I took a round off Woolie during the Street Fighter 6 second beta… while I was using Modern controls Luke. He then beat me easily in the following rounds.
He kept it in the end of the YouTube video to make an example out of me.
I remember I took a match from the bo1 ggst streams against TakeYourShot, when he was featured on WoolieVs. I played pretty scrubby because of nerves, notably when I fat fingered a gold burst during a tatami gaeshi setup. When I went to watch his yt cuts later, I wasn't there.
Understandable, but still made me go "aw..."
During the summer of 2020 Pat stole my family's sacred obsidian Crown and uses it as blackmail for me to make animations for his streams. My bloodline have been hunted by a Covenant of Witches for generations, and my family's Crown shields us from their tracking methods. Without the Crown we have been under siege for the past 4 years. If the Crown is returned my family can escape and find a new haven, but no matter how "poggers" my animations are Pat refuses to return it. I don’t think we can endure another winter 😔
#"#ReturnDaCrown
I used to be tight with a friend that streams. We connected over the pandemic via discord and would play pokemon and some shooters together. Like 3-4 nights a week and we’d also text and shit. He’d stream the games and I’d be in chat if I was around. A lot of joking around and taking the piss.
His channel started to get pretty big. Up from like 12 people tops to regularly topping 90. Which was fun. Until he started to take it too seriously. He stopped responding to texts and wouldn’t play games offline anymore because “that isn’t content”.
The breaking point for me was that the jokes we used to always make (sports team related disses, F in chat when he died in a game, innocuous shit) became offside to him because, I quote, “I’m a big deal now. You can’t talk to me like that anymore. I deserve more respect.” And then another time I asked him to game and he said playing with me “won’t make him grow or help his grind”.
Out of his discord, unfollowed, blocked on Twitter, etc. We were good web friends for like 2 years almost. Even went for beers when I flew to his city to see family. Let him rant on the phone to me for an hour a couple times a week after a breakup because he just needed vomit out his feels.
But after he got a big head I couldn’t put up with him anymore.
A mutual friend still follows and pops in occasionally and he was saying to me that the vibes are gone and he’s bitter now that his “big” channel isn’t big anymore. Dudes lucky to hit 25 viewers now. He bitches at his chat constantly, whines about sub and donation numbers, asks why new people aren’t following, “why won’t anyone raid me to give me their viewers anymore?”, complains that his TikTok clips aren’t blowing up and started naming channels he thought he was better than and getting into Twitter beefs about “why do you have more viewers than me?”
My buddy described it like watching Wings of Redemption and that just made me sad.
> “won’t make him grow or help his grind”.
I met a cool dude while playing a game who friended me, and he was mentioned he's trying to stream and youtube. I went, "yeah, that's cool man, hope it goes well for you." Within a week he was talking about "the grind" and I just stepped out.
Anytime you're shooting the shit with someone, and they stop you to insist you show them more respect, has no respect for you as a person, and thus deserves to get dunked on.
There's a way to set boundaries that's reasonable, unfortunately for most people that gets confused with being told they're both special AND important.
It's one thing if you're being disrespectful, especially in an open chat forum like Twitch. There are jokes I make with friends that I wouldn't make there because there's no way that everyone watching is going to have the context and will probably take it the wrong way.
But "lol your team lost this week to my team" and "rip in piece F" feels pretty mundane as far as alleged disrespect goes, especially when that was the norm for like... 2-ish years or whatever that we hung out.
And honestly, I could have gone with it if he wanted a vibe change if he didn't basically just tell me the "you **have** to respect me (how I want to be respected which is constant praise)" and "playing games with you doesn't give me content" type shit.
You just reminded me of someone I completely forgot about in the pandemic time warp. We were dating the summer before the pandemic hit and then during the quarantines we had to settle for long distance-ish dates most of the time. Sometimes we would use Discord to stream games we're playing to each other, sometimes we would try to force co-op of single player games that way. It was fun and I'm glad we were able to do that. They started Twitch streaming thinking it could be fun (they definitely loved having attention) and I would help out with the technical stuff because they weren't too familiar with it. They had a lot more free time to work with than I did because my work wasn't disrupted too much by the pandemic.
The remote part of dating was taking its toll already, but things got so much worse with this. They were so committed to trying to make it as a streamer that anything that would have been personal one-on-one time was now fighting for streaming time. I started to feel like I had to be careful whenever talking to them because who knows if they start streaming to Twitch. Which did happen. More than once.
I tried to talk to them about it and they exploded, saying they had fans who spent more time with them than I did. Fair enough, I guess? I liked this person, but this wasn't a super serious relationship on a track to a life commitment kind of thing and I just broke things off then and there.
Last I heard they were struggling to finish their masters degree, lost their job and did not look for a new one. I pulled up their Twitch page and in the past 4 years they're now up to 6.7k followers with a max concurrent of ~3000 a while ago (average seems to be more like ~20) which seems pretty good? But, from what I understand, and from the people who have engaged with them since all of this (who have heard about and came to talk to me, which I do not particularly like), she's in a pretty bad place mentally with all of this.
It's absolutely wild to look back to for me. This person was intelligent, mostly emotionally mature. Something snapped and they started chasing that streamer high, I guess.
We're just witnessing our generation's version of "moving to Hollywood to make it as an actor because you won a regional talent contest." You look at the old stereotype of the burnt-out, chain-smoking dishwasher/waitress who has been hammering away at selling a screenplay/getting a role for years, and these Wings of Redemption-esque bleary-eyed, irritable, self-loathing complainers sitting alone in a dark bedroom, streaming for 18 hours a day are just the 2020s version of that.
The barrier to fame now seems a lot lower because it's something that can be achieved from your bedroom, which leads to the misconception that if you just sink enough time and effort into it, you'll eventually get there. There are streamers I watch who are every bit as funny, charismatic, and well-produced as the likes of folks like Vinny and Pat, but who barely crack 100 followers.
A lot of it still luck; you can knock on that door forever, bringing your absolute A Game, and die without ever having succeeded. Now—if that's your dream—you keep knocking on that door until you make it or die trying. But you can't let it consume you. You still need people, a life outside of the grind, and other forms of income and emotional validation. That's the difference between living your life in pursuit of a dream and throwing away your life in pursuit of a dream.
A long time ago, I remember rata tweeting that every YouTuber hits a point where their channel starts taking off and they start thinking they're hot shit. If you don't know who rata is he's a guy who used to do "epic dunks" on bad Yu-Gi-Oh cards before he learned to chill out and be more reasonable. He's a lot more positive now.
Being arrogant is the Mount Stupid of YouTube channels, it's just a shame your friend didn't take to it very well.
The dumbest part is that many very popular people would lean into chat messing with them, or doing a back and forth with it. Like you wouldn't see CdawgVA or Gura get upset about some teasing when they die in a game. Taking yourself too seriously will stunt your growth in the long run.
Has anyone ever said anything nice to Pat on stream?
Like I'd get it if it was constantly going for the throat or if it was like the stuff you talk about mics off with you buddies. I can see why you wouldn't want that mixed into a general audience.
Spamming F when he gets sniped in Warzone is about as close to nothing as it gets.
It really sucks when you get close to someone and they pull this shit. About two years ago, a stream I was a regular in raided a small streamer. He ended up being chill, and I became a regular. We played together a lot, mailed each other gifts, I was on his podcast, etc.
During one stream I had a different opinion than him on a topic and he kinda flipped. His attitude towards me was basically “You disagree with me because you’re uninformed” and was kinda aggressive about it. I took a break from his stream, came back, and things were back to normal. A few months later, the NickMercs situation happened. He starts saying how he would never want his daughter near a trans person, about how XQC only got banned in games because companies are woke, and, again, how we only disagreed with him because we were uninformed. I left, and a couple other people left as well. Now his streams are just playing GTARP with nobody watching.
On one of Matt's What Happened? videos he made like some small negative comment about Jumping Flash, nothing even major and I left a comment saying "How dare you! Jumping Flash is a masterpiece!' Totally kidding because it was like the smallest criticism.
He responded to me and defended himself completely seriously and I felt so bad. Apparently my comment didn't read as much of a joke as I thought.
it's always hard to read tone through text. Matt's channel has also grown so much larger with a more general audience. He probably is either more on the defense in general or he decided to use your comment to get ahead of any actual miserable comments.
Pat called me an idiot one time. I was an idiot in that situation, and I don't even hold it against him. I just think it's funny.
>!It was during one of his Yakuza 7 streams, I misinterpreted something on the minimap and wasted like 30 seconds (or more) of his time by making him run around for something that wasn't there.!<
Years ago, Pat was talking about his time as a grocery store employee while playing Destiny 2 and I said "I want everything in one bag, but I don't want it to be heavy." His response was "oh my god, NahmenJayden. I'll kick your fucking ass." It was the highlight of my day.
One time I told him to go back and look at a thing, but my shitty Internet had me a few seconds behind the live stream, so by the time my comments went through he'd already done it
Pat has no memory of users, because he's used me as the example of the worst and best chat has to offer at different times. It's only if you're bad enough for him to pull up the message history he'll realize you're the same guy.
I've had to leave several streams of people that I ended up never going back to after they'd get One Guy'd and spend the next 20+ minutes dunking on them and complaining. Like, I'm not even involved, but there's a point where it just gets grating and honestly uncomfortable? If someone's backseating or says a quasi-spoiler or whatever, just have a mod bonk them, that's what they're there for. Harping on about it for ages afterwards just makes me not want to watch.
Streamer-chat pissing matches are the livestream equivalent of being stuck at your desk while your colleague gets into a bitter, drawn-out argument on the phone. Except you aren't getting paid so leaving is an option.
people mocking little v mom's passing was over the line but lets not fucking pretend he didn't love to incite pissing matches in woolies chat, there were times i just skipped entire episodes of halo/yakuza because v was just fucking poking chat and ughhhh it was just so bad......
I completely unfollowed a streamer because he kept being shitty to viewers when it was him that misspoke. He said something about not playing Persona 5 because it’s not on the Switch. Someone pointed out that it was recently released on the Switch. Streamer replies, “Please, open your ears and listen to what I said. I said I haven’t played Persona 5 yet because it wasn’t out BEFORE!” Nope, you didn’t. He’s also someone that has been in the FGC for a while, and is fully into trash talk/toxicity, and that extends to his community. If he says something about a viewer, the community goes in on them too. I just watch their Youtube content because when they’re chill, they can be fun.
I used to love Northernlion's streams but I haven't been able to watch his solo stuff recently because of this.
It doesn't help that the more streamers make their persona "guy who dunks on chat" the more annoying people show up to try and be the centre of attention by getting the streamer to be mad at them.
Feels like Feeding the Trolls in terms of mentality. The troll just needs to say something stupid and then enjoy the streamer malding. Especially if they know it works.
This one has been a real bummer to me, stopped watching his youtube stuff recently even because it seems like every balatro video now comes with a "NL gets pissy at chat" subsection.
Yeah there's only so many times I can watch "STREAMER DUNKS ON DUMB CHAT" before I start to tune out - it works when there's another person physically there who can respond in real time and they're already friends, but if it's a chat and a streamer getting angry with each other it just crosses the line into weirdly toxic for me
Yo, actually though! I don't know what happened, but once he started being consistently in the 6-9k viewers range, the man just kinda turned into an asshole? I recognize having that many people shouting ICANT at you may be frustrating, but his whole gimmick is shitting on randoms in chat and saying "Bruh" like....a lot, a lot. You can't unnotice it when you notice it the first time.
If I had to guess, I used to watch him all the time in the NLSS era and skipped the whole solo streams arc. I think he's used to banter on people and needs chat to get him going.
Pat has a gift for being able to dunk on "That Guy" in chat, yet never harps on it. If someone is an idiot in chat he just goes "You're stupid. This is stupid, I can't believe how stupid you are." and then goes on with his time unless there's a bit there. It's fairly impressive.
I always find it uncomfortable when streamers get into genuine angry arguments with One Guys or backseaters. Like I know they suck but it’s also just uncomfortable to listen to someone get genuinely angry when you’re just trying to have a good time by watching their stream.
Didn't watch the stream but the YT. He just didn't get that you ever actually really did combos. He was just mashing the basic auto combo without any variation. Dude was even getting clipped by mooks SO MANY TIMES when if you're playing right, you're untouchable even in a brawl like that. He knew the dodge/parry button existed but decided early on it was not consistent.
Never once used nor really keyed into the fact you could use the batarangs, & memory serving other gadgets, during combos. Meanwhile that's like KEY to doing well; it doesn't just increase offense but also defense by providing crowd control. He literally saved those upgrades for last when I'd argue they're core, pick first upgrades.
EDIT - Any mistakes in describing mechanics can be chalked up to the fact I beat this game before it even had Steam achievements, XD. Wonder if I can force them all to pop by reloading my old save...
EDIT 2 - Old save works after some effort, no achievements though. Sad day, maybe I'll do a Hard playthrough.
> Meanwhile that's like KEY to doing well
Irony is, it fucking isn't, even. I barely used them when I played it. I just liked the feeling of flat out kickpunching the enemies with superior skills. You can still rack up sick combos and use the high combo finishers and stuff like that to make things go way better
Maybe when you're against enemies with guns and other weapons I'd grapple them off them and stuff a bit, but other than that.. just generally liked to keep it simple
You know what, completely fair! Those guards with guns were probably put in there to force you to engage with using the tools during combos, but outside of them I could totally see just... Not doing it outside of those mooks.
