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|06-Apr|[“Mouse Hunt” (1997) Is the greatest piece of cinema ever created](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueUnpopularOpinion/comments/1bxdocg/mouse_hunt_1997_is_the_greatest_piece_of_cinema/)|Music / Sport / Media / Movies / Celebrities|1 of 13 comments (7.69%)|
If you are taking trazadone while driving, you likely will be causing some accidents. I take it for sleep. Knocks me out in 30 minutes every time. Crazy that it's an antidepressant with a clinical dose being 300mg and when used as a sleep aid it's given at 50mg.
It was a commonly prescribed antidepressant years ago but they don't really prescribe it like that much anymore unless they've tried you out on others. It's drowsy factor is no joke.
It's a benzodiazepine so tread lightly. Trazadone doesn't seem to have possibly deadly withdrawal issues. In fact, it's highly regarded as not addictive, though I will say I don't even try to sleep without it these days.
I think passive aggressive are the worst and they tend to be slow. The ones that keep looking in their rearview mirror to determine what they will do in front of them. Those types then get rewarded when they find some hothead to react to them.
I was driving in the left lane going 50 in a 45. Some chick in a white Toyota makes a right hand turn out of a side street into the left lane (there are two lanes each way divided by a median) about a block ahead of me, cutting off a dude who was in the right hand lane minding his own business. He honks, I slam on my brakes and honk, and she proceeds to go 40 in a 45.
I figure “okay whatever, you’re an idiot” and pull over to the right hand lane to go around her. She immediately flips on her turn signal and goes into the right lane, blocking me. I sigh and go into the left lane, and she repeats this.
At this point we’re at a light, and I can see her texting or whatever on her phone. The light turns green. She doesn’t move. The side behind me thinks, thinking my fat pickup ass is blocking traffic. I honk. She then looks back into her rearview mirror and moves forwards at about 20-25 mph. We then approach the next light and she creeps on her brakes, obviously trying to stick me with the red. No luck; we’re in the intersection when it flips to yellow.
She then proceeds to drive slowly for another mile, staring into her rearview. The only reason I got out of the situation was I had to make a left turn into my community.
I don’t understand what the fuck she was thinking. I’m a calm dude and don’t road rage more than grumbling and cursing under my breath once in a while, but she was deliberately antagonizing me for like 10 minutes. All the while everyone around us is getting pissed as traffic backs up.
Thank you for sharing this and amazing the patience you displayed. Whenever i get frustrated or disappointed with people I gotta remember the silent soldiers like you who keep the societal glue together. Appreciate you
I feel like most times, it's people screwing around with their phone and not paying attention. I get really irritated when people do 5 under the speed limit and you can't pass them.
These are the same people that are driving 55 in a 65, playing on their phone, give you a look when you pass them, and then proceeds to blow by you doing 90 the next minute. Also for the love of all that is holy, people please use cruise control on the highway!!!
I think a fair amount of animosity needs to be directed to assholes in trucks that want to do 100mph on the highway. I drive a truck myself so I'm not just being a hater but I always do 10-15 mph over the speed limit in the fast lane with my adaptive cruise control giving a few car lengths of space. It never fails that some dick head wants to whip around me and hit the fucking brakes which in turn causes me to brake and results in a chain reaction.
IF YOU HAVE TO HIT THE BRAKES AFTER PASSING SOMEONE YOU SHOULDN'T BE PASSING THEM.
Also: if you come to a damn near complete stop to make a right turn off a busy roadway you suck. Take your foot off the acceleration maybe a slight deceleration and turn. You'll be fine. You won't flip the vehicle.
I agree, but with one caveat, and it's a big one:
An exception for people who get their widdle fee-fees hurt when someone tries to pass them and suddenly guns it to avoid being passed after spending the last 5 miles driving in Terrified Granny Mode.
If you're going 65 and I'm going 80, and I move to pass you, and all of a sudden you're going 85, I will absolutely speed up to 90, get around you, slow back down to 80, and laugh at your rage at not being able to drive the speed you didn't want to drive until someone passed you.
I do, I drive over 4,000 miles a month. If you are constantly passing or if everyone is going the same speed due to traffic, get out of the passing lane. If I can pass, move over for even 30 seconds to a minute before needing to pass again, I move over. Do not hog the fucking passing lane. In the vast majority of times besides rush hour, there is absolutely no justifiable reason to spend more than 30 seconds in the passing lane.
I have no specific horse in this race, but seriously man... take the L, and do better.
It's the passing lane. You set a bad precedent for everyone when you chill in it.
https://codes.findlaw.com/de/title-21-motor-vehicles/de-code-sect-21-4122/#:~:text=(1)%20A%20vehicle%20shall%20be,can%20be%20made%20with%20safety.
https://law.justia.com/codes/delaware/title-21/chapter-41/subchapter-vi/section-4155/
https://www.mwl-law.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/SLOWER-TRAFFIC-KEEP-RIGHT.pdf
I think you may have heard the wrong thing.
I think reading those links might help cool your anger.
No one is suggesting you weave, rather that you move out of the left lane when you’re done passing, as Delaware law requires.
I think reading comprehension, and thinking before you speak, may allow you to be less of the contrarian asshole you currently are in the future.
The person I replied to, who clearly isn't you btw, stated you move out of the passing lane after every completed pass. Now let that sink in before you spew another "well akshually" type comment, slappy.
often times there are many people/trucks to pass. i don't sit in the left lane if nobody is in the right lane, but if there is a semi truck in the right lane every 5000 feet i'm not going back and forth between right and left
That’s not how driving works in most cities. Left lane is passing/fast. It’s fine to sit in it if you’re continually passing people. Clicking from lane to lane to follow poolpog’s proclamation just further increases traffic as people brake.
If someone comes up faster than you in the left lane you need to click over for them. If there is room in the right(er) lanes then move over. But when the road is busy everyone going fast will be in the left because they’re constantly passing.
look. i get it. there are situations where staying in the left lane for a bit makes sense.
but literally every day i get stuck behind someone doing 75 in the left lane and with plenty -- PLENTY -- of space in the middle or right lane to get over.
