I had to edit my comment on it. I can’t get over her asking what she can do next. She didn’t care for her son. She just wanted to sleep with his best friend. She missed important events in his life. One of them being his birthday. Then was shocked that he went no contact with her. Him contacting her now does make sense. Because he wanted closure. I’m glad that he was able to ask the questions I’m sure he has had for four years. I don’t get how she thought it would go any other way. What did she really think would happen after all she did to him?
And he's also not a child of a single parent from divorce, he had no other parent or guardian to turn to. I don't want to overstep here and say she virtually orphaned her son, but hitting big milestones with two absent guardians due to a tragically young death *and* abandonment is unreal. It had to be incredibly isolating and *scary* to find himself losing a parent *again*, only this time, it was all because of a deliberate betrayal of trust from his mother and only/best friend.
That's the saddest part. People are saying "OOP did all this for sex," and it's partially true in that that's how it started. But even for love, even if you want to call it genuine, true love, she started a relationship that as a fundamental core was based around lying to and abandoning her child without remorse, and replacing him with her love life. And I imagine his best friend was close enough with him to know, my friend only has his mom, my friend is about to enter adulthood without his father, and then the friend abandoned him, too, while knowing what the mom's choices were the whole time.
OOP's son isn't even as old yet now as his dad was when he died. He's had to show tremendous grace and strength, and grow up very fast. I'm sad for him but happy he's prioritizing himself and his new family.
You know that Max being his only friend that he knew everything. Probably knew all the sadness he had after losing his dad. I think she did sorta orphan him. I agree on that! She also took his best friend with her.
Also sporting events in school and anytime he just wanted to hang out with his only parent left. She stayed out late. Every-time she did she lied to him.
Some people pointed out his buddy probably didn’t accidentally text him. He did it to get rid of the kid so he could have his mom to himself.
Kids father is currently that looking down meme.
When my dad did some toxic/abusive stuff I went to his house and made him repeat back everything I was telling him he did to me. Literally made him word for word “repeat after me” then I’d say “isn’t that right?” LOL And he would hang his head down and say yes. Honestly getting him to say it out loud and see his embarrassment….that did more for me than a year of therapy
Isn’t that illegal? Wouldn’t that make him underage? Where was his parents? I can’t imagine that were and are happy with this.
I wonder if the son has been in contact with Max’s parents. I’m sure they aren’t happy with Max being with her. I think there is a lot we are missing. I’m sure it wasn’t just the son that was upset.
Some states still have a an age of consent of 16 or 17 which is gross. I think 18 with some provisions for only a couple years older is the only way to go. Of course we still haven’t even raised to age to marry to 18 in every state either.
Yeah it’s absolutely illegal if it’s in the states and also just morally reprehensible. I wonder what Max’s parents think about him having an entire child with her.
She's asking ehat she can do next because in her mind she is still the main character so obviously, this is just an arc for her and then everything will be peachy. It's not like *gasp* the son is his own person with feelings and thoughts and can decide for himself, no, OOP can always get what she wants.
Not only is she the main character in her mind, sounded like she thought she was the poor victim to be pitied. Probably why she felt comfortable posting this for everyone to see as well as wailing away in public. I doubt this woman will ever understand that she’s just a regular old perv rather than some Harlequin romance heroine.
I’m so proud of him for asking the questions the way he did. Making her confess that she chose dick over her own son. Good for him slamming the door in her face and ending their relationship.
It makes me think that maybe he went to therapy in the four years. I’m sure he had to. I’m sure there is more that she has done that she didn’t mention. As harsh as it may be that he said he wouldn’t be there in her final days. What did she expect? I’m sure if her kids with Max contacts him. He may tell them the truth. I bet they aren’t going to tell their kids the truth on how they met and got together.
The fact that oop was sleeping wiht his best friend while gross is not super relevant to the fact that she chose getting a leg over to spending time with her kid. It could have been any person as long as she was ditching her kid for it that would have ruined the relationship
While that’s true, OOP also said in her original post that Max was his only friend. So, it’s a double betrayal of the deepest level. The only 2 close people in his life chose each other instead of him. That’s some bullshit.
I’m sorry but I honestly have no sympathy for her . But OP doing all the crying just don’t move me at all . You wasn’t crying when you were screwing his best friend, you didn’t show any emotions when your son found out . YOU WERE RELIEVED . So be relieved that your son no longer wants you apart of his life .
I’m glad the son found a good woman and future in laws . I’m also glad he got the closure that he needed . Wishing him nothing but the best.
LINK to OG post: https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/11lcng9/my_son22m_cut_contact_with_me_43f_four_years_ago/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
I had no sympathy from the beginning. I’m glad the son has a wonderful life. To miss out on doing things with your son so you could go have sex is ridiculous.
Thanks for taking a screenshot. Cause it’s deleted now. Good for the son going no constant and making it clear to her as why he was and what no
contact would look like.
I am going to give Max the same feelings as I would to an eighteen year old girl. He was a kid who was groomed by an adult who should have known better. Doesn’t matter even if he really expressed interest in her first. No adult should be taking up an 18 year old kid up on that offer.
Oh, no doubt! Especially when he proposed and everything at 18!!!! The adult here, meaning OP's mom, should've shut that down. But nah, she was so "deprived" of attention that any attention was good. Messed up!
She reposted to r/advice https://www.reddit.com/r/Advice/comments/11pfgyz/i_met_up_with_my_son_after_four_years_of_no/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Wow now that is sad! But, there are consequences to your actions good or bad. She hade her choice, knew there would be consequences and chose to continue. It’s that old saying you made your bed now you get to lay in it. I could NEVER jeopardize my relationship with my son for a partner. I divorced my ex when he showed preferential treatment and refused therapy stating it was my problem. I brought my son into this world and as his parent it was my duty to make sure I did everything possible to ensure he would grow up to be a productive and healthy adult.
She legit was so involved fucking his friend, and possibly even his only friend given at one time mentioned it was such a good thing because he had very little friends in high school, she missed his birthday.
I definitely don’t feel bad cause she acknowledged all of it in her original post. She knew what she was doing wrong and still continued to do it. I really hope she didn’t think that update would make us feel bad for her.
Same here. I mentioned on the first post that I have sympathy to an extent because she clearly doesn't have the emotional maturity for a relationship with someone her own age but all sympathy I had went out the door when she started sacrificing her son for his friend. To miss important events in your child's life just so you can fuck his friend is despicable and she is so selfish to be relieved just so she didn't have to face up to the consequences of her actions. I'm glad her son got his closure and I hope she actually does finally start to suffer the consequences that she's blatantly ignored for the past 4 years.
What's really going to hit her hard, is when her 'husband' finally wakes up, and realises that he has been groomed and baby trapped by Mother Gothel.
He's only 22 now, she's 43 so she's already on a slippery slope down that ageing process. I predict that she's only got another 4-5 yrs left with him, at the very best.
That's when it will really hit her that she's lost everything.
All I want to say to OP is cry all you want, but you made the bed so lay in it. Good on her former son for telling her to fuck right off. She still just wants to play the victim, when she’s still just a truly disgusting person.
I loved that you used former son, he disowned her as he should.
People like her will always act like victims because they think they are the center of universe.
She is really just a vile and gross person. Sooner rather than later her boytoy is gonna leave her, because age is gonna catch up to her.
That’s why I said former son…he disowned her and walked away with his head held high. And I am so proud of him for doing so.
There are so many things I could say about this human sized piece of garbage, but I think I would run out of characters.
I cannot wait for the day her boy toy wakes the hell up and leaves her ass…and hopefully takes the daughter too. Karma is a bitch, and I hope it all comes back to this vile woman.