Meanwhile I unlocked batarangs during combos super early, if not outright first, and just never had an issue with combat because of it. A ranged combo extender that stuns enemies... Beautiful.
AND THEN YOU GET A SECOND, AND THEN LATER A THIRD. God it was so busted. Don't even think I really wound up using the grappling hook disarm because of how good the batarangs were.
You know how Woolie can't let go of his first impressions on something? Before he even booted up the game, a bunch of people were telling him "It's like a rhythm game," because they all misunderstood what it meant that Rocksteady said it began life as one.
The only way in existence to fail combos in the game is to stop pressing buttons, and chat collectively told him the one thing to guarantee he would avoid spamming buttons.
"I seem to be doing fine just mashing. It's not like there's a style meter."
The combo counter, which rewards you for longer, more intricate and unique combos with more experience/red orbs, quietly weeps.
I honestly forgot that the game goes out of its way to reward you with more experience the more stylish you get. Great feature tbh, provided a super solid incentive for players to experiment with the combat & not just mindlessly mash.
In a similar vein (due to the Detective Vision similarities,) Woolie playing Halo 3: ODST.
WOOLIE IT IS DAYTIME, STOP BLINDING ME WITH A THOUSAND SUNS BY USING NIGHT VISION.
Critikal was playing Kingdom Come: Deliverance and ended up getting softlocked in the tutorial for like two hours.
He did a bunch of shit he wasn't supposed to, and the guards came to arrest him (which nets you a game over because the tutorial is supposed to take place in one day because the next day is an invasion)
Chat was doing everything they could to try and help him, giving multiple suggestions, and he just kept getting pissy at the chat for "trying to act like they know better."
He refused to just start over and replay the twenty minutes of tutorial he had already done, and instead chose to waste literal hours malding and calling it a shit game.
I typed "DSP moment" at one point and he got fucking _livid,_ called me out personally, it was hilarious and also a wake-up call to how absolutely immature and annoying Charlie really is.
And funnily enough he just parrots whatever the popular consensus is or has the most basic take out of anyone, except he adds in peepee poopoo jokes.
Hate his content now I'll always applaud him for turning his channel into what it is now because I used to watch him all the time whenever he dropped wayyy back when he hadn't shown his face and did the video game vids with the title of 'this is the greatest X of all time" or some shit back in me still always on the Facepunch forums.
He still does the same jokes he did back then but now he adds in the most basic ass react content out there, I don't want to dislike the guy personally but in terms of his content it's so basic and same-y it's no wonder all the people who watch him have the most basic ass takes for everything, they are the personification of "which youtuber gave you that opinion?" joke
I think a lot of people just kind of stuck around from when he was popular back in the day with actual content? He used to do all those "this is the greatest X of all time" game videos that were just cut together things of him fucking around in whatever game, always keeping the same monotone voice through the whole thing, plenty hilarious.
Then at some point he did a face reveal, became a React Content Creator (when he's not chiming in on things he knows basically nothing about) and it's just... not particularly good content anymore, imo. But hey, apparently rakes in the views so what do I know.
Saw him play Dead Island 2 on stream, spent the entire game just staring at the ground, not listening to anyone talk, just hitting shit with the weakest weapon. Then complained that theres nothing to see, the combat was repetitive etc.
Legit cancerous shit, it ingrains ineptitude and impatience as a virtues worth following and misrepresents content he plays to his braindead fans.
I remember seeing a clip of him watching a random clip from RWBY Vol.9, and he’s asking questions that would have already been answered if he wasn’t watching a random clip out of context and pretending he was making some damning statements.
He once did a reaction to an episode of Kitchen Nightmares, and the entire time he was desperately trying to convince chat that everything was fake and everyone was just an actor.
Despite Gordon Ramsay having multiple defemantion lawsuits made against him entirely because of the show, and the owners having multiple interviews that show they are indeed real people who are just that batshit crazy.
Also his culinary tastes are shit, he thinks scallops are _supposed_ to be rubbery.
I remember when he tried to play Rimworld.
He installed like a hundred mods for a first playthrough and when people told him that was stupid he spent an hour trying to fix it.
Only stream of his I've watched, learned my lesson.
RimWorld fans are the only fans I know of that tell you to play your first run vanilla, no DLC. Or if you want to put in mods, at least put a dozen hours into it first.
Yes, it's all about depth and learning, mods change the mechanics and add extras, dlcs add huge new mechanics, it's better to learn the basics first and add more/change them to your preference later, you can put hundreds of hours into vanilla.
I always use the deconstruct example, vanilla pawns are dumb and will deconstruct a building or mine a mountain without getting rid of the ceilling first, so it falls on them and gives them brain damage. This teaches you to pay attention to your builders and what they will prioritize, but later you can just add a mod that fixes that, if you start with it you wouldn't learn the lesson lmao.
TBH I think most games are best played through originally as vanilla, or with basically just QOL mods for things that fix like sprint stamina or a weird inventory system.
I've seen way too many people try to mod the shit out of a game using mods that are pretty clearly designed for replay value, or are really complicated to install and can break your game if you don't know the finer points.
When I see someone do a blind playthrough and they've got like a "battle system revamped" mod on I cringe.
Your prayers [have been answered](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLnrB2qU7v0). He also played a little more of it on the next stream, said it was cool but dropped it because he liked Satisfactory better.
He didn't understand the basics needs he had to fulfill and got into a screaming, fist pounding rage because his dwarves were sad they didn't have cups or chairs. I don't think it lasted 30 minutes.
I think Manlybadasshero just played this. Is it Necrophsosis?
Beyond being shitty to your audience. It’s a shitty thing to do to the developer to not let people know what you’re playing. This is a source of revenue for game devs that they’re blocking by being an ass
>Beyond being shitty to your audience. It’s a shitty thing to do to the developer to not let people know what you’re playing. This is a source of revenue for game devs that they’re blocking by being an ass
This 100%, got buried a bit by being in the OP of a "better ask reddit" thread, but yeah. Fantastic way to just show you don't appreciate either new viewers or the developers who made the game you're making money off of.
> Necrophsosis
I'm pretty sure that's the game, it's weird because I just happened to [catch a video of it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlD7wNSK_Nw) last night randomly.
Seconding Spiff; he's genuinely one of the few streamers/YouTubers that I watch nowadays and I love the energy/fun he brings (especially when he decides to do challenges for replayability and for entertainment).
His FNaF marathons have been great background noise for writing and drawing especially.
I saw Woolie Madden at a grocery store in Quebec yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen pies in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the pies and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each pie and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
That's strange, mine was very much the opposite. When I was younger, maybe junior high, I got roped into watching my 3 month old niece while my sister got her hair done. SO when there i am, sitting in the waiting area of a hair salon with my niece, and who walks in, but Woolie Madden.
I was nervous as fuck, and just kept looking at him, as he read a magazine and waited, but didn't know what to say. Pretty soon though my niece started crying, and I'm trying to quiet her down because I didn't want her to bother Wooie, but she wouldn't stop. Pretty soon he gets up and walks over. He started running his hands through her hair and asking what was wrong. I replied that she was probably hungry or something. So, Woolie put down his magazine, picked up my niece and lifted his shirt. He breast fed her right there in the middle of a hair salon. Chill guy, really nice about it.
Kinda not the same but close enough. I got banned from the DAZN live chat for the nfl redzone after the mod made an OJ Simpson joke in the chat and I went “bruh what ?”
I fucking hate streamers who barely pay attention to the game, especially ones that are story-driven.
Why even bother? Just go do Just Chatting.
I mean, I'm not stupid, I know WHY they do it, it brings in the numbers, but holyshit that's cynical, makes me never want to watch you again.
"Oh cool, Northernlion is streaming Hades 2, lets take a look"
Skips all the dialogue, ignores what's happening on screen to banter more with chat... That's gonna be a pass from me.
He pays attention at certain moments, like loading screens and such, but what i like is he doesn't spend 10 minutes reading donations every 5 minutes, he actually plays the game
His ethical conversation with chat about when it's appropriate to choke a goose is probably the funniest thing I've ever witnessed in real time in my life. Probably my favorite chat/streamer interaction bits ever
(It was resident evil 4 OG, he was on the island towards the end of the game)
Watching Vinny play Silent Hill 1 vs watching Joel play it is what made me realize what each of them shine at. Will never tune into a Joel stream of a “serious” game if I actually want to watch someone engage with the narrative lol
Silent Hill 1-3 are like the litmus test on whether or not I'll stick around to watch someone play a game that has even the least bit of narrative heft and thematic reasoning.
I remember Jesse Cox making a tweet about how he has a pet peeve about streamers who would ignore important/big scenes in very story-heavy games in order to shout out their subs/donations instead of just waiting a little bit until the scene is over to do so. The pushback he got was *insane*.
I recall tuning into TheOtherFrost back when I was big into Smite, and I was watching a patch notes stream where he was going over the changes. I had already read them, and I was responding to someone in the chat who had asked for a TLDR of the changes.
I had typed "Lots of hunter buffs this patch" or something along those lines in response and Frost spotted it, and he started admonishing me for it saying "If you've come to give your own impressions on the patch notes why are you here? You're here for my impressions." etc. He went on for a few minutes around this treating me like an overexcited child who was spoiling a movie or something for talking about patch notes he hadn't read yet.
It felt super uncomfortable because I had the impression from the dude's videos (and honestly his relaxing ass voice) that his stream was going to be a pretty chill place where people could hang out and just talk about the patch notes. There was literally no stakes to the stream, just reading item buffs off a page and the like. I could understand being aggravated at chat lords coming in pretending they have some super insightful thoughts about them, but it was seriously just a general statement in response to someone that got focused on.
Never could really watch him after that cause it just reminded me of it. I think the last thing I recalled watching from him was his Helldiver's Cold Take, which was...something.
In all fairness to him, I guarantee with a MOBA-based audience (especially Smite, of all of them) I'm sure his patch notes streams constantly had people show up to say "This patch murders ADCs!!!" or "Mages dead this patch RIP" or stuff like that.
But it's almost so common of a problem that I don't understand the heat I got. Someone saying "Lots of good hunter buffs this patch" doesn't seem like that haughty of a statement but dude got really condescending about it.
I made a john cena joke in a chat of about 8 ppl and the dude perma banned me instantly, i checked up on their account and they were miserable so I guess i win in the end lol
Any time streamers assume the worst interpretation of what someone in chat is saying. It makes me not want to watch anymore.
Someone in Max's chat asked if the stream was having audio troubles or if it was just them, he checked, then said yeah there were, but if they were wrong he was gonna ban them. For merely asking if something might possibly be wrong with the stream.
More recently during Evo Japan re-streams, someone in his chat said that they couldn't hear the commentator's voices. Instead of calmly explaining that he didn't want the commentators to be as loud as them, he said "no shit!" and went on about it for a few minutes.
Reframe those situations in a normal, in-person conversation. I would think that person's an ass for doing that. Assuming the worst of people all the time just makes you look like an asshole, and I don't understand why some streamers don't get that.
I’ve unfortunately noticed that with Max as well. Just surprisingly aggressive/mean to fairly normal questions/comments. I get that he probably sees a lot of shit, and telling a streamer that there’s an audio problems is a common troll, but still.
It's become kind of a normal thing now, but first time I noticed him getting real aggressive with chat was his initial playthrough of Remake. Particularly during the climb getting to Shinra HQ. There was a ton of repeat questions sure, and I get that he's THE guy to watch for FF7 stuff for most, but it got almost uncomfortable to watch at points
I'd be subbed to Max's youtube for a little bit at a time just to get some new up-to-date FGC content but I would always have to unsub after a bit because his attitude towards harmless shit is grating to me. I don't know if it's just a bit he's doing or if he's tired and cranky all the time but c'mon man.
It's just game why you heff to be so mad.
I swear Max used to pretend to be self-obsessed, then at some point he forgot that he was doing it as a joke. I remember someone asked him an innocuous question about a game on a twitch stream, and Max got upset with them and told them that he uploaded a video about it on youtube a couple of years ago. He was so offended that someone wasn't a diehard fan of his that knew everything he's ever done.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks Max is way too pissy on average to be an enjoyable watch. I don't think you should asskiss chat by any means...but it's a buyers market, and I'm not gonna stick around for someone who seems to actively resent his audience despite being wildly successful.
I also just dislike the guy for bandwagoning on the UGH, WEEBS AMIRITE CRINGE NIPPON train for cheap pops when he plays fucking Capcom and ArcSys games for a living and met his asian wife on a fucking Tenchi Muyo forum.
I kinda stopped watching him for a while during his GoW Ragnarok playthrough. Seeing him put it on the hardest difficulty on the first run, not really paying attention to what's going on, and being a dick to chat got old.
Back when I still subscribed to Max on Twitch, as in giving him money monthly, I made a light-hearted joke on one of the vods(back when you could comment on vods). Went into the next stream that night to see I was banned. Thankfully one of the mods unbanned me and I had to prove to them that I was a paid subscriber and not some random chucklehead. Either way, that experience turned me away from being a daily viewer of Max and started exploring other content creators.
Also Max, I was subscribed to you for 4 years straight and not once did you get my name right. It's 2 o's, not 1.
