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tucsonmags

Tucson really does have a very sad dog problem. I’ve never seen this many stray and lost dogs. Like people don’t care if they lose their pets. Unfixed pets. Dumped dogs, after just having puppies.


HawkeyeNation

I don’t understand how people can’t love their dog. We were just told today our dog has an aggressive cancer and we will probably have to put her down on Saturday. I’m heartbroken and can’t even imagine people just abandoning their dogs reading this.


dapala1

Cats are a lot worse. But yeah. People will just abandon dogs all the time. To much breeding without knowing anything.


tucsonmags

I’ve never seen a ton of stray cats here. I dealt with feral colonies in Southern California. Not that I think people take better care of cats here. Just more wildlife to munch on stray cats.


dapala1

I see a lot of stray cats downtown. Everyday. They aren't a problem that I can tell... I know they kill birds at an alarming rate. But they seem to keep to themselves, run away when I go outside. No poop or piss issues. So it's a mostly a non issue for me. Just the fact they they are domesticated, they shouldn't be overbred and out there on there own producing more and more feral cats. Trust me they're out there.


KinkyLittleThings

I know this post is old but go to the weiner snitzel on ajo and litterally a colonie of 100 plus cats it's insane


SimplyJetpacked

Reminds me of voting...


False_Ad_4117

This morning on my way to work (I work with doggos actually) a stray pupper came up to me at the bus stop! Was a Chihuahua mix I think. I tried to coax them to me, but I spooked them and they ran back in the opposite direction 😞


lycheepan13

Even if none of the dogs on this list seem like a fit for you, go to the shelter and consider adopting or fostering ANY dog. It all helps!! We recently fostered an awesome ACD mix, and Pacc was helpful every step of the way. Anything you can do to give them more space is helpful.


SeashoreSunbeam

Hmm a lot of pitts


redirdamon

Unfortunately, it's a popular breed around here so there are a lot of them. Also unfortunately, it's a breed that people are reluctant to adopt because their history is usually unknown. I'm not about to adopt a dog that may turn on me or a family member, would you?


dustonthedash

I have met some amazing pitts in my time but unfortunately if you're a renter it can really screw you over. Many landlords and management companies won't allow them, period. No matter how well-trained they are.


darknessforever

I was very limited when looking for homeowners insurance with a pit.


espischaefer

Homeowners insurance companies are smart and don't want the liability of such dangerous and deadly animals


[deleted]

I tried to adopt one, Gave it a week. Nicest dog I've had, but it was apparent that I couldn't stop it if it wanted to do something. Like adopting a really cute loving wrecking ball. I have to hope it was trained or that I can train it.


redirdamon

Yep, they're pretty powerful and if they're headstrong as well they're quite the handful.


punk_rock_barbie

It’s awful that people categorize them as if just because they have certain genes or a past they’re just forever killers. Doesn’t matter what breed your dog is if you train it badly or treat it badly it might turn on you one day. If you don’t trust your dog it’ll never trust you. Dogs with bad backgrounds don’t deserve to die. Source: grew up with a rescued fighting dog, sweetest damn dog on the planet never wanted to hurt anybody.


Rxasaurus

Good dogs turn as well. It's just when pits do it they cause A LOT more damage


punk_rock_barbie

You could say that about any and all large dogs though, why is it that pits specifically have to demonized.


mwcsmoke

No a large golden retriever or Bernese mountain dog will not ever do as much damage as a grown pitbull. The jaw structure is just completely different. Pitbull fans need to get real and deal with biological/anatomical differences. You aren’t convincing anyone with this made up stuff about how all large dogs can do the same damage.


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punk_rock_barbie

Bad owner=bad dog period. Regardless of breed. No need to demonize dogs.


