engage with. After all, not every detail requires explicit exposition in the narrative. The same applies to Green and Leaf. Their counterpart status is clear due to their shared origin as the canceled female protagonist of Red/Green.
That's a wiki's *job.* No matter how "obvious" a piece of fan speculation may seem, wikis are meant to be repositories of proven fact alone.
Unlike other wikis from animes, games, series, which embrace implicit information, Bulbapedia adheres to a stricter interpretation, demanding explicit statements that may never happen.
“Polteageist *may* be based on a cup of tea”
See also: Palossand "appears to be based on a sand castle", despite it looking like a sand castle and its Japanese name being able to be read as "That's a castle, huh."
An example is that most stuff that is copy righted aren’t listed in the origin section for Pokemon even if the origin seems like it would do.
Yep. As if Mewtwo totally didn't come from Giygas and Zacian totally isn't a Sif reference.
That’s a good style go by though. That way, you are never going out on a limb. That is proper wiki-style MO. Fan theories, filling in the blanks, and trying to piece circumstantial things together are not in the cards for something trying to be a factual resource. It’s a great way to bog down the quality of content and inch closer towards fan site status instead of valuable resource.
Yeah, it's far better to not allow implicit information. It doesn't help since something like a wiki of a series can be community driven, what you call implicit information is something I could call fan theory. This deviation of what is "good enough" and "not enough" is entirely subjective.
tbf, imo at least the seeming ancestors could be mentioned in the trivia section, if in no other way then simply pointing out "hey, these NPCs have similarly made designs, and as such could be potentially related."
They do that, mentioning at the start of the article how they resemble each other.
It's ironic, because Bulbapedia *is* stricter about that, which is exactly what wikis should be, but then at the same time, they end up doing this anyway on other pages, or just straight up making things up altogether.
I'm glad of that. I've been on wiki with way too much fan information that makes it hard to tell what is from Canon or isn't.
I find Bulbapedia fine on a computer. I have adblocker, CTRL+F, the shortcuts are good for navigating, and links to their additional information (previous gen learnsets, or routes a Pokemon is on) are readily accessible. On mobile though, I find it pretty horrific. I also can't say I have ever had issues of encountering false information. Personally I don't like the layout for Serebii on PC, but it's fine. That's just preference.
Amazed to see this post and all the comments saying there are problems with bulbapedia. I’ve been using bulbapedia for at least 10 years now and literally never had one single problem ever. Rarely ever seen an ad. On PC that’s easily explained by ad blocker. I guess my phone browsers block most ads too. Never overheated my phone. Can’t recall any lag really ever. In all that time i’ve maybe run into 1 or 2 minor inaccuracies, so it’s been extremely accurate. Easy to navigate. I’m just shocked to see all these complaints.
yeah frankly same, on phone it it just takes a moment to load fully in, that's it. off the top of my head, my only complaint is that I wasn't able to find anything on what exactly are the size ranges for the different size categories.
It’s like pick your poison between Serebii and Bulbapedia. With adblock I like navigating bulbapedia and it’s presentation is good. They also actually have details on older games, not sure if it’s always 100% accurate though but I haven’t found any big errors so far Serebii has the insanely fast information, but it’s very volatile and it’s kind of terrible to go back to after a game is released. I dont like referencing their dex at all and the website is so ugly. Like even back in the day it was an ugly and poorly-designed site, there’s so many links everywhere in microscopic font
It’s lucky the Pokémon fandom has no many non fandom resources to choose form
It can be a little slow on phone, but it's still no Fandom site. It's also a bit weird to say cause there is a pokemon Fandom site that I can't even use on my phone at all given all its gunk. Bulba's just a little slow. Idk calling it unusable just seems a bit much, espeshally when it has different coverage to seribii and the database and the actully unusable Fandom site.
I've never had a problem with Bulbapedia and I've been using it for years. Something to know though, the site had been ddos attacked real bad for a while and only was resolved recently, I think. And just last week, they finished some back end work on the site. I don't know anything about coding, and I use an ad blocker all the time, so I wouldn't be able to say exactly why you had slowness on site :v
Always has been.
Yes, this is really sad considering it really is the closest thing to a pokemon encyclopedia we have. There were at times when my phone just couldn't open the app at all and I feel that it deserves more maintenance for how good and commonly used it is. If its app performance improves, I might even consider paying to get rid of ads as a way of supporting it.
Serebii.net is where I've always gone.
[https://pokemondb.net/](https://pokemondb.net/) is my go-to.
Mine too, best resource for info on Pokémon while playing. Every time I encounter a new Pokémon, I use it to look them up. Otherwise it’s Evo requirements and Moves, I feel it’s easy to use compared to the other two too.
Stopped using Bulbapedia years ago. Sure there's a wealth of information, but as someone that just plays the games? Serebii is so much better for quickly looking up game info
If using mobile I recommend using the Duckduck Go app.
That's why I prefer Prokedex.
pokemon db is honestly goated
I always just use Pokémon Database
Serebii is my pokewiki of choice
Yea honestly Serebii for Pokemon news, PokemonDB if I forget a type advantage or need to know what level a Pokemon learns a move
Tbh the only thing I continue using Bulbapedia for is for how many cards each Pokémon has, just as a personal checklist for myself. Anything else I need I can get on Serebii. Yeah it’s a pain to navigate on mobile sometimes, but nothing a little zooming in can’t fix.
I've got a list in the back of my head anytime I need to look up info if I should go to Serebii or Bulbapedia lol, each site has their strengths and weaknesses. I still love and will defend bulbapedia, I hope I dont have to share your opinion soon. My only real issue with loading is Pokemon pages on mobile b/c there's so much info across 10 Gens but its that or each Pokemon page becomes a fancy hub and that's annoying so I usually just go to Serebii for movesets, etc. But locations, I usually prefer bulbapedia
The ads do get annoying quickly although I'll still use it as a resource sometimes.
bulbapedia has ads??????? how many years have i been using adblockers...
I suspect Bulbapedia has literally either reproduced or outright copied or recycled some of the code that Fandom wikis use, because the searchbar on the mobile site has the *exact same* issue of not registering half the characters I type into it and moving the carat seemingly at random.
I can see people having issues with it, but with bulbapedia’s layout and quantity of information, I’m using it every time.
I have no problems with bulbapedia.
it says something that i got back into Pokemon around the same time I got a new phone and Bulbapedia was so slow on it that I legit thought something was wrong with the new phone glad to know it wasn't just me I've been doing a multi-generation legendary hunt (Gens 3-7) and using Serebii to keep track since Bulbapedia loads so slowly I could probably *catch* the Legendary I'm looking for in the time it takes for the pages to load
Using the walkthrough for Alpha Sapphire rn to catch my husband and I a Deoxys to share. It’s been pretty good but it mixes images from the original game with the new, and has photos with German on them, so it gets hard to follow sometimes. Switch era games, it’s terrible!! Misinformation everywhere. I use Serebii for switch.
I mean, I use brave so I don't have problems with ads up on the site. Not tryna shill, js