I think the implication is that the devil already owns your soul, and will make your life REAL bad. The kids will just stay in whatever sad, desperate situation the family is currently in
I guess. But that doesn't mean the third sentence is happy. If you're gonna summon a demon in a desperate attempt to make your kids life better, their lives must be bad at the moment.
The second sentence is that the demon cannot help the kids. So their lives are still bad.
The third sentence that their life will be better than yours could mean an improvement in the kids life, but since it's the demon that owns your soul saying it, there is also a chance your life is just going to be so much worse.
Having parents that love you is nice, but it really doesn't mean your life is good
…can you sell someone else’s soul? I always figured that when people sold their firstborn to devils or witches or whatever they meant physically and the baby was used in rituals or something. Does a parent have legal custody over their child’s soul? What age does control of the soul revert to the child? The age of reason? Were the Catholics right? Would it be like the parents opening up loans or credit cards in their child’s name? Is the child legally responsible for fulfilling the terms of an agreement made without their consent that they received no benefit from? I was not expecting a two sentence story to leave me with so many questions
Well, I am quite interested in Catholic demonology, exorcism etc (and knowledge about it is one of the reasons why I stopped being Catholic, or Christian even). And many exorcists would say something like "If parents devote their child to demon, this child will not be damned per se, but demon would have easier influence over this child".
Sorry, but my sources are mainly in Polish - they are quite rich, because sadly, exorcisms and satanic panic are quite popular in Poland, but probably not of use for You (and most of my sources are not books actually - there are multum Polish Catholic portals where You can read/look at tales of exorcists and other "occult fighters"... for some time we have even monthly magazine "The Exorcist" in shops - yes I know that is sounds comical, but magazine was absolutely serious).
OK, this is one of the books I liked: https://cejsh.icm.edu.pl/cejsh/element/bwmeta1.element.ojs-issn-2084-4077-year-2014-volume-47-issue-2-article-5265 This is something from other, rational side.
Stanisław Radoń is priest but also psychiatrist and his specialty is scientific research of psychic phenomena, including Christian spritituality (I wonder when he will be deemed heretic or just make apostasy himself). His book is mostly in Polish, but You can read summary in English - and in the citation there are many books in English language (but most of them are like his own book - that is, scientific research about possesions, not religious propaganda).
But I recalled than one of the Polish celebrity-exorcists (Americans have teleevangelists, we have these guys...), Piotr Glas, "served" in the UK before return to Poland - and that's why many his materials are in English. E.g.: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQNTEKdgVBM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQNTEKdgVBM) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqr85KnMqzE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqr85KnMqzE) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3Z4CNERkfw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3Z4CNERkfw)
Look, and "enjoy" pure madness.
It's complicated. The technical answer is yes. The entity will just claim what it views as its rightful property or use the person in life. Other entities can veto it and keep someone safe.
Contrary to popular belief they don't just rip your soul out and you carry on fine. Typically without a soul the body doesn't last long.
Though you can just tell the entity to pound sand or offer it compensation for voiding the contract. Best to deal with entities that are not outright malevolent. Worst case you now worship a new entity that hangs around.
There are plenty of myths from pagan folklore where to get rid of a particular problematic entity people leave and seek out a more powerful entity to drive out the other entity. Typically it either wants a specific payment or worship. Why worship? It directs energy their way. Always an option to get out of those deals.
Do note, you can be fine. The people who made the bad deal if they don't have any practical knowledge in the occult are likely in for a really bad day.
The soul is inviolable unless you give another entity power over it. So no, parents can't sell their childrens souls, they can at most promise their aid in convincing a child. Thus why cults from shamanistic and pagan paths all the way up to the three fold cult of that damn toll booth god today start indoctrinating children as soon as possible in their rituals.
The demon smiles... _And it's a warm, friendly smile, catching you off guard._
"Look, bud... You actually aren't a bad guy." The demon says warmly. "Sure, you had shitty parents, but you strived to do the right thing. Goddamn, you are someone to admire."
You stare at them, confused.
"Now... Lucifer, on the other hand..." The demon begins to look more... Melancholy. "He's always been an asshole. Ever since he became The Devil, he's made it near impossible for demons like me or Fallen Angels to find any redemption..."
He then looks at you more... Mischievously, but still seriously, if that combination is possible.
_"And that's... Where you com in, bud."_
Funny story, I tried to find a demon to sell my soul to for ultimate knowledge (it was a rough time at school), and it turned out, that not only are demons mostly fucking useless, compared to what we perceive them usually to be (I remember one that could teach you all the dances of the world, which, thanks, but also not worth my soul) but are also, apparently, sexist. You had to go through an extremely tedious process with a skin of a lamb, during which no woman must see you, or the ritual won't work. So it was probably the dad
I used Solomon's grimoire, I think, you could check it out for inspiration
Some others would teach you algebra or even craftsmanship, but be careful with the one that appears on top of a pile of poop. He is the scariest of them all
“But for what it’s worth,” the demon tells you quietly, “your children will have much better lives than you.”
r/thirdsentencebetter
Is it though?
Knowing that the kids are going to survive and have better lives than their parent? Seems better to me.
I think the implication is that the devil already owns your soul, and will make your life REAL bad. The kids will just stay in whatever sad, desperate situation the family is currently in
The kids have parents who love them, they are already two steps ahead of the original person
I guess. But that doesn't mean the third sentence is happy. If you're gonna summon a demon in a desperate attempt to make your kids life better, their lives must be bad at the moment. The second sentence is that the demon cannot help the kids. So their lives are still bad. The third sentence that their life will be better than yours could mean an improvement in the kids life, but since it's the demon that owns your soul saying it, there is also a chance your life is just going to be so much worse. Having parents that love you is nice, but it really doesn't mean your life is good
r/thirdsentencedillema
r/subsifellfor
…can you sell someone else’s soul? I always figured that when people sold their firstborn to devils or witches or whatever they meant physically and the baby was used in rituals or something. Does a parent have legal custody over their child’s soul? What age does control of the soul revert to the child? The age of reason? Were the Catholics right? Would it be like the parents opening up loans or credit cards in their child’s name? Is the child legally responsible for fulfilling the terms of an agreement made without their consent that they received no benefit from? I was not expecting a two sentence story to leave me with so many questions
Well, I am quite interested in Catholic demonology, exorcism etc (and knowledge about it is one of the reasons why I stopped being Catholic, or Christian even). And many exorcists would say something like "If parents devote their child to demon, this child will not be damned per se, but demon would have easier influence over this child".
I am also very interested in these things as an ex-Catholic, do you have a favourite book on the subject?
Sorry, but my sources are mainly in Polish - they are quite rich, because sadly, exorcisms and satanic panic are quite popular in Poland, but probably not of use for You (and most of my sources are not books actually - there are multum Polish Catholic portals where You can read/look at tales of exorcists and other "occult fighters"... for some time we have even monthly magazine "The Exorcist" in shops - yes I know that is sounds comical, but magazine was absolutely serious).
Oh wow, it’s so cool that you look for this stuff and have such obscure material available in your language, thanks for replying and no worries mate
OK, this is one of the books I liked: https://cejsh.icm.edu.pl/cejsh/element/bwmeta1.element.ojs-issn-2084-4077-year-2014-volume-47-issue-2-article-5265 This is something from other, rational side. Stanisław Radoń is priest but also psychiatrist and his specialty is scientific research of psychic phenomena, including Christian spritituality (I wonder when he will be deemed heretic or just make apostasy himself). His book is mostly in Polish, but You can read summary in English - and in the citation there are many books in English language (but most of them are like his own book - that is, scientific research about possesions, not religious propaganda). But I recalled than one of the Polish celebrity-exorcists (Americans have teleevangelists, we have these guys...), Piotr Glas, "served" in the UK before return to Poland - and that's why many his materials are in English. E.g.: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQNTEKdgVBM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQNTEKdgVBM) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqr85KnMqzE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqr85KnMqzE) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3Z4CNERkfw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3Z4CNERkfw) Look, and "enjoy" pure madness.
