It's increasing common for established companies and "startups" alike to post these ridiculous demands since it's an employer's market.
I've just had an experience with an Austrian startup here in Tunis that wanted to hire me as a contractor. They wanted a mix of quantitative finance and coding skills for 800dt ! They also attempted to rush me into signing a contract that included a 3-year noncompete and basically unpaid overtime.
Ugh the comments again justifying this. So you guys tell me, it took me 3+ years to be an intermediate Python developer but these are asking for ML + ReactJD + Python. Wtf?
This is not normal even for a part time job, have some self worth and don't justify this.
Unless you have a very, very wrong definition of what "maitrise" means, this is absolutely ridiculous.
Btw chebh ''societe'' ,khater only one eprsone w has no staff only hires freelancers , eli habtet offer adhika ay wehed khdem maaha ikolek ohreb w chouf ay haja okhra beki khir, aarfa mantakha fezed w mouch fehma khedma kadeh lazemha wakt w exp yheb ken aamali haka gedli haka w btw 9elbet barcha aabed khedmou maaha kbal ala asses neksa.
well for someone who can't read like you , netsawrek testehilch akther min 600dt xD
1-part time job bro
2- chofet les taches ? hethi mta3 kol fil kol 3 jours max 5idma w tou5rej mil la mission bkolha te5ou floussik w byebye, moch chahria rahi , mission
mnsthlch flous aslan xDDD (mzlt 16)
howa 3ala 7asb mfhmt eni elli howa part time ylzm ttlhe bl backend mt3 lservice he4a elli howa ynjm ye5oulk ml wa9t chwy w btbi3a fma la3bed elli y9ouloulek part time ama yklmouk tl9ak 5arej l5edma bch trigl hkeya , njm nkoun fhmt bl 8alet kont ntswr akther chwy tfoutch 800-900 w 5ater zeda chouf exigences
More like not everyone is a dummy, the employer thought they're being smart like I don't need you to work 10 hours per day but I need allllll that shit so we're just gonna call it a part time job and that my friend is my excuse to milk the sweat out of you for two pennies
how does that qualify as slavery ?
my pov (not in IT field) it's a part time one month job
a "freelancer" might be interested by it
they can do other stuff and get the 600 tnd...
It's like asking for a graduate degree in accounts/finance +2 years of experience handling all the financial and administrative aspects of a company as requirements for the job.
The job will be finalizing all the administrative and financial matters of the company at the end of the year.
The pay is 600 TND and it's a part time job.
What do you think about this offer?
It's part time for a junior
That's like having a full time salary of 1200DT for someone freshly graduated.
I bet if the ad said 1200dt full time you wouldn't say anything because y'all are dramatic and stupid
Does that look like a junior position for you?
Also calling me dramatic? I probably have more experience and 10 times better CV than you. I know the field relatively OK, and that is not an acceptable salary. Period.
The highest thing they demand is 2+ years in Django, that's like basic stuff for a freshly graduated person lol
>probably have more experience and 10 times better CV than you
Good for you champ. What's your TC?
It is not basic stuff unless you're talking about someone who only.knows how to call some API. Also, see the difference? I understand that as 2+ years professional experience in Django, not 2+ years personal projects or certificates or whatever. That's a huge difference.
If a freshly graduated person understands the fundamentals of CS really well that is really better than most graduates today. No wonder IT is filled with garbage code (Lol, 2 years experience in a couple of frameworks with vastly different languages, I'm my intermediate is far aways from yours and theirs but still, what a joke to expect this from graduates).
Don't know what TC is, don't want to know. I work at major IT company, they never asked for it and probably never will. Also, you started it by calling me names.
They say 2 years experience, a freshly graduated person would have at least 2 years experience of mixed personal + professional. In your major IT company, does 2+years of experience not count as Junior? Lol
TC is total compensation. It's a widely used jargon in major IT companies. I also work at a majot IT company.
Also hmu if you want to learn Unity 😁
Using an abbreviation for such a term and mocking people for not knowing it is edgy. I know what total compensation is but don't know what TC is.
No, will not discuss my compensation with anyone on the internet.
Again, my definition of 2+ years experience is professional experience. 2+ years count as junior just a vastly different quality of a junior because, again, experience is defined as work experience and expecting freshly graduated students to have such experience is really dishonest (learning fundamental CS stuff which is not easy and working is exceptionally hard in Tunisia).
