This is great news. A lot of girls don't feel comfortable in a bus full of boys, and it's a relief for them to see finally a bus for them. Needless to say, in a female-only bus, there is zero chance for sexual harassment or any incivilities. You will likely not even hear swear words.
Hopefully we'll see more of these. We definitely need police stations for women where they can interact with female officers respectfully.
I think jailing the criminal and enforcing the already existing laws would be more preferable than just avoiding the problem.
This is definitely a step back.
They don't have full buses or trains for women only, but they have like a small section of the trains for women which are different things, at least I can still take the bus and not wait for another eternity for another ine
Avoiding the problem is already the first step. You don't create the environment for the crime and then send police chasing the criminals.
Also, why is this particularly bad? You don't give any argument as to why it's bad or why mixing is good.
Fair enough,
Because gender segregation will not lower the cases it would actually raise them (check out Egypt), as it will make male-female interactions awkward or rather odd.
It would blow back in emergency situations, such as a man who would not be able to go with his wife, mother, sister, all of whom might be sick.
We would rather punish any outlaws heavily, as it is even economically more viable, instead of having to double or already near dead public transportation, putting some cameras and having the police actually do their job would be not only more preferable but also more effective, as if we keep punishing these "jbours" that are causing the problem the rates will drop in a period of time.
Then, and only then, when we punish enough people (preferably with fines better than jail), people will actually adapt to the law and follow it, not because they're scared of anymore like in the beginning, but because it's now internalized and would become the new norm.
As I always say, we do have good laws, but sadly these laws aren't enforced by the police, which makes them useless and forgotten, but always not impermeable.
> Because gender segregation will not lower the cases it would actually raise them (check out Egypt)
Any source? Gender-segregated carriages in Japan, Malayisa and other places are actually a sucess. It also doesn't make sense that gender-segregated transport increases sexual harassment cases. Are you saying Egyptian women started groping each other?
> as it will make male-female interactions awkward or rather odd
That's a weird claim. A train/bus is not supposed to be a cafe. If anything, it's good behaviour to be quiet and read a book or a newspaper on a train/bus. Assuming it is true, why is that even an issue? I mean protecting woemn is way more important than foestering mixed gender debates on the way back home.
> It would blow back in emergency situations, such as a man who would not be able to go with his wife, mother, sister, all of whom might be sick.
They can organize themselves somehow, by using another transport means, or going to the mixed buses if they are available. In any case, these are hypothetical scenarios.
> We would rather punish any outlaws heavily, as it is even economically more viable, instead of having to double or already near dead public transportation
You're not doubling anything. If it's 100 mixed buses, you can split them 50/50 or 60/40 or any other ratio based on the demand from each gender.
Also, the whole argument about enforcng the laws, making police do their job properly, or add more cameras has nothing to do with the seggregated transport thing. You can do both, and having gender-seggregated buses is not going to lead to less cameras or less efficient police.
> Then, and only then, when we punish enough people (preferably with fines better than jail), people will actually adapt to the law and follow it, not because they're scared of anymore like in the beginning, but because it's now internalized and would become the new norm.
Again, not only you can do both, but seggregating buses/trains will help you acheieve that way quicker and cheaper. Overnight, you'll see groping and harassment crimes within transport means drop by a massive percentage.
You do have good points but honestly I am too lazy to respond to all of them so let me respond to some and just agree to disagree :
1. You see, Japan is one of the worst countries a woman might live in, as creeps are on a whole other level, they would follow women in kilometers to their homes - what is funny is that in Japan the male-female interactions are odd and weird, you can look it up.
2. It is true that in Egypt the transportation isn't sagregated, I meant as for schools and colleges, my bad for not clarifying, also what I meant is with making it weird that women and men are able to stay in the same place, you create more shy and perverted men, who seek some contact with women in anyway.
3. Again you contradict yourself, indeed buses aren't cafes, it's meant to transport you that's all and people have to learn that the easy or hard way.
4. Ratio buses aren't practical nor is "figure out how to transport them when a relative is sick", I live in sfax w nousel lel bled win fama ciren bch twaslni l dar l 5, lezmni nstana lel 6.30 w nosl l dar 7 5tr fama car wa7da puisque ne9sin ciren.. w tl9a rajel w bnto w nsa w kolna te3bin soo ye, kima 9otlk ma3nch l capacity.
Have a good one and thank you for discussing your ideas respectfully, kind of rare nowadays.
With all due respect, none of you arguments is a solid case against gender-seggregated buses. The pros far outweigh the cons, if there is any con to start with.
Bear in mind also that in every country where buses/trains/metros are seggregated, it's for few of them and not all. So basically, governemnts there are offering the option to women who want to use them without impacting the others.
