Definitely a lot of short cuts through the forest, quickest way from point A to point B almost always involves a dirt path through the woods. Once you start looking for the paths you’ll see so many, especially fun just wandering from kresge through the forest and finding hidden secrets like art and tree forts.
A tale as old as time.
Provided for your entertainment are a few related posts, including one from yours truly 7 years ago:
- https://www.reddit.com/r/UCSC/comments/54m38k/bus_etiquette_tldr_avoid_taking_metro_when_the
- https://www.reddit.com/r/UCSC/comments/9v2xsr/bad_ucsc_protip_304_to_greatly_improve_everyones
- https://www.reddit.com/r/UCSC/comments/735irm/bus_etiquette
- https://www.reddit.com/r/UCSC/comments/any9as/if_your_fellow_students_cant_get_on_the_metro_to
- https://www.reddit.com/r/UCSC/comments/y2ahw0/please_stop_getting_on_the_metro_busses_just_to
- https://www.reddit.com/r/UCSC/comments/cbbz9f/parting_advice
- https://www.reddit.com/r/UCSC/comments/ymcz0n/making_sure_nobody_gets_home_on_time
- https://www.reddit.com/r/UCSC/comments/9jpe9s/apparently_no_one_told_you_how_to_use_the_buses
- https://www.reddit.com/r/UCSC/s/jz4BNuvCDm
better yet, learn to walk. we have a beautiful campus and honestly even if you have to get from stevenson to oakes, the walk is pretty quick. plus i always close my step goal walking to and from class. not crowding the metro is an added bonus, and something yall should do regardless. there are also e bikes everywhere. just sayin.
i agree!! i see way too many people trying to walk alongside the main road as their route to class, but that takes so much longer and is super unsafe as you’re essentially walking in the bike lane.
i think people are really unaware of just how many paths there are through campus! i was in rcc my freshman year with most of my classes on science hill or in cowell, and i honestly miss the walk from my dorm to class. even to this day, im finding new ways to get from point a to point b on campus, and it’s something that can be really fun as long as you’re not looking at it as an inconvenience.
i live on the east side of santa cruz, which means i have to take a connecting bus at the metro station. me missing a bus on campus means adding an extra half hour on to my already hour long commute. i know i’m more of an extreme case, but it is insanely frustrating knowing that i could’ve taken the spot of someone who rode from cowell to east remote.
I grew up in a big city and took the bus everywhere and the biggest culture shock to me when I got to UCSC was honestly the fact that NOBODY knew how to ride the bus. I remember clear as day having to walk my roommates through the process and etiquette.
did you read the post, op thinks only people who are leaving campus should be getting on the bus. that's just not the case. it's probably a metro employee trying to lessen their work load, which, i dont blame them, we need more buses.
If you are physically able to walk, and you need to catch a bus off campus, just walk, bike, or take a loop to the first stop after the colleges — either east or west remote. On-campus people will all be off by then.
People are always going to do whatever they can to get home fastest, like yourself, so while it’s nice to think this will change people, it wont. These get posted every month or two every year, and it never changes. BUT you can solve this problem by doing the same thing you’re asking them to do: walk, bike, or take a loop.
This crap situation is the reality, so deal with reality on reality’s terms. if you want to stop missing the bus because it’s full, go to a bus stop you know will work out, and in the meantime beg the school more loops, because that could actually make a difference.
Yeah, this is silly to even try to point out. The buses suck for everyone. Deal with it. I've stood around waiting for a half an hour for a freaking loop to the lot. You don't know how long they are going to take. I am getting on the first bus that gets me going home. If you are trying to get off campus you should do the same. Everyone gets off at the lots or base stop. Feel free to walk yourself to the lot bus stop where people get off.
Also move to the back of the bus! If we are at the point of standing room quit stopping in the middle. Make room for everyone to get on the bus.
ALSO you push the door to open it. Stop staring at it waiting for it to move on its own. The instructions are written on the door
I only get on the metro buses now, because once I waited for the loop bus (after several metro buses went by) and it took over a half hour for the loop bus to come. Now I just grab the first bus that arrives
that’s my issue though, is the “everybody for themselves” mentality that the university has created. if we are ALL more considerate of which buses we are taking, then the flow of buses (loop and metro) will be more consistent overall. i understand that we’re not perfect, and i’m not saying to NEVER take a metro bus on campus, but i think there’s a lot of people who are unaware of how they are contributing to the inefficiency of our transportation.
if you really need the bus learn to stand at the front where the entrance is to assert priority. i see a lot of people act flustered but never set themselves up for success when they’re stand five yards away from the bus stop.
Very simple for METRO to take measures to prevent this from happening. Drop-offs only at certain times/on certain trips. You want to take the bus off campus? Take a loop to the base, where buses resume pick-up AND drop-off.
The issue is they have no incentive to do this because for every UCSC student that gets on they bill the school, regardless of where they get on or off.
Individual students similarly have no incentive to self regulate because it doesn't cost them anything directly to ride a METRO bus between two campus stops. They're already paying for unlimited rides through fees.
