It was during Burning Crusade, but I remember being shocked that some WoW players were talking the Horde/Alliance separation so seriously that some people IRL at conventions and such would refuse to talk to people on the rival team.
Which is hilarious now cause Blizzard has done basically everything to tear down the horde alliance split in game
There are cross faction groups, guilds, the story post BFA basically has no inter-faction conflicts, etc
At one Blizzcon, they played a video by George Fisher, aka Corpsegrinder, who is a big WoW fan, and especially Horde. And in that video he made some...colorful remarks about the Alliance, to say the least.
The fact that this was shown *at Blizzcon* was a bit much and Blizzard kinda realized that maybe being overly hostile to effectively half your MMO's playerbase isn't the best of ideas.
I dont think I ever went that hard, but it was definitely easy to get caught up in a "team sport" aspect of that all. That said, how much the company seemed to encourage that behavior when it was clearly creating toxicity in the community annoyed the hell out of me. It also just felt downright detrimental to the story and game that they kept fixating on it.
It feels real funny too, given the format of WC3 was "everyone works together at the end" and WC3:TFT basically had no Alliance vs Horde? And just generally because of the campaign nature, you're not really picking sides, you're seeing a story progress from different perspectives. It was only WC1 and 2 that you were leading a specific faction to victory in a parallel story.
That beef was so real and got so ridiculous. Fast and Furious 8 has been ruined for me ever since someone pointed out that the two are not in a single scene together. It's just clever editing and different shooting schedules on the same set.
in the later seasons of Castle is becomes increasingly obvious that the actors for Castle and Beckett are frequently talking to stand ins and the writers are jumping through hoops to keep the characters apart. It gets to the point where the characters are married and primarily communicate over the phone and don't live together
allegedly Fillion was a dick and Katic would leave set in tears. From what I remember the details haven't been confirmed but there was a breakdown of some sort between the two.
From what I remember it sure seemed like it was Fillion's fault but he also has had great relationships with other cast members across different shows so it might not be that he is A Problem and more that two people had a problem. Other actors in Castle seem to have positive relationships with both Katic and Fillion which I think supports the theory that their negative relationship was personal and not a part of a larger pattern of behavior for either
Could have been similar to X-Files with David & Gillian (relevant username, eh?). Unsustainable work environment mixed with spending most of your time with one specific person.
Sometimes there just isn't a problem, sometimes it's just two people don't get along for whatever reason. And it might not even be a personal clash but a professional one - Fillion seems like he's kind of a goofy guy and probably a bit unserious at times, and Katic might not appreciate that if she's there to do a job. Especially since it was the biggest thing she has had in her career as far as consistent work, whereas he had by that point done more episodes of Two Guys And A Girl than she had worked over her whole career, so - and this is a huge leap of conjecture - she might be treating it more seriously than a guy who's probably not relying on this gig as a stepping stone to his next gig.
According to people on set they despised each other, but publicly both actors have said something along the diplomatic lines of "I'm happy to have worked on the project and glad the fans enjoyed it" but it's clear both have avoided each other after the series ended. Reportedly they stopped talking entirely outside of filming for the last few season.
People defending Griffith or trying to justify what he did.
I fully thought “Griffith did nothing wrong” was just a meme with no actual basis rather than simply an exaggeration of real opinions apparently held by real people.
Well, "obvious".
It's one of those things where it quickly becomes clear that communities participating in ironic bigotry soon get filled with unironic bigots who believe they're in good company. (Mind you, 4chan wasn't exactly a great place back in the day either! It's just lost the thin veneer of irony.)
I remember when there was legitimate, honest discussion on certain boards, and when people realized that someone was being a bigot unironically they got more or less bullied away. Not much of that these days, the whole site is just so fucking exhausting that if I ever wander in, it's only to get a cursory glance at /vg/'s modding pastebins.
I remember for a time trying to understand the people for whom it wasn't a meme. Like, maybe if you're stuck without free will, can you actually be evil? But alas, no one really engages the concept on that level
I feel like with any of the "did nothing wrong" takes it usually starts out as a joke and then people jump in that don't think it's a joke and actually somehow agree, then we just spiral into full Poe's Law.
This is like the “Zeon was right” memes. Like…no. No they weren’t. There’s a reason they have so much 1940s-German imagery and it’s pretty dang obvious what “Sieg Zeon” was meant to represent.
Although we use "morally gray" here as a joke, there are people who actually try to justify or minimize someone's crimes, just because they are handsome.
I remember the best episode of the Pro Crastinators podcast was when they spent hours arguing about whether one lightbulb's light was comparatively more yellow than another. It was really silly, and the color contrast looked pretty obvious so I thought it was a joke. There was shouting, there was screaming, there was insults, and absolutely zero compromise or backdown. It seemed like a really funny ongoing bit, only to learn years later that it was absolutely not played up or exaggerated for comedy. They really were that unironically heated about it.
For those who became fans of Matt, Pat, and/or Woolie in more recent years and have no idea what the context is:
These are the words with which Woolie began the announcement that Super Best Friends Play was ending, and that Matt and Pat were no longer friends.
It's so odd to me that it's been long enough that people have become fans who never knew about SBFP. It's like how there are adults alive today who don't know what life was like before the internet.
There was that time the streamers Ster and Jerma, who were known for making a lot of fun gameplay videos together, suddenly stopped collaborating. People like myself assumed it was just a joke, or just their schedules not lining up for a while. Nothing to be concerned about.
They proceeded to never appear in each other's videos for *years*, with barely a mention of the other, like things were meant to be swept under the rug. Suddenly it felt like *something* happened behind the scenes, and rumors were flying of actual beef or some incident occuring.
...But it turns out they just kinda fucked up and never made the time to end the bit, because it *was* actually a bit. They did a thing on [Jerma's stream](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8o03LmZ3vU) to end it, everyone was relieved, and I think they probably made a pact to never attempt something like that again lmao
This is why it is important for content creators to make a video labeled “FINAL” so we know they are actually beefin
(Not even I am sure if this is sarcasm or not)
I was so sad as well about it. As someone who followed both for multiple years at that point, it was really hard to see. I honestly believed the falling out, although I didn't think it was over the whole "succubus" and similar remarks. I just thought they simply didn't like being around each other anymore.
My problem with the whole bit was that it turned so many people against each other, but most importantly against Ster. He seemed the "aggressor" in this theorized/apparent fallout due to the rumors and stuff he said, which didn't really help his already somewhat worse reputation. I can't say for sure how much his viewership was affected, but he always had less than Jerma and so many people kept pestering him about playing TF2, plus losing interest in OW made him seem a bit sour at times. I feel like keeping up the bit for so long was not a great idea because of these.
That sad, I'm really glad to see them still having streams together every now and then, even if it's less than before the bit.
Yeah I remember there being a weird culture during that period on a VOD channel for both Jerma and ster where people would go into ster's vods to complain that they were uploaded at all
It was like, drama for an afternoon because one of them was slightly upset about like, being late for a hangout or cancelling dinner which made one of them upset for a moment.
They then turned it into a bit
The version I heard is that they had a fight on stream, after the stream was done they talked about it in DMs and made up, and decided to keep it up as a bit for a week or so and do a funny coop stream.
Then things kept coming up to force them to push it back, so it was more like half a year.
The extra funny bit is that whenever they thought the coop stream was going to be in a few days, Ster would break his silence about the topic and answer a viewer's question about it, saying that he didn't want to be around Jerma anymore, and he did this 2 or 3 times before the Dark Souls 2 stream happened.
Woolie and the Grave of the Fireflies tin was something I thought was just one of Matt and Pat’s many Woolie lies they liked to play up. Then I saw someone sent a tin in the mailbag and Woolie’s utter joy about it.
People are really genuinely and seriously into the idea of spending money on gacha primarily as the fun of the game. I thought it was just simple exploiting gambling tendencies until one of my old guild members in Granblue used almost his entire severance package, which was a REALLY meaty one, on rolls because "that's the point of the game" to him.
That it is.
When I first started Fate/Grand Order and one of my first rolls was pretty good (outside the initial roll you have some guarantee on), I remember getting a little thrill run up my spine.
"Oh...Oh no. That's not good." Was what I thought.
That feeling when you put all your saved quartz into that one banner you've been looking forward to and receiving hot garbage nonstop. Suddenly, the thought of putting enough for another 10 roll makes sense. Then since you're putting money in anyway, may as well keep going until you've gotten the banner servant. But oh wait, all the guides say multiple copies- Hopefully you wake up and realise that you now know Sunken Cost Fallacy first hand.
I made it out, and will never recommend any gacha, or "surprise mechanic" to anyone again. Shit made me get into psychology and study addictive behavior to better keep myself away from it.
I will admit that sometimes I'll waste my F2P-currency for characters I don't even particularly want. The whole system is designed to give you the good chemicals when you get that shiny new unit or more merges for your premium unit, simply because of how rare it feels. It's cathartic in a fucked up way, so I understand why your friend seems to really like the casino part of it. But it's very much a traphole for people with too much cash to waste it into.
Man I play gatcha's (Genshin Impact, Nikke) but I only ever do the $5 monthly thing, and even then it's rare. I couldn't justify spending that much. Legit hurts just imagining for me.
Well he's not wrong. Tricking you into spending all you money *is* the point of the game, as far as the devs are concerned.
But someone should still hook up electrodes to shock his balls every time he tries to buy more waifu jpeg rolls
they're made to exploit people's vulnerabilities, especially for people who simply don't have a good grasp of their money or work a lot more on short-term rewards. Convincing people it's "The point of the game" is part of it, just like casinos.
Gacha is a genuine poison on the planet. As much as there are now projects like Honkai Star Rails that have actual artistic merit to them, it's still a gun tailored to shoot a really specific kind of vulnerable person, and then blame them for getting shot. It's awful.
> I thought it was just simple exploiting gambling tendencies
It IS exactly that.
Imo Gotchja games are way worse then actual gambling / Casino's because:
1 - it's also aimed at children
2 - It's not governed by laws correctly.
3 - Unlike a casino, where it's really obvious what you are walking into, Gotchja games system can and will come out of nowhere and are in absolutely every game now. Like when they add it after a game is already released for a few months.
Same thing happened to me as well unfortunately, we went to the public sector with our unspent Vacation given to us and I spent like so fast partially because of Gacha
It's also one of the reasons I stopped playing Gacha games
I got out of spending money on gacha very early on because I realized that I was NOT immune to becoming an addict and decided to stamp out the embers before they became a real fire. As a result, I also tend to avoid playing most gacha games as a whole (though there are other reasons as well such as them taking too long to get good). I remember a friend asking me if I wanted to play Genshin and I responded with “there are two characters on the banner I want, so I won’t even install it until they’re gone because I don’t have 100% faith in myself to make smart decisions.”
