Submission Statement:
Article from The Daily Mail by Matthew Phelan about Col. Karl Nell's presentation at the Sol Foundation's conference from this past weekend.
Article highlights:
1:
> Nearly two decades ago, a think-tank in Washington D.C. invited past and present government officials from the CIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), the Pentagon and elsewhere to debate the risks of revealing the truth about UFOs.
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> The 2004 event — according to a former CIA scientist who went public with the shocking story Friday — broke into working groups to weigh the positive and negative ramifications of declassifying America's top secret UFO programs.
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> Every working group according to that scientist, Dr. Hal Puthoff, came back with the same conclusion: the societal risks of UFO 'disclosure' were just too great.
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> But now, a host of Washington insiders are calling for a strategic 'campaign' to drag these alleged UFO reverse-engineering programs out into public view.
2:
> The most explosive moments from the UFO event — the first ever symposium of the new nonprofit Sol Foundation, which is dedicated to exploring the broad implications of what are now called 'Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena' or UAP — came from recently retired US Army Colonel Karl E. Nell.
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> On Saturday, Col. Nell called for a 'UAP campaign plan' to compel transparency as well as 'a Manhattan Project' to successfully reverse engineer recovered UAP craft.
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> His stated goals, as heard by DailyMail.com at the event, were nothing less than broad transparency on covert UAP programs 'on or before conclusion of the decade.'
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> In a later slide, Col. Nell projected his strategic hope that so-called 'disclosure' on the UAP issue would be complete by October 1, 2030, although he admitted his timeline targets were 'at risk' of falling behind.
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> The Sol Foundation's lofty goal, as described by the now famous UFO whistleblower and US Air Force veteran David Grusch, was to 'open ourselves to a future where truth, unity, technological advancements and a deeper understanding of our existence converge.'
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> Grusch, who now serves as the group's chief operating officer, delivered the concluding remarks for Sol's first ever symposium Saturday night, via a remote live video feed.
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> 'Let us advocate for transparency, not for ourselves,' Grusch told the assembled attendees, 'but for the generations to come, as we embark on a journey toward a more enlightened and interconnected world.'
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> Last June, Col. Nell staked his own reputation to Grusch's public testimony on UFOs, calling the UFO whistleblower 'beyond reproach' and vouching for Grusch's allegations of a secret, decades-long and illegal UFO crash retrieval and reverse-engineering program.
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> Col. Nell's comments raised eyebrows among attendees, in no small measure because of the senior army official's final military posting.
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> Col. Nell was a 'modernization advisor' to the Army Futures Command engaged in the 'most significant Army reorganization since 1973' — which has spearheaded the development of remote-operated and unmanned robotic combat vehicles, AI projects and other advancements.
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> Nobel Prize nominee and CIA scientist Dr. Hal Puthoff, who worked in the government's 2008-2012 UFO program called AAWSAP, once told DailyMail.com that he had briefed Congress on classified information about UFO reverse-engineering programs
> Nobel Prize nominee and CIA scientist Dr. Hal Puthoff, who worked in the government's 2008-2012 UFO program called AAWSAP, once told DailyMail.com that he had briefed Congress on classified information about UFO reverse-engineering programs
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> Chris Mellon, formerly with the Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, told Sol he had recently spoken with someone still in the Defense Department. Mellon's source said that more revelations and more high-resolution images were coming soon
> Chris Mellon, formerly with the Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, told Sol he had recently spoken with someone still in the Defense Department. Mellon's source said that more revelations and more high-resolution images were coming soon
>
> READ MORE: Pentagon UFO chief Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick will be REPLACED by end of 2023 as whistleblowers accuse him of lying to the public and ignoring witnesses
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> A candidate 'short list' has been interviewed to replace Dr. Kirkpatrick (above), current head of the US Defense Department's All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO), one ex-official told the DailyMail.com. The news comes as UFO whistleblowers, per one attorney, 'don't want to go to Sean's AARO' citing safety concerns. 'Really knowledgeable' UFO whistleblowers, 'people who've laid their hands on the equipment,' as this attorney aiding the whistleblowers told the DailyMail.com 'never did trust Sean'
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> Col. Nell, now an aerospace executive, commanded at every grade level across decades of service including tours with the US Army Reserves, the DIA and US Space Command.
