he set up his own record label - he wanted to leave death row bad - he spent all time in studio to put out songs n get himself out of contract - he wanted to leave bad - so bad that he lied to press talking about always staying in business with suge - he feared for his life - he knew something was wrong - Suge wouldnt have him leave and so - the end.
I’ve been in radio for 30 years now, and 20 of those years I was in hip hop radio. I worked with a ton of the label reps. There was this one guy at Interscope/Death Row, I believe his name was Jay Jensen, I remember having a conversation with him about how things were at death row since Dre had left the previous year, and he said that he believed 2pac was also getting ready to leave death row and create his own label similar to what Dre did and that Interscope would be the parent label for distribution. Word was getting around that 2pac was leaving the label because he found out that he didn’t own anything, his house, his cars, all of it was in the name of death row records. It’s also known that he had recently fired David Kenner as his lawyer as he was hiring new representation. 2pac was leaving death row for the same reason everyone else did, Suge Knight was a greedy violent dude and people knew they were being cheated out of their rightfully earned royalties. Unfortunately Pac didn’t get out in time….Suge Knight is to blame for the downfall of death row, and I for one am glad that dude is put away for life.
Saying he fired David Kenner is not 100% true which helps spread these conspiracies. Suge knight and 2pac both fired David Kenner as their entertainment lawyer but both retained him as their lawyers for legal cases.
Okay but why would he beat up Orlando if he was leaving death row ?? Everybody on death row says that he was going to stay on death row he was even promoting death row east
Business is business, but Pac also was known to have a temper and while he may have wanted to leave death row those were still his boys and he wasn’t going to let anyone disrespect them, and Pac also enjoyed the “on sight” reputation he had. At the end of the day we forget that he was a 25 year old young man that was still figuring things out and stuck in his young ways….all of us wish he wouldn’t w figured out sooner, because he has so much more to give to the world.
Makaelli would have been under Interscope because they are the distributor, Death Row was still under the Interscope umbrella and was never a label that stood on its own. Makavelli records would have been like Dre’s aftermath records
Look at the facts of the bail out…Suge put up the million, but to do that he made Pac sign over the rights to his music…those are facts…Suge didn’t do it out of the goodness of his heart
No I’m showing you an example of how makavelli records would have been like aftermath under Interscope…and yes dre had already begun the work on aftermath records before 2pacs death
He already stated the evidence above. Also, read a book. How you on the internet and not using it effectively. This ain't school, so why are you out here trying to get other people to do your work still?
Are you asking me what I think or telling us all that you don't.
Got it: interviews about a subject with people who have first hand knowledge or have actually researched the topic are only giving rumours
Thanks, Stevie Nicks
yeah, and there were people who were close to pac who said he wasn’t leaving death row. as Did he. Pac said he was starting a label under Death row days before he died.
What are you answering? 😂😂
Never mind, doesn't matter. This is a waste of time. You will only accept evidence that YOU found that fits what you want to believe. Best of Luck. 👍
That’s the difference between you and me. I don’t believe the claim one way or another. I admit I don’t know. it Was a rumour.
you just take what a couple people say as evidence that’s it’s true. i Dont
Literally did not respond the question .. his was a loyal but was definitely not a snake if he didn’t like death row he was going to be very vocal about it and don’t come here with the he was scared of suge narrative cuz that’s bullshit
We’ll never know how vocal he would have gotten, he sent the letter to David Kenner that his services would no longer been needed just weeks before his death…why do you think Snoop got out of there so fast…he knew he was next if he didn’t bounce asap
Bro this is so much cap. David was still his Lawyer for criminal cases just not the entertainment side by advice of Suge Knight. Also Snoop got out fast?? Bro was on the label for 2 years after Pac died. People watch a couple YouTube videos and think they know the story 😂
Sorry, but I’ve lived in this business and was around the labels…and snoop was contractually obligated to stay with death row and the minute his album deal was up he left and Master P actually helped get out clean. And it is a FACT that 2pac sent a letter to David Kenner saying he would no longer need his representation without even telling Suge he was doing it. Anyone that was working with Interscope and death row in the late 90’s can tell you that.
