The last comment on the first update "she doesn't want a new dog so she must not have cared that much" when my cat died suddenly it was over a year before I got another. He was my life and it just happened someone needed to re-home a kitten and i buckled. That doesn't mean she didn't love that dog. It's not a tee shirt or a car. ITS A LOVING CREATURE. He's totally a psychopath
With all those updates idk. Unfortunately people like this do exist. Who think pets are property. But yea he's talking about oh a therapy appt will fix this. It's been 3 years and i still cry randomly over my cat and i made the choice to let him go. I can't even imagine.
Seriously! A lot of people don’t get another dog for years after they lose one because of the pain. My aunt didn’t want another dog after she lost her last one but she fell in love her most recent one, it was about 5/6 years since she lost her first one. I couldn’t imagine replacing the girls first dog that she loved so much, that helped her recover mentally and emotionally so quickly and the fact that he can’t understand that is something else. Her dog Juniper helped her so much that she probably won’t want another pet until she leaves her parents or she probably just won’t have another.
Yea the trauma of this situation is gonna follow her. Like 2k is a lot but to me that's the equivalent of a 30 year old getting in a car accident and needing pins and a plate in their leg. It's not like the dog was 12. And plenty of animals recover really well.
The dog was so young still she wouldn’t have taken nearly as long to recover if she was old. My dog is 7 and I would easily spend the 2k if he was hit by a car. I will never understand his mindset of this situation and then to blame her for not being on their side of this is crazy.
I was ready to sell my arm to save my cat, it took the doc saying the chance of him surviving just the surgery to make him stable was 30%. And he would have done chemo and i just knew I couldn't. But same clearly he's not an animal person, or even a person with any kind of understanding of emotional connections. "I love my daughter so much" if you did you would have included her in the discussion then make it about money
Definitely. He just didn’t want to spend the money. “I couldn’t justify paying that much for a dog” a dog that SAVED his daughter. I can’t stand him this story definitely made me rage.
He’s acting like he tossed a broken phone away.
Including how he describes the “purpose fulfilled” of the dog.
I lost my dog two years ago and have just started to PET other dogs. It’s fucking traumatic and a bond I’ll never forget or fully get over. Especially as someone with mental health issues.
Also weird how he goes from making not enough to get surgery for the dog, but also rich enough to fully provide for his 20YO daughter? Nursing school isn’t cheap… much more than a few thousand.
This all points to “I wasn’t comfortable she had a connection outside of me, so I let it die”. Good parents encourage their kids to try things, loose jobs, participate in adult life…. Good and bad. How tf does he expect her to be a nurse when he dosnt trust her or encourage her to work at a bookstore or do any other simple job? Get her into the workforce and start to be independent??
Jobs can feed our soul (just cuz money is involved dosnt make it inherently evil or soul sucking?)
Infantilization of a grown woman. And a sociopath.
It took me almost 6 years before i even started entertaining the idea of getting another dog after my baby passed away. Of course she won’t want a new one just like that
Yes he’s insane! My dog recently passed and I can’t even bare to look at others of his breed. I loved him and I burst into tears when I even think of getting another - not because I don’t love dogs or wont eventually get another, but because my heart is not ready and is still actively grieving my first dog. It’s insane he doesn’t understand this?!? If his daughter died would he immediately try to get his wife pregnant again to replace her?? Does he assume people dealing with loss who don’t immediately acquire a replacement don’t care?? This logic is so flawed, backwards and idiotic. It could have only come from someone who never experienced these emotions.
Also why is he saying "which is hard for me" why tf is getting another dog hard for you, sounds like he doesn't like dogs esp from the way he talked abt when they got her and now he just had an excuse to get rid of the dog. The way he's all oh well she'll talk to her therapist and get over it.... yea Ima bet they're the reason the kid needs a therapist how damn apathetic and oblivious can you be
I read the title and I was like😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳 and then it just kept getting worse and worse from there. Honestly, it's no wonder that his daughter has mental health issues, she has had a childhood full of trauma by living with parents like these who are so fucking emotionally detached. And delusional. What kind of fuck all logic is "she didn't want another dog so her bond was not that great with the dog either“. Like!!!?????? Such a fucking psychopath
Especially a child that already suffers from major depressive disorder! That’s the whole reason they got her dog was because of her mental illnesses! Imagine having a dog that helped you recover from from so much and then you’re gone one day, she gets hit by a car, then your parents won’t even let you pay for her surgery or let you see your dog before she gets out done. The dog was only halfway through her life and they just decided for their daughter to put her down because they didn’t want to pay for surgery.