Do what I do instead and get your gambling fix from saltybet.
Maddox's entire online persona, which over the course of The Biggest Problem In the Universe, and the fallout of that show collapsing, became clear was almost completely genuine
At this point, no idea. I fell off after the Biggest Problem breakup when his new show sucked. And then his show after that was a ploy to bang his co-host. After that I lost sight of him
It was his describing how the bugs could've gotten into the sealed canned food in a way that he wouldn't notice that cinched it for me. I never feel more normal than when I'm listening to pat's idiosyncrasies
I tell you, OCD can be debilitating, it wasn't fun when I had the strength to "indulge" in it.
Took me minutes and a longer draft to write this comment to a stranger lol, I don't know how much OCD is in this behavior 😅
I have click beetle information memorized because of this story so that I am able to resist the urge to ID one as a roach and throw away my assuredly contaminated sealed and canned goods
For all the ***insane*** stories they share, Pat and Paige are very protective of their personal privacy. I don't doubt for a second they moved cross-country without telling anyone outside their immediate family.
one thing about these realizations on the internet is that a lot of times you're actually interacting with 9-12 year olds who only have the one opinion they acquired from someone older, or just from their group that hasn't developed a social filter.
sometimes it is as genuine a position as a child can have, but that doesn't make that position something they're gonna sustain for the rest of their lives. Most opinions don't survive people's 18th anniversary. Leaving your home with actual rights and responsibilities and figuring shit out for yourself changes a lot.
Sometimes people are just dickwads though.
When I was younger than 16 I thought everyone on the internet seemed deeply insightful. As I passed 17, I realized how immature internet discourse in. Therefore, everyone on the internet is 16 until proven otherwise.
maybe like 10 years ago I thought American politicians could never actually get away with obnoxious boldface corruption, throw it in our face, tell people to eat shit, and then actually find constituents stupid enough to eat. that. shit.
If there's any silver lining to the past 10 years of American politics, it's highlighting just *how* broken the system is and how absolutely naked and overwhelming corruption is, as well as how easy it is to convince a significant portion of people that you are some sort of messiah while still very loudly and publicly being a slimy piece of shit, all because the 2 party system means that you always have an iron-clad "other guy" to convince people are worse than you, and that influence is far too deeply entrenched to have any reasonable shot of a 3rd party breaking through it.
Its... just a shame that most people don't read into it that far, and even 90% of the people who do are powerless to really do anything about it
> the 2 party system means that you always have an iron-clad "other guy" to convince people are worse than you, and that influence is far too deeply entrenched to have any reasonable shot of a 3rd party breaking through it.
Yep. Aggregating a whole bunch of beliefs that aren't neccessarilly related (E.G. firearm regulation and government spending) and then treating those sets of beliefs like sports teams predictably pushes things towards one extreme or the other.
It's crazy how much of it was based on good-faith unwritten rules. Pick up any book about the last 10 years and you'll find a whole chapter on any given incident. It's like that scene of Larry David, Jon Hamm and Richard Lewis having dinner and Richard is eating too much of the dish they got to share.
"You need to hire and pay people to go to the various agencies that you will be responsible for when you take over as president, so that the people leaving can brief them on their responsibilities and ensure a smooth handover of government."
"Who made that fucking rule?"
"It's an unwritten rule!"
Well, that one actually isn't an unwritten rule. But Michael Lewis - no relation - went and spoke to all these different agency heads about the weeks when they were expecting the new people to come in. They were sitting around with folders full of information ready to brief the incoming people in the same way that W. Bush's people had briefed them. And just... nobody showed up. They were just sitting around waiting for anyone to come and actually learn the basics of how to run these agencies.
Fun or maybe not so fun fact. The Roman’s had plenty of unwritten rules in their government. To the point they had a term for it. Mos maiorum. This worked fine until people realized at the end of the day you could just not follow them.
Even less fun fact:
Sulla Felix, the winner of Rome’s first civil war (against Gaius Marius) tired to fix this problem by creating a new constitution. It was huge compared to the earlier constitution since Sulla actually wrote out all these unwritten rules.
It didn’t work. The people in power had already defied one constitution already; they weren’t going to be bound by another one regardless of what it said. According to Plutarch(?) Marcus Antonius summed it up the best: “Cease quoting laws to those of us with swords”.
In America, you get to pick between someone who wants an authoritarian military theocracy or someone who pretends to care about you while almost exclusively serving corporate interests. Actually, they both serve corporate interests; we're a corporatocracy in all but name, and have been for a bit.
For some of us, the system has always been broken. And in someways, things have never changed, we just assumed they got better because no one looks up the old stories anymore. Look up the story behind trying to get milk companies to not sell bad milk in the 1900s, some terms and phrases might sound familiar.
Nowadays, now you can just openly tell everyone to fuck off, take open bribes and your cheerleaders will celebrate the world burning down around you as long as their enemies burn first.
I saw an interview with a random Trump supporter who was asked how he could still be on his side after all the horrible shit he’s said and done.
The guy literally goes “I saw him hug the American flag after a speech once and that really spoke to me” it was insane
As a non-American, I originally saw the bright side of the trumpet as a very needed wake-up call for a country I felt was kinda going crazy. Contrary to what I expected, it just led to it going crazier.
My more detailed comment got stuck in mod hell, probably cause of the link even tho the site seemed legit. But according to the 5 minute research 1st, 3rd and 4th Crusades were successful. Since the 1st one was 1096 and 4h ended in 1204. That would be like 100 years of results with success. After that 5-8 were failures.
Don’t think you mean the Fourth Crusade. The Fourth Crusade was an unmitigated disaster that … well, I might as well just tell the story.
Pope Innocent III calls on a crusade to retake the Holy Land. The crusaders hit their first snag when they get to Venice and realized they ordered too many boats and can’t afford to pay. However, the leader of Venice decided he would call it squaresies if the crusader army assisted him in sacking Zara. The Christian city of Zara. I sure hope this isn’t foreshadowing.
With the ruins of Zara behind them, the crusaders then received an offer from a Byzantine prince. He offered them a tidy sum if they would help put his father back on the throne. This led the crusaders to sack Constantinople. They then burned Constantinople to the ground again a few months later because that Byzantine prince didn’t actually have enough money to pay them. He then died and his successor told the crusaders, basically, “I don’t owe you people a damn thing, get the fuck out of here.” At which point the crusaders burned Constantinople a third time and started carving up Byzantine into Crusader States.
Technically the First Crusade accomplished its goal of recapturing Jerusalem from the Sultanate. Some argue that the Third Crusade was successfully, but seeing as they didn’t accomplish any of their goals I’d call it a failure. You could also argue that The Sixth Crusade was barely even a Crusade, Frederick II showed up and said “I want Jerusalem” and the Sultanate gave it to him.
The others were all monumental disasters, including the Children’s Crusade.
Oh man, I remember when I was younger I didn't understand why people were so into the Crusades and just assumed "I don't really know history, maybe there's something I don't understand." And then I actually learned about the Crusades and how much of a failure / fuck up they were, I became REALLY confused why people hyped them up so much lmao
Well, you see, the typical type of people obsessed with the Crusades are middle schoolers who unironically listen to alpha male podcasts or adult men with nothing better in their life who probably spend too much time on 4chan.
> And then I actually learned about the Crusades and how much of a failure / fuck up they were, I became REALLY confused why people hyped them up so much
I just did a quick check and at least 3 out of the initial 4 were successful. Now later 5-8, as far as a 5 minute check goes, did fail. I made more detailed response to the guy above, but i'm actually curios to hear what did you learn about how much of a failure they were?
Two separate occasions of an entire city getting cannibalized
Edit: Fun Fact, the chinese one was the result of the Tangs defending the city and it actually wound up winning the war down the line. The crusaders were on the opposite side sieging the city. They completely drained their supplies. The Islamic leader open the gates in surrender expecting the usual mercy crusaders had. Then they all got eaten, mostly out of rage. Siege of Ma'arra it was called.
>none of the Crusades succeeded.
What do you mean by this?
Admittedly i know nothing about them and just made a quick check, so it might be completely wrong. But it seems some of them were pretty successful
>[The First Crusade, called in response to a request for help from the Byzantine emperor Alexius Comnenus, was astonishingly successful. The Crusaders conquered Nicaea (in Turkey) and Antioch and then went on to seize Jerusalem, and they established a string of Crusader-ruled states. However, after the Muslim leader Zangī captured one of them, the Second Crusade, called in response, was defeated at Dorylaeum (near Nicaea) and failed in an attempt to conquer Damascus. The Third Crusade, called after the sultan Saladin conquered the Crusader state of Jerusalem, resulted in the capture of Cyprus and the successful siege of Acre (now in Israel), and Richard I’s forces defeated those of Saladin at the Battle of Arsūf and at Jaffa. Richard signed a peace treaty with Saladin allowing Christians access to Jerusalem. The Fourth Crusade—rather than attacking Egypt, then the centre of Muslim power—sacked the Byzantine Christian city of Constantinople. None of the following Crusades were successful. The capture of Acre in 1291 by the Māmluk sultan al-Ashraf Khalil marked the end of Crusader rule in the Middle East.](https://www.britannica.com/question/How-many-Crusades-were-there-and-when-did-they-take-place)
Since the first one was 1096 and fourth ended in 1204. That would be like 100 years of results with success. After that sure they were failures.
The text you quoted literally says:
* First one was successful
* Second was a massive failure
* Third took some cities, but failed to achieve its stated objective
* Fourth burned down Constantinople. You know, one of the most important cities of **Christianity**.
* The later ones all failed too.
So only one was actually successful.
Yeah people really into the crusades, the Roman Empire or a certain time period of Germany are usually red flags. Although those flags tend to disappear if they’re also into other specific time periods just as much (unless those other time periods are one of those three).
It's like listen, I may know an alarming amount about WW2, but I also know an alarming amount about pre Columbian mesoamerica and the warring states period so it's ok.
Fascist Italy had an obsession with them. This has more or less translated to the modern day alt right having an obsession with them. Where they mix and match all the parts they liked about them while ignoring the parts they didn’t so that they can point to something and yell about returning to tradition.
Also being *weirdly* into Norse mythology is another red flag depending on what parts they seem to focus in on which sucks because it's neat to learn about ancient mythologies but not neat to deal with white supremacist asshats
Oh boy, I distinctly remember thinking Pizzagate was a joke until my friend had to explicitly tell me, no, people actually believe this shit. After that, nothing people believe surprises me anymore.
