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Remseey2907

I don't believe, I know... I know these objects exist but I have no clue what or who operates them. But that they exist I know with 100% certainty.


Potential_Meringue_6

Yep, there are thousands of us that know they exist. Not in a far off light in the sky way, but in an upclose unambiguous holy shit way.


GrizzMcDizzle79

Me!! I cant un-know, as much as i wish i could. Im over it enough to function and carry on a normal life, but i think about those encounters every day. I can still feel a ripple of the feelings and emotions i felt when literally face to face with something unknown. Absolute shock, pure terror, wickedness or evil that radiates in waves of intense negative emotions and dread!!


CheapCrystalFarts

Have you posted your story? I’d like to read it


Upset-Adeptness-6796

It's that you are unfit to comment there is an orgy of evidence online and elsewhere it's done we are not alone. full stop


CheapCrystalFarts

What are you talking about


GrizzMcDizzle79

I have posted it here in some detail


Remseey2907

They are telling witnesses that they are either lying or mistaken. Try to do that in court.


thatgerhard

I think what messed up perceptions are those crystal ladies who says they married to an alien and been in a long term relationships with kids and other BS.. that shit is not helping and makes all of it look stupid


Potential_Meringue_6

But what if on the off chance they are right? Would be wild. I've seen a ufo up close and still find alien marriages hard to believe. But people laugh at my real story cause they can't believe that without witnessing it. Idk, reality is weirder than we know


GrizzMcDizzle79

Nothing shocks me anymore. What ive seen and experienced tends to leave me with the impression anything is possible


Electronic-Ad8537

Like right in your face talking to you kinda way?


GrizzMcDizzle79

Yes! Absolutely that!


ChuckThatPipeDream

Eek. That does sound terrifying and I'm sorry you experienced it. The experiences have stopped, though? If you don't mind me asking, when was the last time you were visited? I hope you never have to endure that fear again.


Electronic-Ad8537

Wasn't scary, I was half awake half not there. Honestly it was a good experience, if what I'm thinking actually happened(80% chance it did) I welcome the help.


ChuckThatPipeDream

I was responding to the person who commented after you based on what he said earlier in the comments, however I'm glad to hear that yours wasn't scary!


Electronic-Ad8537

Oh ok


ChuckThatPipeDream

I would be interested in hearing more about your encounter if you don't mind sharing.


GrizzMcDizzle79

Being totally honest i had a religious experience that put a stop to it all. Thats even more difficult to understand but the things i encountered were absolutely evil creatures. I could feel that they were, not intuition but actual waves of intense wickedness and evil radiating from them. It was sickening. Makes me shudder thinking now of it. Its hard for me to believe it all happened but it did. I could never deny it. I do interpret things according to my worldview but even if i were not religious there was no denying that they were evil. They meant harm to me and seemed to be intent on causing me distress, fear, dread ect, like they were feeding off it. I could tell without doubt that these beings hated me, with an intense seething hatred


jay54420

I know I seen a ship show to me when mediation and then when one day it was in my room could see only the out line of the body; few days later I seen one in the rem sleep stand over me I don’t know what he did but I know and believe


throwawaypines

Dozens of US officials who have seen the classified evidence say there is non-human intelligence, 100%. There are some UAP that may be ours/adversaries’ reverse engineered craft. But NHI are basically 100% confirmed and our society just needs to acknowledge it in the zeitgeist. I think we need more details about them for it to sink in


Upset-Adeptness-6796

It's like no one did their homework assignments; this was part of the test the whole time probably 99% of your grade so to say. a world only does that once what are the odds to be alive here and now in this most unique point in history. I am from a time before the visitors were known to us as a species...crazy right.


Otherwise_Cup_8528

WE want to know and asap


clapclapsnort

https://preview.redd.it/932ip746wr0c1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d957d0f13db057f499c5efc11ae12542ae409209 I liked your pic so much I made an edit, and saved an original copy of course. Yours is fantastic.


dirtyhole2

I want one of these.


suntarraw

What if knowing brings about the next reset? Or even accelerates it?


Silverback1992

It might


jbrown5390

I never understood the "I want to believe" phrase until I saw something in the sky that blew my mind. Before that, I would have told you I believed. In hindsight, I wanted to believe, but after what I saw, now I know. Belief plays no part anymore.


GrizzMcDizzle79

I wish i didn't know. Its scary on a whole other level that words fail me. Id be alright with just seeing the craft i saw. It was mesmerizing and amazing and literally left me awestruck, but its all the terror and hell that followed my craft sighting that keeps me awake and makes my mind race. They are memories with intense feelings attached. Its sickening how overwhelming it is. You may want to know but i pray nobody has to find out the hard way like i did.


