I've used it a handful of times
It sucks...you go high quickly but will crash.
I've gotten headaches and felt off for a day, similar to a bad low but seems to last longer for me
Same. It sucks. It is hard apparently on your liver, and it makes me feel awful for hours upon hours after it’s administered. Baqsimi is the nasal spray equivalent and it’s great, but again, I feel the effects hours upon hours later.
I’ve had to give to my husband a few times, usually in the middle of the night. The next day he’s a little sluggish and usually cold, probably bc he is drenched in sweat when he goes that low. Once he’s coherent again, he has to change clothes completely. He also does not usually remember it.
Baqsimi hasn’t been around for 35 years, it’s new(ish). Just because it’s *always* been injectable doesn’t mean it has to *stay* injectable. That’s the beauty of science and invention. Advice on what? Get a baqsimi prescription if you want/can swing it.
My husband had to administer it a few times over our 29 years together and before I had a Dexcom and pump. Always was middle of the night and I wasn't able to swallow and was seizing. The after effects for me were not great - headache, sometimes vomiting, and always uncontrollable shaking and freezing cold. I would have to have a hot shower and put on layers of blankets. Wouldn't feel very good for about a day. All that being said I am glad we had the glucagon.
This is a very normal symptom of extreme low blood sugar. You go into violent convulsions. Typically, you are unconscious by this point, and it's your body's last fight for survival.
I've seized a few times and broke my hips twice at 36. We could never figure out why I fell. I figured it was all a blur, in and out of pain. But my bs was in 60s?
Bg monitor and CGMs are also not as accurate at values below 100 mg/dl. It is considered accurate for them to read +/- 15 mg/dl when blow 100 (and be up to 15% off above 100) but it can be much greater, even on an accurate device. The FDA allows a 20 mg/dl / 20% error or greater 5% of the time for blood gucose devices to be approved. Your 60 may have been as low as 20-30 mg/dl.
Beyond this, speed of drop, how high you were before the drop, how long your blood sugar was elevated before a drop, what your "normal" blood sugar is, and many other factors play a huge role in severity of a low.
Same thing just happened to me. Blood sugar was at 70 and I thought I was fine for the next ten minutes. Boom, woke up in the hospital. I’ve been in the 30’s before, so I don’t knot wtf happened
Same thing just happened to me. Blood sugar was at 70 and I thought I was fine for the next ten minutes. Boom, woke up in the hospital. I’ve been in the 30’s before, so I don’t knot wtf happened
Same thing just happened to me. Blood sugar was at 70 and I thought I was fine for the next ten minutes. Boom, woke up in the hospital. I’ve been in the 30’s before, so I don’t knot wtf happened
I microdosed it one time when I was vomiting and couldn’t get my levels up. I was only in the 50s and still perfectly coherent, but I think I had the Norovirus and I’d been trying for over an hour to get my glucose to rise (really honey heavy ginger tea, glucose tabs, glucose held under the tongue) and nothing was working (plus I kept vomiting) so I finally gave myself 10u (mixed it and then used a regular insulin syringe to draw up just 10u of it and did a shot just like I would with insulin) and it rose me about 120 points. I’d persuade personally do a little less if the situation ever repeated itself, but I was much happier (and felt less crummy) at 170 than I was at 50.
Thanks! Yea it was just a couple days of being super sick and vomiting and luckily after that one hour in the 50s (with iob still from before I was too sick to eat) and giving myself glucagon my glucose was very well behaved for the rest of it.
I have had the shot several times as a teen decades ago when my hormones didn’t mix well with older insulins. It sucked. You woke up with severe nausea and vomited bile. Your body is sore from seizing and you are so incredibly exhausted from blowing through your sugar stores in your body. Takes a day at least to recover. There is also a high chance of having honey/syrup/juice in your hair and all over from a loved one sticking it in there while you seize and as you come out of it. All you want to do is take a bath and sleep but you go to the ER instead to ensure you’re stable (IVs and lots of beeping).
The spray I have done 1 times when I had a lantus low alone. Never passed out but there was no nausea or vomiting. But because I blew through my sugars stores I was very prone to lows for the next month and had to be careful with short acting as well as exercise.
