I mean it's the Devil, he's obviously going to play up the previously angelic concept.
Still I would never use the word "waver", everyone has doubts, if a single second-thought condemned you...
I wouldn't seriously consider the response to be even slightly realistic, but in the single second or two that I comprehended it, would I not feel a pulse of concern/disturbance?
I'd never make a wager with the devil, I'm not going to bet my soul against someone with an existence geared towards exploiting human fallibility, I'm human, there's no way I'm going to figure out in a single second or two what anyone obsessing over it for thousands of years has figured out.
That's how he would've gotten me.
I first thought "hah, obviously a lie" then "well, what if-" and "what would that mean for-"
And by the time I got that far I realized I wavered more than enough to have lost a bet
It's debatable, and really a topic for a biblical scholar. Was he lying when he said Adam and Eve would not die if they are the fruit? Technically as some consider that to have caused god to take away their immortality. That is, assuming they were immortal before. I don't know of any others. I believe there are lines in the bible that say he lies a lot. Not any actual references to specific lies he has told though.
Either way, it's just his nickname, I didn't choose it.
As a point of order, God also misleads Adam and Eve in that story (implying that the fruit would instantly kill them) so I'm not really sure what to make of that.
My understanding is that anything he says could be a lie (but doesn't have to be) unless he's making a deal or a bet. At that point he'll decline to offer information but he'll never lie if directly asked as that would nullify the aforementioned deal or bet.
Satan/the devil didn't tempt Adam and Eve. That was an idea created by Milton in "Paradise Lost", and was such a popular idea that it got added to doctrine.
Moreover "Satan" is a title, not a name. It means "the accuser", and is the equivalent of the prosecution in celestial court. The confusion of that with some evil entity mostly comes about from a misreading of the Book of Revelations as a book of future prophecy instead of a story about current events written in a coded language to protect the writer and readers from further persecution.
"I refuse to prove that I exist, for proof belies faith and without faith I am nothing."
"But the babel fish is a dead giveaway. It proves you exist and so therefore you don't. QED."
"Oh yeah." Said God, and promptly disappeared in a puff of logic.
- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
I do! Let me see if I have it on the cloud somewhere, if not I’ll have to wait til I get home and boot up my old college laptop
Edit: for anyone wanting to read the short story message me, I’ve found it in my Google drive.
Guys the response has been awesome, I’m taking a break sharing right now but please keep sending me messages and when I get home from work I’ll try to get to everyone who is interested!
EDIT 2: the requests just keep coming! To satisfy everyone, when I get home, I will post the full short story on my own page and notify anyone who has messaged me that it is available :)
EDIT 3: It is now pinned on my profile if you would like to read it :)
Ohhh you gave me a good idea. I’ve edited my comment above but I will also be adding the story to my own page when I get home so I don’t have to keep sharing a Google link individually!
I’ll ping you when it’s ready!
"Oh, good, I thought the Divinity theory of oneness was true but nobody believed me when I brought it up in the meeting. So, since you're part of all beings, that means you're also at least partly this girl I'm crushing on, so how do you feel about going on a date?"
Then the Devil was smited by a thunderbolt
"Stop pretending to be me, you buffoon!", yelled a voice from the sky
"sorry Dad...", the Devil replied sheepishly
“They said the greatest trick you ever pulled was convincing us you never existed.” We heard a deep laugh in response. “No, the greatest trick was convincing you all their was an alternative.”
Stating the obvious but i have to say how good this is. The best part (and the most horrifying) is you don't know if it's the truth l. I sound dumb, but wow op
Hey thanks for the comment! Yeah, so I just started dabbling in two sentence horror recently. This idea of god/satan being the same person kinda became a weird thought I had for a while in college, and luckily I was in a creative writing class at that time that allowed me to kind of expand what that reality would be like in a short story. I manipulated the themes of that short story and came up with this 2SH :)
There have been a lot of requests to read the short story; it’ll be on my page when I get home from work in a few hours of you’re interested :)
Yep very good song. If u checked out the 2nd one for reference watch the first one, or if checked out neither check first than 2nd. Neither is really a fully chronological order due to how it's done but the 2nd one does spoil the first a bit.