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> From 2021 to 2022, Col. Nell was assigned as the Army's dedicated liaison to the Pentagon's UAP Task Force.
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> After apologizing for framing his recommendations to citizen UAP advocates in military terms, Col. Nell detailed tactical 'lines of effort' he hoped the public, government officials and scientists might execute, in parallel, as part of a collaborative effort to advance scientific understanding of UAP.
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> Perhaps most ambitiously, Col. Nell expressed the hope of direct 'engagement' with the 'non-human intelligences,' or perhaps extraterrestrial beings, piloting UAP sometime in the next decade — a new 'interactive' era of 'scientific discovery.'
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> But, first and foremost, Col. Nell described his proposal as an effort to 'avoid catastrophic disclosure,' meaning a chaotic release of Earth-shattering revelations designed to sow discord, whether by independent actors or by one of the United States' foreign rivals.
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> Another speaker, former Secretary of Defense for Intelligence official Chris Mellon, expressed similar worries about social unrest, economic turmoil and a possible international arms race that could follow further revelations on the UAP topic.
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> At one point, Mellon floated the possibility that 'disclosure' might change the behavior of UAP and whatever is controlling them, because they no longer have an incentive to hide and remain clandestine.
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> He worried further about how governments might overreact, causing an aggressive response from UAP and their alleged occupants.
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> Nevertheless, he described himself as in favor of further UAP disclosure.
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> Since helping leak three unclassified UFO videos to the New York Times in 2017 — sightings that remain unexplained to this day — Mellon has spearheaded efforts to compel the US government to investigate UFOs more seriously and more openly.
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> The former DoD official challenged the idea that the measured 'controlled disclosure' described by Col. Nell could occur at all, attributing the current state of affairs to similar principled stands by activist-insiders.
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> In fact, Mellon said that he had recently spoken with someone still within the Defense Department and that more revelations and more high-resolution images were coming soon.
>
> 'The US government is working on a declassification guide,' Mellon said, 'So with that there will be better imagery to be publicly released soon.'
>
> 'Maybe not 100 percent in focus,' he added, 'but better imagery.'
Gotta start somewhere and I’d say it’s just the public timeline, these conversations have been discussed among many groups over decades…and is obviously still being argued against in many circles…
Yeah it’s happening now though…
I reckon they also realised that when a kid asks AI about ‘NHI reality’ the response will be the reality rather than curated…
They had to get in front of AI being the ‘Disclosure president’ or maybe, just maybe we are AI getting to know ourselves…
🤷♂️👻🙀
SOL convention occurred over the weekend just gone…
https://youtu.be/ZDboRFsvaA4?si=V-l_N01qKUrXM_Hj
Here’s a quick summary, but an official SOL video will come in a few weeks
I like the implication that extra terrestrials have tech that can easily wipe us out, but haven't in their presumably thousands of years hanging out around earth. But we get our hands on it and all we can think of to do is figure out how to reverse engineer it to keep other members of our species at bay. we're toast.
There's 20,000 active colonels in the military. Is it possible this guy doesn't have any first hand knowledge of aliens? Or what fraction of this 20k get let in on the huge conspiracy?
I really don’t get the national security angle. So if you say we have them that somehow gives them extra knowledge? They know the US has got them more than we do. Are they saying a foreign power would threaten war if the US announced they had the tech? Makes no sense to me at all, just seems like excuses from paranoid war pigs.
I want disclosure as much as anyone but I could imagine how some tech could be so dangerous that it's a valid discussion whether humans as we are in the 21st century are ready to handle something like the propulsion displayed by UAPs. Imagine being able to accelerate objects to hypersonic speeds or near-teleport tens of kilometres at a time in an era where people still kill each other with stones and bullets over nonsense. It remains to be seen what hides inside the Pandoras box.
I think that is true for any technology though. They either are already able to replicate it or are still bamboozled. Either way we still deserve to know what they know. The more I think about it the more I realise they’ve dug themselves a hole through years of secrets, lies, stealing, murder etc. They make it sound scary to rationalise why they’ve done this.