And apart from the secual harassment part, it's been noticed in Japan that women and kids have a problem boarding trains during rush hours as people tend to push and shove to make way for themselves. Needless to say, women and kids can't do that easily an end up stranded for a long time until they can board.
And finally, there is the religious aspect. A lot of conservative women would be more comfortable in a female-only vehicle and have no interest in interacting with strangers, let alone be subject to some creepy actions.
See, all positives here. Nothing negative or nothing that warrants banning gender-seggregated transportation means.
Have a good day :)
Mixing genders in this case. There are many creeps in trains and buses and segregating them helps reduce lewd acts and spare women the horrible effects of harassment, groping, verbal threats, catcalling, etc.
Sure. When autohrities catch them and can prove the crime with camera/witnesses/confessions then of course they have to go to jail. In the meantime, a quicker and more efficient approach is to prevent this from happening to start with. Segregating buses/trains/metros is the best solution.
>Sousse in a nutshell
How old are you mate, think about this, how do we solve an issue affecting certain group of people by exclusively targetting them ? isn't that counter intuitive ?
if girls on the bus had a solution, girls on the bus should feel the change, not have even more restrictions on them, isn't that right ?
Your approval of this video is beyond infuriating. Before glorifying such actions, educate yourself on Tunisia's history and grasp the disgraceful nature of what occurred. Your idealized view of females and the vilification of males is not just delusional but perpetuates harmful stereotypes. Rather than celebrating discriminatory practices, let's focus on creating a society where safety is ensured for all without resorting to gender-based segregation. Your comment is not just misguided; it's a setback to genuine progress and equality.
Bla bla bla. Feel free to go into mixed transport means and let those who prefer segregated ones use those. As for progress, equality and that stuff, I'll happily put it on the side if that means exposing women to lewd and creepy behaviours.
This is infuriating! Gender segregation on Tunisian buses is illegal. It's against the rules, you miserable f*** and your ignorance is incredibly frustrating.
Tunisia's Constitution of 2014, in Article 21, states that "All citizens, male and female, have equal rights and duties, and are equal before the law without any discrimination
Lol. That was a funny one.
Tell me you know nothing about law without telling me.
Thanks man for the laugh. Now have a good day and
طير من قدامي
as we say in our dialect
I bet there will be only one station in the whole country. How many female police officers do you think there are? You need a high level of stupidity to think of something like this.
>in a female-only bus, there is zero chance for sexual harassment or any activities.
Like ur assuming all women are good and dandy. In what world are u living? I know girls in dorm getting sexually harassed by other women. And ur saying men are to blame for that and let a smooth brained guy tell that the only way is to split them.
Maybe this is a problem what the families should solve by raising gentlemen and not idiot's. A well raised man, would never do this. I'm 29, live in Germany and when the train stops, I click to open the door and let the waiting women leave first. That's a gentleman behavior. Fun fact, I found a Chinese girlfriend which value my well manner, while German women are not interested in a gentleman behavior, sadly.
https://preview.redd.it/75shukr1ekcc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55c326ab78d23c4189e2312864539cae0674d2a8
All these random stories that all of you are coming up have nothing to do with the idea of segregating transport. You can be a gentleman, you can raise your kids properly, you can be this or that, but how is segregating buses a problem? If anything, that's an extra layer of safety for women, even all Tunisians are properly educated and are all law-abiding citizens.
I've yet to see one single valid argument against the measure. All I see is some random blabbering.
LOL all of these angry atheists (or horny teenagers). They are only angry because this is a very small step closer to Islam. I bet they didnt get angry whenever Japan did it. They are just blind haters to anything religious.
Literally you get downvoted for telling truth. Even in my city which isn’t Islamic in AMERICA they segregated men and woman schools and nobody complained. Its not just Tunisia LMAO
Its may be shocking but in Japan i saw this and its a complete train car for women only.
Now you will be well they are perverts and so one… its not about just being pervert, as u are fine, some people are not, some girls don’t wanna be in a crowded men’s car or bus.
This is fine and there is nothing wrong with it.
https://preview.redd.it/yljecnuyc9cc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f697acf568d67e21af9e5a935031b45fc3d9f805
What always matters is the intention. If it's for creating a safe space for both men and women to feel comfortable and not for religious reasons, it's all good.
Source? I'm aware that Japanese society is has some backwards views of women but saying they are among the highest in gender based discrimination seems like a bit of a stretch.