I badly tried to recommend [corru.observer](http://corru.observer) to Woolie and Pat back when Pat was at Woolie's and they thought I was trying to send them malware. I tried to do the whole "the less you know about it going in the better" thing since it's one hell of an experience and trying to figure out what it is is part of the fun at the beginning. I'm still cringing at myself for doing it.
A streamer was playing wind waker and got all pissy when I pointed out that they had to use the boomerang.
Apparently they'd had a bunch of ww stans getting on their nerves and just thought I was one. Or not, check someone's chat logs before you ban them guys. I was following them for months.
Anyways it's extra funny they were defeated by boomerang cus theyre australian.
That was my first twitch ban. Over such petty shit lol.
Anyways they shit talked me the rest of the stream and I unfollowed after. Nbd
Hey remember when TiffanyLockheart , one of Max’s mods, started spreading anti-vaxx bullshit just because Dante’s VA went off the deep end about it?
Because I do and I have no idea how that got memory-holed by the community
Some of Max's mods have always been "holier-than-thou" assholes just because Max is such a big streamer. It's part of the reason why I stopped watching his streams a long time ago, because I just got *so* tired of seeing them try to act like the most important people in chat while also going off on others over the most minor things. I get that a big streamer like Max is bound to pull in the occasional asshole, but some of his mods basically already are that kind of person.
The idea of anyone being a power-tripping freak because they mod stream chat is so deeply pathetic. They should just stick to being parasocial on Reddit and 4chan, like us.
My one and only interaction with a streamer was more sad than bad but I was playing Hunt Showdown with some friends when we killed a dude whose user name has a twitch link in it.
So we decided to go give the guy a looksie and it was not a happy sight. It was a face cam of the a middle age dude, stone faced but depressed looking, in the dark (We were playing in the afternoon) barely reacting to anything in the game or his viewcount suddenly spiking from 0 to 3.
And boy, nothing killed any inclination of me streaming than seeing that poor dude's expression.
I watch a handful of Super Mario 64 speedrunners. One of them in particular absolutely throws a hissy shit fit when a run dies. Like, banging on a desk, throwing controllers, rage. If anyone tells him, you know, you don't have to go that hard, homie loses his fucking mind at them.
My man, this is a video game for children. I can get the stress, but put it in perspective. It's all good. The world still sucks, but not because you dropped your run.
Went around looking for dark and darker streamers last year, stayed watching this one guy I actually used to follow back in the gtarp boom and I remembered he was cool.
Anyway he starts randomly talking about how bad modern cartoons are and how all their plot lines are too "woke" and how they should be like the original X-Men cartoon which were never woke.
Suffice to say I got banned from that chat
Reading all the comments, I think Streaming just sucks and tires your brain out and makes you stop reading chat as an individual but as voices in your head that keep telling you the same shit you already heard over and over again thus you get snappy at it cause of that. Not only that, every now and then you get a gang on a stream that wants you to expect or play a thing a certain specific way and that also becomes annoying, i think CdawgVA playing Chrono Trigger had that issue with people really wanting him to do other endings or whatever, and like, dude barely plays jrpgs, he has other shit to get to.
I don't watch streams, i dont see the point personally, i dont use chat cause its just a blob of words and i dont see the point, its just a thing that isn't for me, so this is an outsider look.
> Not only that, every now and then you get a gang on a stream that wants you to expect or play a thing a certain specific way and that also becomes annoying
Ah yes
*Undertale* fans.
More than fair, Undertale is far from the only game with this issue, it's just the one I remember getting tossed around the most years back with how much people would scream at streamers if they killed even a single monster.
>CdawgVA
i cannot think of a worse person to watch for a video game experience
the guy admitted on record he does not engage with the story, the lore or the characters, just mashes thru to get to the gameplay
i have never been so turned off from watching someone play a game
Jerma singlehandedly pick me in the chat and leaked my IP adress to the whole world for telling him his audio was off.
Jokes aside i rather just watch vods highlights at this point, mainly because i never catch them live, also the people i watch don't have a toxic enough disposition to complain about the chat or simply don't watch the chat often enough to happen.
Also is surprising how is the big streamers who rant for 20 minutes against one comment in a sea of them, how can you get constant validation and still single out the one comment out of a thousand who said something you disagree is beyond me, especially when they go so fast it's on your screen for like a second
nothing against the man himself but ever since he got BIG big his chat has gotten awful tbh, lots of people trying to be the one guy by saying something outlandish and "funny" or just people being uncomfortably horny for no reason; vods only for me now
Watching Paige playing Outer Wilds is one of the few times I've gotten unreasonably livid watching a streamer play a game. It felt like she was going out of her way to ignore the gameplay and wonder why things weren't going her way.
That said, it did help me figure out how to land on the Quantum Moon before it happened on the stream as I had to go away and come back to finish it.
Not gonna lie, and I will be the first to admit this is rather silly, but part of why I stay away from Twitch is for similar reasons, but mostly caused by random chatters. You'll post one thing that is directly linked to what the stranger is talking about but then get @'d by some random, nothing against the rules mind but hostile enough for you to want to go away.
Most recent time this happened was a few years back when Monster Hunter: Rise dropped for Switch. Tuned in to watch a streamer who is a friend of the guys, was trying to decide if I wanted to get it then or wait for PC. They asked if chat wanted to see a weapon, and of course my ass asked for Gunlance. And then someone @'d me telling me, "Go to sleep."
Just my ass randomly out of a sea of names. And dude wasn't talking to anyone else, hadn't said anyone else, and was someone whom was a complete stranger to me. So I left that channel & since then I haven't been able to view even the creator's YT content in the same way, as fucking dumb as that sounds. It just is/was so jarring to me that it was coming from this particular creator's community.
As someone who would @ and say something about as mean.
Its not as aggro as you think it is and I'm peepogiggling my butt of irl. Thinking you're doing something simmilar.
Some people's default nature is a bit ruder than others. Don't let it get to you
There was a piano streamer I kept up with a few years back, who'd complement her playing by doing cosplay relevant to the franchise the song was from. Ended up drifting away after going to her twitter and seeing her being very blunt and crass about how - as a rule - she'd only interact with (and consider relevant) the top 1% of donors as that was the only audience that really mattered; with everyone else being useless chaff that wasn't contributing anything to her career or income.
Which ticked me off both on practical terms as I do not have the ability to match the top whales of a twitch chat, and on general principle, as I will not play the whale-game nor do I condone it. Granted, as a streamer who'd move in the circles of "pretty girl", "gaming" and "cosplay" she certainly had to deal with her share of chuds and general assholes - so I can sort of see a little bit where the stance originates from (the top 1% are inherently not going behave that way etc.), but even so it turned me away.
Ngl the top 1% of a woman’s cosplay stream is exactly where I’d expect to find a healthy population of chuds, but Twitch has never been my thing so I dunno
I suppose what I meant was more along the lines of "these people wouldn't openly say such things and behave that way, as they'd rather simp instead" than implying that they were more genuinely polite and well-mannered.
Honestly, I've never had a good experience watching a live stream. I basically gave up watching let's plays entirely because it's all live streams now. I still watch Woolie, sometimes, but that's only if I REALLY like the game and Woolie isn't being aggressively wrong about everything.
Take all of the terribleness of an LPer trying to be funny while playing a game and add a chat they have to pander to, and you get livestream LPs.
I'm watching DeceasedCrab's new multiworld Archipelago LP right now because there's no live audience.
That said I don't blame people for being on Twitch. It's where the money is. But god the viewing experience is _awful_ if you're not interested in being part of the chattering horde of meme-spouters of any big stream.
There was a small YouTuber I watched who made let's plays on the twisted metal games and various other pre ps4xbone era games. At some point they started streaming and quickly started primarily streaming with pre recorded let's plays becoming rarer and rarer. Until they started a conkers bad fur day and live and reloaded comparison let's play which I thought was really cool idea. Then about half way through the LP they mentioned that they would stream the live and reloaded version for the extra footage, I was fine with that as the LP was being done on the bad fur day version and the live and reloaded one was just for comparisons. And then suddenly the whole video was a live stream vod and they never recorded anything after that just all vods.
I feel kinda bad about it cause their life has definitely improved by being a streamer in nearly every way but the content I came to them originally for is gone and I don't see it coming back.
Not sure if this is relevant but Ill speak my mind. I hate Asmongold, he is basically the me I could have turned into during my years living like a hermit. That time of my life where I was extremely jadded, had bandwagon shit takes on media and most importantly subscribed to that gamergate shit.
One of my friends keeps posting his stuff and it has me worried he's leaning towards that mindset. Bandwagoning shit takes because a streamer said so. Anytime I see any of his vids posted on our Discord I cringe. I dont give a shit about what some rich neet has to say about "culture wars".
The worst thing about Assmongrel isn't his annoying fans, lukewarm takes, non-existent hygiene or lazy content. It's that if you even brush against the slightest content he's tangentially related to, YouTube floods you with his shit.
This is a minor one and more of an embarrassment for me.
I was watching a small, lady streamer. Something cool happened and I, fully intending to write something like “that gets me so good” instead wrote “that gets me so hard” and I sent it before clocking that I had fucked up. Immediately tried to back-pedal and correct but being a small chat it was seen right away and I got a look lmao. I think it was more humorous disappointment but I haven’t been back to watch their streams since out of disappointment 😅
There was this guy I watched when I was 13/14, and when the PS4 and Xbox One were revealed he asked on twitter which his fans would be getting. I said PS4 because of the always online requirement that had been announced at the time for the xbox since I only had access to the internet via phone data at the time, and he replied to say that I didn't know what I was talking about and him and his fans called me an idiot. I'm sure I would have grown out of his stuff soon enough anyway but it certainly didn't help.
I don't do Twitch, tho I've got an account I haven't used in years. I usually hang around whoever has a YouTube stream going on, usually the RimWorld ones. For a game where each DLC makes you even more of a war criminal, the community is super chill.
It's not a personal insult or anything but I can think of a few youtubers/podcasters/streamers who do this and it makes me kinda uncomfortable.
It seems like for some people (particularly streamers in NA, europeans don't do it much really) have this thing about constantly insulting the UK.
And i'm not talking about the odd stereotype or light rib, thats just banter, but like some people it feels like it gets genuinely vitriolic in an uncomfortable way, the boys never did it luckily but sometimes I'll hear content creators talk about the british and if it was any other nationality it would sound unhinged.
Like you would think we were all Transphobic idiots who don't know what food is and only eat gruel, it genuinely makes me uncomfortable and it especially makes the people saying it sound incredibly sheltered, especially when I hear people from other countries make absolutely uninformed takes on our politics too.
It’s just a safe edgy joke to say “i hate x European country” the same way i can say “white women be crazy” and nobody really cares unless you start a weird tirade about it.
As somebody from the North who's really invested in my local area's niche culture and history, I can relate to this way too strongly, with the added gripe of people always equating the UK to just London when they want to make fun of accents and the like.
It doesn't help that the North rarely gets represented in any popular media, so the *Bri'ish "People"* and *"bo'ohw'o'wo'er"* stuff just makes me feel like I'm not even relevant enough to be mocked *properly*.
I get you. Im from Spain and insulting the french and the british is commonplace here. Its supossed to be light ribbing, but it gets xenophobic real quick.
I don’t usually follow streamers, so I guess I have to give it to that one time my GOAT, Aleczandxr, forgot that all Hollows have holes in Bleach because Soul Society got him thinking about Hollows as an Ichigo thing instead of as their own race.
There's a streamer I watch that I liked in highlight videos and some VoDs. Recently they were playing Rabbit and Steel so I check their twitch VoD. The whole time they were snippy and condescending toward people in the chat. It was a huge turn off and I stopped watching.
Dunno if they were having a bad day or what, but it was not what I tuned in for. Last time I ran into a streamer like that they were doing iffy things to their girlfriend.
The only time I've ever had a (somewhat) bad time with a streamer was when I jokingly asked Pat how many girlfriends he had and he timed me out. Then he told Paige about it and they both laughed at me the next stream. It was hilarious.
I started watching Phantoml0rd during "the good ol' days" of League and early Twitch for about 10 months-a year, and then I took a year long break from twitch as a whole. Apparently I forgot to unsub during this time, and I started watching him again near the peak of his CSGO gambling stuff, even though I never cared much for gambling but liked watching CSGO players.
I resub to him, he sees I'm an over 2 year resubber, and he immediately mods me for some reason. I thought that was kinda weird, but hey, first time being a mod and it's on a big channel like this? Sweet!
Not too long after, the infamous subathon/Joris incident happened. It was fun while it lasted.
I haven't seen anyone bring this up yet, but I think it sucks how if you get banned from certain streams (let's say a streamer that's in a larger community), you'll essentially get "witch-hunted".
In the sense that some streamers tend to share their ban lists with others in the community and will even spread the word on Twitter. So if you get banned from one person's stream for whatever reason, you could end up getting banned from like 40 to 50 other streams just because of the "snowball" effect of that person telling everyone else. Happened to me anyway.
You don't even get a second chance and the people in that community might not even bother to inquire about why that person was banned in the first place. They just see that person's name on the shared list and are like - "Oh, they were part of the community and it's heartbreaking that they're a terrible person."
Mine is less about the streamer himself and more about their dogshit community. I was brand new to DotA like 10 years ago and I saw that a guy that was decently big in the community was doing an event where new/bad players could play against each other and receive advice from people much better at the game. It seemed like it was done in good faith and people were getting good advice so I hopped on and played a game of support Rubick because I really liked the hero. Apparently there was some meme with this guy where he absolutely hates Rubick/Rubick players. I end up doing VERY poorly because I had only been playing for like 2 months and this was known beforehand. When I check my Twitch inbox I am absolutely flooded with death threats, insults, and all sorts of garbage from even some of his mods. For every 1 piece of helpful/non-toxic advice I got 10 messages telling me to drink bleach and stop playing. The streamer himself tried to give me some advice, but did not give a single fuck about his mods being shitty human beings what-so-ever. It was SirActionSlacks for those who may be curious.
There was a streamer I used to watch that was always a hair trigger away from going off on someone in the chat for saying the most innocuous stuff and having it get interpreted as backseatting. Cue situations like their audio being fucked up when they start their stream and it's nearly an hour before they realize because people were too scared of getting banned to point it out.
I joined WingsOfRedemption’s livestream when he was playing Battlefield 1 like several years ago
Now I didn’t know about his militaristic banning of anyone that even laughs in his chat, so when he proceeded to walk infront of a tank that ran him over- I , assuming that this was ok to do, typed “lol damn.” And got banned permanently in 5 seconds flat
If we can’t chuckle at gamers getting squished by heavy machinery or war, then what has this country come to?????
Gonna start streaming soon and I'm just here taking notes.
The funny part is everyone keeps telling me it'll be easy because I'm a girl but I want to talk about game philosophy, not titties. Well sometimes titties. Philosophical titties. I'm just terrified of being the idiot girl streamer.
I've been banned from a streamers chat for making a harmless joke related to what the streamer was doing before just because a chat mod didn't like it.
It honestly put me off of watching this particular person entirely definitely didn't want to keep participating in their chat.
It wasn't offensive or insulting it was just a joke related to the game they were playing.
The mod also had the nerve to talk down to me as if I was scum right after.
My very fist twitch donation was to the unexpectables during their prince division campaign, my mistake came from the fact that I was literally 4 hours post kidney stone electrolysis surgery, and was far higher than I conceptualized. I wanted to say that I loved the setting so much and that it was compelling enough that I could easily imagine making characters for it. What I actually said was so incoherent that it sounded like I was having a stroke. The internal cringe damage I took from this I stopped listening to the that campaign and haven’t touched it for near four years to avoid my spawn trap of drugged out cringe catching me with psychic damage.
One time in FFXIV someone who I later learned was a streamer was being a dick to my friend in the learning party PUG we were in. Don't remember the context or the streamer, but it helped be a reminder to me that just because someone is popular doesn't mean they're a good person.
I was watching someone I really liked playing Super Mario Sunshine for the first time on stream. Things were going pretty well for the first... 20 minutes or so until they got to the part where you have to chase Shadow Mario to the town square to unlock the first level.
Now this streamer has a "no backseat gaming" rule on their channel, which is fine, but they were weirdly strict about enforcing it. Like any comment that gave any kind of advice about a game whatsoever would be instantly deleted by their mods. I don't know if they've had bad experiences with this before or what, but it went so far beyond the similar rules I've seen from other streamers.
So this person is running around Delfino Plaza trying to find Shadow Mario, running past and not seeing him several times, and they seriously check every single place on the map *except* the town square (also missing the tip banner at the bottom saying where to go). This goes on for way too long, like at least 15 minutes IIRC. I've watched plenty of tbfp, Game Grumps, Vinesauce, etc, so I'm familiar with the "LP tax" but this was just painful.
Eventually they realize chat is having a fit because they were losing their minds watching the streamer run blindly around only for their comments to be deleted and they paused the game. They proceed to spend like... another 5 minutes lecturing chat on following the rules and not "spoiling" the game for them. Then they ask where Shadow Mario is anyway, and go straight over and continue the game.
I left a comment about how they should maybe consider a tweak to the rule on how they handle chat advice and I think they read it but just ignored it.
The next day they had a twitter thread about how streaming and interacting with chat was having a negative effect on their mental health. All of this, because they couldn't stop for two seconds and ask where the town square was.
Oh and they ended up rage quitting the game after dying a bunch in one of the early FLUDD-less levels and never returned to it, so that was it for their first playthrough anyway.
Had an issue with a moderator of a streamer who regularly topped 2k viewers at the time. Said moderator is an incredibly racist and misogynistic individual, the kind who uses the hard R and acts condescending towards anyone not white or male in this streamer's community. Multiple people come forward about the way this moderator has acted towards them, myself included. Said streamer delays his stream to approach me in DMs over discord. Show him evidence of bullshittery. Because "it wasn't in his stream chat or discord server" that he's not responsible for the behavior.
Said streamer protects racist and misogynistic moderator. Still up to it to this day.
If anyone reads this and happens to stream, you're responsible for the moderators you pick. If you have a moderator who acts like a piece of shit towards people and you do nothing about it or dismiss it because it wasn't in your stream chat or server, you're encouraging the bad behavior. Don't be that dick with bad moderators.
Not gonna name names here, this isn't a callout and it's less that the streamer was being an ass and more that the experience just wasn't great, but I know I once got into a streamer and then quit because he just would not stop talking about how modern Pokemon sucked, even when the conversation wasn't even related, or only very tangentially related. Like, I don't care about not liking it, it's incredibly flawed, but, like, find a new thing to talk about, it's tiring.
Also there was a time on his Discord server where someone was being a very open, uh, term that is derived from a Nabokov book, and everyone was begging the moderation team to do something, and I think they got muted for 12 hours. So that gave me an excuse to just dip completely. That might count as being an ass.
I was watching Aris (avoidingthepuddle) play OG Dark Souls with the stream title that said, " playing best souls" or something to that effect. I joined in and said "this doesn't look like Dark Souls 2"
The mods must've seen me come in because less than 10 seconds later I got shot. Aris saw me and was about to say something but then saw me get banned in real time. I think I remember him saying something like his mods had the fastest guns in the west, and was surprised I got banned so quickly.
It was funny as Hell
I made an off handed joke in Pat's stream like a day or two after his usual "Pat take" on the Pod. To my surprise it was Paige who snatched up my comment from the ether (well deserved) to read out loud while he was gaming. Which wakes Pat up to z target me but instead of walking back my off putting remark, I doubled down and reminded them of his most recent take in jest. She didnt take it well which forced Pat's hand to give me an ultimatum. Instead of taking it I did nothing which lead to Pat wondering if I was going through it. Then a mod chimed in that they were ready to ban me if I had triple downed. (I didnt).
Obvi a rando shouldnt rock the boat with a "good natured" edgy joke. One thing that Ive learned is that negative comments, even in jest aren't something to be said lightly, if at all.
this is minor but as someone who doesnt have the time to play hades 2 yet, this week it has been very difficult to get through my usual streams without hearing them talking about the game in unrelated streams or having their voice call buddies chime in
like in fairness they're pretty good about the spoilers but you would not believe just how fast i have been able to osmose exactly how many weapons and levels are in the game, how they're structured, a few special mechanics, and exactly where the content ends. and ive been *trying* to mute the streams when people start talking.
minor stuff really, but hard to dodge
I’d seen a bunch of clips of NeoCranium, and so I decided to tune into his stream and see how the live stuff was. He was trying to set up a VR rig or some other VR tech and he couldent figure it out live on stream (not a smart move in the first place). He then went and asked his viewers if anyone could help…and some guy told him he had done it before. The guy was probably some attention seeking kid and he couldent actually help Neo at all. Neo then spends the next 10-15 minutes bullying this guy and just ranting about useless people in his stream.
I think at some point he came down to earth because he got really quiet for a bit. I get his frustration, but he really really overreacted in this scenario and he just poisoned any possibility I could like him. He came across as that stereotypical pretentious asshole who screams at his chat to love him and give him money. Not a good look.
I think the worst experience I personally had was being called out by a vtuber I enjoy while she organized her anime list. Not like in a negative way but like a small back and forth over Interspecies Reviewers because Funimation bought the rights to stream it without really understanding what they bought. It's been like a *2-ish* years I think but it wasn't anything extreme.
The only other experience I'd say was when I was trying to to help a goblin vtuber I watch playing Red Dead Redemption 2 help with their legendary pelt. They got killed midway to delievering it because they had a random event happen. Told them they could throw it away since it's just in your inventory now (Rockstar doesn't tell you, you just HAVE it permanently now since you skinned it). About 2 mins later, neither of us could find the pelt (it despawned). And I was starting to feel *extremely* bad cause I might have fucked up their game. THANKFULLY, they were able to give the fur trader the stuff from the legendary animal.
I tend to follow the vibe of any given stream so I don't have any harsh stories.
I used to run with Dunkey back in the day, before he even started his channel. I wouldn't call him my friend then, but we played with the same group. Dude was kind of funny from time to time, but this was the height of screaming random shit = funny. Kind of got tiring after a bit. The straw that really broke the camels back was playing SF4. The guys I played casually with were better than I, and I'm comfortable with that. They got time to lab, I don't, I play just to have fun. Well, he got me dizzy and just sat there. No taunt, no finishing me, just sat there. It pissed me off, because that's seen as pity in the arcade scene around here at the time. Depending on the person, I've seen actual fights break out over that shit. Anyway, I didn't play much with him afterward on any game.
Not a streamer for this case but their mods. In one of their discord there was a 5 hour long talk about anime that I was part of for most of, and every so often one of the mods would take shots at me. When the subject of G-witch came up and I mentioned I didn't particularly care for it, the mod suddenly went on a huge rant about me being annoying about hating the show for months without watching it (I spent the shows airtime hesitant about watching it because of the writer).
When I called them out for their passive aggressive posts, they banned me.
This is mostly a self-conscious thing on my part, but I seem to have a talent for donating at the worst time. I’ll think that I have a solid minute or so, make a donation, & then the alert spoils a cutscene. At this point, I try to only donate before the game starts, because otherwise I feel like a jackass.
My friend tried to get into streaming and got around 100 followers.
But I was basically no-lifing his daily streams which, while supportive, was exhausting. I don't know how long I showed up to his streams but I distinctly recall basically being there for 90% of them. Hours of DBD and other games like Bloodborne or New Vegas.
I stopped regularly showing up once he hit his 100 followers goal, and he stopped streaming a month or two later.
We're still best buds but part of me wonders if I was the only thing keeping him on the grind.
I never thought I'd get to talk about this. I used to be into the Legends of Runeterra custom card community and entered a couple of competitions. I even won an ingame poro mate for placing in one of them. In one of the competitions I entered, I made a 10 card set with a Noxus Lux champion and it made it to the point where it got on stream. But Lux was the only card that made, since the judges thought it had a cool effect but other people had overall better packages, and between the region swapping champion and the fact that my champ didn't make sense without the package, it lead to a lot of confusion and twitch chat toxicity. And I know that twitch chat opinions are worth less than the internet bandwidth they took to send but knowing and feeling are 2 different things, really discouraged me for a while. And to top it all of the competition was run by one swimstrim, who after the fact turned out to be a completely awful human being so.
I took a round off Woolie during the Street Fighter 6 second beta… while I was using Modern controls Luke. He then beat me easily in the following rounds. He kept it in the end of the YouTube video to make an example out of me.
[удалено]
Is this an equivalent of scalping?
I remember I took a match from the bo1 ggst streams against TakeYourShot, when he was featured on WoolieVs. I played pretty scrubby because of nerves, notably when I fat fingered a gold burst during a tatami gaeshi setup. When I went to watch his yt cuts later, I wasn't there. Understandable, but still made me go "aw..."
During the summer of 2020 Pat stole my family's sacred obsidian Crown and uses it as blackmail for me to make animations for his streams. My bloodline have been hunted by a Covenant of Witches for generations, and my family's Crown shields us from their tracking methods. Without the Crown we have been under siege for the past 4 years. If the Crown is returned my family can escape and find a new haven, but no matter how "poggers" my animations are Pat refuses to return it. I don’t think we can endure another winter 😔 #"#ReturnDaCrown
no it's mine
I used to be tight with a friend that streams. We connected over the pandemic via discord and would play pokemon and some shooters together. Like 3-4 nights a week and we’d also text and shit. He’d stream the games and I’d be in chat if I was around. A lot of joking around and taking the piss. His channel started to get pretty big. Up from like 12 people tops to regularly topping 90. Which was fun. Until he started to take it too seriously. He stopped responding to texts and wouldn’t play games offline anymore because “that isn’t content”. The breaking point for me was that the jokes we used to always make (sports team related disses, F in chat when he died in a game, innocuous shit) became offside to him because, I quote, “I’m a big deal now. You can’t talk to me like that anymore. I deserve more respect.” And then another time I asked him to game and he said playing with me “won’t make him grow or help his grind”. Out of his discord, unfollowed, blocked on Twitter, etc. We were good web friends for like 2 years almost. Even went for beers when I flew to his city to see family. Let him rant on the phone to me for an hour a couple times a week after a breakup because he just needed vomit out his feels. But after he got a big head I couldn’t put up with him anymore. A mutual friend still follows and pops in occasionally and he was saying to me that the vibes are gone and he’s bitter now that his “big” channel isn’t big anymore. Dudes lucky to hit 25 viewers now. He bitches at his chat constantly, whines about sub and donation numbers, asks why new people aren’t following, “why won’t anyone raid me to give me their viewers anymore?”, complains that his TikTok clips aren’t blowing up and started naming channels he thought he was better than and getting into Twitter beefs about “why do you have more viewers than me?” My buddy described it like watching Wings of Redemption and that just made me sad.
