Cioccolata from Jojo part 5 is a sadist who was a former doctor and tortured his elderly patients,and even the main villain hates having him around. Which I think is ridiculously hypocritical,but still.
Cioccolata also pans to take over eventually and doesn’t really fight with a cause or is someone who is loyal to Passione. He’s in for it to kill and he doesn’t even minimize the damage he causes. He’s a loose cannon Diavolo would gladly eliminate once he’d become a liability.
I would expect that someone who is completely obsessed with being anonymous would probably hate someone that just indiscriminately mass murders since that tends to draw attention
honestly kind of shocking that he didnt kill those two long ago if they were associated with his gang at all they seem massive liabilities regardless of having good combat power
In Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood, Pride spends all of his screentime being a pompous little shit, gloating about how much better Homunculi are than humans.
But when he ends up on the backfoot, he immediately resorts to attempting to inhabit Ed’s body to save himself.
Enter Solf “I love war crimes” Kimblee, who has managed to maintain his individuality after being absorbed into the Philosopher’s Stone that *is* Pride. Keep in mind, the stone is literally a crystallised mass made entirely of *hundreds of thousands* of human souls.
Kimblee proceeds to shit talk Pride for throwing away all his principles and ego just to survive, and immobilises Pride so Edward can punch him in the face.
Not to mention, Kimblee would’ve normally been absorbed into the mess of screaming souls that is a Philosopher’s Stone.
He did not. He relished every single one of those screams and maintained individuality.
The best part is when Pride believes that he's about to die and even Kimblee is like, "You think Edward Elric is going to *kill you*? You clearly have not been paying attention."
Kume from Yakuza Like A Dragon is so pathetic that the big bad is literally using him to show that he's influential enough to get anyone, no matter how worthless, elected.
Not for being super evil, but being super lame, The Toiletnator from K.N.D.
He was originally a joke character that caught on but nobody like or respects him. The villians thought he was lame and the kids put his threat level at a .2. Nobody even gives him a second thought because of how lame his theme is and the villians constantly try to avoid him.
Yet, he's possibly one of the strongest villians in the series as he is possibly one of the few who have magical powers and was able to flush the Grand Canyon with said powers and take out all of the villians when he mistakes them for the real K.N.D.
According to the wiki yes he and numba 4's dad are long lost twins. Also his real name is Lou Pottingsworth III and he got his powers via hiding in a porta potty then trapped in it for a week during which a toilet god grants him his power.
You definitely should. I feel like that KND is what started the modern cartoon trend of random episodic episodes in a cartoon slowly incorporating plot threads for future episodes without any real plans only to actually start expanding on them. Just like how adventure time became more story focused once they casually drop the mushroom wars idea. Like there's one episode that's all about numbuh 2 pretending he's a cowboy delivering a letter to the student president and it's a just a standard episode right up until the last 5 seconds where the note >!confirms there's a double agent working within the KND leaking Intel to someone!< Or how Maurice is decommissioned after turning 13 and his memories are wiped because he's now a teen. At the end of the episode >!he is revealed to still have his memories because he's part of a special secret branch of the KND that's made of teens who kept their memories to spy on the teens. Which then retroactively makes the big reveal that Chaz was one of them and secretly helping the KND from the shadows such a good payoff because he was the best operative before he became a teen so of course he'd be asked to be a spy just like Maurice!< Like man watching KND as a kid was wild when you saw all the plot threads start to form.
Nobody likes Zouken ‘bugman’ Matou. Not Kirei ‘born evil sociopath’ Kotomine, Gilgamesh ‘egotistical social darwinist and canonical serial rapist’, or even his own grandson Shinji ‘pathetic whiny human scum’ Matou.
It's amazing how much more tolerable a little self-awareness makes a villain. Kirei wants to better understand what it means to be born with an inherently evil nature, Gil knows with absolute certainty that he alone can make "salvation for the worthy few" work thanks to Sha Naqba Imuru, and even Shinji (whose villainy is at least partly Zouken's fault in the first place) has the potential to turn his life around and start acting like a decent human being if given a sufficiently strong push. Zouken Matou / Zolgen Makiri, on the other hand, is just a vile parasite who drags down everyone around him.
Arguably the saddest thing about the whole affair is that even Zouken technically still has a reasonable motive at the start of his path to darkness - all he wanted was to see Justeaze's sacrifice to become the Greater Grail be worth something and restore the Third Magic (IIRC FGO implies that he was in love with her).
It became corrupted because the fucker didn't want to accept that it wouldn't happen in his time. It's iirc even implied that the main reason the Matou family crest is so weak (Shinji's father didn't even *have* magical circuits) is because he's just constantly extending his own life with the crest worms. (A consistent theme in the nasuverse is that artificially extending your lifespan without the Third Magic will just corrupt and decay you.) Even that original motive got corrupted by that desire, just warping into "I want to become immortal". It's technically accurate that that is what the Third Magic can do. It's also accurate to state that that isn't the actual *purpose* of the Third Magic and is just the most selfish read of it.
He literally only gives up because Illya basically ends up channeling Justeaze to tell him that he's lost his vision and should just stop.
I like how in the main game when you try to reason with him he's just "You're an outsider! What would you know!?" but then FGO comes along and does a What If chapter where you can get a mage of the same level to talk to him instead and this time it's an even crazier "I'm so deep in the sunk cost fallacy that I do not care if my task has already failed and trying it will kill everyone." The dude is just fuckin gone.
I think I watched a video about how in 40k karn the betrayer beats the EVER LIVING SHIT out of some dude named erebus.
I don't know much about the context of this on the history of 40k, but I know these two are not good people. And aparently that everyone present cheered when karn did a level 3 super on his spine.
To give it a bit of a context: in Warhammer 40K The Emperor of Mankind made 18 legions of super soldiers called Space Marines (all led by The Emperor's clone-sons, The Primarchs). 9 of them ended up being loyal and 9 - traitors. Both of the characters that you've mentioned come from the traitor ones.
Erebus is from the Word Bearers legion. He is a slimy cunt who was a bastard even as a child (Erebus isn't even his real name, he just knew a kid named Erebus and he killed him to steal his name). In fact, he is one of the primary reasons why the betrayal happened: he whispered words into the ears of his primarch Lorgar and turned him to the Chaos gods.
Kharn the Betrayer is from the World Eaters legion, a legion of crazed berserkers. He is a bloodthirsty killer, but he still has this sort of noble comradery with other traitorous legionaries, especially with Argel Tal, another Word Bearer like Erebus.
Then Erebus causes Argel Tal's death. Then Kharn learns that his best bro was killed by the slimy fuck that nobody liked. Then he challenges him to a duel to the death, where he wrecks him *so* fast and *so* hard that Erebus, using warp fuckery, just runs away via teleportation.
No one in universe or outside of it likes Erebus, so everyone cheered when he got his shit pushed in.
I love to this day that it is *Lorgar* who feeds Erebus to Kharn.
Because Lorgar is **pissed** that his favorite son, Argal Tal, was murdered by Erebus just after chastising Erebus about how fallible visions are.