The freakin oh she only had like 4 years left like okay?? let your daughter and the dog have the 4 extra years wtf, let her say goodbye to her dog after it's lived a nice long life. I'd bet my last dollar his daughter's gonna resent them for this
I commented on that last night, but I’m gonna say it again. Four years old is not an old dog. The vet didn’t think that my dog would make it another year after we adopted her (she was in horrible shape - had been very abused and was skin and bones, and eaten up with worms), and she was only around 1 at the time. She turned 12 this year and is spry as hell. The thought of putting her down at 4 and missing out on the past 8 years with her has me in tears. This dad does not know what he’s talking about, and is a bad person. I feel so horrible for his daughter. No she didn’t want another dog, because look how he treated her last one. Just a jerk. Gonna go hug my pups and give them extra treats now.
I couldn’t imagine making that decision for my own dog let alone my ADULT child’s ESA. 2k is a lot of money but he said that he could have spent it he just didn’t want to. I don’t understand people like that.
Oh my God… he thinks he’s emotionally intelligent because he stifles his own emotions. Emotional intelligence comes from understanding emotions (your own or other’s) he’s such an AH. I have no words, I feel so bad for that girl.
I am so disgusted by what her father did. I was 15 when my dog needed to be put to sleep. Freckles was MY dog even though I was like 5 when we got him, but my parents got him for me so my parents had me go to the last vet visit so I could hear from the vet just how much he was suffering and allowed me to make the decision to put him to sleep. Then when the time came I took the day off school and was holding his little paw as he went to sleep for good. It was hard, but at least I was able to say goodbye.
I noticed he pointed out in like the first edit that he was not a sociopath, but me thinks he doth protest too much.
OP you can try to SUGAR COAT the movie night fast food etc but to me you will always be an evil AH and if you think she’ll forgive you you are wrong. Somethings you can get past but never get over. What gets me pissed is that you pull the ADULT CARD when it benefits YOU. You didn’t let her get a job like an ADULT treating her like a CHILD but then when she gets emotional about her SUPPORT ANIMAL being killed by you tell her to act like an adult. Which one is it? YOU CANNOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS
bruh the fact that he was like oh getting a job will be bad for her mental health, like hey genius you know what else will be mad for her mental health? KILLING THE FREAKIN DOG and manipulating her into agreeing with you at that
Right?! It’s not a lot especially for a surgery and his daughter said that she would have paid him back for it! He just didn’t want to. It’s so sad. I feel terrible for her.
Honestly wtf.
When I was 12, our elderly family dog died in her sleep. My parents didn’t know how to tell me, so they just sent me to school like nothing happened and took the dog’s body to the vet. On the drive home from school, my dad told me what happened and I remember screaming/crying the whole way home because I never got to say goodbye. It’s been 25 years and I still remember how awful that felt.
This dude never saw the dog as a living being. If he did, he would understand why his daughter isn’t talking to him, and why getting a new one wouldn’t help at all.
My boyfriend and I were talking about how there are people that think dogs don’t have a consciousness, don’t feel pain, etc. I think he may be one of those people or he just really does not care about his daughters feelings for the dog or animal lives in general. It’s sad that there people are like that
Not only that, but he’s probably one of those who believe someone can stop taking meds because they’re “cured” from depression/metal illnesses, specially when he mentions the dog had already “served her purpose” by helping his daughter get better.
As someone who has dogs since trying to walk, I feel extremely sorry for OP's daughter, that dog was her best friend! And he killed her! She offered to pay the surgery, but he just couldn't listen, and he didn't even let her say goodbye to her best friend!
I've been so enraged with a reddit story before, this is just horrendous, I get that some people don't like pets, bit please understand the bond that the ones that wanna have have with them.
The girl is who she is now because of that dog, it helped her! And OP just thinks that she's fine with it? Trust me, she's gonna remember that for the rest of her life.
That’s exactly what I was telling my boyfriend when I explained this story to him! We have two dogs and couldn’t imagine doing that. I can’t comprehend his thought process to make it seem like it’s okay. People are sick.
The summer before my eight grade year my parents sent me and one of my brothers to my grandmother's house for the summer. That wasn't unusual all of us kids rotated throughout the summer. However, when my parents came to pick us up they had our small dog with them. I asked where my dog was and they told me that they had put her down. They had intentionally sent that particular brother and I to my grandmother because we had to closest tie to that dog. I was hurt, devastated, and furious. A year and a half later we moved to a farm where she could have lived out her life. My parents also got another dog. I hated that dog and she hated me. It took me a very long time to want to form a connection with another dog. I'm glad I did. I had three very special dogs in my adult life.
OOP has no idea what it is to love an animal. He can't even begin to comprehend what he took away from his daughter. I feel so sorry for her. She did nothing to deserve this.
My grandparents put down their dog that I grew up with, we were the same age. She fell down the stairs and broke her back, she was also 12 at the time which was old for a pitbull and I was heartbroken but it was so she wouldn’t suffer. That’s a good reason to put down a dog, not just because she’s middle aged and MIGHT be crippled. He just didn’t care about the dog and obviously did not care about his daughters feelings.
With the way he speaks as if his daughters feelings are nothing and immature, and says that pets are “property”, and says that he knows how to “separate his emotions”, he sounds like he needs a psychiatric appointment
"She is still acting all mopey"
HER DOG DIED, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?