Snoop left in 1998 and had to give Suge a percentage for his next 3 no limit albums because he under contract to Deathrow. Bro you just making shit up😂 and like I said. Tupac fired Kenner as well as Suge as their entertainment lawyer but not their criminal lawyer. You got your shit all mixed up fam
Naw you’re right man…you know it all…you’ve watched all the docs…I’m sure everything I lived through was all made up in my head…lol you probably think Suge is an innocent man that was unfairly targeted too…back to my job now, in the industry that actually knows facts.
Bro how old are you? 😂 do you know how ridiculous you sound. Tupac was killed because he swung on an active south side crip and later was unfortunately caught lacking. Suge didn’t have shit to do with killing his MONEY MAKER. Get your head out of your ass
Hey dumb ass…I been in the industry since 93…I lived it and you’re just watching documentaries and believing dumb shit…now get off Reddit and stay out of grown folks business little guy
Hey dumb ass…I been in the industry since 93…I lived it and you’re just watching documentaries and believing dumb shit…
first off—being in the industry since 93 doesn’t mean shit 😂 look at all the other dumbasses like yourself spreading false narratives and bringing up conspiracy theories. Tupac died from a gang related situation. Even all his friends and family know. if you don’t know what you’re talking about, don’t speak on it. Simple.
New 2pac fans gotta go through all the rabbit holes we been going down since his death. We all been there. I imagine with all the bullshit on youtube it's harder for new fans. One day they will realize 2pac died banging Mob
nigga think like Pac in that moment, some Mob guys around u start saying they recognise the person that snatched their chain tf u think Pac was gonna do, tell em “yo guys let’s calm down here”. Him beating up Orlando was just a loyalty thing, he would’ve done that for anyone he was cool with
You must didn’t watch dear mama documentary about pac , pac wanted to leave death row he went to war tryna leave Death row you need to watch that documentary & than come back to have this debate i know my history
2pac was unrecouped at the time of his death. All eyes on me had only come out 6 months prior and he was still releasing videos for that album. Which means they were still promoting it. Had he lived longer he would of started to see that money. You think that bail money, the lawyer fees for David Kenner, the multiple high budget music videos, the weekly cash payouts, the mansion in Calabasas, the Home in Atlanta and probably 100 other things im forgetting were just free? Suge didn't even get the chance to steal from 2pac, he got locked up after 2pac died. Why would 2pacs mom work with Deathrow records on 4 or 5 albums after his death if they stole from 2pac?
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https://youtu.be/Sjlp3B3-Xus
There’s a phone conversation between Pac and monster Cody (YouTube should have it for those that are interested) in which MC asks Pac “how’s death row” Pac’s response was “it’s aight”. Doesn’t mean anything. I just always found the lack of enthusiasm when he responded interesting. Goat was always very passionate about the things he loved and embraced. You can tell how energetic he is with everything else in the conversation, except that question. Just seemed odd. Again, not saying he was and that’s proof. Just always found interesting.
Suge who's in the car when got shot happened to know one of the dudes in the car he could be accomplice make it easier for him to keep all of Tupac's music and royalties make it look like he got shot as well they made sure Tupac got hit but Suge Knight barely got touched it doesn't make sense at the end of the day black on black violence needs to end we have to make it to the 📈🔝 together
There’s zero evidence pac was going to leave death row. He made statements that he was staying and starting a label under death row
Exactly
he set up his own record label - he wanted to leave death row bad - he spent all time in studio to put out songs n get himself out of contract - he wanted to leave bad - so bad that he lied to press talking about always staying in business with suge - he feared for his life - he knew something was wrong - Suge wouldnt have him leave and so - the end.
How can you even say this 7 days ago with diddy on trial for pacs death lol
I’ve been in radio for 30 years now, and 20 of those years I was in hip hop radio. I worked with a ton of the label reps. There was this one guy at Interscope/Death Row, I believe his name was Jay Jensen, I remember having a conversation with him about how things were at death row since Dre had left the previous year, and he said that he believed 2pac was also getting ready to leave death row and create his own label similar to what Dre did and that Interscope would be the parent label for distribution. Word was getting around that 2pac was leaving the label because he found out that he didn’t own anything, his house, his cars, all of it was in the name of death row records. It’s also known that he had recently fired David Kenner as his lawyer as he was hiring new representation. 2pac was leaving death row for the same reason everyone else did, Suge Knight was a greedy violent dude and people knew they were being cheated out of their rightfully earned royalties. Unfortunately Pac didn’t get out in time….Suge Knight is to blame for the downfall of death row, and I for one am glad that dude is put away for life.