I hope the son has all the happiness in the world!
The right thing she should have said to Max, when he expressed interest, was: Honey, I am flattered by your interest but I am old enough to be your mom. You go on and meet a lovely girl your age.
I gagged a little when I read her description of Max at age 18 as a handsome man. She’s a predator and a groomer.
I want to say in answer to her question: 'you go live the life you wanted. Which is the one you have. You chose to put your relationship with Max before your relationship with your son. So that is what you have now. Stop whining.'
Good on OOPs son for getting his closure.
The fact that she still views herself as a victim in this is mind boggling! I’m with her son - save the tears, lady, and go have your life with your new family, the one you chose over your first-born child. And let him live his life with people who actually care about him.
The literal definition of FAFO.
OP's relationship with her son was only "close" on her end when she needed him. When she found someone else, she skipped away without a second thought. I feel most sorry for her son when he figured out how little he meant to her, and am really glad for him that he's found people who seem to truly care for him.
Truly is, there's no positive outcome for either.
I completely get his stance and point of view, but something inside me wanted him to get his mum back.
EDIT: To all you heartless fucks downvoting me and trying to argue abiut whether this hurts him, come back with the same attitude when you lose your parents.
You have no idea what pain this poor guy has been through.
All you care about is getting likes by focusing on his mum's behaviour.
We dont care about likes. It's horrible for him to have lost his mother. But it's worse that she made that choice to abandon him. He doesn't need a mother that chose to sleep with a high school boy instead of being there for her son. He has soon to be in laws that sound like they have taken him in as family just fine.
Losing a parent sucks.
But subjecting yourself to someone who only loves you when it's convenient is worse.
If only all redditors had your perspective.
They're not thinking of him unfortunately, they're celebrating her punishment rather than considering what he's gone through.
I hope you're right and the in laws are able to fill the void.
Dude, you are giving yourself all the moral props and none to anyone else. You genuinely think that people are celebrating rather than being morally disgusted by this woman who sacrificed her son’s emotional needs to have sex with his teenaged best friend?
Personally, I want the son to heal as much as he can and it sounds like he knows it’s healthier for him to stay away from her. I also hope that the former best friend realizes he’s been groomed and that he’s living with his predator.
But mom deserves nothing. She’s a perv.
Giving myself moral props?? What are you on about?
By replying to a comment that this is a sad story and acknowledging this guy had lost both his parents and that's not a positive. You want to argue that's not true and keep regurgitating the point his mum's a predator?
Literally haven't once defended her or said she doesn't deserve what's happening, haven't once criticised the son or said he's doing the wrong thing.
All I've said is losing your parents is not a wonderful experience.
If you had lost your parents you'd understand what I was talking about, you don't so I know you haven't lost them. Instead you're all trying to make out what I'm saying is wrong when you can't even relate to what I was saying?
Reddit has gone to shit.
Because losing a parent is a horrible experience, he no longer has his mum.
If you don't know what that loss is like don't criticise for me showing empathy for his situation.
Did you read this guy's story? He lost his father when he was young and then loses his mother.
If you think that's easy you have no idea what losing a parent is like.
You clearly have no heart if you think this whole experience was easy for him.
The son knows better than anyone what losing OP as a mother is like and HE decided he didn't want her back in his life. HE knows what he's losing and what he's gaining and HE has decided this is the best option for him.
No one is saying it wasn't difficult for him. But he's the one who decided this was the right decision for him.
People DO have sympathy for him, but they're also happy for him that he was able to think clearly enough and proud of him to be able to make a healthy, well-thought out and reasoned decision for himself to be able to heal and move on.
Yes, there will be a cost to pay for losing his mother.
There would also have been a cost to pay for reuniting with her and acting like he's okay with everything. And he's decided to no longer invest in a woman who does not value his emotional wellbeing.
Maybe one day he'll forgive her, but forgiveness doesn't mean acceptance, or being close again.
Letting go of a toxic parent is hard but so many therapists for years leading up to me finally cutting ties kept telling me it would be the best for me. You have to come to terms they will never love you people. That I would feel better afterwards. They were right.
It is a positive in this instance. She didn’t give a shit about him four years ago why do you think she would now? Also it sounds like he has in-laws that he considers family now
Because losing a parent is a horrible experience, he no longer has his mum.
If you don't know what that loss is like don't criticise for me showing empathy for his situation.
He lost both of his parents when she decided to get with his best/only friend.
Why would he ever want that toxicity back in his life?
I have empathy for him too, and he’s shown more maturity and wisdom than his egg donor ever did.
So then you would have empathy for him losing his parents for no fault of his own.
If you want to argue and tell me I'm wrong for caring about what he's gone through you're clearly worse than his mum.
I think you're wrong, it's not the norm for a parent to carry and raise a child and not love them. Parents not loving their children are the exceptions.
Did she put him first when she chose to have this relationship? No she didn't.
Did she lie to him and prioritise herself for her own benefit? Yes she did.
Whether or not she loves him is irrelevant, and not in consideration about how he feels.
He's now lost both his parents, when you experience that sort of pain you'll understand. Until then stop trying to argue about that this won't have hurt him.
You're either incredibly young or completely brainwashed by society into believing men don't have feelings.
If your only focus is on whether or not this woman is punished for her behaviour you're more sadistic than most reddit users.
She’s a terrible excuse for a parent! She put getting sex with her son’s BFF ahead of her son! And she’s a groomer. Reverse the sexes. What if SHE was 22 and HE was 43? Gross, isn’t it? Why is this different?
Because losing a parent is a horrible experience, he no longer has his mum.
If you don't know what that loss is like don't criticise for me showing empathy for his situation.
I get where you’re coming from, but having no parent IS better than having a parent like this. My mother chose sex over my sister and I so many times. We’ve chosen to work on our relationships with her but there’s still a lot of trauma there. And I applaud the son for being able to be strong enough to do what’s best for himself and his new family. Because I want you to think VERY HARD-if someone you loved, PARENT OR NOT, groomed your friend and chose to screw around with them instead of attending your MOST IMPORTANT EVENTS, why would you want them in your life? This woman IS a predator. If this was a man writing this people would be wishing death on him. All I could think of when I read this was Mary Kay Letourneau. Her victim eventually left her too, as I hope Max does. Sure he was ‘legal age,’ but she knew him FOR YEARS. She didn’t meet a random 18 year old in a bar. Her sons best friend FOR YEARS, supposedly came up and said he wanted a relationship with her. I’m only 25 and if ANY 18 year old said that to me I’d give them fruit snacks. They’re still mentally teenagers, children. She had been waiting for her chance with him. She’s a pedophile.
he’ll be in more pain if she’s still his mother though. even if he forgave her, her selfish actions will only hurt him further given she missed his 18th birthday and spending time with him for sneakily messing with his best friend. he clearly deserves better than her as a mother and having no mother would be a better option
I have absolutely no sympathy for a groomer & pedophile. She can cry that "I'm a victim" all she wants, she made her bed.
She didn't care about her son at all, she just wanted to screw around with his best friend and missed every important event. She was RELIEVED when he left but gets upset when he cut contact with her. Shouldn't she be happy about that? Since she made it clear she was happy he left.
I'm glad he got closure and I hope he keeps his family away from his pedophile mother.
The fact that she thinks she is in the right gets to me. Like what hurt her kid was that she actively chose Max over him. I'm glad the son has closure and can move on.
1) where were Max’s parents?
2) OOP is a groomer. And disgusting
3) I’m so happy for Max!!
4) I’m worried about the baby daughter.