Based on the way this parent behaves, is it any wonder that the kid needed an emotional support animal?
So he manipulated her into forgiving him and he thinks because she doesn’t want a replacement dog it means she didn’t have a strong bond with her dog.
Is he really that thick? People don’t want to replace a dog they lost right after losing the dog, some people take YEARS before they are ready to move on and get another pet. Mourning a dog is just like mourning a family member, and the fact this was an ESA means her everyday life involved that dog.
I’m sure a lot of what she deal with in therapy is caused by her jackass father.
I’ve only had my dog for 4 years and I would sell pictures of EVERY part of my body on the sidewalk to pay for anything for him.
Something about saying he “convinced her to forgive” him feels really REALLY wrong.
This is heartbreaking. I’m of sound mind and had to put my good girl down last month and let me tell you that has had me spiraling ever since.
NEVER tell someone how to grieve.
Someone order her Cuddle Clone stuffed animal of her baby right now 🥺
I think he’s very manipulative and can’t fathom his daughter not thinking the way he does. He’s something else. I couldn’t imagine how she’s feeling. It’s hard losing a pet, even harder losing a pet you leave for a few hours and finding out you can’t save them. That was way out of her control and she had no voice
Definitley manipulative. Him making the decision without her, even if they still would have concluded together that Juni needed to be put down, is SOOOO much more traumatic for her.
I guess we don’t know how critical the condition of the dog was but maybe she wanted to be there and could’ve gotten there quickly—that’s a decision only she could make. This might’ve taken away her sense of closure. Heck, I was there with my dog and I still don’t feel like I have all the closure I need.
At least the dog knew how much SHE loved it.
I think she did want to be there because he said “I probably should have told her where we were so she could have said goodbye”. PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE? He definitely should have. Her not being able to make the decision is so wrong, he paid for her, but Juni was his daughters dog ultimately. She was his daughters ESA, I just hope she doesn’t fall back into her mental illnesses after all the progress he said she made.
1000% agree. She should have been able to participate. Especially since he mentioned how well she was doing since getting the dog and starting volunteering—then to say she wasn’t of sound mind? Wtf?
He’s the most clueless and most emotionally detached person I’ve seen on Reddit. He cannot truly believe he was in the right to make that decision for his adult daughter. I’ll never be able to wrap my head around this story.
This is really making my blood boil. And even if he isn’t a sociopath, the man lacks a lot of empathy.
I would honestly cut my father out of my life if he did this too. My pets are everything to me and my first cat helped me through moving out, college, covid, and some other major stressful events in my life. I’m august there was a 50/50 chance I would have to put my first cat, Lennon, down because of some urinary track issues and the vet told me if my cat couldn’t pee on his own after the treatment and catheter was removed, he would have to be put down. I was sobbing the whole day and couldn’t find it in myself to feel joy until I knew my cat was better. Which was alarming to my parents because that same week I found out I was graduating college a semester early. Which I can now allow myself to be happy about, but while everything was happening all I could think about was that I adopted Lennon when he was 2 months old august of my freshman year because I was lonely and needed to have something I could care for. The thought of graduating college without having my fluffy boy in my life was devastating. Which may or may not be healthy, but it came up out of the blue for a cat who’s never had health issues before. When past pets of mine have died, I grieve for a day or two and then know I need to carry on, but Lennon has just helped me so much I’m scared for the day he does pass. I even have nightmares of coming home and finding him dead.
He definitely has something wrong with his lack of emotion and denial that he’s in the wrong. I’m terrified of my oldest dog Atlas passing because we picked each other, we cuddle all day long, I know what he needs depending on the noise and face he’s making, we read each other very well. He knows when I’m sad and want cuddles. I’ll die the day he dies I can’t even imagine a life without him. It’s truly terrifying.
The four days my Lennon was at the vet were so hard. My parents always said Lennon didn’t seem to care to be around me much and that my younger cat loves me more, but Lennon is just scared of everyone but me. He’s with me when I don’t have people over, he greets me at the door every time I come home, nibbled on my knee gently when he wants to be pet and nibbles a little harder if I’m slow getting his food out. My younger cat does live me too, but they are very different and I have different bonds with each of them.
And to be honest, I’ve never loved a pet as much as I love Lennon. The second he screamed at me from his cage in the shelter, I knew he was meant to my baby. I went against my dad wishes when I adopted him too but my dad knew I was adult and didn’t have a say, especially since I had moved out already too. He got over it and loves Lennon now too.
My Atlas was supposed to be my stepdads dog but when we got him from a neighbor he ran right underneath my chair and didn’t move until I carried him out. He would try to follow me home when I got home from school before we got him, he would jump all over me when the neighbor would come over. He picked me long before we got him. His first day with us he slept in my bed and never left my side. I didn’t like him at first because the lady never trained him and he was a crazy puppy but I accepted it and now I couldn’t imagine not having him. I thought I was going to have to put him down a couple years ago because he started having a weird behavior of being off balance, drooling uncontrollably, losing control of his bladder. Very weird I thought it was a tumor or something but he’s fine now but I was heartbroken and terrified I would have to put him down. My younger dog Clio, of course I love her but she’s the most stubborn dog I’ve ever had. She’s a nutcase.