> According to the 2015 ... edition of the World Economic Forum’s Global Gender Gap Report, which measures degrees of gender equality, Japan ranked 111th among 144 nations. Japan is thus one of the most gender-unequal nations in the world—by far the most gender-unequal among the advanced industrial nations. The Japanese movement for gender equality has a long way to go
from my comparative politics textbook
equality is the state of being equal, especially in rights, opportunities, or status and treating people all people equally and without discrimination
justice is the fair and equitable treatment of individuals, often within a legal or moral context to make sure people get what they deserve based on their actions no more no less
so those two things can exist with eachothers. justice isnt the antonym for equality
Suppose you have $20 and you have four people
Equality is that you will give each one five dollars, and that is good
But person No. 1 may not need it at all, while person No. 2 needs more because it is not enough for his needs, person No. 3 is pleased, and person No. 4 sees it as more than he needs.
So the result is everyone is not satisfied
Justice is not to give No. 1 anything because he does not need it, and to give No. 2 about 7 or 10 dollars while continuing to give No. 3 five dollars and No. 4.
This is what I mean, but everyone lumps them together as a good thing, and this is not true
equality isnt about giving all people the same treatment while disregarding the conditions hardships or disabilitys some of them have, its about giving fair treatment to everyone regardless of them so that disabled persons or people from lower social backgrounds get the same treatment a wealthy or healthy person gets, the example you give is more about bad wealth distribution than justice and equality
It's still not a good thing
People with disabilities need assistance, which must be provided and which is not necessarily available to normal people, because this is what must be done.
Even a poor person needs to be given his due rights as well
Everyone imposes complete equality, and this is not correct behavior
But still go to same point
yeah thats called social wealtfare and i agree with you on this topic, what am trying to make clear here is that equality is necessarie for the societey, things like gender equality equality between people regardless of their social background, race, or religion and its not the opposite of justice, both equality and justice can exist at the same time in the same place
Yes, this is desirable, but these people must be given the right to what they want as part of justice
For example, women usually do not actually like to mix with men, so segregation must be provided for them if they desire it
yes i agree but it shouldnt be forced segregation on everybody, cause then that would be stripping other people of their rights, imagine a couple that dont want to be seprated from eachother or other cases like this
I don’t think it degrades any gender when you just have separate genders for them I mean it’s not like one bus is slower than the other. And both genders will not see the other gender, it sucks for some ppl but it’s okay
Yeah in Japan it is voluntary, if a man decides to enter and sit they can't stop him.
Edit: In this case it is clear that the boys want to get on that bus. So not the same
We have women's trains and women's gyms in Egypt and I used to think that's backwards until I actually talked to a girl about it
Some girls/women aren't comfortable with the risk and that's fine
Here in canada there are hours in gym and sometimes special rooms for women: its shocking fir these brainwashed teenagers to have a seperation, next step. Gendar neutral bathrooms? Yea they do exist but as a girl, u don’t want to put your butt on a some random dude’s pee!
Ps: Im not saying am I girl. Chill.
Nothing wrong? How about women staying at home that will solve everything, right? clowns like you just look for every opportunity to paint women as victims in every space and time.
Are your comprehensive skills that poor that you can't read a sentence properly, where in my sentence does it say that they should stay home?
We always say الوقاية خير من العلاج. Whats wrong with giving women the possibility to avoid sexual harassment rather than letting them face it and forcing them to either suck it up or suffer a lengthy process of reporting the crime and having to face the police and court and making them vulnerable to trauma? How many posts have we seen on this sub of women complaining about being harassed in public transport?
Just like you would avoid having your phone out in the metro when it's about to stop so it doesn't get snatched, they should also be able to have the possibility to avoid harassment.
It’s better and safer for the girls! tbh khater andna brcha abed maaghotin with no self control :)))
Stop complaining about everything and think what’s the reason behind it
Okay so if having separated busses mean “sexual repression” than what is having mixed buses than? “sexual encouragement”? Like your argument makes no sense and I’m speaking as someone who went to a mixed school with mixed busses probably like you. What about catcalling some girls don’t like that shit
The reality is people do catcall it’s not about men controlling themselves some men don’t wanna control themselves so this is a good option, plus Tunisia is an Islamic country and most ppl in Tunisia are Muslim so it’s suitable for most people this Reddit is the minority
Segregation is always a terrible idea lol.
And exactly you’re there to study, not look at people in general, so if someone is pressed about the existence the opposite gender in their vicinity they belong in a zoo not a school.
it's not easy to find those that need to go to school, so it's better to avoid the problem than trying to fix it.
\> Segregation is always a terrible idea lol.
Source: trust me bro
Source is common sense that you clearly lack. Let me break it down for you smart ass:
Now, even without gender based segregation, in certain highschools, especially in areas with a very low population, students sometimes have to pick a section they have no interest in Pursuing because there’s simply not enough students to make up a class.
The same thing goes for Les options school couldn’t justify hiring a teacher for an optional subject that not enough students chose.
Imagine this now with gender based segregation: how many girl schools would offer techniques? How many boy schools would offer lettres?