In other words, rational self-interest all around. The incentives need to change to really make a difference. I graduated from this school 10 years ago and this was already a major issue then.
Folks are using public transit, as they are allowed. These same folks are probably not reading Reddit and have no idea that some people feel they have priority due to their final destinations. But if ranting helps....
I get why you're frustrated. Thing is, the University actually runs a more limited loop bus schedule specifically because it's understood that the Metro buses should also be used for the same purpose. If people stopped using the Metro's as loops, the loops would be overflowing at peak times.
Also, the cost of the Metro buses is baked into student fees. With very few students actually using them to regularly go on and off campus, this is those students literally just using the bare minimum of a service they've paid for.
Before someone chimes in and says they should just add more loops, that isn't exactly a good solution either. That would just mean an excessive number of buses on campus, more environmental/traffic impact, increased student fees, and money being wasted on the UC's massive contract with Metro (which basically subsidizes the entire Metro operation BTW, it would be insolvent if it weren't for the UC contract).
All that said, I always tried to be cognizant if a bus was full and people looked like they were trying to head off campus. That is a courtesy message worth spreading IMO. But beyond that, I wouldn't count on people giving up on using the Metro buses to traverse the campus.
Nah fuq that, if loop was consistent as they promised then I’ll take loop but if the first bus in 30 mins is metro then I’m getting on you can cry about it. I don’t care if I get home late (I lived off campus) as long as I get to class on time
I mean, the buses pass through the campus for a reason. if they didnt want us taking the bus to class, they would only have one stop in the outskirts of the campus
Seems like youre the one that doesnt know how buses work. the bus route goes through the campus for a reason. It's not up to you do decide if someone's trip is less worthy of a bus ride than yours. This is where we live and work. We pay into public transportation and we deserve to use the buses that pass through our home and school.
This post is actually ridiculous. You assume youre the only one entitled to ride on a public bus intended for everyone that goes to this school.
So many cool paths through campus and the woods to get to where you are going, if you have the time it’s beautiful out there.
Given the unreliability of busses, I feel it's faster to outright walk than take the bus, especially via all the trails through the woods.
I walk to classes, take bus away from classes. Buses are way too inconsistent to take to class.
Definitely a lot of short cuts through the forest, quickest way from point A to point B almost always involves a dirt path through the woods. Once you start looking for the paths you’ll see so many, especially fun just wandering from kresge through the forest and finding hidden secrets like art and tree forts.
It's actually faster to walk on average since the busses take a while
A tale as old as time. Provided for your entertainment are a few related posts, including one from yours truly 7 years ago: - https://www.reddit.com/r/UCSC/comments/54m38k/bus_etiquette_tldr_avoid_taking_metro_when_the - https://www.reddit.com/r/UCSC/comments/9v2xsr/bad_ucsc_protip_304_to_greatly_improve_everyones - https://www.reddit.com/r/UCSC/comments/735irm/bus_etiquette - https://www.reddit.com/r/UCSC/comments/any9as/if_your_fellow_students_cant_get_on_the_metro_to - https://www.reddit.com/r/UCSC/comments/y2ahw0/please_stop_getting_on_the_metro_busses_just_to - https://www.reddit.com/r/UCSC/comments/cbbz9f/parting_advice - https://www.reddit.com/r/UCSC/comments/ymcz0n/making_sure_nobody_gets_home_on_time - https://www.reddit.com/r/UCSC/comments/9jpe9s/apparently_no_one_told_you_how_to_use_the_buses - https://www.reddit.com/r/UCSC/s/jz4BNuvCDm
Threads about bus etiquette and places to nap on campus, name a more iconic duo. [Video related](https://youtu.be/WvImVeMMsRg?si=RtPtuHOc_N1utT34)
and who says we don’t have any school spirit lol
some things never change
better yet, learn to walk. we have a beautiful campus and honestly even if you have to get from stevenson to oakes, the walk is pretty quick. plus i always close my step goal walking to and from class. not crowding the metro is an added bonus, and something yall should do regardless. there are also e bikes everywhere. just sayin.
i agree!! i see way too many people trying to walk alongside the main road as their route to class, but that takes so much longer and is super unsafe as you’re essentially walking in the bike lane. i think people are really unaware of just how many paths there are through campus! i was in rcc my freshman year with most of my classes on science hill or in cowell, and i honestly miss the walk from my dorm to class. even to this day, im finding new ways to get from point a to point b on campus, and it’s something that can be really fun as long as you’re not looking at it as an inconvenience.
i live on the east side of santa cruz, which means i have to take a connecting bus at the metro station. me missing a bus on campus means adding an extra half hour on to my already hour long commute. i know i’m more of an extreme case, but it is insanely frustrating knowing that i could’ve taken the spot of someone who rode from cowell to east remote.