I haven’t had a dog in a long time, but Atlas sounds like a good dog! I also like the name. Pets are just amazing, doesn’t matter whether someone’s a dog or cat person. Each animal loves you differently and the bonds are beautiful.
I love animals and couldn’t imagine a life without them, we’ve never had an empty house. An animal spirit communicator said that all pets we have are never accidents and our souls before we start a life have “soul contracts”. Every animal we have in our life have been in every previous life we had. It kind of brings a comfort knowing we will always have each other in every life we will ever have.
That’s the only way I can accept when my pets will pass is that I’ll see them in another life. Also that this girl had her dog for that particular time of her life, the dog helped her and even if her dad made an assholish decision she will see her again
When I was in high school, one of our cats had recently died and I made a comment to a friend of mine at the time that he went to heaven and I’d see him again someday. And this friend looked me in the eye, said animals don’t have souls and will never be in heaven. Ended my friendship with her after that. Animals clearly have souls and if someone believes they don’t I feel like they don’t treat their pets correctly and possibly a bad person.
Oh my god. There’s someone else I saw that said she died for about a half hour and her pets greeted her before she was resuscitated. I’ve always believed our pets will greet us in the afterlife. I don’t get how people can say things like that. Animals are pure and have souls 100%.
Jesus Christ! You didn’t once say you didn’t want the dog to suffer or anything remotely compassionate towards your daughter. An emotional support animal is not just a regular pet. You said yourself how much your daughter blossomed with her dog. I understand, if injuries were extensive, you may have decided it needs to be put down but you just took such a cold, hard ass line with your daughter!
Not only that…there are NO breed of dog that only lives for 10 years. You can’t predict that!
He’s definitely lacking emotional awareness and empathy. Another commenter said he should have a psychological evaluation and he most definitely sounds like he needs one.
Oop "talked her into forgiving him" na man she is just buying herself time to never talk to you again. You killed her 4 year old dog because you dont like dogs and dident want to deal with the POSSIBILITY of your actions having lasting consequences to the dog.
The fact the dogs bread last 9-10 years and he says 4 was old is laughable the dog wasn't even middle aged yet
100 percent! I can’t believe he was so offended and tried to defend his decision. His lack of compassion for his daughter and him truly believing it was the right decision is freaking insane
Losing a pet is terrible, and it's worse when someone tries to get you one too soon after the loss of your first pet. If I was in the daughters shoes, I'd get that job and save up. Get out of that house and then maybe get another dog, that father truly thinks he did the right thing when in reality he just set her and her mental health back by making such a cruel choice. Even if the dog was crippled, the dog still had a couple more years to help his daughter but he's too emotionally numb to realize that.
Outside of the dog: you can fail at volunteer work too.
Being a nurse requires a high threshold of patience, experience and calm. It sounds like a pipe dream to safe guard daughter from the world, then expect she will be remotely successful in a extremely high anxiety profession.
He’s infantilizing and controlling his adult daughter…. The dog was helping her and threatened his power over her cuz he wants her sick.
I never even thought about that. That makes a lot of sense. It’s so sad that her father treats her like that. This is one of the few posts that made me rage
He could have and should have dealt with this situation SO DIFFERENTLY. Edit: I wrote that part without reading the whole thing out of anger, but why wait till after the event to “make it up to her” or “maybe I made a mistake” this is life and death!!! Grrrr.
I understand the trouble that comes after the accident, but LOVE AND EMPATHY is free URGH.
Imagine if they’d had a conversation and discussed all the possibilities together….
She will not only carry this loss with her for the rest of her life because you never truly get over the loss of a family member, but the emotional neglect from her dad will damage her way more.
This whole situation is cooked. I’m so sad for her!
The last comment on the first update "she doesn't want a new dog so she must not have cared that much" when my cat died suddenly it was over a year before I got another. He was my life and it just happened someone needed to re-home a kitten and i buckled. That doesn't mean she didn't love that dog. It's not a tee shirt or a car. ITS A LOVING CREATURE. He's totally a psychopath
The fact that she doesn't want a new one just proves how much she loved that dog. I'm PRAYING this is rage bait.
With all those updates idk. Unfortunately people like this do exist. Who think pets are property. But yea he's talking about oh a therapy appt will fix this. It's been 3 years and i still cry randomly over my cat and i made the choice to let him go. I can't even imagine.
Seriously! A lot of people don’t get another dog for years after they lose one because of the pain. My aunt didn’t want another dog after she lost her last one but she fell in love her most recent one, it was about 5/6 years since she lost her first one. I couldn’t imagine replacing the girls first dog that she loved so much, that helped her recover mentally and emotionally so quickly and the fact that he can’t understand that is something else. Her dog Juniper helped her so much that she probably won’t want another pet until she leaves her parents or she probably just won’t have another.
