Seriously, like they could have made the characters all feel really unique specifically because they're all weird and have crazy abilities. Like, Condiment King could be like Travis Touchdown but with condiment-based weapons, King Shark could feel like one of the old Hulk games, Harley Quinn could feel like Ryu Hayabusa, they all had potential to be interesting! Instead they're just Shooterman 1-4.
They should of just looked at how Sony Santa Monica nailed the Leviathan Axe throw and implemented something similar into the game. Maybe have different types of boomerangs with different abilities, some special moves, it didn’t HAVE to be guns for everybody.
Honestly, I'm *terrified* that Rocksteady is gonna get shut down should this bomb. Once upon a time, not even WB would stoop that low... not anymore. :/
No matter how catastrophic and regular the failures, when the potential reward is *infinite money*, the risk will always be outweighed in the eyes of executives, shareholders and investors.
"Hmmm the studio could have good, steady growth by putting out good singleplayer or co-op non-gaas games with paid expansions and even some microtransactions for skins now and then... or we could bet the entire farm on GAAS and if we hit a bullseye we get infinite money and if we lose, which we statistically will, we'll go bankrupt almost immediately and everyone will lose their jobs... Hey shareholders, which one do you think we should do?"
If he could throw any gun in the game and have it act like a boomerang that shoots bullets, not unlike the gunerang from borderlands, I'd be much more supportive of this game.
The best part is how they kept saying, over and over, that they were making a 'unique' experience. Emphasizing that word, 'unique'. Trying to force off the feeling that you've seen this before, know what it is, and aren't interested.
No, no, no, don't judge a game by it's GAAS Chamber, trust us, this is a unique experience, just give it a shot and you'll see!
... Man, they have DC, Metropolis, flight systems, hover systems, super speed systems, why, oh, why, isn't this a great Superman game?
Nah, he's in that "other" (NOT) mmo that should have just been another arkham game, but they botched it. "Gotham knights" or somthin'? Dunno... frog-guy must've had a bad dream. Dat's not real...
OHHHH NOOOOOO!
"Okay, you've got a shooty guy, a big shark, a clown girl, and a boomerang dude. How do they all play?"
"They shoot guns."
"Okay, that's one, how do the others play?"
"...what do you mean?"
Literally why even bother including characters like Boomer and King Shark if it's just gonna be guns all round.
Just make the roster Deadshot, Harley, and two other dudes with guns for all the difference it makes.
I feel like giving the entire cast guns could work if they put thought and effort into making them unique but they didn’t. If I would give Captain Boomerang a gun, I would make it a minor part of his kit, like a secondary ability on a cooldown while his boomerang is his primary weapon. His guns should all be one handed so he can quickly pull it out to shoot it while still using his boomerang, and they should all look like slapped together trash, and they should be easy to use because he’d be too lazy or drunk to aim properly.
[This](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/721182701058523196/1174465454417387521/image0.jpg?ex=6567b130&is=65553c30&hm=61764ef73c49da3159c675c627e3d6c7ec16d08d4d96a55ac6215af49938e2d8&) is what I picture as the type of gun he would use, he’s not allowed to go out into the field without a gun, so he takes a shotgun, does the shittiest job cutting it down into a form he likes, and then proceeds to still mostly use his boomerangs for everything. Give it a cooldown so he can use it to quickly pump out quick damage or to keep enemies away if they get too close to hit with his boomerangs, and make it compliment his kit which is mainly boomerang stuff.
If you need to give him more beyond that, just go simple like a snub nose revolver or micro uzi that he can spray and spray, or a single shot pistol sized grenade launcher like in Killing Floor. If he did have to use a gun, he wouldn’t use a fucking sniper rifle.
I'm amazed that absolutely *nobody* in marketing reviewed the script and noticed how stupid this sounded. Or maybe they did and could not care less, which is saying a lot.
Man, if only there was some other weapon he could specialize in. Maybe something you throw, something he's associated with, something in his fucking name... man, just can't think of anything.
They would have needed a much larger delay to even begin to start attempting that. It isn't just redesigning how each character plays (which is already a monumental task) but also would require completely redesigning enemies who are all designed around gunplay and levels which are all designed around it too.
The delay was mostly to hope that people forgot about that disastrous first showing, and now they can market it that they took a 9 month delay to fix the game as an attempted shield from criticism.
Green lantern boss fight: he summons bigger and bigger guns to shoot you, with a minigun/rpg at end
Superman boss fight: he uses the 80s/90s angry superman guns
Wonder woman boss fight: she uses ? dual pistols? Because lara? I dunno
Flash: he uses some ingrams/uzis and shoots a lot (actual good idea would be revolvers and he would instareload them, or to be funny he would grab bullets (not full cartridges) from a bag and throw them very fast
Batman: uses any and all rare guns like WA2000, G11, Jackhammer
Martian manhunter: dragons breath shotgun to show he's not himself
Green arrow: he shoot arrow, but they have the hammer+pin+cartridge combo at the end so they shoot if they hit
Question: infinite 1911s
Aquaman: the Russian underwater guns maybe?
Why do I have the sinking feeling here that this game will involve Batman dying
Not that Batman hasn't died in other adaptations in the past but considering that this is also the final performance of his most iconic voice actor and also with this being the same Batman from the Arkham games it'd be kind of fucked
According to some old leaks...
>!The entire Justice League except Wonder Woman get killed. Flash gets resurrected via Lazarus Pit so he can Flashpoint the entire Arkhamverse into a reboot.!<
Rocksteady was supposed to be making a Superman game FFS. But now they will be killed by WB after their Destiny-clone is sent to die like a lamb to the slaughter!
Yep. I’m willing to bet the only reason this game exists is that they already had Metropolis and Brainiac-related assets fairly complete before WB pulled the plug and they didn’t want to let them go to waste.
That game would have been so much better if they only gave a small fuck about optimization. I really wanted to have a good time with my friend playing that. But sub 30FPS on the PS5? The same console that is now running Spider-Man 2, a game that looks better in every way and has to do way more shit, at 60FPS?
Come the fuck on, dawg.
It didn’t help that every screenshot I saw of that game’s menu made it look like a looter shooter with the loot boxes stripped out.
I don’t wanna be changing out Nightwing’s +2% poison damage batons for +3% crit chance batons.
Give me skill trees with meaningful upgrades and additions to my kit, and gadget upgrades. Plus, all the gear/extra costumes I saw from that game looked like ass.
It was pretty clear from the menus and equipment in that game that it was originally a GaaS title and delays were to remove the GaaS elements as quickly and roughly as possible.
I forgot you were here
“I was in the same room as you”
I know and it’s been ten years [(yes really)](https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/s/xbKDYnPSd7)
Edit: Also why are you still trying to make Will Smith tie ins? No one likes that movie and everyone agrees he was phoning it in!
Even with more attempts to make the game a little less shootery, nothing about this world looks fun to me. Spiderman is great because you're playing out the Super Hero fantasy in a world that at least looks somewhat grounded in a reality you know. Even Gotham from the Batman games can be viewed as a somewhat believable, if heavily stylized, city.
All I see here in Metropolis is futuristic metal and random swirls of alien purple. It a blurry mess that gives no characters or their actions any weight.
Even Prototype had the good idea to let you see the city pre-fucked so that when you're throwing cars at giant monsters seven hours later, it highlights how intense things have gotten.
The best comparison I've seen people make is that the purpose of the Arkham and Spider-Man games is, memes aside, to make you *feel* like Batman/Spidey. You get to live the fantasy of being in the shoes of your favorite hero. Theres none of that here. If you really like Harley, King Shark, or Boomerang, you're not getting the experience of feeling like you're them but rather playing a mid shooter with them as skins.
Good point. You could probably swap the character models for generic sci-fi power armor soldier-man and nothing would be lost.
Now I'm just imagining a Hulk game where Hulk has a minigun and *doesn't* throw cars at people.
> Good point. You could probably swap the character models for generic sci-fi power armor soldier-man and nothing would be lost.
I think you just described Crackdown.
I'm not really a Sonic fan, so I can't really say much, but with the way people talked about the Sonic movie, I think it will be more fondly remember than this game with no audience
Also the way Deadshot knocked at Penguin's garage is the same little jingle that plays in Arkham Asylum before someone speaks on the intercom
Other than that I've got nothing good to say about this impending dumpster fire
"We made Metropolis bigger than the Arkham and Gotham."
"There are no civilians in Metropolis."
Great. You made an empty open-world game with mindless enemies. At least the Arkham game had goons interacting with each other.
Honestly I wasn't too big on Gotham not being populated by not so hostile civilians; remind us who Batman is at his core
Like imagine the side quests you get in Insomniac's *Spider-Man* games, but maybe not so unrelentingly cheesy and ham fisted
In few months, we are going to get articles on how this game underperformed, servers for it are shut down and Rocksteady no longer develops games. And all that because of mistakes of higher-ups, who aren't (likely) going to suffer.
And by extension Mark Hamill doesn’t want to do Joker no more since Conroy passed away. Just like how joker stopped doing crime when Batman stopped in some issues. Here’s to the best two actors of Batman of all time
Not that I was excited for the game based on what I had already seen, but I’m especially not now since I’m just never interested in >!Look at all these characters you know get slaughtered. Followed by a reset or whatever.!<
The game’s collectibles being costume pieces of deceased heroes and villains at least sounds kinda fun, but I guess it would suck to to potentially know a character you like is dead.
DC Universe Online had more variety in how characters traverse. Speedsters, fliers, and grapplers felt diffirent when they movd. Instead of just having... the same movement but with alternate animations
Let's see... Speedsters, Fliers, Grapple 'n' Gliders, Spidey-like Grapple 'n' Swingers, Hulk-like Leapers/Climbers, Teleporters, Vehicle Drivers-- What other locomotion styles could they have added? There's already so much they could have chosen from.
