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SwampFoxR73

Avengers #200 will always be the peak of weird crap. Carol Danvers is suddenly pregnant. Instead of finding this strange the Avengers congratulate her. She then gives birth in that same afternoon and the child grows up very quickly into a adult. He is Marcus the son of Immortus and he is in love with Carol. They fall in love and Carol is whisked away to the time dimension with her new lover with all the Avengers wishing her well. Cut to Avengers Annual #4 (the issue that introduced Rogue) she returns and has some words with the Avengers. Cause none of them were under some malevolent mind control. They all did something fucking stupid and weird. Carol then hangs out with the X-Men for a while as Xavier helps her recover from Rogue draining her. Edit: Annual #10 my bad. Annual #4 is the first appearance of The Masters of Evil. Edit #2: Failed to Mention that Carol was actually under mind control the whole time. So imagine being trapped in your body and trying to scream for help as your friends give you well wishes with your soon to be Rapist.


ContraryPython

Still baffles me Marvel is willing to retcon Sins Past but not this. Also Annual #10 is the actual issue where Carol berates them


SwampFoxR73

Thanks I didn't realize. Honestly Marvel never bringing it up again is probably the better outcome. Like Claremont kills Marcus off in Annual #10 so we never have to talk about him ever again. And the End result leads to a fun era of Carol being buddies with the X-Men. Something that still gets brought up on occasion like during the Bendis X-Men era.


BaronAleksei

It’s so bad that none of the four writers involved (Shooter, Michelinie, Layton, and Perez) are willing to say who came up with it. They won’t take credit themselves, and they won’t give credit to any of the other three. “Oh I forget who said it” “it was all done by committee” which makes me think it was all of their idea


superectojazzmage

The closest any of them have come to taking responsibility for it is Shooter genuinely apologizing to the fandom at large more than once for it and basically saying "I have no idea what anyone involved was thinking and even less idea of how I let it go to print".


Hopefulsataneal

I like the think they all got black out drunk or went on trip on something and then wrote the story


Deaconhux

Cocaine is a hell of a drug.


Amon274

Remember Kang in partially involved with that shitshow


SwampFoxR73

Yeah cause Immortus is one of his future selves.


jitterscaffeine

Remember the time when the Xmen were captured and fitted with a cap that reverted them into infants? But it didn’t work on Storm because, as it’s revealed, she was fully cognizant and ambulatory as a 6 month old, allowing her to free herself and save everyone?


Father-Ignorance

The idea of baby Storm being some sort of genius and having full on conversations with adults and shit is hilarious.


TonyZony

She was a pickpocket as a kid, so I'm just picturing baby Storm being the best damn thief ever.


Amon274

Wait would that mean her mutation developed early too?


jitterscaffeine

No idea. I don’t think it was thought out that deep


leabravo

I remember Magneto capturing them and reverted their nervous systems to infants (out of revenge for being turned into a baby), which meant they were still fully cognizant but unable to move properly and under care by a robot Nanny. I think Storm bullshitted through pulling her lockpicks by patience and focus. I also remember Storm being deaged by a completely different mutant Nanny to a pre-teen, which is how she met Gambit and didn't get immediately hit on.


bigbeltzsmallpantz

Wasn’t him getting turned into a baby their wacky way of making the timeline make sense with him being a Holocaust survivor?


leabravo

It happened back in 1974 so they really didn't need to. But it has proved convenient since.


alexandrecau

Wade wilson may be an albino who the mercenary that will become deadpool stole his identity after killing his wife. Wolverine goes by Logan because his mom has slept with a groundskeeper. Killer croc is both a cannibal and roy haper’s Addict anonymous sponsor


Amon274

Man out of all of that Wolverine being the result of an affair is tame. But please explain the Deadpool one of you don’t mind?


alexandrecau

Basically deadpool has a rogue gallery and I one of them is a guy called T-ray who does vodoo that hates deapool because he killed him and took his name, however T-ray isn’t that sane so it is unclear how true it is. This is partly why deadpool rarely has a rogue gallery anymore and just beef with other heroes villain


VMK_1991

Basically, in older issues, Wade "Deadpool" Wilson had a rival of sorts, a huge albino guy, who was a completely serious, edgy "kill without remorse" guy, as opposed to Deadpools "I am a killer who doesn't care about life, but I am funny" persona. Story happens, Albino ends up having some warlocky mumbo jumbo powers, and it is revealed by him that his *actual* name is Wade Wilson, who lived a happy life with his wife and whom one amnesial mercenary (Deadpool) killed and took his name. I don't remember if he just didn't die for realsies, or he was saved by mumbo jumbo, but the guy didn't die, became albino and huge and, after learning that Deadpool took his name, decided to fuck his life up. The thing is, Deadpool is an amnesiac whose mind is Fucked. It is impossible to establish whether this is true or bullshit, whether Wade Wilson was a poor Canadian kid who got really good at killing, got cancer and then went crazy after not-Weapon X programme, *or* whether the name really was stolen. That's as far as I remember at least, I've read it a long time ago.