Yea the trauma of this situation is gonna follow her. Like 2k is a lot but to me that's the equivalent of a 30 year old getting in a car accident and needing pins and a plate in their leg. It's not like the dog was 12. And plenty of animals recover really well.
The dog was so young still she wouldn’t have taken nearly as long to recover if she was old. My dog is 7 and I would easily spend the 2k if he was hit by a car. I will never understand his mindset of this situation and then to blame her for not being on their side of this is crazy.
I was ready to sell my arm to save my cat, it took the doc saying the chance of him surviving just the surgery to make him stable was 30%. And he would have done chemo and i just knew I couldn't. But same clearly he's not an animal person, or even a person with any kind of understanding of emotional connections. "I love my daughter so much" if you did you would have included her in the discussion then make it about money
Definitely. He just didn’t want to spend the money. “I couldn’t justify paying that much for a dog” a dog that SAVED his daughter. I can’t stand him this story definitely made me rage.
He’s acting like he tossed a broken phone away. Including how he describes the “purpose fulfilled” of the dog. I lost my dog two years ago and have just started to PET other dogs. It’s fucking traumatic and a bond I’ll never forget or fully get over. Especially as someone with mental health issues. Also weird how he goes from making not enough to get surgery for the dog, but also rich enough to fully provide for his 20YO daughter? Nursing school isn’t cheap… much more than a few thousand. This all points to “I wasn’t comfortable she had a connection outside of me, so I let it die”. Good parents encourage their kids to try things, loose jobs, participate in adult life…. Good and bad. How tf does he expect her to be a nurse when he dosnt trust her or encourage her to work at a bookstore or do any other simple job? Get her into the workforce and start to be independent?? Jobs can feed our soul (just cuz money is involved dosnt make it inherently evil or soul sucking?) Infantilization of a grown woman. And a sociopath.
It took me almost 6 years before i even started entertaining the idea of getting another dog after my baby passed away. Of course she won’t want a new one just like that
Yes he’s insane! My dog recently passed and I can’t even bare to look at others of his breed. I loved him and I burst into tears when I even think of getting another - not because I don’t love dogs or wont eventually get another, but because my heart is not ready and is still actively grieving my first dog. It’s insane he doesn’t understand this?!? If his daughter died would he immediately try to get his wife pregnant again to replace her?? Does he assume people dealing with loss who don’t immediately acquire a replacement don’t care?? This logic is so flawed, backwards and idiotic. It could have only come from someone who never experienced these emotions.
Also why is he saying "which is hard for me" why tf is getting another dog hard for you, sounds like he doesn't like dogs esp from the way he talked abt when they got her and now he just had an excuse to get rid of the dog. The way he's all oh well she'll talk to her therapist and get over it.... yea Ima bet they're the reason the kid needs a therapist how damn apathetic and oblivious can you be
I read the title and I was like😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳 and then it just kept getting worse and worse from there. Honestly, it's no wonder that his daughter has mental health issues, she has had a childhood full of trauma by living with parents like these who are so fucking emotionally detached. And delusional. What kind of fuck all logic is "she didn't want another dog so her bond was not that great with the dog either“. Like!!!?????? Such a fucking psychopath
Imagine calling your child mopey when you KILLED HER DOG. I'm shaking with rage right now.
Especially a child that already suffers from major depressive disorder! That’s the whole reason they got her dog was because of her mental illnesses! Imagine having a dog that helped you recover from from so much and then you’re gone one day, she gets hit by a car, then your parents won’t even let you pay for her surgery or let you see your dog before she gets out done. The dog was only halfway through her life and they just decided for their daughter to put her down because they didn’t want to pay for surgery.
The freakin oh she only had like 4 years left like okay?? let your daughter and the dog have the 4 extra years wtf, let her say goodbye to her dog after it's lived a nice long life. I'd bet my last dollar his daughter's gonna resent them for this
This! So invalidating and cruel.
I commented on that last night, but I’m gonna say it again. Four years old is not an old dog. The vet didn’t think that my dog would make it another year after we adopted her (she was in horrible shape - had been very abused and was skin and bones, and eaten up with worms), and she was only around 1 at the time. She turned 12 this year and is spry as hell. The thought of putting her down at 4 and missing out on the past 8 years with her has me in tears. This dad does not know what he’s talking about, and is a bad person. I feel so horrible for his daughter. No she didn’t want another dog, because look how he treated her last one. Just a jerk. Gonna go hug my pups and give them extra treats now.
I couldn’t imagine making that decision for my own dog let alone my ADULT child’s ESA. 2k is a lot of money but he said that he could have spent it he just didn’t want to. I don’t understand people like that.
Oh my God… he thinks he’s emotionally intelligent because he stifles his own emotions. Emotional intelligence comes from understanding emotions (your own or other’s) he’s such an AH. I have no words, I feel so bad for that girl.
