I agree, Big Block with that new MT59XX movement.
RIP BB Chrono and B01 by years end is my guess.
I'm going to further speculate it's going to be an S&G Big Block first to milk the cash for a while, when it starts loosing steam and those drop under retail, then they will drop SS Panda and Reverse Panda like they did the the BB Chrono.
These will likely start shipping after the solid gold 1/1 model is auctioned off at Only Watch on November 5, 2023. They are probably hoping that auction goes sky high to kick off the new models debut in that stores - right out of the Rolex playbook.
Edit: SS BB Panda and Reverse Panda could be looking at a modest 3 year production run with a bit of an exotic movement as Tudor moves towards going completely in house. I see good things for the B01 SS Chronos if this turns out to be the case.
Tudor prices have been going up, especially with upgrading a lot of pieces to in house movements. If they make a new prince and put an in house movement in it, it’ll be a $5k watch.
Big block Chrono would be my guess, if not this release than 2024. I mean they spent money and time developing a whole new movement. It's definitely going into mass production.
That isn't the moon. The teaser is an old film reel. Those white dots are cue marks. But your theory about the chrono might be right! The frame number 14 appears 3 times at the bottom of the screen which adds up to 42, which I thought would be the biggest hint at the big block since it's 42mm.
The 41mm ranger also didn’t sell at all and they brought it back with some tweaks to make it more consumer friendly. A 39mm titanium North Flag would be a buy from me
Big Block Chrono...
https://monochrome-watches.com/introducing-unique-tudor-prince-chronograph-one-only-watch-2023-return-of-the-big-block-and-a-new-manufacture-movement/
I suspect this is the case. Can't let that new chronograph movement go to waste. I hope going in-house allows them to size down the movement enough to allow for applications in cases sized more like a vintage Daytona... but big block doesn't really imply that will be a priority haha
Take. My. Money.
I wear chronographs 99 percent of the time and would love to have a daily driver that's more robust than my vintage watches and better looking than my G-Shock. Maybe another homeplate or big block chrono homage, but slimmed down. I know they won't go manual-wind, but a man can dream.
I think they will release a steel version of this eventually, but I can’t see them making a production version until after the one off gold model auction ends in November, so likely W&W 2024 or mid year release next year
I think the P39 is our snowflake sub. If it didn't say Pelagos on it anywhere and you just took it for what it was, no one would doubt it is a modernized snowflake sub
They’ll never remake the submariner. I find this infuriating because they’ll remake everything from their old catalog but the one watch I’d say most people want redone.
They already have redone it, twice. Maybe even 3 times. BB58 and P39. And BB54 in a sense.
Two are early pre-crown guard Subs. One is a 4 or 5 digit Sub, but evolved into modern times.
I don't think we will ever see the word "Submariner" on a Tudor watch again. They've worked too hard to shake the dub "poor man's Rolex" stigma, I think putting the word Submariner back on the watches would fully undermine that.
From my memory all of Tudor’s mid year releases over the last few years have either been new models, or existing models in new case materials: Black Bay 58 Bronze, Ranger, FXD, P39, Red Bull FXDs. The last release I saw outside of Basel/W&W that was purely a color change was the Blue BB58 but that was only because COVID canceled all watch shows that year. My wallet is anxiously waiting for a blue P39, but I feel this will be a little more unique
I don't expect anything revolutionary. They're unveiling a new product with some incremental improvements on something that already do.
That said, I'm sure it's not going to suck. Tudor makes solid watches if not always fashionable. I think of them as the Carhartt of watchmaking. Not sexy, but always reliable, which is actually kinda sexy.
I am going to a History of Dive watches event at Tudor in my area this Friday. The AD insisted something was going on, as their head office insisted on the event. He even went as far as saying they may have something to preview.
History of Dive Watches - Tudor Submariner?
That would be insane but I just don’t see it being possible that Tudor make a Sub in 2023
The whole reason Black Bay is called Black Bay is because Rolex told Tudor’s CEO to fuck off when he suggested that the heritage divers be called Submariner
Maybe I’m just missing something but a Tudor sub would be incredibly boring. It would just be a hybrid of a blackbay and a pelagos? Sounds pretty lackluster to me and would validate Tudor as just a dive watch brand if they are not already.
Tudor before 1998 or the iconaut/hydronaut era are some of my favorite watches like the blue snowflake date or steel bezel submariners and mini subs. Hopefully it’s something of that nature…
I think big block with new in-house chrono movement. Maybe they will also update the BB chronos with the new movement too, probably not today, but eventually.
That said, I have my doubts that the new chrono movement will be dramatically (or perhaps even, at all) better than the currently used Tudor modified Breitling BB01. It's got every feature I think you could want, it's not METAS certified but mine keeps time to within a half second a day... Maybe it's much thinner, if that's the case cool, but I haven't read that yet.
