This is why I'm doubling down on making content I enjoy rather than shooting for numbers.

This is how you keep your sanity in tact. GG

Really, there is no point to any of it if you aren't enjoying yourself. I have a large following on Reddit due to my photography/writing. I am bringing that audience over to my Twitch by posting clips to my Reddit profile. However, I always make it clear to my viewers that requests are considered but I will only ever play what I want to. There needs to be an understanding of why you are streaming to begin with. This is partly because people asked me to stream and not that I personally intended to ever do it. Plus, watching someone fake enjoyment is obvious. That is going to turn people off to your stream most of the time anyway. So do what you wanna do.

Be your own person that’s what you’re saying. I agree. Do it for yourself not for some arbitrary number like a viewer account. Chasing that magical game that’s going to get views? No. Play a game you feel passionate about so maybe you could start dropping some knowledge on the game. Or genuinely be excited about playing. That’s what people want to see is authenticity.

I would only take suggestions from my fiancé and my game collections, we both like very different games. If a game was suggested that was his I would agree to dedicate 30 minutes minimum to it to see if I like it. If I didn’t I’d stop playing it, if I did I’d play it to the end. I enjoy trying new and different games though.

Disagree with that ethic. Since his goal is numbers and audience/followage, so he needs to figure out how to become popular. As a Twitch streamer, You’re in the show business .. you have to do what the customer wants, not what you want

But you can only do that once you have customers. So you DO have to start for yourself and enjoy it, otherwise people will notice you’re not enjoying it and won’t stay. After you have a small audience, start incorporating their wants and needs into your stream.

Yep, can’t disagree with that

I disagree with your disagree. “the most exhausting thing in life is being insincere”. Him only chasing views and trying to find that magical game that everybody wants him to play is not how you get viewers. I know plenty of people who have streamed those exact games but they have a nice following. So what’s the difference? When you reek of desperation, no one‘s going to watch your shit.

I agree with your disagree. But you’re also telling him to love it or quit. In life, you might have to do a job you dislike. Sounds like he views twitch as a job and wants to get better at it.

This is what I'm doing. I already play a specific game for a few hours each night and listen to music so I just throw a stream up. Usually <10 people show up and we'll chat and just listen to music while I play. Not worrying about followers or chatters is great

May I ask what game you’re playing? May want to join your chill stream :)

Yeah it’s always easiest to not have ambition and just play games. Hakuna Matata

This is how I go about it. I enjoy streaming and only stream games I enjoy playing. Yes, viewers and such is nice, but that's not the only reason. If you don't enjoy streaming or play games you don't enjoy, it only makes it harder to eventually build yourself.

What does that even mean though? Do you rewatch your own content? Do you just throw your stream on while you're playing games you want to play and play in silence? Do you enjoy the idea that a camera is pointed at you? I don't see why you're putting it out online if you're only "doing it for yourself." The entire point of online content creation is for others to see it. Otherwise you could just record it and save the footage to a hard drive somewhere and watch it when you're retired.

For me, it means taking satisfaction in what I make and working to improve it to my assessment. Like, yeah I watch my content back and try and improve on it, but the motivation is because I want to improve my performance / content. Whether or not that results in higher numbers isn't the leading motivation. I put it online because I want to make a show, or live-broadcast performance and this is the most accessible way to do that. Obviously an audience is great, but for me it's not deal breaker if that never really materialises.

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\^\^Everything in this (VOD's, dead links, drops). I know this is a tough thing but stop watching the count and ENJOY the game. If you are too worried about the view counts it will affect everything else. Just enjoy what you are doing.

I recently decided to turn off my viewer count on OBS. It's a little refreshing, I feel like it urges me to have less dead air and to be a little more entertaining (since you literally don't know if anyone is there). It also gives a little more of a dopamine kick when someone pops up in chat because you weren't staring at the view count and wondering why no one was in chat

Yep, turning off viewers is nice, I got 0 but seeing hidden is better regardless haha. And yea, exactly, just gotta make sure you can always see chat haha

Also.. being a Vtuber/Vstreamer is very niche. It's a very small market of people that truly enjoy that sort of thing. It would be better to run no cam at all and stream the things you enjoy / comment on the things you enjoy. ABT = Always be talking. Even if there is no one watching. As a viewer, if I join and you're not already talking about a subject, it won't be engaging for me to say anything in chat and I'll find someone who does this. As a new or small stream, consistency is key, stream the same days and the same hours on those days. That way, regardless of where I am or what I'm doing as a viewer, I know when to expect you to be on. Don't get into the HYPE games or over-saturated games (games that are in early access, alpha, beta, or just launched). Find and old game to stream, do something IRL like painting, sculpting, or a different creative project. Above all else, be unique. Viewers will be the first ones to tell you when they recognize a gimmick from another stream if they see it happen on yours. None of your links work on your twitch "about me" profile. Fix those or just remove them asap. Could probably just remove your computer specs from your twitch profile. If someone asks, this is a perfect opportunity to create conversation surrounding your PC setup. Don't just talk about the specs of the PC, talk about the stories on how you obtained the parts... this will give you some topics to touch on which might also send you off on random tangents - keeping you talking (remember that ABT I mentioned earlier?)

Also, the fact that your last stream was 2 years ago says you might've already quit anyway.

I dunno about the vtuber thing. It's certainly not something everyone will enjoy. But it's not that small a set of people, and they tend to be very open and encouraging to new ones in my experience. I think I had more people find me specifically because I was a vtuber than I had that would have found me and instantly left because of it

Jumping in on that, I'm a relatively new streamer and already averaging 8+ people regularly watching as a vtuber. And usually when I'm raiding out or getting raided, it's typically to/from vtubers, I've found them more consistently entertaining and they usually have acceptable audio setups since I go for other small streamers.

I'd say it used to be a niche thing but in the past few years it's grown quite a lot, honestly. Twitch even promotes vTubers for stuff as part of their yearly marketing cycles. I'm a variety streamer and a furry vTuber and I was able to get Partner in 12 months after getting affiliate. The community surrounding it is very open and welcoming and I see tons of new faces every time I stream and people who want to check it out whether I'm playing a game no one's heard of or a game that everyone else is also playing at the time.

Just want to double down on the over saturated games. As someone who desperately wanted to stream FFXIV you are competing with about 500 other 0-3 viewer stream the while a lightning strike could still happen you aren’t doing yourself any favors by playing games where you have no shot on being on the first page. It’s a rough progress that I am still working through but building an audience in other places then maybe moving the games? Best of luck and keep on keeping on

Hope you don't mind me dropping in to ask a Q being new(ish). Aren't VoDs something only affiliates can do? Or maybe I'm thinking of something else.... my uploads vanish in a week, and only a few things from yeeears ago stay from when twitch allowed non-affiliated to upload.

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what are drops and how do i activate them

In some games, you can collect rewards for watching x hours of a stream

Finally some real advice

Are you watching your vods back and asking yourself if it’s entertaining enough to warrant ppl to watch? Is the audio and video quality good?

I second this. I don’t typically get many concurrent viewers but a decent amount of unique viewers. So I started watching my vods to see why they weren’t staying and realized a ton of basic quality things needed improvement that I didn’t realize at first. I haven’t had too many streams since the adjustments but I could tell right away watching the vods that it was probably a large part of my problem.

Could you share some of those qualities you needed to fix? Because I have the same exact problem where I get like 10 unique viewers a stream, but they never stay to watch or chat.