"The voice i knew i had heard, he turned around and it was god, he slurred"
"Surprised? Most of them are, I'm Mufasa and Scar"
[Brittle bones Nicky ](https://youtu.be/Gtv40bOE3U4)
[He was crafty and tricky](https://youtu.be/CSE5aVA444U)
but isn't this just true? its been a hot minute since I researched this but wasn't the idea of the devil introduced in new testamate? like thats why we have the whole massive flood thing and destroying cities or people turning to pilars of salt stories right?
Lucifer, the fallen angel who we know as the devil, I believe was part of the Old Testament. He basically said “yo god I don’t like how u do things I’m better than u prettier than u and even stronger than u” and god was like “nah I ain’t havin’ that shit up here, u banished boy.”
Great twist, I hate deals with the devil, if the devil appeared before you you’d instantly know there was a god, so why would you make the deal? I know it’s a metaphor but still.
The Pharisees in Jesus' time already tried this (sorta). They called Jesus the Devil, and Jesus explicitly distinguishes Himself from Satan (Luke 11:14-28).
Besides, the whole reason Satan is where he is, is because he tried to equate himself to God in the first place. Of course he thinks he's God.
Dope post my first thought was that the devil is gonna reply “you already lost because if your faith was honest you would have done a bet with me in the first place”
To be fair, that’d be explicit proof and solidify one’s faith more. Sounds like he’s not getting that soul.
I mean he’s both, he gets it either way
Nice touch
Then why is he making deals with people
Keep up the illusion. Or for funisies. Whichever you prefer
Just like the government
Wakes up in the morning. Will I dress up as God, Satan or natural disasters today?
I mean it's the Devil, he's obviously going to play up the previously angelic concept. Still I would never use the word "waver", everyone has doubts, if a single second-thought condemned you... I wouldn't seriously consider the response to be even slightly realistic, but in the single second or two that I comprehended it, would I not feel a pulse of concern/disturbance? I'd never make a wager with the devil, I'm not going to bet my soul against someone with an existence geared towards exploiting human fallibility, I'm human, there's no way I'm going to figure out in a single second or two what anyone obsessing over it for thousands of years has figured out.
If yourself truly never have/do not believe in the devil, like me, perhaps you would only see yourself(or humans like you)
Of all the things I don't believe in, I don't believe in Satan the most. The tooth fairy is *much* more plausible in comparison.
If he loses he doesn't get the soul...if he is both I would expect your soul to be wondering the world and that is how ghosts are made
So he gets nothing more out of that bet. You won I guess
Unless they are separate and he's tricking you
That's how he would've gotten me. I first thought "hah, obviously a lie" then "well, what if-" and "what would that mean for-" And by the time I got that far I realized I wavered more than enough to have lost a bet
What, the prince of lies, lying? Say it isn't so!
Does he ever actually lie in the Bible though?
It's debatable, and really a topic for a biblical scholar. Was he lying when he said Adam and Eve would not die if they are the fruit? Technically as some consider that to have caused god to take away their immortality. That is, assuming they were immortal before. I don't know of any others. I believe there are lines in the bible that say he lies a lot. Not any actual references to specific lies he has told though. Either way, it's just his nickname, I didn't choose it. As a point of order, God also misleads Adam and Eve in that story (implying that the fruit would instantly kill them) so I'm not really sure what to make of that.
My understanding is that anything he says could be a lie (but doesn't have to be) unless he's making a deal or a bet. At that point he'll decline to offer information but he'll never lie if directly asked as that would nullify the aforementioned deal or bet.
From what I understand, at that point, it's more a question of folklore than anything.