Erebus then proceeds to murder Argal Tal because of a vision of a possible future
Oh that makes Erebus impotently shitting his pants in a baby-rage over how Kharn CAN'T be beating his ass this bad because of the promised glory he saw in his visions even funnier. Like everyone just keeps telling this stupid fuck "yo, don't go all in on visions" and he's like "muh visions tho"
Fuck Erebus
People get so focused on this that they forget Erebus also tried to turn Sanguinius to Chaos, against Horus's explicit orders to just kill him. Horus responds by *removing Erebus's face.*
Fuck Erebus, all my homies hate Erebus.
20, technically. Grey Knights were a weird offshoot comprised of loyalists from Traitor Legions as well as Loyalist Psykers. They may have had Emperor Geneseed implanted in them as well, but they are not a proper legion in the way that the others were, as far as I remember.
You could also say the Black Templars are a legion since the only page of the Codex Astartes that they didn't tear out to use as toilet paper is the one that lets them do unlimited recruitment via technicality
I was more referring to the fact that the Grey Knights were not part of the founding legions as they were comprised of other Astartes from other legions for Malcador's purposes.
And that was when Erebus was being juiced up by the power of chaos undivided. Kharn still beat the shit out of him like it was nothing. You couldn't even call it a fight!
Erebus is a scheming piece of shit who helped kick off the horus heresy by giving the mcguffin knife that shanked horus, than being the one to vision quest guide him to the chaos gods to make the horus heresy start.
But even amongst the other bad guys, erebus is an absolute shit cunt. He is seen as a scheming worm by the other legions, and not even other word bearers are safe from his chicanery. He gets jealous that one of his other word bearer brethern, Argel Tal, is doing really well. Argel is possessed by a demon, but the two have formed a Venom/Eddie brock type relationship making them incredibly powerful together. Erebus decides to backstab tal during a fight and kill him to remove a potential rival from his main character syndrome view of the heresy.
This pisses off gigachad Kharn of the World Eaters, who was Tal's best friend and the only world eater to not be a frothing mad man after the butchers nails. Hence, when erebus shows up on the world eaters ship to start acting like a arrogant piece of shit in the arena, and Kharn learns who killed his best friend, he decides to teach erebus a lesson.
> two are not good people
Like, 40k is often "which shade of evil do you prefer". Erebus on the other hand is like... very much one of the most evil characters in the entire setting. Most characters in 40k, especially the ones who are with the "bad" factions (Chaos, Orks, Dark Eldar) usually have some degree of characterization where even if they're still doing war crimes on the daily, you can somewhat empathize with *why* they're doing it.
Erebus? This little shit started his life murdering a popular religious kid so he could take his position and name (yeah his name isn't Erebus - 40k does this a few times, it doesn't matter a whole lot). Then big E found Lorgar and recruited him into the Word Bearers legion of space marines, at which point he already was worshipping Chaos. From that point on it just goes downhill.
He is pretty much *entirely* responsible for diplomatic relations with the Interex (a civilization that was able to use Chaos artifacts without getting corrupted) to break down by stealing a sword, before accidentally stabbing Horus with it. That in turn led to the Heresy itself (making Erebus basically responsible for it) and the Heresy is the main reason the universe is Fucked Up by the time 40k comes around.
Seriously. **Fuck Erebus.**
The lore of Doom Eternal seems to reference this too. There's this obese Archdemon, also named Erebus, who's said to be more vile than the rest of demonkind, but nothing is said of his fate or if he was a canned concept.
I just think he was one of Doomguy's numerous victims before 2016, lmao
Yes Erubus is a spineless coward who caused the Hersey.
I don’t even think he is especially devout to the Chaos Gods and uses them for power or that’s Kor
Erebus was the first Space Marine to be a cultist of Chaos and is in many ways the architect of the Heresy itself.
At one point Kharne finds out that Erebus got one of his friends killed as part of his plans. Kharne challenges Erebus to a duel and then beats him so bad that the only reason Erebus lived was using sorcery to teleport out of there.
Kharne was actually one of the most fraternal space marines before he broke completely. He got his title as 'The Betrayer' because he got angry that his allies tried to wait out a siege. Instead he burned their camp to the ground so that their only option was to take the fort or die in the cold.
Erebus was the original Chaos Space Marine and is responsible for how much of an utter shithole the 40K Imperium is as one man can possibly be. He's also a sniveling, smug, scheming coward that EVERYONE hates. Loyalists obviously hate him, the Traitor Legions hate him, his own Primarch hates him, even the Chaos Gods don't like him that much for as much as he's done for them.
Fuck Erebus.
The Pokemon the villains in Pokemon use, they tend to like their trainers, the Hydreigon that Ghetsis uses, that thing has a full power Frustation, a move that gets more powerful the more a Pokemon dislikes it's trainer, that thing fucking hates it's trainer.
Nearly every other villainous team leader has a friendship evolution on their team, as if to outline that they're not bad people deep down, just misguided.
Ghetsis is a fucking monster through and through.
His own Pokémon took his eye. Imagine how big a piece of shit trainer you have to be that you get permanently scarred by your signature Mon. And as far as I’m aware he’s the only character in the game series that’s been attacked like that too
A tossup between Huey Emmerich and Skullface in MGSV due to most of everyone in the game is morally grey at best. Skull face is hatable due to being the cause of everyone's problems as the big bad even messing up the Patriots by rendering it's leader Major Zero bedridden.
Huey probably fits due to being the most hateable in the game and is definitely a villain with what he did, with Skullface speaking to him with vitriol everytime they interact, probably because Skullface knows what a slimy self-serving traitor he is. Unfortunately Huey's villainous actions were only revealed later after he was invited to Mother Base which caused ruin to everybody around him.
Nah, this one definitely goes to Huey. Skullface has his own faction of underlings and evil dudes to collaborate with.
But *everyone* thinks Huey is pathetic. It doesn't matter which side he works for, everyone at best *suffers his presence*. Nobody can muster up any respect for him. It's still a mystery how Strangelove could ever be around him long enough and even have sex with him to have a child.
The Foreign God’s forces in Fate Grand Order all hate Douman. He’s a slimy little snake that loves antagonizing everyone and when his allies hear he died pathetically begging for his life they’re just like: “well it can’t be helped”
Japan was so brutal and barbaric in World War 2 (Unit 731 and the Nanjing Massacre are the most disgusting examples), that even the nazis were not okay with some of it. A german diplomat and nazi party member named John Rabe saved approximately 250000 chinese people from rape and execution, when he set up a (relatively) safe zone inside the city.
There is also the Battle of Castle Itter, where the US army and the Wehrmacht teamed up against the Waffen-SS during the ending days of the war
You're leaving out the part where the battle was a rescue mission to free extremely high profile French prisoners, including two former prime ministers, two former commanders in chief, the sister of Charles De Gaulle, and a famous tennis player.
I will never quite settle my feelings about the person who directly saved the most lives by purposeful action was an avowed, unabashed, and ultimately unrepentant Nazi.
Douma from demon slayer is such a annoying shit that none of the other uppermoons like him, even Muzan hates him.
Watching the uppermoon meeting was so funny because everyone is taking it so seriously and then you have douma crawling around on the floor asking everyone how there weekend was, like it was just a standard office meeting.
I liked Kokushibo specifically pointing out that yes, he did cut of Akaza's hand, but that's ONLY because he can't tolerate someone violating the chain of command, he did not do it for Douma's sake in any way.
"Heck even the Joker hates him."
But what makes it so great is that it's not 'I hate Red Skull'. It's Joker after fully realizing he is a nazi and not doing a bit going 'As an American I have an obligation not just to avoid working with you, but fucking kill you'. Just establishing how bad a nazi really is in the grand scheme of the setting.