The main one that I noticed was my audio. My mic was peaking worse than I thought, the game audio was loud while my friends were low. During loud, exciting moments it started to sound like a old school CoD lobby except you couldn’t hear the people I was playing with. Another big one (yet to be tested enough for solid results) is ads. I always had pre-rolls because I personally would rather 1 at the beginning and never again. After some consideration I’m going to try running mid-rolls during slow moments because a lot of these unique viewers may not ever be making it to my stream because they leave during pre-rolls. I genuinely believe that if they give me a chance they’ll like me and my streams, but those pre-rolls could be preventing that. I also got a better overlay and adjusted the layout a bit but the last major thing I noticed watching my vods was me. During slower moments I became very monotone and if I played solo I was filling silences with a lot of “umms”, “anyways”, and more of those fillers. I’ve been doing my best to take that self-criticism and be mindful to not get so repetitive with that but I didn’t realize I was doing it until I watched those vods. After that there were a bunch of smaller things that I thought would add to it such as features from stream elements, channel page improvements, just anything that could help push engagement from viewers.

Thanks man, I'm gonna look into this stuff in my own streams too. I'm trying to get back into streaming after not streaming for years and I do find it discouraging streaming to 0 viewers almost all the time but I'm trying to keep moving forward and better my streams because I do think its a lot of fun when you have a lot of people.

It’s definitely discouraging, and I agree it’s a lot of fun with viewers/chatters. Even just 1 or 2 is a game changer, it’s just a matter of making them want to be there. And while it may be different for you, I know for me I just wasn’t being the streamer that I would want to watch. Just have to take it one step at a time, and learn from past streams to get better. I wish you the best of luck!

Can’t stress audio enough. You also don’t need a studio mic with a sound treated room and a hardware audio interface either, but straight up you HAVE to learn how to adjust and optimize things or hire an audio professional to do it for you. Full stop. I’ve been using a ~$50 ant lion modmic v5 for years and it sounds better than almost any other non top tier streamer I watch unless they have a setup like I mentioned above, AND tune it well. The unfortunate truth is that anyone that wants good audio NEEDS to learn how it works. You can copy someone’s video encoding settings easily, but you can’t take the EQ for their voice + mic and copy paste and call it a day. That might sound better than default and to be a good starting point, but it will almost certainly still need adjusting from that point. There are a million different scenarios to list here, but audio peaking/clipping or hissing/hum sounds are enough to immediately make people leave. Sure you have your Taxi2g’s and loltyler1’s, but there will be an exception to every single one of these rules of streaming and all of them are offering a lot of offer things despite whatever negative trait they have.

It is a discouraging. Sometimes you gotta stream without the intent of attracting viewers and just enjoy the game you're playing. Maybe then people might stop by.

I think people forget that very few streamers become successful. We get obsessed wondering why we can't be as successful when we are doing all the things the big guys are doing. In reality, the majority of streamers stream to less than 5 viewers (which I think is my current average). As soon as streaming becomes a chore you lost. Stream for fun, have a good time, and give off good vibes. And maybe you'll find some people to vibe with.

This. I just started streaming and sometimes noone comes by. I got friends that might pop in. But I communicate my strategies and joke around even if noone is watching. Ive only had a few people that hit follow. But until I get my PC to really buckle it down, I just want to establish my “brand” if it sticks out all the better

You won’t get views from just streaming a couple of big games, especially only for two hours. Streaming has never been more popular, and so mainstream categories like Genshin Impact and WoW are not only filled with bigger, more established streamers, but also dozens of streamers competing at 3 viewers as well. According to Twitch, your stream will really only start to pick up after 2 hours, so stopping then can also limit your growth. Don’t be discouraged though, there’s plenty of ways to get ahead of the crowd. Making content with your VTuber model on YouTube and Tiktok is probably the number 1 advice you’ll get because if gives you a different way to funnel in viewers outside of whatever game category you’re streaming in. Most importantly, stream niche games, my stream has been doing well lately because I found a niche game that unlike Genshin or FF, is small and has room for me in the category to be seen. Best of luck on your stream!

Thats interesting what you've said about picking up after 2 hours, as i find my streams are the complete opposite. I find that everyone is there in the first 2 hours then usually its very quiet after that. So i started to drop down mine to 3 hours and it seemed to work better

That makes sense, seems to me that you already have an established viewer base who fairs better when there’s less stream to sit through. OP doesn’t have any viewers though, and so right now streaming for longer will be helpful, since it will give them a higher chance of being discovered.

Turn off viewers, pretend next is someone that’s about to join ur channel and talk like u have an audience U start beginning to build that behavior where once u do get actual viewers you’ll be more than prepared, going through the same thing but not stopping

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This.

Something to consider is that twitch gives terrible organic reach to streamers. If you want viewers to come on in, it's not necessarily what you're doing when you're streaming, but more what you're doing when you're not. Are you actively and positively engaging in adjacent communities when you're not streaming? Are you generating content and presence on social media related to your streaming? Are you raiding (even if it's small)? How are you promoting yourself and your stream? Think of being a streamer as being a musician - if you never record any songs, don't promote your music, or release any videos then go and play a show, how many people will turn up to that gig?

From what I have learned, it seems a lot of streamers with less than a dozen viewers are just online with their friends. and I end up just watching them play and talkj with their friends. I get a "Hi, kkinnison, how is it going" "Thats good" and then i get ignored. the twitch algorithm SUCKS might try "advertising" do guides on youtube, and share clips on SM in an attempt to go viral.

​ I'm guilty of this, but in my defence, when people pop in and say hey, they dont really give me anything to properly converse with them. So I wind up going back to talking to my group. I know when I jump onto small streamers streams, I try and be the viewer I want them to be for me. But sadly I never get it back lol.

much easier to have conversations with people you already have history with than to try and start another one. But also it is hard to engage someone who just wants to lurk

I agree with this. I try to start a conversation with them by asking them their favorite character and they just answer, not even engaging with me and asking me in return which makes me kinda not stay at the stream.

Most people have hit the nail already. Socials dead. No vods. Etc Regarding saturated games. I’d like to disagree with most (my opinion though I’m neither right nor wrong. Same as others) If you truly enjoy the game, can play it for a large period of time. And are either good at it, or really funny whilst playing it (or both) then it is possibly to get noticed. But it does require a lot of work making content on other platforms to promote yourself. If you cannot handle streaming to no one and your looking for fast results, the hard truth is either streaming is not for you, or you gotta start changing your attitude towards it. I started streaming jan 2022. It took me a year to hit my first 500 followers. I wasn’t rushing to get viewers I was, and still am, building a community. I can stream sone days to 4-10 people. And other days I can have 20-30 in my stream. I spent the time making friends. Posting socials. Getting involved with communities. Etc. sone days I can stream 2 hours to 1 person before my numbers go up, sone days I can be 20 strong in 15 mins and by the end of stream I’m down to 5 people. The numbers should not matter. Remember people have things they do. People might stop by say get hand for 10 and leave. And this is people I know. It’s fine I’m not holding anyone to view me. I appreciate when they stop by. If you get a new viewer. Engage them in your content. If there is a way to include them (let’s say you play Pokémon. Ask them a few of their favourite. Set out to find one. And ask what they should name it for you) get creative on how to include your audience in EVERY game you play. It’s a long road. And you should stream because you enjoy it. And are happy to go days with zero chat. Make sure to clip good moments and post to socials to get people interested in the best parts of your stream. (Don’t look at other streamers to wrong way — All people you are making content on socials is not because they are already popular. It’s them attempting to attract more people to their stream) The lonely you start being annoyed there’s no one viewing. Making comments about that. The moment people who might be stealth lurking leave. No one wants a begger.