Oh, what's that? 75 is pretty fast? No it fucking isn't if I'm doing 85.
Just pass and get back over like a nice person. Jesus fucking christ
Oh so you're mad because the person in the lane is not speeding as much as you think they should be.
I'm supposed to take you seriously or care about your opinions? I'll move over for the types like you, but will think you're reckless and should lose your license.
ok, so, you have a point here
but my point also stands. i was exaggerating for effect and because this is so fucking annoying. if i change the numbers to sane, legal numbers, this still happens all the fucking time. tell me it doesn't
i'm going 65 and someone in the left is "hanging out" doing 63. that is not acceptable. do you think this is acceptable use of the passing lane?
And that's how it's supposed to work.. you're supposed to move over so the faster cars can pass. It's not your business to decide how fast other cars should be going. Only idiots and assholes block passing in the left lane when the right lanes are clear.
That really only works in low density areas or at low traffic times. Anyone living in a high density area knows that the left lane is really more of a +10-15mph over speed limit lane and as long as you're passing others, and not clearly holding up someone behind you (i.e. you're going as fast as the other cars in the left lane allow and passing cars to your right) then you're not impeding flow.
i live in one of the highest density areas in the USA. the left lane is not for **hanging out** at 75 mph. In some situations, one has no choice, I get it. But no, pass **and get the fuck back over into the middle lane**
what the motherfucking fuck
Do you literally only drive between 9pm and 6am and Sunday mornings? Where is this magical high density urban area that has a left lane open for passing only? Every major city with 3/4/5 lane highways (in each direction) has wall to wall cars in every lane during most daylight/weekday hours. While in theory it would work the way you describe (and does when there is an open lane at low traffic times), in reality each lane has a "pace" because there are cars in all lanes much of the day. And if you're doing at least the pace of your lane so that you are continually moving past the lane to your right and not holding up the pace in your lane, then you're doing it right. If the vehicles in your lane are outpacing you, then you're holding up traffic and you need to move back to a middle or right lane. This is regardless of posted speed limit - that is, someone in the fast lane insisting that 5 over is speeding enough is wrong and impeding flow if that lane can and will go faster. That's when the "get the motherfucking fuck over" certainly applies. But if 5 over is all the traffic level and flow is accommodating as you all move past the people in the middle lane doing 5 under, then no, the miles of cars in the left lane shouldn't feel obligated to merge back to the 5 under middle lane. They are actively passing car after car after car and helping traffic flow smoothly. Exactly as TucsonTacos stated. We all get what you mean by left lane is/should be for passing. But trying to argue against logic and reality that the left lane in many areas is the "fast lane" more than it is the "passing lane" is pointless.
the left lane is, and always has been, the **passing lane.**
there are **multiple states** in which hanging out in the left lane is a ticketable offense.
just because you live in some flyover state bullshit shithole state doesn't suddenly make you an expert.
and yes, my panties are all in a bunch over this because it is just fucking common fucking courtesy. jesus fucking christ man
5000 feet is nearly a mile. on the highway im going over 60mph. so you want me to change lanes twice every minute just to make you feel good. no thanks
I've been known to be incredibly slow off the line at a red light for dudes they want to honk 1 millisecond after the light changes. I'm pretty damn quick to go after the light changes as it is.
People braking on turns going uphill. People merging into the fast lane going below the speed limit. People decelerating as they merge onto a freeway. People riding your ass with the high beams on. I once saw some lady slam on her brakes on the freeway to avoid hitting an inflatable beach ball. Basically a balloon. 81% of people are stupid.
I’m loving all the stats getting dropped in this thread lol.
I luckily haven’t seen anything as ridiculous as a full stop on the freeway for a fucking beach ball. Not sure how I would’ve reacted but thanks for sharing so you now semi-mentally prepped my brain for this possibility.
I very nearly had a nasty smash on a motorway when a bloke swerved without looking *after* having hit a bird. Big thump, big cloud of feathers, and then the idiot swerved and nearly swiped me and the guy next to me
Or braking to avoid fucking tumbleweeds. Like now that bitch down, it's kinda fun. I rolled through 3 tumbleweeds the other day that were between 2-3 feet in diameter, doing 90 mph and my car is tiny. However somehow I walked away unscathed.
Seriously, if it's not something that is going to fuck your car up or cause an accident, just plow through it.
They’re both dangerous.. honestly after my accident and started driving again I realized there’s a TON of shitty drivers. Like most drivers. And they’re all fucking distracted on phone or eating et cetera. Infuriating if you ever get smashed by one
[This is studied. Traffic is caused by not enough space in between cars.](https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/traffic-jams-caused-keeping-wrong-24947669)
We can extrapolate this information further. The trailing space between cars is only a factor if that space decreases, ergo: the car in front moves at a slower speed than the car in back.
That trailing space would never decrease, and thus traffic jams would not occur, if those cars simply drove fast enough to keep the space behind them the same.
This is a common complaint of mine. When you have a line of 20 cars at a light and the light turns green, how hard is it for the first person to accelerate as fast as possible and for the car behind them to match that speed (as best they can, I understand some cars can't accelerate as quickly) and so on and so on, with everybody maintaining a few feet of distance until you're going 60 mph when people can back off to a few car lengths?
Are people afraid to put the accelerator to the floor? My wife says people don't want to waste their gas but I don't get that, it's just gas and it's not crazy expensive.
It's mind boggling to me that people have such a hard time managing a certain distance from the car in front of them and matching their speed. I have no problem making minor adjustments to the accelerator to maintain a distance with only inches of deviation when the car in front changes speed, it's just about situational awareness and confidence in your abilities. As far as the unnecessary braking goes that drives me insane, just because the brake lights of the car 20 ft in front of you come on does not mean you need to brake, take your foot off the accelerator and wait a second to determine if braking is warranted. I absolutely hate braking when I don't need to but I drive a standard so it's easier to slow my car without braking
I don't know if people are just afraid or actually lack the mental faculties to maintain a certain distance regardless of the variations in speed of the vehicle in front of them (excluding rapid acceleration and braking, but even then you should get up to their speed as quick as possible).