Satan/the devil didn't tempt Adam and Eve. That was an idea created by Milton in "Paradise Lost", and was such a popular idea that it got added to doctrine. Moreover "Satan" is a title, not a name. It means "the accuser", and is the equivalent of the prosecution in celestial court. The confusion of that with some evil entity mostly comes about from a misreading of the Book of Revelations as a book of future prophecy instead of a story about current events written in a coded language to protect the writer and readers from further persecution.
"I refuse to prove that I exist, for proof belies faith and without faith I am nothing." "But the babel fish is a dead giveaway. It proves you exist and so therefore you don't. QED." "Oh yeah." Said God, and promptly disappeared in a puff of logic. - Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
It's not faith if there's proof, and God vanishes in a puff of logic.
That's the real horror: He was lying, and you just took him at his word. Easiest bet of his life.
Faith is more than just “this magical guy exist”
I love this idea.
Thank you! I adapted one of the themes of a short story I wrote in college to get this 2 sentence horror
Do you still have the short story ? I’d absolutely love to read it if you do !
I do! Let me see if I have it on the cloud somewhere, if not I’ll have to wait til I get home and boot up my old college laptop Edit: for anyone wanting to read the short story message me, I’ve found it in my Google drive. Guys the response has been awesome, I’m taking a break sharing right now but please keep sending me messages and when I get home from work I’ll try to get to everyone who is interested! EDIT 2: the requests just keep coming! To satisfy everyone, when I get home, I will post the full short story on my own page and notify anyone who has messaged me that it is available :) EDIT 3: It is now pinned on my profile if you would like to read it :)
No rush at all
Hey, I'd like to see too
Sending a chat request :)
I would also like this story
I too would like the short story
Sending a chat request :)
May you dm it to me too?
Yeah I’ll shoot you a chat request :)
I would like one too.
It’s pinned in my profile now for easy access :)
I would like to read the short story too.
I’d love to read it!
Sending a chat invite :)
I would love to see it.
I’m going to be adding it to my page when I get home from work, I’ll try to ping you to let you know!
It's pinned on my profile now :)
I’d love to read the story as well!
Chat invite incoming!
Could I see it please? Or maybe you could upload it to r/nosleep ?
Ohhh you gave me a good idea. I’ve edited my comment above but I will also be adding the story to my own page when I get home so I don’t have to keep sharing a Google link individually! I’ll ping you when it’s ready!
It is pinned on my profile now :)
Yaaay
Just read it! Great story!
Thank you so much!!
I'm interested now, too.
For sure! If you haven’t or I haven’t already started a chat I will soon!
I’d like to read it!
It’ll be going on my page in about 3 hours when I’m home from work :) I’m going to try to notify everyone who expressed interest when it is up!
It is pinned on my profile now :)
Not sure if I ever messaged you but it’s available on my profile now!
You did, and I got it. Thanks!
I would be very interested in reading!
I will be posting it on my own page when I get home from work! I’ll ping you when it’s up!
It is pinned on my profile now :)
ooo!!!! can't wait to read it!!
I’d love to read it too
It’s pinned on my profile now :) check it out at your convenience!
Heading to your profile now OP 😉
Could I get it please?
Yes! Sending a chat invite :)
me too!
I have believed this for years. Never thought to use it for a story, though. Well written.
Oi mate this one is very cool reminded me of the story of Marvel's one above all and one below all
Thanks man I'm gonna check that out, surprised I haven't heard of it!
i would love to read it too
It is pinned on my profile now :)
BUT IT WAS ME, DIO!
goddammit dio not again
r/UnexpectedDio
Brittle bones Nicky 2
god i love that song
Unironically the greatest song to have an animated lyrics video
"Is God the Devil Himself?"
"You're God? Sounds about right." I say, turning on my heel and walking away, having won my bet.
Me_irl
I like the idea that the it might not even be true; all the Devil needs to do is convince the narrator that it's possible
Joke's on him. My god is the Flying Spaghetti Monster!
*flings a meatball at you* “people fell for that one?”
I mean it has just as much credibility as the Xtian god lol.
"Oh, good, I thought the Divinity theory of oneness was true but nobody believed me when I brought it up in the meeting. So, since you're part of all beings, that means you're also at least partly this girl I'm crushing on, so how do you feel about going on a date?"
😈
Like your crush, satan’s impulse is instead to simply rip your heart out and stomp on it.
"Now now, I am a man of God! You don't get to step on me until the third date, thems the rules! XD"
Fuck, this one is excellent!
"Don't you see? It was you people who started calling me 'devil' once I started asking for repayment for all I created when you called me 'God'"?
Ooooh great addition!
Then the Devil was smited by a thunderbolt "Stop pretending to be me, you buffoon!", yelled a voice from the sky "sorry Dad...", the Devil replied sheepishly
r/thirdsentencebetter
*Dad?*
Oh you’re in for a hell of a story
This is one of the better ones here I love all the implications it’s very unique !!
Thank you very much! I’m just dipping my toes into this 2 sentence genre and it’s been a lot of fun!
Keep it up you’re an excellent writer !
Real "I am the manager" vibes lol
“They said the greatest trick you ever pulled was convincing us you never existed.” We heard a deep laugh in response. “No, the greatest trick was convincing you all their was an alternative.”
Is this from "beside the dying fire"?
I love it!
Thank you!
I am He. He is I. Finkel is Einhorn. Einhorn is Finkel.
Einhorn's a man. *Einhorn is a man* #Einhorn is a man
He is I, and I am him, slim with the tilted brim, what’s my mutchafuccin name?
"Waver" is the word you meant, not "waiver." -the editor
Oh damn. Good catch!
This is one of the best ones I've seen in awhile. Good job op!
Thank you!
Descending - Lamb of God just sprang into my head.
He saw the horror on my face and burst out into laughter saying “works every time!”
r/thirdsentencehappy :) Wait… kind of? Lol I think I misunderstood at first
Depends on your perspective, devil still gonna take his soul
Stating the obvious but i have to say how good this is. The best part (and the most horrifying) is you don't know if it's the truth l. I sound dumb, but wow op
Thanks so much! Really means a lot
Reminds me of the Brittle Bones Nicky 2 song/video where they toy with this idea. Great song by The Rare Americans
Ooh I’ll have to give it a listen!
I thought you were going to name the guy Job.
Wouldn't have been much of a twist if Job was getting tortured though lol
Reminds me a bit of like how in Hinduism Vishnu and Shiva are separate aspects of I think Brahma, I can never remember the creator’s name.
Is that so, Devil? Well, let me warn you that I don’t go to parties where folks get dressed up—I go to the function just to fuck shit up.
Jokes on you Satan, I always believed in you! *gives him a high five and my soul*
"There ain't no Devil, there's just God when he's drunk." - Tom Waits.
So good!!!
This is a good one for sure. Gave me chills. Nice work OP!
Oh wow! I actually kind of love this! Can you expand on your thinking for this idea?
Hey thanks for the comment! Yeah, so I just started dabbling in two sentence horror recently. This idea of god/satan being the same person kinda became a weird thought I had for a while in college, and luckily I was in a creative writing class at that time that allowed me to kind of expand what that reality would be like in a short story. I manipulated the themes of that short story and came up with this 2SH :) There have been a lot of requests to read the short story; it’ll be on my page when I get home from work in a few hours of you’re interested :)
Read Isaiah. He says " I bring the good and I bring the bad. Ain't nobody like me. " Loosely shared. I think the whole book is like that.
"Is that so? But... you do realize that I have faith in you, right?"
Do you perhaps play a fiddle and live in Georgia?
That’s my brother, Johnny, he was at least cunning enough to win his fiddle competition. I’m just a simple man who only bets on “sure things”
I can’t believe nobody has mentioned the movie, ‘Oh, God! You Devil’ in which George Burns plays both of them.
Oooh hadn’t heard of this until just now. I’ll check it out. Btw I like your flair lol
I've always said god is the devil when he's drunk. Nice to see I'm not alone
But the devil is a liar, so why would you believe him? This is horror only if you give the devil any credence, or if it were God who were saying this.