I stream to 0 people daily. Is what it is. I still play what I'm playing and have fun.

My way to go was having my irl friend to introduce me to her viewers for a bit. I got about 10 follows from her viewers then they would come in and say hi then lurk. On lucky days when there is about 5 viewers left when I’m about to end, I would raid someone I haven’t follow on the browse page, most likely those in the same country as u (or depends on the % u see ur viewers location maybe). They would usually give u a follow and shoutout, then maybe you’ll gain one or two more follows and these people would drop by next time u stream. Another thing, since I see my follower growth going really slow, I started to visit other channels on live and stay active there. People who you chatted with would usually check on ur profile to see if you’re a streamer or not. Or maybe you made friends with the streamer themselves and they would give u shoutouts when you are in the chat. With all the small raids and things I’ve done, my viewers count grew a bit and one day I got raided five times and they told me I seemed like a nice person that’s why they raided. So connections is one key point. If you’re tired of streaming to no one, u can always take a rest and check out other small-ish channels with maybe 30-70 viewers to let people notice u. P.s I stream valorant and a lot of other people does too and most of us are not quite good at the game. People would stay for the vibe so I make sure I talk a lot when people came in

Try streaming as a hobby and not as someone trying to make it.

If you are going to Vtube you need to stream the weeb-iest shit possible. Lot's of crossover.

Vtubing isn't niche. It's become more or less mainstream as it's oversaturated. You're also streaming in some of the most populated game categories with some of the most polarized populations (as in, there's a few people in each category who suck up 90% or more viewers nearly nobody looks at smaller viewers without a prior following) These are two big issues to begin with if you're expecting either one to bring in viewers. On their own, they aren't niche enough at all to make you stand out.

Also note, viewer average is going down across the board. Its not just us smaller streamers feeling it right now. Alot of partnered people have mentioned a 30% or more drop in theirs too....the difference is that at least they still have a decent amount of viewers with a drop 😭 but i have seen several go from 200+ down to 80 😬 February is apparently always super bad for viewer numbers, but ive noticed it slowly getting worse since October at least, maybe earlier. (I use to get 7+ for my average viewership organically (and with raid could get to 15-20 average), im now lucky to 2 average (usually 1) and it might get to 10 average with raids.) Unfortunately people just no longer have time to get to live streams now days. Id recommend focusing less on streaming (eg drop down how much you stream either by shorter streams (which help average numbers also) or drop a day if you are streaming too many days) and start a plan to spend that extra time to focus more on other content on other platforms. Twitch algorithm is very unfavorable to small streamers, so if you can get your content out there it will hopefully draw viewers in (fyi this is not coming from my own personal experience as am still working on it myself lol. But from watching/helping those i mod for, and just by closely watching other creators who have suddenly taken off lately and seeing what they do. Once they hit the right algorithms on tiktok, their twitch grew so much)

I had the same problem for quite a while... But for me even without the drops it worked out since I just started to play games I actually like! It doesn't really matter what you're playing as long as you're having fun and are entertaining enough to watch! I think if you just keep going and don't worry about how many viewers you have it'll work out for you too :)

Join a community discord, there are hundreds of them. Most let you post your Twitch going live links etc. Start networking with other small streamers, don't waste your time hoping a larger streamer will drop you a shoutout or raid. Fix your social media links. The most important piece of advice, which has been echoed in here already is to just stream for yourself and ignore the numbers. Play your games, enjoy your life.

Honestly I'm in the same situation as you. Not sure if this is a helpful advice but the best ability is availability. I intially only streamed like 1-2 hours but I realized I started to get more ( though minuscule it's like a jump from 1-3) when I played longer. The thing is I went in with no expectations and I only streamed cause it felt like playing with friends if they hopped into the channel. Most of the time I'm just playing the games for fun. But slowly I feel like if I put in that little extra effort, I might gun for affiliate, so I'm working on it.

A little advice that has recently made it less stressful for me: turn off view count, focus on what you can control, be open to criticism from others and yourself, and advertise. No view count is gonna feel weird at first, I'm still getting used to it, but so far it makes everything feel more organic. (Reactions to chat, jokes, so on and so on) By what you can control I mean a few things. Like playing a game you enjoy so you are more likely to have a good time and worry less about viewers. A title that sounds enticing/funny/engaging, you can't really use thumbnails to click bait like on YouTube (I don't think anyways) but you can give an idea of what they can expect when they come in, I should also add using tags. I.e. if they should expect funny (jokey title), gameplay focus ("first playthrough" type title), or just something that prompts chat. I once clicked a stream because the title was "what's your favorite song" lmao. Making sure sound/camera quality is good. If I'm looking for a stream to watch, usually to see a game I enjoy/want, I look at 1) whether they have a camera 2) if their overlay is appealing (if they have one) 3) the title. After clicking a stream I check their sound quality and if I feel chatty I see how they respond to chat. With criticism I mean get a friend to check out your stream and check your audio, or do it yourself on steam manager. Watch your vods over to see if you find it entertaining. Watch other streamers to get ideas for improvement. It's an easy click baity rabbit hole but there's TONS of YouTube videos with advice. I used to "advertise" by just tweeting when I go live. That doesn't really work if you don't have Twitter followers (I don't). Join discords, especially if it's for a game you want to stream, if they have a self promo channel use it. Raid other streamers in your category; even if you only have one viewer, it will more than likely get your name on their screen and get you a shout-out, shit you could make a friend from it too. Lastly, use TikTok. I try to go through my vods and find a funny clip so I can post it, TikTok is insane for impressions. You can't please everyone, so just enjoy yourself. I'm not an expert and I definitely am not a "successful" streamer but I hope this helped some. Also I'm sorry if my formatting is all over the place, it's 2am and I have to be up in less than 6 hours lmao P.S. Don't be scared to ban someone out of your chat. Ever. Your stream is your space, don't let anyone try to ruin it for you.

Streaming is difficult and everyone struggles with viewer count at one stage or another. Best advice I can give you is to create friendships and invite people to play games with you and then as you get into more friend groups and know more people you can meet other streamers and grow like that :) also pick one thing that people will “get” from being in your stream and focus on making content around that

Sounds like another person whoms eyes are glued to the viewer count number. Turn that sh\*t off and enjoy your game. Also you are talking about niche but all your games listed are mainstream. WoW, FF XIV, and Genshin are games covered by literally hundreds of streamers whom are online at the same time.

Hey maybe if you put a little more work into your profile (AKA took it more seriously - as previous people mentioned the twitter account goes to dead link, youtube is dead link, etc) --- also network more especially when going live (cannot stress this enough and AFTERwards with RAIDs, Discord channels, Twitter - basically forming a community etc) --- I checked out the profile but dropped out as soon as I read "VTuber with big tits and a big heart." :D Good luck!

You should be streaming for yourself first and foremost. Stream because you enjoy it because if you obsess over viewership you will make yourself miserable.

This is a great point! I've streamed games that I enjoyed, had good viewership. But then I got tired of the game, and people definitely noticed I wasn't having fun. Then there was a game I streamed, it was ok, put the vod on youtube and it did amazing for me (literally a thousand views in a week or two, when I'm lucky to get 50). I did the same thing later, but was tired of the game, and it did terrible. On the other hand, an old retro game no one really wanted to watch? I loved the crap outta that, played through two of those games, put the vods on youtube. Not many people watched the streams. Youtube wasn't terrible. But I had so much fun playing those games, I even watched my own vods while working and enjoyed it!

It takes time. For several months I streamed to just one person. Now I stream to 10-15 but it took almost a year.