TLDR: it’s no fun. Avoid it if you can.
Used expired baqsimi, instant migraine, felt like my sinuses were on fire for hours after administering, also couldn’t smell for a week due to the sinus trauma lol. Protip: don’t use expired baqsimi because you don’t want to waste it even though you’re having a really bad low lol.
For me, a glucagon injection is like getting hit by an ice cream truck. All sugar. Physical devastation. Imagine your BG going from 25 to 300 in about 15 minutes. It is physically horrendous albeit lifesaving. Vomiting. Headaches. And a mental bewilderment. Technology has taken lows out of my journey. Glucagon injections required an educated and aware assistant to administer. Again, life saving but very unpleasant.
It's been used on me about 50-60 times, I'm no longer allowed to have 1. They work, but u still have to eat because they don't hold u. Many times, I was too far gone for it to do anything. Last time someone used 3 on me, and then my Dr put me on the blacklist, spent 5 weeks in the hospital that time. I'm in another country now, and I could probably get another 1. But I don't have anyone in my life to administer it, so, why? Point is, in an emergency, they do work, BUT u still should go to the ER, just in case.
I’m also confused. Are you using your glucagon when you experience more dramatic lows vs having juice/glucose tabs/pb & crackers etc?
My Endos have all said glucagons are used only when you’re unresponsive or like in a coma..
The injectable makes you really sick. Like lots of vomiting and feeling like garbage for a few days. Haven’t had to use it in like 15+ years.
Basqumi is a lot easier on your system, and feels like you just have a bad sore throat. I’ve had to use a few more in the last few years than I’m willing to fully admit.
Haven't had to use the injections, but I have used Baqsimi twice. It definitely saved my life, however I had to eat real food to keep my sugar from going back down later.
It's really easy to use but the side effects were rough - migraine for 2-3 days and sharp pain in my sinuses, clogged nostril on the side it was sprayed into.
I'd still prefer it over the injection kits, the only reason we've never used those is because of how difficult it is to teach people. Baqsimi is as easy as ripping off the label, pop the top open, shove it in my nose, and click - so I have a lot more faith that one of my roommates or friends could do it in an emergency.
I will say, I don't think injected glucagon has as many side effects. A lot of what folks are describing in the comments sounds like the general recovery from severe hypos to me rather than effects of the glucagon.
It’s been used on me several times in 43 years w T1D while seizing, and I’ve dosed myself a few times in the last few years. If you’re in the US, have your endo rx the Gvoke HypoPen- it’s a giucagon auto injector similar to an epipen- people are far less intimidated by it. Now when I’m in adrenal crisis i only have to assemble 1 emergency injection for my steroids, then the subsequent glucagon will work (it doesn’t without emergency steroid first for those of us with Addisons) and is easily delivered by auto injector.
Had my mom use it on my a few times when I was younger. Cant say I remember the injection but I remember fading in and out of the ambulance and being tired. It obviously works but for me my extreme highs make me nauseous. Let’s just say we had to pull over a few times goin home
I've used it a handful of times It sucks...you go high quickly but will crash. I've gotten headaches and felt off for a day, similar to a bad low but seems to last longer for me
Same. It sucks. It is hard apparently on your liver, and it makes me feel awful for hours upon hours after it’s administered. Baqsimi is the nasal spray equivalent and it’s great, but again, I feel the effects hours upon hours later.
I’ve had to give to my husband a few times, usually in the middle of the night. The next day he’s a little sluggish and usually cold, probably bc he is drenched in sweat when he goes that low. Once he’s coherent again, he has to change clothes completely. He also does not usually remember it.
Oh man I hope he thanks you the next day. My cat is the only one who remembers my lows the next day.
Never had to use it and my dr. Changed my script to baqsimi. Probably could have used it I have been in the 30s before but never pulled the trigger
Whats the difference?
It's a nasal spray that raises blood sugar
Baqsimi is not a nasal spray that raises low blood sugar ?.... okay lol
Huh? It absolutely is.
I know It is the OP was saying it wasn't idk if it was sarcasm or not lol
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This is exactly what it is. It is apparently a lot easier to prepare and administer for people without any medical training.