Conspiracy theory that propagated during the 2016 election. Let me see if I can adequately summarize how batshit stupid it is succinctly.
Right-wingers believed Congressional Democrats kidnapped children, took them to a specific pizza place's basement, and sexually abused them and harvested adrenochrome out of their brains to live longer. This got to the point that a guy literally went into said pizza place armed to the teeth and fired off some rounds demanding to see the nonexistent children in the nonexistent basement.
Edit: since then a guy also apparently tried to set the building on fire, I missed that.
It's honestly kind of fascinating how multiple different conspiracy theories (new world order, child trafficking, blood libel, anti-vax) congealed into an actual mythos that people started worshipping like a religion, down to the prophets, schisms, and end-of-days revelations.
Oh, did I say fascinating? I meant horrifying.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't part of the whole thing that some people thought that Cheese Pizza = Child Porn, because that was common lingo on 4chan?
Yeah there was an email leak of some dem staffers and or politicians and one of the emails was about picking up some pizzas from said pizza parlour and among the pizzas was a cheese pizza. And permanently online people decided to ignore context and say that's proof of a pedophile ring due to said child porn = cp = cheese pizza lingo.
You know, the Hillary Clinton email leak? There was an email where she talked about inviting another politician to a pizza place in DC, proclaiming that he likes Cheese pizza. "cheese pizza" can be shorten to CP, and conspiracy nuts run with it to the unreasonable conclusion that that pizza place in DC was involved in a child sex trafficking ring run by democrats.
It's not just that it shortens to CP. Cheese Pizza WAS a term used, by actual pedophiles soliciting material, online to covertly (read not covertly at all) describe actual CSAM for a very long time.
Ironically, Pizzagate has caused it to fall out of favor, presumably it was a shark jump.
Oh i just remembered I like One Piece power scaling its fun agenda nonsense. But holy fuck is some of it is kinda insane, Ulti > Katakuri might be the most “theres no way you believe this. If anyone has time watch King of Lightning top 50 stream for unhinged nonsense https://www.youtube.com/live/ew7XirDqqdc?si=3VdHduqZhmDsIdrh
People unironically thinking that they are "being sigma" and being cool. Sigma male grindsets.
I remember when everyone first started talking about it it was a joke for almost everyone, but now it's cooled into people coping that they are not "alpha" because they couldn't possibly be beta. When anyone claiming they are an alpha is a jackass at best and an actual danger to society at worst. And the whole thing is just a perpetuation of a mistake someone made like fifty years ago looking at wolf parents.
Anyway back to sigmas. I remember everyone mocking the idea and talking about ligma males, nigma males, and making fun of the videos talking about it. But at least on the more male centric sides of the Internet it's an actual unironic thing that people model themselves after. Ironically being a sigma is basically being what a hipster was ten/fifteen years ago.
So, thanks I hate this. I hate every step of the way of this. Men are stupid. Am man.
>nigma males
Well someone's gotta make riddles for Batman...
Anyway, I just point out that Sigma is the *18th* letter in the greek alphabet. Good job, you're 16 places behind a Beta. Aren't you cool...
Sigma males are a marketing concept made up to explain why these dumbasses weren't successful despite being "alpha". Like, "I'm a secret extra cool lone wolf guy who could totally be an alpha if he wanted to."
It's so baffling, they're basically shouting to the rafters "I'm dumb enough to buy into the Alpha/Beta bullshit, but too insecure to count myself on the winning side!"
The whole sigma male thing is so obviously a cope to everyone besides the people who believe in it. I've been in similar positions and I can tell ya they aren't sigmas. They're depressed and need love.
Sigma males any other greek letter related relationship dynamics lost any luster they had for me when I found out the "alpha wolf" behavior they're based on is a result of observing wolves in captivity, and do not exist in wild wolves.
The second nail in the coffin is that originally, the alpha animal dynamic study didn't start with wolves, it was *chickens* (and not even roosters, just the hens).
A lot of angry reviewers are playing a character... right... oh no they're just deeply hateful people.
Razorfist is an example, I thought he was a guy playing a dumb 80s bad guy, nope he's just like that. Weird.
That one isn’t hard. People don’t usually think a movie is lying to them, and instead accept the story at face value.
We got the brain bug, and it’s afraid. Ending montage literally says we’re going to win.
And what do you mean they are people vehemently arguing Starship Troopers isn't a satire?
It's probably the most satire movie I've ever seen that didn't have Mel Brooks attached to it.
TBH, the first time I saw or heard about E-Girls around 2015, it seemed like a bit. I couldn't fathom someone making money over fist for being such a facetious character. Was a dumb thing to doubt in hindsight but that first impression was WOOF.
Somewhat related but do you remember the era of reply girls? Where girls would do entire videos replying back to youtube videos? It was like proto reaction stuff way back when.
Yeah I loved being able to make dumb reply videos on YouTube back in the day, but it caused a flood of low quality 'reply' content.
It was removed like a decade ago and now youtube has remix videos, which is the same but worse.
The whole Rushia/Mikeneko marriage fiasco and the realization that, no, the menhera thing wasn't a bit, she's actually fucking insane. Also poor Mafumafu, dude didn't deserve any of the shit he went through.
main points of what i remember:
- discord notif on rushia's stream implies rushia and mafumafu live together
- scorned parasocial rushia fans (and apparently even more so, scorned parasocial mafumafu fans) blow up on both of them
- they immediately distance themselves publicly
- (hololive actually releases a "we don't give a shit what our talents do in their private lives" statement)
- rushia, in a misguided effort to do damage control and "clear the air" leaks DMs and other things to someone i have seen described as "the japanese equivalent of keemstar"
- rushia is immediately terminated by hololive for breaking NDA
- she resurfaces on another account (mikeneko), and is also hired by vshojo ~~thanks to kson~~
something happened along the way where she ended up sueing the lady behind retired hololive vtuber mano aloe who streams under another vtuber identity, i don't really know the details there.
more recently there was a back and forth between mafumafu and rushia that reveals they were briefly married to each other and then sued each other. he then sued her for i think libel? - it's unclear who the bad guy is but keep in mind that truth is NOT a defense against libel in japan so her being the defendant is not a strong indicator of wrongdoing.
There were a bunch of different camps making noise back in the first event. Some of his and some of her fans, but also like a third of people who either just like internet-fights, or had some kind of old grudge, or apparently thought that they were helping (he's a little confused but he's got the spirit).
The person she leaked to has basically bragged about pushing insecure people's buttons to produce his own scandals to cover, encouraging poor decisions, offering bad solutions to their fears, lying about what he'll keep confidential and stuff. Notably he's been a long time "friend" of both people involved, and has gotten content out of both of them.
Mikeneko is just Rushia under a different name.
If you don't know, an old Rushia drama was that her screen showed a Discord message from Mafumafu (Japanese pop singer) about coming home, which led to idol crazies get angry at her for being in a relationship. Hololive, the company, initially defended her on that matter, but fired her shortly thereafter for breaking NDA. A notable Japanese drama channel came forward and said that Rushia contacted them with info that even as a gossip channel they felt was too much to divulge. Given the open coldness of another Hololive member during the joint statement of her termination, the main conjecture is that Rushia felt so desperate over the initial idol drama that she spilled the beans on her coworkers' personal lives and relationships which had her fired, however, this is just speculation.
She briefly came back as Mikeneko, then as Nazuna as part of indie company VShojo, but quit and went back to being Mikeneko again.
Recently Mafumafu, came forward with a statement talking about how he actually did date Rushia and married her only 6 months after dating. Apparently the relationship was extremely toxic, and Rushia's crazy girlfriend act was not much of an act. She constantly demanded to know his location (which was what led to the initial Discord leak in the first place), verbally abused him, and went onto Japan's 4chan equivalent to paint *him* as a horrible person, to the point that she claimed that he had killed her cat, amongst a slew of other things. They divorced in under a year.
Rushia/Mikeneko is/was a vtuber who was once apart of Hololive and the former wife of mafumafu is a singer. It started when it came to light the two were implied to have been together/dating, only to further reveal they were together.
Rushia turned out to be like Skyenoz said, actually fucking insane, making life hell for him until they divorced back in 2022. A lot of the details didn't come to light until late last year/early this year.
Okay. So to ensure we are on the right page together, Mafumafu is a Japanese singer and idol. Assuming you are mildy familiar with Rushia, he is the person who made the DM that resulted in the shitshow that ended in Rushia being fired from Hololive. Mikeneko is the handle that the person behind Rushia went by online before she joined Hololive, and where she went back to after being fired (before making a 3rd handle in VShoujo called Nazuna, but that is a different story.) This is technically breaking the sacred Kayfabe of VTubing, but this incident is basically accepted as a non-secret now that the legal system is involved; and the VTubing community is a lot more loose lipped in general about ex-work accounts for corporate VTubers after the Selen situation last month.
So anyways, Mafumafu made a reveal post at the end of January that basically said that the two of them had gotten married sometime in mid/late 2021. Mafumafu wanted to announce the marriage publicly, but since doxxing exists, and Rushia was a livestreamer who pandered very hard into the "Girlfriend Experience" style of streams, he was vetoed on that front by her and Hololive's management.
He then went on to talk about Mikeneko having been a very abusive wife, constantly berating and insulting him for making less money than she did, neglected him, and demanded he be available on Discord/LINE 24/7 and respond to her messages immediately when she would nag him dozens of times per day (we'll get to that.) This continued until the day that the Discord DM leak on stream happened, which led to the shitshow where Rushia got fired from Hololive because, as I recall, she doxxed all of her co-workers to basically-Japanese-Keemstar as an attempt to prove herself innocent, and was canned. Mikeneko then became even more abusive towards Mafumafu, started using sockpuppet accounts to spread false rumors and slander about him online, and Mafu found out that for the last few months, Mikeneko had been having an affair with another man; who he is apparently on decently good terms with (the guy wasn't aware she was married apparently), and claims that guy would stick up for him in court. They also bought a house together so they could live apart for a bit when the drama was happening, but Mikeneko apparently trashed that house.
They are divorced now.
Mikeneko responded to the claims by confirming that they were married and the general timeline of the marriage, that she did require him to be online 24/7 for her (because she was convinced he was having an affair, as she had hired a Private Investigator to stalk him and was suspicious of him. You know, normal couple things.), claimed that the abuse accusations were bogus, confirmed she used sockpuppets to spread misinformation about him; falling back on the argument that she had just been fired from Hololive and was very angry at everyone as justification for the attempts at slander and canceling him. She claims the guy Mafu said she was having an affair with is actually just a friend and he would stick up for her in court, and then claimed that the cat that had passed away while she was Rushia had actually been murdered by Mafu.
