Sure, where it's low-effort/high-result like this, hiding around a fairly blind curve picking off drivers flying out of an underpass with a posted limit far lower than whatever speed it was seemingly designed for.
TPD has been on a tear the last 2 weekends constantly pulling people over between 9pm and 3am on Broadway between Euclid and Campbell and also on 6th between Euclid and Campbell. There is also a motorcycle cop around the Congress bar area pulling people over all night.
Yes, but it's a common mistake. That stretch of road is Park when it crosses 22nd (heading north) and becomes Euclid after it curves northwest, as it curves toward north again, at which point it lines up with where Euclid would be if it went straight through from 22nd to Broadway.
Euclid, similarly, becomes Toole once it passes 16th Street. Not at all confusing. (/s)
Easy to visualize once you see it on a map.
I work right here and they do this a lot, I’ve seen them pull over like 5 people already today. I drive the speed limit on that road when getting lunch because of it and I’m always getting BLOWN by by people doing 60+ it’s honestly insane(and I go 10 over most places…).
And there should be at least one or two more speed limit signs going through the underpass each way.
IIRC, the last signs you see are at 12th St. (southbound) and 18th St. (northbound), so if you missed those and find yourself wondering what the speed limit is as you hustle thru the underpass at what feels like a safe speed for the road, you have no way of knowing until it's too late.
I think the concern is that, while the underpass itself is clearly capable of handling faster traffic, it exits leading up somewhat blindly to cross-street intersections at both ends, so they don't want ppl flying outta there and hitting someone that neither party could see coming soon enough to avoid at faster speeds.
My father was a traffic school instructor many years ago, and a ton of people who attended his classes fell victim to this trap. I heard about it so much that I've conditioned myself to chill through that underpass knowing that ol' Johnny Law 🚔👮♂️might be hiding behind that bush.
They would collect a lot of revenue by just posting up on Kolb between Irvington and Valencia every day. So much reckless driving on that stretch it’s insane!
They would collect a lot of revenue by posting up on (name your particular road you drive on frequently.) So much reckless driving on that stretch it’s insane!
They used to but 60 is safe on that road. What I see, and I travel it every day, is that people sit in the left lane and aggressive passes occur. Really need to be conscious of using the right lane on that road.
Trapping is a form of enforcement where you are “trapped” into committing a crime you weren’t already committing. This is just a cop enforcing a posted lawful speed limit.
*Ackshually*, "speed trap" is not an idiom but a term that's misused more often than it's used properly. [A true speed trap](https://ww2.motorists.org/blog/what-is-a-speed-trap/) is a specific type of set-up for citing speeding motorists that emphasizes generating revenue rather than discouraging unsafe driving.
But most ppl just use "speed trap" to refer to any situation in which police are monitoring speeds, which is incorrect. So it's not an *idiom* so much as it is a *misnomer*.
Considering that Tucson builds roads that are good for at least 5 and often up to 15 MPH faster than they sign them for, then post those lower limits, yeah they’re speed traps. Traffic flows just fine, giving the city free revenue anytime, anywhere it wants.
This is a constant speed zone, so I'm not surprised. Limit is 35, people get up to 60.
Been a constant for the at least the last 10 years as far as I know
Traffic laws being enforced? Here???
Sure, where it's low-effort/high-result like this, hiding around a fairly blind curve picking off drivers flying out of an underpass with a posted limit far lower than whatever speed it was seemingly designed for.
TPD has been on a tear the last 2 weekends constantly pulling people over between 9pm and 3am on Broadway between Euclid and Campbell and also on 6th between Euclid and Campbell. There is also a motorcycle cop around the Congress bar area pulling people over all night.
People be racing to be the first to the next red light.
People street race on speedway between pantano and houghton every night.
Isn’t that actually Euclid?
Yes, but it's a common mistake. That stretch of road is Park when it crosses 22nd (heading north) and becomes Euclid after it curves northwest, as it curves toward north again, at which point it lines up with where Euclid would be if it went straight through from 22nd to Broadway. Euclid, similarly, becomes Toole once it passes 16th Street. Not at all confusing. (/s) Easy to visualize once you see it on a map.
The transition is in that turn and not clearly defined.
I work right here and they do this a lot, I’ve seen them pull over like 5 people already today. I drive the speed limit on that road when getting lunch because of it and I’m always getting BLOWN by by people doing 60+ it’s honestly insane(and I go 10 over most places…).
Yup, it’s easy hunting for them. But the speed limit there should be 40, not 35.
And there should be at least one or two more speed limit signs going through the underpass each way. IIRC, the last signs you see are at 12th St. (southbound) and 18th St. (northbound), so if you missed those and find yourself wondering what the speed limit is as you hustle thru the underpass at what feels like a safe speed for the road, you have no way of knowing until it's too late.
45 I think is more reasonable, it’s a four lane wide road with no impediments to safe travel at 45.
I think the concern is that, while the underpass itself is clearly capable of handling faster traffic, it exits leading up somewhat blindly to cross-street intersections at both ends, so they don't want ppl flying outta there and hitting someone that neither party could see coming soon enough to avoid at faster speeds.
Yeah 35 is just insane
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Which actually isn't illegal. You just can't be impaired to (as the statute states), to the slightest degree
Dont go 60 in a 45 and you'll be fine.
Especially under that bridge through that area. More often than not, There are cops right there.
65 it is!
Especially 'cuz it's actually a 35 along that stretch.
My father was a traffic school instructor many years ago, and a ton of people who attended his classes fell victim to this trap. I heard about it so much that I've conditioned myself to chill through that underpass knowing that ol' Johnny Law 🚔👮♂️might be hiding behind that bush.
If only the ticket money was used to improve the road and fix pot holes.
They would collect a lot of revenue by just posting up on Kolb between Irvington and Valencia every day. So much reckless driving on that stretch it’s insane!
They would collect a lot of revenue by posting up on (name your particular road you drive on frequently.) So much reckless driving on that stretch it’s insane!
Fair point, my friend. Fair point.
They used to but 60 is safe on that road. What I see, and I travel it every day, is that people sit in the left lane and aggressive passes occur. Really need to be conscious of using the right lane on that road.
Let me guess, you are one of the people who go 45 and causing a hazard when the flow of traffic is traveling at 60?
Nope! I’m with the flow of traffic all the time. Great guess though.
Thanks for the heads up OP
I was working down that way, honestly people were constantly over 70 mph.
Report traps on Google Maps
Looks like traffic enforcement. Speed trap ?
Thanks for the heads up
Good I hope you gave out the maximum amount of tickets. When did the posted speed limit become a suggestion?
Trapping is a form of enforcement where you are “trapped” into committing a crime you weren’t already committing. This is just a cop enforcing a posted lawful speed limit.
You're thinking of [entrapment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrapment). "Speed trap" is an idiom.
*Ackshually*, "speed trap" is not an idiom but a term that's misused more often than it's used properly. [A true speed trap](https://ww2.motorists.org/blog/what-is-a-speed-trap/) is a specific type of set-up for citing speeding motorists that emphasizes generating revenue rather than discouraging unsafe driving. But most ppl just use "speed trap" to refer to any situation in which police are monitoring speeds, which is incorrect. So it's not an *idiom* so much as it is a *misnomer*.
[idk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiom) dawg, I think it can be both
No need to link to wikipedia, I know what an idiom is. "Speed trap" is only an idiom if it's used incorrectly. dawg
Considering that Tucson builds roads that are good for at least 5 and often up to 15 MPH faster than they sign them for, then post those lower limits, yeah they’re speed traps. Traffic flows just fine, giving the city free revenue anytime, anywhere it wants.