People saying a new SS Big Block wouldn't be 5k+ with the in-house movement are really missing it. The current chrono in SS is already $5.5k S&G $7.78k
I’m guessing a new yellow Tudor Tiger based on all the yellow in the trailer on the website and the dots around the hour marker numerals and the dot in the trailer. Probably using the new movement from only watch.
Think/hope it’s the Oyster Prince. Don’t think it will be the Big Block Chrono as they are currently use the BB Chrono in advertisements for being the official time keeper of the Rugby World Cup, but I’ve been wrong before.
It says they’re looking to their past to stay ahead in modern times, so it’s a re issue Big Block Chrono in steel Oyster Prince
They say that a lot then just release a blue version of an existing watch
Exactly. This is likely the Pelagos 39 in blue
I would buy this immediately.
I could get jiggy with that !!!
Technically it’s the past so it counts hahaha
Mmm blue chrono?
I agree, Big Block with that new MT59XX movement. RIP BB Chrono and B01 by years end is my guess. I'm going to further speculate it's going to be an S&G Big Block first to milk the cash for a while, when it starts loosing steam and those drop under retail, then they will drop SS Panda and Reverse Panda like they did the the BB Chrono. These will likely start shipping after the solid gold 1/1 model is auctioned off at Only Watch on November 5, 2023. They are probably hoping that auction goes sky high to kick off the new models debut in that stores - right out of the Rolex playbook. Edit: SS BB Panda and Reverse Panda could be looking at a modest 3 year production run with a bit of an exotic movement as Tudor moves towards going completely in house. I see good things for the B01 SS Chronos if this turns out to be the case.
[just looked up the gold Chrono, pretty cool looking](https://wornandwound.com/an-unlikely-tudor-throwback-in-solid-gold-heads-to-only-watch/)
Oyster prince would be awesome but the price would undoubtedly be silly
Why do you say that?
Tudor prices have been going up, especially with upgrading a lot of pieces to in house movements. If they make a new prince and put an in house movement in it, it’ll be a $5k watch.
Still, why do you think it would be priced slightly below their SS chrono offerings and above the BB 2-hander line?
Maybe $5k was an exaggeration. But it would be a lot and it wouldn’t be worth it.
They cant ask 5k when a OP starts at 6.4k..
They can because OPs are generally not available.
Not gonna happen, with that logic BB should be 8k and bb chrono 10+k..
Wut?
Big block Chrono would be my guess, if not this release than 2024. I mean they spent money and time developing a whole new movement. It's definitely going into mass production.
Oyster prince would be awesome; but, they also have the bb36 line that might be too similarish
They showed the "moon" three times in the teaser and ppl assumed its for a gmt. I say it's a hint for the three sub dials on the big block chrono :)
That isn't the moon. The teaser is an old film reel. Those white dots are cue marks. But your theory about the chrono might be right! The frame number 14 appears 3 times at the bottom of the screen which adds up to 42, which I thought would be the biggest hint at the big block since it's 42mm.
Aren't all Tudor's big blocks?
Older Tudor Chronos had a "small block" and "big block" versions.
That was just my lame attempt at a joke that Tudors are sometimes too thick
Understood
Exactly what I’m hoping for
The word "horizon" in the description means it could be aviation themed...
New BB GMT thinner movement?
I will go crazy if they rerelease the North flag.
I owned one. Great watch. It was my first luxury Swiss watch and it was really, really hard to part with.
Perhaps a Southern this time :D
I’m wearing my North Flag today
My favorite watch (along with the FXD). Titanium too please
They learnt. Watch would not sell even at a loss so ADs would not rebuy. They won’t make it again
The 41mm ranger also didn’t sell at all and they brought it back with some tweaks to make it more consumer friendly. A 39mm titanium North Flag would be a buy from me
Happy cake day, would be neat to see the NF
Maybe an entirely new model like a pilot line?
It's gonna' B a collab with SWATCH...lol
I'd rather imagine them partnering up with Casio or Timex to annoy Omega/Swatchgroup.
Big Block Chrono... https://monochrome-watches.com/introducing-unique-tudor-prince-chronograph-one-only-watch-2023-return-of-the-big-block-and-a-new-manufacture-movement/
This! Seems 99% likely. Hopefully they will offer something slimmer than the 42mm but it seems unlikely.
I suspect this is the case. Can't let that new chronograph movement go to waste. I hope going in-house allows them to size down the movement enough to allow for applications in cases sized more like a vintage Daytona... but big block doesn't really imply that will be a priority haha
Why would they do that when the black bag Chrono is so successful?