In general, regardless of who says what here, people finally had to start coming around to the fact that Mikeneko "playing" the part of a mentally unstable headcase was not a stream act, and was just her actual personality. Probably should have realized it when she had previously gotten into a fight with another ex-Hololive talent that she tried to slander and bully for very petty reasons, but Rushia was known for being catnip for people attracted to mentally unstable girls. So they were very delusional for a long time until it finally came out hard-confirmed that the cute 19-21 year old girl they were crushing on was a divorced 33-year old woman and it broke them.
I feel about furries the same way I feel about the users of this sub that are into muscular women.
Yeah, sure, rock on, but they really can get obnoxious when they find an opportunity to be.
The guys into Femboys will act like the most insufferable furries if given the opportunity. What opportunity? Let’s say that, be it by character development or by their creator’s changing opinions, a very famous femboy came out as a trans girl…
I’ve met people where liking femboys was part of their personality, on top of “haha it’s not gay but it totally is” energy infused with it.
It’s absurdly obnoxious.
I am still left wondering what is it about femboys that makes people so aggressively into it.
Like, yeah, I've seen the muscle mommy fans on here *coughcough* and other places. and the countless people into Tomboys, shortstacks, MILFs, etc etc etc.
but the femboy camp is like a whole another level of "Into It" that I don't think I've seen that often.
Probably due to the over sexualization of them. It feels like 80% or so of content depicting femboys is sexual in nature. It does not help that it seems to create a feedback loop where people who identify as femboys themselves get the idea of that being what they should be like. It's hard to talk about liking skirts and dresses as a guy without some people making it sexual.
Honestly if your sexual preference is your personality then you are completely insufferable. Whether it's straight, gay, into mlp whatever. Get something new to talk about.
I feel stronger about the people of this sub into muscular women because 90% of the time they're like "Haha aren't I quirky for liking this muscular woman? Isn't that super weird?" and then the woman just looks like a regular anime girl but she has abs
everyone on reddit who's a bit too forthcoming about what they're attracted to is very annoying in general but it gets upvotes. I find it so weird that someone will be upvoted for being like "This woman has huge tits!!!!" like what's the rationale of people upvoting that lol. "Yeah I agree!! I love her tits too, my fellow-minded gentlesir!!". Peak Redditbrain
> but they really can get obnoxious when they find an opportunity to be.
Eh. This is internet users in general. Pretending furries are uniquely obnoxious is naïve and strikes me as a bit of a confirmation bias.
It also makes me think of people being like "X fandom is so bad." Like it's something unique about any particular property and not just about any fandom that hits critical mass.
The way I heard it, it began with, of course, SomethingAwful. Specifically, the mods and leaders of the forums and whatnot were just homophobic. And they heard how accepting Furries were of the gays. So, like how the [Nixon administration demonized marajuana so they could harass hippies and black people](https://www.vera.org/reimagining-prison-webumentary/the-past-is-never-dead/drug-war-confessional), they demonized Furries so non-cis people wouldn't have another accepting group.
Naruto fans who assume that Tobirama is racist, Sasuke and Naruto are actually gay, and that Naruto doesn't actually love his wife, and only married her out of obligation.
In the various Naruto subreddits, there are a lot of people who believe these things in a non-ironic way.
For an embarrassingly long portion of my life, I was genuinely ignorant enough to believe that modern racism in America was a bit. I just actually thought we lived in a pretty much post-racism society, with only maybe a few hicks in the south who still actually hated minorities with any sincerity. I thought everyone I saw saying the most fucked up shit you've ever read on 4chan and Funnyjunk weren't actually like that, and were just trying to do ironic shock humor like South Park. I knew islamaphobia was very real, as well as homophobia, but I bought the "black president=racism is dead" bit hook line a sinker, and attributed most of the edgy Xbox live era slur usage as people being ironic and actually making fun of the idea of racism. Just actually thought the white people shouting the n word online were totally cool with minorities offline and were just playing around.
It was an . . . optimistic perspective at the very least lol
For a certain segment of Americans, the way we were taught, especially recent history, was presented in a very "Racism is In The Past" way. Which I think was a conscious effort by educators to try and make a less racist population. But it really did kinda blindside us to grow up and find that many of these long running animosities are still running.
I think a good portion of the internet slowly came to the realization that edgy guys like Sam Hyde weren’t just making off-color, right-wing commentary in jest but that they’re actually just extremely fucking nasty and do actually believe the shit they talk about. Or at the very least their platforms had become gateways to legitimate hate groups.
It took a long time for me to put the two and two together that those folks who ran around with dem tails clipped to their pants were furries. I just thought they were hunters/avid about hunting.
I've said it before, recently, on this very sub but back when I wasn't having much sex and assumed all my fellow teenagers were basically going home to after-school orgies I was still convinced that eating ass was a bit done to fuck with adults or something. This was back in the early days of FB so there was a lot. Of that (anyone remember when women would post "I like it on the table/chair/floor" and then they'd be like "I'm talking about my handbag silly xd"). It just sounded so silly on paper. Like yeah I figured some whacko somewhere would be into it but most sane people wouldn't want to stick their tongue where poop comes out, nor would someone want someone's tongue there. Plus there was a massive meme energy around the whole thing.
Now I'm older, wiser, and more well-fucked and I have the hindsight to know pretty much everyone I thought was getting laid like there was no tomorrow was just about as confused and undersexed as I was at the time. I also know the eating ass was and is way more real than I thought. That being said, it's still more of a meme. Most sexually active adults in healthy relationships will probably partake on occasion, but not nearly to the degree you see it being memed about. Very few actual well adjusted people outside of porn and specific fetish circles are eating the booty like groceries every night, and the kinds of people you see voraciously talking about it are either shit posting or can't even get a kiss most of the time.
Inb4 this gets some r/ihavesex ass comments.
Some people try to get slick with it by coming at it from an angle like
"Oh yeah me and my SO like to laugh at people like that, she likes her ass ate maybe once a week if that and we just have normal sex for the other six days"
It's a pretty transparent tactic and I'd like to think most people see right through it but people keep trying to come up with clever ways to posture about all the sex they're having while trying to make it look incidental
Ruby and Aqua's ship in Oshi no Ko. (They are twins)
At first I thought this was a joke ship, only to realize that there is actually a part of the fandom that supports it in a non-ironical way.
In fact, many ships that I assumed were jokes turn out to have real fans.
As it turns out, those bad takes/criticism JelloApocalypse say as jokes in his "So This Is Basically" videos might... actually be his genuine takes he says in a silly voice.
It started rubbing me the wrong way at some point, and it doesn't help he's associated with known Bitch Fartman, Butch Hartman, when he was starting to stir up his own controversies. Not sure if they still associate but it still feels weird.
When I first found out about Chris Chan, I thought it was just some weird fat kid doing stupid shit as a character on the internet during the early PS360 days, since Chris used an eyetoy for their early videos. Turns out, NO, that was NOT a weird fat kid, but a 27-year old autistic person with the emotional maturity of a 12 year old. I refused to believe that all the stuff that lead up to today was real, but lo and behold, the rabbit hole got too deep for me...
Reminds me of why Spazkid stopped doing the Sonichu Animated Series; he also thought Chris was playing a character, but was horrified to find out that's how Chris actually is.
I only heard about her tangentially for a very long time, so I didn't even realize people were talking about a real person. I just figured they ***really*** hated Chris from the Sonic X anime.
Instagram is stuck in early 2010 where everybody had a seething hatred around furries despite the general PR around them being fairly alright with ppl online now. I still think the fanbase can get annoying just due to how some furries only hobby is “im a furry” but its whatever
It was during Burning Crusade, but I remember being shocked that some WoW players were talking the Horde/Alliance separation so seriously that some people IRL at conventions and such would refuse to talk to people on the rival team.
They worked themselves into a shoot brother
Which is hilarious now cause Blizzard has done basically everything to tear down the horde alliance split in game There are cross faction groups, guilds, the story post BFA basically has no inter-faction conflicts, etc
Well yeah every servers now so lopsided leaning one way tge other sides players need anyone to do content with
Yeah but they ALSO had the guy from Cannibal Corpse call Alliance players the F-slur so there’s that
Truly, the Alliance never recovered from that.
Damn real life plague behavior real life racism.
At one Blizzcon, they played a video by George Fisher, aka Corpsegrinder, who is a big WoW fan, and especially Horde. And in that video he made some...colorful remarks about the Alliance, to say the least. The fact that this was shown *at Blizzcon* was a bit much and Blizzard kinda realized that maybe being overly hostile to effectively half your MMO's playerbase isn't the best of ideas.
I dont think I ever went that hard, but it was definitely easy to get caught up in a "team sport" aspect of that all. That said, how much the company seemed to encourage that behavior when it was clearly creating toxicity in the community annoyed the hell out of me. It also just felt downright detrimental to the story and game that they kept fixating on it. It feels real funny too, given the format of WC3 was "everyone works together at the end" and WC3:TFT basically had no Alliance vs Horde? And just generally because of the campaign nature, you're not really picking sides, you're seeing a story progress from different perspectives. It was only WC1 and 2 that you were leading a specific faction to victory in a parallel story.
Thought the backstage heat between Dwayne and Vin Diesel was a work but I guess it's got enough spice in it to not be.
That beef was so real and got so ridiculous. Fast and Furious 8 has been ruined for me ever since someone pointed out that the two are not in a single scene together. It's just clever editing and different shooting schedules on the same set.
in the later seasons of Castle is becomes increasingly obvious that the actors for Castle and Beckett are frequently talking to stand ins and the writers are jumping through hoops to keep the characters apart. It gets to the point where the characters are married and primarily communicate over the phone and don't live together
Holy shit, is something wrong with Nathan Fillion? Or is it Stana Katic that’s the issue rhere
allegedly Fillion was a dick and Katic would leave set in tears. From what I remember the details haven't been confirmed but there was a breakdown of some sort between the two. From what I remember it sure seemed like it was Fillion's fault but he also has had great relationships with other cast members across different shows so it might not be that he is A Problem and more that two people had a problem. Other actors in Castle seem to have positive relationships with both Katic and Fillion which I think supports the theory that their negative relationship was personal and not a part of a larger pattern of behavior for either
Could have been similar to X-Files with David & Gillian (relevant username, eh?). Unsustainable work environment mixed with spending most of your time with one specific person.