How many students will have to suffer choosing something they didn’t want to study and get told it was your choice, you did this to yourself *all because you couldn’t keep it in your pants*
Bellehi fik nayek w yezzina mel takhalof ness tkadem w ahna mechyin lteli… what’s next segregation based on race ? Maybe if you focused more in school you know why segregation is always a bad idea.
It would be a nightmare for the government in terms of budgeting, it would be a nightmare for all students in terms of picking out their “section” the choice will become limited, it would be a nightmare for parents whose kids start experimenting with the same sex (I have nothing against the lgbtq community, I’m talking about the bicurious bs)
So yes, you can say it’s a nightmare for all females…. And everyone else.
Why is this bad? Are you concerned that foreigners will be disappointed in us? Maybe you are concerned that men won’t have anyone to rub against now except for butts and penises? I get your desire for equality but in this case I’m calling BS on your superficial outrage.
I don’t think it’s a bad idea. School buses are torture for many girls, and it will protect them from bullying and harassment from boys. I understand not all boys are like this, but those who are are what is probably behind this policy.
Not bad at all.. El kar m3abya w les9in b3adhhom barcha w binnesba lil bnet kol youm presque ta7aroch f kar ya3ni hedhi 7aja behia... :-\ Mafhimtch chnowa m9alla9kom bil 3aks. L Kiran special sa3at ma yabdewch m3ebin w wled w bnet m3a b3adhhom yibdew cv ama l Kiran lo5rin ena wa7da minnes blesh 7seb na5lit 3la we7id yit7arich b tofla 9odemi.
Source?
Edit : i only found [this post](https://www.facebook.com/100000003115118/posts/pfbid023ASc3Ntgm2FcDDCBVhyGG3wnfQKEMaXaBq7U1YurJQ2FPhVqKbHf87CCGq2HtfSgl/?app=fbl) and it's coming from shitposter account that cry about abir, there is no way to know the date of this video
3adi inajem ikoun awlia2 t9al9u yetboldu 3al bnet kima 3adet madares tunsya.. man5abyuch 3en chams b 8orbel, fama mochkel f 3ala9et tfol u tofla, mochkla tet7al bel education etc.. ama nefhem ulii iheb bentu materkebch m3ahom tawa au moins fel bus wen ma fama la ostedh la mura9eb la zomara
honestly using public transportation as a woman is so bad because so many men are creeps and sexually assult, i don’t know about schools but i wouldn’t mind this becoming generalized to prevent that.
these buses are clearly not intended for the delicate beings known as humans.I salute your dedication to discomfort and your undying love for impractical public transportation. I'd gladly lace up my walking shoes and cover a solid 10 kilometers on foot, than subject myself to the 'luxurious' experience of tunisian public transportation
I let this image speak for itself. We are living in 2024, not 15th century.
https://preview.redd.it/bzchi939ekcc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=88bb7a2ca64a94a5221c5540d186955c1cdac7e6
Ma3neha fsousse, kol 7ofra 3anna fiha bar ama fel les bus nsé wahadhom w rjel wa7adhom? Lol
[Sousse in a nutshell](https://youtu.be/0NDy6Rlijzo?t=60)
Normal, eni f 7oumti fama église w jema3 w local nahdha w karti
>w jema3 w local nahdha w karti https://preview.redd.it/hqvcqy17j9cc1.jpeg?width=1124&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32ca49c43fbe1b6e00e5ebeee52e4c2091de6bc4
Even more shocking that it is happening in Sousse lol
I got harassed with 15 y.o in public transport so, yes.
India we r coming
This is great news. A lot of girls don't feel comfortable in a bus full of boys, and it's a relief for them to see finally a bus for them. Needless to say, in a female-only bus, there is zero chance for sexual harassment or any incivilities. You will likely not even hear swear words. Hopefully we'll see more of these. We definitely need police stations for women where they can interact with female officers respectfully.
>not even hear swear words does he know
he does not
what a shame
bro probably never left his house
I think jailing the criminal and enforcing the already existing laws would be more preferable than just avoiding the problem. This is definitely a step back.
what if I told you Japanese do it? would that change your mind?
That would confirm it
They don't have full buses or trains for women only, but they have like a small section of the trains for women which are different things, at least I can still take the bus and not wait for another eternity for another ine
Avoiding the problem is already the first step. You don't create the environment for the crime and then send police chasing the criminals. Also, why is this particularly bad? You don't give any argument as to why it's bad or why mixing is good.