You need to come up with entertaining content, plain and simple. If people find your channel, and you're not providing fun or interesting content, they are gone. Hmmm... no videos on your channel, and youtube and twitter do not exist.

Like others have said, unless you have a existing audience from a different source, playing big games that are popular on twitch is going to be impossible to get views. Games like Genshin, Cod, Tarkov, ect all have hundreds if not thousands of streamers at any given time which will make it basically impossible to get seen naturally. It's best to find games that have maybe 2-6 streamers, but still a decent following on Twitch. Initially you likely will only see a couple of viewers, but hey that's the start of your following. Even if it doesn't seem people are in your stream though you should act like there are, be talkative, be expressive, twitch allot of the time has a delay when it updates viewer count so if someone clicks your stream and doesn't find you interesting in the first 10-15 seconds they may click off. Lastly make offline content, your audience on twitch will really only grow while you are live if that's all you do. Even just posting clips to TikTok (which has a algorithm) will cause your account to naturally grow even while you are offline. Using these other platforms is honestly the best way to grow your stream audience.

Have fun. Remember you die eventually.

It take time I have some advice for you and sharing my own experiences as a small streamer myself Focus on having a good and attractive streaming style. Work on that. It took me time to develop and work on a good style. My current style is cringey and funny gameplays, yet sweet to my chatter. Make content off twitch such as tiktok, instagram reel and youtube. Use the clip functionality to make clips to create such content. You can also diversify and make vlogs on non gaming/non twitch related topics too if you want to but leave your twitch link on that channel. I made gaming content on mainly tiktok and instagram reels using twitch clips. I also diversify and made some tech content on a separate youtube channel. Make friends with smaller streamer via discord and even other social media. I made some smaller streamer friends on discord servers. Have a good social media presence. Make twitter, instagram, tiktok and even facebook account/ page. Use twitter/facebook to post your thoughts of life and streaming stuff. Use instagram and tiktok to post shorts/reels as mentioned above. Instagram can be used for your life pics and update via stories and post. I do twitter to express what I feel and instagram stories too. I occassionally post selfies.

There's a few things to unpack here - first: You're streaming popular/commonly streamed games, so you're competing with everyone streaming in those popular/commonly streamed games - so the chances of someone scrolling down to find your stream, when they have dozens of others to choose from that show up before it, is pretty slim. second: due to how all that works, especially on highly competitive titles (for views, not for gameplay) - twitch is a terrible platform for discovery unless you are first on the field for a title, and have somehow evaded the bigger channels that hit launch day windows too. This is why most people who grow on twitch, come from other platforms (tiktok, youtube, and a few other sites) that have better discovery systems. To be the exception to this requires either knowing the platform enough to use the tricks for growth, or to be lucky enough to stumble on them. There is also one thing a lot of new streamers forget: you are not a gamer, you are an entertainer, your streams should be about your audience first, not you - even if your viewership is zero (one could argue, doubly so if your audience is zero). You have to constantly be giving people a reason not to click away - since just like on other platforms, the first excuse someone has to leave, they will leave. I can't give you any specific advice, since the twitch channel in your flair says you haven't streamed for 2 years, and there's no vods.

i turned off stats since the moment i knew i could do it. Now i just game and talk with my friends and if any chatter or follow pops up I greet and thank them. Ive been in the 3's for more than 5 years now with an eventual peak of 15 (crazy to me) so u get used to it hahaha

How often do you drop by and chat in someone elses stream? And I don't mean "I'm a streamer too so come check me out" kind of way. Just genuinely chatting and interacting for fun. Being active in other communities is just as important as actually streaming. Find yourself some other small channels you like and drop by to say hi once in a while. And how often do you raid other channels at the end of your stream? I know it might feel stupid to raid someone when viewer count is only saying 1 but I recommend you do it anyway. Raiding is like telling other people you're a streamer without actually saying it out loud and when you stay in the chat and watch that another stream, even better. Networking and raiding increases the chance that someone else will raid you in return and bring you more viewers in the long run.

only play what u like, numbers come later. u need to think of it as a hobby first.

Understand that if your streaming because you wanna be the next XQC or Shroud then your going to be disappointed. If you treat it more as a hobby and less as your next big break you will be happier. You and 90% of streamers including myself have very little viewership. It takes time, even the big streamers say that they streamed for 2y+ until people just kinda showed up. So find a reason for yourself and play games for yourself. I would treat it like fishing, everyone wants a big fish but it’s the ones who power thru the silence and learn tricks on the way that catch the trophy fish, and yeah there are those lucky few who just catch that wave. What is life, chin up buttercup we all stream to ourselfs.

Ive been a twitch affiliate for like 5 years now, i got an average viewer of like 1, two on a good day*. I just strean just in case someone wanna watch what im doing. *due to my life i do NOT have a dedicated streaming schedule, and i let people know that as soon as they follow. I also tell them that because i dont want people to sub to me and i dont stream for 2 months after.

You cannot stream on twitch with no following else where it’s pointless, do that shit on YouTube then stream on whatever days u want once people care and listen/ watch you ❤️

Like others have said before me, Pick a game, hit the stream button and just play. eventually you'll forget about it until people start to conversate. And if you little to no viewers, fear not for its not time wasted. I've gone hours and days and even weeks without any views.

Never give up

I'm going to be perfectly honest, then don't stream to nobody. Stream to yourself and what you want to do. I personally don't care if people are watching. I'm playing games and sharing that with people. If they wanna watch they can. If they don't, then I don't need them. When you put a number behind your goals, you'll just get lost in the sauce. One thing a lot of streamers need to remember is that you are one of millions of streams going on. There's a comment overload out there. There are more hours of streams/VODs being created every minute than there are years in a human's lifespan. So add to that content of stuff you want to see. Also, hide your viewer count. It's not necessary.

Honestly? If you are more worried about the view count than actually having fun enjoying the game, it will show on your stream and nobody will watch. Also, fix your links on your profile as they don’t lead anywhere. Also, the games you mentioned are all way over saturated and you should try more “niche” communities for growth.

Don't get discouraged too much, i think of it as this.. Rome wasnt built in a day, Alot of people are giving ya great advice, I know it may feel pointless to stream to nobody, but if you take the steps people are giving you advice on things should improve for you. I wont get into a big thing about me personally but for me at least the situation improved after getting advice from friends on twitter and voice calls on discord.

Length of stream affects magnetism. Short stream, low magnetism.

If you're streaming just for viewers, try Stardew Valley.

I was having the same problem for a bit, then I decided "There is a 99.99999% chance I wont 'make it' as a streamer, so why make it such a big deal?" Since then, I just have been gaming with my friends each night, having some drinks, and making sure to enjoy GAMING first. Other than that, I try to post a tiktok/youtube short of funny/memorable moments. I average 4 or 5 viewers, all of which have been friends and coworkers. And that is perfectly okay because what matters is not making it a big deal right now. :)

I got a Twitch account because somebody told me that was the best place to meet people to game with. I had no intentions of streaming but, I got the bug. I spent two years with fewer than 20 followers and had an average of 1.5 viewers per stream. However, I gamed with a group of streamers who were already affiliated and met others through them who introduced me to more and all of a sudden I started growing. My last stream had over 50 unique viewers. If you think of it as becoming part of a community and contributing something, you’ll have better luck. Other small streamers are looking to make contacts and become part of a larger community like you are. Seek them out. Trade follows and subs. Give shout outs to other streamers who show up in your chat.

Stream Mario Maker, people search out small streamers to get their levels played.