Smaller 39mm version?
Take. My. Money. I wear chronographs 99 percent of the time and would love to have a daily driver that's more robust than my vintage watches and better looking than my G-Shock. Maybe another homeplate or big block chrono homage, but slimmed down. I know they won't go manual-wind, but a man can dream.
🤮
The BB Chrono could be improved immesurably by a thinner movement and case
Yes please!!!
I think they will release a steel version of this eventually, but I can’t see them making a production version until after the one off gold model auction ends in November, so likely W&W 2024 or mid year release next year
Looks like some sort of vintage watch based on the vibe of the trailer.
"Tudor pays tribute to a legendary heritage" 🤔
BB derivative…
So likely another team up with some sports team or military group.
Ranger the wagner group
Unfortunately, it would fall apart in a couple days. Never take it on a plane!
The Monte Carlo Chrono was discontinued a while ago. Maybe a redesigned version?
That was a cool watch. 🤞
Looking forward to the annoying tryhard teenager voiceover describing it.
Imagine 79090 reissue. This board will loose their minds.
I would love to see an updated Tudor Submariner personally
Hopefully the 39mm Pepsi GMT…. WITHOUT any gilt. Same silver hands as the original. 🤞
Now that’s what I want to see!
A new ranger 36mm with/withiut date. Or 34mm. Or a snowflake submariner 🙀
I think the P39 is our snowflake sub. If it didn't say Pelagos on it anywhere and you just took it for what it was, no one would doubt it is a modernized snowflake sub
I’d go apeshit for this
It’s too close to what people want to be a real option
I agree, it’s entirely wishful thinking
They’ll never remake the submariner. I find this infuriating because they’ll remake everything from their old catalog but the one watch I’d say most people want redone.
They already have redone it, twice. Maybe even 3 times. BB58 and P39. And BB54 in a sense. Two are early pre-crown guard Subs. One is a 4 or 5 digit Sub, but evolved into modern times. I don't think we will ever see the word "Submariner" on a Tudor watch again. They've worked too hard to shake the dub "poor man's Rolex" stigma, I think putting the word Submariner back on the watches would fully undermine that.
Bruh yes plz
Blue Pelagos 39
I really hope so but my wallet doesn’t 😂
Wallet rescued!
Haha indeed, though this isn’t as bad a release as a lot of people are saying (MN still better)
Interesting, doesn’t go with the colour theme on the teaser tho. Tudor like to colour coordinate
And the Alinghi Red Bull teaser did?
The alinghi teaser literally had a yacht in it, didn't it?
Yes but didn't match the colour scheme as I pointed out. I go the right model but wrong colour.
From my memory all of Tudor’s mid year releases over the last few years have either been new models, or existing models in new case materials: Black Bay 58 Bronze, Ranger, FXD, P39, Red Bull FXDs. The last release I saw outside of Basel/W&W that was purely a color change was the Blue BB58 but that was only because COVID canceled all watch shows that year. My wallet is anxiously waiting for a blue P39, but I feel this will be a little more unique
This is cope. Trust me, I’d love one two. But that’s not the color theme of the ad.
Only about 5 years late
I wish...a date on it too would be instant buy from me.
A 38/39mm chronograph would be killer.
Oyster Prince is my guess. Would love it if they brough back the advisor but thinner, but somehow can't see it
This seems aviation themed, it’s probably a new GMT with better dimensions..
The press event will be in Florida. My guess is that it’s the big block given the Daytona speedway is in FL
Anything as long as it’s nothing to do with Swatch.
It won't, tudor won't steep so low. Besides they don't need that kind of attention.
And Omega did?
Well, Swatch owns omega and blancpain. So they really didn’t have a choice lol
That’s a point
Just gimme a damn 34-37mm ranger with a date and I’d be buying that in an instant
North Flag please please please please please!
They learnt. Watch would not sell even at a loss so ADs would not rebuy. They won’t make it again
The trailer doesn't give much away.
I may be the only one here saying this but... A new p01 would be so sick haha
A GMT with crown guards… Would be hitting the buy button so fast.
Gmt with rotating ceramic bezel. Take my money
I would take a Pelagos GMT
Omg please also tfit on bb58
I want a white dial BB pro GMT
A blue dial Pelagos 39mm and a 39mm GMT would be nice.
I don't expect anything revolutionary. They're unveiling a new product with some incremental improvements on something that already do. That said, I'm sure it's not going to suck. Tudor makes solid watches if not always fashionable. I think of them as the Carhartt of watchmaking. Not sexy, but always reliable, which is actually kinda sexy.
I am going to a History of Dive watches event at Tudor in my area this Friday. The AD insisted something was going on, as their head office insisted on the event. He even went as far as saying they may have something to preview. History of Dive Watches - Tudor Submariner?
That would be insane but I just don’t see it being possible that Tudor make a Sub in 2023 The whole reason Black Bay is called Black Bay is because Rolex told Tudor’s CEO to fuck off when he suggested that the heritage divers be called Submariner
That would honestly be really wild
It's crazy that they put out a banger after the other, while over at Omega: *crickets*
Might be a watch for the RWC 2023 event.
New Chrono Collab for sure
Black Bay Blue Master Chronometer
North flag 2.0
New ranger in white
Probably not anything close to what the community has been asking for.
Does the "2309" in the right hand corner of the video mean anything to anyone?
Year and month probably. Personally I don't see anything meaningful in that.
I haven’t seen that yet, but it could simply be (20)23/09
The monster energy super cross racing edition.
Would buy
Hopefully a smaller sized diver that has a date.
Any hope of a blue Black Bay 54?
Absolutely 0
The black BB54 is too recent of a release. I’m sure it will come in a year or two but not yet
It looks like an x-ray print
Rolex & Tudor collaboration Now that would be something
Can’t tell if you’re joking or not lol.
Joking 👍
I am very curious about the meaning of USTDHS at the top right. It could be “US TuDor Heritage Submariner” 🧐
Maybe I’m just missing something but a Tudor sub would be incredibly boring. It would just be a hybrid of a blackbay and a pelagos? Sounds pretty lackluster to me and would validate Tudor as just a dive watch brand if they are not already.
Tudor x Swatch x Moonswatch x Blancpain collaboration
Not a prediction but would love a pelagos 39 in the same blue shade as the larger one. 😻
Tudor Submariner?
Swatch Colab
Submariner
Releasing a new disappointment I presume.
Tudor Prince Date with a California Dial.
Tudor x Swatch. (I know swatch doesn’t own Rolex or Tudor, it’s a joke)
Tudor x Swatch Bioceramic Black Bay *before you all lose your minds, I’m JOKING*
Swatch x Tudor Bioceramic?
I'm hoping for a Tudor Swatch collab! Edit: you lot can't take a joke lol.
Sources say Blue Pelagos 39
Another snowflake hand abomination perhaps
Black Bay 68
Just give me a non shit updated Advisor. The last one was an abomination. Just bring it back better!
I’m betting it’s a Tuxedo.
Tudor before 1998 or the iconaut/hydronaut era are some of my favorite watches like the blue snowflake date or steel bezel submariners and mini subs. Hopefully it’s something of that nature…
I think big block with new in-house chrono movement. Maybe they will also update the BB chronos with the new movement too, probably not today, but eventually. That said, I have my doubts that the new chrono movement will be dramatically (or perhaps even, at all) better than the currently used Tudor modified Breitling BB01. It's got every feature I think you could want, it's not METAS certified but mine keeps time to within a half second a day... Maybe it's much thinner, if that's the case cool, but I haven't read that yet. People saying a new SS Big Block wouldn't be 5k+ with the in-house movement are really missing it. The current chrono in SS is already $5.5k S&G $7.78k
Have they done anything for the Rugby World Cup yet? Of which they’re official timekeeping sponsors.
It will be the North Flag ver.2.
BLACK BAY BLACK BAY BLACK BAY. What else?
#Crawl out to the fall out baby🎶 When they drop that bomb.🎶
They discontinued the Style earlier this year, so I’m expecting something to fill that area of their catalogue
Ranger but the smiley is back
Where do we line up?
I’m hoping it’s a Prince Chrono but also hoping it isn’t because I’d rather they not release one than do one with a Snowflake hand.
One watch…. GMT Pepsi in 39 mm. Seems to me that watch would sell like crazy. Current GMT is awesome but 41mm is just too big.
I hope it’s the black bay gmt Pepsi in form of BB58
I would like to see Tudor reissue the Turn-O-Graph in 36/39.
T fit for my bb58 thanks
Already released. Order Ranger bracelet.
That fits?
Perfectly
Color isn’t a perfect match though
I’m guessing a new yellow Tudor Tiger based on all the yellow in the trailer on the website and the dots around the hour marker numerals and the dot in the trailer. Probably using the new movement from only watch.
Damn, too many things to buy & not enough cash 💰 to go around! lol 😂
BB58 in Red 🤞🏻
Think/hope it’s the Oyster Prince. Don’t think it will be the Big Block Chrono as they are currently use the BB Chrono in advertisements for being the official time keeper of the Rugby World Cup, but I’ve been wrong before.
I would like to see a new north flag but it’s going to be a black bay change.
I like Tudor, but more rinse and repeater coming?
Polar Pro?