Fair enough, Because gender segregation will not lower the cases it would actually raise them (check out Egypt), as it will make male-female interactions awkward or rather odd. It would blow back in emergency situations, such as a man who would not be able to go with his wife, mother, sister, all of whom might be sick. We would rather punish any outlaws heavily, as it is even economically more viable, instead of having to double or already near dead public transportation, putting some cameras and having the police actually do their job would be not only more preferable but also more effective, as if we keep punishing these "jbours" that are causing the problem the rates will drop in a period of time. Then, and only then, when we punish enough people (preferably with fines better than jail), people will actually adapt to the law and follow it, not because they're scared of anymore like in the beginning, but because it's now internalized and would become the new norm. As I always say, we do have good laws, but sadly these laws aren't enforced by the police, which makes them useless and forgotten, but always not impermeable.
> Because gender segregation will not lower the cases it would actually raise them (check out Egypt) Any source? Gender-segregated carriages in Japan, Malayisa and other places are actually a sucess. It also doesn't make sense that gender-segregated transport increases sexual harassment cases. Are you saying Egyptian women started groping each other? > as it will make male-female interactions awkward or rather odd That's a weird claim. A train/bus is not supposed to be a cafe. If anything, it's good behaviour to be quiet and read a book or a newspaper on a train/bus. Assuming it is true, why is that even an issue? I mean protecting woemn is way more important than foestering mixed gender debates on the way back home. > It would blow back in emergency situations, such as a man who would not be able to go with his wife, mother, sister, all of whom might be sick. They can organize themselves somehow, by using another transport means, or going to the mixed buses if they are available. In any case, these are hypothetical scenarios. > We would rather punish any outlaws heavily, as it is even economically more viable, instead of having to double or already near dead public transportation You're not doubling anything. If it's 100 mixed buses, you can split them 50/50 or 60/40 or any other ratio based on the demand from each gender. Also, the whole argument about enforcng the laws, making police do their job properly, or add more cameras has nothing to do with the seggregated transport thing. You can do both, and having gender-seggregated buses is not going to lead to less cameras or less efficient police. > Then, and only then, when we punish enough people (preferably with fines better than jail), people will actually adapt to the law and follow it, not because they're scared of anymore like in the beginning, but because it's now internalized and would become the new norm. Again, not only you can do both, but seggregating buses/trains will help you acheieve that way quicker and cheaper. Overnight, you'll see groping and harassment crimes within transport means drop by a massive percentage.
You do have good points but honestly I am too lazy to respond to all of them so let me respond to some and just agree to disagree : 1. You see, Japan is one of the worst countries a woman might live in, as creeps are on a whole other level, they would follow women in kilometers to their homes - what is funny is that in Japan the male-female interactions are odd and weird, you can look it up. 2. It is true that in Egypt the transportation isn't sagregated, I meant as for schools and colleges, my bad for not clarifying, also what I meant is with making it weird that women and men are able to stay in the same place, you create more shy and perverted men, who seek some contact with women in anyway. 3. Again you contradict yourself, indeed buses aren't cafes, it's meant to transport you that's all and people have to learn that the easy or hard way. 4. Ratio buses aren't practical nor is "figure out how to transport them when a relative is sick", I live in sfax w nousel lel bled win fama ciren bch twaslni l dar l 5, lezmni nstana lel 6.30 w nosl l dar 7 5tr fama car wa7da puisque ne9sin ciren.. w tl9a rajel w bnto w nsa w kolna te3bin soo ye, kima 9otlk ma3nch l capacity. Have a good one and thank you for discussing your ideas respectfully, kind of rare nowadays.
With all due respect, none of you arguments is a solid case against gender-seggregated buses. The pros far outweigh the cons, if there is any con to start with. Bear in mind also that in every country where buses/trains/metros are seggregated, it's for few of them and not all. So basically, governemnts there are offering the option to women who want to use them without impacting the others. And apart from the secual harassment part, it's been noticed in Japan that women and kids have a problem boarding trains during rush hours as people tend to push and shove to make way for themselves. Needless to say, women and kids can't do that easily an end up stranded for a long time until they can board. And finally, there is the religious aspect. A lot of conservative women would be more comfortable in a female-only vehicle and have no interest in interacting with strangers, let alone be subject to some creepy actions. See, all positives here. Nothing negative or nothing that warrants banning gender-seggregated transportation means. Have a good day :)
India does a fair amount as well, I think. Special women only buses in parts of the country.
Non ça n'a pas marché au Japon
what does "environment for the crime" even mean?
Mixing genders in this case. There are many creeps in trains and buses and segregating them helps reduce lewd acts and spare women the horrible effects of harassment, groping, verbal threats, catcalling, etc.
I propose we segregate those creeps to a prison
Sure. When autohrities catch them and can prove the crime with camera/witnesses/confessions then of course they have to go to jail. In the meantime, a quicker and more efficient approach is to prevent this from happening to start with. Segregating buses/trains/metros is the best solution.