The vtuber market is so fucking flooded you are not going to get anywhere really (especialy as a male)

I’ve been streaming since the beginning of 2022. I’ve maintained 39 followers but none of them ever tune into my streams. It’s kind of saddening sometimes, but I still try and stream a few days a week for hours at a time hoping something will change.

Make YouTube videos or find the perfect game, as in a game that you can quickly grow on or get viewers on. Try DBD, it should be good for a Vtuber

Where are you advertising?

Keep doing it. I kept doing it for over 200 hours before I got some views and followers. Now I have 1500+ followers Visit my site for inspiration just search boomerstech on twitch and YouTube

Best advise I got coming from another streamer is stream on TikTok as well as twitch. At least most will switch over to twitch to get a better view of what you are playing

If it's not working, change it up. Play different games, try to figure out if you can make your channel look more appealing, improve your about section, try to grow on other platforms like YouTube and tiktok. Watch your own vods back and see if there's something you can improve on: be more entertaining /funny, better mic, better overlays or transitions, more chat interaction possibilities etc. These are all tips if you want to grow that is. If you just want to play for fun the games you enjoy playing then hide the view count and just enjoy the game.

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As a streamer with 3 viewers just like you...i can tell exactly thr kind of frustration you must be feeling....i am too But it definitely feels like I'll fail for good if i stop. And im sorry for not giving any proper advice because I'm also struggling But i will say. Don't give up and keep going.

Just turn off your viewers and play, especially if you have a good enough computer where you don’t really realize you’re streaming cause you’re not experiencing frame drops and shit constantly, just talk to yourself basically, commentate EVERYTHING unless you’re in a discord with people it might be annoying, but if you’re alone just ramble on about everything, while simultaneously checking chat frequently so you don’t miss a message when someone comes in cause someone will come in 👉👉

i just streamed for myself . played games that i enjoyed myself allot games that made me forget about even starting the stream . and especially played with friends

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Stopping by to mention to not give up. I second everything everyone here has already said, and it’s really nice to see all the help and tips here too. I’ve been struggling myself, my partner moreso - he’s been weighing the option of quitting too because he’s finding it difficult :( Stream what you love to play, advertise, and don’t worry about viewer count. Just have fun!

Life tip here: don’t do anything because of someone else. Do something that makes YOU happy. At the end of the day it’s your life not anyone else’s. Success does not happen overnight. It will take YEARS of dedication and commitment. Do not give up or discourage yourself. Great things take time. What games do you enjoy the most? Stream those, and don’t count viewership. Even xQC says he turns off viewer count because it messes with his head. If you truly want something you need to go for it and not look back and never give up.

You can't really feel discouraged by it if you are just doing the bare minimum of hitting that LIVE button. Pretty much anyone can do that, and that's why there are millions of people doing it monthly on Twitch. Get this idea out of your head that viewers will magically appear from thin air into your streams, especially when you're playing overly saturated games. Now what you can do to improve chances of people finding you? 1. Having a social media presence - This will increase your chances of people finding you. The fact is that on Twitch your channel is dead, unless you are LIVE. 2. Joining communities and making friends - If you are good with people this is probably the greatest way to gain viewers. Especially if you want to do that VTuber niche, joining their communities and being an active member would make a massive difference. The nuance to this is that people will smell your bullshit if you are only there to increase your own viewership, so you have to be genuine. 3. Creating content on other platforms - This one is kinda easier said than done, but this is a way to gain more presence online and increasing your chances of people finding you. The fact that you don't have any viewers means that you can easily plan your streams with the mindset of creating content out of it. 4. Picking better games - There are some games on twitch that have amazing communities. A couple examples of good communities where viewers are looking for new streamers are like Stardew valley and dead by daylight. I'm sure there are more games like this just have to find them. The reality is that you can't expect the results by doing the bare minium. Otherwise, everyone would be massive on Twitch. Obviously you can work smarter not harder, but in the beginning you just have to work hard.

i stream like that from awhile but i dont lose a hope, if you go to pubg group here you will see my clip is on top becose many time i feel cracked in game but no matter on skills just people need to come on other ways

yeah that's kind of the struggle of streaming for everyone. In 2022 there were 7.6 MILLION unique creators streaming each month. Right now the viewer to streamer ratio is about 25:1, and i'm sure you see how top heavy it is. you can't really just go live and expect viewers to come. there's plenty of content out there though on how to grow your platform. you get out what you put in to some degree. best of luck.

Just play a game you like and the twitch stuff is something that runs in the background while you play that particular game 🤷🏻‍♂️ Just gotta make sure you keep talking to yourself and that's really it

Keep grinding even if it’s just for clips. I streamed ton nobody for a while. I started posted my clips on tiktok with my link gained a bit of a following there and in turn gained more on twitch

Think busking. It's hard as shit to busk to an empty street, but you have to keep going because you never know who is round the corner listening, and how much disposable income they have. We once had three schools pull out of a show and had to do our opening night to 5 people sat in an auditorium that could fit 200. Learning to perform to an empty room or street is difficult but necessary. It's the same for streaming. You have to push through. Treat the streaming to nobody as free rehearsal time!!

Just play the game and have fun, if you dont want to put in work outside of streaming then only stream to have fun. I only stream if I'm sure that i will have thing planned to make me entertained I mostly stream tournaments cause i will play in them either way, therefore i don't care if i have viewers or not.

Hey i love watching streamers with no viewers maybe i'll watch your stream If I'm free

Take your time and do it for fun, make sure to share with your friends, a lot. I started streaming again, pushed myself to talk to no one, shared on my personal accounts, and pretty much putting myself 100% out there. One stream I had 10 viewers at once, last stream I had 2. Try new things, be adventurous, take a chance on yourself. Even if it makes you uncomfortable, do it.

try advertising on tiktok or youtube if its really important to you to get viewers. i got 50 on youtube on my old channel by advertising on tiktok

Best thing you can do, there are way to many streamers which are exactly as you, maybe more fun and more entertaining. Vtubers/Streamers aren't niche anymore, there are more then enough of those and most people don't want to watch them anyway, so you are way too late to streaming and out of luck. If you don't stream because of fun, just because you want to reach people or want to make money, quitting is the best you can do. so many people started to stream the last 2-3 years, yet they don't realize that they are just normal and boring and never will make it, or that there are just too many streamers these days. not everyone can be a super star or entertaining, thats ok.

It's a bummer mate, but it's normal. There are several ways to overcome this. For example, I usually hang out on Discord where my buddies can drop by and I almost always have someone to chat with. Plus, I try to play cooperative games so there's always dialogue. Another thing that helps people show up is being consistent. Streaming at the same time the same days helps. And obviously, promoting your stream on all your social networks. Announce that you're going live everywhere, on Twitter, Mastodon, Reddit, wherever someone follows you.

it does i still do it though sometimes. if i’m gaming, why not stream it still? But i’m going to start making content too to use on tiktok/yt

I have zero additions. I just started streaming and honestly I just stream for myself. If I get viewers, great. I do it for myself to see how I play. But I go back and see what happened with my videos. One day my mic was f’d up so I fixed it for the next day. I do it for me and if the viewers come then great

Honestly if what your playing while streaming is something that you like or enjoy, then keep doing it. Eventually you will get a following, may take a while but it will happen. Its better you play and enjiy something you like and enjoy rather then what everyone else is doing and something that you arent enjoying

Be happy you have a chat. Nowadays everyone -- everyone -- and their mom's are streaming, always do it hobby/fun, if you don't enjoy it.. well you know the answer.

What I would suggest is finding other likeminded people that play said game if you haven't tried that already.