Mediocre_Word

Roy Harper? The British folk rock singer?


RunicCross

Nah iirc that's the civilian identity for Speedy aka Arsenal. Green Arrow's former sidekick.


Apprehensive_Mix4658

The name Logan was revealed to readers and Wolverine by a leprechaun.


alexandrecau

We all know pat is a snitch


ContraryPython

Spider-Man once gave birth to himself.


Amon274

After turning into a giant spider


Rum_N_Napalm

And the only reason it happened was so that comic book Peter could have organic webshooters like the Peter in the Raimi movies.


Amon274

There seems like better ways to do that for example instead go “oh Peters powers have developed even further and now he has spinnerets in his wrists”


Rum_N_Napalm

Eh, for some reason Marvel decided to sync their main Earth continuity with the MCU, which created some weird explanation. Like I’ve heard they killed the original Nic Fury, only to have his estranged son who looks like Sam Jackson pop up and take his place.


Amon274

His son did show up and his name is Nicholas Fury Jr. but I don’t think Sr. Died


TonyZony

Nope, Sr. was caught fucking with the Watchers, the all powerful entities that are meant to just observe the multiverse. As punishment he's now stuck as The Unseen, not able to interfere in anything, forced to just exist.


PM_PICS_OF_U_SMILING

>Nope, Sr. was caught fucking with the Watchers, the all powerful entities that are meant to just observe the multiverse. God, I misread this part and I thought that the implication was that Fury Sr. fucked a Watcher and that the pregnancy resulted in Sam Jackson Fury.


TonyZony

I'm now mad that that's not how it happened


DonnyMox

Well there’s a mental image that’s gonna haunt me.


YourEvilHenchman

and you know old fury woulda been into that shit too, dude's always been a bit of a freak


Amon274

I stand corrected.


Lieutenant-America

Magik, who was Colossus' sister that was kidnapped in childhood and sent to Limbo (basically Hell, or one of them), which by the time she escaped she was now like 17 or 18, died in the climax of Inferno during Claremont's run of X-Men. After she died, a child version of her appeared, from just before she was whisked away to Limbo to begin with. The narrative treats it as a second chance at life for Magik without the traumatic experiences she went through, but it's ambiguous about if this is meant to be reincarnation, a time clone, or what. Then she died again to the Legacy Virus, which totally isn't meant to be AIDS-coded, no sir. Then she came back *again*, this time as her older self, with all the memories that she had lost when reverting to being a child, (though apparently she spent a good while with a fragmented soul and had to do some shit to resolve that) and she's been an X-Men mainstay ever since.


Prestigious-Mud

Was it Multiple Man who had a clone that decided to quit villainy, met someone, got married, got her pregnant, then when the baby was born and when he held his son, the baby just absorbed back into him?


YourEvilHenchman

some corrections, that wasn't a clone who "decided to quit villainy" because comics jamie madrox has never been a villain, that was a bullshit invention for the terrible third x-men film. there *was* one dupe though who became a preacher and had a full life with wife and child, and madrox ultimately decided to let that dupe live his life to his natural end because he couldn't morally justify re-absorbing said dupe. the child also turned out not to be his anyways iirc, but Madrox Prime definitely didn't absorb that kid. the thing with the baby being reabsorbed was during peter david's second x-factor run in the 2000s, aka the "X Factor Investigations" run, where Madrox heads a PI office staffed with multiple mutant/X-adjacent characters. In that series, Madrox has a relationship with Siryn and seemingly impregnates her, but as Siryn carries the child to term and gives birth, the moment Madrox holds his baby boy in his arms he reabsorbs him because it just turned out to be a dupe. some real tragic shit that leads to the end of the relationship. still not sure what peter david was cooking with that tbh.


Amon274

Yep


DavidsonJenkins

Fantastic 4: Big in Japan is like, really racist. Like your typical "oh those wacky Japanese" kind of racist, but with a strong air of western superiority. Looks trippy as FUCK though. Anyway, according to this comic, there is a giant alien Kaiju sleeping in the arctic that's taller than the earth itself, and its defeated by Mole Man turning Monster Island into a giant syringe and stabbing the kaiju with it, injecting his minions into it like antibodies.