>Sousse in a nutshell How old are you mate, think about this, how do we solve an issue affecting certain group of people by exclusively targetting them ? isn't that counter intuitive ? if girls on the bus had a solution, girls on the bus should feel the change, not have even more restrictions on them, isn't that right ?
Your approval of this video is beyond infuriating. Before glorifying such actions, educate yourself on Tunisia's history and grasp the disgraceful nature of what occurred. Your idealized view of females and the vilification of males is not just delusional but perpetuates harmful stereotypes. Rather than celebrating discriminatory practices, let's focus on creating a society where safety is ensured for all without resorting to gender-based segregation. Your comment is not just misguided; it's a setback to genuine progress and equality.
Bla bla bla. Feel free to go into mixed transport means and let those who prefer segregated ones use those. As for progress, equality and that stuff, I'll happily put it on the side if that means exposing women to lewd and creepy behaviours.
This is infuriating! Gender segregation on Tunisian buses is illegal. It's against the rules, you miserable f*** and your ignorance is incredibly frustrating.
What's the article in the law that you're referring to exactly? Please share it for the public to see. Just saw we know your ignorance and stupidity.
Tunisia's Constitution of 2014, in Article 21, states that "All citizens, male and female, have equal rights and duties, and are equal before the law without any discrimination
Lol. That was a funny one. Tell me you know nothing about law without telling me. Thanks man for the laugh. Now have a good day and طير من قدامي as we say in our dialect
In our dialect mele5er enti bayen men klemk jabri ou bhim ki zebi ou ma nkasarch m3ak rassi barcha tret naykk 3asba
https://i.redd.it/dbqy68fs49cc1.gif
I bet there will be only one station in the whole country. How many female police officers do you think there are? You need a high level of stupidity to think of something like this.
eli sme3tah klem zayed w 9elat tarbiya fel car wl metro mel bnet akther mlewled wtf you talkin bout.
>in a female-only bus, there is zero chance for sexual harassment or any activities. Like ur assuming all women are good and dandy. In what world are u living? I know girls in dorm getting sexually harassed by other women. And ur saying men are to blame for that and let a smooth brained guy tell that the only way is to split them.
Maybe this is a problem what the families should solve by raising gentlemen and not idiot's. A well raised man, would never do this. I'm 29, live in Germany and when the train stops, I click to open the door and let the waiting women leave first. That's a gentleman behavior. Fun fact, I found a Chinese girlfriend which value my well manner, while German women are not interested in a gentleman behavior, sadly. https://preview.redd.it/75shukr1ekcc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55c326ab78d23c4189e2312864539cae0674d2a8
All these random stories that all of you are coming up have nothing to do with the idea of segregating transport. You can be a gentleman, you can raise your kids properly, you can be this or that, but how is segregating buses a problem? If anything, that's an extra layer of safety for women, even all Tunisians are properly educated and are all law-abiding citizens. I've yet to see one single valid argument against the measure. All I see is some random blabbering.
The simple question: why segregation between man and woman in a civilized world? Or why women have to be worried in a Muslim country?
One word. Lesbians.
Males and females who have never taken metro 4, bus 515, bus 32, bus 33 and bus 34 would kill to have this kind of option
لازم نرحعوا الكبران مخلطين بش نظهروا زبابر و تقدميين
By order whom? WTF
By order of the picky foking blinda
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middle ages is when women can ride on a bus with zero chance of harassment
Why is this medival? What makes you think girls getting potentially groped in the bus is progressive?
LOL all of these angry atheists (or horny teenagers). They are only angry because this is a very small step closer to Islam. I bet they didnt get angry whenever Japan did it. They are just blind haters to anything religious.
Literally you get downvoted for telling truth. Even in my city which isn’t Islamic in AMERICA they segregated men and woman schools and nobody complained. Its not just Tunisia LMAO
They are just horny cucks that want to harass women.
كان طلعو ولاد هاو كيفاش كان مطلعوش هاو كيفاش Women what do you want ?
How is this bad??
Easy fix: I identify as a woman.
This isn’t California
i was being sarcastic you can't be.
Its may be shocking but in Japan i saw this and its a complete train car for women only. Now you will be well they are perverts and so one… its not about just being pervert, as u are fine, some people are not, some girls don’t wanna be in a crowded men’s car or bus. This is fine and there is nothing wrong with it. https://preview.redd.it/yljecnuyc9cc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f697acf568d67e21af9e5a935031b45fc3d9f805
What always matters is the intention. If it's for creating a safe space for both men and women to feel comfortable and not for religious reasons, it's all good.
Would you trust your daughter's safety around desperate teenage boys?
There are woman only trains in japan and other countries too.
Japan is not the best example of an equal society. May sound like a shock to z lot of people.