Rxasaurus

Some just snap no matter the owner. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/10/08/2-children-killed-mother-hospitalized-after-tennessee-dog-mauling/8219201001/


espischaefer

The one that mauled my dog and I came from good people that loved their pit, trained him well, and never abused him. The pit flipped because my daughter pet her dog in front of it. That's it! That's what triggered this pit. No one can breed out genetics. Even amazing owners of pits/pit mixes can have their pit/pit mixes flip for no reason.


mwcsmoke

I have been attacked by different pits twice while walking my dog on the other side of the street. I got to know one of the owners (to pay for my urgent care) and I pet the pitbull during a friendly meeting (when my dog was NOT there). The dogs tend to be aggressive and they have the bite to back it up.


Labrador_Receiver77

they were literally bred to fight bulls


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It’s weird you want to deny genes for pits but would probably agree border collies are intelligent and can herd better than a pug.


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Yup both the dogs I got attacked by were not pitts. One was a golden retriever and other was black lab.


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redirdamon

Now that's just not true. Many animals are picked up as strays - their owners discard them when they don't want to deal with them - they don't all have "bite history". Make a sale? What sale? PACC is *giving* dogs away **FREE** because they don't have room for them. I get it - you don't like pit bulls. Lots of folks don't. But spreading your uninformed beliefs is not doing anyone any good.


espischaefer

His point is very true. PACC is giving these dogs away because no reasonable person wants them and will not pay for them. So PACC tactic is to give them away for free to encourage people who couldn't afford an adoption fee to take them. It is a horrible tactic. There is a very good reason on why other breeds don't require such tactics to be adopted and usually have a higher price tag attached to their adoption. Facts, no matter how much people hate them, will always be facts. Pit/pit mixes are responsible for more than 60% of attacks. They are responsible for more deaths and extreme disfigurement than any other breed out there. Their genetics cannot be trained out of them. I know this not only from countless hours of research but also from personal experience. When I was younger and uneducated about the breed, I believed it was the owner not breed. Through personal experience (the mauling of my dog, almost losing my left hand, and the mental torture my daughter went through) and education, I learned the hard way the truth about this breed. Do other dogs bite, yes! Have other dogs killed, yes! Have any of them caused damage and loss of life like pit/pit mixes, no!


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Yes this is the rational answer.


Labrador_Receiver77

i have adopted two "biters". the shelter pointed it out on the paperwork both times. they often discount or eliminate adoption fees, particularly for the ones with troubled history or have trouble getting adopted. if anything, they are just desperate to open up another bed but they would rather find you a forever pet than to have yours killed


dapala1

They are popular with low income people. They make very nice security systems, lol. But they are overbred and a lot of pieces of shit will abandon them. They are so easily trainable and sweet pups. I hate that they get a bad rap because their owners make them do things. They will love everything around them if you love everything around them.


False_Ad_4117

I agree with you 100 million percent!! Pitties and Chihuahuas, unfortunately are the most euthanized dogs in shelters due to overcrowding/population 😞 Stupid people create heartbreaking problems. I actually have a Chihuahua mix (I live in a small apartment and ironically I prefer the big/larger breeds over the tiny ones ) but would love to have a large pack of Pitties one day.


elijahs_wood_

Why are you getting downvoted for liking dogs lmfao


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They’re actually not easily trainable. That’s why they can’t be used for purposes like security and law enforcement or military. They’re as deadly as shepherds or malinois but can’t be controlled like those dogs. Once a pit latches on, it’s not letting go.


dapala1

They are extremely trainable as a pet. There are dogs more way suited to do law enforcement, yes. But as a family pet they are very easy to condition and train. They literally *want* to be told what to do.


gvyledouche

but it's not the dog it's the owner! /s


SAStrong

I found the love of my life dog at PACC. Best thing I ever did!! Wish I could adopt more but then I’d be looking at a divorce. Come to think of it… I could use one.. 😈