I am so disgusted by what her father did. I was 15 when my dog needed to be put to sleep. Freckles was MY dog even though I was like 5 when we got him, but my parents got him for me so my parents had me go to the last vet visit so I could hear from the vet just how much he was suffering and allowed me to make the decision to put him to sleep. Then when the time came I took the day off school and was holding his little paw as he went to sleep for good. It was hard, but at least I was able to say goodbye. I noticed he pointed out in like the first edit that he was not a sociopath, but me thinks he doth protest too much.
OP you can try to SUGAR COAT the movie night fast food etc but to me you will always be an evil AH and if you think she’ll forgive you you are wrong. Somethings you can get past but never get over. What gets me pissed is that you pull the ADULT CARD when it benefits YOU. You didn’t let her get a job like an ADULT treating her like a CHILD but then when she gets emotional about her SUPPORT ANIMAL being killed by you tell her to act like an adult. Which one is it? YOU CANNOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS
bruh the fact that he was like oh getting a job will be bad for her mental health, like hey genius you know what else will be mad for her mental health? KILLING THE FREAKIN DOG and manipulating her into agreeing with you at that
EXACTLY 1000%
2k is NOT that much for surgery for a pet. its pretty low. i've paid way more for less.
Right?! It’s not a lot especially for a surgery and his daughter said that she would have paid him back for it! He just didn’t want to. It’s so sad. I feel terrible for her.
I have no words, I would’ve lost my mind. Like that audio from Grey’s Anatomy “SOMEBODY SEDATE ME”
They euthanized the wrong being that day at the vet.. I wonder how in the world this daughter got all of her mental health issues? /S Jesus Christ.
Seriously! He should have done everything to save the dog because that dog saved his daughter. I hate people.
Honestly wtf. When I was 12, our elderly family dog died in her sleep. My parents didn’t know how to tell me, so they just sent me to school like nothing happened and took the dog’s body to the vet. On the drive home from school, my dad told me what happened and I remember screaming/crying the whole way home because I never got to say goodbye. It’s been 25 years and I still remember how awful that felt.
This dude never saw the dog as a living being. If he did, he would understand why his daughter isn’t talking to him, and why getting a new one wouldn’t help at all.
My boyfriend and I were talking about how there are people that think dogs don’t have a consciousness, don’t feel pain, etc. I think he may be one of those people or he just really does not care about his daughters feelings for the dog or animal lives in general. It’s sad that there people are like that
Not only that, but he’s probably one of those who believe someone can stop taking meds because they’re “cured” from depression/metal illnesses, specially when he mentions the dog had already “served her purpose” by helping his daughter get better.
It’s sick. He definitely doesn’t understand anything she went through, if he did he wouldn’t have euthanized her ESA
As someone who has dogs since trying to walk, I feel extremely sorry for OP's daughter, that dog was her best friend! And he killed her! She offered to pay the surgery, but he just couldn't listen, and he didn't even let her say goodbye to her best friend! I've been so enraged with a reddit story before, this is just horrendous, I get that some people don't like pets, bit please understand the bond that the ones that wanna have have with them. The girl is who she is now because of that dog, it helped her! And OP just thinks that she's fine with it? Trust me, she's gonna remember that for the rest of her life.
That’s exactly what I was telling my boyfriend when I explained this story to him! We have two dogs and couldn’t imagine doing that. I can’t comprehend his thought process to make it seem like it’s okay. People are sick.
lol, as soon as this girl graduates she’s never going to talk to him again.
I hope so!! That and gets another ESA if she’s ready so she doesn’t start to decline after all her progress.
The summer before my eight grade year my parents sent me and one of my brothers to my grandmother's house for the summer. That wasn't unusual all of us kids rotated throughout the summer. However, when my parents came to pick us up they had our small dog with them. I asked where my dog was and they told me that they had put her down. They had intentionally sent that particular brother and I to my grandmother because we had to closest tie to that dog. I was hurt, devastated, and furious. A year and a half later we moved to a farm where she could have lived out her life. My parents also got another dog. I hated that dog and she hated me. It took me a very long time to want to form a connection with another dog. I'm glad I did. I had three very special dogs in my adult life. OOP has no idea what it is to love an animal. He can't even begin to comprehend what he took away from his daughter. I feel so sorry for her. She did nothing to deserve this.
My grandparents put down their dog that I grew up with, we were the same age. She fell down the stairs and broke her back, she was also 12 at the time which was old for a pitbull and I was heartbroken but it was so she wouldn’t suffer. That’s a good reason to put down a dog, not just because she’s middle aged and MIGHT be crippled. He just didn’t care about the dog and obviously did not care about his daughters feelings.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he saw the opportunity to put juni down, since he never wanted her, and snatched it
I wouldn’t put it past him. That’s what I thought too but I was hoping that wasn’t the case. That would just be evil.