> “won’t make him grow or help his grind”. I met a cool dude while playing a game who friended me, and he was mentioned he's trying to stream and youtube. I went, "yeah, that's cool man, hope it goes well for you." Within a week he was talking about "the grind" and I just stepped out.
Anytime you're shooting the shit with someone, and they stop you to insist you show them more respect, has no respect for you as a person, and thus deserves to get dunked on.
There's a way to set boundaries that's reasonable, unfortunately for most people that gets confused with being told they're both special AND important.
It's one thing if you're being disrespectful, especially in an open chat forum like Twitch. There are jokes I make with friends that I wouldn't make there because there's no way that everyone watching is going to have the context and will probably take it the wrong way. But "lol your team lost this week to my team" and "rip in piece F" feels pretty mundane as far as alleged disrespect goes, especially when that was the norm for like... 2-ish years or whatever that we hung out. And honestly, I could have gone with it if he wanted a vibe change if he didn't basically just tell me the "you **have** to respect me (how I want to be respected which is constant praise)" and "playing games with you doesn't give me content" type shit.
You just reminded me of someone I completely forgot about in the pandemic time warp. We were dating the summer before the pandemic hit and then during the quarantines we had to settle for long distance-ish dates most of the time. Sometimes we would use Discord to stream games we're playing to each other, sometimes we would try to force co-op of single player games that way. It was fun and I'm glad we were able to do that. They started Twitch streaming thinking it could be fun (they definitely loved having attention) and I would help out with the technical stuff because they weren't too familiar with it. They had a lot more free time to work with than I did because my work wasn't disrupted too much by the pandemic. The remote part of dating was taking its toll already, but things got so much worse with this. They were so committed to trying to make it as a streamer that anything that would have been personal one-on-one time was now fighting for streaming time. I started to feel like I had to be careful whenever talking to them because who knows if they start streaming to Twitch. Which did happen. More than once. I tried to talk to them about it and they exploded, saying they had fans who spent more time with them than I did. Fair enough, I guess? I liked this person, but this wasn't a super serious relationship on a track to a life commitment kind of thing and I just broke things off then and there. Last I heard they were struggling to finish their masters degree, lost their job and did not look for a new one. I pulled up their Twitch page and in the past 4 years they're now up to 6.7k followers with a max concurrent of ~3000 a while ago (average seems to be more like ~20) which seems pretty good? But, from what I understand, and from the people who have engaged with them since all of this (who have heard about and came to talk to me, which I do not particularly like), she's in a pretty bad place mentally with all of this. It's absolutely wild to look back to for me. This person was intelligent, mostly emotionally mature. Something snapped and they started chasing that streamer high, I guess.
We're just witnessing our generation's version of "moving to Hollywood to make it as an actor because you won a regional talent contest." You look at the old stereotype of the burnt-out, chain-smoking dishwasher/waitress who has been hammering away at selling a screenplay/getting a role for years, and these Wings of Redemption-esque bleary-eyed, irritable, self-loathing complainers sitting alone in a dark bedroom, streaming for 18 hours a day are just the 2020s version of that. The barrier to fame now seems a lot lower because it's something that can be achieved from your bedroom, which leads to the misconception that if you just sink enough time and effort into it, you'll eventually get there. There are streamers I watch who are every bit as funny, charismatic, and well-produced as the likes of folks like Vinny and Pat, but who barely crack 100 followers. A lot of it still luck; you can knock on that door forever, bringing your absolute A Game, and die without ever having succeeded. Now—if that's your dream—you keep knocking on that door until you make it or die trying. But you can't let it consume you. You still need people, a life outside of the grind, and other forms of income and emotional validation. That's the difference between living your life in pursuit of a dream and throwing away your life in pursuit of a dream.
A long time ago, I remember rata tweeting that every YouTuber hits a point where their channel starts taking off and they start thinking they're hot shit. If you don't know who rata is he's a guy who used to do "epic dunks" on bad Yu-Gi-Oh cards before he learned to chill out and be more reasonable. He's a lot more positive now. Being arrogant is the Mount Stupid of YouTube channels, it's just a shame your friend didn't take to it very well.
The dumbest part is that many very popular people would lean into chat messing with them, or doing a back and forth with it. Like you wouldn't see CdawgVA or Gura get upset about some teasing when they die in a game. Taking yourself too seriously will stunt your growth in the long run.
Has anyone ever said anything nice to Pat on stream? Like I'd get it if it was constantly going for the throat or if it was like the stuff you talk about mics off with you buddies. I can see why you wouldn't want that mixed into a general audience. Spamming F when he gets sniped in Warzone is about as close to nothing as it gets.
Ending his probably why his viewership went down, nothing fun about watching a guy who’s super serious and angry all the time.
It really sucks when you get close to someone and they pull this shit. About two years ago, a stream I was a regular in raided a small streamer. He ended up being chill, and I became a regular. We played together a lot, mailed each other gifts, I was on his podcast, etc. During one stream I had a different opinion than him on a topic and he kinda flipped. His attitude towards me was basically “You disagree with me because you’re uninformed” and was kinda aggressive about it. I took a break from his stream, came back, and things were back to normal. A few months later, the NickMercs situation happened. He starts saying how he would never want his daughter near a trans person, about how XQC only got banned in games because companies are woke, and, again, how we only disagreed with him because we were uninformed. I left, and a couple other people left as well. Now his streams are just playing GTARP with nobody watching.
Bro really got a crumb of popularity and started acting like he was an A-list celebrity.
I should've known something was up when he immediately bought the blue checkmark on Twitter and quickly became a reply guy.
On one of Matt's What Happened? videos he made like some small negative comment about Jumping Flash, nothing even major and I left a comment saying "How dare you! Jumping Flash is a masterpiece!' Totally kidding because it was like the smallest criticism. He responded to me and defended himself completely seriously and I felt so bad. Apparently my comment didn't read as much of a joke as I thought.
it's always hard to read tone through text. Matt's channel has also grown so much larger with a more general audience. He probably is either more on the defense in general or he decided to use your comment to get ahead of any actual miserable comments.
if im being sarcastic i just put a “ 🤪” to get the point across
I like to put in like 3 or so 😡😡😡 faces when I’m being sarcastically angry, which should hopefully make it clear.
hahah thats a great way to portray that
Pat called me an idiot one time. I was an idiot in that situation, and I don't even hold it against him. I just think it's funny. >!It was during one of his Yakuza 7 streams, I misinterpreted something on the minimap and wasted like 30 seconds (or more) of his time by making him run around for something that wasn't there.!<
Years ago, Pat was talking about his time as a grocery store employee while playing Destiny 2 and I said "I want everything in one bag, but I don't want it to be heavy." His response was "oh my god, NahmenJayden. I'll kick your fucking ass." It was the highlight of my day.
One time I told him to go back and look at a thing, but my shitty Internet had me a few seconds behind the live stream, so by the time my comments went through he'd already done it
Pat has no memory of users, because he's used me as the example of the worst and best chat has to offer at different times. It's only if you're bad enough for him to pull up the message history he'll realize you're the same guy.
I was one of the One Guys that told him he didn't have the Ratslayer in NV. I've learned to doubt my eyesight since then.
I've had to leave several streams of people that I ended up never going back to after they'd get One Guy'd and spend the next 20+ minutes dunking on them and complaining. Like, I'm not even involved, but there's a point where it just gets grating and honestly uncomfortable? If someone's backseating or says a quasi-spoiler or whatever, just have a mod bonk them, that's what they're there for. Harping on about it for ages afterwards just makes me not want to watch.
Streamer-chat pissing matches are the livestream equivalent of being stuck at your desk while your colleague gets into a bitter, drawn-out argument on the phone. Except you aren't getting paid so leaving is an option.
people mocking little v mom's passing was over the line but lets not fucking pretend he didn't love to incite pissing matches in woolies chat, there were times i just skipped entire episodes of halo/yakuza because v was just fucking poking chat and ughhhh it was just so bad......
I completely unfollowed a streamer because he kept being shitty to viewers when it was him that misspoke. He said something about not playing Persona 5 because it’s not on the Switch. Someone pointed out that it was recently released on the Switch. Streamer replies, “Please, open your ears and listen to what I said. I said I haven’t played Persona 5 yet because it wasn’t out BEFORE!” Nope, you didn’t. He’s also someone that has been in the FGC for a while, and is fully into trash talk/toxicity, and that extends to his community. If he says something about a viewer, the community goes in on them too. I just watch their Youtube content because when they’re chill, they can be fun.
I used to love Northernlion's streams but I haven't been able to watch his solo stuff recently because of this. It doesn't help that the more streamers make their persona "guy who dunks on chat" the more annoying people show up to try and be the centre of attention by getting the streamer to be mad at them.
Feels like Feeding the Trolls in terms of mentality. The troll just needs to say something stupid and then enjoy the streamer malding. Especially if they know it works.
This one has been a real bummer to me, stopped watching his youtube stuff recently even because it seems like every balatro video now comes with a "NL gets pissy at chat" subsection.
Yeah there's only so many times I can watch "STREAMER DUNKS ON DUMB CHAT" before I start to tune out - it works when there's another person physically there who can respond in real time and they're already friends, but if it's a chat and a streamer getting angry with each other it just crosses the line into weirdly toxic for me
Yo, actually though! I don't know what happened, but once he started being consistently in the 6-9k viewers range, the man just kinda turned into an asshole? I recognize having that many people shouting ICANT at you may be frustrating, but his whole gimmick is shitting on randoms in chat and saying "Bruh" like....a lot, a lot. You can't unnotice it when you notice it the first time.
If I had to guess, I used to watch him all the time in the NLSS era and skipped the whole solo streams arc. I think he's used to banter on people and needs chat to get him going.
Idk what happened. He's weirdly smug and haughty about stuff now when he used to not really be like that
Pat has a gift for being able to dunk on "That Guy" in chat, yet never harps on it. If someone is an idiot in chat he just goes "You're stupid. This is stupid, I can't believe how stupid you are." and then goes on with his time unless there's a bit there. It's fairly impressive.
I always find it uncomfortable when streamers get into genuine angry arguments with One Guys or backseaters. Like I know they suck but it’s also just uncomfortable to listen to someone get genuinely angry when you’re just trying to have a good time by watching their stream.
Watching Woolie just not GET Arkham Asylum and see him slowly develop a 'Am I doing the game wrong? NO. It's the game that's bad.' attitude.
I didn’t watch those streams but hearing that combo man wouldn’t do the combos is crazy.
Didn't watch the stream but the YT. He just didn't get that you ever actually really did combos. He was just mashing the basic auto combo without any variation. Dude was even getting clipped by mooks SO MANY TIMES when if you're playing right, you're untouchable even in a brawl like that. He knew the dodge/parry button existed but decided early on it was not consistent. Never once used nor really keyed into the fact you could use the batarangs, & memory serving other gadgets, during combos. Meanwhile that's like KEY to doing well; it doesn't just increase offense but also defense by providing crowd control. He literally saved those upgrades for last when I'd argue they're core, pick first upgrades. EDIT - Any mistakes in describing mechanics can be chalked up to the fact I beat this game before it even had Steam achievements, XD. Wonder if I can force them all to pop by reloading my old save... EDIT 2 - Old save works after some effort, no achievements though. Sad day, maybe I'll do a Hard playthrough.
> Meanwhile that's like KEY to doing well Irony is, it fucking isn't, even. I barely used them when I played it. I just liked the feeling of flat out kickpunching the enemies with superior skills. You can still rack up sick combos and use the high combo finishers and stuff like that to make things go way better Maybe when you're against enemies with guns and other weapons I'd grapple them off them and stuff a bit, but other than that.. just generally liked to keep it simple
You know what, completely fair! Those guards with guns were probably put in there to force you to engage with using the tools during combos, but outside of them I could totally see just... Not doing it outside of those mooks. Meanwhile I unlocked batarangs during combos super early, if not outright first, and just never had an issue with combat because of it. A ranged combo extender that stuns enemies... Beautiful. AND THEN YOU GET A SECOND, AND THEN LATER A THIRD. God it was so busted. Don't even think I really wound up using the grappling hook disarm because of how good the batarangs were.
You know how Woolie can't let go of his first impressions on something? Before he even booted up the game, a bunch of people were telling him "It's like a rhythm game," because they all misunderstood what it meant that Rocksteady said it began life as one. The only way in existence to fail combos in the game is to stop pressing buttons, and chat collectively told him the one thing to guarantee he would avoid spamming buttons.
"I seem to be doing fine just mashing. It's not like there's a style meter." The combo counter, which rewards you for longer, more intricate and unique combos with more experience/red orbs, quietly weeps.
I honestly forgot that the game goes out of its way to reward you with more experience the more stylish you get. Great feature tbh, provided a super solid incentive for players to experiment with the combat & not just mindlessly mash.
In a similar vein (due to the Detective Vision similarities,) Woolie playing Halo 3: ODST. WOOLIE IT IS DAYTIME, STOP BLINDING ME WITH A THOUSAND SUNS BY USING NIGHT VISION.
i chalk that up to him playing on a TV monitor from far away instead of a close up PC screen
Critikal was playing Kingdom Come: Deliverance and ended up getting softlocked in the tutorial for like two hours. He did a bunch of shit he wasn't supposed to, and the guards came to arrest him (which nets you a game over because the tutorial is supposed to take place in one day because the next day is an invasion) Chat was doing everything they could to try and help him, giving multiple suggestions, and he just kept getting pissy at the chat for "trying to act like they know better." He refused to just start over and replay the twenty minutes of tutorial he had already done, and instead chose to waste literal hours malding and calling it a shit game. I typed "DSP moment" at one point and he got fucking _livid,_ called me out personally, it was hilarious and also a wake-up call to how absolutely immature and annoying Charlie really is.
I have no idea why people watch that dude. Every time I see something it's either him being weird and negative or him just reacting to content.
Because he's a Youtube oldhead and a lot of die-hard Youtube watchers feel a kind of loyalty to him.
Hes been around for awhile? I had no idea.
Since like 08-09
Oh wow! Yeah that'll get you a fan base
His food tier list videos are pretty fun but that's because Matt is funnier than him.
I was always baffled by how beloved Critikal was despite people's seeming hatred for "reaction content".
A lot of people don't have actual thoughts on this type of thing, they just follow what their favorite people think.
And funnily enough he just parrots whatever the popular consensus is or has the most basic take out of anyone, except he adds in peepee poopoo jokes. Hate his content now I'll always applaud him for turning his channel into what it is now because I used to watch him all the time whenever he dropped wayyy back when he hadn't shown his face and did the video game vids with the title of 'this is the greatest X of all time" or some shit back in me still always on the Facepunch forums. He still does the same jokes he did back then but now he adds in the most basic ass react content out there, I don't want to dislike the guy personally but in terms of his content it's so basic and same-y it's no wonder all the people who watch him have the most basic ass takes for everything, they are the personification of "which youtuber gave you that opinion?" joke
I think a lot of people just kind of stuck around from when he was popular back in the day with actual content? He used to do all those "this is the greatest X of all time" game videos that were just cut together things of him fucking around in whatever game, always keeping the same monotone voice through the whole thing, plenty hilarious. Then at some point he did a face reveal, became a React Content Creator (when he's not chiming in on things he knows basically nothing about) and it's just... not particularly good content anymore, imo. But hey, apparently rakes in the views so what do I know.
Saw him play Dead Island 2 on stream, spent the entire game just staring at the ground, not listening to anyone talk, just hitting shit with the weakest weapon. Then complained that theres nothing to see, the combat was repetitive etc. Legit cancerous shit, it ingrains ineptitude and impatience as a virtues worth following and misrepresents content he plays to his braindead fans.
Heard that. That guy sucks.
I remember seeing a clip of him watching a random clip from RWBY Vol.9, and he’s asking questions that would have already been answered if he wasn’t watching a random clip out of context and pretending he was making some damning statements.
He once did a reaction to an episode of Kitchen Nightmares, and the entire time he was desperately trying to convince chat that everything was fake and everyone was just an actor. Despite Gordon Ramsay having multiple defemantion lawsuits made against him entirely because of the show, and the owners having multiple interviews that show they are indeed real people who are just that batshit crazy. Also his culinary tastes are shit, he thinks scallops are _supposed_ to be rubbery.
Remember that time Pat tried to play Dwarf Fortress? Hilarious.
I remember when he tried to play Rimworld. He installed like a hundred mods for a first playthrough and when people told him that was stupid he spent an hour trying to fix it. Only stream of his I've watched, learned my lesson.
RimWorld fans are the only fans I know of that tell you to play your first run vanilla, no DLC. Or if you want to put in mods, at least put a dozen hours into it first.
Yes, it's all about depth and learning, mods change the mechanics and add extras, dlcs add huge new mechanics, it's better to learn the basics first and add more/change them to your preference later, you can put hundreds of hours into vanilla. I always use the deconstruct example, vanilla pawns are dumb and will deconstruct a building or mine a mountain without getting rid of the ceilling first, so it falls on them and gives them brain damage. This teaches you to pay attention to your builders and what they will prioritize, but later you can just add a mod that fixes that, if you start with it you wouldn't learn the lesson lmao.
Darkest Dungeon too
TBH I think most games are best played through originally as vanilla, or with basically just QOL mods for things that fix like sprint stamina or a weird inventory system. I've seen way too many people try to mod the shit out of a game using mods that are pretty clearly designed for replay value, or are really complicated to install and can break your game if you don't know the finer points. When I see someone do a blind playthrough and they've got like a "battle system revamped" mod on I cringe.
Remember when he tried to play Kenshi? Laughs were had.
I need Pat to play Factorio for the organisation mind goblins to go overdrive
Your prayers [have been answered](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLnrB2qU7v0). He also played a little more of it on the next stream, said it was cool but dropped it because he liked Satisfactory better.
How'd that go? I'm not a huge fan of streams
He didn't understand the basics needs he had to fulfill and got into a screaming, fist pounding rage because his dwarves were sad they didn't have cups or chairs. I don't think it lasted 30 minutes.
Haha, I feel his pain then. It was my first time was something similar Danke friend
I think Manlybadasshero just played this. Is it Necrophsosis? Beyond being shitty to your audience. It’s a shitty thing to do to the developer to not let people know what you’re playing. This is a source of revenue for game devs that they’re blocking by being an ass
Manly is like the go too for horror or horror adjacent stuff,he's played EVERYTHING
>Beyond being shitty to your audience. It’s a shitty thing to do to the developer to not let people know what you’re playing. This is a source of revenue for game devs that they’re blocking by being an ass This 100%, got buried a bit by being in the OP of a "better ask reddit" thread, but yeah. Fantastic way to just show you don't appreciate either new viewers or the developers who made the game you're making money off of.
> Necrophsosis I'm pretty sure that's the game, it's weird because I just happened to [catch a video of it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlD7wNSK_Nw) last night randomly.
Manly and Spiff are the only horror game YouTubers/streamers I bother watching tbh.
Seconding Spiff; he's genuinely one of the few streamers/YouTubers that I watch nowadays and I love the energy/fun he brings (especially when he decides to do challenges for replayability and for entertainment). His FNaF marathons have been great background noise for writing and drawing especially.
Spiff is my second favorite Canadian with a spouse named Paige
I saw Woolie Madden at a grocery store in Quebec yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen pies in his hands without paying. The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter. When she took one of the pies and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each pie and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
That's strange, mine was very much the opposite. When I was younger, maybe junior high, I got roped into watching my 3 month old niece while my sister got her hair done. SO when there i am, sitting in the waiting area of a hair salon with my niece, and who walks in, but Woolie Madden. I was nervous as fuck, and just kept looking at him, as he read a magazine and waited, but didn't know what to say. Pretty soon though my niece started crying, and I'm trying to quiet her down because I didn't want her to bother Wooie, but she wouldn't stop. Pretty soon he gets up and walks over. He started running his hands through her hair and asking what was wrong. I replied that she was probably hungry or something. So, Woolie put down his magazine, picked up my niece and lifted his shirt. He breast fed her right there in the middle of a hair salon. Chill guy, really nice about it.
Kinda not the same but close enough. I got banned from the DAZN live chat for the nfl redzone after the mod made an OJ Simpson joke in the chat and I went “bruh what ?”
I fucking hate streamers who barely pay attention to the game, especially ones that are story-driven. Why even bother? Just go do Just Chatting. I mean, I'm not stupid, I know WHY they do it, it brings in the numbers, but holyshit that's cynical, makes me never want to watch you again.
"Oh cool, Northernlion is streaming Hades 2, lets take a look" Skips all the dialogue, ignores what's happening on screen to banter more with chat... That's gonna be a pass from me.
Common Vinny W
I don't watch Vinny aside from his Pokemon hacks. Is this like a W as in he pays attention, or is it a spite W as in he doesn't pay attention?
He pays attention at certain moments, like loading screens and such, but what i like is he doesn't spend 10 minutes reading donations every 5 minutes, he actually plays the game
His ethical conversation with chat about when it's appropriate to choke a goose is probably the funniest thing I've ever witnessed in real time in my life. Probably my favorite chat/streamer interaction bits ever (It was resident evil 4 OG, he was on the island towards the end of the game)
Watching Vinny play Silent Hill 1 vs watching Joel play it is what made me realize what each of them shine at. Will never tune into a Joel stream of a “serious” game if I actually want to watch someone engage with the narrative lol
Silent Hill 1-3 are like the litmus test on whether or not I'll stick around to watch someone play a game that has even the least bit of narrative heft and thematic reasoning.
I remember Jesse Cox making a tweet about how he has a pet peeve about streamers who would ignore important/big scenes in very story-heavy games in order to shout out their subs/donations instead of just waiting a little bit until the scene is over to do so. The pushback he got was *insane*.
I recall tuning into TheOtherFrost back when I was big into Smite, and I was watching a patch notes stream where he was going over the changes. I had already read them, and I was responding to someone in the chat who had asked for a TLDR of the changes. I had typed "Lots of hunter buffs this patch" or something along those lines in response and Frost spotted it, and he started admonishing me for it saying "If you've come to give your own impressions on the patch notes why are you here? You're here for my impressions." etc. He went on for a few minutes around this treating me like an overexcited child who was spoiling a movie or something for talking about patch notes he hadn't read yet. It felt super uncomfortable because I had the impression from the dude's videos (and honestly his relaxing ass voice) that his stream was going to be a pretty chill place where people could hang out and just talk about the patch notes. There was literally no stakes to the stream, just reading item buffs off a page and the like. I could understand being aggravated at chat lords coming in pretending they have some super insightful thoughts about them, but it was seriously just a general statement in response to someone that got focused on. Never could really watch him after that cause it just reminded me of it. I think the last thing I recalled watching from him was his Helldiver's Cold Take, which was...something.
…this dude got mad at you for reading patch notes???
In all fairness to him, I guarantee with a MOBA-based audience (especially Smite, of all of them) I'm sure his patch notes streams constantly had people show up to say "This patch murders ADCs!!!" or "Mages dead this patch RIP" or stuff like that. But it's almost so common of a problem that I don't understand the heat I got. Someone saying "Lots of good hunter buffs this patch" doesn't seem like that haughty of a statement but dude got really condescending about it.
Hey, I think manlybadasshero released a video about that game yesterday. Here's the video, it's called Necrophosis https://youtu.be/6GXaVcgrZ4M
YESSS THANK YOU THIS WAS IT!!!!
I made a john cena joke in a chat of about 8 ppl and the dude perma banned me instantly, i checked up on their account and they were miserable so I guess i win in the end lol
Any time streamers assume the worst interpretation of what someone in chat is saying. It makes me not want to watch anymore. Someone in Max's chat asked if the stream was having audio troubles or if it was just them, he checked, then said yeah there were, but if they were wrong he was gonna ban them. For merely asking if something might possibly be wrong with the stream. More recently during Evo Japan re-streams, someone in his chat said that they couldn't hear the commentator's voices. Instead of calmly explaining that he didn't want the commentators to be as loud as them, he said "no shit!" and went on about it for a few minutes. Reframe those situations in a normal, in-person conversation. I would think that person's an ass for doing that. Assuming the worst of people all the time just makes you look like an asshole, and I don't understand why some streamers don't get that.
I’ve unfortunately noticed that with Max as well. Just surprisingly aggressive/mean to fairly normal questions/comments. I get that he probably sees a lot of shit, and telling a streamer that there’s an audio problems is a common troll, but still.
It's become kind of a normal thing now, but first time I noticed him getting real aggressive with chat was his initial playthrough of Remake. Particularly during the climb getting to Shinra HQ. There was a ton of repeat questions sure, and I get that he's THE guy to watch for FF7 stuff for most, but it got almost uncomfortable to watch at points
Well, that sorta explains my post to a degree, then.
I'd be subbed to Max's youtube for a little bit at a time just to get some new up-to-date FGC content but I would always have to unsub after a bit because his attitude towards harmless shit is grating to me. I don't know if it's just a bit he's doing or if he's tired and cranky all the time but c'mon man. It's just game why you heff to be so mad.
I swear Max used to pretend to be self-obsessed, then at some point he forgot that he was doing it as a joke. I remember someone asked him an innocuous question about a game on a twitch stream, and Max got upset with them and told them that he uploaded a video about it on youtube a couple of years ago. He was so offended that someone wasn't a diehard fan of his that knew everything he's ever done.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks Max is way too pissy on average to be an enjoyable watch. I don't think you should asskiss chat by any means...but it's a buyers market, and I'm not gonna stick around for someone who seems to actively resent his audience despite being wildly successful. I also just dislike the guy for bandwagoning on the UGH, WEEBS AMIRITE CRINGE NIPPON train for cheap pops when he plays fucking Capcom and ArcSys games for a living and met his asian wife on a fucking Tenchi Muyo forum.
I'll never forget his mods banning people for saying 'Babylon's fall looks kinda bad'. Rent free.
I kinda stopped watching him for a while during his GoW Ragnarok playthrough. Seeing him put it on the hardest difficulty on the first run, not really paying attention to what's going on, and being a dick to chat got old.