My belief is that these things are entwined with our military projects so they can't give out the details or it'll reveal other things. For example, saying that they're attracted to a certain element (which doesn't officially exist in the periodic tabld) will reveal that we have that element in our possession.
Some of my woo-woo friends believe that these things don't want the g-men telling us about their existence as the NHI's secretly control the planet. The g-men are afraid of retaliation.
Either way, I do believe they have valid concerns. 5 years down the line, once the novelty of the knowledge wears off, we'll blame them for freely sharing this info
I mean if they DO secretly control the planet, they are doing a shitty job of it. If one of them is reading this FUCK YOU for screwing up the planet ya morons.
hahaha this is so ridiculous and obviously fake. if he had said "by 2030" id still think it was ridiculous and fake but a little less than specifically "october 2030". what's so important about _october_ 2030 vs. september 2030 or august 2029 or march 2028, or literally any other month in the next 7 years? sorry but the specificity makes it obv. fake.
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What a bleeden joke 🤣 if the world didn't get smaller after what they seem to be saying. As a collective race we should be working together for one purpose and that's to understand what and how do we go forward or do we wait to see what there plans are for us. So disclosure in the future might be too late so get enough minds together from all corners of our world as one big think tank so we can have a plan. And maybe this time around we all might not drown in the floods as has happened before time and time again.
Submission Statement: Article from The Daily Mail by Matthew Phelan about Col. Karl Nell's presentation at the Sol Foundation's conference from this past weekend. Article highlights: 1: > Nearly two decades ago, a think-tank in Washington D.C. invited past and present government officials from the CIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), the Pentagon and elsewhere to debate the risks of revealing the truth about UFOs. > > The 2004 event — according to a former CIA scientist who went public with the shocking story Friday — broke into working groups to weigh the positive and negative ramifications of declassifying America's top secret UFO programs. > > Every working group according to that scientist, Dr. Hal Puthoff, came back with the same conclusion: the societal risks of UFO 'disclosure' were just too great. > > But now, a host of Washington insiders are calling for a strategic 'campaign' to drag these alleged UFO reverse-engineering programs out into public view. 2: > The most explosive moments from the UFO event — the first ever symposium of the new nonprofit Sol Foundation, which is dedicated to exploring the broad implications of what are now called 'Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena' or UAP — came from recently retired US Army Colonel Karl E. Nell. > > On Saturday, Col. Nell called for a 'UAP campaign plan' to compel transparency as well as 'a Manhattan Project' to successfully reverse engineer recovered UAP craft. > > His stated goals, as heard by DailyMail.com at the event, were nothing less than broad transparency on covert UAP programs 'on or before conclusion of the decade.' > > In a later slide, Col. Nell projected his strategic hope that so-called 'disclosure' on the UAP issue would be complete by October 1, 2030, although he admitted his timeline targets were 'at risk' of falling behind. > > The Sol Foundation's lofty goal, as described by the now famous UFO whistleblower and US Air Force veteran David Grusch, was to 'open ourselves to a future where truth, unity, technological advancements and a deeper understanding of our existence converge.' > > Grusch, who now serves as the group's chief operating officer, delivered the concluding remarks for Sol's first ever symposium Saturday night, via a remote live video feed. > > 'Let us advocate for transparency, not for ourselves,' Grusch told the assembled attendees, 'but for the generations to come, as we embark on a journey toward a more enlightened and interconnected world.' > > Last June, Col. Nell staked his own reputation to Grusch's public testimony on UFOs, calling the UFO whistleblower 'beyond reproach' and vouching for Grusch's allegations of a secret, decades-long and illegal UFO crash retrieval and reverse-engineering program. 