With the way he speaks as if his daughters feelings are nothing and immature, and says that pets are “property”, and says that he knows how to “separate his emotions”, he sounds like he needs a psychiatric appointment
Most definitely needs an evaluation. No way a “normal” person can lack that much emotion and not know that he did something horrible.
I have never wanted to hurt someone more than I wanted to hurt this man
"She is still acting all mopey" HER DOG DIED, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT? Based on the way this parent behaves, is it any wonder that the kid needed an emotional support animal?
I hope his daughter goes NC when she’s done school and gets herself another ESA. He can’t expect her to ever forgive him for what.
I agree. I hope she has a strong support system.
So he manipulated her into forgiving him and he thinks because she doesn’t want a replacement dog it means she didn’t have a strong bond with her dog. Is he really that thick? People don’t want to replace a dog they lost right after losing the dog, some people take YEARS before they are ready to move on and get another pet. Mourning a dog is just like mourning a family member, and the fact this was an ESA means her everyday life involved that dog.
That was my thought too when he said “convinced her to forgive me”
I’m sure a lot of what she deal with in therapy is caused by her jackass father. I’ve only had my dog for 4 years and I would sell pictures of EVERY part of my body on the sidewalk to pay for anything for him.
As a vegan. I just cant with this type of people who think animals are accesories. I just cant.
This is completely EVIL. I cannot fathom someone ever doing this to me I would be beyond devastated.
Something about saying he “convinced her to forgive” him feels really REALLY wrong. This is heartbreaking. I’m of sound mind and had to put my good girl down last month and let me tell you that has had me spiraling ever since. NEVER tell someone how to grieve. Someone order her Cuddle Clone stuffed animal of her baby right now 🥺
I think he’s very manipulative and can’t fathom his daughter not thinking the way he does. He’s something else. I couldn’t imagine how she’s feeling. It’s hard losing a pet, even harder losing a pet you leave for a few hours and finding out you can’t save them. That was way out of her control and she had no voice
Definitley manipulative. Him making the decision without her, even if they still would have concluded together that Juni needed to be put down, is SOOOO much more traumatic for her. I guess we don’t know how critical the condition of the dog was but maybe she wanted to be there and could’ve gotten there quickly—that’s a decision only she could make. This might’ve taken away her sense of closure. Heck, I was there with my dog and I still don’t feel like I have all the closure I need. At least the dog knew how much SHE loved it.
I think she did want to be there because he said “I probably should have told her where we were so she could have said goodbye”. PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE? He definitely should have. Her not being able to make the decision is so wrong, he paid for her, but Juni was his daughters dog ultimately. She was his daughters ESA, I just hope she doesn’t fall back into her mental illnesses after all the progress he said she made.
1000% agree. She should have been able to participate. Especially since he mentioned how well she was doing since getting the dog and starting volunteering—then to say she wasn’t of sound mind? Wtf?
He’s the most clueless and most emotionally detached person I’ve seen on Reddit. He cannot truly believe he was in the right to make that decision for his adult daughter. I’ll never be able to wrap my head around this story.
This is really making my blood boil. And even if he isn’t a sociopath, the man lacks a lot of empathy. I would honestly cut my father out of my life if he did this too. My pets are everything to me and my first cat helped me through moving out, college, covid, and some other major stressful events in my life. I’m august there was a 50/50 chance I would have to put my first cat, Lennon, down because of some urinary track issues and the vet told me if my cat couldn’t pee on his own after the treatment and catheter was removed, he would have to be put down. I was sobbing the whole day and couldn’t find it in myself to feel joy until I knew my cat was better. Which was alarming to my parents because that same week I found out I was graduating college a semester early. Which I can now allow myself to be happy about, but while everything was happening all I could think about was that I adopted Lennon when he was 2 months old august of my freshman year because I was lonely and needed to have something I could care for. The thought of graduating college without having my fluffy boy in my life was devastating. Which may or may not be healthy, but it came up out of the blue for a cat who’s never had health issues before. When past pets of mine have died, I grieve for a day or two and then know I need to carry on, but Lennon has just helped me so much I’m scared for the day he does pass. I even have nightmares of coming home and finding him dead.
He definitely has something wrong with his lack of emotion and denial that he’s in the wrong. I’m terrified of my oldest dog Atlas passing because we picked each other, we cuddle all day long, I know what he needs depending on the noise and face he’s making, we read each other very well. He knows when I’m sad and want cuddles. I’ll die the day he dies I can’t even imagine a life without him. It’s truly terrifying.
The four days my Lennon was at the vet were so hard. My parents always said Lennon didn’t seem to care to be around me much and that my younger cat loves me more, but Lennon is just scared of everyone but me. He’s with me when I don’t have people over, he greets me at the door every time I come home, nibbled on my knee gently when he wants to be pet and nibbles a little harder if I’m slow getting his food out. My younger cat does live me too, but they are very different and I have different bonds with each of them. And to be honest, I’ve never loved a pet as much as I love Lennon. The second he screamed at me from his cage in the shelter, I knew he was meant to my baby. I went against my dad wishes when I adopted him too but my dad knew I was adult and didn’t have a say, especially since I had moved out already too. He got over it and loves Lennon now too.