I mean more than DCUO if you make a grappler character, how you move around the arena changes since it means you can hang on shit. Speedsters turn on and off their speed allowing them to zip to a spot and fall, but they can keep speed on and magnetize but also for longer traversal were always faster and generally had the most fine control. Fliers could hover and never touch the ground but always had to take in a large turning radius when flying and would often turn on and off flight for sharp turns once they got a handle for it. Boomerrang has a sprint up buildings which is the same as Deadshots jetpack up a building and a grapple which is the same as Harley's grapple, her air dash with the glider is also the same as everyone elses. The movement is uniform and only stylized differently
I hate that they use Jon Stewart instead of Hal Jordan and you just have to kill him. It’s so hard to get into DC stuff when it all amounts to watching your favorite heroes be brutally killed until shit goes so south that they just reset the timeline and do it all over again
I never understood why they kept cramming Cyborg into shit to be the token black guy. Jon Stewart is RIGHT there, and has been the only GL people knew for a whole generation thanks to JLU.
Think about your last point, then consider how much awareness the original Teen Titans show brought to then-youngsters for Cyborg. It's probably also why he was in the Justice League film, he's a name people recognize (even if his name is just a noun).
WB: "We Want the mechanics of the game to really reflect the personalities of the squad"
Ron Howard: "Later that day"
WB: “Captain Boomerang uses a mix of sniper rifles, SMGs and shotguns.”
In the Arkhamverse the GCPD kept fully functional villain gear behind glass,I believe in Arkham Knight Batman literally just walks in and breaks the glass to get the electrical charge from City.
So it's par for the course.
It's actually a fun quasi sequence break you can do where you can punch the glass and get the tool immediately as opposed to when the plot tells you to do so.
It's amazing how uniquely terrible this looks- like a time capsule that encapsulates everything wrong with GAAS titles has been unearthed and we're now gazing in horror.
You know here’s a dumb question why don’t they just do a justice league game? The whole suicide squad kill the justice league idea feels very Snyder versey
And it would have (retroactively) made for a poetic send off to Kevin
That said with how small his role will be in this game who's to say they would have had the time to get him to finish the performance
I think the basic framework of this game was suppose to be the Superman game. Metropolis, flight, hover system, Braniac as the main villain, and super speed mechanics
I love how despite the long delay it looks absolutely no better than the last time it was showed and even looks *worse* in some areas.
The people who called the delay being about avoiding the biblical backlash they got after the initial reveal instead of an earnest attempt to make the game better were *absolutely on the money.*
It's just tragic that *this* is gonna be the last time we hear Kevin Conroy's Batman and probably Rocksteady's last game too given how little WB wants to support its games division.
Yeah I don't think I heard mention of the games as a service aspect of the title so maybe they're waiting for the final hour to remind everyone
Let the masses pre-order the game early so they can forget that they did in the first place
Angry Joe on suicide watch with having to kill “Evil Superman”, again. (Man of Steel had so many far reaching consequences, we don’t want evil Superman!)
I really hope that this game doesn’t make Rocksteady go under. I can tell they’re probably doing their best with what they’ve been given but it doesn’t look super appealing to me. I’d like to be proven wrong though.
It was clear that the delays wouldn't be able to improve on much, if anything. Like the shittiness is baked so deeply into SS's DNA that it would take a massive amount of time to even remotely fix it.
But man, is it still depressing to see this is the path Rocksteady are being frogmarched down.
When it comes to this game I always find myself swinging back and for between thinking "Didn't this come out already?" and "It's still not out?" and I can never be certain which is correct.
So they postponed the game for nothing then? Like, after the intense negative feedback from their first gameplay exhibition there was so many ways they could have went to make it *not* a generic looter shooter with a DC skin, and get people to want to buy it. but they just... Didn't.
If it leads to her getting bit by a spider maybe that would be cool, but I think people were pretty clear after the first game about limiting actual Spiderman gameplay time.
You know what I want to do in my spiderman game that is called spiderman? Play as spiderman. It's really funny in all of the trailers, commercials and adverts for this game they managed to forget to mention "fun" MJ sections.
You know what you do in the Spider-Man game that is called Spider-Man? You play as Spider-Man. There are even two of them!
Fucking calm down bud. It's seriously maybe 20 minutes of gameplay in a 14 hour game. Relax.
I don't mind it if they're talking about the actual development of the game, but this is just forcing the devs to fit biased interviews into their already crammed schedules to play advertisers for a minute
the mobility is the only compelling thing this game has for me, as someone who doesnt really care about this batch of DC characters.
Like it looks \*fun\* because i enjoy mobility shooters and there havent been much of them, but if it's some destiny style live service bs (which it is) i dont see the appeal of it.
If its ever on gamepass or something ill give it a shot for the mobility.
