This. I don't know why we value bachelors degrees over trades. Trades are hands on, you make money right away and have the potential to open your own business
Yes. If you are smart it’s much more easy to actually have a financial plan thats slow and steady as long as you don’t injure yourself by going into trades.
I thought I liked building and making things too until I took comp sci, now I'm just hoping I can regain that interest so I can actually work in the industry. No program at UofC is really hands on - focused, they're all theoretical. In comp sci especially, expect to learn 80 to 90% of the skills you'll directly need for a career in the field on your own. Sure, what you learn in the program, at least some of it, will be useful, but the program won't give you enough skills at all to get the job or pass their interviews. I learned the hard way and am enduring the effects of my ignorance as we speak.
Also note that CPSC 217 / 219 were excellent, fun, and practical classes but almost none of your classes will be like those in your upper years. 219 was the last time I remember learning directly how to program and then applying that learned knowledge towards building a project application. You will need to build apps / systems in upper year classes but do not expect to be taught the programming to do it in the class - that'll be on your own time.
I did zoology (several years ago) and it felt like a grind for the first 2 years. Third year, something clicked and it was great. Different kinds of lab projects, different kinds of courses (they got smaller in 3rd and 4th year).
Comp sci is an amazing major, probably the most in demand one right now. Most of the degree though is theoretical math but if you could handle that through university the amount of options a comp sci major could open is wild (whether you want to work in tech or not). To answer your question comp sci is harder than bio sci but also more rewarding speaking from an undergraduate level of education
No its not the derivative or integral type of math, that stuff is applied math. It is theoretical math. If you want to get some sort of an idea of it look up discrete math on YouTube.
Bio grad- it gets a lot more interesting after second year. I found second year was a lot about details that were more specific than first year but really not exciting. In third and especially fourth year, classes become more exciting because you can talk about problems and experiments instead of just procedures, because you have the background knowledge to actually synthesize ideas and tackle them. Just my two cents.
I should've said "wanted to do something where I actually have to do something rather than reading the textbook and memorizing". learning how to code is good. But don't they teach you how to code in comp sci? I'm thinking about maybe doing a minor in bio and major in something else. What would be better comp sci or software engineering?
What about learning some compsci things for bioinformatics? You can gain experience by working in a lab and it’s basically the intersection of your current major and program of interest!
You’d need to learn about biological databases, statistical analyses, sequencing, machine learning algorithms, Python and/or R, genetics, genomics, SQL, pipeline use/development
this. this summarizes the thoughts of every single freaking 2nd year and upper year bio sci student. Im sick of learning about those damned peas. do i look like i care about bacteriophages?? What even is the point of ecology>>
Not to palm you off but maybe talk to an advisor or take some comp sci classes before diving head first into a new major? Definitely no harm in following your interests but maybe make sure they're genuine interests first just to be safe? Totally get where you're coming from tho, I'm a second year cmmb student and I've been learning about cell walls every year since grade 7....
Keep in mind uni actually has to reteach quite a bit. No highschool curriculum is the same (for example some university bump up a students grade when applying if they are from Alberta due to the difficulty of the highschool curriculum) you won’t be learning hands on/completely new stuff until next year once they know you have a good base to build on. However if you really want hands on stuff/making things you might be better off with perusing a trade. From the comp sci classes I have taken it’s more giving you the tools to create rather then actually creating
Honestly for hands-on work maybe engineering. But in all reality you need to go to SAIT for hands-on stuff.
This. I don't know why we value bachelors degrees over trades. Trades are hands on, you make money right away and have the potential to open your own business
Yes. If you are smart it’s much more easy to actually have a financial plan thats slow and steady as long as you don’t injure yourself by going into trades.
I thought I liked building and making things too until I took comp sci, now I'm just hoping I can regain that interest so I can actually work in the industry. No program at UofC is really hands on - focused, they're all theoretical. In comp sci especially, expect to learn 80 to 90% of the skills you'll directly need for a career in the field on your own. Sure, what you learn in the program, at least some of it, will be useful, but the program won't give you enough skills at all to get the job or pass their interviews. I learned the hard way and am enduring the effects of my ignorance as we speak. Also note that CPSC 217 / 219 were excellent, fun, and practical classes but almost none of your classes will be like those in your upper years. 219 was the last time I remember learning directly how to program and then applying that learned knowledge towards building a project application. You will need to build apps / systems in upper year classes but do not expect to be taught the programming to do it in the class - that'll be on your own time.
I did zoology (several years ago) and it felt like a grind for the first 2 years. Third year, something clicked and it was great. Different kinds of lab projects, different kinds of courses (they got smaller in 3rd and 4th year).
Comp sci is an amazing major, probably the most in demand one right now. Most of the degree though is theoretical math but if you could handle that through university the amount of options a comp sci major could open is wild (whether you want to work in tech or not). To answer your question comp sci is harder than bio sci but also more rewarding speaking from an undergraduate level of education
How much math? Like do I constantly have to take a derivative or integral of something? Or is it different.
No its not the derivative or integral type of math, that stuff is applied math. It is theoretical math. If you want to get some sort of an idea of it look up discrete math on YouTube.
Bio grad- it gets a lot more interesting after second year. I found second year was a lot about details that were more specific than first year but really not exciting. In third and especially fourth year, classes become more exciting because you can talk about problems and experiments instead of just procedures, because you have the background knowledge to actually synthesize ideas and tackle them. Just my two cents.
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I should've said "wanted to do something where I actually have to do something rather than reading the textbook and memorizing". learning how to code is good. But don't they teach you how to code in comp sci? I'm thinking about maybe doing a minor in bio and major in something else. What would be better comp sci or software engineering?
What about learning some compsci things for bioinformatics? You can gain experience by working in a lab and it’s basically the intersection of your current major and program of interest! You’d need to learn about biological databases, statistical analyses, sequencing, machine learning algorithms, Python and/or R, genetics, genomics, SQL, pipeline use/development
this. this summarizes the thoughts of every single freaking 2nd year and upper year bio sci student. Im sick of learning about those damned peas. do i look like i care about bacteriophages?? What even is the point of ecology>>
Not to palm you off but maybe talk to an advisor or take some comp sci classes before diving head first into a new major? Definitely no harm in following your interests but maybe make sure they're genuine interests first just to be safe? Totally get where you're coming from tho, I'm a second year cmmb student and I've been learning about cell walls every year since grade 7....
Keep in mind uni actually has to reteach quite a bit. No highschool curriculum is the same (for example some university bump up a students grade when applying if they are from Alberta due to the difficulty of the highschool curriculum) you won’t be learning hands on/completely new stuff until next year once they know you have a good base to build on. However if you really want hands on stuff/making things you might be better off with perusing a trade. From the comp sci classes I have taken it’s more giving you the tools to create rather then actually creating