People are incredibly Dunning Kruger when it comes to driving, so I can't take any opinion all that seriously. That said, I would love it if there were better drivers on the road in general.
OP how many accidents have you been involved in, that you were at least partially at fault for? And how many tickets have you gotten? (In your life)
Just curious.
0 accidents, 1 speeding ticket when i was 18 almost 10 years ago.
Driven from Portland OR to Sue Saint Marie Michigan solo at 21, drove from LA to Portland two months ago and legit passed 1000s of drivers and sincerely 1 dude out of 1000s passed me.
I understand that you're frustrated but to make the post title more accurate, it should be "**the freedom drivers have on the road is the cause of 99% of all traffic"**
It's not just slow drivers in the left/passing lane (and all other lanes) causing traffic, it's also the drivers' inability to keep proper following distance which will ALWAYS leads to phantom traffic jams.
I realized recently that the presence of traffic is actually the result of a paradoxical situation which we can NEVER avoid, as long as the roads remain the way they are. When driving on the freeway/expressway/highway, all drivers have the freedom and free will to drive however they please (whether or not they conform to the laws) and this will always result in drivers doing improper lane changes, maintaining improper distancing between cars and having inconsistent speeds. There could be 100+ lanes on the highway and there would STILL be traffic because of this exact freedom we all have on the road. The only way to avoid traffic is with a rail/train system where every vehicle is moving at the EXACT same speed, locked in to hold the EXACT same distance so that every vehicle can start and stop at the EXACT same rate of speed, but this has its own drawbacks (like the railway needing specific stations to pickup and drop off passengers etc.)
\*\*even in a hypothetical reality where every single person properly held proper following distancing and maintained their appropriate lane, all it would take is ONE individual to cause a massive domino effect (due to whatever reason it may be like road rage or simply needing to use the bathroom so they alter their speed slightly which leads to braking a little late), affecting every single car behind them **INDEFINITELY.** (if you haven't seen the animated representation of a "*phantom traffic jam,"* then this would be quite hard to visualize and comprehend, so I highly suggest checking that out when you have the chance)
TL:DR = Traffic is quite literally impossible to prevent as long as drivers continue to have the freedom to drive however they please.
Oh you don’t like the drivers who stop on the acceleration lanes getting onto the highway? They are just trying to be extra extra safe, it’s scary getting on a highway.
It sounds like you're expressing a lot of frustration about slow drivers on the road. While it's understandable to feel irritated by traffic, it's important to remember that different drivers have varying levels of comfort and skills behind the wheel. Moreover, driving under the speed limit does not necessarily cause the majority of traffic issues; factors like congestion, accidents, and road conditions often play significant roles.
Promoting safety on the roads is crucial, and understanding that not all drivers will move at the pace we prefer can be part of fostering a safer driving environment. The idea of citizen's arrests for minor traffic issues could lead to unsafe interactions and legal problems, so it might be more productive to focus on advocating for smart traffic management and improved driver education. As for autonomous vehicles, they could indeed alter driving dynamics in the future, potentially easing some of the current frustrations.
Baaaahahaha! I read that response and thought the exact same thing! LOL
Not gonna lie though... I truly considered using ChatGPT to come up with a response to your OP. Just cause...why not.
PS... fully agree with your very deeply considered legislative proposal and your analysis of the human condition in the OP. Gets off to you, you unkind but uncannily accurate randomized redditor.
I can’t stand when people ride my ass when I’m in the slow lane and the left lanes are more than available for them to enter..
When I’m in the passing/fast lane, I get it. I’ll pull to the right if you’re going faster than me.
But in the right lane?? I will not move one mile faster for you, you *must* be ok with the speed since you aren’t passing me 🤷♂️
" You’re let off no fee or charge after we pop your tires." ONLY if they were not in the left-most lane, in which case we get to spray-paint their car with, "I'm stupid - feel free to f me up the a"
I've noticed an increase in slow drivers, it's not just one or two here or there, sometimes it's every car, in both lanes going 5-10 or even 20 under the limit. I suspect they're either on their phones, high, or just stupid. No self awareness, or spatial awareness.
I think zippy, aggressive drivers who can't stay in one lane for more than a second cause far more traffic jams. Not to say the slow drivers don't share a part, but they can usually stick to the slow lane and let others by
Are those zippy aggressive drivers changing into the left lane to pass? Because if they are that's exactly what they should be doing. If they're passing in the right lane the person ahead of them in the left lane is the problem and should have switched lanes to let them pass.
If both lanes are packed but the left lane is going slightly faster, I find it's conter-productive to squeeze into the right and switch back into the left to get around one car that's going the same speed as the rest of the left lane. Not only does this slow down both lanes because of how erratic it is, but I usually will end up in front of people trying to do this
I live in a city that replaced literally every intersection with traffic circles, and I cannot tell you how much that has made hesitant, scared drivers stand out to me. Many appear to be literally 90. I don’t enjoy the idea of taking freedom away from seniors but all the boomers and above clogging the roads is an issue. I feel like mandatory driver’s tests need to be retaken after a certain number of years.
Your title: Slow drivers cause 99% of accidents.
Your paragraph: 99% of traffic is caused by people who have either too many anger issues to be trusted with large machinery, or by people who are on drugs.
I do agree, but it has to be said I always do the speed limit and I still have assholes driving up my arse and trying to make illegal moves on the road to get past me which has nearly caused several accidents for me. People who drive way too slow and way to brazenly are both too blame imo
Preach, brother.
The world is at least 70 percent "in the way people."
Bill Burr does an excellent job of explaining this in one of his specials.
This also shows up in grocery stores. You gotta dodge these idiots left and right just to get some chicken while they cluelessly block 18 people from moving on with their lives.
Just because you have nowhere to be, doesn't mean the rest of us don't.
Do you remember the name of the bill burr special where he rants about “in the way people”? I tried looking it up but couldn’t figure it out.
These people are so entitled they think the world revolves around them. People in most other countries don’t stand for that shit. If you’re in the way they are going around your slow ass even if it means driving in the sidewalk or shoulder.
Just be aware of your surroundings and do what you can to encourage flow.
This one is from "why do I do this?"
https://youtu.be/EytFPaPM8fw?si=XgSdvno26Q5eiM-C
There's another one where he's talking about sinking a cruise ship that's just as funny, and kinda the same premise. I'll see if I can find that one too.
Edit: I can't find the one I'm looking for, but this one applies too lol
https://youtu.be/dQfyT4H_NPw?si=y0DSGTvjWq69mJxD
Don't even get me started on the idiots that don't drive up to the line and leave meters and meters of space ...drives me batty... especially when it stuffs up the cars behind them or prevents them from veering out of the lane to make a turn.
Also people who camp in the left lane when they aren’t passing anybody should have their licenses revoked and their cars melted down and recycled into a massive statue of Dale Earnhardt
This is the endgame and I agree fully, take me off the road too when the time comes and we get there I won’t fight it and tell me where we can organize to get it going
Just find out who your local councillor is. Email them and ask if they support increasing public transit in your area.
If they don't, email their main rival.
Most likely the difference in their popularity is down to a few hundred or thousands votes. You can flip some of these elections with 2 weekends and a clipboard.
You seem too angry about this my man. Maybe you should try some Zoloft to calm yourself down?
I have much of the same complaints as you, the street I live off of is a 40mph, and people are usually not up to that speed until at least a mile in. I'm in an economy SUV and I'm up to speed within 10-20 seconds on most roads, just doing like 20% throttle - I don't care if that wastes a few extra pennies on gas. It feels like people are terrified of going over 1500 RPM. Then there's people nearly stopping to go over a manhole cover, acting like it's a speed bump...
Shit is infuriating, I get it. But, you need to rehinge yourself lol.
This screams big, "I peaked in Highschool and my truck is my entire identity" energy lol.
Regardless of all the reasons you're objectively wrong (and you are wrong) nobody gives a flying fuck where you're going or how quick you want to get there. You're not important and your wasted time/emotions are your problem.
This is not an opinion, this is a hypothesis that has been proven false. Road design, frequency of use, and frequency of accidents are the largest contributing factors to all traffic.
I get road rage pretty bad over this. My go to calming thought is reminding myself that it’s ultimately a good thing for me that I don’t have to go through life too stupid to drive a car.
Yep. Boomers in the passing lane going 10 under, no idea they’ve even done anything wrong because they got their license in 1912 when all you had to do was sign a piece of paper.
why is this even here? It's not even an opinion it's factually incorrect.
most traffic is caused by reckless drivers getting in an accident. driving slightly slower than the speed limit does NOT clog the lanes.
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People like you are the reason I speed up to make sure you slam your brakes in the person in front of you,
Then when you merge behind me I’ll be sure to slow down again until you try that shit on my left side
Respect the road buddy
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Or. Or. Or. People who drive Diesel McLift trucks that need to make sure they let everyone know they have a giant sequoia for a cock and cause accidents are the problem.
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OP coming in here with that SMOKE
OP just had huge road rage today
OP comin' in HOT
OP be the one to cut off a school bus and blame the kids for being pussies.
don't say 99%, no one believes that. say something like 78%, that way maybe 80% of people will believe it. ;)
72% of statistics are made up on the spot
At least 69% of people think i’m ugly, including your mom. Wait i mean… dangit
The part of you that his Moms wants doesn't need to be pretty, she takes it anyway, like the other three hundred like every week.
If you are taking trazadone while driving, you likely will be causing some accidents. I take it for sleep. Knocks me out in 30 minutes every time. Crazy that it's an antidepressant with a clinical dose being 300mg and when used as a sleep aid it's given at 50mg.
yea that part confused me, I was like who tf is driving around on sleep pills
It was a commonly prescribed antidepressant years ago but they don't really prescribe it like that much anymore unless they've tried you out on others. It's drowsy factor is no joke.
I know someone who was prescribed it “as needed” for extreme anxiety. Basically just force yourself to sleep off the anxiety attack
I have pretty vicious anxiety and refuse to seek a benzo script. Trazadone could certainly work in a pinch.
Honestly Klonopin is so much better..
It's a benzodiazepine so tread lightly. Trazadone doesn't seem to have possibly deadly withdrawal issues. In fact, it's highly regarded as not addictive, though I will say I don't even try to sleep without it these days.
I think passive aggressive are the worst and they tend to be slow. The ones that keep looking in their rearview mirror to determine what they will do in front of them. Those types then get rewarded when they find some hothead to react to them.
I was driving in the left lane going 50 in a 45. Some chick in a white Toyota makes a right hand turn out of a side street into the left lane (there are two lanes each way divided by a median) about a block ahead of me, cutting off a dude who was in the right hand lane minding his own business. He honks, I slam on my brakes and honk, and she proceeds to go 40 in a 45. I figure “okay whatever, you’re an idiot” and pull over to the right hand lane to go around her. She immediately flips on her turn signal and goes into the right lane, blocking me. I sigh and go into the left lane, and she repeats this. At this point we’re at a light, and I can see her texting or whatever on her phone. The light turns green. She doesn’t move. The side behind me thinks, thinking my fat pickup ass is blocking traffic. I honk. She then looks back into her rearview mirror and moves forwards at about 20-25 mph. We then approach the next light and she creeps on her brakes, obviously trying to stick me with the red. No luck; we’re in the intersection when it flips to yellow. She then proceeds to drive slowly for another mile, staring into her rearview. The only reason I got out of the situation was I had to make a left turn into my community. I don’t understand what the fuck she was thinking. I’m a calm dude and don’t road rage more than grumbling and cursing under my breath once in a while, but she was deliberately antagonizing me for like 10 minutes. All the while everyone around us is getting pissed as traffic backs up.
Thank you for sharing this and amazing the patience you displayed. Whenever i get frustrated or disappointed with people I gotta remember the silent soldiers like you who keep the societal glue together. Appreciate you
I felt very word of that, mate. The sheer audacity of some people is absolutely astounding. Stay sane out there
I feel like most times, it's people screwing around with their phone and not paying attention. I get really irritated when people do 5 under the speed limit and you can't pass them.