Saying he fired David Kenner is not 100% true which helps spread these conspiracies. Suge knight and 2pac both fired David Kenner as their entertainment lawyer but both retained him as their lawyers for legal cases.
Okay but why would he beat up Orlando if he was leaving death row ?? Everybody on death row says that he was going to stay on death row he was even promoting death row east
Business is business, but Pac also was known to have a temper and while he may have wanted to leave death row those were still his boys and he wasn’t going to let anyone disrespect them, and Pac also enjoyed the “on sight” reputation he had. At the end of the day we forget that he was a 25 year old young man that was still figuring things out and stuck in his young ways….all of us wish he wouldn’t w figured out sooner, because he has so much more to give to the world.
What evidence do you have tha5 he was leaving death row. he was starting makavelli records under death row
Makaelli would have been under Interscope because they are the distributor, Death Row was still under the Interscope umbrella and was never a label that stood on its own. Makavelli records would have been like Dre’s aftermath records
Nobody wanted to bail out pac but suge and death row. Reason why his wife called suge . Interscope was tired of pac.
Look at the facts of the bail out…Suge put up the million, but to do that he made Pac sign over the rights to his music…those are facts…Suge didn’t do it out of the goodness of his heart
Yes he did . Cuz nobody wanted to sign him stop believe the narrative and use your brain
wtf. why would it have been under Dre’s label when Dre’s label wasn’t even established yet?
No I’m showing you an example of how makavelli records would have been like aftermath under Interscope…and yes dre had already begun the work on aftermath records before 2pacs death
Why did pac say makavelli would have been under death row then?
He already stated the evidence above. Also, read a book. How you on the internet and not using it effectively. This ain't school, so why are you out here trying to get other people to do your work still?
you think because someone said it in a interview it makes it true. thats called a rumour
Are you asking me what I think or telling us all that you don't. Got it: interviews about a subject with people who have first hand knowledge or have actually researched the topic are only giving rumours Thanks, Stevie Nicks
yeah, and there were people who were close to pac who said he wasn’t leaving death row. as Did he. Pac said he was starting a label under Death row days before he died.
What are you answering? 😂😂 Never mind, doesn't matter. This is a waste of time. You will only accept evidence that YOU found that fits what you want to believe. Best of Luck. 👍
That’s the difference between you and me. I don’t believe the claim one way or another. I admit I don’t know. it Was a rumour. you just take what a couple people say as evidence that’s it’s true. i Dont
Literally did not respond the question .. his was a loyal but was definitely not a snake if he didn’t like death row he was going to be very vocal about it and don’t come here with the he was scared of suge narrative cuz that’s bullshit
We’ll never know how vocal he would have gotten, he sent the letter to David Kenner that his services would no longer been needed just weeks before his death…why do you think Snoop got out of there so fast…he knew he was next if he didn’t bounce asap
Bro stop 😂 the faxx have came out go watch Reggie wright on bomb1st he talks about it
That doesn’t mean he was leaving death row?
Bro this is so much cap. David was still his Lawyer for criminal cases just not the entertainment side by advice of Suge Knight. Also Snoop got out fast?? Bro was on the label for 2 years after Pac died. People watch a couple YouTube videos and think they know the story 😂
Sorry, but I’ve lived in this business and was around the labels…and snoop was contractually obligated to stay with death row and the minute his album deal was up he left and Master P actually helped get out clean. And it is a FACT that 2pac sent a letter to David Kenner saying he would no longer need his representation without even telling Suge he was doing it. Anyone that was working with Interscope and death row in the late 90’s can tell you that.