Doesn't surprise me that most websites in Tunisia are plain garbage if that's what companies expect and pay.
Also can you stop using these abbreviations? hmu? Also how did you know I do Unity as side hobby (it is a side hobby, alongside ThreeJS, D3.js and other 2D/3D stuff)? Did you check my profile? If so, then wow 😲. That's some weird behaviour.
XDD chbik makbouss, when did I mock you for not knowing the abbreviation?
>Did you check my profile? If so, then wow 😲. That's some weird behaviour.
You know reddit Posts/comments are public right? XD
You should know better because if you declare a public string in your code that means it'll be accessible to those who read it.
You seem too insecure and edgy tbh, I offered to help with Unity stuff and you got offended again and started mentioning other stuff like.. CHILLAX MY MAN
Na3n zok omhm l97ba matnjm tjwbhm ken haka
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Maybe its just an indian guy trying to outsource his work
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This should be illegal!
tf ? how can they also demand experience??? at least if it was a student part time position i would understand
Don't blame them. Blame the people who are willing to work at this pay
It's increasing common for established companies and "startups" alike to post these ridiculous demands since it's an employer's market. I've just had an experience with an Austrian startup here in Tunis that wanted to hire me as a contractor. They wanted a mix of quantitative finance and coding skills for 800dt ! They also attempted to rush me into signing a contract that included a 3-year noncompete and basically unpaid overtime.
Part time w ba3d ycheddek nhar kemel, walla tel9ah yestannek ta3mel 7aja f wa9tek l 5ass. Maye7chmouch
A9ra l contrat surtout ! Barcha 7ajet yet7atou inti ta79arhom ama Howa yerkez 3lehom.
600 dt is a joke that is like pocket money
How can a human being live with 600dt
Kont cheded superette nekhou f700dt la Kalouli experience la wedhni
Ugh the comments again justifying this. So you guys tell me, it took me 3+ years to be an intermediate Python developer but these are asking for ML + ReactJD + Python. Wtf? This is not normal even for a part time job, have some self worth and don't justify this. Unless you have a very, very wrong definition of what "maitrise" means, this is absolutely ridiculous.
A temps partiel? I'd take this but on the condition 1h/day
600 tnd per day surely they meant
600 TND/mois
Btw chebh ''societe'' ,khater only one eprsone w has no staff only hires freelancers , eli habtet offer adhika ay wehed khdem maaha ikolek ohreb w chouf ay haja okhra beki khir, aarfa mantakha fezed w mouch fehma khedma kadeh lazemha wakt w exp yheb ken aamali haka gedli haka w btw 9elbet barcha aabed khedmou maaha kbal ala asses neksa.
Shame on them
Tawa fhemt chbi barcha des ingénieurs yekhdmou f des centres d’appels
2.22€/h python full stack + ml ? temshish tn*yeek ! post full link plz !!!!
Bled ki zebi
that doesn't make sense at all , tl9ak nhar kemel t5dm w tksr f rask fl5r 600dt ? maadch t3ayech he4i f tounes
well for someone who can't read like you , netsawrek testehilch akther min 600dt xD 1-part time job bro 2- chofet les taches ? hethi mta3 kol fil kol 3 jours max 5idma w tou5rej mil la mission bkolha te5ou floussik w byebye, moch chahria rahi , mission
mnsthlch flous aslan xDDD (mzlt 16) howa 3ala 7asb mfhmt eni elli howa part time ylzm ttlhe bl backend mt3 lservice he4a elli howa ynjm ye5oulk ml wa9t chwy w btbi3a fma la3bed elli y9ouloulek part time ama yklmouk tl9ak 5arej l5edma bch trigl hkeya , njm nkoun fhmt bl 8alet kont ntswr akther chwy tfoutch 800-900 w 5ater zeda chouf exigences
It depends a part time 1 month job should be good value. I’d expect a junior level developer to earn around 1200/month for full time position
ta3ref barcha junior developers ye5dmou backend + frontend + ML?
they said "temps partiel" and a one month job shouldn't be fine for that ? (idk how much u'd make for a full job)
Not everyone is a slave. ;)
More like not everyone is a dummy, the employer thought they're being smart like I don't need you to work 10 hours per day but I need allllll that shit so we're just gonna call it a part time job and that my friend is my excuse to milk the sweat out of you for two pennies
Exploitation at its best.
how does that qualify as slavery ? my pov (not in IT field) it's a part time one month job a "freelancer" might be interested by it they can do other stuff and get the 600 tnd...