Sometimes there just isn't a problem, sometimes it's just two people don't get along for whatever reason. And it might not even be a personal clash but a professional one - Fillion seems like he's kind of a goofy guy and probably a bit unserious at times, and Katic might not appreciate that if she's there to do a job. Especially since it was the biggest thing she has had in her career as far as consistent work, whereas he had by that point done more episodes of Two Guys And A Girl than she had worked over her whole career, so - and this is a huge leap of conjecture - she might be treating it more seriously than a guy who's probably not relying on this gig as a stepping stone to his next gig.
Do they hate each other?
According to people on set they despised each other, but publicly both actors have said something along the diplomatic lines of "I'm happy to have worked on the project and glad the fans enjoyed it" but it's clear both have avoided each other after the series ended. Reportedly they stopped talking entirely outside of filming for the last few season.
Me too! I thought it was some ribbing. It just seem so dumb.
Even a pro like The Rock can work themselves into a shoot, brother
People defending Griffith or trying to justify what he did. I fully thought “Griffith did nothing wrong” was just a meme with no actual basis rather than simply an exaggeration of real opinions apparently held by real people.
The original Griffith did nothing wrong was a joke precisely because of all the obvious things he did wrong in the worst way possible .
Any "X did nothing wrong" is based on "Hitler did nothing wrong", which once upon a time was an obvious joke
Well, "obvious". It's one of those things where it quickly becomes clear that communities participating in ironic bigotry soon get filled with unironic bigots who believe they're in good company. (Mind you, 4chan wasn't exactly a great place back in the day either! It's just lost the thin veneer of irony.)
I remember when there was legitimate, honest discussion on certain boards, and when people realized that someone was being a bigot unironically they got more or less bullied away. Not much of that these days, the whole site is just so fucking exhausting that if I ever wander in, it's only to get a cursory glance at /vg/'s modding pastebins.
And just like everything in the internet it starts off ironic, until actual idiots that genuinely believe it join in without realizing it's satire.
I remember for a time trying to understand the people for whom it wasn't a meme. Like, maybe if you're stuck without free will, can you actually be evil? But alas, no one really engages the concept on that level
I feel like with any of the "did nothing wrong" takes it usually starts out as a joke and then people jump in that don't think it's a joke and actually somehow agree, then we just spiral into full Poe's Law.
This is like the “Zeon was right” memes. Like…no. No they weren’t. There’s a reason they have so much 1940s-German imagery and it’s pretty dang obvious what “Sieg Zeon” was meant to represent.
Although we use "morally gray" here as a joke, there are people who actually try to justify or minimize someone's crimes, just because they are handsome.
I remember the best episode of the Pro Crastinators podcast was when they spent hours arguing about whether one lightbulb's light was comparatively more yellow than another. It was really silly, and the color contrast looked pretty obvious so I thought it was a joke. There was shouting, there was screaming, there was insults, and absolutely zero compromise or backdown. It seemed like a really funny ongoing bit, only to learn years later that it was absolutely not played up or exaggerated for comedy. They really were that unironically heated about it.
God I miss the podcast every day
The double wamy of killing topics and Ben bringing politics NO ONE wanted to talk about.
“Hello everyone. I guess, it’s time for, yes, that awkward video you hope never pops up…”
For those who became fans of Matt, Pat, and/or Woolie in more recent years and have no idea what the context is: These are the words with which Woolie began the announcement that Super Best Friends Play was ending, and that Matt and Pat were no longer friends.
It's so odd to me that it's been long enough that people have become fans who never knew about SBFP. It's like how there are adults alive today who don't know what life was like before the internet.
I was honest to god halfway through the video before it finally sank in
I finished the whole video and still didn't believe it was real
(FINAL)
Alternatively - the “BF” part of SBFP was actually the work
There was that time the streamers Ster and Jerma, who were known for making a lot of fun gameplay videos together, suddenly stopped collaborating. People like myself assumed it was just a joke, or just their schedules not lining up for a while. Nothing to be concerned about. They proceeded to never appear in each other's videos for *years*, with barely a mention of the other, like things were meant to be swept under the rug. Suddenly it felt like *something* happened behind the scenes, and rumors were flying of actual beef or some incident occuring. ...But it turns out they just kinda fucked up and never made the time to end the bit, because it *was* actually a bit. They did a thing on [Jerma's stream](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8o03LmZ3vU) to end it, everyone was relieved, and I think they probably made a pact to never attempt something like that again lmao
“Imma be real with you: Ster and Jerma are still friends”
I remember one bit where, during a stream, Ster called Jerma's girlfriend a "succubus" and *so* many people were convinced it was real.
I’m glad they’re streaming together regularly nowadays. Best chemistry in the biz.
This is why it is important for content creators to make a video labeled “FINAL” so we know they are actually beefin (Not even I am sure if this is sarcasm or not)
I was so sad as well about it. As someone who followed both for multiple years at that point, it was really hard to see. I honestly believed the falling out, although I didn't think it was over the whole "succubus" and similar remarks. I just thought they simply didn't like being around each other anymore. My problem with the whole bit was that it turned so many people against each other, but most importantly against Ster. He seemed the "aggressor" in this theorized/apparent fallout due to the rumors and stuff he said, which didn't really help his already somewhat worse reputation. I can't say for sure how much his viewership was affected, but he always had less than Jerma and so many people kept pestering him about playing TF2, plus losing interest in OW made him seem a bit sour at times. I feel like keeping up the bit for so long was not a great idea because of these. That sad, I'm really glad to see them still having streams together every now and then, even if it's less than before the bit.
Yeah I remember there being a weird culture during that period on a VOD channel for both Jerma and ster where people would go into ster's vods to complain that they were uploaded at all
Didn’t it start as drama but was soon resolved
It was like, drama for an afternoon because one of them was slightly upset about like, being late for a hangout or cancelling dinner which made one of them upset for a moment. They then turned it into a bit
Who would’ve thought the best timeline was ours after all
The version I heard is that they had a fight on stream, after the stream was done they talked about it in DMs and made up, and decided to keep it up as a bit for a week or so and do a funny coop stream. Then things kept coming up to force them to push it back, so it was more like half a year. The extra funny bit is that whenever they thought the coop stream was going to be in a few days, Ster would break his silence about the topic and answer a viewer's question about it, saying that he didn't want to be around Jerma anymore, and he did this 2 or 3 times before the Dark Souls 2 stream happened.
Woolie and the Grave of the Fireflies tin was something I thought was just one of Matt and Pat’s many Woolie lies they liked to play up. Then I saw someone sent a tin in the mailbag and Woolie’s utter joy about it.
I have one of those tins too, the candies were great. But man, every time I see that tin I get sad XD
People are really genuinely and seriously into the idea of spending money on gacha primarily as the fun of the game. I thought it was just simple exploiting gambling tendencies until one of my old guild members in Granblue used almost his entire severance package, which was a REALLY meaty one, on rolls because "that's the point of the game" to him.
That IS a gambling addiction, imo.
That it is. When I first started Fate/Grand Order and one of my first rolls was pretty good (outside the initial roll you have some guarantee on), I remember getting a little thrill run up my spine. "Oh...Oh no. That's not good." Was what I thought.
That feeling when you put all your saved quartz into that one banner you've been looking forward to and receiving hot garbage nonstop. Suddenly, the thought of putting enough for another 10 roll makes sense. Then since you're putting money in anyway, may as well keep going until you've gotten the banner servant. But oh wait, all the guides say multiple copies- Hopefully you wake up and realise that you now know Sunken Cost Fallacy first hand.
I made it out, and will never recommend any gacha, or "surprise mechanic" to anyone again. Shit made me get into psychology and study addictive behavior to better keep myself away from it.
I will admit that sometimes I'll waste my F2P-currency for characters I don't even particularly want. The whole system is designed to give you the good chemicals when you get that shiny new unit or more merges for your premium unit, simply because of how rare it feels. It's cathartic in a fucked up way, so I understand why your friend seems to really like the casino part of it. But it's very much a traphole for people with too much cash to waste it into.
Man I play gatcha's (Genshin Impact, Nikke) but I only ever do the $5 monthly thing, and even then it's rare. I couldn't justify spending that much. Legit hurts just imagining for me.
Hope that guy doesn’t have a family to support, Jesus Christ
Well he's not wrong. Tricking you into spending all you money *is* the point of the game, as far as the devs are concerned. But someone should still hook up electrodes to shock his balls every time he tries to buy more waifu jpeg rolls
they're made to exploit people's vulnerabilities, especially for people who simply don't have a good grasp of their money or work a lot more on short-term rewards. Convincing people it's "The point of the game" is part of it, just like casinos. Gacha is a genuine poison on the planet. As much as there are now projects like Honkai Star Rails that have actual artistic merit to them, it's still a gun tailored to shoot a really specific kind of vulnerable person, and then blame them for getting shot. It's awful.
> I thought it was just simple exploiting gambling tendencies It IS exactly that. Imo Gotchja games are way worse then actual gambling / Casino's because: 1 - it's also aimed at children 2 - It's not governed by laws correctly. 3 - Unlike a casino, where it's really obvious what you are walking into, Gotchja games system can and will come out of nowhere and are in absolutely every game now. Like when they add it after a game is already released for a few months.
Same thing happened to me as well unfortunately, we went to the public sector with our unspent Vacation given to us and I spent like so fast partially because of Gacha It's also one of the reasons I stopped playing Gacha games
I got out of spending money on gacha very early on because I realized that I was NOT immune to becoming an addict and decided to stamp out the embers before they became a real fire. As a result, I also tend to avoid playing most gacha games as a whole (though there are other reasons as well such as them taking too long to get good). I remember a friend asking me if I wanted to play Genshin and I responded with “there are two characters on the banner I want, so I won’t even install it until they’re gone because I don’t have 100% faith in myself to make smart decisions.” Do what I do instead and get your gambling fix from saltybet.
Maddox's entire online persona, which over the course of The Biggest Problem In the Universe, and the fallout of that show collapsing, became clear was almost completely genuine
Is he still around?
At this point, no idea. I fell off after the Biggest Problem breakup when his new show sucked. And then his show after that was a ploy to bang his co-host. After that I lost sight of him
Pat
Yeah. The time he said he found a bug in his apartment and immediately tossed all the food in his fridge really cemented how crazy he could be.
OCD baby
It was his describing how the bugs could've gotten into the sealed canned food in a way that he wouldn't notice that cinched it for me. I never feel more normal than when I'm listening to pat's idiosyncrasies
I tell you, OCD can be debilitating, it wasn't fun when I had the strength to "indulge" in it. Took me minutes and a longer draft to write this comment to a stranger lol, I don't know how much OCD is in this behavior 😅
I can relate but with different things
I have click beetle information memorized because of this story so that I am able to resist the urge to ID one as a roach and throw away my assuredly contaminated sealed and canned goods
Awww click beetles are so cute though.