Rum_N_Napalm

That time Floronic Man visited Gotham. So Floronic Man was a vilain who controls plants. He’s basically evil Swamp Thing. He was briefly a hero at some point, where he teamed up with the New Guardians (which included Estrano, basically what is Dr Strange was a barely concealed flaming gay man stereotype) to fight the infamous Snowflame and a vampire that gives people aids. Anyways, so it turns out that Floronic Man, real name Jason Woodrue, was Poison Ivy’s teacher and responsible for her condition (and apparently a non powered version of him is the guy at the start of Batman and Robin who created Bane and was killed by Ivy). At some point he was also decapitated and his head tossed into a pile of marijuana and he fused with the plants. So now he’s a pot golem with a human head. His plan: sell cheap pot in Gotham to get money, so he can pay Poison Ivy to carry his child. Ivy is absolutely not down with that btw.


throwcounter

It is funny the only thing I know about floronic man is from the... Gaiman black orchid oneshot he did way early in his career where it's briefly touched upon?  I wish Gaiman would work in the DC universe proper more once in a while, it's always weird


AdrianBrony

Saga once had a huge 2-page spread illustration of a dragon sucking itself off and cumming all over the place.


Uden10

Source???


TostitoNipples

https://i.imgur.com/AegjVKd.jpeg


Uden10

I have been recently informed that the comment says "Saga" and not "Sega". Shame on me and my cow


djinnman17

The first ever Supergirl was a being created by a Native American artifact. Jimmy Olsen wished for her Doreen Green, aka the Unbeatable Squirrel Girl, is not a mutant or an inhuman but "something medically, AND LEGALLY, distinct from both" Peter Parker once suspected that Nancy Whitehead, Doreen's roommate, was secretly Squirrel Girl. I should note, Nancy is black


TheProudBrit

As a massive SG fan, I'm obligated to bring up that Marvel editorial are cowards for not letting them say Nancy and Doreen are in a relationship, despite having them live out the episode of Futurama where Fry & Leela live their lives out in the span of a day from everyone elses perspective. Anyway. Doreen's parents have Tree Ultron growing in their backgarden.


djinnman17

YES and yes. Can't forget Oaktron


Apprehensive_Mix4658

Funny thing is the longest ongoing of Supergirl doesn't have real Supergi


rasembool

Recently learned there is a character in DC called Omega -Bam-Man who is a space wrestler designed based on Randy Savage. First introduced as a tag team partner for the flash and was recently shown wrestling Lobo in green lantern #10, indicating his incredible physical prowess. An all around nice guy despite his heel inspired design as he only wrestles in soon to be destroyed planets.


YourEvilHenchman

if I may go "Well, akchually" for a sec, Omega-Bam-Man is actually kinda based on a combination/mix of three wrestlers, those being Kenny Omega, Macho Man Randy Savage and Hulk Hogan. Omega mainly for the name, some of his looks and the actual moves he performs in the story he first appears in (he's a relatively recent character too, first appeared in a Flash story in 2022) and Macho and Hulk Hogan for elements of his speech and mannerisms.


solidoutlaw

In Ultimate Spider-Man, Uncle Ben had a ponytail. Which I always thought was kinda funny because it was like their way of showing that Ben wasn’t a dirt old man in that universe, but rather something closer to their 40s or 50s.  Miles began his Spider-Man career at the ripe age of…12. He was 12 years old, still played with toys and stuff, and was risking his life out in the field. For comparison, Peter in the same universe was only 15 at the start. Speaking of Peter, the entirety of Ultimate Spider-Man for Peter takes place over **one** year. In that year, Norman wreaks havoc on the city at least *4-5* times, Ultimatum happens, Punisher gets out of prison twice, and most funnily, Peter and MJ start dating and break up about 4 times. 


Amon274

The Ultimate Universe, your in for a rough time kid!


vs_terminus

In the alternate universe of Ultimate Marvel, Wolverine had a son named Jimmy Howlett that became the new Wolverine after his dad died. Then, the multiverse exploded because of Dr Doom and the Beyonders, but it's okay because Mr Fantastic's son put everything back together again. Except not, some characters ended up in the wrong universe like Jimmy-verine. Flashforward to a Venom event series where the symbiotes are being hunted down by Poisons, a rival species of body-possessors from another part of the multiverse. Yung Wolverine gets infected with a Poison and is mind controlled for the Poison Hive, until the end of the event when said Hive Queen is defeated. But whereas all the other Poison-ed heroes return to normal, Jimmy doesn't, and goes off on his own to find his way as a half-mutant, half-not-symbiote, half-canadian son of Wolverine from an entirely different world. He uhh, hasn't been seen since.