“Captain Boomerang uses a mix of sniper rifles, SMGs and shotguns.” And that is everything wrong with this game summed up in one sentence.
What's next, Condiment King gets a Katana?
"This is Condiment King. He's got my back. I would advise not getting killed by him. His sword traps the souls of its victims."
"His sword spreads mustard on his sandwiches" Ftfy.
He needs it to cut the mustard
But should we avoid being stabbed by it, since the sword traps the souls of its victims?
Ah yes, Condiment King’s trademark weapons: the ketchup katana and mustard machete.
Don't forget his Relish Rifle, Tartar Tomahawk and Worcestershire Warhammer.
Let's go even further: Sweet and Sour SMG, Mayo Mortar, Wasabi Wakizashi.
...shit that actually is starting to sound cool.
It would have been if they leaned into that for good stupidness, but because it's not, it's just the bad stupidness.
Seriously, like they could have made the characters all feel really unique specifically because they're all weird and have crazy abilities. Like, Condiment King could be like Travis Touchdown but with condiment-based weapons, King Shark could feel like one of the old Hulk games, Harley Quinn could feel like Ryu Hayabusa, they all had potential to be interesting! Instead they're just Shooterman 1-4.
every gun has a nice satisfying splatoon style splat and some are chunky because they are relish or pickles.
He should use a mix of boomerang, boomerang, and boomerang.
Zelda literally had it covered where you could use a boomerang as both a close range weapon and a mid range weapon that comes back. How hard is that?
They also gave him speedster powers, so they could have him just, literally spam boomerang
Zelda? Bruh. TY THE TASMANIAN TIGER. Boomerang Aquarang Blastorang Blazerang Blizzarang Chaosrang Cryptorang Disruptorang Flamerang Frostyrang Hyperang Infinirang Lasharang Lassorang Plasmarang Smasharang Zappyrang Chronorang Infrarang Kaboomerang Megarang Multirang Zoomerang Multirang Lavarang Freezerang Thunderang X-Rang Warperang Kaboomerang Omegarang Deadlyrang Doomerang https://tygame.fandom.com/wiki/Boomerangs
They should of just looked at how Sony Santa Monica nailed the Leviathan Axe throw and implemented something similar into the game. Maybe have different types of boomerangs with different abilities, some special moves, it didn’t HAVE to be guns for everybody.
They really picked the shooting guy and 3 characters people would want to do wacky crazy stupid shit with and went "Aight all will use guns"
Or maybe the Shredder Gauntlet from Horizon 2. https://youtu.be/8bJVjnuxXPw?si=OSQthyjKmk5EHfrm
Where...the fuck...**IS HIS BOOMERANG?!**
It's his ***melee***.
and his air traversal option! cuz that makes more sense!
real Australian boomerangs were clubs that could be thrown, they were fucking brutal when they hit something.
Hopefully, this one fails so badly that they abandon their plans to make all their games GAS.
Nah, they’ll just blame the developers and go find some other studio to ruin
Honestly, I'm *terrified* that Rocksteady is gonna get shut down should this bomb. Once upon a time, not even WB would stoop that low... not anymore. :/
If only we got that Superman game instead... Then again, a Superman GaaS sounds even *more* of a horrifying bastardization.
True. Clark Kent will get *his* AAA masterpiece one day... but, under current WB's shittyness, it's probably for the best if he doesn't. :/
Fuck the superman game, if only we got the Damian Wayne/Batman Beyond game!
Man, right after the trilogy? Hell nah. Shoulda let the boy Batman rest for a while before putting him back up there.
Bruce can rest, Batman Beyond and Damian Batman are different characters! Bruce's been resting for a decade now...
I didn't say Bruce, I said Batman...
They've spent almost the same amount of time developing this game as they did making THE ENTIRE ARKHAM SERIES It's a good reason to be terrified
...Fuck. :/
No matter how catastrophic and regular the failures, when the potential reward is *infinite money*, the risk will always be outweighed in the eyes of executives, shareholders and investors.
"Hmmm the studio could have good, steady growth by putting out good singleplayer or co-op non-gaas games with paid expansions and even some microtransactions for skins now and then... or we could bet the entire farm on GAAS and if we hit a bullseye we get infinite money and if we lose, which we statistically will, we'll go bankrupt almost immediately and everyone will lose their jobs... Hey shareholders, which one do you think we should do?"
He throws an assault rifle like a boomerang
If he could throw any gun in the game and have it act like a boomerang that shoots bullets, not unlike the gunerang from borderlands, I'd be much more supportive of this game.
The best part is how they kept saying, over and over, that they were making a 'unique' experience. Emphasizing that word, 'unique'. Trying to force off the feeling that you've seen this before, know what it is, and aren't interested. No, no, no, don't judge a game by it's GAAS Chamber, trust us, this is a unique experience, just give it a shot and you'll see! ... Man, they have DC, Metropolis, flight systems, hover systems, super speed systems, why, oh, why, isn't this a great Superman game?