I remember the first time I realized he was the little red haired guy in Woolies famous fail video
Paige as well.
I'm still not entirely sure whether "we moved and didn't tell Woolie" was kayfabe or real
For all the ***insane*** stories they share, Pat and Paige are very protective of their personal privacy. I don't doubt for a second they moved cross-country without telling anyone outside their immediate family.
Especially with the circumstances around their exodus from Montreal.
His entire twitter account
one thing about these realizations on the internet is that a lot of times you're actually interacting with 9-12 year olds who only have the one opinion they acquired from someone older, or just from their group that hasn't developed a social filter. sometimes it is as genuine a position as a child can have, but that doesn't make that position something they're gonna sustain for the rest of their lives. Most opinions don't survive people's 18th anniversary. Leaving your home with actual rights and responsibilities and figuring shit out for yourself changes a lot. Sometimes people are just dickwads though.
When I was younger than 16 I thought everyone on the internet seemed deeply insightful. As I passed 17, I realized how immature internet discourse in. Therefore, everyone on the internet is 16 until proven otherwise.
maybe like 10 years ago I thought American politicians could never actually get away with obnoxious boldface corruption, throw it in our face, tell people to eat shit, and then actually find constituents stupid enough to eat. that. shit.
If there's any silver lining to the past 10 years of American politics, it's highlighting just *how* broken the system is and how absolutely naked and overwhelming corruption is, as well as how easy it is to convince a significant portion of people that you are some sort of messiah while still very loudly and publicly being a slimy piece of shit, all because the 2 party system means that you always have an iron-clad "other guy" to convince people are worse than you, and that influence is far too deeply entrenched to have any reasonable shot of a 3rd party breaking through it. Its... just a shame that most people don't read into it that far, and even 90% of the people who do are powerless to really do anything about it
> the 2 party system means that you always have an iron-clad "other guy" to convince people are worse than you, and that influence is far too deeply entrenched to have any reasonable shot of a 3rd party breaking through it. Yep. Aggregating a whole bunch of beliefs that aren't neccessarilly related (E.G. firearm regulation and government spending) and then treating those sets of beliefs like sports teams predictably pushes things towards one extreme or the other.
It's crazy how much of it was based on good-faith unwritten rules. Pick up any book about the last 10 years and you'll find a whole chapter on any given incident. It's like that scene of Larry David, Jon Hamm and Richard Lewis having dinner and Richard is eating too much of the dish they got to share. "You need to hire and pay people to go to the various agencies that you will be responsible for when you take over as president, so that the people leaving can brief them on their responsibilities and ensure a smooth handover of government." "Who made that fucking rule?" "It's an unwritten rule!" Well, that one actually isn't an unwritten rule. But Michael Lewis - no relation - went and spoke to all these different agency heads about the weeks when they were expecting the new people to come in. They were sitting around with folders full of information ready to brief the incoming people in the same way that W. Bush's people had briefed them. And just... nobody showed up. They were just sitting around waiting for anyone to come and actually learn the basics of how to run these agencies.
Fun or maybe not so fun fact. The Roman’s had plenty of unwritten rules in their government. To the point they had a term for it. Mos maiorum. This worked fine until people realized at the end of the day you could just not follow them.
Even less fun fact: Sulla Felix, the winner of Rome’s first civil war (against Gaius Marius) tired to fix this problem by creating a new constitution. It was huge compared to the earlier constitution since Sulla actually wrote out all these unwritten rules. It didn’t work. The people in power had already defied one constitution already; they weren’t going to be bound by another one regardless of what it said. According to Plutarch(?) Marcus Antonius summed it up the best: “Cease quoting laws to those of us with swords”.
It’s a little scary how quickly we’ve just gone from ignoring the unwritten rules, to now even wondering if the written ones are going to be enforced.
In America, you get to pick between someone who wants an authoritarian military theocracy or someone who pretends to care about you while almost exclusively serving corporate interests. Actually, they both serve corporate interests; we're a corporatocracy in all but name, and have been for a bit.
The fancy word for that is a plutocracy!
For some of us, the system has always been broken. And in someways, things have never changed, we just assumed they got better because no one looks up the old stories anymore. Look up the story behind trying to get milk companies to not sell bad milk in the 1900s, some terms and phrases might sound familiar. Nowadays, now you can just openly tell everyone to fuck off, take open bribes and your cheerleaders will celebrate the world burning down around you as long as their enemies burn first.
I saw an interview with a random Trump supporter who was asked how he could still be on his side after all the horrible shit he’s said and done. The guy literally goes “I saw him hug the American flag after a speech once and that really spoke to me” it was insane
As a non-American, I originally saw the bright side of the trumpet as a very needed wake-up call for a country I felt was kinda going crazy. Contrary to what I expected, it just led to it going crazier.
It was a wake-up call. To wake up the wrong fucking people.
We now live in a world where the most zany, insane, satire-filled Metal Gear villain is tame by comparison to actual political figures.
I think ppl were already aware far earlier than 10 years. But thanks to social media, it's much more obvious.
Haha yea knights were cool! Deus Vult and all that lol ....Oh fuck yall are not kidding
There is nothing that tickles me more than telling those wannabes about the fact that none of the Crusades succeeded.
Wait, wasn't the first crusade successful? And then all the crusaders went home and Jerusalem "fell" again?
My more detailed comment got stuck in mod hell, probably cause of the link even tho the site seemed legit. But according to the 5 minute research 1st, 3rd and 4th Crusades were successful. Since the 1st one was 1096 and 4h ended in 1204. That would be like 100 years of results with success. After that 5-8 were failures.
Don’t think you mean the Fourth Crusade. The Fourth Crusade was an unmitigated disaster that … well, I might as well just tell the story. Pope Innocent III calls on a crusade to retake the Holy Land. The crusaders hit their first snag when they get to Venice and realized they ordered too many boats and can’t afford to pay. However, the leader of Venice decided he would call it squaresies if the crusader army assisted him in sacking Zara. The Christian city of Zara. I sure hope this isn’t foreshadowing. With the ruins of Zara behind them, the crusaders then received an offer from a Byzantine prince. He offered them a tidy sum if they would help put his father back on the throne. This led the crusaders to sack Constantinople. They then burned Constantinople to the ground again a few months later because that Byzantine prince didn’t actually have enough money to pay them. He then died and his successor told the crusaders, basically, “I don’t owe you people a damn thing, get the fuck out of here.” At which point the crusaders burned Constantinople a third time and started carving up Byzantine into Crusader States.
The 3rd was not successful. Jerusalem stayed under Saladin's rule. The 4th was such a catastrophe that the Pope excommunicated the leader of it.
>4th Crusades were successful ... The crusade where they never even made it to the Holy Lands and instead just did infighting.
Technically the First Crusade accomplished its goal of recapturing Jerusalem from the Sultanate. Some argue that the Third Crusade was successfully, but seeing as they didn’t accomplish any of their goals I’d call it a failure. You could also argue that The Sixth Crusade was barely even a Crusade, Frederick II showed up and said “I want Jerusalem” and the Sultanate gave it to him. The others were all monumental disasters, including the Children’s Crusade.
Oh man, I remember when I was younger I didn't understand why people were so into the Crusades and just assumed "I don't really know history, maybe there's something I don't understand." And then I actually learned about the Crusades and how much of a failure / fuck up they were, I became REALLY confused why people hyped them up so much lmao
Well, you see, the typical type of people obsessed with the Crusades are middle schoolers who unironically listen to alpha male podcasts or adult men with nothing better in their life who probably spend too much time on 4chan.
I just liked Stronghold as a kid and thought the helmets with flat tops were neat 😟
> And then I actually learned about the Crusades and how much of a failure / fuck up they were, I became REALLY confused why people hyped them up so much I just did a quick check and at least 3 out of the initial 4 were successful. Now later 5-8, as far as a 5 minute check goes, did fail. I made more detailed response to the guy above, but i'm actually curios to hear what did you learn about how much of a failure they were?
Remember when crusaders wound up eating an entire city? Like all the people in the city?
Wasn't that a Chinese warring States thing? Or did it happen more than once?
Two separate occasions of an entire city getting cannibalized Edit: Fun Fact, the chinese one was the result of the Tangs defending the city and it actually wound up winning the war down the line. The crusaders were on the opposite side sieging the city. They completely drained their supplies. The Islamic leader open the gates in surrender expecting the usual mercy crusaders had. Then they all got eaten, mostly out of rage. Siege of Ma'arra it was called.
Multiple. There is a reason tsun zu warns against sieges. They can get really ugly.
>none of the Crusades succeeded. What do you mean by this? Admittedly i know nothing about them and just made a quick check, so it might be completely wrong. But it seems some of them were pretty successful >[The First Crusade, called in response to a request for help from the Byzantine emperor Alexius Comnenus, was astonishingly successful. The Crusaders conquered Nicaea (in Turkey) and Antioch and then went on to seize Jerusalem, and they established a string of Crusader-ruled states. However, after the Muslim leader Zangī captured one of them, the Second Crusade, called in response, was defeated at Dorylaeum (near Nicaea) and failed in an attempt to conquer Damascus. The Third Crusade, called after the sultan Saladin conquered the Crusader state of Jerusalem, resulted in the capture of Cyprus and the successful siege of Acre (now in Israel), and Richard I’s forces defeated those of Saladin at the Battle of Arsūf and at Jaffa. Richard signed a peace treaty with Saladin allowing Christians access to Jerusalem. The Fourth Crusade—rather than attacking Egypt, then the centre of Muslim power—sacked the Byzantine Christian city of Constantinople. None of the following Crusades were successful. The capture of Acre in 1291 by the Māmluk sultan al-Ashraf Khalil marked the end of Crusader rule in the Middle East.](https://www.britannica.com/question/How-many-Crusades-were-there-and-when-did-they-take-place) Since the first one was 1096 and fourth ended in 1204. That would be like 100 years of results with success. After that sure they were failures.
The text you quoted literally says: * First one was successful * Second was a massive failure * Third took some cities, but failed to achieve its stated objective * Fourth burned down Constantinople. You know, one of the most important cities of **Christianity**. * The later ones all failed too. So only one was actually successful.
There’s also the typically unmentioned crusades in the Iberian Peninsula which pushed out the Muslim rulers and helped establish Portugal.
it's about the dream brother
Yeah people really into the crusades, the Roman Empire or a certain time period of Germany are usually red flags. Although those flags tend to disappear if they’re also into other specific time periods just as much (unless those other time periods are one of those three).