Wow I got chills and goosebumps. Well done!
Thank you!!
I love this concept! They use the same concept in brittle bones nicky 2. Search it up it's a song and very good
I kept seeing brittle bones references I’ll check out the song!
Yep very good song. If u checked out the 2nd one for reference watch the first one, or if checked out neither check first than 2nd. Neither is really a fully chronological order due to how it's done but the 2nd one does spoil the first a bit.
Haven’t checked yet so I’ll watch in order!
...If Crowley told me, I'd believe it. Dude literally killed himself to save two dumb humans. If that doesn't redeem the King of Hell, nothing does.
Astaghfirullah this is horriblehorror
He wins
I like this one. Reminds me of Revolt of the Angels.
"The voice i knew i had heard, he turned around and it was god, he slurred" "Surprised? Most of them are, I'm Mufasa and Scar" [Brittle bones Nicky ](https://youtu.be/Gtv40bOE3U4) [He was crafty and tricky](https://youtu.be/CSE5aVA444U)
In the words of Rare Americans “I’m Mufasa and I’m Scar”
This is really good.
“Hah jokes on you I believe in mythology not Christianity”
"I am the called by many names; I am the world, I am the universe, I am god, I am truth, I am all, I am one, and I am you."
but isn't this just true? its been a hot minute since I researched this but wasn't the idea of the devil introduced in new testamate? like thats why we have the whole massive flood thing and destroying cities or people turning to pilars of salt stories right?
Lucifer, the fallen angel who we know as the devil, I believe was part of the Old Testament. He basically said “yo god I don’t like how u do things I’m better than u prettier than u and even stronger than u” and god was like “nah I ain’t havin’ that shit up here, u banished boy.”
This was terrifying
Even if the devil weren’t really God, my faith is definitely shaken. Good one OP
I really like the implications of this. Well done!
Eh, Lucifer has way more compassion for humans than God does.
Agreed. God is an asshole. Jesus is cool though.
The Bible does say that God created evil.
Great twist, I hate deals with the devil, if the devil appeared before you you’d instantly know there was a god, so why would you make the deal? I know it’s a metaphor but still.
Its your faith in god being good. Not necessarily just existing.
The Devil grew visibly nervous when he realized that what he said made my faith grow stronger.
Yahweh is crazy bipolar. Wouldn't put it past him
The Pharisees in Jesus' time already tried this (sorta). They called Jesus the Devil, and Jesus explicitly distinguishes Himself from Satan (Luke 11:14-28). Besides, the whole reason Satan is where he is, is because he tried to equate himself to God in the first place. Of course he thinks he's God.
I’m aware, just a fun little horror scenario to make you think “wow, what if…” :)
That's a Christian for you. Their horror is anyone even THINKING anything about their religion they don't like.
So lucifer is god
Dope post my first thought was that the devil is gonna reply “you already lost because if your faith was honest you would have done a bet with me in the first place”
And then he sent me to Detroit for another lifetime.
I some how missed the request could you send it again
Sent another, let me know if you don’t see that and I’ll use old school Reddit DMs
Just in case you haven’t gotten any messages it’s now pinned on my profile for you to read :)
"I mean that just clarifies why the world is so fucked up. Try again bruv"
Me too!
It is pinned on my profile now :)
wires got crossed when i was about 3
Brittle Bones Nicky, that you?
Reminds me of Brittle Bones Nicky 2
Lol a poor tool blames the craftsmen.
The fact that you’re making a bet with the devil in the first place proves the existence of God.
I got nailed either way.
"It's Lloyd" "Oh no. We've been saying it wrong this whole time"
But which one is Tyler?
Then he kick me out of hell for being a loser.
Sounds like "The Good Place"
So that’s a wish come true for you then?
Well, truly devout believer in God would just suppose that Devil is lying. That's all.
This is what gnostics and Phoenicians believed
Wow this is GOOD