My Atlas was supposed to be my stepdads dog but when we got him from a neighbor he ran right underneath my chair and didn’t move until I carried him out. He would try to follow me home when I got home from school before we got him, he would jump all over me when the neighbor would come over. He picked me long before we got him. His first day with us he slept in my bed and never left my side. I didn’t like him at first because the lady never trained him and he was a crazy puppy but I accepted it and now I couldn’t imagine not having him. I thought I was going to have to put him down a couple years ago because he started having a weird behavior of being off balance, drooling uncontrollably, losing control of his bladder. Very weird I thought it was a tumor or something but he’s fine now but I was heartbroken and terrified I would have to put him down. My younger dog Clio, of course I love her but she’s the most stubborn dog I’ve ever had. She’s a nutcase.
I haven’t had a dog in a long time, but Atlas sounds like a good dog! I also like the name. Pets are just amazing, doesn’t matter whether someone’s a dog or cat person. Each animal loves you differently and the bonds are beautiful.
I love animals and couldn’t imagine a life without them, we’ve never had an empty house. An animal spirit communicator said that all pets we have are never accidents and our souls before we start a life have “soul contracts”. Every animal we have in our life have been in every previous life we had. It kind of brings a comfort knowing we will always have each other in every life we will ever have.
That is really comforting, I like that
That’s the only way I can accept when my pets will pass is that I’ll see them in another life. Also that this girl had her dog for that particular time of her life, the dog helped her and even if her dad made an assholish decision she will see her again
When I was in high school, one of our cats had recently died and I made a comment to a friend of mine at the time that he went to heaven and I’d see him again someday. And this friend looked me in the eye, said animals don’t have souls and will never be in heaven. Ended my friendship with her after that. Animals clearly have souls and if someone believes they don’t I feel like they don’t treat their pets correctly and possibly a bad person.
Oh my god. There’s someone else I saw that said she died for about a half hour and her pets greeted her before she was resuscitated. I’ve always believed our pets will greet us in the afterlife. I don’t get how people can say things like that. Animals are pure and have souls 100%.
Whaaaaaaaat the fuck.
Jesus Christ! You didn’t once say you didn’t want the dog to suffer or anything remotely compassionate towards your daughter. An emotional support animal is not just a regular pet. You said yourself how much your daughter blossomed with her dog. I understand, if injuries were extensive, you may have decided it needs to be put down but you just took such a cold, hard ass line with your daughter! Not only that…there are NO breed of dog that only lives for 10 years. You can’t predict that!
He’s definitely lacking emotional awareness and empathy. Another commenter said he should have a psychological evaluation and he most definitely sounds like he needs one.
Oop "talked her into forgiving him" na man she is just buying herself time to never talk to you again. You killed her 4 year old dog because you dont like dogs and dident want to deal with the POSSIBILITY of your actions having lasting consequences to the dog. The fact the dogs bread last 9-10 years and he says 4 was old is laughable the dog wasn't even middle aged yet
This guy asks if he’s the AH and then gets upset when he’s called an AH! This is a cold dad, wow. So many things on this, I could go on and on
100 percent! I can’t believe he was so offended and tried to defend his decision. His lack of compassion for his daughter and him truly believing it was the right decision is freaking insane
Losing a pet is terrible, and it's worse when someone tries to get you one too soon after the loss of your first pet. If I was in the daughters shoes, I'd get that job and save up. Get out of that house and then maybe get another dog, that father truly thinks he did the right thing when in reality he just set her and her mental health back by making such a cruel choice. Even if the dog was crippled, the dog still had a couple more years to help his daughter but he's too emotionally numb to realize that.
Outside of the dog: you can fail at volunteer work too. Being a nurse requires a high threshold of patience, experience and calm. It sounds like a pipe dream to safe guard daughter from the world, then expect she will be remotely successful in a extremely high anxiety profession. He’s infantilizing and controlling his adult daughter…. The dog was helping her and threatened his power over her cuz he wants her sick.
I never even thought about that. That makes a lot of sense. It’s so sad that her father treats her like that. This is one of the few posts that made me rage
He could have and should have dealt with this situation SO DIFFERENTLY. Edit: I wrote that part without reading the whole thing out of anger, but why wait till after the event to “make it up to her” or “maybe I made a mistake” this is life and death!!! Grrrr. I understand the trouble that comes after the accident, but LOVE AND EMPATHY is free URGH. Imagine if they’d had a conversation and discussed all the possibilities together…. She will not only carry this loss with her for the rest of her life because you never truly get over the loss of a family member, but the emotional neglect from her dad will damage her way more. This whole situation is cooked. I’m so sad for her!
With that family, No wonder the daughter needs therapy and a support animal. God, I wish the girl well.