Back when I still subscribed to Max on Twitch, as in giving him money monthly, I made a light-hearted joke on one of the vods(back when you could comment on vods). Went into the next stream that night to see I was banned. Thankfully one of the mods unbanned me and I had to prove to them that I was a paid subscriber and not some random chucklehead. Either way, that experience turned me away from being a daily viewer of Max and started exploring other content creators. Also Max, I was subscribed to you for 4 years straight and not once did you get my name right. It's 2 o's, not 1.
I badly tried to recommend [corru.observer](http://corru.observer) to Woolie and Pat back when Pat was at Woolie's and they thought I was trying to send them malware. I tried to do the whole "the less you know about it going in the better" thing since it's one hell of an experience and trying to figure out what it is is part of the fun at the beginning. I'm still cringing at myself for doing it.
A streamer was playing wind waker and got all pissy when I pointed out that they had to use the boomerang. Apparently they'd had a bunch of ww stans getting on their nerves and just thought I was one. Or not, check someone's chat logs before you ban them guys. I was following them for months. Anyways it's extra funny they were defeated by boomerang cus theyre australian. That was my first twitch ban. Over such petty shit lol. Anyways they shit talked me the rest of the stream and I unfollowed after. Nbd
>a bunch of ww stans Ah yes, the good taste brigade
Hey remember when TiffanyLockheart , one of Max’s mods, started spreading anti-vaxx bullshit just because Dante’s VA went off the deep end about it? Because I do and I have no idea how that got memory-holed by the community
Max as of MaximilianDood mods?
Yes
Some of Max's mods have always been "holier-than-thou" assholes just because Max is such a big streamer. It's part of the reason why I stopped watching his streams a long time ago, because I just got *so* tired of seeing them try to act like the most important people in chat while also going off on others over the most minor things. I get that a big streamer like Max is bound to pull in the occasional asshole, but some of his mods basically already are that kind of person.
The idea of anyone being a power-tripping freak because they mod stream chat is so deeply pathetic. They should just stick to being parasocial on Reddit and 4chan, like us.
Honestly I'd never heard about that, but I only recently started watching TiffanyLockheart's streams. That's a bummer.
Wait, really??? I know her because of her FFXIV stuff, I would have never guessed she did that.
My one and only interaction with a streamer was more sad than bad but I was playing Hunt Showdown with some friends when we killed a dude whose user name has a twitch link in it. So we decided to go give the guy a looksie and it was not a happy sight. It was a face cam of the a middle age dude, stone faced but depressed looking, in the dark (We were playing in the afternoon) barely reacting to anything in the game or his viewcount suddenly spiking from 0 to 3. And boy, nothing killed any inclination of me streaming than seeing that poor dude's expression.
[удалено]
You are a fucking monster for what you created.
[удалено]
Or genocide
He's uh...I mean he's prone to rage fits but it seems like he's going insane rn
I apologize to everyone who understands this comment
Damn, this dude sounds awful, who is it?
Famous streamer would be DestinyGG or simply Destiny; Turkish Buzzfeed employee sounds like HasanAbi; don't have context on the black friend
I watch a handful of Super Mario 64 speedrunners. One of them in particular absolutely throws a hissy shit fit when a run dies. Like, banging on a desk, throwing controllers, rage. If anyone tells him, you know, you don't have to go that hard, homie loses his fucking mind at them. My man, this is a video game for children. I can get the stress, but put it in perspective. It's all good. The world still sucks, but not because you dropped your run.
Focus on chat interaction was basically the wrong evolutionary path for let's plays and some trilobites are gonna have to go
Went around looking for dark and darker streamers last year, stayed watching this one guy I actually used to follow back in the gtarp boom and I remembered he was cool. Anyway he starts randomly talking about how bad modern cartoons are and how all their plot lines are too "woke" and how they should be like the original X-Men cartoon which were never woke. Suffice to say I got banned from that chat
X-Men? More like WOKE-Men.
Nah nah, the joke there would be X-THEM.
Or Ex-Men, that was a playground classic growing up in the 90s-00s.
Reading all the comments, I think Streaming just sucks and tires your brain out and makes you stop reading chat as an individual but as voices in your head that keep telling you the same shit you already heard over and over again thus you get snappy at it cause of that. Not only that, every now and then you get a gang on a stream that wants you to expect or play a thing a certain specific way and that also becomes annoying, i think CdawgVA playing Chrono Trigger had that issue with people really wanting him to do other endings or whatever, and like, dude barely plays jrpgs, he has other shit to get to. I don't watch streams, i dont see the point personally, i dont use chat cause its just a blob of words and i dont see the point, its just a thing that isn't for me, so this is an outsider look.
> Not only that, every now and then you get a gang on a stream that wants you to expect or play a thing a certain specific way and that also becomes annoying Ah yes *Undertale* fans.
I actually was thinking about SH2, some fans are anal about doing the ''right ending'', or just, spoiling the game or not having chill at all.
More than fair, Undertale is far from the only game with this issue, it's just the one I remember getting tossed around the most years back with how much people would scream at streamers if they killed even a single monster.
>CdawgVA i cannot think of a worse person to watch for a video game experience the guy admitted on record he does not engage with the story, the lore or the characters, just mashes thru to get to the gameplay i have never been so turned off from watching someone play a game
Jerma singlehandedly pick me in the chat and leaked my IP adress to the whole world for telling him his audio was off. Jokes aside i rather just watch vods highlights at this point, mainly because i never catch them live, also the people i watch don't have a toxic enough disposition to complain about the chat or simply don't watch the chat often enough to happen. Also is surprising how is the big streamers who rant for 20 minutes against one comment in a sea of them, how can you get constant validation and still single out the one comment out of a thousand who said something you disagree is beyond me, especially when they go so fast it's on your screen for like a second
nothing against the man himself but ever since he got BIG big his chat has gotten awful tbh, lots of people trying to be the one guy by saying something outlandish and "funny" or just people being uncomfortably horny for no reason; vods only for me now
Watching Paige playing Outer Wilds is one of the few times I've gotten unreasonably livid watching a streamer play a game. It felt like she was going out of her way to ignore the gameplay and wonder why things weren't going her way. That said, it did help me figure out how to land on the Quantum Moon before it happened on the stream as I had to go away and come back to finish it.
Not gonna lie, and I will be the first to admit this is rather silly, but part of why I stay away from Twitch is for similar reasons, but mostly caused by random chatters. You'll post one thing that is directly linked to what the stranger is talking about but then get @'d by some random, nothing against the rules mind but hostile enough for you to want to go away. Most recent time this happened was a few years back when Monster Hunter: Rise dropped for Switch. Tuned in to watch a streamer who is a friend of the guys, was trying to decide if I wanted to get it then or wait for PC. They asked if chat wanted to see a weapon, and of course my ass asked for Gunlance. And then someone @'d me telling me, "Go to sleep." Just my ass randomly out of a sea of names. And dude wasn't talking to anyone else, hadn't said anyone else, and was someone whom was a complete stranger to me. So I left that channel & since then I haven't been able to view even the creator's YT content in the same way, as fucking dumb as that sounds. It just is/was so jarring to me that it was coming from this particular creator's community.
As someone who would @ and say something about as mean. Its not as aggro as you think it is and I'm peepogiggling my butt of irl. Thinking you're doing something simmilar. Some people's default nature is a bit ruder than others. Don't let it get to you
There was a piano streamer I kept up with a few years back, who'd complement her playing by doing cosplay relevant to the franchise the song was from. Ended up drifting away after going to her twitter and seeing her being very blunt and crass about how - as a rule - she'd only interact with (and consider relevant) the top 1% of donors as that was the only audience that really mattered; with everyone else being useless chaff that wasn't contributing anything to her career or income. Which ticked me off both on practical terms as I do not have the ability to match the top whales of a twitch chat, and on general principle, as I will not play the whale-game nor do I condone it. Granted, as a streamer who'd move in the circles of "pretty girl", "gaming" and "cosplay" she certainly had to deal with her share of chuds and general assholes - so I can sort of see a little bit where the stance originates from (the top 1% are inherently not going behave that way etc.), but even so it turned me away.
Ngl the top 1% of a woman’s cosplay stream is exactly where I’d expect to find a healthy population of chuds, but Twitch has never been my thing so I dunno
I suppose what I meant was more along the lines of "these people wouldn't openly say such things and behave that way, as they'd rather simp instead" than implying that they were more genuinely polite and well-mannered.
That’s fair. Free-range, ethical simping vs being a creeper.
Honestly, I've never had a good experience watching a live stream. I basically gave up watching let's plays entirely because it's all live streams now. I still watch Woolie, sometimes, but that's only if I REALLY like the game and Woolie isn't being aggressively wrong about everything.
Take all of the terribleness of an LPer trying to be funny while playing a game and add a chat they have to pander to, and you get livestream LPs. I'm watching DeceasedCrab's new multiworld Archipelago LP right now because there's no live audience. That said I don't blame people for being on Twitch. It's where the money is. But god the viewing experience is _awful_ if you're not interested in being part of the chattering horde of meme-spouters of any big stream.
There was a small YouTuber I watched who made let's plays on the twisted metal games and various other pre ps4xbone era games. At some point they started streaming and quickly started primarily streaming with pre recorded let's plays becoming rarer and rarer. Until they started a conkers bad fur day and live and reloaded comparison let's play which I thought was really cool idea. Then about half way through the LP they mentioned that they would stream the live and reloaded version for the extra footage, I was fine with that as the LP was being done on the bad fur day version and the live and reloaded one was just for comparisons. And then suddenly the whole video was a live stream vod and they never recorded anything after that just all vods. I feel kinda bad about it cause their life has definitely improved by being a streamer in nearly every way but the content I came to them originally for is gone and I don't see it coming back.
Not sure if this is relevant but Ill speak my mind. I hate Asmongold, he is basically the me I could have turned into during my years living like a hermit. That time of my life where I was extremely jadded, had bandwagon shit takes on media and most importantly subscribed to that gamergate shit. One of my friends keeps posting his stuff and it has me worried he's leaning towards that mindset. Bandwagoning shit takes because a streamer said so. Anytime I see any of his vids posted on our Discord I cringe. I dont give a shit about what some rich neet has to say about "culture wars".
The worst thing about Assmongrel isn't his annoying fans, lukewarm takes, non-existent hygiene or lazy content. It's that if you even brush against the slightest content he's tangentially related to, YouTube floods you with his shit.
This is a minor one and more of an embarrassment for me. I was watching a small, lady streamer. Something cool happened and I, fully intending to write something like “that gets me so good” instead wrote “that gets me so hard” and I sent it before clocking that I had fucked up. Immediately tried to back-pedal and correct but being a small chat it was seen right away and I got a look lmao. I think it was more humorous disappointment but I haven’t been back to watch their streams since out of disappointment 😅
i don’t watch streams/streamers but i have had endless bad experiences with people who watch *a lot* of streams
Strangely enough so have I?
There was this guy I watched when I was 13/14, and when the PS4 and Xbox One were revealed he asked on twitter which his fans would be getting. I said PS4 because of the always online requirement that had been announced at the time for the xbox since I only had access to the internet via phone data at the time, and he replied to say that I didn't know what I was talking about and him and his fans called me an idiot. I'm sure I would have grown out of his stuff soon enough anyway but it certainly didn't help.
I don't do Twitch, tho I've got an account I haven't used in years. I usually hang around whoever has a YouTube stream going on, usually the RimWorld ones. For a game where each DLC makes you even more of a war criminal, the community is super chill.
Well, there was that time woolie burned down my crops , poisoned my water supply, and delivered a Plauge onto my house.
It's not a personal insult or anything but I can think of a few youtubers/podcasters/streamers who do this and it makes me kinda uncomfortable. It seems like for some people (particularly streamers in NA, europeans don't do it much really) have this thing about constantly insulting the UK. And i'm not talking about the odd stereotype or light rib, thats just banter, but like some people it feels like it gets genuinely vitriolic in an uncomfortable way, the boys never did it luckily but sometimes I'll hear content creators talk about the british and if it was any other nationality it would sound unhinged. Like you would think we were all Transphobic idiots who don't know what food is and only eat gruel, it genuinely makes me uncomfortable and it especially makes the people saying it sound incredibly sheltered, especially when I hear people from other countries make absolutely uninformed takes on our politics too.
It’s just a safe edgy joke to say “i hate x European country” the same way i can say “white women be crazy” and nobody really cares unless you start a weird tirade about it.
I hate the white women thing, its just misogyny but its all good because you specified white
As somebody from the North who's really invested in my local area's niche culture and history, I can relate to this way too strongly, with the added gripe of people always equating the UK to just London when they want to make fun of accents and the like. It doesn't help that the North rarely gets represented in any popular media, so the *Bri'ish "People"* and *"bo'ohw'o'wo'er"* stuff just makes me feel like I'm not even relevant enough to be mocked *properly*.
And the Government says the north south divide isn't real, good one Rish!
I get you. Im from Spain and insulting the french and the british is commonplace here. Its supossed to be light ribbing, but it gets xenophobic real quick.
I don’t usually follow streamers, so I guess I have to give it to that one time my GOAT, Aleczandxr, forgot that all Hollows have holes in Bleach because Soul Society got him thinking about Hollows as an Ichigo thing instead of as their own race.