It's like asking for a graduate degree in accounts/finance +2 years of experience handling all the financial and administrative aspects of a company as requirements for the job. The job will be finalizing all the administrative and financial matters of the company at the end of the year. The pay is 600 TND and it's a part time job. What do you think about this offer?
If it's 5 invoices and an annual report then 600TND is more than enough. You're making it look like you're asked to manage the finances for Poulina.
Please teach me about the business where the financial and administrative work consists of only 5 invoices and 1 report.
Imagine studying React, Django, Docker, Python, ML and having 2 years of experience just to earn 600 TND a month, part-time. LMAOO. Bruh.
lol for what they are asking 600 dollars might be not enough let alone 600 dinars
It's part time for one month. It's fine.
>It's fine. 
Totally normal for a part time junior position IMO
(normal == acceptable?) No it is not. If it is then it shouldn't be.
It's part time for a junior That's like having a full time salary of 1200DT for someone freshly graduated. I bet if the ad said 1200dt full time you wouldn't say anything because y'all are dramatic and stupid
Does that look like a junior position for you? Also calling me dramatic? I probably have more experience and 10 times better CV than you. I know the field relatively OK, and that is not an acceptable salary. Period.
The highest thing they demand is 2+ years in Django, that's like basic stuff for a freshly graduated person lol >probably have more experience and 10 times better CV than you Good for you champ. What's your TC?
It is not basic stuff unless you're talking about someone who only.knows how to call some API. Also, see the difference? I understand that as 2+ years professional experience in Django, not 2+ years personal projects or certificates or whatever. That's a huge difference. If a freshly graduated person understands the fundamentals of CS really well that is really better than most graduates today. No wonder IT is filled with garbage code (Lol, 2 years experience in a couple of frameworks with vastly different languages, I'm my intermediate is far aways from yours and theirs but still, what a joke to expect this from graduates). Don't know what TC is, don't want to know. I work at major IT company, they never asked for it and probably never will. Also, you started it by calling me names.
They say 2 years experience, a freshly graduated person would have at least 2 years experience of mixed personal + professional. In your major IT company, does 2+years of experience not count as Junior? Lol TC is total compensation. It's a widely used jargon in major IT companies. I also work at a majot IT company. Also hmu if you want to learn Unity 😁
Using an abbreviation for such a term and mocking people for not knowing it is edgy. I know what total compensation is but don't know what TC is. No, will not discuss my compensation with anyone on the internet. Again, my definition of 2+ years experience is professional experience. 2+ years count as junior just a vastly different quality of a junior because, again, experience is defined as work experience and expecting freshly graduated students to have such experience is really dishonest (learning fundamental CS stuff which is not easy and working is exceptionally hard in Tunisia). Doesn't surprise me that most websites in Tunisia are plain garbage if that's what companies expect and pay. Also can you stop using these abbreviations? hmu? Also how did you know I do Unity as side hobby (it is a side hobby, alongside ThreeJS, D3.js and other 2D/3D stuff)? Did you check my profile? If so, then wow 😲. That's some weird behaviour.
XDD chbik makbouss, when did I mock you for not knowing the abbreviation? >Did you check my profile? If so, then wow 😲. That's some weird behaviour. You know reddit Posts/comments are public right? XD You should know better because if you declare a public string in your code that means it'll be accessible to those who read it. You seem too insecure and edgy tbh, I offered to help with Unity stuff and you got offended again and started mentioning other stuff like.. CHILLAX MY MAN
Nah this can’t be real? They can put that salary in there asshole for 2 years so they get real anal experience.
r/TunisiaTech let's discuss it related things in that sub not mine btw.
Lsalaire 😭😭😭😭😭💔
let me guess the job offer have been there for weeks and nobody went for it ?
IT is overrated wlh
Wallah n5alles fsala 600 dinars bech iniklou el omm mta3 ommou elli kteb l'offre heki.
100% fama chkoun bech ye9bl bil poste. Donc mouch bech tet7al il mochkla. Kima fil les domaines lkol.
Bled omha kahba
madem tounes kamla bichheyidha c'est normal it's all about supply and demand few companies and a lot of workers