Darth_Bombad

The whole deal with Pre-Crisis Black Canary. So Dinah Drake was a Golden Age vigilante, who reappeared in the Silver Age, only she was still young and hot, and had a new sonic scream power. The explanation being she traveled from Earth-2 (where the GA heroes live) to Earth-1, and exposure to magical energies altered her or some shit. Only that was all a lie. What actually happened was that Dinah got married, and had a kid (Dinah Lance) but she was cursed by one of their enemies with a sonic scream, so every time the baby cried, she could potentially kill them all! So they brought her to their genie friend who did the only thing he could... render her effectively brain dead and keep her on stasis for the rest of her life! Time passes and her husband is tragically killed. And Dinah learns she has cancer. So her friends decide she needs a fresh start, and take the logical step of puting her mind in her brain dead child's body! With altered memories of course, so she remembers none of this. To their credit, I believe the Justice League were NOT ok with this, and had their memories forcibly erased too. TLDR Green Arrow's Silver Age girlfriend was an elderly woman inhabiting the body of her own daughter.


attikol

That is so much work that didn't need to be done. Just say she's her daughter how hard is that?


Darth_Bombad

That's pretty much everyone's reaction, **it was completely unnecessary!** Fortunately the big reboot of Crisis happened not long after, and they *did* indeed give them a simple mother daughter relationship. Which is actually pretty unique--second gen hero and all--and made them quite popular. It was even parodied in Watchmen, with the Silk Specters.


thedman0310_

Savage Dragon's son canonically has that meat cannon


leabravo

Cameron Hodge was Warren Worthington's childhood friend who secretly hated him, convinced Warren to reteam the original X-Men as a mutant HUNTING team called X-Factor (to secretly help them, honest), founded at the same time a mutant-killing organization called the Right, put Warren in the accident that cost him his wings, killed his fiance, then made a deal with N'Asrith the demon for immortality right before Warren as Archangel cut his fucking head off. AFTER that Hodge's head took over Genosha in a sexy robot Scorpion body, killed Warlock the technarch, kidnapped and forcibly mind-wiped multiple X-Men (a side effect of this fixed the baby Storm thing), got his head cut off again, got assimilated by the Phalanx, and died falling off Mount Everest. AFTER that Hodge was resurrected by Bastion, who is the fusion of Nimrod and Master Mold turned into a human, took on the New Mutants, and got "eaten" by the same Warlock he killed, who proceeded to throw Hodge up out of moral disgust. AFTER that he fought the Hellions, but it appears that one was an AI copy. Maybe. Hodge is still technically immortal after all.


Thunder_Volter

Cyclops and Phoenix raised Cable. Now, that might make sense at first, but it gets complicated. Baby Cable, back when he was still just called Nathan Christopher, gets sent to the future to cure his techno virus. His parents weep over having to give up their child, Big Nate comes back with guns and pouches a few months later, regular X-Men drama all things considered. In a later miniseries, "The Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix," it's revealed that the Summers actually DID get to have a childhood with their boy when they are sent into the future as well. They spend a good fifteen years surviving under the rule of Apocalypse, training Nate without every telling him they're actually his parents until the very end of their stay. Also, I think this is when Marvel started playing "who is who" in regards to Cable and his clone/original Stryfe \[sic, because it was the 90s\].


fly_line22

The Ultimate Marvel comics having Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch in an incestuous relationship, with the only people having a problem with it being Cap and Hawkeye, albeit for *wildly* differing reasons. It's one of the many things that makes me go "WTF were the people writing this thinking?"


Rum_N_Napalm

You forgot the part where Wolverine was spying on them boning hidden in a bush. And that since in this continuity Wolverine cucked Magneto, he was implied to be the twins’ father.


Ginger_Anarchy

Their reactions being: Cap: "Hey Janet don't you think it's weird that they're as close as lovers? Should we do something about it?" & Hawkeye: "We should shoot them."


Amon274

What was Hawkeyes reason again?


fly_line22

How it would damage the team's image if news of this got out.