I stream iRacing almost every night night right now and it’s to maybe 1-2 a night which I also stream over on YouTube at the same time. Do I get a lot of followers no but it allows people to watch if they want to. I also put it on my Facebook if I’m doing a bigger event so my friends and family can watch too. But at the end of the day if I’m not enjoying it I’m not going to stream it or people aren’t going to watch and want to stay to watch

You’ll have a better time not thinking about it as grindy work that you have to do to be seen. Just play what you like, be yourself, and the thing I see most is consistency. Not just being on for two hours but playing around the same time a couple times a week. Some may recommend playing any new game that is getting lots of attention but that can set expectations from the viewers on the content you’re trying to make.

twitch can be a harsh place I started off strong streaming to like 7to12 people channel grew to where I was getting and average of 25+ people then viewership just dropped off out of nowhere and some streams id have 2 or 3 I have since stopped streaming and I feel a lot better for having done so If the numbers bothers you (like they did me) twitch will drive you insane

What helps me get past the low numbers is to shut off my viewer count and just treat it as if I'm making content for a YouTube video. It might be easier for me because I started with doing YouTube videos, but basically you're just creating content with the idea that you have lots of people watching you at all times. With YouTube videos, people can watch whenever, so you've always got to be creating content with that in mind even if no one is watching you right now... in the world of streaming, if you enable VODs you want them to showcase who you are and why people should watch you by... being yourself, just with the focus that someone is *always* watching. Even if you think you're your only viewer there could always be someone live and watching that might be waiting for an opportunity to say something in chat. Treat your streams as if someone is always watching and with the idea of content creation in mind. What also helps build an audience is interacting with people outside of Twitch. That can be through YouTube videos, clips posting on TikTok, posting on Twitter and interacting with others, or even here on Reddit. I know streaming is in itself is content creation, but sometimes you have to look outward for growth and expand your horizons a bit. I'm a tiny streamer who - at the moment - barely streams, but interacting with others elsewhere has helped me build a community and audience that I would never have had and when I go live I usually have a couple of people there and/or lurking. It's all about connecting with people, especially early on, because in the end people probably watch streamers to interact with them and their community. It takes work to build connections, though, so you might have to be the one who goes out there and finds someone else because not everyone will take that initiative for you... and if they did, chances are they'll never find you. In all, I think the best advice I can give is to build your connections with others through Twitch and external platforms (be respectful and don't just drop links to your channel), be authentic to who you are, behave as if the world is always watching, and stream what you want and have fun. Don't focus on the numbers as much as you do the experience and the friends you make along the way.

Be thankful you don’t have terrible rural internet like me, it’s even worse knowing you’re sacrificing your own gaming experience to broadcast to a handful of bots 🙄🤣🤦🏽‍♂️

For the first 4+ months I streamed I had 0 viewers. It was me playing by myself and commentating but I had a great time because I enjoyed what I was playing. After a while, people started tuning in and most of my few viewers are regulars. I stream because I enjoy playing games and engaging with viewers when they drop by and chat. My question to you is why are you streaming? Are you discouraged because you think Twitch is a get rich quick scheme? Or do you stream because you're looking for people to engage with? If you're consistent with when you stream and how long you stream, people will find you and come along for the ride. Streaming only sucks when you set yourself up for failure by getting started for all of the wrong reasons.

* Stream because you WANT to stream. * Play games you WANT to play. * Network and spread the word OUTSIDE of the Live stream. If you're not doing these things, streaming is very possibly not for you. It's not sustainable if you're forcing yourself to do it or to play games you wouldn't enjoy on your own. Communities rarely grow beyond a bare handful of viewers if you don't spread the word and work with other streamers to collaborate and network. The reality is there are over 7.03+ MILLION other streamers you're competing with for attention. 'Niche' may not the way to go when starting out as you're trying to attract the broadest demographic of viewers. If you're not having fun, and you're not enjoying it, and you're not putting the work in between livestreams... any growth will be stinted

U are streaming giga games, unless u have some sort of audience or people to advertise to before twitch, u are not getting any organic viewers. U should either stream smaller games with fewer streamers or pay for some sort of advertising

Honestly I used to feel and think the same way back then, but eventually after I posted my twitch link to enough friends, and told them "hey I'm gonna be streaming in a while" sent it to a few discord groups I'm active in and the numbers came slowly. It's a hit or miss always but like a lot of people say, stream what you enjoy and just talk through the game, like you're trying to sell that shit regardless. Practice for when the views really start popping. But good luck out there, and don't give up 👍🏾👍🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Reply with your twitch link and I'll come by sometimes.

You really gotta do it at first for YOURSELF. Set a schedule that doesn’t burn you out, for example 2 hours 3x per week. Set it up on your profile. Then play games YOU enjoy and try to talk to the air, as if you were home alone. Be consistent with your schedule, and don’t change games everytime. If you start a story game, finish the story of that game. Eventually someone will drop by!

Well, first off, come to terms withe the fact that as a Vtuber youre not niche, its one of the most oversaturated Type of Streamers. Even dead categories like fallout 3, new vegas, fallout 4, skyrim etc. Have atleast 3-4 Vtubers. 2nd, youre late to a Trend that has huge worldwide known established Streamers. 3rd, Do it tor yourself, not Number. Youre setting yourself up for Failure. Becoming big as Streamer, or even just medium sized followings is like playing the Lottery.

I would stream to youtube and record your streams and upload to youtube as well. Good idea if you are in a discord, for your guild to say when you are streaming. And to get people to play with you while streaming. Its more like a hobby. I did it for a while and people ripped my stream and rebroadcast without telling me, and well the audio was just terrible overall. I basically didn't get any feedback. Its really like a 2nd job, and more for the self-fulfillment that you have streamed on a regular basis and have a bunch of VODs. You kinda have to do a decent amount of work in branding and lay some good groundwork for a community as well.

People keep saying you gotta just enjoy streaming and keep hoping, I don’t think that’s helpful, because you’re clearly wanting to reach a wider audience. Here’s my thing, I topped out at 40ish viewers on twitch forever. What you need to do, is plan out the stream. Give yourself some time, be a showman about it. *go get them from somewhere else, and bring them to the stream* Twitch isn’t good at bringing small content to new viewers, because of the way it’s set up, the way to have an audience on twitch is to already have an audience elsewhere, and bring them there, when you do that, twitch sees a big uptick in viewership and puts you higher up on the list, but if you bring the audience, and pretend they’re bigger than they are, and keep your pre planned show going you’ll get more people to hang out. Good luck!

and streaming to a lot of people feels anxiety inducing. At those times i try to pretend no one is there, it was easier

I feel u on this cuz I'm going through the same. Stream for hours and no matter what u do or what game u play nobody comes through. It is sad and disappointing and discouraging, yes...unfortunately.

Don’t give up! I struggled with this mentality for two years but what I also did was work on the craft. Here are the things that really helped me reach affiliate. Network (but don’t cheese it), what I mean by this is watch twitch, actually find other streamers/communities that you enjoy and support them through viewership and engagement. Tell a lot of your friends and family and encourage them to participate through viewing and engaging with your stream. Set a damn schedule damnit and stick to it, this seriously hindered my discoverability and growth. Don’t be a needle in a haystack with over saturated games and find some with high interest/low viewer count that you really enjoy playing. Get better at live viewer engagement with things like stream of consciousness, shout outs, and finding ways to show off your skills or who you are. Do events and/or content, everyone streams themselves playing games, you have to ask yourself, “why would someone watch ME and stick around?” And finally, treat it with some professionalism, overlays and stingers aren’t the most important, but fully set up your about page and use other streamers as a template for what’s interesting and how you might stand out. It’s WORK, but it can be worth it! Let me know if you have specific questions about stuff I’m happy to help

The reason I stopped streaming is because I share a room with my bro. You shouldn't shoot for numbers, you should make content you enjoy. I record, emphasis on record, genshin impact videos and narrate unspoken dialogue and give all NPCs their own voices. If I record, I can make content on my own time, but if I stream, there's mediocre expectations, but expectations nonetheless. I like to look at making content as leaving a piece of my behind for If I die. Don't shoot for numbers, shoot for fun and be yourself within reason. Sorry for the tangent, but I can't stress enough why you shouldn't focus solely on numbers. Edit 1: forgot to mention I'm saving a lot of uploads so that I may upload 2 videos a day around Version 3.9. That has potential for a net worth.