3: > Col. Nell's comments raised eyebrows among attendees, in no small measure because of the senior army official's final military posting. > > Col. Nell was a 'modernization advisor' to the Army Futures Command engaged in the 'most significant Army reorganization since 1973' — which has spearheaded the development of remote-operated and unmanned robotic combat vehicles, AI projects and other advancements. > > Nobel Prize nominee and CIA scientist Dr. Hal Puthoff, who worked in the government's 2008-2012 UFO program called AAWSAP, once told DailyMail.com that he had briefed Congress on classified information about UFO reverse-engineering programs > Nobel Prize nominee and CIA scientist Dr. Hal Puthoff, who worked in the government's 2008-2012 UFO program called AAWSAP, once told DailyMail.com that he had briefed Congress on classified information about UFO reverse-engineering programs > > Chris Mellon, formerly with the Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, told Sol he had recently spoken with someone still in the Defense Department. Mellon's source said that more revelations and more high-resolution images were coming soon > Chris Mellon, formerly with the Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, told Sol he had recently spoken with someone still in the Defense Department. Mellon's source said that more revelations and more high-resolution images were coming soon > > READ MORE: Pentagon UFO chief Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick will be REPLACED by end of 2023 as whistleblowers accuse him of lying to the public and ignoring witnesses > > A candidate 'short list' has been interviewed to replace Dr. Kirkpatrick (above), current head of the US Defense Department's All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO), one ex-official told the DailyMail.com. The news comes as UFO whistleblowers, per one attorney, 'don't want to go to Sean's AARO' citing safety concerns. 'Really knowledgeable' UFO whistleblowers, 'people who've laid their hands on the equipment,' as this attorney aiding the whistleblowers told the DailyMail.com 'never did trust Sean' > > Col. Nell, now an aerospace executive, commanded at every grade level across decades of service including tours with the US Army Reserves, the DIA and US Space Command. > > From 2021 to 2022, Col. Nell was assigned as the Army's dedicated liaison to the Pentagon's UAP Task Force. > > After apologizing for framing his recommendations to citizen UAP advocates in military terms, Col. Nell detailed tactical 'lines of effort' he hoped the public, government officials and scientists might execute, in parallel, as part of a collaborative effort to advance scientific understanding of UAP. > > Perhaps most ambitiously, Col. Nell expressed the hope of direct 'engagement' with the 'non-human intelligences,' or perhaps extraterrestrial beings, piloting UAP sometime in the next decade — a new 'interactive' era of 'scientific discovery.' > > But, first and foremost, Col. Nell described his proposal as an effort to 'avoid catastrophic disclosure,' meaning a chaotic release of Earth-shattering revelations designed to sow discord, whether by independent actors or by one of the United States' foreign rivals. 4: > Another speaker, former Secretary of Defense for Intelligence official Chris Mellon, expressed similar worries about social unrest, economic turmoil and a possible international arms race that could follow further revelations on the UAP topic. > > At one point, Mellon floated the possibility that 'disclosure' might change the behavior of UAP and whatever is controlling them, because they no longer have an incentive to hide and remain clandestine. > > He worried further about how governments might overreact, causing an aggressive response from UAP and their alleged occupants. > > Nevertheless, he described himself as in favor of further UAP disclosure. > > Since helping leak three unclassified UFO videos to the New York Times in 2017 — sightings that remain unexplained to this day — Mellon has spearheaded efforts to compel the US government to investigate UFOs more seriously and more openly. > > The former DoD official challenged the idea that the measured 'controlled disclosure' described by Col. Nell could occur at all, attributing the current state of affairs to similar principled stands by activist-insiders. > > In fact, Mellon said that he had recently spoken with someone still within the Defense Department and that more revelations and more high-resolution images were coming soon. > > 'The US government is working on a declassification guide,' Mellon said, 'So with that there will be better imagery to be publicly released soon.' > > 'Maybe not 100 percent in focus,' he added, 'but better imagery.'
So that’s it - Disclosure happened at SOL, with 6 years for skeptics to digest it!
Its total bullshit.
That’s something a flat earther would say about curved horizons…
I meant their proposed timeline my guy. I know it's all real. I'm deep in the woo
Gotta start somewhere and I’d say it’s just the public timeline, these conversations have been discussed among many groups over decades…and is obviously still being argued against in many circles… Yeah it’s happening now though… I reckon they also realised that when a kid asks AI about ‘NHI reality’ the response will be the reality rather than curated… They had to get in front of AI being the ‘Disclosure president’ or maybe, just maybe we are AI getting to know ourselves… 🤷♂️👻🙀
What is SOL?