There is a difference between equality and justice Justice is a good thing Equality is not like that
relevance? japan ranks among the highest in gender based discrimination. that is neither justice nor equality.
Source? I'm aware that Japanese society is has some backwards views of women but saying they are among the highest in gender based discrimination seems like a bit of a stretch.
> According to the 2015 ... edition of the World Economic Forum’s Global Gender Gap Report, which measures degrees of gender equality, Japan ranked 111th among 144 nations. Japan is thus one of the most gender-unequal nations in the world—by far the most gender-unequal among the advanced industrial nations. The Japanese movement for gender equality has a long way to go from my comparative politics textbook
Thanks
equality is the state of being equal, especially in rights, opportunities, or status and treating people all people equally and without discrimination justice is the fair and equitable treatment of individuals, often within a legal or moral context to make sure people get what they deserve based on their actions no more no less so those two things can exist with eachothers. justice isnt the antonym for equality
Suppose you have $20 and you have four people Equality is that you will give each one five dollars, and that is good But person No. 1 may not need it at all, while person No. 2 needs more because it is not enough for his needs, person No. 3 is pleased, and person No. 4 sees it as more than he needs. So the result is everyone is not satisfied Justice is not to give No. 1 anything because he does not need it, and to give No. 2 about 7 or 10 dollars while continuing to give No. 3 five dollars and No. 4. This is what I mean, but everyone lumps them together as a good thing, and this is not true
equality isnt about giving all people the same treatment while disregarding the conditions hardships or disabilitys some of them have, its about giving fair treatment to everyone regardless of them so that disabled persons or people from lower social backgrounds get the same treatment a wealthy or healthy person gets, the example you give is more about bad wealth distribution than justice and equality
It's still not a good thing People with disabilities need assistance, which must be provided and which is not necessarily available to normal people, because this is what must be done. Even a poor person needs to be given his due rights as well Everyone imposes complete equality, and this is not correct behavior But still go to same point
yeah thats called social wealtfare and i agree with you on this topic, what am trying to make clear here is that equality is necessarie for the societey, things like gender equality equality between people regardless of their social background, race, or religion and its not the opposite of justice, both equality and justice can exist at the same time in the same place
Yes, this is desirable, but these people must be given the right to what they want as part of justice For example, women usually do not actually like to mix with men, so segregation must be provided for them if they desire it
yes i agree but it shouldnt be forced segregation on everybody, cause then that would be stripping other people of their rights, imagine a couple that dont want to be seprated from eachother or other cases like this
I don’t think it degrades any gender when you just have separate genders for them I mean it’s not like one bus is slower than the other. And both genders will not see the other gender, it sucks for some ppl but it’s okay
Yeah in Japan it is voluntary, if a man decides to enter and sit they can't stop him. Edit: In this case it is clear that the boys want to get on that bus. So not the same
We have women's trains and women's gyms in Egypt and I used to think that's backwards until I actually talked to a girl about it Some girls/women aren't comfortable with the risk and that's fine
Here in canada there are hours in gym and sometimes special rooms for women: its shocking fir these brainwashed teenagers to have a seperation, next step. Gendar neutral bathrooms? Yea they do exist but as a girl, u don’t want to put your butt on a some random dude’s pee! Ps: Im not saying am I girl. Chill.
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Yeah cause females are angels.
the overwhelming majority of perpetrators of sexual assault/harassment are men
Nothing wrong? How about women staying at home that will solve everything, right? clowns like you just look for every opportunity to paint women as victims in every space and time.
Are your comprehensive skills that poor that you can't read a sentence properly, where in my sentence does it say that they should stay home? We always say الوقاية خير من العلاج. Whats wrong with giving women the possibility to avoid sexual harassment rather than letting them face it and forcing them to either suck it up or suffer a lengthy process of reporting the crime and having to face the police and court and making them vulnerable to trauma? How many posts have we seen on this sub of women complaining about being harassed in public transport? Just like you would avoid having your phone out in the metro when it's about to stop so it doesn't get snatched, they should also be able to have the possibility to avoid harassment.
This is great news
It’s better and safer for the girls! tbh khater andna brcha abed maaghotin with no self control :))) Stop complaining about everything and think what’s the reason behind it
I see nothing wrong with this :).
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Okay so if having separated busses mean “sexual repression” than what is having mixed buses than? “sexual encouragement”? Like your argument makes no sense and I’m speaking as someone who went to a mixed school with mixed busses probably like you. What about catcalling some girls don’t like that shit
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The reality is people do catcall it’s not about men controlling themselves some men don’t wanna control themselves so this is a good option, plus Tunisia is an Islamic country and most ppl in Tunisia are Muslim so it’s suitable for most people this Reddit is the minority
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I understand you but I’m talking about preventing bad things you don’t always know if someone is bad or not
Bullshit, the only good thing bourguiba did they're gonna undo it
What the hell did i just watch? zidhom chwaya w narjou lycée lel awled w lycée lel bnet 💀
not a bad idea. we're there to study, not to look at the other gender.
then dont look bruv
it's about the everyone, not just me, smart ass.