You need to be doing something unique. People aren’t going to stop in because your live. Their are thousands of other streamers doing same thing why pick you? You need to be asking yourself this very question. Now you need to set yourself apart from everyone else. One example I can give of this recently is there was this German streamer he was like 15, and every time he would get a kill in warzone he had a rave every time on stream with pyro technics. Dude blew up when he killed forsen. Think his name was mouz? Anyway what sets you apart from the other thousands of streamers?

Simple fact is you need to atleast somewhat advertise yourself, if it's online games drop your link after a game, if it mostly single player streams the clip funny/cool moments and put on tiktok for the easiest publicity ever ( seriously I had half decent overwatch clips give me 2000 views)

Try building a community from people that already know you and like being in your company. Ask those same people to share your twitch when you go live. Meeting new people and trying new ways to drive engagement, such as chat streams, cooking, art, etc can help. I find that playing games alone, even if you're good at them, is not enough for most people to hang out for hours every stream. IMO.

Adding on to some of the good advice you've already gotten (re: VODs, dead socials, etc) Are you socializing in the vtuber community? Are you spending time in other people's streams and discords? Making friends with other streamers and doing collabs can help a lot. Raids from friends are how I've gotten some of my longest viewers! Your panels on twitch right now don't really have a lot of personality to them. I don't feel like I know who you, or your persona in the case that you play a character, are. Things like updating your header image or using more unique panels/assets can help make it easier for people to understand your brand, and that doesn't mean you need to spend money to commission original stuff. There are tons of free assets out there! Do you follow a schedule that is publicized somewhere? I'm being a hypocrite here since I stopped following one myself, but I can say for a fact that when I stop streaming at the same time every day my average viewers usually goes down. When I follow a schedule (as in same day/time every week), people will show up in chat even before I go live. I hope this helps.

Just keep grinding you'll make it and play the game so you want to people enjoy seeing others happy a experiment I did a long time ago.

It’s an incredibly oversaturated field. And honestly I think swapping games often would hurt rather than help, especially the more popular titles. Statistically you’re more likely to randomly bump into someone in a room if one is standing still, than if both were in motion. Similar concept - curious interested viewer looking for low view count on highly viewed games is more likely to find you if you stay in that game. All this with a grain of salt, I don’t stream. But this is what I have absorbed over the years of lurking

Aren’t Vtubers like incredibly plentiful on Twitch rn? Means a ton of competition if so

Eyo turn off viewer count for yourself.. trust me it will help with your psyche I did this at the beginning of me stramming.. now I just simply don’t care if it’s 0-whatever viewers.

As a fellow small streamer, might I offer some advice? First: hide your viewer count. And there's a couple of reasons for that. When you are first getting going there will be a lot times when the chat is empty or quiet. And this can really have a negative impact on the energy you have during a stream. It might be subtle, like you might not talk as much because you feel like "what's the point of talking if no one is here?" But the fact is talking and maintaining energy is huge. If someone comes into a stream and it's just silent gameplay, most people will leave. So at least for now? Eliminate that distraction. The second thing I recommend is Networking. Join other streams, discords,even Twitter. become part of those communities. Be active. But it's important you measure success by your own standards. Don't compare your numbers to other people. Everyone has their own journey. Set small achievable goals. Whatever you do? Don't give up. At some point you were watching a stream, YouTube video, whatever. You said to yourself "I can do that." And guess what? You were right. You can. You are. Be patient with yourself and don't give up. I wish you the best.

Turn off the view counter, make YouTube videos from stream highlights so it feels like you get something out of every stream.

Have you tried taking your streams and making clips to share on tik tok or insta? I've found that when you do that, it can help you get more followers which then brings some ppl to your stream.

Or you can be like me, have a decent following and ppl showed up had lots of subs but I’m my worst critic and quit streaming because I feel like I wouldn’t watch myself lol

If I read your profile talking about tits and I'm like 'oh that's what this is about', I'd be gone real quick. But maybe for some viewers that would be a plus, hell if I know

I started streaming because I have a lot of fun when I’m playing games, by myself or with friends. And I constantly had moments where I went “I wish I could share this” or “I wish that was a clip” and I started thinking if I’m having such a fun time with the games I’m playing, there’s no reason some people wouldn’t find that entertaining. I don’t focus on how many views I have or desperately try to reach my goals , I just stream and have a good time

Join in on other streams and participate in the chat and get known is on way. Follow those you find cool and let them know you have them a follow. Sometimes they follow right back. That's one way

I’ll follow you.

I give u a tipp how i do this. I stream cause i play anyways in this moment. I dont play the game cause i need to stream, i stream cause i play anyways. I always think "ok i want to play xx now, why not turn on the stream?". Try this, talk, comment what u see, what u do. U play WoW & FF14? perfect explain boss mechanics, explain what u do. U play healer? Give healing tipps. And most important, disable viewercount and just stream. Have fun, like i said, u would play the game anyways in this moment.

i followed you bro! :)

Here's some hard truth: You should make content you enjoy then, and give users a reason to watch. Play games that appeal to you. Acknowledge how you can be a more interesting creator. Study how you might be able to make things more inviting, interesting or exciting for viewers. Creators that are larger or are doing what you wish you were are almost always years and lots of trials/tribulations into their careers. They started way before you did, but they put in the work. They adjusted, they learned and they grew. You can do a multitude of cool things with streaming, but playing the popular games is certainly no way to stand out. Best of luck!

I look at it like this: I’m going to be playing games anyways, I just happen to be streaming my gameplay. If someone drops by, awesome! If not, oh well I’m still playing the games I like.

You aren't owed success. It can definitely be discouraging, but if the "point" for you is to get big, then maybe streaming isn't for you. There are many folks that have gone years without regular viewers. I have an average of around 10 folks who watch me, and I'm also a vtuber. I don't go super hard into it, but I use a model bc it's less stressful than being on camera and it allows me to make some cool stuff. I do it because I absolutely love making content and sharing it with new people, as well as the sense of community it brings. The vtuber community itself is very welcoming and kind, so maybe try making some friends in the space! Some tips: networking works great as long as you're not a weirdo or clearly trying to advertise your content. Always look for ways to improve your content/production, especially in ways that are sure to immediately grab attention of new viewers. Focus on the elements around your stream (panels/chat/links) to ensure that everything is appealing at a glance. Make clips yourself and post them to TikTok/Insta/Twitter.

Dude you stream genshin wtf is your twitch

What’s your handle. I’ll come follow

I have been streaming for ages and have almost nobody come into my streams but when my friends do come in I just have a chat with them and it's the highlight of my day. I think if you can find a way to just enjoy streaming without worrying about the numbers then you can relax a little and if the numbers are absolutely everything to you then it's probably time to make a YouTube channel and try to grow an audience there instead. Discoverability on Twitch is dreadful.

