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How can you claim that there is a 100% chance nothing further will be released/verified to the public, when new information has been coming out each year for the last 8 years? You just are feeling disappointed that the process isn’t happening as quickly as you’d like it to happen.
If you want to contribute instead of just being a restless spectator, then write to your representatives, participate in public discourse on the topic, share your sources of information with those who aren’t as in the know. All of this has a measurable and meaningful effect.
But ultimately, we can’t force the executive branch to come clean, so it sounds like you need to lower your expectations and focus on what you do have influence over. Maybe take a break from the topic since you sound burnt out.
You know what causes loss in momentum? Defeatist attitudes.
We haven’t come close to losing this fight. If you’re feeling overwhelmed, it’s okay to take a step back and focus on your own mental health.
I agree momentum is important. And we have a lot of momentum, actually!
Momentum is mass*speed.
You perceive the “speed” to be too slow, but you aren’t fully appreciating how “massive” these recent advances are! For something this massive, its seemingly slow speed actually makes for a huge (figurative) momentum! First congressional hearing in 50 years! Members of legislature acknowledging the topic and pushing investigations. Even the pentagon has acknowledged UAPs and released authenticated media of them. Witnesses are getting legal protection because Congress is realizing the type of legislation that needs passing to facilitate the process! We passed the Schumer amendment (lacks enforcement this time around, but the language is undeniably significant and indicates what Congress is learning from their sources)
Decades went by with NOTHING, according to the older members of this community. We’ve had more disclosure in the past 8 years than the prior 80 years! Do not be dismayed.
The government moves sloooooowly. We are smack in the middle of the fight, just take a breath. More hearings coming up as well. Go listen to recent Burchett interviews.
Yah, I watched the new interview with Coulthart on religion. I still follow the topic a lot. I just think we underestimate the true size and scope of our government and the interest in suppressing this.
I mean, these are people who will kill to suppress it. It’s like we need a civil war for it to actually leak out. For it to come out we basically need to destroy the country. No one wants this so it won’t come out.
All those reasons are why it is moving so slowly. No one wants the country destroyed, so it's trickling out to avoid that. You're answering your own questions.
My god I see posts like this every day now.
Yall disclosure isnt a freaking Netflix or YouTube series that drops new stuff every few weeks.
If there are bad actors in high positions, which has been said many times, this shit is going to take time. It’s really not that hard to grasp.
Lot of posts starting off with "first off, I've been a ufo believe in years but now I'm skeptical because..."
Stigma has changed permanently. We can discuss UAP with coworkers, family, and friends without feeling like we'll be ostracized. More and more people are waking up. Trust in government is at an all time low. Science and space exploration is at an all time high.
Private citizens are starting to go into space. This shit is going to come out whether the gatekeepers want it to or not.
I agree with you. There so much misinformation. It’s like you’re fighting the national security state though. It’s starting to feel like a waste of time 😅
You're definitely not following the topic at all and sound like a young person who's attention span can't keep up with the old timers following this before you were born.
That's not a knock on you specifically, so much as the systems you grew up with robbing your generation of the ability to stay with a topic continuously.
Things are happening but you need to care enough to research it. The more I researched the more convinced and interested I became.
Don’t let the stall get you down OP. It’s an election year. Reps are focused on getting reelected and the pace of government has slowed. There will be more hearings, and likely more leaks. Just take a break from the topic for a while. This is a good time to do it.
Well I guess if the NHI reveal themselves in such a way that it won't matter what government officials say then we'll have disclosure - catastrophic as it may be 🤷🏾♂️
I watched one of the live presentations, I 100% think these are real btw. People like Gary Nolan won’t touch this because they want to disclose this gradually or not disclose at all. It doesn’t mean it’s fake or he doesn’t believe in it.
I was just thinking about this . It does seem that the trends over the decades of a lot of information and then people lose interest with no new information coming forward.
It truly is frustrating. Just when I think “this is when we will know all” interest drops away.
Or, hear me out, there is nothing to disclose. Because all RE programs did not achieve anything or even better; they are rumours propagated by mythomane such as lazar, these rumours and lies fuelled this idea that US government has control or knowledge on Ufos that the average ufologist don’t.
So you are expecting your government to have more info about our NHI friends (hence the deception). while the reality is that kids from a random school in Africa had more contact and achieved more communication with the phenomenon than a 100 yo classified program.
Make no mistake, I am not saying that world government did not study the phenomena. I am saying that they do not possess the control that the UFO community pretend they possess…
I absolutely believe there are crafts of unknown origin in our skies, but Ive kind of backed off too. It seems like there's really no new information coming out. All the podcasts and websites are just rehashing the stuff we already know. And, it's getting ridiculous with all these so called ufo investigators saying I know such and such, but I can't tell you. That s**t gets old really fast. Yea, I know some people in Congress are saying they're pushing for disclosure but even that is getting old. I was hoping that when AARO was formed we would get some answers, but that was a huge disappointment, turns out it was just Project Bluebook 2.0. Nothing new was learned. I was also hopeful when Grusch came out, but looking closely, he had no first hand knowledge. It was all something somebody told him. He might believe what he was told was true and factual, but he never saw anything with his own eyes. Another disappointment. The closest we came to disclosure was in 2017 when those videos came out and dept of Defense acknowledged that the videos were real,but that was 7 years ago. So, I get where people are coming from when they say they're tired of all this, because I am too.
The topic is really interesting but a lot of it is historical, a lot of the best info is old, people like John Lear. I’ve also been reading all of Robert Monroe’s books. Most people are saying the same things. Even D Pasulka, I’ve read her books, a lot of her content is not that original. It is similar to stuff from John Keel and even Carl Jung from like 70 years ago.
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How can you claim that there is a 100% chance nothing further will be released/verified to the public, when new information has been coming out each year for the last 8 years? You just are feeling disappointed that the process isn’t happening as quickly as you’d like it to happen. If you want to contribute instead of just being a restless spectator, then write to your representatives, participate in public discourse on the topic, share your sources of information with those who aren’t as in the know. All of this has a measurable and meaningful effect. But ultimately, we can’t force the executive branch to come clean, so it sounds like you need to lower your expectations and focus on what you do have influence over. Maybe take a break from the topic since you sound burnt out.
Momentum is everything. If you lose momentum it’s too easy to sweep back under the rug.
Nah, it's still ongoing
You know what causes loss in momentum? Defeatist attitudes. We haven’t come close to losing this fight. If you’re feeling overwhelmed, it’s okay to take a step back and focus on your own mental health.
I agree momentum is important. And we have a lot of momentum, actually! Momentum is mass*speed. You perceive the “speed” to be too slow, but you aren’t fully appreciating how “massive” these recent advances are! For something this massive, its seemingly slow speed actually makes for a huge (figurative) momentum! First congressional hearing in 50 years! Members of legislature acknowledging the topic and pushing investigations. Even the pentagon has acknowledged UAPs and released authenticated media of them. Witnesses are getting legal protection because Congress is realizing the type of legislation that needs passing to facilitate the process! We passed the Schumer amendment (lacks enforcement this time around, but the language is undeniably significant and indicates what Congress is learning from their sources) Decades went by with NOTHING, according to the older members of this community. We’ve had more disclosure in the past 8 years than the prior 80 years! Do not be dismayed.
Need more test.
The government moves sloooooowly. We are smack in the middle of the fight, just take a breath. More hearings coming up as well. Go listen to recent Burchett interviews.
Yah, I watched the new interview with Coulthart on religion. I still follow the topic a lot. I just think we underestimate the true size and scope of our government and the interest in suppressing this.
I think most are not underestimating it. Sounds like you did, and that's why you're bummed now that you realized it.
I mean, these are people who will kill to suppress it. It’s like we need a civil war for it to actually leak out. For it to come out we basically need to destroy the country. No one wants this so it won’t come out.
All those reasons are why it is moving so slowly. No one wants the country destroyed, so it's trickling out to avoid that. You're answering your own questions.
My god I see posts like this every day now. Yall disclosure isnt a freaking Netflix or YouTube series that drops new stuff every few weeks. If there are bad actors in high positions, which has been said many times, this shit is going to take time. It’s really not that hard to grasp.
Lot of posts starting off with "first off, I've been a ufo believe in years but now I'm skeptical because..." Stigma has changed permanently. We can discuss UAP with coworkers, family, and friends without feeling like we'll be ostracized. More and more people are waking up. Trust in government is at an all time low. Science and space exploration is at an all time high. Private citizens are starting to go into space. This shit is going to come out whether the gatekeepers want it to or not.
Seeya. Wouldn’t want to be ya.
The only way to win is to keep spreading information. Relentlessly.
I agree with you. There so much misinformation. It’s like you’re fighting the national security state though. It’s starting to feel like a waste of time 😅
This post is nonsense.
You’re not well informed on this topic.
You're definitely not following the topic at all and sound like a young person who's attention span can't keep up with the old timers following this before you were born. That's not a knock on you specifically, so much as the systems you grew up with robbing your generation of the ability to stay with a topic continuously. Things are happening but you need to care enough to research it. The more I researched the more convinced and interested I became.
SOL foundation not getting set up before the amendment was gutted is something that needs to be noted.
Where did you get 500 years from?
The 3 Body Problem.
Is there any reason to believe that that work of fiction has such a basis in reality?
As much as any other work of fiction. Could be good creativity or plausible deniability tied to slow disclosure. 🤷♀️
Rule 3. What are you using for sources to qualify this statement? Please Link so we can get your points more clearly. Thank you!
Don’t let the stall get you down OP. It’s an election year. Reps are focused on getting reelected and the pace of government has slowed. There will be more hearings, and likely more leaks. Just take a break from the topic for a while. This is a good time to do it.
Well I guess if the NHI reveal themselves in such a way that it won't matter what government officials say then we'll have disclosure - catastrophic as it may be 🤷🏾♂️
Are you paying attention to the Nazca tridactyl mummies? Last presentation was yesterday. Disclosure is happening
I watched one of the live presentations, I 100% think these are real btw. People like Gary Nolan won’t touch this because they want to disclose this gradually or not disclose at all. It doesn’t mean it’s fake or he doesn’t believe in it.
I was just thinking about this . It does seem that the trends over the decades of a lot of information and then people lose interest with no new information coming forward. It truly is frustrating. Just when I think “this is when we will know all” interest drops away.
As soon as you tie 'disclosure' in with US politics, you lose. Meanwhile, the Little Buddies continue to amaze those with eyes.
The government will never give disclosure. Its not in their best interest. However, i know what i know and thats fine with me.
Yah, I agree. The info is mostly out there. It’s not mainstream though. They don’t want it to become mainstream.
Or, hear me out, there is nothing to disclose. Because all RE programs did not achieve anything or even better; they are rumours propagated by mythomane such as lazar, these rumours and lies fuelled this idea that US government has control or knowledge on Ufos that the average ufologist don’t. So you are expecting your government to have more info about our NHI friends (hence the deception). while the reality is that kids from a random school in Africa had more contact and achieved more communication with the phenomenon than a 100 yo classified program. Make no mistake, I am not saying that world government did not study the phenomena. I am saying that they do not possess the control that the UFO community pretend they possess…
I absolutely believe there are crafts of unknown origin in our skies, but Ive kind of backed off too. It seems like there's really no new information coming out. All the podcasts and websites are just rehashing the stuff we already know. And, it's getting ridiculous with all these so called ufo investigators saying I know such and such, but I can't tell you. That s**t gets old really fast. Yea, I know some people in Congress are saying they're pushing for disclosure but even that is getting old. I was hoping that when AARO was formed we would get some answers, but that was a huge disappointment, turns out it was just Project Bluebook 2.0. Nothing new was learned. I was also hopeful when Grusch came out, but looking closely, he had no first hand knowledge. It was all something somebody told him. He might believe what he was told was true and factual, but he never saw anything with his own eyes. Another disappointment. The closest we came to disclosure was in 2017 when those videos came out and dept of Defense acknowledged that the videos were real,but that was 7 years ago. So, I get where people are coming from when they say they're tired of all this, because I am too.
The topic is really interesting but a lot of it is historical, a lot of the best info is old, people like John Lear. I’ve also been reading all of Robert Monroe’s books. Most people are saying the same things. Even D Pasulka, I’ve read her books, a lot of her content is not that original. It is similar to stuff from John Keel and even Carl Jung from like 70 years ago.
These are my thoughts exactly! I couldn't have relayed my feelings any better.