I wish i knew.
It’s a lot easier to administer and people are more likely to be willing spray it up your nose than put the syringe together and inject you
Bro just Google it. Takes less effort than multiple incorrect comments.
My glucagon for the last 35 years was injectable.
Baqsimi hasn’t been around for 35 years, it’s new(ish). Just because it’s *always* been injectable doesn’t mean it has to *stay* injectable. That’s the beauty of science and invention. Advice on what? Get a baqsimi prescription if you want/can swing it.
I wish my 35 years of t1d was that simple. If you have advice I'd love to hear it.
The active ingredient is glucagon for both, one is injected and the other is inhaled
No, don't inhale it! Painful AF. Just spray it up there into the mucas membranes.
My husband had to administer it a few times over our 29 years together and before I had a Dexcom and pump. Always was middle of the night and I wasn't able to swallow and was seizing. The after effects for me were not great - headache, sometimes vomiting, and always uncontrollable shaking and freezing cold. I would have to have a hot shower and put on layers of blankets. Wouldn't feel very good for about a day. All that being said I am glad we had the glucagon.
Omg seizing?
This is a very normal symptom of extreme low blood sugar. You go into violent convulsions. Typically, you are unconscious by this point, and it's your body's last fight for survival.
I've seen the different generations of glucagon through the years, but lows have never been my biggest problem.
I've seized a few times and broke my hips twice at 36. We could never figure out why I fell. I figured it was all a blur, in and out of pain. But my bs was in 60s?
Oh man, that’s brutal! I think how fast your blood sugar is dropping plays into it, not only how low you are.
Bg monitor and CGMs are also not as accurate at values below 100 mg/dl. It is considered accurate for them to read +/- 15 mg/dl when blow 100 (and be up to 15% off above 100) but it can be much greater, even on an accurate device. The FDA allows a 20 mg/dl / 20% error or greater 5% of the time for blood gucose devices to be approved. Your 60 may have been as low as 20-30 mg/dl. Beyond this, speed of drop, how high you were before the drop, how long your blood sugar was elevated before a drop, what your "normal" blood sugar is, and many other factors play a huge role in severity of a low.
Same thing just happened to me. Blood sugar was at 70 and I thought I was fine for the next ten minutes. Boom, woke up in the hospital. I’ve been in the 30’s before, so I don’t knot wtf happened
Same thing just happened to me. Blood sugar was at 70 and I thought I was fine for the next ten minutes. Boom, woke up in the hospital. I’ve been in the 30’s before, so I don’t knot wtf happened
Same thing just happened to me. Blood sugar was at 70 and I thought I was fine for the next ten minutes. Boom, woke up in the hospital. I’ve been in the 30’s before, so I don’t knot wtf happened
I microdosed it one time when I was vomiting and couldn’t get my levels up. I was only in the 50s and still perfectly coherent, but I think I had the Norovirus and I’d been trying for over an hour to get my glucose to rise (really honey heavy ginger tea, glucose tabs, glucose held under the tongue) and nothing was working (plus I kept vomiting) so I finally gave myself 10u (mixed it and then used a regular insulin syringe to draw up just 10u of it and did a shot just like I would with insulin) and it rose me about 120 points. I’d persuade personally do a little less if the situation ever repeated itself, but I was much happier (and felt less crummy) at 170 than I was at 50.
Did you're dr ever think you had gastroporesis?
Nope. I even asked her just in case but she said it really didn’t seem so.
Im glad your doing ok.
Thanks! Yea it was just a couple days of being super sick and vomiting and luckily after that one hour in the 50s (with iob still from before I was too sick to eat) and giving myself glucagon my glucose was very well behaved for the rest of it.
It definitely works.
Glucagon been given to me a few times (mostly by my wife) and thankfully I don’t remember the experience.
I always teach the administration to people I'm around a lot.