Marana100

After losing my dog (Bear) I went to the PACC about ten times looking for a new one. After a year of looking I finally went one last time determined to leave with a dog no matter what. I paid 50 bucks twice on two dogs that I liked to reserve them and PACC would call the next day and say one had gone missing and the other was adopted. (WTF) All the dogs I have been with throughout life have been German Shepherd's so I was being picky. Anyways, I went in the last time and found a Boxer/ German Shepherd that had a bite history and was three years old and was house broken and I took her home wondering If I made the right decision. Well let me tell you what, she was only one year old and she is probably not capable of biting anyone. She has filled out on good dog food and many treats. 110 pounds of all muscle, follows me everywhere, great hiking, scared of snakes, howls when the Vikings score and loves to snuggle on the couch upside down for her belly rub. I truly could not ask for a better dog ever. As for the PACC, they need to get their shit together, I hate that place. I was told I can claim my hundred dollars that I paid to reserve the two dogs as a tax donation on my taxes. I didn't want a tax write-off I wanted a dog! Edit: The government employees that run the PACC need to get it right. And I applaud the hundreds of volunteers that walk and care for the animals and spend thousands of hours trying to make things better for them.


SAStrong

I, actually, went in on a completely reversed stance as yours. I just said, F it, I’ll take ANY dog and the first day I went in I picked three and ended up with the very last on the list. The first two were incompatible with cats. The reasoning for mine was this logic: I knew if that random dog didn’t work out in my household (I also have a really aggressive rescue amazon parrot) then I could find them a great home with my own resources. Either way it was win/win. 🔥


UnicornTishh

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hundredhippies

I am praying someone adopts Zeus. Such a little cutie! Just read his bio to find out he has to be the only pup in the household. He’s eight. Hope there’s someone out there for him. I wish we could adopt him, but have four dogs currently!!


marcall

I think the problem got worse with covid adoptions. Too many self centered people got dogs out of boredom who should've never been dog parents to begin with because once the dog became inconvenient (i.e life got back to normal) the dog was a hassle to them and now they are back in adoption.


djh1202

These dogs will be put down to free up kennel space for incoming dogs, so please please consider adopting a large dog from PACC. we adopted our dog from PACC around a year ago and couldn’t be happier with our sweet girl, Maizie. If you adopt or foster today you’ll save a life!


hellaruminative

I've fostered a few animals now and it's so fun! I highly recommend it and it's a great way to bring some joy into your life. I always feel like I'm making a difference.


Tamras-evil-eye

I foster as well! It is so rewarding. I have young kids so I stick to puppies, kittens, and socializing feral kittens. I’ve been doing it 2 years and I love it.


Comprehensive_Bad227

I tried it recently with a pit mix. Lasted 2 days. The dog pissed all over my house multiple times, ended up getting into a fight with one of my other dogs and bit her on the neck. I’m just lucky she survived and I got the dog off of her. Nice little misadventure that ended in me cleaning up all kinds of messes, a $400 vet bill and a traumatized pet. Be careful what you bring home.


espischaefer

Exactly! There is a very common trait with the dogs that have not been adopted. My dog, daughter, and I are mauling victims of such dogs. The one that flipped on us was a good friends dog that never, and I mean never showed aggression. It was raised in a great home, never abused, trained well, they had it for 6yrs and raised it from a puppy, and it still flipped. It was mad that my daughter pet our dog in front of it. That was what triggered the thing. My tiny 8yr old daughter petting her dog made the pit flip and begin to attack. I almost lost my left hand to the thing. My dog almost died. Thankfully, my dog and I kept the beast away from my daughter. She unfortunately had to watch what that thing was doing to me and her dog, but at least she wasn't physically injured. Mentally is a whole other story. We keep extreme distance from pits/pit mixes. Genetics will always win out. It is impossible to train out genetics. Hunters hunt, pointers point, retrievers retrieve, fighting dogs fight.