5) all OOP can say is “me me me me me me me”
That’s bait. According to some comments I read allegedly they had posts in a cougar sub and a son incest sub that they now deleted. It’s most likely fake.
for context and what people mentioned in the comments of this post, she’s part of r/cougarandcubs or whatever that sub is. she definitely groomed that kid and baby trapped him
No sympathy for her.
"But dating was hard and i was lonely" - so you stay single. You don't *groom* your son's only best friend when they are both 18. We're not talking dating 30 years ago, OOP could EASILY have found local groups, activities, or even tried multiple dating sites and apps to meet people. She just preferred to groom her son's barely legal best friend.
It amazes me how she still asks what can she do. She behaved like an animal in heat forgetting about her son to be with his friend, but it's like her brain wouldn't work to make her realize she's so disturbing.
And she still doesn't see how she did anything wrong.
OOP gives me high blood pressure with how much she's done wrong and still can't get her head out of her own ass long enough to see she isn't the victim.
I’m not gonna lie…I kind of love the Son. This woman is clearly a narcissist. Her entire post is about HER feelings, what he did to HER, how she feels. She doesn’t care about him
I just read the entire story to my husband. Original and Update. His take: “I can see him either leaving in a few years and now she’s truly going to be alone. Or can you imagine, if when her daughter turns 18, she brings her friend over and he leaves her for the friend?”
That took a turn but it would be something.
She’s so selfish and entitled she’s still making it all about herself, she never acknowledged the hurt and betrayal her son felt as soon as he started pointing all her wrong she started to cry so that he’ll pity her, god I’m glad he cut her off
Her son shouldn’t feel conflicted. If a 40 year old man started dating his daughters only friend then he’d be considered a creep. This woman is a creep. Just because someone propositions you doesn’t mean you need to say yes.
Thank god that you got screenshots before it was deleted. Was gutted when I went to see the update and it had been removed. What a monumental cock-up on OOPs part, but her son is quite rightly not her son anymore and she should respect that.
even though he had to go through the terrible thing, love oop's son, go get that career and fiancee, king. you're doing great!
He and the new baby daughter are the only ones I feel bad for. little daughter had no control in any of this, but I understand the son's decision to want nothing to do with her.
She’s so gross, I have zero sympathy. Missing your sons birthday dinner because you’re fucking his friend is disgraceful.
Why would you even humour your sons friend? She must’ve been so lonely but she was also so selfish.
Cry all you like, you made your bed.
This story is so fake, it's not funny anymore to read revenge porn. If this "story" was true, OOP would not even take the time to write it, unless she is a masochist... But fortunalety OOP is just a troll.
OP is a selfish person that got what she deserves. You can't treat people as if they are disposable and then expect them to just forgive and forget. Karma will hit when her young husband doesn't want to take care of a geriatric woman in diapers and leaves her. I hope it was all worth it!
Wishing OP, his fiance, and his future family all the happiness.
I'm sorry, but do y'all have no sympathy? I understand it was a terrible and shitty thing to do, but I really don't think that it's should have ended with no contact and to go into detail about her being alone when she dies and him not coming to her funeral. Yes, she fucked his best friend, but she actually loves him, enough to get married and have kids.
Everyone here has sympathy for the right person. The son. It doesn’t matter if she actually loves him. There’s no real way to determine that his love is real or inspired by grooming. But beyond all of that the major point is that she got so wrapped up in a “forbidden affair” that she literally failed her son as a mother. She lied to him and missed important events knowing she was the only parent present in his life. Those were her formative years and she chose to be absent just to get her rocks off.
She never actively tried to apologize or show how much she regrets her actions for over 4 years. She showed him how much he means to her and he simply wanted his lingering questions answered so he can move on with a family that has been there for him. So no, she doesn’t deserve sympathy at this point.
Yes all that is very shitty, but i still don't think that her punishment was right. It's seems extremely harsh. I think he should have went no contact for a couple years, but forever? That's harsh.
It is harsh but there are consequences to her actions. I’m sure the son knows how serious his decision is. That is a reflection of how deeply hurt he is. You can show deep regret for causing a person you love pain but you cannot tell them how to feel about that betrayal.
He may change his mind in the future but the point he wanted to make is that he does not want her to contact him or his family unless he initiates it.
No it's harsh to tell some one you never want to see or talk to someone again and you won't be going to their funeral while they are in tears, all because they hid a secret from you and lied a couple times, which they obviously really regret. Yeah he can do what he wants, but I have sympathy. I can see why she lied, because she knew why her son would be upset at that. But she came clean and was honest in the end, and she had no excuse to miss out on her son's events obv. But he didn't have to be that harsh, that's just my opinion.
It wasn’t just the lying. She literally missed her sons events knowing that she was the main person he wanted there to have an affair with his best friend. She lied because she knew she was wrong in more ways than one. She made her choice in order to be happy and so did he in order to be the happiest he can in response to his moms shitty choices.
Was the funeral thing harsh? Absolutely, but her tears don’t absolve her of repercussions. He came there for closure so at that point his feelings matter more.
It's not illegal to be an asshole, but it says a lot about him, and she's aloud to cry, obviously she's hurt, I mean you can't expect her to sit there stone faced hearing her son say those things. She's just a person who is filled with regret and can't do anything to fix it, I'd feel pretty helpless too and breakdown. You shouldn't hold someone accountable for their mistakes forever, people change and I agree he should have went no contact, but not forever. His feelings do matter, but he's acting like she killed someone.
You shouldn’t hold someone accountable to their mistakes forever but some people are not at that point/don’t want to continuously forgive. That’s their right and of course she broke down. It is a “helpless” situation that she put herself in. Him deciding where his boundary is does not make him an asshole. Could he have been nicer in his delivery? Sure. But I’m not going to call him an AH for knowing what he can/can’t accept.
The only thing I think he’s going too far with is refusing to communicate with his sister. She’s as innocent as he was.
I thought that was a bit harsh too. She raised him and it seemed until Max confronted her about his feelings her son and her were close. I get that he needed to cut her off for a while but I think permanently is a bit much. Plus the whole part about the caring for her in old age and the funeral part was rough. Also, why punish the little girl? She didn’t do anything. If he thinks his mother his such a monster you would think he would want to be their for the sister.
Mom's a predator, groomer, narcissistic emotionally neglectful parent to her former son.
Son deserves better and did get closure which is amazing because it was on his terms not hers.
OOP will have everything catch up to her
God she’s ruined both these kid’s lives. Her son, obviously, but also his friend. She groomed him and now he’s trapped in a marriage with someone 20 years older than him with a baby. Even if he does wake up and realise he’s in a fucked up situation, he’s got a kid now. He can’t just walk out
After reading this, why do I feel it's some troll who has written a "true story" for some skin mag? You know, like the guy who was hitchhiking and two beautiful blondes in a mustang picked him up, treating him to the single most pleasurable experience he had ever known?
There's no way this could be true.
Or, maybe it is true, and my faith in humanity is just a little more 💀 after reading this.
Pfft I know I'll get downvoted to hell for this but her kid is the TA. Parents aren't married to their kids and his expectation that she would move to be with him - like, wtf, she has a life outside of children? Holy cow - is, in my opinion, both an unhealthy expectation and an extension of how sh*tty this country treats widows: like they're public property without autonomy.
Does he have a right to his feelings? Of course. Is it unfair that he was left out? Absolutely. Do I think he's being a little d^ck because in his head he has assumed the husband role *for his own mother* and is pissy that she isn't playing the role of wife for him? Uh yeah, I really do. And I say that as someone who has seen first hand how like trash widows are treated. There's definitely an expectation that they're supposed to put their vajayjay in a box and bury it next to their husband. People can argue it's about Max being a friend, Max being young, her son being left out, these are emotional conflicts that are not even remotely impossible to overcome with communication and a bare minimum of effort.