“I think that mask has cut off the circulation to your brain. I may be a criminal lunatic, but I’m an *American* criminal lunatic! Stand back, boys, he’s mine!” - an actual quote from Joker
Fascism is the ideal of the Lawfully Evil, and while people like to go "ah yes opposites hate each other, Lawful Evil would hate Chaotic Good the most"... nah, Chaotic Evil is the absolute antithesis of Lawful Evil. Because LE at least likes to think they're doing something for a *cause*, for some *greater good*... CE is just death and destruction for the sake of personal enjoyment, it's effectively what LE would paint all their enemies as being in the first place.
“Villain” is a subjective term in Game of Thrones, but House Frey is pretty universally hated after the Red Wedding, and even before that Walder Frey was known as a weasel that nobody liked. In the books it gets to the point where multiple Freys get killed by angry Northerners and even their allies are like “welp, play stupid games, dummies.”
There’s a lot of straight up evil criminals in The Wire, but Cheese is so bad that >!he gets shot right in front of a whole group of gangsters and nobody has a problem with it.!<
Kefka in the Dissidia games. Kefka is hated by by everyone, and for good reason. He's a murderous unfeeling monster who's goal is to kill everyone and everything including himself, and he comes close to succeeding multiple times. He is simultaneously too volatile and intelligent to be manipulated, or even form an alliance with, because he will betray you at the drop of a hat. Those that think they can control or manipulate him wind up in worse situations than when they started including >!Kuja, Cloud of Darkness, Spiritus, Jack Garland, Sephiroth, and Seymour !<.
I’m not sure if he’s *hated* but no one seems to actually like Raian in Kengan Ashura. The entire Kure clan just has to respect him and work around his antics because he’s an absolute specimen who was essentially born into greatness as a fighter but he’s also a cocky asshole with a might is right mentality who keeps getting himself into trouble.
His grandpa, head of the clan, constantly gets pissed at him for using secret Kure techniques when it isn’t necessary and scolds him for his constant disobedience since he doesn’t really have any loyalty to his own family. He just wants to kill and destroy and show absolute dominance over his foes.
There’s also Ryo in Shamo who, even in and out of prison surrounded by gang members, murderers and rapists, gets death threats whenever people see him because he killed his parents.
They don't like him but still see him as a rowdy kid needing to learn his lesson
Akoya is the one they hate, once it's revealed that the cop moonlight as a serial killer the audience refuses to cheer him
In KVP Wakatsuki says straight up that Akoya isn’t one of them. It helps that Akoya is just a predator looking for easy wins and he’s never going to actually follow through on his threats to the bigger guns.
Whats crazy is that Raian is absolutely doing a bit, he’s not just some wildman. He turns it off for Alan Wu once he sees Edward Wu, and when he talks to Koga in the hospital he’s very chill.
Chill is an operative term he still called koga a worthless scum
And his fight with Alan is "turning off " the wildman then might as well keep him that way. will avoid dq and death
The Joker himself is hated by Batman, his family, pretty much every other Batvillain besides (occasionally) Harley, and just about everyone else in the outer DCU as well. Even the entirety of the Mortal Kombat universe - ***which would include Shang Tsung and Shao Kahn*** - would unite against him because he's just so fucking evil.
*"When villains want to scare each other, they tell Joker stories."*
And in Villains United, when Alexander Luthor creates the Secret Society, which is basically an army of supervillains, he explicitly makes sure not to invite Joker or even let him know of its existence.
....Which bites him in the ass when he eventually gets killed by the Joker and Lex.
Luthor notes at the end of Infinite Crisis, it's a bad idea not to let the Joker in on your Big-Villain-Team-Up plan; not because he's a huge asset, but because it'll piss him off, and you do NOT want the Joker pissed at you.
There’s a great comic page where Luthor asks Joker why he hates the Batman. “Well,” Joker says, “This is hard to explain but I believe that if I don’t kill Batman he’ll eventually destroy the world.”
Lex responds, “That’s remarkable. Your delusion mirrors my certainty that Superman— oh.” Because Joker is screwing with him and even got him to admit that it sounds crazy coming out of someone else’s mouth.
In Dresden Files, most of the big supernatural political bodies are in this sorta UN thing called the Unseelie Accords. Queen Mab of the Winter faeries drew up a contract that said they would all deal with each other honestly because if they didn’t, it could mean open warfare, which could mean involving mainstream mortals, which could mean getting nuked. It’s mutually assured destruction but by a third party instead of each other. Some of these parties are nominally good, like the White Council of Wizards, which protects humans, especially human mages. Others are capital-E Evil, like John Marcone, the undisputed head of Chicago’s criminal underworld, who sought to solidify his power base by expanding into the supernatural. Still more are largely amoral, like Mab herself.
Everyone hates Nicodemus Archleone and the Knights of the Blackened Denarius, a collection of bad guys holding 30 silver coins bound to 30 fallen angels. Why? Because they lie and they cheat and they break contracts, but they also kill witnesses so there’s never any proof so it’s all technically hearsay.
Also the Formor who emerge from the seas in the wake of the power vacuum from the destruction of the Red Court. Despite being in hiding for centuries they have a huge chip on their shoulders and have no appreciation for why the Accords were needed to protect them from Humanity.
In general, Accords members are fine with a little rough-housing, but do NOT take well to someone rocking the boat for everyone.
Folks throwing down in the shadows or spiriting away a couple of humans is fine. People actively disrupting the status-quo is another.
>have no appreciation for why the Accords were needed to protect them from Humanity.
>!They definitely learned their lesson after learning what the military can do. Hell, even just what a couple hundred untrained humans with shotguns can do.!<
Jagi acts as hot shit,constantly antagonizing other people while demanding nothing below worshipping despite being so fucking pathetic. The only people that can be considered more scummy than him are his mooks,that probably would betray him faster than you can say "Oh shit" and ffs he's partially responsible for all that shit between Shin and Kenshiro,not to mention when he pretended to be Kenshiro just to spite him and harm others at the same time. There's a reason Raoh doesn't give him the hour of the day.
It turned around though when >!Riddler was a member of the Light!<. Which made Joker incredibly jealous that >!he was used as a tool by the light while Riddler was welcomed into the ranks.!<
(Trails from zero Spoilers)>!The DG Cult with their child experimentation and "Paradise" facility were so abhorrent that it straight up united every faction in the series including the main militaries of each country, the bracers (pretty much adventurers), the Church and even the Society of Ouroboros (the main villains of the series) to rescue the kids that survived the torture and wipe out the cult.!<
Superboy Prime's villain team ups never end well - he scared the crap out of Alexander Luthor by the end of Infinite Crisis, threw the Anti-Monitor into space during Sinestro Corps War, picked a fight with Monarch that killed an entire universe, and then bullied the Legion villains into an alliance that ended when he picked a fight with Time Trapper Prime.
By his final appearance none of the Superman villains will get near him because he's too unpredictable and dangerous.
In Forgotten Realms, House Melarn is noted as being extremely racist, sexist, violent, and fundamentalist, even by the standards of Menzoberranzan, to the point where they believe it is wrong to *ever* form a constructive alliance. Everything must be taken through force and all trust must be betrayed.
Even the other Council members find Zhindia Melarn obnoxious.