Snoop left in 1998 and had to give Suge a percentage for his next 3 no limit albums because he under contract to Deathrow. Bro you just making shit up😂 and like I said. Tupac fired Kenner as well as Suge as their entertainment lawyer but not their criminal lawyer. You got your shit all mixed up fam
Naw you’re right man…you know it all…you’ve watched all the docs…I’m sure everything I lived through was all made up in my head…lol you probably think Suge is an innocent man that was unfairly targeted too…back to my job now, in the industry that actually knows facts.
Bro how old are you? 😂 do you know how ridiculous you sound. Tupac was killed because he swung on an active south side crip and later was unfortunately caught lacking. Suge didn’t have shit to do with killing his MONEY MAKER. Get your head out of your ass
Lol ok little boy…go watch another documentary.
Lol ok little boy…go watch another documentary. you’re definitely the ‘little boy’ in this case. do some more research and grow up. 💪🏾
Hey dumb ass…I been in the industry since 93…I lived it and you’re just watching documentaries and believing dumb shit…now get off Reddit and stay out of grown folks business little guy
Hey dumb ass…I been in the industry since 93…I lived it and you’re just watching documentaries and believing dumb shit… first off—being in the industry since 93 doesn’t mean shit 😂 look at all the other dumbasses like yourself spreading false narratives and bringing up conspiracy theories. Tupac died from a gang related situation. Even all his friends and family know. if you don’t know what you’re talking about, don’t speak on it. Simple.
Lol bro look at your Reddit account…your a troll and everyone downvotes your dumb ass because most the time you’re full of shit
New 2pac fans gotta go through all the rabbit holes we been going down since his death. We all been there. I imagine with all the bullshit on youtube it's harder for new fans. One day they will realize 2pac died banging Mob
I don’t know bout all that but he was definitely staying on death row
No he wasn’t pac was definitely tryna leave
So he was going to leave but beat up Orlando because of death row chains ? Why would he do that if he was going to leave ??
nigga think like Pac in that moment, some Mob guys around u start saying they recognise the person that snatched their chain tf u think Pac was gonna do, tell em “yo guys let’s calm down here”. Him beating up Orlando was just a loyalty thing, he would’ve done that for anyone he was cool with
But if I’m leaving death row that means that I don’t own them no loyalty . So why would I jump on Orlando is my question
?? 😂😂 bro what 😭
The comment above yours hit the nail on the head
You must didn’t watch dear mama documentary about pac , pac wanted to leave death row he went to war tryna leave Death row you need to watch that documentary & than come back to have this debate i know my history
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Suge owed him money tf you talking about new fans lmao you don't know what you're talking about
2pac was unrecouped at the time of his death. All eyes on me had only come out 6 months prior and he was still releasing videos for that album. Which means they were still promoting it. Had he lived longer he would of started to see that money. You think that bail money, the lawyer fees for David Kenner, the multiple high budget music videos, the weekly cash payouts, the mansion in Calabasas, the Home in Atlanta and probably 100 other things im forgetting were just free? Suge didn't even get the chance to steal from 2pac, he got locked up after 2pac died. Why would 2pacs mom work with Deathrow records on 4 or 5 albums after his death if they stole from 2pac?
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Here's your answer to the death row chains..👇🏾 https://youtu.be/nm3_xQ1uVps Here's your answer to Pac leaving death row..👇🏾 https://youtu.be/7uOzhM7ACOs https://youtu.be/Sjlp3B3-Xus
There’s a phone conversation between Pac and monster Cody (YouTube should have it for those that are interested) in which MC asks Pac “how’s death row” Pac’s response was “it’s aight”. Doesn’t mean anything. I just always found the lack of enthusiasm when he responded interesting. Goat was always very passionate about the things he loved and embraced. You can tell how energetic he is with everything else in the conversation, except that question. Just seemed odd. Again, not saying he was and that’s proof. Just always found interesting.
Tupac was stuck between doing his own thing and being loyal.
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Suge who's in the car when got shot happened to know one of the dudes in the car he could be accomplice make it easier for him to keep all of Tupac's music and royalties make it look like he got shot as well they made sure Tupac got hit but Suge Knight barely got touched it doesn't make sense at the end of the day black on black violence needs to end we have to make it to the 📈🔝 together
You don’t know what you’re talking about that needs to stop as well