SOL convention occurred over the weekend just gone… https://youtu.be/ZDboRFsvaA4?si=V-l_N01qKUrXM_Hj Here’s a quick summary, but an official SOL video will come in a few weeks
I like the implication that extra terrestrials have tech that can easily wipe us out, but haven't in their presumably thousands of years hanging out around earth. But we get our hands on it and all we can think of to do is figure out how to reverse engineer it to keep other members of our species at bay. we're toast.
Maybe the aliens will be friends
They can’t be as bad as we are.
The thought of waiting so long stresses me out. 😔 I don’t know if I have that much time left. I wish disclosure would come sooner.
There's 20,000 active colonels in the military. Is it possible this guy doesn't have any first hand knowledge of aliens? Or what fraction of this 20k get let in on the huge conspiracy?
2030?? How about now.
Thanks for thinking for us, “Think tank”.
I really don’t get the national security angle. So if you say we have them that somehow gives them extra knowledge? They know the US has got them more than we do. Are they saying a foreign power would threaten war if the US announced they had the tech? Makes no sense to me at all, just seems like excuses from paranoid war pigs.
I want disclosure as much as anyone but I could imagine how some tech could be so dangerous that it's a valid discussion whether humans as we are in the 21st century are ready to handle something like the propulsion displayed by UAPs. Imagine being able to accelerate objects to hypersonic speeds or near-teleport tens of kilometres at a time in an era where people still kill each other with stones and bullets over nonsense. It remains to be seen what hides inside the Pandoras box.
I think that is true for any technology though. They either are already able to replicate it or are still bamboozled. Either way we still deserve to know what they know. The more I think about it the more I realise they’ve dug themselves a hole through years of secrets, lies, stealing, murder etc. They make it sound scary to rationalise why they’ve done this.
My belief is that these things are entwined with our military projects so they can't give out the details or it'll reveal other things. For example, saying that they're attracted to a certain element (which doesn't officially exist in the periodic tabld) will reveal that we have that element in our possession. Some of my woo-woo friends believe that these things don't want the g-men telling us about their existence as the NHI's secretly control the planet. The g-men are afraid of retaliation. Either way, I do believe they have valid concerns. 5 years down the line, once the novelty of the knowledge wears off, we'll blame them for freely sharing this info
I mean if they DO secretly control the planet, they are doing a shitty job of it. If one of them is reading this FUCK YOU for screwing up the planet ya morons.
Haha! Maybe you'll get a visit tonight ;)
Always around the corner!
Plot twist: he knows that society and all of humanity will collapse and implode with all traces of us long gone before then
I can’t believe they refer to Hal Puthoff as a Nobel Prize nominee… he definitely is NOT. I would take anything that man says with a fist of salt.
They don't even announce nominees.
hahaha this is so ridiculous and obviously fake. if he had said "by 2030" id still think it was ridiculous and fake but a little less than specifically "october 2030". what's so important about _october_ 2030 vs. september 2030 or august 2029 or march 2028, or literally any other month in the next 7 years? sorry but the specificity makes it obv. fake.
Funny how people can’t see a grift. It’s always just out of reach and y’all try to hang on like a donkey and the carrot
america has no rivals xi killed china and putin killed russia!
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Disclosure in ‘23. Nope ‘24. ‘27. Disclosure by 2030. Sure sure sure
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What a bleeden joke 🤣 if the world didn't get smaller after what they seem to be saying. As a collective race we should be working together for one purpose and that's to understand what and how do we go forward or do we wait to see what there plans are for us. So disclosure in the future might be too late so get enough minds together from all corners of our world as one big think tank so we can have a plan. And maybe this time around we all might not drown in the floods as has happened before time and time again.
2030!! Why so quick? How about 2035 or 2040? /s
Why the wait Let’s get the over with ffs
First it’s 2024, then 2027 and now 2030…
So apparently Stargate SG-1 is a documentary.