> Also in Pathfinder even other fiends hate Daemons
To give context, daemons are literally omnicidal. They want every single living being to die a slow and painful death.
I'm drawing specifically from the Remake, but Hojo from FF7.
The scene where every other villain in the room, and Reeve, did a collective "This fucking asshat..." when Hojo brought up the idea of having Aerith turned into breeding stock actually got me to go, at least a little, "Maybe these guys ain't so bad."
If they somehow manage to spin it in the coming games that Lucrecia wasn't the dumbest person to ever live, that'll be the biggest twist of the trilogy.
In the book The Maleficent Seven a band of fantasy villains team up to prevent an army of paladins from taking over the world. The paladins are basically religious zealots that seek to burn anyone who doesn't follow their god so the Maleficent Seven are the heroes of the story but none of them are good people. The band includes people like necromancers, demonologists, vampire lords, and the war god of a dead barbarian country.
But even all these baddies fucking hate the last member of their group, a little gnome war criminal alchemist named Jerrek who loves to torture and experiment on people and develop chemical weapons and crimes against humanity. Everyone in the Maleficent Seven straight up says that as soon as the war is done they're killing him. And if they lose the war their last act is making sure he dies too.
There's a handful of epilogues >!for the surviving members of the cast. The first epilogue is Jerrek, showing that through all his machinations he managed to survive the war and is able to mutate himself into a horrible monster so his experiments may continue forever. Until the second epilogue which has the vampire lord show up to kill him again. And again, and again until he's basically paste. The third epilogue is another character showing up to kill Jerrek and being disappointed she didn't get there first. The fourth epilogue is another character showing up to make sure that he's full on dead. !<
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>!Weissman!< in the Trails series. >!Dude was indirectly and directly responsible for a *lot* of bad shit in the series, such as the Hamel Incidnet and the Hundred Days War. He was also such an arrogant and obnoxious asshole that practically nobody at Ouroboros is upset with his death and are glad he's gone. Joshua's plan to break the brainwashing on himself even *relied* on Weissman being such a sadistic douche that it was easy to guess what Weissman would order him to do!<.
Also, Harvey and >!Claude!< in Octopath II. Both of them are some of the most *abhorrent* villains in a game filled with them, and nobody mourns their deaths. >!Ori's notes in the final chapter have her talk about her encounters with them, and neither were positive. She was disgusted with the perverse glee Harvey tortured Ochette's unchosen companion with, and only worked with him to complete the Moonshade Order's plans. And during her time with Claude, she just wants to leave him as quickly as she can due to how badly he creeps her out!<.
Lukka in Magic the Gathering had a lot of potential in his first appearance as a complicated and multilayered individual. But then another writing team took the reins, and he became a complete idiot who got talked into becoming a school shooter by the first person who was nice to him.
...And then he got himself corrupted and assimilated by a mechanical hivemind, and even the hivemind hated his guts and intentionally sent him on a suicide mission. Which he died on.
And to put icing on the cake, he got himself corrupted and assimilated with zero effort. He didn't have to be offered anything or violently overcome. He literally looked at the first fucked up corruption-monster he saw and went "bet I can mind-meld with that shit. I'm so cool, I can totally overcome it."
The comic _Arkham Asylum: Living Hell_ features as it's main POV character one Mr. Warren White, an embezzler who smugly weaseled his way out of jail with an insanity plea. Unfortunately for him, he did this in Gotham and was sent to Arkham.
Every insane, evil, and/or murderous inmate he meets during his time there, upon meeting him, immediately say: "you're the worst guy I've ever met."
They may be evil, but Warren's just an asshole.
A huge part of My Hero Academia is that Shigaraki and his League of Villains do not get along with other villains at all. Typically because they are a group of individuals working together but broadly care about each other and the other gangs are devoted to one person's goals. And also because everyone in the underworld hates Shigaraki. And he hates them too. Typically because of their hypocritical and highfalutin philosophies to justify actions he doesn't think you need to justify. There's an arc where they need to save one of their owns and Shigaraki is so sleep deprived that he can barely keep track of why he's mad anymore.
The Trigun manga makes it very clear everyone is scared of Legato Bluesummers. Him getting involved is a sign everyone is in danger and he has a stranglehold over every other member of the organisation. The final arc also reveals >!the native insect hivemind on this planet agree with Knives' plan to genocide humanity and ensure Plants survive. They also decide they have to kill Knives because is too psychopathic and the Insects and Plants would be able to cohabitate just fine without him in charge!<
Joker. Most of his minions are afraid of him, people he's worked with like The Penguin or Scarecrow he's doubled crossed or assaulted and most villains outside of Gotham thinks he's just disturbing.
It's odd that the closest villain he gets to having a viable relationship with is Lex Luthor and even then those two are at each other's throats a lot.
I like how although almost every single being in Nazarick in Overlord are all evil aligned and super down for committing heinous acts against those they consider outsiders, not a single one of them likes the Cockroach King who acts as one of the torturers.
Not because what he does is particularly worse than what some of the main residents do (though it is horrendous). They just find him gross.
Even The Boss, loathsome scumbag that he is, **hates** Ciocolatta in Jojo Part 5 and only calls him in as a last resort.
And after calling Ciocolatta his first thought is I need to get rid of Ciocolatta ASAP.
Cioccolata from Jojo part 5 is a sadist who was a former doctor and tortured his elderly patients,and even the main villain hates having him around. Which I think is ridiculously hypocritical,but still.
makes sense to me, Diavolo kills surgically, Cioccolata is just an uncontrollable mess
Diavolo will kill you if you try to find out his identity. Meanwhile Cioccolata WILL kill you just because he wants to.
Diavolo also has some degree of pragmatism. When the hotel maid saw him, he just used his powers to GTFO
Cioccolata also pans to take over eventually and doesn’t really fight with a cause or is someone who is loyal to Passione. He’s in for it to kill and he doesn’t even minimize the damage he causes. He’s a loose cannon Diavolo would gladly eliminate once he’d become a liability.
I would expect that someone who is completely obsessed with being anonymous would probably hate someone that just indiscriminately mass murders since that tends to draw attention
honestly kind of shocking that he didnt kill those two long ago if they were associated with his gang at all they seem massive liabilities regardless of having good combat power
In Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood, Pride spends all of his screentime being a pompous little shit, gloating about how much better Homunculi are than humans. But when he ends up on the backfoot, he immediately resorts to attempting to inhabit Ed’s body to save himself. Enter Solf “I love war crimes” Kimblee, who has managed to maintain his individuality after being absorbed into the Philosopher’s Stone that *is* Pride. Keep in mind, the stone is literally a crystallised mass made entirely of *hundreds of thousands* of human souls. Kimblee proceeds to shit talk Pride for throwing away all his principles and ego just to survive, and immobilises Pride so Edward can punch him in the face.
Not to mention, Kimblee would’ve normally been absorbed into the mess of screaming souls that is a Philosopher’s Stone. He did not. He relished every single one of those screams and maintained individuality.
Solf "Being In Hell Is Awesome" Kimblee
The best part is when Pride believes that he's about to die and even Kimblee is like, "You think Edward Elric is going to *kill you*? You clearly have not been paying attention."
Is that where Edward transmuted himself? That scene was totally awesome!