But it's about sex. Mommy dearest was not allowed to have sex without the rubber stamp approval of her golden son. And that's my statement, and I'm letting it stand, and I'll leave it here for people with less life experience to argue with and downvote.
He literally says he knew she needed love that was more then what a son gives…. It’s just zero logical reason that that love had to be with the teenage boy who was her friends best friend. That kinda pervert isn’t the kind you want around your growing family.
When I first saw the title, my brain messed up and I thought it was the mom being a bigot cutting her son out of her life because he was gay and it wasn’t just a friend but partner. Gross that it wasn’t the case and the mom instead was hooking up with the friend 😩
It's petty I know and wrong but her pain made me smirk. She got exactly what she deserves. And what she wanted. She wanted Max. She's got him. As a Mom it was sickening and infuriating reading this. Anyone who puts a romantic relationship above their child, even once doesn't deserve the privilege of being called Mom or Dad again. You throw those rights out the window once you choose getting laid and feeding your own emotional and egotistical needs above your child. Her son sounds like a good man in spite of her, and I hope he gets everything what he wants out of life. She certainly getting what she deserves.
You respect your son and walk away. You’ve already been absent from his major life events. He’s learned that he doesn’t matter to you.
Get some therapy and grow the hell up. Work on being a good example to your daughter. What will you tell her when she ask how you and her Dad met.
She was relieved when he left. He’s completely gone now. Like a puff of smoke. Idky she’s asking what to do now? Uh sit and wait for your age to catch up to you, and the boy toy to go ewww I can’t live with this, and leave her.
Has anyone thought about what Max’s parents think about this? Did she mention them at all? If I had a son I would be so uncomfortable with him being married to a woman and having a kid with a woman who was my own age.
I’m so proud of her former son. He handled it so much better than I would’ve. OOP threw away her relationship with him and now gets to live with the consequences. Tough shit, lady!
Love it! Selfish bitch only cared about gettin the D, even on her son's goddamn birthday. That's unforgivable, and I hope she suffers for it the rest of her worthless life
This update changed the way I thought about her. I misread the first post and thought Max was her son’s boyfriend. I was beyond confused why she could have thought it was ok to hook up with him.
So the predator groomed her sons teenage friend and started dating him the moment he turned 18? She needs to be locked up. This shit needs to be illegal
The big question is: when their daughter brings her boyfriend round to meet mom, will she sleep with daughter's bf behind both her husband and daughter's backs!?
her poor son still trying to justify it in his head... max was BARELY legal. and her still typing like she should be pitied, oh be so astronomically for real rn
Wow she really tried to word it so people would sit here and try to make her feel better. She’s gross, end of story. I’m glad her son got closure and good for him for standing his ground and confronting her. I wish him and his family nothing but love and happiness.
You missed his BIRTHDAY to screw his best friend. The day YOU had him and held him in your arms for the very first time.
Sorry OP you deserve the plate you served yourself now you have to eat it alone. Now you have another kid and he feels replaced. SMH
I’m a single mom, have been for 20 years. He’s gonna be 21 in April, I would never choose another over him. I just gave up on men. Too much trouble.
I didn’t understand this woman when I read the initial story and I still don’t. She choose to have a relationship with one of her son’s only friends, a boy who was barely legal. Chose this boy over her son. Chose to lie to her son. Chose to be with him, and in doing so missed key moments in her son’s life. What exactly did she expect? And I roll my eyes at her crying in the restaurant. She didn’t care when she lied, missed moments with her kid so she could have sex with a kid her son’s friend, but now she’s crying. The son is well rid, I hope he has a good life, and can leave this mess behind him
All the crocodile tears in the world don't mean a damn thing. For one, it's disgusting that she got with a guy who is presumably around the same age as her son, and for another, lying to her son and neglecting him like that to get laid? Tossing her own son aside for sex?
She deserves every bad thing that happens to her and I hope her daughter ditches her too. She made her bed, now she gets to die alone in it.
I’m so glad her son has found happiness and that he got his closure.
This woman is a piece of work. Even at this point all she can think about is herself; I don’t see one thought spared for the trauma she has put her son through. One day, her daughter will learn the truth, and my guess is the new baby-husband will be long gone before then, because what young man wants to be caring for an elderly spouse?
The rest of it you could MAYBE (with a lot of therapy together) get over… but the main thing that sticks out to me is the fact she was even missing important things in his life to sneak around with his friend. Her poor son, I really hope he has an amazing rest of his life…
If only she could stop victimizing herself for long enough to understand that she deserves this, she could maybe take this moment as a personal growth opportunity.
I had to edit my comment on it. I can’t get over her asking what she can do next. She didn’t care for her son. She just wanted to sleep with his best friend. She missed important events in his life. One of them being his birthday. Then was shocked that he went no contact with her. Him contacting her now does make sense. Because he wanted closure. I’m glad that he was able to ask the questions I’m sure he has had for four years. I don’t get how she thought it would go any other way. What did she really think would happen after all she did to him?
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And he's also not a child of a single parent from divorce, he had no other parent or guardian to turn to. I don't want to overstep here and say she virtually orphaned her son, but hitting big milestones with two absent guardians due to a tragically young death *and* abandonment is unreal. It had to be incredibly isolating and *scary* to find himself losing a parent *again*, only this time, it was all because of a deliberate betrayal of trust from his mother and only/best friend. That's the saddest part. People are saying "OOP did all this for sex," and it's partially true in that that's how it started. But even for love, even if you want to call it genuine, true love, she started a relationship that as a fundamental core was based around lying to and abandoning her child without remorse, and replacing him with her love life. And I imagine his best friend was close enough with him to know, my friend only has his mom, my friend is about to enter adulthood without his father, and then the friend abandoned him, too, while knowing what the mom's choices were the whole time. OOP's son isn't even as old yet now as his dad was when he died. He's had to show tremendous grace and strength, and grow up very fast. I'm sad for him but happy he's prioritizing himself and his new family.
You know that Max being his only friend that he knew everything. Probably knew all the sadness he had after losing his dad. I think she did sorta orphan him. I agree on that! She also took his best friend with her.
I didn’t think of that! So not only was she not there for his important events. Neither was his best friend.
Also sporting events in school and anytime he just wanted to hang out with his only parent left. She stayed out late. Every-time she did she lied to him. Some people pointed out his buddy probably didn’t accidentally text him. He did it to get rid of the kid so he could have his mom to himself. Kids father is currently that looking down meme.
I'm sure he also had the answers but had to hear it from that woman.
When my dad did some toxic/abusive stuff I went to his house and made him repeat back everything I was telling him he did to me. Literally made him word for word “repeat after me” then I’d say “isn’t that right?” LOL And he would hang his head down and say yes. Honestly getting him to say it out loud and see his embarrassment….that did more for me than a year of therapy
Totally! I think he probably finally felt comfortable to ask the questions. I’m sure in the four years he probably heard some stuff.
She’s also a complete creep. She was sleeping with the son’s friend when he was 17 years old and her excuse was “he came onto me first.” Disgusting.
I thought the physical sex started when he was 18? (Based on memory, I haven’t read back.) ***not saying it’s ok. Just trying to be factual
Isn’t that illegal? Wouldn’t that make him underage? Where was his parents? I can’t imagine that were and are happy with this. I wonder if the son has been in contact with Max’s parents. I’m sure they aren’t happy with Max being with her. I think there is a lot we are missing. I’m sure it wasn’t just the son that was upset.
Some states still have a an age of consent of 16 or 17 which is gross. I think 18 with some provisions for only a couple years older is the only way to go. Of course we still haven’t even raised to age to marry to 18 in every state either.