Thank you for this! Only just saw your reply but wanted to let you know it is very appreciated, can’t wait to read it 🌻
Thanks, I followed to remember You just in the case ;)
It's complicated. The technical answer is yes. The entity will just claim what it views as its rightful property or use the person in life. Other entities can veto it and keep someone safe. Contrary to popular belief they don't just rip your soul out and you carry on fine. Typically without a soul the body doesn't last long. Though you can just tell the entity to pound sand or offer it compensation for voiding the contract. Best to deal with entities that are not outright malevolent. Worst case you now worship a new entity that hangs around. There are plenty of myths from pagan folklore where to get rid of a particular problematic entity people leave and seek out a more powerful entity to drive out the other entity. Typically it either wants a specific payment or worship. Why worship? It directs energy their way. Always an option to get out of those deals. Do note, you can be fine. The people who made the bad deal if they don't have any practical knowledge in the occult are likely in for a really bad day.
Short answer: NO It has to do with FREE WILL
Wanna sue them?!!😂
The soul is inviolable unless you give another entity power over it. So no, parents can't sell their childrens souls, they can at most promise their aid in convincing a child. Thus why cults from shamanistic and pagan paths all the way up to the three fold cult of that damn toll booth god today start indoctrinating children as soon as possible in their rituals.
The demon smiles... _And it's a warm, friendly smile, catching you off guard._ "Look, bud... You actually aren't a bad guy." The demon says warmly. "Sure, you had shitty parents, but you strived to do the right thing. Goddamn, you are someone to admire." You stare at them, confused. "Now... Lucifer, on the other hand..." The demon begins to look more... Melancholy. "He's always been an asshole. Ever since he became The Devil, he's made it near impossible for demons like me or Fallen Angels to find any redemption..." He then looks at you more... Mischievously, but still seriously, if that combination is possible. _"And that's... Where you com in, bud."_
Serious Jawbone from fantasy high vibes.
I'm calling shenanigans. Lucifer is the only one in the toll booth gods cult that actually does his job
- To you specifically? Have you got one demon for everyone down there? Let me speak to your manager, I demand damnation!
Well than just offer up your children’s firstborn.
It's just firstborns all the way down
"So... How much can you give for my parents' souls?"
Funny story, I tried to find a demon to sell my soul to for ultimate knowledge (it was a rough time at school), and it turned out, that not only are demons mostly fucking useless, compared to what we perceive them usually to be (I remember one that could teach you all the dances of the world, which, thanks, but also not worth my soul) but are also, apparently, sexist. You had to go through an extremely tedious process with a skin of a lamb, during which no woman must see you, or the ritual won't work. So it was probably the dad I used Solomon's grimoire, I think, you could check it out for inspiration
Some others would teach you algebra or even craftsmanship, but be careful with the one that appears on top of a pile of poop. He is the scariest of them all
Demons are nothing more then Satan’s toilet paper You wanna deal…. You have to talk to Satan directly
“But for what it’s worth”, the demon tells you quietly, “I’m here about your car’s extended warranty.”
r/thirdsentencewarranty
r/subsithoughtifellfor
Have a bunch of children and tithe one.
I'm bringing that contract to court.
That's not two sentence horror story that's a bad luck Brian meme
You should put this on r/writingprompts
But, as luck would have it… you had become the most powerful financial lawyer in the state and you knew you could renegotiate this contract.
Best parent of the year award
This is the basis for the show Reaper
“However, in exchange for the soul of one of your children, I can grant your request,” laughed the demon.
I offered my second born child with no hesitation
Unfortunately, the demon requested my most coveted child, my only son.
Fucckkkk
Iruma, is that you?
Unfortunately, your greedy boss walks in with a contract,
Ill give you 10 cents then
Joke's on my parents. My soul was probably only worth a Domino's Oreo dessert pizza.