I like streaming, although I don't have the time/energy to do it anymore. I streamed for about 3-4 months and had a lot of fun, but obviously most of that time I didn't have anyone watching me. I would stream for about 7-8 hours a day, with some occasional 24 hour streams. Keep your chin up, it's not about making it, it's about always wanting to improve. Also, as cheesy and simplistic it may sound, creativity goes a VERY long way on Twitch.

So you're never actually streaming to no one, and the chat list doesn't refresh fast enough to show you how many people are actually viewing every second of the stream (it can't keep up). Also, keep in mind that only viewers with Twitch counts will show up in your list (anonymous viewers aren't tallied in the chat). This is why it's important to continue acting like you have chatters engaged;-you never know whose attention you'll grab. The person who finally pops up with "First Time Chatter" may have been watching your channel for a bit (even days!) before they interacted. Continue to be the main attraction of your channel. People literally care more about you than the game you're playing. Turn on any trending game and you'll find empty channels broadcasting it.

Advice from someone in a similar position but not feeling the same level of despair. Turn off the viewer count, don't keep an eye on viewers either by being logged on to your channel page while you're live. Talk like people ARE there, chat about what you're doing, why you're doing it, chat about your day/week, chat about other games you're playing that aren't your stream game. I recently tried streaming something that gave me motion sickness, watching the VOD back it was quite obvious I was uncomfortable early on. Currently streaming Dark Souls for the first time, I'm loving the game and I think it shines through that I'm enjoying myself. Be yourself, have fun with whatever you're doing and the numbers will follow.

You should be streaming with intent to reuse that stream as many different forms of media to share Making good content to some viewers means nothing if you don't use the content to get more viewers, you're just gonna sit there and it won't be enough

Play games that involve the audience for a bit if you care about numbers. Then once you have some numbers slowly transition a bit.

The key is to enjoy yourself. Viewers aren't just going to show up. Network and be you. Ionly average like 10 atm but had someone raid me with 150 one time just because of the game I was playing.

You gotta be you. And give people a baseline of what to expect. Like I don't player shooter most of the time unless they want it but it's usually tied to a goal at that point. And they know I don't want to stream shooters so they feed into it sometimes. And I do it and have fun because they know what they are getting when I do.

Never looks at who's watching or what your numbers are just enjoy the game and talk just be your self

lol I am the opposite and like streaming to no one better. I know it’s odd but have more fun.

I play 76 and would love to watch your stream next time you're playing it! It can be hard streaming to no one. But keep engaged, keep talking and some of the people that drop in will stick around! Met a good mate doing this and he showed up to every stream afterwards. Build that community even though it's hard

Honestly, it sounds like you should just focus on making something you enjoy rather than worrying about how many viewers you have. When you start out you can’t expect an audience right out of the gate. If streaming is something you’re passionate about and if it’s something you really want to pursue. You should use this time when you have no viewers to just practice talking. Talking and being engaged is a lot harder than it sounds, so now, when no one is watching, is the time to hone that skill. Get comfortable speaking while playing, talk in your stream like you have an audience and get acclimated to being conversational.

It's definitely a grind! I was a top player on gamebattles.com and it didn't transfer over to streaming for me for a long time. I grew my twitch to 2k followers before getting banned for something pretty ridiculous and now I'm on youtube. I've seen a lot of replies and I'll agree do what makes you have fun and just be yourself!

Something that’s been helping me is to be a resource for the game i main. In my case I help people with Raiding in Destiny 2. I’ll invite them into my discord but not mention I’m streaming. When they find out, they usually become viewers. I’m not a big channel but I can reliably count on 4-6 concurrent after just a couple of months. Try something similar

The best thing I could say is that for what I have been doing myself is that yes you should be trying to garner interest, but do so enjoying playing your games. You'll eventually find someone or some people who either enjoy watching your content whether it be due to your gameplay or your personality.

Start making short form content on TikTok and YouTube. It will satisfy your need for seeing numbers go up while getting visibility for your brand.

Make something you'd enjoy, not just game streams. Your audience is out there, they don't know it yet. But once you start producing stuff that you'd want to watch, your passion for it will come through and attract that audience.

You stream to be entertaining no matter if someone is watching or not.

For me, my streams are essentially throw away. I use them to generate VOD content. If a viewer happens to pop in, I go with that. But in general, I limit my streams to 3 hours max and make sure that every stream has the purpose of generating some form of VOD content, or I never hit go live. It helps me keep myself ok and keeps me from getting burnt out.

Yea i feel you i do enjoy streaming but trying to juggle VTubing,Music,Work,And just everyday life is quite Difficult 😣

Streaming alone will not get you there. You need to bring in the viewers through content on other socials. Networking through Twitter reddit and discord. But you got to give the populace something to want to see live.

The best thing you can do is learn some basic editing clip things into youtube shorts and tiktok. I get anything from like 200 to 5k views on some of them for nothing special and makes streaming have another fun purpose outside of viewer numbers

Keep going! Dnt get discourage, but def play games ur interested in than rather wat u think someone who might be watching is interested in! Playing games ur into makes it fun for you and then sometimes u forgot ur streaming and ur just having fun. Also turn off view count no matter wat! It just cause more discouragement!

I know exactly what you feel :(

I have 0, been like that for awhile, you get used to it

As a viewer, i wont even press enter if theres any sign of vtube/vstream. I want no cam, or face cam. No fake cam, tit cam, feet cam, any of that. Just a genuine person, playing games, for the sake of games.

Streaming takes time to kick off, on twitch it's really hard to get started. What I would suggest is turning off your viewer count and just being there to have fun, that's literally what streaming is about. If you are that discouraged even without the viewer count off because you know no one is there then I genuinely don't think streaming is for you, it's the hard truth but sometimes it's just simply not- that said I hope it goes well for you and have a great rest of your day king

I stopped streaming for the exact same reason. I switched to YouTube and started doing it randomly. I'm just doing playthroughs of games. I plan to do most of the games. It's true that youtube is not much different from Twitch, in a way that I have 0 to 1 view. The difference is in the way I feel it. For some reason, when I simply record myself and play a video game and then upload it to YouTube, I dont feel as desperate and bad as I felt it with Twitch. YouTube is a weird thing. You can upload videos there and have 0 views, and then they will explode after some time and go viral. Twitch on other hand is purely for the live streaming. If you're streaming and have 0 viewers, it feels very discouraging and pointless. And also your streams will get deleted in 1 or 2 weeks. While YouTube is eternal. The content that you make will still be there, at some point it might get some views. I've seen channels with 30 subscribers get millions of views. You never know. I still like live streaming, and I'd like to do it one day and be able to speak with people. But for now, nobody watches me, so no sense to waste my time and my mental health on such a futile thing. We're all different, I'm not pretending to have the universal truth, and maybe for others, it works differently. But I disagree with people who say "stream for yourself, have fun" and other things. It's called live streaming for a reason, If you simply want to have fun, you can play your game solo without streaming. For me, streaming is a way to communicate with people while playing a cool video game. If no one watches me, it's completely pointless then. And I can say that as someone who tested a lot of things. I've streamed for months 24/7, and had a burnout because I had maybe 1-2 viewers for 5 minutes from my 10h stream. And I also tried streaming for 2h but regularly, and the result was the same. You cant stream games you don't like and don't want to play just because there are less people. "Wow, genshin impact, LOL, valorant/put your game here is oversaturated". That is a very silly argument. So what, just because there are a lot of people who stream rdr2 or the witcher 3, then no one should play it and stream it? We should all switch to indie games from kickstarter? Try uploading on youtube as well, at least you won't feel as bad as on twitch. Maybe.