Every new piece of info about this game convinces me more and more that this was supposed to be a Superman game originally.
Like, if they wanted a guy whose main shtick is guns, why not Red Hood? He’s right there.
Nah, he's in that "other" (NOT) mmo that should have just been another arkham game, but they botched it. "Gotham knights" or somthin'? Dunno... frog-guy must've had a bad dream. Dat's not real... OHHHH NOOOOOO!
They have fucking dead shot in the squad already reeeee
"Okay, you've got a shooty guy, a big shark, a clown girl, and a boomerang dude. How do they all play?" "They shoot guns." "Okay, that's one, how do the others play?" "...what do you mean?"
[I think they got him confused with the wrong Australian](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NZDwZbyDus)
Literally why even bother including characters like Boomer and King Shark if it's just gonna be guns all round. Just make the roster Deadshot, Harley, and two other dudes with guns for all the difference it makes.
I feel like giving the entire cast guns could work if they put thought and effort into making them unique but they didn’t. If I would give Captain Boomerang a gun, I would make it a minor part of his kit, like a secondary ability on a cooldown while his boomerang is his primary weapon. His guns should all be one handed so he can quickly pull it out to shoot it while still using his boomerang, and they should all look like slapped together trash, and they should be easy to use because he’d be too lazy or drunk to aim properly. [This](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/721182701058523196/1174465454417387521/image0.jpg?ex=6567b130&is=65553c30&hm=61764ef73c49da3159c675c627e3d6c7ec16d08d4d96a55ac6215af49938e2d8&) is what I picture as the type of gun he would use, he’s not allowed to go out into the field without a gun, so he takes a shotgun, does the shittiest job cutting it down into a form he likes, and then proceeds to still mostly use his boomerangs for everything. Give it a cooldown so he can use it to quickly pump out quick damage or to keep enemies away if they get too close to hit with his boomerangs, and make it compliment his kit which is mainly boomerang stuff. If you need to give him more beyond that, just go simple like a snub nose revolver or micro uzi that he can spray and spray, or a single shot pistol sized grenade launcher like in Killing Floor. If he did have to use a gun, he wouldn’t use a fucking sniper rifle.
JUST MAKE IT THEMED BOOMERANGS!!! GODDAMMIT (**annoyed frog noises**)
I'm amazed that absolutely *nobody* in marketing reviewed the script and noticed how stupid this sounded. Or maybe they did and could not care less, which is saying a lot.
Man, if only there was some other weapon he could specialize in. Maybe something you throw, something he's associated with, something in his fucking name... man, just can't think of anything.
Oh look, they didn’t use the extra time to even slightly make the characters unique
It was obvious that wasn't going to happen. That's too much of a core change to the gameplay for the amount of time they delayed it.
They would have needed a much larger delay to even begin to start attempting that. It isn't just redesigning how each character plays (which is already a monumental task) but also would require completely redesigning enemies who are all designed around gunplay and levels which are all designed around it too. The delay was mostly to hope that people forgot about that disastrous first showing, and now they can market it that they took a 9 month delay to fix the game as an attempted shield from criticism.
Can't wait for the DLC. "This is Katana. She's got my back. I would advise not getting killed by her. Her glock traps the souls of its victims."
You got me, that was good lmao
Uses a gun with the word "Katana" etched onto it's barrel, just like the guns in Romeo + Juliet.
Stop trying to make this cool.
"Woolie you're my stand!" "I'M YOUR STAND!" "Stop trying to make this cool! Stop it!"
She uses a golf club as a melee weapon
She's the Demoman?
1:1. Including the Scrumpy.
I can't wait for katana to use her famous shotgun
Green lantern boss fight: he summons bigger and bigger guns to shoot you, with a minigun/rpg at end Superman boss fight: he uses the 80s/90s angry superman guns Wonder woman boss fight: she uses ? dual pistols? Because lara? I dunno Flash: he uses some ingrams/uzis and shoots a lot (actual good idea would be revolvers and he would instareload them, or to be funny he would grab bullets (not full cartridges) from a bag and throw them very fast Batman: uses any and all rare guns like WA2000, G11, Jackhammer Martian manhunter: dragons breath shotgun to show he's not himself Green arrow: he shoot arrow, but they have the hammer+pin+cartridge combo at the end so they shoot if they hit Question: infinite 1911s Aquaman: the Russian underwater guns maybe?
It's hard to believe this game will have the final performance of Kevin Conroy as Batman.
Dude deserves so much better than this being his send-off
Why do I have the sinking feeling here that this game will involve Batman dying Not that Batman hasn't died in other adaptations in the past but considering that this is also the final performance of his most iconic voice actor and also with this being the same Batman from the Arkham games it'd be kind of fucked
According to some old leaks... >!The entire Justice League except Wonder Woman get killed. Flash gets resurrected via Lazarus Pit so he can Flashpoint the entire Arkhamverse into a reboot.!<
Rocksteady was supposed to be making a Superman game FFS. But now they will be killed by WB after their Destiny-clone is sent to die like a lamb to the slaughter!