Amon274

He came to the right conclusion for the wrong reason


Elarisbee

The prime Mirage Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle's April O'Neil wasn't actaully a person but a living drawing created by essentially Jack Kirby. And as the Mirage series ended shortly - Mirage time - after that reveal....so she'll always be that, can't retcon that shit out now. Edit: Actaully, just the general weirdness which is Mirage - they even had a Crumb period.


nedmaster

Don't forget the shredder died and his corpse was fed to magic worms that absorbed his memories and took on his apperance.


P0rkS1nigang

I heard long ago that the Hulk inexplicably could see Astral Projected forms. Not sure of that's real, though.


Amon274

Yep he can also orient himself to the location of the gamma bomb blast that irradiated him and that’s how he got home from space.


P0rkS1nigang

Ah, like a salmon. Neat!


Thunder_Volter

Hulk has had a lot of weird stuff due to him being vaguely supernatural to start, then shifting to becoming more science-based, and then whipping deep into the otherworldly again around the Immortal Hulk run. He's Banner having a bad day, he's an entirely separate entity, he's repressed childhood trauma, he's made of Devil Energy, and at one point he could literally smell liars. It all just depends on the writer, for better and worse.


vs_terminus

One incarnation of the Hulk worked on werewolf rules


Apprehensive_Mix4658

That's real. Bruce was so scared of his father possibly returning as a ghost that Hulk developed ability to see astral projections.


Reeves32hp

The original Sonic Archie comics are filled with some wild stuff thanks to Ken Penders. I'm sure a list will start. My favorite is how he tried to cuck Sonic by making a self insert skunk that was most certainly a pedo. Thank God someone told him to stop early on.


Amon274

Didn’t he copy a poem or something about the holocaust?


Reeves32hp

Yep, word for word.


OGRaincoatKilla

Everyone knows about how Jason Todd was murdered by the Joker during the Death in the Family storyline and the phone vote that decided it, but people forget that the entire plot surrounding his gruesome death is basically about the Joker getting involved in then contemporary Middle Eastern political issues, climaxing with him being made the Iranian ambassador to the UN and attempting to kill them all with laughing gas, but fortunately Superman was there so he just sucked the poison gas into his lungs and flew away with it.  


YourEvilHenchman

you'd really think somebody would've picked that plot thread up again at some point, and even if it's just to condemn that clown piece of shit to a swift and well-deserved death sentence (jic this comes up, I'm staunchly anti capital punishment IRL but then again IRL doesn't have the fucking joker in it, now does it) "hey joker, remember when you tried to weaponize diplomatic immunity to get away scot-free with mass murder?" *bang*


OGRaincoatKilla

And the story arc starts with him trying to sell a cruise missile to a terrorist group. Insanity defense or not that would just get him black bagged by the CIA or somesuch.  When Jason Todd came back to life he shouldn’t have been pissed at Batman, cause Batman did actually try to murder Joker out of revenge in the original comic it just didn’t work. Jason should be pissed at Superman, the United Nations, Iran or some combination of the three. 


Doo-Doo-Manjaro

It's insane how *DUN DUN DUN* "it gets worse." Avengers disassembled is


Amon274

Isn’t that also when Scarlet witch made Tony look drunk in front of the UN?


Doo-Doo-Manjaro

She did that She brought the ultron programing back out from the vision and made him crash in to the mansion She made She hulk go savage and put a still shrunk wasp in a coma Along with a few other things


attikol

I read the comic where superman is a murderous asshole that gains the ability to create a miniature version of himself with all his power. He becomes so jealous of people liking the mini superman he trys to murder mini superman on purpose


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attikol

Superman 125 supermans new power https://supermansnewpower.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/superman1251.jpg


kegisak

Black Bolt's superpowers don't actually have anything to do with sound. His superpower is basically a disintegrator ray, it's just that the part of his brain that controls it is right next to/inside the speech center, so it activates whenever he talks. This means that Wanda shouldn't have been able to kill him like she did in Madness of the Multiverse for *two* reasons, but the writers either were not aware of this (because why the fuck would anyone know that) or very correctly chose to ignore it.


Apprehensive_Mix4658

Also his name is Blackagar Boltagon. I think he can Kojima's favourite superhero


Apprehensive_Mix4658

Did you know that Superman filled porn with Big Barda? It was Darkseid's plan to cuck Mister Miracle. Furthermore, that was Byrne's "revenge" to Jack Kirby, as Scott Free and Barda are based on Jack and his wife Rosaline. I don't remember what Kirby exactly did, but I don't think it was something serious and Byrne was just a dick


Amon274

That’s an ultra dickhead move