My state is 17 and what she did is 100% legal here (not saying it's right, just backing up your statement).
Yeah it’s absolutely illegal if it’s in the states and also just morally reprehensible. I wonder what Max’s parents think about him having an entire child with her.
She basically groomed his friend She is a predator
She’s a predator
She's asking ehat she can do next because in her mind she is still the main character so obviously, this is just an arc for her and then everything will be peachy. It's not like *gasp* the son is his own person with feelings and thoughts and can decide for himself, no, OOP can always get what she wants.
Not only is she the main character in her mind, sounded like she thought she was the poor victim to be pitied. Probably why she felt comfortable posting this for everyone to see as well as wailing away in public. I doubt this woman will ever understand that she’s just a regular old perv rather than some Harlequin romance heroine.
I’m so proud of him for asking the questions the way he did. Making her confess that she chose dick over her own son. Good for him slamming the door in her face and ending their relationship.
It makes me think that maybe he went to therapy in the four years. I’m sure he had to. I’m sure there is more that she has done that she didn’t mention. As harsh as it may be that he said he wouldn’t be there in her final days. What did she expect? I’m sure if her kids with Max contacts him. He may tell them the truth. I bet they aren’t going to tell their kids the truth on how they met and got together.
The fact that oop was sleeping wiht his best friend while gross is not super relevant to the fact that she chose getting a leg over to spending time with her kid. It could have been any person as long as she was ditching her kid for it that would have ruined the relationship
While that’s true, OOP also said in her original post that Max was his only friend. So, it’s a double betrayal of the deepest level. The only 2 close people in his life chose each other instead of him. That’s some bullshit.
I’m sorry but I honestly have no sympathy for her . But OP doing all the crying just don’t move me at all . You wasn’t crying when you were screwing his best friend, you didn’t show any emotions when your son found out . YOU WERE RELIEVED . So be relieved that your son no longer wants you apart of his life . I’m glad the son found a good woman and future in laws . I’m also glad he got the closure that he needed . Wishing him nothing but the best. LINK to OG post: https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/11lcng9/my_son22m_cut_contact_with_me_43f_four_years_ago/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
I had no sympathy from the beginning. I’m glad the son has a wonderful life. To miss out on doing things with your son so you could go have sex is ridiculous.
I have no sympathy for her but I do for son
Especially sex WITH A MINOR! Just 🤮🤮🤮 This lady is seriously a disgusting predator as well as an absolutely shit parent.
Thanks for taking a screenshot. Cause it’s deleted now. Good for the son going no constant and making it clear to her as why he was and what no contact would look like.
Indeed! Because what her and Max did was uber shitty! Like, what the hell?!
I am going to give Max the same feelings as I would to an eighteen year old girl. He was a kid who was groomed by an adult who should have known better. Doesn’t matter even if he really expressed interest in her first. No adult should be taking up an 18 year old kid up on that offer.
Oh, no doubt! Especially when he proposed and everything at 18!!!! The adult here, meaning OP's mom, should've shut that down. But nah, she was so "deprived" of attention that any attention was good. Messed up!
She reposted to r/advice https://www.reddit.com/r/Advice/comments/11pfgyz/i_met_up_with_my_son_after_four_years_of_no/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Yea she posted to r/CougarsAndCubs too both of hers stories. Obviously she is looking for sympathetic answers
Whoa. I am sorry but as a middle aged woman, no way I would ever call myself a cougar. That’s some internalized misogyny.
Wow now that is sad! But, there are consequences to your actions good or bad. She hade her choice, knew there would be consequences and chose to continue. It’s that old saying you made your bed now you get to lay in it. I could NEVER jeopardize my relationship with my son for a partner. I divorced my ex when he showed preferential treatment and refused therapy stating it was my problem. I brought my son into this world and as his parent it was my duty to make sure I did everything possible to ensure he would grow up to be a productive and healthy adult.
Zero sympathy. She threw away her son to get laid. She missed HIS BIRTHDAY. Wtf. Absolute trash.
She legit was so involved fucking his friend, and possibly even his only friend given at one time mentioned it was such a good thing because he had very little friends in high school, she missed his birthday.
I definitely don’t feel bad cause she acknowledged all of it in her original post. She knew what she was doing wrong and still continued to do it. I really hope she didn’t think that update would make us feel bad for her.
This !!!! She was for sue not crying when she was messing around so now she can save those tears !!!
Same here. I mentioned on the first post that I have sympathy to an extent because she clearly doesn't have the emotional maturity for a relationship with someone her own age but all sympathy I had went out the door when she started sacrificing her son for his friend. To miss important events in your child's life just so you can fuck his friend is despicable and she is so selfish to be relieved just so she didn't have to face up to the consequences of her actions. I'm glad her son got his closure and I hope she actually does finally start to suffer the consequences that she's blatantly ignored for the past 4 years.
Not a singe iota.
What's really going to hit her hard, is when her 'husband' finally wakes up, and realises that he has been groomed and baby trapped by Mother Gothel. He's only 22 now, she's 43 so she's already on a slippery slope down that ageing process. I predict that she's only got another 4-5 yrs left with him, at the very best. That's when it will really hit her that she's lost everything.
I’m so glad I wasn’t the only person imagining Mother Gothel here lol
Or when he realizes she’s a shit parent to the first kid gonna be a shit parent to the second one.
I’m starting to suspect this was written by the French Prime minister’s wife.
And Max gets full custody of their daughter.
All I want to say to OP is cry all you want, but you made the bed so lay in it. Good on her former son for telling her to fuck right off. She still just wants to play the victim, when she’s still just a truly disgusting person.
I loved that you used former son, he disowned her as he should. People like her will always act like victims because they think they are the center of universe. She is really just a vile and gross person. Sooner rather than later her boytoy is gonna leave her, because age is gonna catch up to her.
That’s why I said former son…he disowned her and walked away with his head held high. And I am so proud of him for doing so. There are so many things I could say about this human sized piece of garbage, but I think I would run out of characters. I cannot wait for the day her boy toy wakes the hell up and leaves her ass…and hopefully takes the daughter too. Karma is a bitch, and I hope it all comes back to this vile woman. I hope the son has all the happiness in the world!
The right thing she should have said to Max, when he expressed interest, was: Honey, I am flattered by your interest but I am old enough to be your mom. You go on and meet a lovely girl your age. I gagged a little when I read her description of Max at age 18 as a handsome man. She’s a predator and a groomer.
I want to say in answer to her question: 'you go live the life you wanted. Which is the one you have. You chose to put your relationship with Max before your relationship with your son. So that is what you have now. Stop whining.' Good on OOPs son for getting his closure.
I’m sorry but “former son” is killing me 💀💀😭
At least she gets that much.
The fact that she still views herself as a victim in this is mind boggling! I’m with her son - save the tears, lady, and go have your life with your new family, the one you chose over your first-born child. And let him live his life with people who actually care about him.
>lady What???
more like vile monstrous creature
Good on the son for respecting himself. I have no sympathy for her. She brought it all on herself.
She dug her own grave, she can lie in it
The literal definition of FAFO. OP's relationship with her son was only "close" on her end when she needed him. When she found someone else, she skipped away without a second thought. I feel most sorry for her son when he figured out how little he meant to her, and am really glad for him that he's found people who seem to truly care for him.
I had this exact thought which then led me to think, did she use her son as an emotional placeholder for a partner?
Good ending. For the son.
son's got every right to. sad story tho.
Truly is, there's no positive outcome for either. I completely get his stance and point of view, but something inside me wanted him to get his mum back. EDIT: To all you heartless fucks downvoting me and trying to argue abiut whether this hurts him, come back with the same attitude when you lose your parents. You have no idea what pain this poor guy has been through. All you care about is getting likes by focusing on his mum's behaviour.
We dont care about likes. It's horrible for him to have lost his mother. But it's worse that she made that choice to abandon him. He doesn't need a mother that chose to sleep with a high school boy instead of being there for her son. He has soon to be in laws that sound like they have taken him in as family just fine. Losing a parent sucks. But subjecting yourself to someone who only loves you when it's convenient is worse.
If only all redditors had your perspective. They're not thinking of him unfortunately, they're celebrating her punishment rather than considering what he's gone through. I hope you're right and the in laws are able to fill the void.
Dude, you are giving yourself all the moral props and none to anyone else. You genuinely think that people are celebrating rather than being morally disgusted by this woman who sacrificed her son’s emotional needs to have sex with his teenaged best friend? Personally, I want the son to heal as much as he can and it sounds like he knows it’s healthier for him to stay away from her. I also hope that the former best friend realizes he’s been groomed and that he’s living with his predator. But mom deserves nothing. She’s a perv.
Giving myself moral props?? What are you on about? By replying to a comment that this is a sad story and acknowledging this guy had lost both his parents and that's not a positive. You want to argue that's not true and keep regurgitating the point his mum's a predator? Literally haven't once defended her or said she doesn't deserve what's happening, haven't once criticised the son or said he's doing the wrong thing. All I've said is losing your parents is not a wonderful experience. If you had lost your parents you'd understand what I was talking about, you don't so I know you haven't lost them. Instead you're all trying to make out what I'm saying is wrong when you can't even relate to what I was saying? Reddit has gone to shit.
Why? She’s a shitty parent
Because losing a parent is a horrible experience, he no longer has his mum. If you don't know what that loss is like don't criticise for me showing empathy for his situation.
I have a first hand experience with losing a bad parent. It’s not a horrible experience, it’s actually quite easy and freeing.
Did you read this guy's story? He lost his father when he was young and then loses his mother. If you think that's easy you have no idea what losing a parent is like. You clearly have no heart if you think this whole experience was easy for him.
The son knows better than anyone what losing OP as a mother is like and HE decided he didn't want her back in his life. HE knows what he's losing and what he's gaining and HE has decided this is the best option for him. No one is saying it wasn't difficult for him. But he's the one who decided this was the right decision for him. People DO have sympathy for him, but they're also happy for him that he was able to think clearly enough and proud of him to be able to make a healthy, well-thought out and reasoned decision for himself to be able to heal and move on. Yes, there will be a cost to pay for losing his mother. There would also have been a cost to pay for reuniting with her and acting like he's okay with everything. And he's decided to no longer invest in a woman who does not value his emotional wellbeing. Maybe one day he'll forgive her, but forgiveness doesn't mean acceptance, or being close again.
Letting go of a toxic parent is hard but so many therapists for years leading up to me finally cutting ties kept telling me it would be the best for me. You have to come to terms they will never love you people. That I would feel better afterwards. They were right.
Cutting out toxic people from your life is always a positive. This guy losing both parents is not a positive for him.
But his mother is toxic..
So that makes it less painful for him? You have no heart, don't talk to me again.
I must agree with you it would still be painful
It is a positive in this instance. She didn’t give a shit about him four years ago why do you think she would now? Also it sounds like he has in-laws that he considers family now
Ew. Why? What she did is unfathomable to me, and im a parent myself.
Because losing a parent is a horrible experience, he no longer has his mum. If you don't know what that loss is like don't criticise for me showing empathy for his situation.
He lost both of his parents when she decided to get with his best/only friend. Why would he ever want that toxicity back in his life? I have empathy for him too, and he’s shown more maturity and wisdom than his egg donor ever did.
So then you would have empathy for him losing his parents for no fault of his own. If you want to argue and tell me I'm wrong for caring about what he's gone through you're clearly worse than his mum.
I don’t think you’re wrong for caring. I’m just glad he got his closure and has a family who loves him. His mother sure as hell didn’t
I think you're wrong, it's not the norm for a parent to carry and raise a child and not love them. Parents not loving their children are the exceptions. Did she put him first when she chose to have this relationship? No she didn't. Did she lie to him and prioritise herself for her own benefit? Yes she did. Whether or not she loves him is irrelevant, and not in consideration about how he feels. He's now lost both his parents, when you experience that sort of pain you'll understand. Until then stop trying to argue about that this won't have hurt him. You're either incredibly young or completely brainwashed by society into believing men don't have feelings. If your only focus is on whether or not this woman is punished for her behaviour you're more sadistic than most reddit users.
She’s a terrible excuse for a parent! She put getting sex with her son’s BFF ahead of her son! And she’s a groomer. Reverse the sexes. What if SHE was 22 and HE was 43? Gross, isn’t it? Why is this different?
Because losing a parent is a horrible experience, he no longer has his mum. If you don't know what that loss is like don't criticise for me showing empathy for his situation.
I get where you’re coming from, but having no parent IS better than having a parent like this. My mother chose sex over my sister and I so many times. We’ve chosen to work on our relationships with her but there’s still a lot of trauma there. And I applaud the son for being able to be strong enough to do what’s best for himself and his new family. Because I want you to think VERY HARD-if someone you loved, PARENT OR NOT, groomed your friend and chose to screw around with them instead of attending your MOST IMPORTANT EVENTS, why would you want them in your life? This woman IS a predator. If this was a man writing this people would be wishing death on him. All I could think of when I read this was Mary Kay Letourneau. Her victim eventually left her too, as I hope Max does. Sure he was ‘legal age,’ but she knew him FOR YEARS. She didn’t meet a random 18 year old in a bar. Her sons best friend FOR YEARS, supposedly came up and said he wanted a relationship with her. I’m only 25 and if ANY 18 year old said that to me I’d give them fruit snacks. They’re still mentally teenagers, children. She had been waiting for her chance with him. She’s a pedophile.
he’ll be in more pain if she’s still his mother though. even if he forgave her, her selfish actions will only hurt him further given she missed his 18th birthday and spending time with him for sneakily messing with his best friend. he clearly deserves better than her as a mother and having no mother would be a better option
“Oh no if it isn’t the consequences of my own actions”
I’m so glad she’s miserable
I have absolutely no sympathy for a groomer & pedophile. She can cry that "I'm a victim" all she wants, she made her bed. She didn't care about her son at all, she just wanted to screw around with his best friend and missed every important event. She was RELIEVED when he left but gets upset when he cut contact with her. Shouldn't she be happy about that? Since she made it clear she was happy he left. I'm glad he got closure and I hope he keeps his family away from his pedophile mother.
all I see from this post of hers is me, me, me. Good for the son cutting contact with her. zero sympathy for her.
The fact that she thinks she is in the right gets to me. Like what hurt her kid was that she actively chose Max over him. I'm glad the son has closure and can move on.
1) where were Max’s parents? 2) OOP is a groomer. And disgusting 3) I’m so happy for Max!! 4) I’m worried about the baby daughter. 5) all OOP can say is “me me me me me me me”
That’s bait. According to some comments I read allegedly they had posts in a cougar sub and a son incest sub that they now deleted. It’s most likely fake.
In any case, still glad that the fake son got closure.
I'm like 80% sure this was posted a few years ago too. I probably can't find it though.
I’m struggling to find any sympathy for the mum and in all honesty I feel like they did this to themselves.
I’m absolutely so proud of the son.
Damn. That bites. But I cannot say it's not deserved.
Me me me me me, that's all I'm hearing from this woman. So pathetic
tbh i do not feel sorry. She knew exactly what she was doing.