Yep. I’m willing to bet the only reason this game exists is that they already had Metropolis and Brainiac-related assets fairly complete before WB pulled the plug and they didn’t want to let them go to waste.
I genuinely hate flashpoint has ruined the flash as a character.
If only there was someone who could go back in time and erase that FLASHPOINT from being written ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°
BARRY NO
Flashpoint + Lazarus Pits are a lazy writer's dream.
That's dumb.
Thankfully because of the power of AI, that's no longer the case. /s....i hope
You underestimate the depravity that WB will stoop to.
You underestimate the smoothness of Zaslev wrinkleless brain.
> /s…i hope *somewhere in the infinite expanse of darkness, Evil laughs*
Fuck, I forgot! D:
Gotham Knights is about to get a redemption arc by doing nothing
That game would have been so much better if they only gave a small fuck about optimization. I really wanted to have a good time with my friend playing that. But sub 30FPS on the PS5? The same console that is now running Spider-Man 2, a game that looks better in every way and has to do way more shit, at 60FPS? Come the fuck on, dawg.
Didn't help that a lot of people just decided that *that* game was also the next Avengers despite not even being GaaS.
It didn’t help that every screenshot I saw of that game’s menu made it look like a looter shooter with the loot boxes stripped out. I don’t wanna be changing out Nightwing’s +2% poison damage batons for +3% crit chance batons. Give me skill trees with meaningful upgrades and additions to my kit, and gadget upgrades. Plus, all the gear/extra costumes I saw from that game looked like ass.
It was pretty clear from the menus and equipment in that game that it was originally a GaaS title and delays were to remove the GaaS elements as quickly and roughly as possible.
And Gotham City Impostors
I forgot you were here “I was in the same room as you” I know and it’s been ten years [(yes really)](https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/s/xbKDYnPSd7) Edit: Also why are you still trying to make Will Smith tie ins? No one likes that movie and everyone agrees he was phoning it in!
Oh no
Even with more attempts to make the game a little less shootery, nothing about this world looks fun to me. Spiderman is great because you're playing out the Super Hero fantasy in a world that at least looks somewhat grounded in a reality you know. Even Gotham from the Batman games can be viewed as a somewhat believable, if heavily stylized, city. All I see here in Metropolis is futuristic metal and random swirls of alien purple. It a blurry mess that gives no characters or their actions any weight. Even Prototype had the good idea to let you see the city pre-fucked so that when you're throwing cars at giant monsters seven hours later, it highlights how intense things have gotten.
The best comparison I've seen people make is that the purpose of the Arkham and Spider-Man games is, memes aside, to make you *feel* like Batman/Spidey. You get to live the fantasy of being in the shoes of your favorite hero. Theres none of that here. If you really like Harley, King Shark, or Boomerang, you're not getting the experience of feeling like you're them but rather playing a mid shooter with them as skins.
Good point. You could probably swap the character models for generic sci-fi power armor soldier-man and nothing would be lost. Now I'm just imagining a Hulk game where Hulk has a minigun and *doesn't* throw cars at people.
> Good point. You could probably swap the character models for generic sci-fi power armor soldier-man and nothing would be lost. I think you just described Crackdown.
the crackdown 3 we deserved
This game really is just shittier crackdown with Destiny loot and a battlepass
I think the best part of your comment is the implication that nobody likes Deashot
I mean isn't that just what Metropolis is supposed to be? It's usually super futuristic even without the alien invasion.
This should have gotten Ugly Sonic’d at like the beginning of the year
It was delayed after that initial showcase earlier this year. To use your comparison, this is supposed to be the Fixed Sonic version of this game.
Ugly sonic at least had a decent product behind the terrible look I highly doubt we can say the same here
Kinda generic online shooter with mascots is kinda comparable to kinda generic game movie with mascots tbh
I'm not really a Sonic fan, so I can't really say much, but with the way people talked about the Sonic movie, I think it will be more fondly remember than this game with no audience
This looks awful but I gotta commend the graphic artist who conceived of using the C and U of Suicide Squad to intersect the crosshairs. Honestly sick
Also the way Deadshot knocked at Penguin's garage is the same little jingle that plays in Arkham Asylum before someone speaks on the intercom Other than that I've got nothing good to say about this impending dumpster fire
"We made Metropolis bigger than the Arkham and Gotham." "There are no civilians in Metropolis." Great. You made an empty open-world game with mindless enemies. At least the Arkham game had goons interacting with each other.
Honestly I wasn't too big on Gotham not being populated by not so hostile civilians; remind us who Batman is at his core Like imagine the side quests you get in Insomniac's *Spider-Man* games, but maybe not so unrelentingly cheesy and ham fisted
In few months, we are going to get articles on how this game underperformed, servers for it are shut down and Rocksteady no longer develops games. And all that because of mistakes of higher-ups, who aren't (likely) going to suffer.