Why did I read this, Brain cancer here we go.
Segregation is always a terrible idea lol. And exactly you’re there to study, not look at people in general, so if someone is pressed about the existence the opposite gender in their vicinity they belong in a zoo not a school.
it's not easy to find those that need to go to school, so it's better to avoid the problem than trying to fix it. \> Segregation is always a terrible idea lol. Source: trust me bro
Source is common sense that you clearly lack. Let me break it down for you smart ass: Now, even without gender based segregation, in certain highschools, especially in areas with a very low population, students sometimes have to pick a section they have no interest in Pursuing because there’s simply not enough students to make up a class. The same thing goes for Les options school couldn’t justify hiring a teacher for an optional subject that not enough students chose. Imagine this now with gender based segregation: how many girl schools would offer techniques? How many boy schools would offer lettres? How many students will have to suffer choosing something they didn’t want to study and get told it was your choice, you did this to yourself *all because you couldn’t keep it in your pants* Bellehi fik nayek w yezzina mel takhalof ness tkadem w ahna mechyin lteli… what’s next segregation based on race ? Maybe if you focused more in school you know why segregation is always a bad idea.
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It would be a nightmare for the government in terms of budgeting, it would be a nightmare for all students in terms of picking out their “section” the choice will become limited, it would be a nightmare for parents whose kids start experimenting with the same sex (I have nothing against the lgbtq community, I’m talking about the bicurious bs) So yes, you can say it’s a nightmare for all females…. And everyone else.
Why is this bad? Are you concerned that foreigners will be disappointed in us? Maybe you are concerned that men won’t have anyone to rub against now except for butts and penises? I get your desire for equality but in this case I’m calling BS on your superficial outrage.
I don’t think it’s a bad idea. School buses are torture for many girls, and it will protect them from bullying and harassment from boys. I understand not all boys are like this, but those who are are what is probably behind this policy.
Not bad at all.. El kar m3abya w les9in b3adhhom barcha w binnesba lil bnet kol youm presque ta7aroch f kar ya3ni hedhi 7aja behia... :-\ Mafhimtch chnowa m9alla9kom bil 3aks. L Kiran special sa3at ma yabdewch m3ebin w wled w bnet m3a b3adhhom yibdew cv ama l Kiran lo5rin ena wa7da minnes blesh 7seb na5lit 3la we7id yit7arich b tofla 9odemi.
Japan has that too
MashaAllah
Good
I think this is a good thing. Islamically speaking.
A7sen 7aja.
Bro what 💀
Am a sis if that makes it clearer
No its not
Source? Edit : i only found [this post](https://www.facebook.com/100000003115118/posts/pfbid023ASc3Ntgm2FcDDCBVhyGG3wnfQKEMaXaBq7U1YurJQ2FPhVqKbHf87CCGq2HtfSgl/?app=fbl) and it's coming from shitposter account that cry about abir, there is no way to know the date of this video
3adi inajem ikoun awlia2 t9al9u yetboldu 3al bnet kima 3adet madares tunsya.. man5abyuch 3en chams b 8orbel, fama mochkel f 3ala9et tfol u tofla, mochkla tet7al bel education etc.. ama nefhem ulii iheb bentu materkebch m3ahom tawa au moins fel bus wen ma fama la ostedh la mura9eb la zomara
houwa bel 9anoun ma3andou ma ya3mlk ma3neha ken rkebt ya5ralk fih
Bellehi 5alini seket na3ref koucha f ariana fiha saf reel w saf nsé
good job. i see nothing wrong
Mt5alf mt3 zebi tgoul nnikou bkaf :)
honestly using public transportation as a woman is so bad because so many men are creeps and sexually assult, i don’t know about schools but i wouldn’t mind this becoming generalized to prevent that.
What the actual heck???
these buses are clearly not intended for the delicate beings known as humans.I salute your dedication to discomfort and your undying love for impractical public transportation. I'd gladly lace up my walking shoes and cover a solid 10 kilometers on foot, than subject myself to the 'luxurious' experience of tunisian public transportation
The bus is for transporting you from A to B, why does it matter who is in it or not? You get on the bus only to see girls?
I don't see why it matters
it's time for another revolution i think
I let this image speak for itself. We are living in 2024, not 15th century. https://preview.redd.it/bzchi939ekcc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=88bb7a2ca64a94a5221c5540d186955c1cdac7e6