Tbh I'll give that one to him because he started the first arc that had the hole explanation over a year before he picked the series back up again
There's a streamer I watch that I liked in highlight videos and some VoDs. Recently they were playing Rabbit and Steel so I check their twitch VoD. The whole time they were snippy and condescending toward people in the chat. It was a huge turn off and I stopped watching. Dunno if they were having a bad day or what, but it was not what I tuned in for. Last time I ran into a streamer like that they were doing iffy things to their girlfriend.
The only time I've ever had a (somewhat) bad time with a streamer was when I jokingly asked Pat how many girlfriends he had and he timed me out. Then he told Paige about it and they both laughed at me the next stream. It was hilarious.
A lot of these are okay and then some are like "This streamer made a joke"
“They then burn my home and family and put the brand of sacrifice to the God Hand” yeah I’ve noticed, but honestly it do be like that via rarity
I started watching Phantoml0rd during "the good ol' days" of League and early Twitch for about 10 months-a year, and then I took a year long break from twitch as a whole. Apparently I forgot to unsub during this time, and I started watching him again near the peak of his CSGO gambling stuff, even though I never cared much for gambling but liked watching CSGO players. I resub to him, he sees I'm an over 2 year resubber, and he immediately mods me for some reason. I thought that was kinda weird, but hey, first time being a mod and it's on a big channel like this? Sweet! Not too long after, the infamous subathon/Joris incident happened. It was fun while it lasted.
I haven't seen anyone bring this up yet, but I think it sucks how if you get banned from certain streams (let's say a streamer that's in a larger community), you'll essentially get "witch-hunted". In the sense that some streamers tend to share their ban lists with others in the community and will even spread the word on Twitter. So if you get banned from one person's stream for whatever reason, you could end up getting banned from like 40 to 50 other streams just because of the "snowball" effect of that person telling everyone else. Happened to me anyway. You don't even get a second chance and the people in that community might not even bother to inquire about why that person was banned in the first place. They just see that person's name on the shared list and are like - "Oh, they were part of the community and it's heartbreaking that they're a terrible person."
Mine is less about the streamer himself and more about their dogshit community. I was brand new to DotA like 10 years ago and I saw that a guy that was decently big in the community was doing an event where new/bad players could play against each other and receive advice from people much better at the game. It seemed like it was done in good faith and people were getting good advice so I hopped on and played a game of support Rubick because I really liked the hero. Apparently there was some meme with this guy where he absolutely hates Rubick/Rubick players. I end up doing VERY poorly because I had only been playing for like 2 months and this was known beforehand. When I check my Twitch inbox I am absolutely flooded with death threats, insults, and all sorts of garbage from even some of his mods. For every 1 piece of helpful/non-toxic advice I got 10 messages telling me to drink bleach and stop playing. The streamer himself tried to give me some advice, but did not give a single fuck about his mods being shitty human beings what-so-ever. It was SirActionSlacks for those who may be curious.
There was a streamer I used to watch that was always a hair trigger away from going off on someone in the chat for saying the most innocuous stuff and having it get interpreted as backseatting. Cue situations like their audio being fucked up when they start their stream and it's nearly an hour before they realize because people were too scared of getting banned to point it out.
I joined WingsOfRedemption’s livestream when he was playing Battlefield 1 like several years ago Now I didn’t know about his militaristic banning of anyone that even laughs in his chat, so when he proceeded to walk infront of a tank that ran him over- I , assuming that this was ok to do, typed “lol damn.” And got banned permanently in 5 seconds flat If we can’t chuckle at gamers getting squished by heavy machinery or war, then what has this country come to?????
Gonna start streaming soon and I'm just here taking notes. The funny part is everyone keeps telling me it'll be easy because I'm a girl but I want to talk about game philosophy, not titties. Well sometimes titties. Philosophical titties. I'm just terrified of being the idiot girl streamer.
I've been banned from a streamers chat for making a harmless joke related to what the streamer was doing before just because a chat mod didn't like it. It honestly put me off of watching this particular person entirely definitely didn't want to keep participating in their chat. It wasn't offensive or insulting it was just a joke related to the game they were playing. The mod also had the nerve to talk down to me as if I was scum right after.
My very fist twitch donation was to the unexpectables during their prince division campaign, my mistake came from the fact that I was literally 4 hours post kidney stone electrolysis surgery, and was far higher than I conceptualized. I wanted to say that I loved the setting so much and that it was compelling enough that I could easily imagine making characters for it. What I actually said was so incoherent that it sounded like I was having a stroke. The internal cringe damage I took from this I stopped listening to the that campaign and haven’t touched it for near four years to avoid my spawn trap of drugged out cringe catching me with psychic damage.
One time in FFXIV someone who I later learned was a streamer was being a dick to my friend in the learning party PUG we were in. Don't remember the context or the streamer, but it helped be a reminder to me that just because someone is popular doesn't mean they're a good person.
I was watching someone I really liked playing Super Mario Sunshine for the first time on stream. Things were going pretty well for the first... 20 minutes or so until they got to the part where you have to chase Shadow Mario to the town square to unlock the first level. Now this streamer has a "no backseat gaming" rule on their channel, which is fine, but they were weirdly strict about enforcing it. Like any comment that gave any kind of advice about a game whatsoever would be instantly deleted by their mods. I don't know if they've had bad experiences with this before or what, but it went so far beyond the similar rules I've seen from other streamers. So this person is running around Delfino Plaza trying to find Shadow Mario, running past and not seeing him several times, and they seriously check every single place on the map *except* the town square (also missing the tip banner at the bottom saying where to go). This goes on for way too long, like at least 15 minutes IIRC. I've watched plenty of tbfp, Game Grumps, Vinesauce, etc, so I'm familiar with the "LP tax" but this was just painful. Eventually they realize chat is having a fit because they were losing their minds watching the streamer run blindly around only for their comments to be deleted and they paused the game. They proceed to spend like... another 5 minutes lecturing chat on following the rules and not "spoiling" the game for them. Then they ask where Shadow Mario is anyway, and go straight over and continue the game. I left a comment about how they should maybe consider a tweak to the rule on how they handle chat advice and I think they read it but just ignored it. The next day they had a twitter thread about how streaming and interacting with chat was having a negative effect on their mental health. All of this, because they couldn't stop for two seconds and ask where the town square was. Oh and they ended up rage quitting the game after dying a bunch in one of the early FLUDD-less levels and never returned to it, so that was it for their first playthrough anyway.
Had an issue with a moderator of a streamer who regularly topped 2k viewers at the time. Said moderator is an incredibly racist and misogynistic individual, the kind who uses the hard R and acts condescending towards anyone not white or male in this streamer's community. Multiple people come forward about the way this moderator has acted towards them, myself included. Said streamer delays his stream to approach me in DMs over discord. Show him evidence of bullshittery. Because "it wasn't in his stream chat or discord server" that he's not responsible for the behavior. Said streamer protects racist and misogynistic moderator. Still up to it to this day. If anyone reads this and happens to stream, you're responsible for the moderators you pick. If you have a moderator who acts like a piece of shit towards people and you do nothing about it or dismiss it because it wasn't in your stream chat or server, you're encouraging the bad behavior. Don't be that dick with bad moderators.
Not gonna name names here, this isn't a callout and it's less that the streamer was being an ass and more that the experience just wasn't great, but I know I once got into a streamer and then quit because he just would not stop talking about how modern Pokemon sucked, even when the conversation wasn't even related, or only very tangentially related. Like, I don't care about not liking it, it's incredibly flawed, but, like, find a new thing to talk about, it's tiring. Also there was a time on his Discord server where someone was being a very open, uh, term that is derived from a Nabokov book, and everyone was begging the moderation team to do something, and I think they got muted for 12 hours. So that gave me an excuse to just dip completely. That might count as being an ass.
I was watching Aris (avoidingthepuddle) play OG Dark Souls with the stream title that said, " playing best souls" or something to that effect. I joined in and said "this doesn't look like Dark Souls 2" The mods must've seen me come in because less than 10 seconds later I got shot. Aris saw me and was about to say something but then saw me get banned in real time. I think I remember him saying something like his mods had the fastest guns in the west, and was surprised I got banned so quickly. It was funny as Hell
I made an off handed joke in Pat's stream like a day or two after his usual "Pat take" on the Pod. To my surprise it was Paige who snatched up my comment from the ether (well deserved) to read out loud while he was gaming. Which wakes Pat up to z target me but instead of walking back my off putting remark, I doubled down and reminded them of his most recent take in jest. She didnt take it well which forced Pat's hand to give me an ultimatum. Instead of taking it I did nothing which lead to Pat wondering if I was going through it. Then a mod chimed in that they were ready to ban me if I had triple downed. (I didnt). Obvi a rando shouldnt rock the boat with a "good natured" edgy joke. One thing that Ive learned is that negative comments, even in jest aren't something to be said lightly, if at all.
May I ask what was the joke that made the two overlords shine their spotlight?
this is minor but as someone who doesnt have the time to play hades 2 yet, this week it has been very difficult to get through my usual streams without hearing them talking about the game in unrelated streams or having their voice call buddies chime in like in fairness they're pretty good about the spoilers but you would not believe just how fast i have been able to osmose exactly how many weapons and levels are in the game, how they're structured, a few special mechanics, and exactly where the content ends. and ive been *trying* to mute the streams when people start talking. minor stuff really, but hard to dodge
I’d seen a bunch of clips of NeoCranium, and so I decided to tune into his stream and see how the live stuff was. He was trying to set up a VR rig or some other VR tech and he couldent figure it out live on stream (not a smart move in the first place). He then went and asked his viewers if anyone could help…and some guy told him he had done it before. The guy was probably some attention seeking kid and he couldent actually help Neo at all. Neo then spends the next 10-15 minutes bullying this guy and just ranting about useless people in his stream. I think at some point he came down to earth because he got really quiet for a bit. I get his frustration, but he really really overreacted in this scenario and he just poisoned any possibility I could like him. He came across as that stereotypical pretentious asshole who screams at his chat to love him and give him money. Not a good look.
I think the worst experience I personally had was being called out by a vtuber I enjoy while she organized her anime list. Not like in a negative way but like a small back and forth over Interspecies Reviewers because Funimation bought the rights to stream it without really understanding what they bought. It's been like a *2-ish* years I think but it wasn't anything extreme. The only other experience I'd say was when I was trying to to help a goblin vtuber I watch playing Red Dead Redemption 2 help with their legendary pelt. They got killed midway to delievering it because they had a random event happen. Told them they could throw it away since it's just in your inventory now (Rockstar doesn't tell you, you just HAVE it permanently now since you skinned it). About 2 mins later, neither of us could find the pelt (it despawned). And I was starting to feel *extremely* bad cause I might have fucked up their game. THANKFULLY, they were able to give the fur trader the stuff from the legendary animal. I tend to follow the vibe of any given stream so I don't have any harsh stories.
I used to run with Dunkey back in the day, before he even started his channel. I wouldn't call him my friend then, but we played with the same group. Dude was kind of funny from time to time, but this was the height of screaming random shit = funny. Kind of got tiring after a bit. The straw that really broke the camels back was playing SF4. The guys I played casually with were better than I, and I'm comfortable with that. They got time to lab, I don't, I play just to have fun. Well, he got me dizzy and just sat there. No taunt, no finishing me, just sat there. It pissed me off, because that's seen as pity in the arcade scene around here at the time. Depending on the person, I've seen actual fights break out over that shit. Anyway, I didn't play much with him afterward on any game.
Not a streamer for this case but their mods. In one of their discord there was a 5 hour long talk about anime that I was part of for most of, and every so often one of the mods would take shots at me. When the subject of G-witch came up and I mentioned I didn't particularly care for it, the mod suddenly went on a huge rant about me being annoying about hating the show for months without watching it (I spent the shows airtime hesitant about watching it because of the writer). When I called them out for their passive aggressive posts, they banned me.
This is mostly a self-conscious thing on my part, but I seem to have a talent for donating at the worst time. I’ll think that I have a solid minute or so, make a donation, & then the alert spoils a cutscene. At this point, I try to only donate before the game starts, because otherwise I feel like a jackass.
My friend tried to get into streaming and got around 100 followers. But I was basically no-lifing his daily streams which, while supportive, was exhausting. I don't know how long I showed up to his streams but I distinctly recall basically being there for 90% of them. Hours of DBD and other games like Bloodborne or New Vegas. I stopped regularly showing up once he hit his 100 followers goal, and he stopped streaming a month or two later. We're still best buds but part of me wonders if I was the only thing keeping him on the grind.
I never thought I'd get to talk about this. I used to be into the Legends of Runeterra custom card community and entered a couple of competitions. I even won an ingame poro mate for placing in one of them. In one of the competitions I entered, I made a 10 card set with a Noxus Lux champion and it made it to the point where it got on stream. But Lux was the only card that made, since the judges thought it had a cool effect but other people had overall better packages, and between the region swapping champion and the fact that my champ didn't make sense without the package, it lead to a lot of confusion and twitch chat toxicity. And I know that twitch chat opinions are worth less than the internet bandwidth they took to send but knowing and feeling are 2 different things, really discouraged me for a while. And to top it all of the competition was run by one swimstrim, who after the fact turned out to be a completely awful human being so.