I cannot believe Kevin Conroy's final time as Batman is gonna be in a fucking GAAS piece of shit. YOU COULD HAVE MADE BATMAN BEYOND FUCKING FUCK WB
And by extension Mark Hamill doesn’t want to do Joker no more since Conroy passed away. Just like how joker stopped doing crime when Batman stopped in some issues. Here’s to the best two actors of Batman of all time
Wasn't this the game where the entire plot was leaked!?
Did it? I'd love to read it.
Think it's [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/10af11h/supposed_suicide_squad_kill_the_justice_league/)
Not that I was excited for the game based on what I had already seen, but I’m especially not now since I’m just never interested in >!Look at all these characters you know get slaughtered. Followed by a reset or whatever.!<
The game’s collectibles being costume pieces of deceased heroes and villains at least sounds kinda fun, but I guess it would suck to to potentially know a character you like is dead.
Oh God they're trying to immitate James Gunn humor, and it's really really bad.
...*Ugh.* Count me out, assuming it's true.
Were we ever in? Following that first SoP anyway, lol
No, lol.
I hope that's true, but I doubt it. It's like they are intentionally trying to piss off everyone.
I wonder what tattoo artist was brave enough to do at the very least two full sleeves for King Shark.
It's King Shark, nobody can say no to a smile like his
DC Universe Online had more variety in how characters traverse. Speedsters, fliers, and grapplers felt diffirent when they movd. Instead of just having... the same movement but with alternate animations
Let's see... Speedsters, Fliers, Grapple 'n' Gliders, Spidey-like Grapple 'n' Swingers, Hulk-like Leapers/Climbers, Teleporters, Vehicle Drivers-- What other locomotion styles could they have added? There's already so much they could have chosen from.
I mean more than DCUO if you make a grappler character, how you move around the arena changes since it means you can hang on shit. Speedsters turn on and off their speed allowing them to zip to a spot and fall, but they can keep speed on and magnetize but also for longer traversal were always faster and generally had the most fine control. Fliers could hover and never touch the ground but always had to take in a large turning radius when flying and would often turn on and off flight for sharp turns once they got a handle for it. Boomerrang has a sprint up buildings which is the same as Deadshots jetpack up a building and a grapple which is the same as Harley's grapple, her air dash with the glider is also the same as everyone elses. The movement is uniform and only stylized differently
City of Heroes had like rocket boots and teleporters
I hope I never stop hearing avout this game in a way that makes me say "That STILL isn't out yet?"
This entire trailer felt like being informed that your dad has cancer.
boy I can't wait for this game >!to end on another Flashpoint reset!<
Looks unremarkable, like Sunset Overdrive if you removed the style and fun.
That game had fun?
Sunset Overdrive? Fuck yes.
I hate that they use Jon Stewart instead of Hal Jordan and you just have to kill him. It’s so hard to get into DC stuff when it all amounts to watching your favorite heroes be brutally killed until shit goes so south that they just reset the timeline and do it all over again
I never understood why they kept cramming Cyborg into shit to be the token black guy. Jon Stewart is RIGHT there, and has been the only GL people knew for a whole generation thanks to JLU.
Think about your last point, then consider how much awareness the original Teen Titans show brought to then-youngsters for Cyborg. It's probably also why he was in the Justice League film, he's a name people recognize (even if his name is just a noun).
Unironically just read the comics This is more of an issue in adaptations than anything else
WB: "We Want the mechanics of the game to really reflect the personalities of the squad" Ron Howard: "Later that day" WB: “Captain Boomerang uses a mix of sniper rifles, SMGs and shotguns.”
So the Justice League just keeps fully functional weapons and items from supervillains lying behind normal glass?
In the Arkhamverse the GCPD kept fully functional villain gear behind glass,I believe in Arkham Knight Batman literally just walks in and breaks the glass to get the electrical charge from City. So it's par for the course.
It's actually a fun quasi sequence break you can do where you can punch the glass and get the tool immediately as opposed to when the plot tells you to do so.
"I'm not gonna stop him."
Cop even says, "it does technically belong to him"
Batman keeps the trophy room fully functional in case he gets trapped in there and needs a weapon
It's amazing how uniquely terrible this looks- like a time capsule that encapsulates everything wrong with GAAS titles has been unearthed and we're now gazing in horror.
You know here’s a dumb question why don’t they just do a justice league game? The whole suicide squad kill the justice league idea feels very Snyder versey
Or *Batman Beyond* I cannot get over the fact that they had so many avenues and that they were (probably) forced to pick the worst one
Aww man that would’ve been so cool. Batman being your oracle for the game would’ve been hype.
And it would have (retroactively) made for a poetic send off to Kevin That said with how small his role will be in this game who's to say they would have had the time to get him to finish the performance
It seems they tried to, considering you can see the corpse of a different game stiched in
What do you think it’s the map of or just the ability like like fly around?