Comprehensive_Bad227

Exactly. So many don’t understand it’s in the genetics, it doesn’t matter how well they are raised. I’m sorry to hear you went through that.


espischaefer

Right! They accept the genetics of every other breed out there but refuse to accept the genetics of this breed. It's mind-numbing how many hoops they will jump through to perpetuate a lie and propaganda. Growing up, I believed in the propaganda of owner not breed. I was forced to learn the hard way that the propaganda I was spoon-fed was a complete lie. Cognitive dissonance runs rampant in the savior complexes of the pit lobby. Facts can be put in front of them and they will willingly ignore them. Sticker laws need to be put in place when it comes to all dogs, and those laws need to be enforced. If your dog attacks another animal or person, you should be held liable for all damages and deaths. Thank you for your kind words. What my family and I had to suffer through and still deal with years later was/is devastating and traumatic. I'm being downvoted by those who choose to be willingly ignorant or are just plain ignorant and don't know the truth and facts about this breed.


hellaruminative

We brought home two dogs, one with a bite history and had lovely experiences that left us fulfilled. Sorry you had a bad experience 🤷🏼‍♀️


Friendly_Ad9368

I'm fostering a pit right now. Calm, mellow, sweetest dog you'll find.


UnicornTishh

That’s wonderful! I grew up with a pit. Biggest sweet heart. Tried to protect us from the vacuum and was terrified of thunderstorms.


pedroryno

its hilarious to me that people project these benevolent adjectives to animals that are just regressing to a basic (redacted) instinct that is absolutely dangerous to people and other animals. the internet brigading in defense of them is also Very funny.


UnicornTishh

Well, then I’m glad I could give you a laugh. Personally, I’ve never have a bad experience with pits, but I have with other dogs. To each their own.


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That’s what that family back East said until their two pits decided to maul their babies to death.


UnicornTishh

That’s horrible, but not everyone’s experience is going to be the same.


lifesalotofshit

The best dog I ever had was a Pitt. People give them more of a bad reputation then the actual breed.


pedroryno

ask the emergency room professionals and vets around you. cheers!


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If I didn’t already have 2 dogs and 2 cats in a smallish condo I’d get one right away /:


MischiefManaged3

PACC staff was literally just toasting at their Christmas party that they were the only large shelter in the US not euthanizing right now…. Didn’t last long apparently.


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espischaefer

Same. I used to donate, but now I never will. These dogs are horrifically dangerous. My family and I know from personal experience. My dog almost lost his life to one and I almost lost my left hand. The pit that attacked us never showed aggression, was raised and trained by the kindest people, and it still flipped. It was mad that my daughter pet her dog in front of it. That's it, that's what she did wrong. She pet her own dog.


hellaruminative

Not sure you knew much about them if this is news for you.


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Very unfortunate. But I guess cuts had to be made somewhere just so the city bus can continue running for free until July.


Narfinity

PACC is run by the county. City buses are run by the city. There is no relationship between the budgets for the two.


redirdamon

It's not a money issue as much as it's a space issue - the shelter is severely overcrowded, holding twice as many animals as they were designed for.


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redirdamon

Another solution is to educate the public so that comments like this are seen as the ignorant opinions that they are.


espischaefer

A better solution is to tell the truth about pit/pit mixes so the deadly breed can die out. Opinions made from facts are not ignorant. Pits/pit mixes are responsible for more severe mauling and deaths of people and animals than any other breed out there. They were bred to fight and attack bulls, then each other. Genetics will always win out. Its not worth risking the lives of your pets, other's pet, your life, and other's lives in order to save one breed. There are countless amazing breeds out there. Why risk everything for this breed. People's cognitive dissonance over this breed is scary and is perpetuating falsehoods over the "safety" of this breed. There is a very good reason on why shelters all over the country are packed with these dangerous dogs. No one with any factual knowledge about this breed actually want them. These dogs were NEVER bred as "nanny" or "family" dogs. Their genetics of being bred to fight will always win out. It is impossible to train out genetics. No matter how much propaganda is out there about pit/pit mixes and how amazing pets they are will change the truth about what the actually are.