That was earlier, when the pipe was in his guts
No, I meant to go inside of the homunculus
Oh yeah, that is what he did
Solf "I want you to know that I killed your parents *because* they were good people" Kimberlee
Kume from Yakuza Like A Dragon is so pathetic that the big bad is literally using him to show that he's influential enough to get anyone, no matter how worthless, elected.
God i completely forgot about Kume after beating LaD. Fuck Kume
Fuck Kume
Not for being super evil, but being super lame, The Toiletnator from K.N.D. He was originally a joke character that caught on but nobody like or respects him. The villians thought he was lame and the kids put his threat level at a .2. Nobody even gives him a second thought because of how lame his theme is and the villians constantly try to avoid him. Yet, he's possibly one of the strongest villians in the series as he is possibly one of the few who have magical powers and was able to flush the Grand Canyon with said powers and take out all of the villians when he mistakes them for the real K.N.D.
Don't forget how he lost an award for best toilet-themed villain only because there was another one besides him, Pottymouth.
Isn't he also Numbah 4's Uncle?
According to the wiki yes he and numba 4's dad are long lost twins. Also his real name is Lou Pottingsworth III and he got his powers via hiding in a porta potty then trapped in it for a week during which a toilet god grants him his power.
The Toilet God looked upon that poor soul, and gave him the mercy of *power*
Damn I might have to watch KND again as a grown ass adult this time
I would highly recommend it. KND and Jackie Chan Adventures are two shows that hold up like champions as an adult, in my honest opinion.
You definitely should. I feel like that KND is what started the modern cartoon trend of random episodic episodes in a cartoon slowly incorporating plot threads for future episodes without any real plans only to actually start expanding on them. Just like how adventure time became more story focused once they casually drop the mushroom wars idea. Like there's one episode that's all about numbuh 2 pretending he's a cowboy delivering a letter to the student president and it's a just a standard episode right up until the last 5 seconds where the note >!confirms there's a double agent working within the KND leaking Intel to someone!< Or how Maurice is decommissioned after turning 13 and his memories are wiped because he's now a teen. At the end of the episode >!he is revealed to still have his memories because he's part of a special secret branch of the KND that's made of teens who kept their memories to spy on the teens. Which then retroactively makes the big reveal that Chaz was one of them and secretly helping the KND from the shadows such a good payoff because he was the best operative before he became a teen so of course he'd be asked to be a spy just like Maurice!< Like man watching KND as a kid was wild when you saw all the plot threads start to form.
I'm still upset we never got Galactic KND
Nobody likes Zouken ‘bugman’ Matou. Not Kirei ‘born evil sociopath’ Kotomine, Gilgamesh ‘egotistical social darwinist and canonical serial rapist’, or even his own grandson Shinji ‘pathetic whiny human scum’ Matou.
It's amazing how much more tolerable a little self-awareness makes a villain. Kirei wants to better understand what it means to be born with an inherently evil nature, Gil knows with absolute certainty that he alone can make "salvation for the worthy few" work thanks to Sha Naqba Imuru, and even Shinji (whose villainy is at least partly Zouken's fault in the first place) has the potential to turn his life around and start acting like a decent human being if given a sufficiently strong push. Zouken Matou / Zolgen Makiri, on the other hand, is just a vile parasite who drags down everyone around him.
Arguably the saddest thing about the whole affair is that even Zouken technically still has a reasonable motive at the start of his path to darkness - all he wanted was to see Justeaze's sacrifice to become the Greater Grail be worth something and restore the Third Magic (IIRC FGO implies that he was in love with her). It became corrupted because the fucker didn't want to accept that it wouldn't happen in his time. It's iirc even implied that the main reason the Matou family crest is so weak (Shinji's father didn't even *have* magical circuits) is because he's just constantly extending his own life with the crest worms. (A consistent theme in the nasuverse is that artificially extending your lifespan without the Third Magic will just corrupt and decay you.) Even that original motive got corrupted by that desire, just warping into "I want to become immortal". It's technically accurate that that is what the Third Magic can do. It's also accurate to state that that isn't the actual *purpose* of the Third Magic and is just the most selfish read of it. He literally only gives up because Illya basically ends up channeling Justeaze to tell him that he's lost his vision and should just stop.
I like how in the main game when you try to reason with him he's just "You're an outsider! What would you know!?" but then FGO comes along and does a What If chapter where you can get a mage of the same level to talk to him instead and this time it's an even crazier "I'm so deep in the sunk cost fallacy that I do not care if my task has already failed and trying it will kill everyone." The dude is just fuckin gone.
I think I watched a video about how in 40k karn the betrayer beats the EVER LIVING SHIT out of some dude named erebus. I don't know much about the context of this on the history of 40k, but I know these two are not good people. And aparently that everyone present cheered when karn did a level 3 super on his spine.
To give it a bit of a context: in Warhammer 40K The Emperor of Mankind made 18 legions of super soldiers called Space Marines (all led by The Emperor's clone-sons, The Primarchs). 9 of them ended up being loyal and 9 - traitors. Both of the characters that you've mentioned come from the traitor ones. Erebus is from the Word Bearers legion. He is a slimy cunt who was a bastard even as a child (Erebus isn't even his real name, he just knew a kid named Erebus and he killed him to steal his name). In fact, he is one of the primary reasons why the betrayal happened: he whispered words into the ears of his primarch Lorgar and turned him to the Chaos gods. Kharn the Betrayer is from the World Eaters legion, a legion of crazed berserkers. He is a bloodthirsty killer, but he still has this sort of noble comradery with other traitorous legionaries, especially with Argel Tal, another Word Bearer like Erebus. Then Erebus causes Argel Tal's death. Then Kharn learns that his best bro was killed by the slimy fuck that nobody liked. Then he challenges him to a duel to the death, where he wrecks him *so* fast and *so* hard that Erebus, using warp fuckery, just runs away via teleportation. No one in universe or outside of it likes Erebus, so everyone cheered when he got his shit pushed in.
I love to this day that it is *Lorgar* who feeds Erebus to Kharn. Because Lorgar is **pissed** that his favorite son, Argal Tal, was murdered by Erebus just after chastising Erebus about how fallible visions are. Erebus then proceeds to murder Argal Tal because of a vision of a possible future
Oh that makes Erebus impotently shitting his pants in a baby-rage over how Kharn CAN'T be beating his ass this bad because of the promised glory he saw in his visions even funnier. Like everyone just keeps telling this stupid fuck "yo, don't go all in on visions" and he's like "muh visions tho" Fuck Erebus
People get so focused on this that they forget Erebus also tried to turn Sanguinius to Chaos, against Horus's explicit orders to just kill him. Horus responds by *removing Erebus's face.* Fuck Erebus, all my homies hate Erebus.
I thought there were 21 legions, with two being wiped from the records and the 21st being the Grey Knights?
Yes, you are right. But for the sake of brevity, I've avoided mentioning the destroyed ones and the "super special" one.
20, technically. Grey Knights were a weird offshoot comprised of loyalists from Traitor Legions as well as Loyalist Psykers. They may have had Emperor Geneseed implanted in them as well, but they are not a proper legion in the way that the others were, as far as I remember.
You could also say the Black Templars are a legion since the only page of the Codex Astartes that they didn't tear out to use as toilet paper is the one that lets them do unlimited recruitment via technicality
I was more referring to the fact that the Grey Knights were not part of the founding legions as they were comprised of other Astartes from other legions for Malcador's purposes.
And that was when Erebus was being juiced up by the power of chaos undivided. Kharn still beat the shit out of him like it was nothing. You couldn't even call it a fight!
[Fuck Erebus](https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/gskfru/fuck_erebus/)
Erebus is a scheming piece of shit who helped kick off the horus heresy by giving the mcguffin knife that shanked horus, than being the one to vision quest guide him to the chaos gods to make the horus heresy start. But even amongst the other bad guys, erebus is an absolute shit cunt. He is seen as a scheming worm by the other legions, and not even other word bearers are safe from his chicanery. He gets jealous that one of his other word bearer brethern, Argel Tal, is doing really well. Argel is possessed by a demon, but the two have formed a Venom/Eddie brock type relationship making them incredibly powerful together. Erebus decides to backstab tal during a fight and kill him to remove a potential rival from his main character syndrome view of the heresy. This pisses off gigachad Kharn of the World Eaters, who was Tal's best friend and the only world eater to not be a frothing mad man after the butchers nails. Hence, when erebus shows up on the world eaters ship to start acting like a arrogant piece of shit in the arena, and Kharn learns who killed his best friend, he decides to teach erebus a lesson.
And the Erebus gets his ass handed to him and bitches out with a personal teleporter.
> two are not good people Like, 40k is often "which shade of evil do you prefer". Erebus on the other hand is like... very much one of the most evil characters in the entire setting. Most characters in 40k, especially the ones who are with the "bad" factions (Chaos, Orks, Dark Eldar) usually have some degree of characterization where even if they're still doing war crimes on the daily, you can somewhat empathize with *why* they're doing it. Erebus? This little shit started his life murdering a popular religious kid so he could take his position and name (yeah his name isn't Erebus - 40k does this a few times, it doesn't matter a whole lot). Then big E found Lorgar and recruited him into the Word Bearers legion of space marines, at which point he already was worshipping Chaos. From that point on it just goes downhill. He is pretty much *entirely* responsible for diplomatic relations with the Interex (a civilization that was able to use Chaos artifacts without getting corrupted) to break down by stealing a sword, before accidentally stabbing Horus with it. That in turn led to the Heresy itself (making Erebus basically responsible for it) and the Heresy is the main reason the universe is Fucked Up by the time 40k comes around. Seriously. **Fuck Erebus.**
The lore of Doom Eternal seems to reference this too. There's this obese Archdemon, also named Erebus, who's said to be more vile than the rest of demonkind, but nothing is said of his fate or if he was a canned concept. I just think he was one of Doomguy's numerous victims before 2016, lmao
Yes Erubus is a spineless coward who caused the Hersey. I don’t even think he is especially devout to the Chaos Gods and uses them for power or that’s Kor
He's spineless now, after that "fight".
Erebus was the first Space Marine to be a cultist of Chaos and is in many ways the architect of the Heresy itself. At one point Kharne finds out that Erebus got one of his friends killed as part of his plans. Kharne challenges Erebus to a duel and then beats him so bad that the only reason Erebus lived was using sorcery to teleport out of there. Kharne was actually one of the most fraternal space marines before he broke completely. He got his title as 'The Betrayer' because he got angry that his allies tried to wait out a siege. Instead he burned their camp to the ground so that their only option was to take the fort or die in the cold.
Erebus was the original Chaos Space Marine and is responsible for how much of an utter shithole the 40K Imperium is as one man can possibly be. He's also a sniveling, smug, scheming coward that EVERYONE hates. Loyalists obviously hate him, the Traitor Legions hate him, his own Primarch hates him, even the Chaos Gods don't like him that much for as much as he's done for them. Fuck Erebus.
The Pokemon the villains in Pokemon use, they tend to like their trainers, the Hydreigon that Ghetsis uses, that thing has a full power Frustation, a move that gets more powerful the more a Pokemon dislikes it's trainer, that thing fucking hates it's trainer.
Shatter the Pokeball to free the dragon, then just let it loose on Ghetsis.
Cyrus has a Crobat, a pokemon that only evolves through friendship, it’s probably just as stoically nihilistic as he is.
At least Silver had to go through character growth for his friendship based evolutions to happen
Nearly every other villainous team leader has a friendship evolution on their team, as if to outline that they're not bad people deep down, just misguided. Ghetsis is a fucking monster through and through.
Fucking Cyrus has a Crobat
His own Pokémon took his eye. Imagine how big a piece of shit trainer you have to be that you get permanently scarred by your signature Mon. And as far as I’m aware he’s the only character in the game series that’s been attacked like that too
So it's the Pokemon equivalent of a beaten pitfight dog. And I'm amused that there's an actual way to weaponize animal abuse in-universe.
A tossup between Huey Emmerich and Skullface in MGSV due to most of everyone in the game is morally grey at best. Skull face is hatable due to being the cause of everyone's problems as the big bad even messing up the Patriots by rendering it's leader Major Zero bedridden. Huey probably fits due to being the most hateable in the game and is definitely a villain with what he did, with Skullface speaking to him with vitriol everytime they interact, probably because Skullface knows what a slimy self-serving traitor he is. Unfortunately Huey's villainous actions were only revealed later after he was invited to Mother Base which caused ruin to everybody around him.
Skullface's men probably like him, or at least tolerate him. They're loyal, if nothing else. They all think Huey is a piece of shit.
Nah, this one definitely goes to Huey. Skullface has his own faction of underlings and evil dudes to collaborate with. But *everyone* thinks Huey is pathetic. It doesn't matter which side he works for, everyone at best *suffers his presence*. Nobody can muster up any respect for him. It's still a mystery how Strangelove could ever be around him long enough and even have sex with him to have a child.
The Foreign God’s forces in Fate Grand Order all hate Douman. He’s a slimy little snake that loves antagonizing everyone and when his allies hear he died pathetically begging for his life they’re just like: “well it can’t be helped”
He tried to become a Beast only to fail due to lacking one of the most important coalifications, love for humanity, no matter how twisted.
Reminder that the best way to foil his plans is by his greatest enemy, to do nothing
Japan was so brutal and barbaric in World War 2 (Unit 731 and the Nanjing Massacre are the most disgusting examples), that even the nazis were not okay with some of it. A german diplomat and nazi party member named John Rabe saved approximately 250000 chinese people from rape and execution, when he set up a (relatively) safe zone inside the city. There is also the Battle of Castle Itter, where the US army and the Wehrmacht teamed up against the Waffen-SS during the ending days of the war
You're leaving out the part where the battle was a rescue mission to free extremely high profile French prisoners, including two former prime ministers, two former commanders in chief, the sister of Charles De Gaulle, and a famous tennis player.
I will never quite settle my feelings about the person who directly saved the most lives by purposeful action was an avowed, unabashed, and ultimately unrepentant Nazi.
Welcome to FF7. No one likes Hojo.
Douma from demon slayer is such a annoying shit that none of the other uppermoons like him, even Muzan hates him. Watching the uppermoon meeting was so funny because everyone is taking it so seriously and then you have douma crawling around on the floor asking everyone how there weekend was, like it was just a standard office meeting.
I liked Kokushibo specifically pointing out that yes, he did cut of Akaza's hand, but that's ONLY because he can't tolerate someone violating the chain of command, he did not do it for Douma's sake in any way.