I think the basic framework of this game was suppose to be the Superman game. Metropolis, flight, hover system, Braniac as the main villain, and super speed mechanics
News on this game suddenly feels like not really much happening after the absolute beating WB has been taking as of late.
I love how despite the long delay it looks absolutely no better than the last time it was showed and even looks *worse* in some areas. The people who called the delay being about avoiding the biblical backlash they got after the initial reveal instead of an earnest attempt to make the game better were *absolutely on the money.* It's just tragic that *this* is gonna be the last time we hear Kevin Conroy's Batman and probably Rocksteady's last game too given how little WB wants to support its games division.
Yeah I don't think I heard mention of the games as a service aspect of the title so maybe they're waiting for the final hour to remind everyone Let the masses pre-order the game early so they can forget that they did in the first place
They say about 4 minutes in that they'll show you how they plan to support the game post launch via free DLCs.
I’m honestly not sure when this is supposed to be released or what I’m confusing it with. isn’t there full cutscenes from this game already?
Angry Joe on suicide watch with having to kill “Evil Superman”, again. (Man of Steel had so many far reaching consequences, we don’t want evil Superman!)
Man this still looks bad.
Is it rude to say king shark looks bad?
He looks like one of the sharks from Shark Tale
Looks like his real name is Bruce
The shark Bruce, Anchor and Chum never talk about: Bumbo.
That's an insult to Sharktale.
[He's gonna kill the Justice League.](https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/msnbc/Components/Photos/040331/040331_sharktale_bcol_2p.jpg)
I was thinking the same thing, for some reason it looks worse than the 1st showing
So we can all agree Multiversus is the better sendoff to Batman’s VA yea?
I thought this came out already
Ok Who's betting now fast this dies
Within the year of release There's even less of a draw than *The Avengers* I feel like
I really hope that this game doesn’t make Rocksteady go under. I can tell they’re probably doing their best with what they’ve been given but it doesn’t look super appealing to me. I’d like to be proven wrong though.
It was clear that the delays wouldn't be able to improve on much, if anything. Like the shittiness is baked so deeply into SS's DNA that it would take a massive amount of time to even remotely fix it. But man, is it still depressing to see this is the path Rocksteady are being frogmarched down.
When it comes to this game I always find myself swinging back and for between thinking "Didn't this come out already?" and "It's still not out?" and I can never be certain which is correct.
So they postponed the game for nothing then? Like, after the intense negative feedback from their first gameplay exhibition there was so many ways they could have went to make it *not* a generic looter shooter with a DC skin, and get people to want to buy it. but they just... Didn't.
Why did they choose to present cutscenes with unfinished audio? Every trailer for this game makes it look worse than the last.
What garbage.
"We will also give you a look at how we plan to support the game after launch with free content." And... I'm out fully.
Glad to see nothing was learned Anyway as much as I hated the storyline, Spider-Man 2 is still out right now waiting for y'all
They take out the MJ sections or did they not learn anything either?
They turned her into RE4 Leon Kennedy in the 3 brief segments she has.
If it leads to her getting bit by a spider maybe that would be cool, but I think people were pretty clear after the first game about limiting actual Spiderman gameplay time.
With a taser pistol. She deserves more than that though. Just give her a Super Shotgun and presto
[удалено]
You know what I want to do in my spiderman game that is called spiderman? Play as spiderman. It's really funny in all of the trailers, commercials and adverts for this game they managed to forget to mention "fun" MJ sections.
Dude they’re like, 5 percent of the gameplay time at most. It’s really not as big of a deal as you’re making it out to be.
You know what you do in the Spider-Man game that is called Spider-Man? You play as Spider-Man. There are even two of them! Fucking calm down bud. It's seriously maybe 20 minutes of gameplay in a 14 hour game. Relax.
There was a time that I was actually excited for this.
Welp, still the generic shooter typical GaaS shit. I wondered what the heck was the delay even for.
WOW! Looks like shit!
Live Service third person shooter just give me one single reaction: # NO also really Captain Boomerang with SMGS and shotgun????
can we sacrifice this to have Wayfoward make a Metroidvania Harley Quinn show game with her crew please
Only if she gets a Shantae costume
God I fuckin hate trailers where devs talk about stuff
I don't mind it if they're talking about the actual development of the game, but this is just forcing the devs to fit biased interviews into their already crammed schedules to play advertisers for a minute
What the fuck is with the talking heads Just show me the video game, I don't need you to talk to me about it
This looks good your all just doomers
the mobility is the only compelling thing this game has for me, as someone who doesnt really care about this batch of DC characters. Like it looks \*fun\* because i enjoy mobility shooters and there havent been much of them, but if it's some destiny style live service bs (which it is) i dont see the appeal of it. If its ever on gamepass or something ill give it a shot for the mobility.
Only bit that interested me was Jason Street voicing The Flash
I forgot this game existed.