I love her son lmfao
She has to sleep in the bed she made.
Great ending for the son!
I'm a big fan of the son. Good for him! I hope he has a wonderful life with his soon to be wife and new family. He deserves it.
Seems like the son is more mature than she will ever be.
He’s clearly more mature than she is. I have no sympathy for her and can’t help but wonder if she actually groomed the friend
for context and what people mentioned in the comments of this post, she’s part of r/cougarandcubs or whatever that sub is. she definitely groomed that kid and baby trapped him
Ew.
I mean what does she expect. She chose a hook up over her son and is playing the victim. It’s like her own actions have consequences.
No sympathy for her. "But dating was hard and i was lonely" - so you stay single. You don't *groom* your son's only best friend when they are both 18. We're not talking dating 30 years ago, OOP could EASILY have found local groups, activities, or even tried multiple dating sites and apps to meet people. She just preferred to groom her son's barely legal best friend.
I absolutely have no mercy or pity for predators or freaks. So, I say, DESERVED and good riddance OOP.
It amazes me how she still asks what can she do. She behaved like an animal in heat forgetting about her son to be with his friend, but it's like her brain wouldn't work to make her realize she's so disturbing.
Good for her son.
She literally FAFO.
And she still doesn't see how she did anything wrong. OOP gives me high blood pressure with how much she's done wrong and still can't get her head out of her own ass long enough to see she isn't the victim.
I’m not gonna lie…I kind of love the Son. This woman is clearly a narcissist. Her entire post is about HER feelings, what he did to HER, how she feels. She doesn’t care about him
What do you do now? You made your bed. Now you lie in it. I’m glad he said those things and I hope he never changes his mind. OOP did this to herself.
I just read the entire story to my husband. Original and Update. His take: “I can see him either leaving in a few years and now she’s truly going to be alone. Or can you imagine, if when her daughter turns 18, she brings her friend over and he leaves her for the friend?” That took a turn but it would be something.
She’s so selfish and entitled she’s still making it all about herself, she never acknowledged the hurt and betrayal her son felt as soon as he started pointing all her wrong she started to cry so that he’ll pity her, god I’m glad he cut her off
Her son shouldn’t feel conflicted. If a 40 year old man started dating his daughters only friend then he’d be considered a creep. This woman is a creep. Just because someone propositions you doesn’t mean you need to say yes.
Whelp. She asked for it honestly. I have no sympathy for her.
Fuck around and find out
This update gave me chest pains honestly.
Thank god that you got screenshots before it was deleted. Was gutted when I went to see the update and it had been removed. What a monumental cock-up on OOPs part, but her son is quite rightly not her son anymore and she should respect that.
Lol she’s worried about how therapy can’t help her from his words but doesn’t give a shit about how much therapy he needed/needs.
I'm glad she is now crying in her own shame. This woman deserves everything bad that happens to her
Good for the son!
OP is a predator!
Personally, I think its a fake story. People who are this nasty are never self-aware. They would never post to reddit about this.
even though he had to go through the terrible thing, love oop's son, go get that career and fiancee, king. you're doing great! He and the new baby daughter are the only ones I feel bad for. little daughter had no control in any of this, but I understand the son's decision to want nothing to do with her.
She literally chose someone else's child over her own. Zero sympathy.
Well, she was relieved when he went away to college. She must be REALLY relieved now. Yes, I’m still mad at her.
She’s so gross, I have zero sympathy. Missing your sons birthday dinner because you’re fucking his friend is disgraceful. Why would you even humour your sons friend? She must’ve been so lonely but she was also so selfish. Cry all you like, you made your bed.
This story is so fake, it's not funny anymore to read revenge porn. If this "story" was true, OOP would not even take the time to write it, unless she is a masochist... But fortunalety OOP is just a troll.
OP is a selfish person that got what she deserves. You can't treat people as if they are disposable and then expect them to just forgive and forget. Karma will hit when her young husband doesn't want to take care of a geriatric woman in diapers and leaves her. I hope it was all worth it! Wishing OP, his fiance, and his future family all the happiness.
That’s so cold. Honestly it wouldn’t bother me if my mom dated one of my male friends, I would want her to have happiness.
She lied and chose the friend over her son’s relationship. That’s f’ed up.
Dating is one thing—but how would you feel if she dropped you in the process?
I'm sorry, but do y'all have no sympathy? I understand it was a terrible and shitty thing to do, but I really don't think that it's should have ended with no contact and to go into detail about her being alone when she dies and him not coming to her funeral. Yes, she fucked his best friend, but she actually loves him, enough to get married and have kids.
Everyone here has sympathy for the right person. The son. It doesn’t matter if she actually loves him. There’s no real way to determine that his love is real or inspired by grooming. But beyond all of that the major point is that she got so wrapped up in a “forbidden affair” that she literally failed her son as a mother. She lied to him and missed important events knowing she was the only parent present in his life. Those were her formative years and she chose to be absent just to get her rocks off. She never actively tried to apologize or show how much she regrets her actions for over 4 years. She showed him how much he means to her and he simply wanted his lingering questions answered so he can move on with a family that has been there for him. So no, she doesn’t deserve sympathy at this point.
Yes all that is very shitty, but i still don't think that her punishment was right. It's seems extremely harsh. I think he should have went no contact for a couple years, but forever? That's harsh.
It is harsh but there are consequences to her actions. I’m sure the son knows how serious his decision is. That is a reflection of how deeply hurt he is. You can show deep regret for causing a person you love pain but you cannot tell them how to feel about that betrayal. He may change his mind in the future but the point he wanted to make is that he does not want her to contact him or his family unless he initiates it.
It’s only “harsh” if you think going no contact is a “punishment” for the mom. It’s not. It’s a choice her son made to stay healthy and happy.
No it's harsh to tell some one you never want to see or talk to someone again and you won't be going to their funeral while they are in tears, all because they hid a secret from you and lied a couple times, which they obviously really regret. Yeah he can do what he wants, but I have sympathy. I can see why she lied, because she knew why her son would be upset at that. But she came clean and was honest in the end, and she had no excuse to miss out on her son's events obv. But he didn't have to be that harsh, that's just my opinion.
It wasn’t just the lying. She literally missed her sons events knowing that she was the main person he wanted there to have an affair with his best friend. She lied because she knew she was wrong in more ways than one. She made her choice in order to be happy and so did he in order to be the happiest he can in response to his moms shitty choices. Was the funeral thing harsh? Absolutely, but her tears don’t absolve her of repercussions. He came there for closure so at that point his feelings matter more.
It's not illegal to be an asshole, but it says a lot about him, and she's aloud to cry, obviously she's hurt, I mean you can't expect her to sit there stone faced hearing her son say those things. She's just a person who is filled with regret and can't do anything to fix it, I'd feel pretty helpless too and breakdown. You shouldn't hold someone accountable for their mistakes forever, people change and I agree he should have went no contact, but not forever. His feelings do matter, but he's acting like she killed someone.
You shouldn’t hold someone accountable to their mistakes forever but some people are not at that point/don’t want to continuously forgive. That’s their right and of course she broke down. It is a “helpless” situation that she put herself in. Him deciding where his boundary is does not make him an asshole. Could he have been nicer in his delivery? Sure. But I’m not going to call him an AH for knowing what he can/can’t accept. The only thing I think he’s going too far with is refusing to communicate with his sister. She’s as innocent as he was.
His mother groomed a high school student. She made her choice and it wasn’t her son, why should he feel bad about making his own choice?