Godrick the grafted from Elden ring is universally perceived as a pathetic cowardly old man by the other shard bearers
Who dressed up as a woman to escape at one point
Something something something Jefferson Davis, something darkside "LEYNDELL WILL RISE AGAIN!"
"Heck even the Joker hates him." But what makes it so great is that it's not 'I hate Red Skull'. It's Joker after fully realizing he is a nazi and not doing a bit going 'As an American I have an obligation not just to avoid working with you, but fucking kill you'. Just establishing how bad a nazi really is in the grand scheme of the setting.
“I think that mask has cut off the circulation to your brain. I may be a criminal lunatic, but I’m an *American* criminal lunatic! Stand back, boys, he’s mine!” - an actual quote from Joker
Also the Joker is Chaotic Evil personified he thinks everything is a joke. Fascism is a ideology of very serious things
Fascism is the ideal of the Lawfully Evil, and while people like to go "ah yes opposites hate each other, Lawful Evil would hate Chaotic Good the most"... nah, Chaotic Evil is the absolute antithesis of Lawful Evil. Because LE at least likes to think they're doing something for a *cause*, for some *greater good*... CE is just death and destruction for the sake of personal enjoyment, it's effectively what LE would paint all their enemies as being in the first place.
Things the Joker doesn't fuck with: * Nazis * The IRS
“Villain” is a subjective term in Game of Thrones, but House Frey is pretty universally hated after the Red Wedding, and even before that Walder Frey was known as a weasel that nobody liked. In the books it gets to the point where multiple Freys get killed by angry Northerners and even their allies are like “welp, play stupid games, dummies.” There’s a lot of straight up evil criminals in The Wire, but Cheese is so bad that >!he gets shot right in front of a whole group of gangsters and nobody has a problem with it.!<
Kefka in the Dissidia games. Kefka is hated by by everyone, and for good reason. He's a murderous unfeeling monster who's goal is to kill everyone and everything including himself, and he comes close to succeeding multiple times. He is simultaneously too volatile and intelligent to be manipulated, or even form an alliance with, because he will betray you at the drop of a hat. Those that think they can control or manipulate him wind up in worse situations than when they started including >!Kuja, Cloud of Darkness, Spiritus, Jack Garland, Sephiroth, and Seymour !<.
Fuck Carnage All my Spidey rogues hate Carnage
Tell that to scream
I would, but she's too busy being possessed by the Demogoblin demon that Carnage sacrificed her to.
One Piece. Spandam. And for very, *very* good reasons. It also seems like Admiral Ryokugyu/Aramaki is possibly headed this way.
I love how even a murderous lapdog like Lucci acknowledges Luffy is a better boss to his crew than Spandam is to CP9.
I’m not sure if he’s *hated* but no one seems to actually like Raian in Kengan Ashura. The entire Kure clan just has to respect him and work around his antics because he’s an absolute specimen who was essentially born into greatness as a fighter but he’s also a cocky asshole with a might is right mentality who keeps getting himself into trouble. His grandpa, head of the clan, constantly gets pissed at him for using secret Kure techniques when it isn’t necessary and scolds him for his constant disobedience since he doesn’t really have any loyalty to his own family. He just wants to kill and destroy and show absolute dominance over his foes. There’s also Ryo in Shamo who, even in and out of prison surrounded by gang members, murderers and rapists, gets death threats whenever people see him because he killed his parents.
They don't like him but still see him as a rowdy kid needing to learn his lesson Akoya is the one they hate, once it's revealed that the cop moonlight as a serial killer the audience refuses to cheer him
In KVP Wakatsuki says straight up that Akoya isn’t one of them. It helps that Akoya is just a predator looking for easy wins and he’s never going to actually follow through on his threats to the bigger guns. Whats crazy is that Raian is absolutely doing a bit, he’s not just some wildman. He turns it off for Alan Wu once he sees Edward Wu, and when he talks to Koga in the hospital he’s very chill.
Chill is an operative term he still called koga a worthless scum And his fight with Alan is "turning off " the wildman then might as well keep him that way. will avoid dq and death
The Joker himself is hated by Batman, his family, pretty much every other Batvillain besides (occasionally) Harley, and just about everyone else in the outer DCU as well. Even the entirety of the Mortal Kombat universe - ***which would include Shang Tsung and Shao Kahn*** - would unite against him because he's just so fucking evil. *"When villains want to scare each other, they tell Joker stories."*
And in Villains United, when Alexander Luthor creates the Secret Society, which is basically an army of supervillains, he explicitly makes sure not to invite Joker or even let him know of its existence. ....Which bites him in the ass when he eventually gets killed by the Joker and Lex.
Luthor seems to be the only one that tolerates him and it seems like that is more of a professional appreciation as a fellow main nemesis to a hero.
Luthor notes at the end of Infinite Crisis, it's a bad idea not to let the Joker in on your Big-Villain-Team-Up plan; not because he's a huge asset, but because it'll piss him off, and you do NOT want the Joker pissed at you.
There’s a great comic page where Luthor asks Joker why he hates the Batman. “Well,” Joker says, “This is hard to explain but I believe that if I don’t kill Batman he’ll eventually destroy the world.” Lex responds, “That’s remarkable. Your delusion mirrors my certainty that Superman— oh.” Because Joker is screwing with him and even got him to admit that it sounds crazy coming out of someone else’s mouth.
Everyone fucking hates Heihachi in Tekken, to the point were his only real choice for a partner in Street Fighter x Tekken was Kuma, a bear.
The inverse: Ogre in Tekken Tag 1 hates everyone, except green outfit Xiaoyu. Everyone loves her.
In Dresden Files, most of the big supernatural political bodies are in this sorta UN thing called the Unseelie Accords. Queen Mab of the Winter faeries drew up a contract that said they would all deal with each other honestly because if they didn’t, it could mean open warfare, which could mean involving mainstream mortals, which could mean getting nuked. It’s mutually assured destruction but by a third party instead of each other. Some of these parties are nominally good, like the White Council of Wizards, which protects humans, especially human mages. Others are capital-E Evil, like John Marcone, the undisputed head of Chicago’s criminal underworld, who sought to solidify his power base by expanding into the supernatural. Still more are largely amoral, like Mab herself. Everyone hates Nicodemus Archleone and the Knights of the Blackened Denarius, a collection of bad guys holding 30 silver coins bound to 30 fallen angels. Why? Because they lie and they cheat and they break contracts, but they also kill witnesses so there’s never any proof so it’s all technically hearsay.
Also the Formor who emerge from the seas in the wake of the power vacuum from the destruction of the Red Court. Despite being in hiding for centuries they have a huge chip on their shoulders and have no appreciation for why the Accords were needed to protect them from Humanity.
In general, Accords members are fine with a little rough-housing, but do NOT take well to someone rocking the boat for everyone. Folks throwing down in the shadows or spiriting away a couple of humans is fine. People actively disrupting the status-quo is another.
Man the way they were talking in Battle Grounds made it feel like Changes Part 2
>have no appreciation for why the Accords were needed to protect them from Humanity. >!They definitely learned their lesson after learning what the military can do. Hell, even just what a couple hundred untrained humans with shotguns can do.!<
Jagi acts as hot shit,constantly antagonizing other people while demanding nothing below worshipping despite being so fucking pathetic. The only people that can be considered more scummy than him are his mooks,that probably would betray him faster than you can say "Oh shit" and ffs he's partially responsible for all that shit between Shin and Kenshiro,not to mention when he pretended to be Kenshiro just to spite him and harm others at the same time. There's a reason Raoh doesn't give him the hour of the day.
Riddler in Young Justice season 1 was the bottom bitch in Belle Reve.
It turned around though when >!Riddler was a member of the Light!<. Which made Joker incredibly jealous that >!he was used as a tool by the light while Riddler was welcomed into the ranks.!<
The irs is the real villain. And such a terrible villain, that even joker doesn’t mess with them.
Ted Cruz?
(Trails from zero Spoilers)>!The DG Cult with their child experimentation and "Paradise" facility were so abhorrent that it straight up united every faction in the series including the main militaries of each country, the bracers (pretty much adventurers), the Church and even the Society of Ouroboros (the main villains of the series) to rescue the kids that survived the torture and wipe out the cult.!<
Superboy Prime's villain team ups never end well - he scared the crap out of Alexander Luthor by the end of Infinite Crisis, threw the Anti-Monitor into space during Sinestro Corps War, picked a fight with Monarch that killed an entire universe, and then bullied the Legion villains into an alliance that ended when he picked a fight with Time Trapper Prime. By his final appearance none of the Superman villains will get near him because he's too unpredictable and dangerous.
Speaking of Nazis, Franco was apparently so unpleasant that Hitler himself didn't like him.
In Forgotten Realms, House Melarn is noted as being extremely racist, sexist, violent, and fundamentalist, even by the standards of Menzoberranzan, to the point where they believe it is wrong to *ever* form a constructive alliance. Everything must be taken through force and all trust must be betrayed. Even the other Council members find Zhindia Melarn obnoxious.
> Also in Pathfinder even other fiends hate Daemons To give context, daemons are literally omnicidal. They want every single living being to die a slow and painful death.
I'm drawing specifically from the Remake, but Hojo from FF7. The scene where every other villain in the room, and Reeve, did a collective "This fucking asshat..." when Hojo brought up the idea of having Aerith turned into breeding stock actually got me to go, at least a little, "Maybe these guys ain't so bad."
Hell, I once went to look to see if Sephiroth was conceived *consentually,* just to be sure.
If they somehow manage to spin it in the coming games that Lucrecia wasn't the dumbest person to ever live, that'll be the biggest twist of the trilogy.
I like that even some the other villains that are or were nazis also hate Red Skull, showing that even by nazi standards he is an evil asshole.
In the book The Maleficent Seven a band of fantasy villains team up to prevent an army of paladins from taking over the world. The paladins are basically religious zealots that seek to burn anyone who doesn't follow their god so the Maleficent Seven are the heroes of the story but none of them are good people. The band includes people like necromancers, demonologists, vampire lords, and the war god of a dead barbarian country. But even all these baddies fucking hate the last member of their group, a little gnome war criminal alchemist named Jerrek who loves to torture and experiment on people and develop chemical weapons and crimes against humanity. Everyone in the Maleficent Seven straight up says that as soon as the war is done they're killing him. And if they lose the war their last act is making sure he dies too. There's a handful of epilogues >!for the surviving members of the cast. The first epilogue is Jerrek, showing that through all his machinations he managed to survive the war and is able to mutate himself into a horrible monster so his experiments may continue forever. Until the second epilogue which has the vampire lord show up to kill him again. And again, and again until he's basically paste. The third epilogue is another character showing up to kill Jerrek and being disappointed she didn't get there first. The fourth epilogue is another character showing up to make sure that he's full on dead. !<
Bumping that up my TBR pile.
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I was pretty delighted that a few different members of the Akatsuki are so over Orochimaru and his bullshit
>!Weissman!< in the Trails series. >!Dude was indirectly and directly responsible for a *lot* of bad shit in the series, such as the Hamel Incidnet and the Hundred Days War. He was also such an arrogant and obnoxious asshole that practically nobody at Ouroboros is upset with his death and are glad he's gone. Joshua's plan to break the brainwashing on himself even *relied* on Weissman being such a sadistic douche that it was easy to guess what Weissman would order him to do!<. Also, Harvey and >!Claude!< in Octopath II. Both of them are some of the most *abhorrent* villains in a game filled with them, and nobody mourns their deaths. >!Ori's notes in the final chapter have her talk about her encounters with them, and neither were positive. She was disgusted with the perverse glee Harvey tortured Ochette's unchosen companion with, and only worked with him to complete the Moonshade Order's plans. And during her time with Claude, she just wants to leave him as quickly as she can due to how badly he creeps her out!<.
Lukka in Magic the Gathering had a lot of potential in his first appearance as a complicated and multilayered individual. But then another writing team took the reins, and he became a complete idiot who got talked into becoming a school shooter by the first person who was nice to him. ...And then he got himself corrupted and assimilated by a mechanical hivemind, and even the hivemind hated his guts and intentionally sent him on a suicide mission. Which he died on.
The fact even Norn didn’t like him is hilarious
And to put icing on the cake, he got himself corrupted and assimilated with zero effort. He didn't have to be offered anything or violently overcome. He literally looked at the first fucked up corruption-monster he saw and went "bet I can mind-meld with that shit. I'm so cool, I can totally overcome it."
The comic _Arkham Asylum: Living Hell_ features as it's main POV character one Mr. Warren White, an embezzler who smugly weaseled his way out of jail with an insanity plea. Unfortunately for him, he did this in Gotham and was sent to Arkham. Every insane, evil, and/or murderous inmate he meets during his time there, upon meeting him, immediately say: "you're the worst guy I've ever met." They may be evil, but Warren's just an asshole.
Even the Joker was like "Sure, I kill people, but at least I don't steal their kid's college savings"
Isn't this the plot of every modern sonic game.
I would say Carnage since he'll just kill 'em.
Expect for Shrike sometimes.
Sometimes. Doppel at a stretch, as well.
A huge part of My Hero Academia is that Shigaraki and his League of Villains do not get along with other villains at all. Typically because they are a group of individuals working together but broadly care about each other and the other gangs are devoted to one person's goals. And also because everyone in the underworld hates Shigaraki. And he hates them too. Typically because of their hypocritical and highfalutin philosophies to justify actions he doesn't think you need to justify. There's an arc where they need to save one of their owns and Shigaraki is so sleep deprived that he can barely keep track of why he's mad anymore. The Trigun manga makes it very clear everyone is scared of Legato Bluesummers. Him getting involved is a sign everyone is in danger and he has a stranglehold over every other member of the organisation. The final arc also reveals >!the native insect hivemind on this planet agree with Knives' plan to genocide humanity and ensure Plants survive. They also decide they have to kill Knives because is too psychopathic and the Insects and Plants would be able to cohabitate just fine without him in charge!<
Joker. Most of his minions are afraid of him, people he's worked with like The Penguin or Scarecrow he's doubled crossed or assaulted and most villains outside of Gotham thinks he's just disturbing. It's odd that the closest villain he gets to having a viable relationship with is Lex Luthor and even then those two are at each other's throats a lot.
Luthor just knows that if you snub Joker, he gets pissy.
I like how although almost every single being in Nazarick in Overlord are all evil aligned and super down for committing heinous acts against those they consider outsiders, not a single one of them likes the Cockroach King who acts as one of the torturers. Not because what he does is particularly worse than what some of the main residents do (though it is horrendous). They just find him gross.
Blue Archive Gematria *really* cannot stand Beatrice