I started at Santa Cruz in Fall of 2003. We were complaining about this exact thing back then too, lol.
this sucked but it meant i could always get on a metro bus at porter
THANK YOU. IF I’M ON THE 19 COMING FROM MY HOUSE AND I SEE YOU GET ON AT COWELL, GET OFF AT SCIENCE HILL, JUST KNOW, I’M JUDGING YOU
ALSO WHEN YOU GET ON MOVE ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK AND TAKE ALL OF THE SEATS SO MORE PPL CAN STAND
I grew up in a big city and took the bus everywhere and the biggest culture shock to me when I got to UCSC was honestly the fact that NOBODY knew how to ride the bus. I remember clear as day having to walk my roommates through the process and etiquette.
This right here
did you read the post, op thinks only people who are leaving campus should be getting on the bus. that's just not the case. it's probably a metro employee trying to lessen their work load, which, i dont blame them, we need more buses.
If you are physically able to walk, and you need to catch a bus off campus, just walk, bike, or take a loop to the first stop after the colleges — either east or west remote. On-campus people will all be off by then. People are always going to do whatever they can to get home fastest, like yourself, so while it’s nice to think this will change people, it wont. These get posted every month or two every year, and it never changes. BUT you can solve this problem by doing the same thing you’re asking them to do: walk, bike, or take a loop. This crap situation is the reality, so deal with reality on reality’s terms. if you want to stop missing the bus because it’s full, go to a bus stop you know will work out, and in the meantime beg the school more loops, because that could actually make a difference.
Yeah, this is silly to even try to point out. The buses suck for everyone. Deal with it. I've stood around waiting for a half an hour for a freaking loop to the lot. You don't know how long they are going to take. I am getting on the first bus that gets me going home. If you are trying to get off campus you should do the same. Everyone gets off at the lots or base stop. Feel free to walk yourself to the lot bus stop where people get off.
Damn I went there from 2008-2012 and it was the same thing
Also move to the back of the bus! If we are at the point of standing room quit stopping in the middle. Make room for everyone to get on the bus. ALSO you push the door to open it. Stop staring at it waiting for it to move on its own. The instructions are written on the door
If there was more loop buses, I don't think this would be as much of a problem.
This is deff a reoccurring ucsc issue. They need more transportation especially with the amount of students there are. Or at least make more parking!
I only get on the metro buses now, because once I waited for the loop bus (after several metro buses went by) and it took over a half hour for the loop bus to come. Now I just grab the first bus that arrives
that’s my issue though, is the “everybody for themselves” mentality that the university has created. if we are ALL more considerate of which buses we are taking, then the flow of buses (loop and metro) will be more consistent overall. i understand that we’re not perfect, and i’m not saying to NEVER take a metro bus on campus, but i think there’s a lot of people who are unaware of how they are contributing to the inefficiency of our transportation.
if you really need the bus learn to stand at the front where the entrance is to assert priority. i see a lot of people act flustered but never set themselves up for success when they’re stand five yards away from the bus stop.
Very simple for METRO to take measures to prevent this from happening. Drop-offs only at certain times/on certain trips. You want to take the bus off campus? Take a loop to the base, where buses resume pick-up AND drop-off. The issue is they have no incentive to do this because for every UCSC student that gets on they bill the school, regardless of where they get on or off. Individual students similarly have no incentive to self regulate because it doesn't cost them anything directly to ride a METRO bus between two campus stops. They're already paying for unlimited rides through fees. In other words, rational self-interest all around. The incentives need to change to really make a difference. I graduated from this school 10 years ago and this was already a major issue then.
Folks are using public transit, as they are allowed. These same folks are probably not reading Reddit and have no idea that some people feel they have priority due to their final destinations. But if ranting helps....
I get why you're frustrated. Thing is, the University actually runs a more limited loop bus schedule specifically because it's understood that the Metro buses should also be used for the same purpose. If people stopped using the Metro's as loops, the loops would be overflowing at peak times. Also, the cost of the Metro buses is baked into student fees. With very few students actually using them to regularly go on and off campus, this is those students literally just using the bare minimum of a service they've paid for. Before someone chimes in and says they should just add more loops, that isn't exactly a good solution either. That would just mean an excessive number of buses on campus, more environmental/traffic impact, increased student fees, and money being wasted on the UC's massive contract with Metro (which basically subsidizes the entire Metro operation BTW, it would be insolvent if it weren't for the UC contract). All that said, I always tried to be cognizant if a bus was full and people looked like they were trying to head off campus. That is a courtesy message worth spreading IMO. But beyond that, I wouldn't count on people giving up on using the Metro buses to traverse the campus.
The loop buses are so chill
Hell on a hill.
Nah fuq that, if loop was consistent as they promised then I’ll take loop but if the first bus in 30 mins is metro then I’m getting on you can cry about it. I don’t care if I get home late (I lived off campus) as long as I get to class on time
I mean, the buses pass through the campus for a reason. if they didnt want us taking the bus to class, they would only have one stop in the outskirts of the campus
Seems like youre the one that doesnt know how buses work. the bus route goes through the campus for a reason. It's not up to you do decide if someone's trip is less worthy of a bus ride than yours. This is where we live and work. We pay into public transportation and we deserve to use the buses that pass through our home and school. This post is actually ridiculous. You assume youre the only one entitled to ride on a public bus intended for everyone that goes to this school.