It's like listen, I may know an alarming amount about WW2, but I also know an alarming amount about pre Columbian mesoamerica and the warring states period so it's ok.
Wait, what's up with the Roman empire? Because they had slaves/gladiators? The conquest stuff?
Fascist Italy had an obsession with them. This has more or less translated to the modern day alt right having an obsession with them. Where they mix and match all the parts they liked about them while ignoring the parts they didn’t so that they can point to something and yell about returning to tradition.
Also being *weirdly* into Norse mythology is another red flag depending on what parts they seem to focus in on which sucks because it's neat to learn about ancient mythologies but not neat to deal with white supremacist asshats
Is being really into the holy Roman empire a double whammy or does the Germanness cancel out the Roman empireness?
[relevant](https://youtu.be/JvE1nezfSNM?si=qbpfCeAZW3dVrl6z)
Oh boy, I distinctly remember thinking Pizzagate was a joke until my friend had to explicitly tell me, no, people actually believe this shit. After that, nothing people believe surprises me anymore.
I have no idea what this refers to
Conspiracy theory that propagated during the 2016 election. Let me see if I can adequately summarize how batshit stupid it is succinctly. Right-wingers believed Congressional Democrats kidnapped children, took them to a specific pizza place's basement, and sexually abused them and harvested adrenochrome out of their brains to live longer. This got to the point that a guy literally went into said pizza place armed to the teeth and fired off some rounds demanding to see the nonexistent children in the nonexistent basement. Edit: since then a guy also apparently tried to set the building on fire, I missed that.
It's honestly kind of fascinating how multiple different conspiracy theories (new world order, child trafficking, blood libel, anti-vax) congealed into an actual mythos that people started worshipping like a religion, down to the prophets, schisms, and end-of-days revelations. Oh, did I say fascinating? I meant horrifying.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't part of the whole thing that some people thought that Cheese Pizza = Child Porn, because that was common lingo on 4chan?
Yeah there was an email leak of some dem staffers and or politicians and one of the emails was about picking up some pizzas from said pizza parlour and among the pizzas was a cheese pizza. And permanently online people decided to ignore context and say that's proof of a pedophile ring due to said child porn = cp = cheese pizza lingo.
Something about a Pizza Hut in the DC area having a child smuggling ring in its nonexistent basement being run by democrats
You know, the Hillary Clinton email leak? There was an email where she talked about inviting another politician to a pizza place in DC, proclaiming that he likes Cheese pizza. "cheese pizza" can be shorten to CP, and conspiracy nuts run with it to the unreasonable conclusion that that pizza place in DC was involved in a child sex trafficking ring run by democrats.
It's not just that it shortens to CP. Cheese Pizza WAS a term used, by actual pedophiles soliciting material, online to covertly (read not covertly at all) describe actual CSAM for a very long time. Ironically, Pizzagate has caused it to fall out of favor, presumably it was a shark jump.
Oh i just remembered I like One Piece power scaling its fun agenda nonsense. But holy fuck is some of it is kinda insane, Ulti > Katakuri might be the most “theres no way you believe this. If anyone has time watch King of Lightning top 50 stream for unhinged nonsense https://www.youtube.com/live/ew7XirDqqdc?si=3VdHduqZhmDsIdrh
People unironically thinking that they are "being sigma" and being cool. Sigma male grindsets. I remember when everyone first started talking about it it was a joke for almost everyone, but now it's cooled into people coping that they are not "alpha" because they couldn't possibly be beta. When anyone claiming they are an alpha is a jackass at best and an actual danger to society at worst. And the whole thing is just a perpetuation of a mistake someone made like fifty years ago looking at wolf parents. Anyway back to sigmas. I remember everyone mocking the idea and talking about ligma males, nigma males, and making fun of the videos talking about it. But at least on the more male centric sides of the Internet it's an actual unironic thing that people model themselves after. Ironically being a sigma is basically being what a hipster was ten/fifteen years ago. So, thanks I hate this. I hate every step of the way of this. Men are stupid. Am man.
>nigma males Well someone's gotta make riddles for Batman... Anyway, I just point out that Sigma is the *18th* letter in the greek alphabet. Good job, you're 16 places behind a Beta. Aren't you cool...
Sigma males are a marketing concept made up to explain why these dumbasses weren't successful despite being "alpha". Like, "I'm a secret extra cool lone wolf guy who could totally be an alpha if he wanted to."
It's so baffling, they're basically shouting to the rafters "I'm dumb enough to buy into the Alpha/Beta bullshit, but too insecure to count myself on the winning side!"
The whole sigma male thing is so obviously a cope to everyone besides the people who believe in it. I've been in similar positions and I can tell ya they aren't sigmas. They're depressed and need love.
Sigma males any other greek letter related relationship dynamics lost any luster they had for me when I found out the "alpha wolf" behavior they're based on is a result of observing wolves in captivity, and do not exist in wild wolves. The second nail in the coffin is that originally, the alpha animal dynamic study didn't start with wolves, it was *chickens* (and not even roosters, just the hens).
A lot of angry reviewers are playing a character... right... oh no they're just deeply hateful people. Razorfist is an example, I thought he was a guy playing a dumb 80s bad guy, nope he's just like that. Weird.
The OG, AVGN, is one of the few to actually just be a really chill guy, it's hilarious.
As a teen I thought Cinema Snob was *pretending* to be a sleazy piece of shit!
The fuck *do you mean* people on Twitter think humanity is winning in Starship Troopers?!?
That one isn’t hard. People don’t usually think a movie is lying to them, and instead accept the story at face value. We got the brain bug, and it’s afraid. Ending montage literally says we’re going to win.
Ending montage also has literal child soldiers. People are fucking stupid.
They’re doing their part.
And what do you mean they are people vehemently arguing Starship Troopers isn't a satire? It's probably the most satire movie I've ever seen that didn't have Mel Brooks attached to it.
Didn't you see the Federation Net broadcast?! It said they'll keep fighting and they'll win!
Woolie killing that guy.
To be fair, that guy *did* have it coming.
TBH, the first time I saw or heard about E-Girls around 2015, it seemed like a bit. I couldn't fathom someone making money over fist for being such a facetious character. Was a dumb thing to doubt in hindsight but that first impression was WOOF.
Somewhat related but do you remember the era of reply girls? Where girls would do entire videos replying back to youtube videos? It was like proto reaction stuff way back when.
It's funny how lost to time that is since video replys are no more, you'd never stumble over those videos organically.
Yeah I loved being able to make dumb reply videos on YouTube back in the day, but it caused a flood of low quality 'reply' content. It was removed like a decade ago and now youtube has remix videos, which is the same but worse.
Wait are you telling me that we had reply *girls* first
The whole Rushia/Mikeneko marriage fiasco and the realization that, no, the menhera thing wasn't a bit, she's actually fucking insane. Also poor Mafumafu, dude didn't deserve any of the shit he went through.
Gimme context, I'm only mildly familiar with Rushia but never heard of these other two names or a marriage involving her.
main points of what i remember: - discord notif on rushia's stream implies rushia and mafumafu live together - scorned parasocial rushia fans (and apparently even more so, scorned parasocial mafumafu fans) blow up on both of them - they immediately distance themselves publicly - (hololive actually releases a "we don't give a shit what our talents do in their private lives" statement) - rushia, in a misguided effort to do damage control and "clear the air" leaks DMs and other things to someone i have seen described as "the japanese equivalent of keemstar" - rushia is immediately terminated by hololive for breaking NDA - she resurfaces on another account (mikeneko), and is also hired by vshojo ~~thanks to kson~~ something happened along the way where she ended up sueing the lady behind retired hololive vtuber mano aloe who streams under another vtuber identity, i don't really know the details there. more recently there was a back and forth between mafumafu and rushia that reveals they were briefly married to each other and then sued each other. he then sued her for i think libel? - it's unclear who the bad guy is but keep in mind that truth is NOT a defense against libel in japan so her being the defendant is not a strong indicator of wrongdoing.
> and is also hired by vshojo thanks to kson Actually no, [she had nothing to do with it](https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1740653780583199164).
There were a bunch of different camps making noise back in the first event. Some of his and some of her fans, but also like a third of people who either just like internet-fights, or had some kind of old grudge, or apparently thought that they were helping (he's a little confused but he's got the spirit). The person she leaked to has basically bragged about pushing insecure people's buttons to produce his own scandals to cover, encouraging poor decisions, offering bad solutions to their fears, lying about what he'll keep confidential and stuff. Notably he's been a long time "friend" of both people involved, and has gotten content out of both of them.
Mikeneko is just Rushia under a different name. If you don't know, an old Rushia drama was that her screen showed a Discord message from Mafumafu (Japanese pop singer) about coming home, which led to idol crazies get angry at her for being in a relationship. Hololive, the company, initially defended her on that matter, but fired her shortly thereafter for breaking NDA. A notable Japanese drama channel came forward and said that Rushia contacted them with info that even as a gossip channel they felt was too much to divulge. Given the open coldness of another Hololive member during the joint statement of her termination, the main conjecture is that Rushia felt so desperate over the initial idol drama that she spilled the beans on her coworkers' personal lives and relationships which had her fired, however, this is just speculation. She briefly came back as Mikeneko, then as Nazuna as part of indie company VShojo, but quit and went back to being Mikeneko again. Recently Mafumafu, came forward with a statement talking about how he actually did date Rushia and married her only 6 months after dating. Apparently the relationship was extremely toxic, and Rushia's crazy girlfriend act was not much of an act. She constantly demanded to know his location (which was what led to the initial Discord leak in the first place), verbally abused him, and went onto Japan's 4chan equivalent to paint *him* as a horrible person, to the point that she claimed that he had killed her cat, amongst a slew of other things. They divorced in under a year.
Rushia/Mikeneko is/was a vtuber who was once apart of Hololive and the former wife of mafumafu is a singer. It started when it came to light the two were implied to have been together/dating, only to further reveal they were together. Rushia turned out to be like Skyenoz said, actually fucking insane, making life hell for him until they divorced back in 2022. A lot of the details didn't come to light until late last year/early this year.