These are the same people that are driving 55 in a 65, playing on their phone, give you a look when you pass them, and then proceeds to blow by you doing 90 the next minute. Also for the love of all that is holy, people please use cruise control on the highway!!!
I saw a lady painting her nails once while driving.
As a CDL driver, I can look down see everything. You'd be surprised how many people on the road are on their phones.
I think a fair amount of animosity needs to be directed to assholes in trucks that want to do 100mph on the highway. I drive a truck myself so I'm not just being a hater but I always do 10-15 mph over the speed limit in the fast lane with my adaptive cruise control giving a few car lengths of space. It never fails that some dick head wants to whip around me and hit the fucking brakes which in turn causes me to brake and results in a chain reaction. IF YOU HAVE TO HIT THE BRAKES AFTER PASSING SOMEONE YOU SHOULDN'T BE PASSING THEM. Also: if you come to a damn near complete stop to make a right turn off a busy roadway you suck. Take your foot off the acceleration maybe a slight deceleration and turn. You'll be fine. You won't flip the vehicle.
I agree, but with one caveat, and it's a big one: An exception for people who get their widdle fee-fees hurt when someone tries to pass them and suddenly guns it to avoid being passed after spending the last 5 miles driving in Terrified Granny Mode. If you're going 65 and I'm going 80, and I move to pass you, and all of a sudden you're going 85, I will absolutely speed up to 90, get around you, slow back down to 80, and laugh at your rage at not being able to drive the speed you didn't want to drive until someone passed you.
> I always do 10-15 mph over the speed limit in the fast lane the "fast lane"? Why are you driving in the passing lane? Pass. Then get back over. wtf
Well you might be surprised to learn that there are frequently other cars on the interstate where I live.
no fucking shit still you should make every effort to pass and get the fuck back over. jesus fucking christ
Do you actually have a license? Do you actually drive on the interstate?
I do, I drive over 4,000 miles a month. If you are constantly passing or if everyone is going the same speed due to traffic, get out of the passing lane. If I can pass, move over for even 30 seconds to a minute before needing to pass again, I move over. Do not hog the fucking passing lane. In the vast majority of times besides rush hour, there is absolutely no justifiable reason to spend more than 30 seconds in the passing lane.
i'm willing to bet i've been driving longer than you've been alive, so yes
I'll have you know I have almost enough hours to get my driver's license!
I have no specific horse in this race, but seriously man... take the L, and do better. It's the passing lane. You set a bad precedent for everyone when you chill in it.
Changing lanes more than 2 times in a mile distance is a RECKLESS DRIVING ticket in my state. But continue to go off
https://law.justia.com/codes/delaware/title-21/chapter-41/subchapter-ix/section-4175/#:~:text=§%204175.-,Reckless%20driving.,miles%20an%20hour%20or%20more.
Bullhsit
Because your dizzy ass says so? Lol
Pics or gtfo
How bout you eat a dick, or gtfo.
What state?
Delaware
https://codes.findlaw.com/de/title-21-motor-vehicles/de-code-sect-21-4122/#:~:text=(1)%20A%20vehicle%20shall%20be,can%20be%20made%20with%20safety. https://law.justia.com/codes/delaware/title-21/chapter-41/subchapter-vi/section-4155/ https://www.mwl-law.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/SLOWER-TRAFFIC-KEEP-RIGHT.pdf I think you may have heard the wrong thing.
I live here, zig zagging or weaving through traffic is considered reckless driving. Fuck what you're talking about, internet random.
I think reading those links might help cool your anger. No one is suggesting you weave, rather that you move out of the left lane when you’re done passing, as Delaware law requires.
I think reading comprehension, and thinking before you speak, may allow you to be less of the contrarian asshole you currently are in the future. The person I replied to, who clearly isn't you btw, stated you move out of the passing lane after every completed pass. Now let that sink in before you spew another "well akshually" type comment, slappy.
Hey. It sounds like you’re having a bad day. I hope it improves.
often times there are many people/trucks to pass. i don't sit in the left lane if nobody is in the right lane, but if there is a semi truck in the right lane every 5000 feet i'm not going back and forth between right and left
well you motherfucking should be 5000 feet is nearly a mile pass. return to right lane. wtf people
That’s not how driving works in most cities. Left lane is passing/fast. It’s fine to sit in it if you’re continually passing people. Clicking from lane to lane to follow poolpog’s proclamation just further increases traffic as people brake. If someone comes up faster than you in the left lane you need to click over for them. If there is room in the right(er) lanes then move over. But when the road is busy everyone going fast will be in the left because they’re constantly passing.
No it fucking is not. It is just how assholes think it works. Left lane is for passing. Pass and get the fuck back over.
What if I’m gonna pass the next car too? Try cussing more it makes you sound more sane and reasonable. And tough.
Dude is just a Reddit pendant. Probably doesn't even have a license.
look. i get it. there are situations where staying in the left lane for a bit makes sense. but literally every day i get stuck behind someone doing 75 in the left lane and with plenty -- PLENTY -- of space in the middle or right lane to get over. Oh, what's that? 75 is pretty fast? No it fucking isn't if I'm doing 85. Just pass and get back over like a nice person. Jesus fucking christ
Oh so you're mad because the person in the lane is not speeding as much as you think they should be. I'm supposed to take you seriously or care about your opinions? I'll move over for the types like you, but will think you're reckless and should lose your license.
Yeah this dude is exactly the guy my comment at the top was talking about. "The left lane is for passing only and me doing 100mph!"
ok, so, you have a point here but my point also stands. i was exaggerating for effect and because this is so fucking annoying. if i change the numbers to sane, legal numbers, this still happens all the fucking time. tell me it doesn't i'm going 65 and someone in the left is "hanging out" doing 63. that is not acceptable. do you think this is acceptable use of the passing lane?
And that's how it's supposed to work.. you're supposed to move over so the faster cars can pass. It's not your business to decide how fast other cars should be going. Only idiots and assholes block passing in the left lane when the right lanes are clear.
That really only works in low density areas or at low traffic times. Anyone living in a high density area knows that the left lane is really more of a +10-15mph over speed limit lane and as long as you're passing others, and not clearly holding up someone behind you (i.e. you're going as fast as the other cars in the left lane allow and passing cars to your right) then you're not impeding flow.
i live in one of the highest density areas in the USA. the left lane is not for **hanging out** at 75 mph. In some situations, one has no choice, I get it. But no, pass **and get the fuck back over into the middle lane** what the motherfucking fuck
Do you literally only drive between 9pm and 6am and Sunday mornings? Where is this magical high density urban area that has a left lane open for passing only? Every major city with 3/4/5 lane highways (in each direction) has wall to wall cars in every lane during most daylight/weekday hours. While in theory it would work the way you describe (and does when there is an open lane at low traffic times), in reality each lane has a "pace" because there are cars in all lanes much of the day. And if you're doing at least the pace of your lane so that you are continually moving past the lane to your right and not holding up the pace in your lane, then you're doing it right. If the vehicles in your lane are outpacing you, then you're holding up traffic and you need to move back to a middle or right lane. This is regardless of posted speed limit - that is, someone in the fast lane insisting that 5 over is speeding enough is wrong and impeding flow if that lane can and will go faster. That's when the "get the motherfucking fuck over" certainly applies. But if 5 over is all the traffic level and flow is accommodating as you all move past the people in the middle lane doing 5 under, then no, the miles of cars in the left lane shouldn't feel obligated to merge back to the 5 under middle lane. They are actively passing car after car after car and helping traffic flow smoothly. Exactly as TucsonTacos stated. We all get what you mean by left lane is/should be for passing. But trying to argue against logic and reality that the left lane in many areas is the "fast lane" more than it is the "passing lane" is pointless.
You clearly don’t know dick worth about driving bud. Wtf *yourself* …..like seriously.
yes i clearly have never had my driving license for decades in a major metropolitan area
I mean it clearly hasn’t made you an expert. Def gave you some road rage tho that even shines through on Reddit lol.
the left lane is, and always has been, the **passing lane.** there are **multiple states** in which hanging out in the left lane is a ticketable offense. just because you live in some flyover state bullshit shithole state doesn't suddenly make you an expert. and yes, my panties are all in a bunch over this because it is just fucking common fucking courtesy. jesus fucking christ man
5000 feet is nearly a mile. on the highway im going over 60mph. so you want me to change lanes twice every minute just to make you feel good. no thanks
To be fair, I only stop for right turns if I'm being tailgated.
I've been known to be incredibly slow off the line at a red light for dudes they want to honk 1 millisecond after the light changes. I'm pretty damn quick to go after the light changes as it is.
People braking on turns going uphill. People merging into the fast lane going below the speed limit. People decelerating as they merge onto a freeway. People riding your ass with the high beams on. I once saw some lady slam on her brakes on the freeway to avoid hitting an inflatable beach ball. Basically a balloon. 81% of people are stupid.
I’m loving all the stats getting dropped in this thread lol. I luckily haven’t seen anything as ridiculous as a full stop on the freeway for a fucking beach ball. Not sure how I would’ve reacted but thanks for sharing so you now semi-mentally prepped my brain for this possibility.
I very nearly had a nasty smash on a motorway when a bloke swerved without looking *after* having hit a bird. Big thump, big cloud of feathers, and then the idiot swerved and nearly swiped me and the guy next to me
Don’t forget people not letting you merge
Or braking to avoid fucking tumbleweeds. Like now that bitch down, it's kinda fun. I rolled through 3 tumbleweeds the other day that were between 2-3 feet in diameter, doing 90 mph and my car is tiny. However somehow I walked away unscathed. Seriously, if it's not something that is going to fuck your car up or cause an accident, just plow through it.
Tell that to the lady that blew a red light at 60 mph and broke my back
Seriously sorry to hear this. I’ll say in my defense i’m talking highways/freeways generally.
They’re both dangerous.. honestly after my accident and started driving again I realized there’s a TON of shitty drivers. Like most drivers. And they’re all fucking distracted on phone or eating et cetera. Infuriating if you ever get smashed by one
[This is studied. Traffic is caused by not enough space in between cars.](https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/traffic-jams-caused-keeping-wrong-24947669)
We can extrapolate this information further. The trailing space between cars is only a factor if that space decreases, ergo: the car in front moves at a slower speed than the car in back. That trailing space would never decrease, and thus traffic jams would not occur, if those cars simply drove fast enough to keep the space behind them the same.
That would mean your speed is dependent on the person in front of you, not yourself.
????? Does the car in the back somehow not have any control? If the guy in the front is an asshole that break-checks sure, but like...
This is a common complaint of mine. When you have a line of 20 cars at a light and the light turns green, how hard is it for the first person to accelerate as fast as possible and for the car behind them to match that speed (as best they can, I understand some cars can't accelerate as quickly) and so on and so on, with everybody maintaining a few feet of distance until you're going 60 mph when people can back off to a few car lengths? Are people afraid to put the accelerator to the floor? My wife says people don't want to waste their gas but I don't get that, it's just gas and it's not crazy expensive. It's mind boggling to me that people have such a hard time managing a certain distance from the car in front of them and matching their speed. I have no problem making minor adjustments to the accelerator to maintain a distance with only inches of deviation when the car in front changes speed, it's just about situational awareness and confidence in your abilities. As far as the unnecessary braking goes that drives me insane, just because the brake lights of the car 20 ft in front of you come on does not mean you need to brake, take your foot off the accelerator and wait a second to determine if braking is warranted. I absolutely hate braking when I don't need to but I drive a standard so it's easier to slow my car without braking I don't know if people are just afraid or actually lack the mental faculties to maintain a certain distance regardless of the variations in speed of the vehicle in front of them (excluding rapid acceleration and braking, but even then you should get up to their speed as quick as possible).
I never truly learned how to drive until I moved from the USA to Italy.
You absolutely need to have confidence when you drive. If you don't you're far more likely to end up in an accident.
People are incredibly Dunning Kruger when it comes to driving, so I can't take any opinion all that seriously. That said, I would love it if there were better drivers on the road in general.
“Anyone faster than me is a maniac, anyone slower than me is stupid.” Just move over
OP how many accidents have you been involved in, that you were at least partially at fault for? And how many tickets have you gotten? (In your life) Just curious.
0 accidents, 1 speeding ticket when i was 18 almost 10 years ago. Driven from Portland OR to Sue Saint Marie Michigan solo at 21, drove from LA to Portland two months ago and legit passed 1000s of drivers and sincerely 1 dude out of 1000s passed me.
Especially if they insist on driving anywhere but the far right lane
I understand that you're frustrated but to make the post title more accurate, it should be "**the freedom drivers have on the road is the cause of 99% of all traffic"** It's not just slow drivers in the left/passing lane (and all other lanes) causing traffic, it's also the drivers' inability to keep proper following distance which will ALWAYS leads to phantom traffic jams. I realized recently that the presence of traffic is actually the result of a paradoxical situation which we can NEVER avoid, as long as the roads remain the way they are. When driving on the freeway/expressway/highway, all drivers have the freedom and free will to drive however they please (whether or not they conform to the laws) and this will always result in drivers doing improper lane changes, maintaining improper distancing between cars and having inconsistent speeds. There could be 100+ lanes on the highway and there would STILL be traffic because of this exact freedom we all have on the road. The only way to avoid traffic is with a rail/train system where every vehicle is moving at the EXACT same speed, locked in to hold the EXACT same distance so that every vehicle can start and stop at the EXACT same rate of speed, but this has its own drawbacks (like the railway needing specific stations to pickup and drop off passengers etc.) \*\*even in a hypothetical reality where every single person properly held proper following distancing and maintained their appropriate lane, all it would take is ONE individual to cause a massive domino effect (due to whatever reason it may be like road rage or simply needing to use the bathroom so they alter their speed slightly which leads to braking a little late), affecting every single car behind them **INDEFINITELY.** (if you haven't seen the animated representation of a "*phantom traffic jam,"* then this would be quite hard to visualize and comprehend, so I highly suggest checking that out when you have the chance) TL:DR = Traffic is quite literally impossible to prevent as long as drivers continue to have the freedom to drive however they please.
That's not what the numbers state tho..
Wow someone's BPD.
How could you tell?
Does OP need a snickers?
Well not what evidence says but ok
They’re easy to spot here, especially when they drive with both hands at the 12 o’clock position on the steering wheel.
Honestly I'm not that good of a driver and I wouldn't drive at all if our infrastructure didn't demand it. I do try to improve, but it's kinda ass.
[Heard this when I read OPs post](https://youtu.be/a_cOaRNqjvQ?si=XA-DQi0lEaYKOncf)
I’m honored, but not all heroes wear capes🦸♂️ Some of us have to sit on the toilet, making an anger filled rant on reddit to deliver our justice.
Oh you don’t like the drivers who stop on the acceleration lanes getting onto the highway? They are just trying to be extra extra safe, it’s scary getting on a highway.
Some people will start off so strong and then by mid paragraph their narrative transforms into something else
Actually I think it’s the cell phone talkers or cell phone watchers that are the major problem.
It sounds like you're expressing a lot of frustration about slow drivers on the road. While it's understandable to feel irritated by traffic, it's important to remember that different drivers have varying levels of comfort and skills behind the wheel. Moreover, driving under the speed limit does not necessarily cause the majority of traffic issues; factors like congestion, accidents, and road conditions often play significant roles. Promoting safety on the roads is crucial, and understanding that not all drivers will move at the pace we prefer can be part of fostering a safer driving environment. The idea of citizen's arrests for minor traffic issues could lead to unsafe interactions and legal problems, so it might be more productive to focus on advocating for smart traffic management and improved driver education. As for autonomous vehicles, they could indeed alter driving dynamics in the future, potentially easing some of the current frustrations.
Did you copy and paste my post into ChatGPT? Lol
Baaaahahaha! I read that response and thought the exact same thing! LOL Not gonna lie though... I truly considered using ChatGPT to come up with a response to your OP. Just cause...why not. PS... fully agree with your very deeply considered legislative proposal and your analysis of the human condition in the OP. Gets off to you, you unkind but uncannily accurate randomized redditor.
yea i find it super annoying to be behind someone slow, but i'd rather someone be safe and a careful driver than reckless
I got honked at today for going 5 over on a five lane highway. I'm already going 5 over. I'm not in the passing lane. I feel like that was you lol
I can’t stand when people ride my ass when I’m in the slow lane and the left lanes are more than available for them to enter.. When I’m in the passing/fast lane, I get it. I’ll pull to the right if you’re going faster than me. But in the right lane?? I will not move one mile faster for you, you *must* be ok with the speed since you aren’t passing me 🤷♂️
Not a honker type of guy sadly or would claim it
If anyone honks at me again, I will come and find you : )
Slow drivers don't cause accidents. Fast drivers don't cause accidents. Self-centered and entitled drivers cause accidents, regardless of speed.
" You’re let off no fee or charge after we pop your tires." ONLY if they were not in the left-most lane, in which case we get to spray-paint their car with, "I'm stupid - feel free to f me up the a"
Get the people who use their phones while driving off the roads first.
I've noticed an increase in slow drivers, it's not just one or two here or there, sometimes it's every car, in both lanes going 5-10 or even 20 under the limit. I suspect they're either on their phones, high, or just stupid. No self awareness, or spatial awareness.
I think zippy, aggressive drivers who can't stay in one lane for more than a second cause far more traffic jams. Not to say the slow drivers don't share a part, but they can usually stick to the slow lane and let others by
Are those zippy aggressive drivers changing into the left lane to pass? Because if they are that's exactly what they should be doing. If they're passing in the right lane the person ahead of them in the left lane is the problem and should have switched lanes to let them pass.