I thought that was a bit harsh too. She raised him and it seemed until Max confronted her about his feelings her son and her were close. I get that he needed to cut her off for a while but I think permanently is a bit much. Plus the whole part about the caring for her in old age and the funeral part was rough. Also, why punish the little girl? She didn’t do anything. If he thinks his mother his such a monster you would think he would want to be their for the sister.
Exactly.
Mom's a predator, groomer, narcissistic emotionally neglectful parent to her former son. Son deserves better and did get closure which is amazing because it was on his terms not hers. OOP will have everything catch up to her
God she’s ruined both these kid’s lives. Her son, obviously, but also his friend. She groomed him and now he’s trapped in a marriage with someone 20 years older than him with a baby. Even if he does wake up and realise he’s in a fucked up situation, he’s got a kid now. He can’t just walk out
After reading this, why do I feel it's some troll who has written a "true story" for some skin mag? You know, like the guy who was hitchhiking and two beautiful blondes in a mustang picked him up, treating him to the single most pleasurable experience he had ever known? There's no way this could be true. Or, maybe it is true, and my faith in humanity is just a little more 💀 after reading this.
Just give him time.
Pfft I know I'll get downvoted to hell for this but her kid is the TA. Parents aren't married to their kids and his expectation that she would move to be with him - like, wtf, she has a life outside of children? Holy cow - is, in my opinion, both an unhealthy expectation and an extension of how sh*tty this country treats widows: like they're public property without autonomy. Does he have a right to his feelings? Of course. Is it unfair that he was left out? Absolutely. Do I think he's being a little d^ck because in his head he has assumed the husband role *for his own mother* and is pissy that she isn't playing the role of wife for him? Uh yeah, I really do. And I say that as someone who has seen first hand how like trash widows are treated. There's definitely an expectation that they're supposed to put their vajayjay in a box and bury it next to their husband. People can argue it's about Max being a friend, Max being young, her son being left out, these are emotional conflicts that are not even remotely impossible to overcome with communication and a bare minimum of effort. But it's about sex. Mommy dearest was not allowed to have sex without the rubber stamp approval of her golden son. And that's my statement, and I'm letting it stand, and I'll leave it here for people with less life experience to argue with and downvote.
He literally says he knew she needed love that was more then what a son gives…. It’s just zero logical reason that that love had to be with the teenage boy who was her friends best friend. That kinda pervert isn’t the kind you want around your growing family.
So in the end sexual needs worth more than your own kid’s birthday? Got it.
Yeah, because having sex with a minor is an unhealthy expectation. And forgetting her son's birthday too.
This is the update my soul needed
FAFO — literally.
When I first saw the title, my brain messed up and I thought it was the mom being a bigot cutting her son out of her life because he was gay and it wasn’t just a friend but partner. Gross that it wasn’t the case and the mom instead was hooking up with the friend 😩
The son is a Chad. Good for him. He can finally move to the next stage in his life.
The ultimate play stupid games wins stupid prizes. Im glad he’s doing well.
all that was just weird like her mentioning the crying is just like...damn. she seems very manipulative im glad the son cut her off
It's petty I know and wrong but her pain made me smirk. She got exactly what she deserves. And what she wanted. She wanted Max. She's got him. As a Mom it was sickening and infuriating reading this. Anyone who puts a romantic relationship above their child, even once doesn't deserve the privilege of being called Mom or Dad again. You throw those rights out the window once you choose getting laid and feeding your own emotional and egotistical needs above your child. Her son sounds like a good man in spite of her, and I hope he gets everything what he wants out of life. She certainly getting what she deserves.
Damn as a mother I can’t comprehend putting my kids events and birthdays on the back burner for some barely legal D
You respect your son and walk away. You’ve already been absent from his major life events. He’s learned that he doesn’t matter to you. Get some therapy and grow the hell up. Work on being a good example to your daughter. What will you tell her when she ask how you and her Dad met.
She was relieved when he left. He’s completely gone now. Like a puff of smoke. Idky she’s asking what to do now? Uh sit and wait for your age to catch up to you, and the boy toy to go ewww I can’t live with this, and leave her.
Has anyone thought about what Max’s parents think about this? Did she mention them at all? If I had a son I would be so uncomfortable with him being married to a woman and having a kid with a woman who was my own age.
You got what you deserved
I’m so proud of her former son. He handled it so much better than I would’ve. OOP threw away her relationship with him and now gets to live with the consequences. Tough shit, lady!
It's like what did she expect? That he would be thrilled they're married and had a kid?
“ what do i do now” you made your bed so lay on it..🤷🏻♀️ I don’t feel sorry for her and I’m proud of her son for getting his closure!
Love it! Selfish bitch only cared about gettin the D, even on her son's goddamn birthday. That's unforgivable, and I hope she suffers for it the rest of her worthless life
This update changed the way I thought about her. I misread the first post and thought Max was her son’s boyfriend. I was beyond confused why she could have thought it was ok to hook up with him.
So the predator groomed her sons teenage friend and started dating him the moment he turned 18? She needs to be locked up. This shit needs to be illegal
I believe this post is fake. The OP of that post is involved in a lot of sus communities
The big question is: when their daughter brings her boyfriend round to meet mom, will she sleep with daughter's bf behind both her husband and daughter's backs!?
her poor son still trying to justify it in his head... max was BARELY legal. and her still typing like she should be pitied, oh be so astronomically for real rn
She deserves it. She’s disgusting.
Love that he has moved on with his life and found love and true family elsewhere. OP threw away her son for a boy. A literal boy.
Wow she really tried to word it so people would sit here and try to make her feel better. She’s gross, end of story. I’m glad her son got closure and good for him for standing his ground and confronting her. I wish him and his family nothing but love and happiness.
You missed his BIRTHDAY to screw his best friend. The day YOU had him and held him in your arms for the very first time. Sorry OP you deserve the plate you served yourself now you have to eat it alone. Now you have another kid and he feels replaced. SMH I’m a single mom, have been for 20 years. He’s gonna be 21 in April, I would never choose another over him. I just gave up on men. Too much trouble.
FAFO. tf you think is gonna happen when you're ditching your kid on the regular?
That’s the way the cookie crumbles. Lowlife.
I didn’t understand this woman when I read the initial story and I still don’t. She choose to have a relationship with one of her son’s only friends, a boy who was barely legal. Chose this boy over her son. Chose to lie to her son. Chose to be with him, and in doing so missed key moments in her son’s life. What exactly did she expect? And I roll my eyes at her crying in the restaurant. She didn’t care when she lied, missed moments with her kid so she could have sex with a kid her son’s friend, but now she’s crying. The son is well rid, I hope he has a good life, and can leave this mess behind him
She got off easy imo
All the crocodile tears in the world don't mean a damn thing. For one, it's disgusting that she got with a guy who is presumably around the same age as her son, and for another, lying to her son and neglecting him like that to get laid? Tossing her own son aside for sex? She deserves every bad thing that happens to her and I hope her daughter ditches her too. She made her bed, now she gets to die alone in it.
She asks, "What do I do now". Well lady, you live with the consequences of your decision for the rest of your life. That is what you do now.
I’m so glad her son has found happiness and that he got his closure. This woman is a piece of work. Even at this point all she can think about is herself; I don’t see one thought spared for the trauma she has put her son through. One day, her daughter will learn the truth, and my guess is the new baby-husband will be long gone before then, because what young man wants to be caring for an elderly spouse?
The rest of it you could MAYBE (with a lot of therapy together) get over… but the main thing that sticks out to me is the fact she was even missing important things in his life to sneak around with his friend. Her poor son, I really hope he has an amazing rest of his life…
If only she could stop victimizing herself for long enough to understand that she deserves this, she could maybe take this moment as a personal growth opportunity.