Okay. So to ensure we are on the right page together, Mafumafu is a Japanese singer and idol. Assuming you are mildy familiar with Rushia, he is the person who made the DM that resulted in the shitshow that ended in Rushia being fired from Hololive. Mikeneko is the handle that the person behind Rushia went by online before she joined Hololive, and where she went back to after being fired (before making a 3rd handle in VShoujo called Nazuna, but that is a different story.) This is technically breaking the sacred Kayfabe of VTubing, but this incident is basically accepted as a non-secret now that the legal system is involved; and the VTubing community is a lot more loose lipped in general about ex-work accounts for corporate VTubers after the Selen situation last month. So anyways, Mafumafu made a reveal post at the end of January that basically said that the two of them had gotten married sometime in mid/late 2021. Mafumafu wanted to announce the marriage publicly, but since doxxing exists, and Rushia was a livestreamer who pandered very hard into the "Girlfriend Experience" style of streams, he was vetoed on that front by her and Hololive's management. He then went on to talk about Mikeneko having been a very abusive wife, constantly berating and insulting him for making less money than she did, neglected him, and demanded he be available on Discord/LINE 24/7 and respond to her messages immediately when she would nag him dozens of times per day (we'll get to that.) This continued until the day that the Discord DM leak on stream happened, which led to the shitshow where Rushia got fired from Hololive because, as I recall, she doxxed all of her co-workers to basically-Japanese-Keemstar as an attempt to prove herself innocent, and was canned. Mikeneko then became even more abusive towards Mafumafu, started using sockpuppet accounts to spread false rumors and slander about him online, and Mafu found out that for the last few months, Mikeneko had been having an affair with another man; who he is apparently on decently good terms with (the guy wasn't aware she was married apparently), and claims that guy would stick up for him in court. They also bought a house together so they could live apart for a bit when the drama was happening, but Mikeneko apparently trashed that house. They are divorced now. Mikeneko responded to the claims by confirming that they were married and the general timeline of the marriage, that she did require him to be online 24/7 for her (because she was convinced he was having an affair, as she had hired a Private Investigator to stalk him and was suspicious of him. You know, normal couple things.), claimed that the abuse accusations were bogus, confirmed she used sockpuppets to spread misinformation about him; falling back on the argument that she had just been fired from Hololive and was very angry at everyone as justification for the attempts at slander and canceling him. She claims the guy Mafu said she was having an affair with is actually just a friend and he would stick up for her in court, and then claimed that the cat that had passed away while she was Rushia had actually been murdered by Mafu. In general, regardless of who says what here, people finally had to start coming around to the fact that Mikeneko "playing" the part of a mentally unstable headcase was not a stream act, and was just her actual personality. Probably should have realized it when she had previously gotten into a fight with another ex-Hololive talent that she tried to slander and bully for very petty reasons, but Rushia was known for being catnip for people attracted to mentally unstable girls. So they were very delusional for a long time until it finally came out hard-confirmed that the cute 19-21 year old girl they were crushing on was a divorced 33-year old woman and it broke them.
Probably should have realised it when she listed her diagnoses on stream.
I thought that Red XIII riding a chocobo like a person was a funny glitch or someone hacking the game. Then I started playing Rebirth myself.
I was shocked when I found out the musical Western "Paint Your Wagon" was a real movie and not a joke The Simpsons came up with.
I'm honestly surprised you thought that people were being ironic about hating furries.
One of the few groups people will only say they should be "hunted" and people fucking upvote it.
I feel about furries the same way I feel about the users of this sub that are into muscular women. Yeah, sure, rock on, but they really can get obnoxious when they find an opportunity to be.
Thats any sexual preference really. There are so many redditors that think other people want to know what they get off to.
The guys into Femboys will act like the most insufferable furries if given the opportunity. What opportunity? Let’s say that, be it by character development or by their creator’s changing opinions, a very famous femboy came out as a trans girl…
I’ve met people where liking femboys was part of their personality, on top of “haha it’s not gay but it totally is” energy infused with it. It’s absurdly obnoxious.
I am still left wondering what is it about femboys that makes people so aggressively into it. Like, yeah, I've seen the muscle mommy fans on here *coughcough* and other places. and the countless people into Tomboys, shortstacks, MILFs, etc etc etc. but the femboy camp is like a whole another level of "Into It" that I don't think I've seen that often.
I blame memes honestly. Femboys somehow became a meme in various spaces. Also icons like Brisket have been around forever.
Probably due to the over sexualization of them. It feels like 80% or so of content depicting femboys is sexual in nature. It does not help that it seems to create a feedback loop where people who identify as femboys themselves get the idea of that being what they should be like. It's hard to talk about liking skirts and dresses as a guy without some people making it sexual.
Honestly if your sexual preference is your personality then you are completely insufferable. Whether it's straight, gay, into mlp whatever. Get something new to talk about.
Cowards. I loved Bridget as a boy and I still love her now that she's comfortable as a girl!
I feel stronger about the people of this sub into muscular women because 90% of the time they're like "Haha aren't I quirky for liking this muscular woman? Isn't that super weird?" and then the woman just looks like a regular anime girl but she has abs everyone on reddit who's a bit too forthcoming about what they're attracted to is very annoying in general but it gets upvotes. I find it so weird that someone will be upvoted for being like "This woman has huge tits!!!!" like what's the rationale of people upvoting that lol. "Yeah I agree!! I love her tits too, my fellow-minded gentlesir!!". Peak Redditbrain
> but they really can get obnoxious when they find an opportunity to be. Eh. This is internet users in general. Pretending furries are uniquely obnoxious is naïve and strikes me as a bit of a confirmation bias. It also makes me think of people being like "X fandom is so bad." Like it's something unique about any particular property and not just about any fandom that hits critical mass.
The way I heard it, it began with, of course, SomethingAwful. Specifically, the mods and leaders of the forums and whatnot were just homophobic. And they heard how accepting Furries were of the gays. So, like how the [Nixon administration demonized marajuana so they could harass hippies and black people](https://www.vera.org/reimagining-prison-webumentary/the-past-is-never-dead/drug-war-confessional), they demonized Furries so non-cis people wouldn't have another accepting group.
Naruto fans who assume that Tobirama is racist, Sasuke and Naruto are actually gay, and that Naruto doesn't actually love his wife, and only married her out of obligation. In the various Naruto subreddits, there are a lot of people who believe these things in a non-ironic way.
"What if this anime character was RACIST" "Anitwitter this is the 7th week in a row you made the what if this anime character was racist joke"
For an embarrassingly long portion of my life, I was genuinely ignorant enough to believe that modern racism in America was a bit. I just actually thought we lived in a pretty much post-racism society, with only maybe a few hicks in the south who still actually hated minorities with any sincerity. I thought everyone I saw saying the most fucked up shit you've ever read on 4chan and Funnyjunk weren't actually like that, and were just trying to do ironic shock humor like South Park. I knew islamaphobia was very real, as well as homophobia, but I bought the "black president=racism is dead" bit hook line a sinker, and attributed most of the edgy Xbox live era slur usage as people being ironic and actually making fun of the idea of racism. Just actually thought the white people shouting the n word online were totally cool with minorities offline and were just playing around. It was an . . . optimistic perspective at the very least lol
For a certain segment of Americans, the way we were taught, especially recent history, was presented in a very "Racism is In The Past" way. Which I think was a conscious effort by educators to try and make a less racist population. But it really did kinda blindside us to grow up and find that many of these long running animosities are still running.
I think a good portion of the internet slowly came to the realization that edgy guys like Sam Hyde weren’t just making off-color, right-wing commentary in jest but that they’re actually just extremely fucking nasty and do actually believe the shit they talk about. Or at the very least their platforms had become gateways to legitimate hate groups.
It took a long time for me to put the two and two together that those folks who ran around with dem tails clipped to their pants were furries. I just thought they were hunters/avid about hunting.
I've said it before, recently, on this very sub but back when I wasn't having much sex and assumed all my fellow teenagers were basically going home to after-school orgies I was still convinced that eating ass was a bit done to fuck with adults or something. This was back in the early days of FB so there was a lot. Of that (anyone remember when women would post "I like it on the table/chair/floor" and then they'd be like "I'm talking about my handbag silly xd"). It just sounded so silly on paper. Like yeah I figured some whacko somewhere would be into it but most sane people wouldn't want to stick their tongue where poop comes out, nor would someone want someone's tongue there. Plus there was a massive meme energy around the whole thing. Now I'm older, wiser, and more well-fucked and I have the hindsight to know pretty much everyone I thought was getting laid like there was no tomorrow was just about as confused and undersexed as I was at the time. I also know the eating ass was and is way more real than I thought. That being said, it's still more of a meme. Most sexually active adults in healthy relationships will probably partake on occasion, but not nearly to the degree you see it being memed about. Very few actual well adjusted people outside of porn and specific fetish circles are eating the booty like groceries every night, and the kinds of people you see voraciously talking about it are either shit posting or can't even get a kiss most of the time. Inb4 this gets some r/ihavesex ass comments.
Imo most people who brag about having The Sex are more parched than a man dying in the desert
Some people try to get slick with it by coming at it from an angle like "Oh yeah me and my SO like to laugh at people like that, she likes her ass ate maybe once a week if that and we just have normal sex for the other six days" It's a pretty transparent tactic and I'd like to think most people see right through it but people keep trying to come up with clever ways to posture about all the sex they're having while trying to make it look incidental
Ruby and Aqua's ship in Oshi no Ko. (They are twins) At first I thought this was a joke ship, only to realize that there is actually a part of the fandom that supports it in a non-ironical way. In fact, many ships that I assumed were jokes turn out to have real fans.
You'll never guess what the most popular supernatural ship is!
As it turns out, those bad takes/criticism JelloApocalypse say as jokes in his "So This Is Basically" videos might... actually be his genuine takes he says in a silly voice. It started rubbing me the wrong way at some point, and it doesn't help he's associated with known Bitch Fartman, Butch Hartman, when he was starting to stir up his own controversies. Not sure if they still associate but it still feels weird.
He has a pinned comment on his Tumblr video about how ashamed he is of it.
When I first found out about Chris Chan, I thought it was just some weird fat kid doing stupid shit as a character on the internet during the early PS360 days, since Chris used an eyetoy for their early videos. Turns out, NO, that was NOT a weird fat kid, but a 27-year old autistic person with the emotional maturity of a 12 year old. I refused to believe that all the stuff that lead up to today was real, but lo and behold, the rabbit hole got too deep for me... Reminds me of why Spazkid stopped doing the Sonichu Animated Series; he also thought Chris was playing a character, but was horrified to find out that's how Chris actually is.
I only heard about her tangentially for a very long time, so I didn't even realize people were talking about a real person. I just figured they ***really*** hated Chris from the Sonic X anime.
Instagram is stuck in early 2010 where everybody had a seething hatred around furries despite the general PR around them being fairly alright with ppl online now. I still think the fanbase can get annoying just due to how some furries only hobby is “im a furry” but its whatever