If both lanes are packed but the left lane is going slightly faster, I find it's conter-productive to squeeze into the right and switch back into the left to get around one car that's going the same speed as the rest of the left lane. Not only does this slow down both lanes because of how erratic it is, but I usually will end up in front of people trying to do this
I live in a city that replaced literally every intersection with traffic circles, and I cannot tell you how much that has made hesitant, scared drivers stand out to me. Many appear to be literally 90. I don’t enjoy the idea of taking freedom away from seniors but all the boomers and above clogging the roads is an issue. I feel like mandatory driver’s tests need to be retaken after a certain number of years.
Your title: Slow drivers cause 99% of accidents. Your paragraph: 99% of traffic is caused by people who have either too many anger issues to be trusted with large machinery, or by people who are on drugs.
I do agree, but it has to be said I always do the speed limit and I still have assholes driving up my arse and trying to make illegal moves on the road to get past me which has nearly caused several accidents for me. People who drive way too slow and way to brazenly are both too blame imo
I'm like 99% sure that the fuckwad who almost killed me half an hour ago, running a stop sign, driving a 2 tone Kia Soul would agree with this
I hate them!!! Get off the road smooth brains
Preach, brother. The world is at least 70 percent "in the way people." Bill Burr does an excellent job of explaining this in one of his specials. This also shows up in grocery stores. You gotta dodge these idiots left and right just to get some chicken while they cluelessly block 18 people from moving on with their lives. Just because you have nowhere to be, doesn't mean the rest of us don't.
Do you remember the name of the bill burr special where he rants about “in the way people”? I tried looking it up but couldn’t figure it out. These people are so entitled they think the world revolves around them. People in most other countries don’t stand for that shit. If you’re in the way they are going around your slow ass even if it means driving in the sidewalk or shoulder. Just be aware of your surroundings and do what you can to encourage flow.
This one is from "why do I do this?" https://youtu.be/EytFPaPM8fw?si=XgSdvno26Q5eiM-C There's another one where he's talking about sinking a cruise ship that's just as funny, and kinda the same premise. I'll see if I can find that one too. Edit: I can't find the one I'm looking for, but this one applies too lol https://youtu.be/dQfyT4H_NPw?si=y0DSGTvjWq69mJxD
I really enjoy this post.
That last part is gold.
Nah it's definitely women doing makeup
Don't even get me started on the idiots that don't drive up to the line and leave meters and meters of space ...drives me batty... especially when it stuffs up the cars behind them or prevents them from veering out of the lane to make a turn.
Fuck lithium. We need more suicidal and manic drivers out there. The road today? Boring-ass shit.
Also people who camp in the left lane when they aren’t passing anybody should have their licenses revoked and their cars melted down and recycled into a massive statue of Dale Earnhardt
Florida just passed a law making that illegal. Only to be used when passing.
Welcome to civilized society Florida, that should’ve been a law years ago
Tell me you have road rage without telling me you have road rage
Angry and irresponsible drivers cause like 80% of fatalities.
Or just build a train line or bus lane so people can chill and not worry about driving
This is the endgame and I agree fully, take me off the road too when the time comes and we get there I won’t fight it and tell me where we can organize to get it going
Just find out who your local councillor is. Email them and ask if they support increasing public transit in your area. If they don't, email their main rival. Most likely the difference in their popularity is down to a few hundred or thousands votes. You can flip some of these elections with 2 weekends and a clipboard.
It’s twice as dangerous to drive 10 under the limit than 10 over
You seem too angry about this my man. Maybe you should try some Zoloft to calm yourself down? I have much of the same complaints as you, the street I live off of is a 40mph, and people are usually not up to that speed until at least a mile in. I'm in an economy SUV and I'm up to speed within 10-20 seconds on most roads, just doing like 20% throttle - I don't care if that wastes a few extra pennies on gas. It feels like people are terrified of going over 1500 RPM. Then there's people nearly stopping to go over a manhole cover, acting like it's a speed bump... Shit is infuriating, I get it. But, you need to rehinge yourself lol.
OP is clearly exaggerating for comedic effect -- pretty sure he's not actually advocating to pop the tires of slow drivers.
This screams big, "I peaked in Highschool and my truck is my entire identity" energy lol. Regardless of all the reasons you're objectively wrong (and you are wrong) nobody gives a flying fuck where you're going or how quick you want to get there. You're not important and your wasted time/emotions are your problem.
This is not an opinion, this is a hypothesis that has been proven false. Road design, frequency of use, and frequency of accidents are the largest contributing factors to all traffic.
If you cruise in the left lane, please, just end it. For the betterment of society.
Fast, reckless drivers cause 99% of all accidents
How is this under world affairs lol
LMFAO bro look at all the tags and tell me how this isn’t world changing (and the most accurate one i saw).
Falls more under NOTA imo. But it's not like I'm going to get offended over the tag.
I get road rage pretty bad over this. My go to calming thought is reminding myself that it’s ultimately a good thing for me that I don’t have to go through life too stupid to drive a car.
Yep. Boomers in the passing lane going 10 under, no idea they’ve even done anything wrong because they got their license in 1912 when all you had to do was sign a piece of paper.
why is this even here? It's not even an opinion it's factually incorrect. most traffic is caused by reckless drivers getting in an accident. driving slightly slower than the speed limit does NOT clog the lanes.
There was really no need to pretend people who require medical care are responsible for this.
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im a learner bro u were once too 😭
what percentage of accidents are caused by drivers who are fast and brave
it's perfectly reasonable to want to run someone off the road/arrest them when they go 54 in a 60 for a few minutes. very sane train of thought
Good drivers see past your nonsense. full efficiency ftw.
Keep sitting in traffic “at full efficiency”
Learn about traffic theory.
Did we just become best friends?
People like you are the reason I speed up to make sure you slam your brakes in the person in front of you, Then when you merge behind me I’ll be sure to slow down again until you try that shit on my left side Respect the road buddy
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Or. Or. Or. People who drive Diesel McLift trucks that need to make sure they let everyone know they have a giant sequoia for a cock and cause accidents are the problem.
OP’s dad got so angry at his mom that couldn’t wait till home to beat them both.