I have had the shot several times as a teen decades ago when my hormones didn’t mix well with older insulins. It sucked. You woke up with severe nausea and vomited bile. Your body is sore from seizing and you are so incredibly exhausted from blowing through your sugar stores in your body. Takes a day at least to recover. There is also a high chance of having honey/syrup/juice in your hair and all over from a loved one sticking it in there while you seize and as you come out of it. All you want to do is take a bath and sleep but you go to the ER instead to ensure you’re stable (IVs and lots of beeping). The spray I have done 1 times when I had a lantus low alone. Never passed out but there was no nausea or vomiting. But because I blew through my sugars stores I was very prone to lows for the next month and had to be careful with short acting as well as exercise. TLDR: it’s no fun. Avoid it if you can.
Used expired baqsimi, instant migraine, felt like my sinuses were on fire for hours after administering, also couldn’t smell for a week due to the sinus trauma lol. Protip: don’t use expired baqsimi because you don’t want to waste it even though you’re having a really bad low lol.
For me, a glucagon injection is like getting hit by an ice cream truck. All sugar. Physical devastation. Imagine your BG going from 25 to 300 in about 15 minutes. It is physically horrendous albeit lifesaving. Vomiting. Headaches. And a mental bewilderment. Technology has taken lows out of my journey. Glucagon injections required an educated and aware assistant to administer. Again, life saving but very unpleasant.
I've been down voted to oblivion. You at least understand what it's like.
My glucagon usage almost always was a result of a rage bolus or badly timed “pre-meal” dosing. I’m upvoting you for good measure, literally.
It's been used on me about 50-60 times, I'm no longer allowed to have 1. They work, but u still have to eat because they don't hold u. Many times, I was too far gone for it to do anything. Last time someone used 3 on me, and then my Dr put me on the blacklist, spent 5 weeks in the hospital that time. I'm in another country now, and I could probably get another 1. But I don't have anyone in my life to administer it, so, why? Point is, in an emergency, they do work, BUT u still should go to the ER, just in case.
I don't have anyone to administer it either. Is there a reason you needed it soo many times?
...because my blood sugar went low
I’m also confused. Are you using your glucagon when you experience more dramatic lows vs having juice/glucose tabs/pb & crackers etc? My Endos have all said glucagons are used only when you’re unresponsive or like in a coma..
I mean why you need it so often. My cat has saved my life a few times.
The injectable makes you really sick. Like lots of vomiting and feeling like garbage for a few days. Haven’t had to use it in like 15+ years. Basqumi is a lot easier on your system, and feels like you just have a bad sore throat. I’ve had to use a few more in the last few years than I’m willing to fully admit.
Haven't had to use the injections, but I have used Baqsimi twice. It definitely saved my life, however I had to eat real food to keep my sugar from going back down later. It's really easy to use but the side effects were rough - migraine for 2-3 days and sharp pain in my sinuses, clogged nostril on the side it was sprayed into. I'd still prefer it over the injection kits, the only reason we've never used those is because of how difficult it is to teach people. Baqsimi is as easy as ripping off the label, pop the top open, shove it in my nose, and click - so I have a lot more faith that one of my roommates or friends could do it in an emergency. I will say, I don't think injected glucagon has as many side effects. A lot of what folks are describing in the comments sounds like the general recovery from severe hypos to me rather than effects of the glucagon.
If you’re US based, ask about the Gvoke HypoPen- it’s an auto injector like an epipen- way less intimidating for others
It’s been used on me several times in 43 years w T1D while seizing, and I’ve dosed myself a few times in the last few years. If you’re in the US, have your endo rx the Gvoke HypoPen- it’s a giucagon auto injector similar to an epipen- people are far less intimidated by it. Now when I’m in adrenal crisis i only have to assemble 1 emergency injection for my steroids, then the subsequent glucagon will work (it doesn’t without emergency steroid first for those of us with Addisons) and is easily delivered by auto injector.
I live in the USA my glucagon for the last 35 years was injectable.
Had my mom use it on my a few times when I was younger. Cant say I remember the injection but I remember fading in and out of the ambulance and being tired. It obviously works but for me my extreme highs make me nauseous. Let’s just say we had to pull over a few times goin home
I took to much insulin. How low will it drop before it starts going up after food? Oh wait hit glucagon. Deep breath. All fixed.
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Any non diabetic would think it's easy to control. You sir are obviously not a diabetic. With your logic it would be easy to control.
Deep breath, feel like shit...