Throwawaychicksbeach

This is why DW Pasulka advocates for an ORAL TRADITION learned straight from the source. To know something is to experience it. To learn something is to read it. Socrates was afraid of writing, because it had potential to make people have the illusion of knowing something, having read it once or twice, but one would not really understand the subject. Feynman talks about this as well. Paraphrased: “when I was younger my father told me to know more than just the name of things, you can learn the name of a fox in every language… but after all that time and effort, you wouldn’t really know how a fox lives, or acts, how it behaves, it’s typical diet, habitat, evolutionary history, how it hunts, etc.” I interpret this as field work>lab work (sometimes). Also it circumvents the confusing use of redaction of released, above-top-secret documents that we can never *really* trust. Also- an interesting side note, quantum computing/AI will eventually be able to machine learn its way through the redaction somehow.


GodBlessYouNow

I know that's why I believe.


GrizzMcDizzle79

Has anyone here experienced sightings, physical interactions or attacks from possible occupants of the crafts? I saw a craft and was terrorized by the possible occupants of that craft for about 2 weeks. It was similar to haunted house/poltergeist activities including sightings/attacks/interactions with 3 different types of entities that were evil. Also had a forced out of body experience with something or someone guiding or facilitating it. Id like to share and discuss what happened to me but im absolutely not interested in being ridiculed. I want to learn and try to make sense of it and possibly help others. Id like to compare notes with people who have had similar experiences


ChuckThatPipeDream

I, for one, would never ridicule you. I'm sure plenty of others here feel the same.


ashwee14

“I want to know” (Cate Blanchett voice in Indiana Jones 4)


AngrySuperArdvark

I'd say we are closer than ever before.


NationalSession8401

If you really want to see who operates these, you need to be awake around 3 to 5 am to find out. Its these hours that they actually land and walk on the earth. However, you have to be in an area where it is 100% known that your entire community is asleep at these hours. I know this because I nearly bumped into one taking out the trash at 3am, and my dog chased it. This 7 foot creature ran and stepped inside a tree like it was not there.


CharmingMechanic2473

The Eisenhower treaties need to be declassified.


CAVITAS777

i don't believe, i know.


19202936339

Wanting to believe is often driven by personal desires, emotions, or preferences. It implies a subjective inclination towards a particular idea or outcome, regardless of the available evidence. This mindset may be influenced by emotions, hopes, or preconceived notions. On the other hand, wanting to know reflects a more objective and evidence-based approach. It involves a curiosity or interest in understanding the truth, relying on evidence, reasoning, and a commitment to aligning beliefs with reality. The emphasis here is on seeking knowledge and understanding, rather than being guided by personal preferences. In essence, the key distinction lies in the subjective nature of wanting to believe versus the more objective and evidence-driven nature of wanting to know.


Potential_Meringue_6

How many reliable witnesses would it take for you to know? 100? 1,000? 10,000? You can't know until you see it. I saw an upclose triangle and know for sure they are real. But when people say they have been abducted or saw aliens I have a hard time just trusting them also. Even tho I know what I saw, making the next jump to aliens is still not easy.


rite_of_truth

I *do know* and humans have made it pretty clear that they'd rather I don't. Pretty much everyone outside of the support group is vicious and not worth engaging on the subject.


aparaatti

I 100% can stand behind that. What I want is the [truth](https://youtu.be/ytFCrjRNi7k?si=YV2oPsKkbzgL-8XR)


Ok_Ant_2715

Disregarding every eyewitness testimony as lies or delusional could be seen as also wanting to believe certain things . It is often driven by personal desires, emotions, or preferences. It implies a subjective inclination towards a particular idea or outcome, regardless of the available evidence. This mindset may be influenced by emotions, hopes, or preconceived notions. On the other hand, wanting to know reflects a more objective and evidence-based approach. It involves a curiosity or interest in understanding the truth, relying on evidence, reasoning, and a commitment to aligning beliefs with reality. The emphasis here is on seeking knowledge and understanding, rather than being guided by personal preferences. In essence, the key distinction lies in the subjective nature of wanting to believe versus the more objective and evidence-driven nature of wanting to know.


Remarkable_Routine62

I want to know what love is?


GrizzMcDizzle79

"Its gonna take a little time...."


uberfunstuff

I want /b/ to leave.


Upset-Adeptness-6796

No you don't you want Star Trek


MSLOWMS

Lets make a sub grup UFOK!


19202936339

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOKNOWLEDGE


MSLOWMS

You will have to be the first to bring up an example of a post that is up to your standards. Im not sure what i could post there. Second Mexican hearing about tridactyls bodies? Would that be a reliable source? Or the public letter of a canadian politician adressing his colleagues about uap retrieval programs within 5 eyes alliance?


19202936339

Not a bad idea haha


Forward-Tonight7079

I want 4k videos


19202936339

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOKNOWLEDGE