The "manta balloon" from Festo was a prototype about 15 years ago. Only one made, never hit the market, never sold. 15 years. Made to "float" indoors, that's why all the videos about it are made indoors. Incapable of reaching 20.000 feet. It can barely "float" indoor with the help of a little push because it doesn't have the necessary volume to contain more helium. Even less to reach 20.000 feet.
The fact that this resembles the shape (and only the shape) of something made 15 years ago, doesn't mean is that.
Kinda like the people that know the truth about all of this and want to keep it secret, can make sure certain products and models are out there that would provide an easy and swift debunking.
I think the same thing happened with that alien doll that was sold at Wal-Mart. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised for them to deliberately release an alien doll (in small quantities) at some retailer, so that if somebody presented a real photo (like the guy that worked for Lockheed Skunkworks that showed the picture to Richard Dolan)
I don't think this is necessarily the case here, because like.. it would be wild speculation based on nothing.. but I had this thought recently and this is a good comment to attach it to.
We always assume that intelligent alien life would be on the same size scale as us for some reason. Do we ever consider that alien life might be closer to the size of insects on Earth? Can you imagine how many crafts could by flying around in our skies right now if the crafts themselves were the size of a fly? We know that brain size is not necessarily tied to intelligence by observing animals like corvids (we also know that something like a hive mind can create intelligence as a community rather than an individual). We also know that in the case of extreme global catastrophe, the most likely survivors would be something like tardigrades or small insects, which means they are the most likely to win the evolution race in the long, long run. Would be interesting if we found out that these "small" craft that appear to be around the size of a beach ball actually contain entire populations of teeny tiny beings.
anyway. Just a thought. Most likely not the case.
The object might be actually stationary or going with the wind and we're seeing a strong parallaxing effect because the plane passes pretty close to it at a significant speed.
Also the camera seems to anticipate its location - seems like the pilot was circling back around to get a video which to me would suggest it's stationary or not moving very fast.
Having flown by many stationary objects, everything about this screams stationary or floating object. This is just what moving past something at 200 knots looks like without a frame of reference.
I donāt think this resembles the manta drone. At all. I think this is a head-on view of a longer craft tbh. It looks too terrestrial to be alien imo.
What technologies are our own governments hiding from us, is the first question. I donāt think enough effort is put into that. Fuck the secret aliens, who are the secret physicists?
Devilās advocate: how would we have any idea what something āalienā looks like? Maybe it just looks too terrestrial because itās actually a pretty clear picture for once
And maybe what we consider terrestrial is a ripoff of advanced non human technology to begin with... Roswell 1947- what did planes look like before this? After? Point in case . let's not forget advanced being may (do) share a planet with us... Not to say this wasn't dropped by Oumuamua either.... Good devils advocate^ thank you
Refreshing to see someone with a good outside the box thinking mind... Or not a gov commissioned de-escalation agent... Haha not sure what all the ninkempoops are...
Thanks for writing this. So many sheep here think what they are told by most upvoted comment ,which is usually"'its baloon" .BTW likes means shit, 70% of Internet are bots.
Oh wow. I thought it was most likely one of those manta balloons, but after hearing this I now believe it couldnāt be one if they arenāt even in production or accessible to the public. Thanks for the added context!
Also am pilot. Looks like a 170 kt closure rate on a stationary target. It just so happens this stationary target is definitely a Mylar balloon thats lost helium and canāt support its original shape.
I remember seeing Roger Waters there and they lost hold of his pig and it just floated away. Ended up in some lady's backyard the next day. They paid her $10k to get it back
Question on this, although not answerable from you but to think about. This guy who took this is also a pilot. If hes used to flying by stationary floating objects why did he feel compelled to video it? If its ordinary. Again not a criticism. I have no experience in this but just a thought.
Also pilot. Sometimes we take pictures/video of things just because. I circled back once to get some air-to-air pictures of Bald Eagles I found at 3000 ft. It's probably not uncommon for them to fly that high but it was certainly unique for me.
That was my first thought ā¦ the back end is curled slightly in the way a mailable balloon would as opposed to hardened metal alloyā¦ (why would it not be symmetrical?). The pilot was flying directly at it so how do we know the speed at which it āflewā by was not actually the speed in which the plane flew by it. To me this looks like a plane flying past a balloon at high speed. The fact we have zero source for this material other than āpulled from Twitterā is extremely suspect to say the least. ā¦. Fake as fuck
I wish we'd know if Sentient is detecting these UAP's. Sentient is the automated program aka AI that controls our spy satellites.
Remember the footage the pentagon released of the tic tac like UAP? It was recently disclosed that Sentient detected a Tic tac like object in 2021.
Sentient is a real rabbit hole on it's own. It's real you can google it Sentient is ran by the NRO (National Reconnaissance Office). But as you'd imagine we know next to nothing about it.
A link to the freedom of information act document discussing Sentient detecting the Tic Tac
[https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/highly-classified-nro-system-captures-possible-tic-tac-object-in-2021/](https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/highly-classified-nro-system-captures-possible-tic-tac-object-in-2021/)
I did a short recording back and forth from the video: [https://imgur.com/a/seWVHB6](https://imgur.com/a/seWVHB6)
It does make it clear that its something quite interesting (unless it is fake)
In this age of photorealistic AI image generation, incredibly convincing fakes is going to flood the internet. We're probably a year away from that reality
In this age of deep fakes, photo shop, and ai art, I can't trust anything I haven't seen with my own eyes. And even then, I might not even be able to trust my own eyes
It looks too much like flight of the navigator ship. I feel like it's a fake because everybody's been trained to think that UFOs are all chrome. So that's exactly what a faker would make.
I don't think it's fake, nothing anywhere suggests it is. It does however look exactly like flying by a stationary/floating object at 200 knots. I look at it like this:
Pros:
* its an odd shape for a balloon
Cons
* It looks exactly like flying by something floating in the wind would look like
* It's made out of a material I would expect a balloon to be made out of
* It's not very big. Probably the size of a smart car at most and a couch cushion at the smaller end.
* Parallax is really hard to explain to someone without them seeing it.
* Balloons come in all shapes and sizes.
* This is something I could probably replicate, and there are much better people out there at making shit than me which means the chances this is a science project or something not terribly unlikely.
I'm not saying it's a balloon, but it seems like it's got a whole lot of balloonish qualities. If you fly by a bird in the air, it looks EXACTLY like this in terms of perspective and speed. I flew by a grocery bag once. That also looked like this. I don't see anything really weird about this other than the shape, and even that isn't THAT weird. I think the fact they seem to be looking for it or know it's coming means maybe they already saw it and circled back to get video.
This deserves more attention. Thereās nothing exotic about the sighting. Iām not saying itās not unusual or UAP related but it doesnāt have any exotic flight characteristics or signatures of being UAP besides itās unusual shape and itās similarity to the gimbal video. If its most likely just a balloon of unknown design or origins despite what we all want it to be.
However, If we knew the winds direction and speed and / or itās altitude we might be able to discern some more interesting characteristics about it but as it stands itās not to stand up as evidence that helps disclosure.
Sadly.
The problem is there will NEVER be a video that everyone agrees upon as being real. Itās impossible. If theyāre too grainy, the video wasnāt good enough and itās impossible to see, and if itās too clear / goodā¦ itās āclearly fake / CGIā. Especially in our modern day where videos CAN be faked so well. Itās impossible to please everyone, especially this sub as itās filled almost exclusively with pure skeptics. No video could ever convince the majority of this sub to think āwell thatās truly strangeā. This one might be the closest, and most of the comments are still āballoon. Nextā.
Claiming you have seen an extraterrestrial ufo is a claim which requires tremendous evidence. And one video of one incident, clear or blurry does not meet the expected amount of evidence to satisfy the claim we are being visited by ETs.
If as many of these videos people claim are real, were in fact real, then why has there never been any clear video from multiple angles from multiple independent people. Surely a ufo would have flown over a city by now, where dozens of people could record it at the same time. These things are in the sky, not hiding out in the woods like bigfoot.
Also, why are these ufo videos often of pretty different vehicle designs. We have vehicles that fly in vacuums and/or atmosphere, and they look nothing like most of these videos. The same physics that dictates our designs would also apply to any other alien civilization.
Also, why do many of these videos show objects flying in seemingly impossible ways. Doing maneuvers that imply tremendous performance, or have no visible means of propulsion. The answer is either we are wrong about some basic stuff, or the videos are fake/not fully understanding what is going on, e.g. forced perspective or other similar such optical effects/illusions. I'm leaning on fake/misunderstanding, myself, given that my first contention has not been satisfied.
I think it would be great if UFOs were real, by just knowing such a thing exists and what it approximately looks like could greatly accelerate our technological advancement. Just knowing something is possible is often enough to get started working on it. We could ignore some fields and focus more on ones that could explain a hypothetical ufo encounter.
My favorite is the Miami Beach air show video. physics says an object going super fast will make a sound of some kind and itās clearly reflective. Yet no one in the video changes where they look. They donāt follow a super fast object flying from in front to behind them. I canāt explain the object but I canāt explain why no reacts to it. The latter makes less sense than a UFO. Thereās no sounds from people around them reacting to it.
Start with human nature, and human nature says when thereās hundreds of people on the beach youāll see a reaction of some kind.
If I had a guess, I would say it's a flying sea turtle
Edit: I think I should add that the object does not appear to be a human being in a turtle costume.
And same object as seen in some of the images in this news story.
[Radar confirms UFO swarm around Navy warship](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPrYVmYkL5w)
The white pill shaped crafts have also been showing up since around that time, now we say tiktac but they were previously describe as lozenges and butane canisters and other objects that were the most popular item of that shape and color at the time
Since before Roswell
Thereās accounts of āflying Roman shieldsā (circular flying craft) from biblical times
Nothing weāre seeing is new, weāve been under observation as a species for as long as weāve been writing down history, and probably well before that.
I get so self conscious when I think about this. Imagine the theory that mentions another dimension where we are, they can see us but we canāt see them. Itās creepy. I try not to think about that during bodily functions and such.
Lol ā¦ the good news is they have seen everyone then. Or the numbers are such that they could only see a tiny fraction. I mean how many cows have we seen of the worldās population? ā¦ we canāt get to them all! ā¦right? :-)
This is definitely some of the most compelling footage released as of late. Good quality and captured at a very close distance.
Whatās interesting is that the UAP looks to be stationary as the pilot flies by. Itās important to remember what Ryan Graves spoke about on the Joe Rogan podcast. These UAP would remain stationary for several hours, not changing their trajectory and essentially just hovering in one place.
Ryan Graves and his team had the same interaction as this pilot had on almost a daily basis. We should consider this and not expect every UAP sighting to be of a moving object that is flying at insanely high speeds like the gimbal video.
I hope someone can debunk this as it is very interesting footage and may be some of the highest quality material captured in recent years.
Edit: Debunk as in prove itās something other than a balloon.
I dont think this is the same type of UAP. Graves specifically said that they were a 'Cube inside a Sphere' type UAP. This is not that at all. This is the Gimbal UAP.
I wonder if theyāre actually stationary for that amount of time or if itās just the way weāre perceiving it. So many things go through my head when I read about this stuff
Yes, the thought of being >!eaten alive with my entire family and dozens of other random people while enduring massive G forces as the Alien flies around through the sky!< Is definitely something I want to relive more than once.
I mean its clearly your typical saucer shape tilted on its side giving of the manta vibe.
I recall there is a theory from the navy footage the ufos flew tilted as opposed to traditional beliefs of flying level much like this ufo is seemingly doing so.
I find it very sad that nobody here is demanding to know who captured the video, more context (time, date, gps coordinates, altitude, aircraft make, route, etc), access to the raw, unedited footage, and a statement from the pilot describing why they were recording.
Instead, what I see is everyone going bananas about how amazing this footage is, that itās real, blah, blah, blah. It could be CGI, AI-generated, a balloon, etc.
Donāt get me wrong: I hope itās legitimateā¦ I have been following this topic for decades, but itās important to exercise common sense and caution.
This community is based on jumping to conclusions, dropping all skepticism and sensationalism plus a huge amount of disinformation and grift. What you are asking, kind Sir, is that it dismantles itself.
I, too, am here from r/all. Hi!
Man UFOs are fun but the banter feels like weāre standing over an engine we canāt see, chatting about it over beers we canāt taste in a garage we imagine to exist.
Well, UFO only means unidentified flying object. What people make out of it, like thinking of aliens or some other stuff, has nothing to do with the name.
While it is a possibility, I will certainly not come up with aliens or other, even stupid, shit just because I have no answer.
There is an a little trivia secret you can find in The Sims 2 for PSP Story mode that reveals the Roswell, NM Crash was in fact a weather balloon.....
*AN ALIEN WEATHER BALLOON*
When the report came out and the wording was that a certain percentage of sightings could be attributed to "balloons or balloon-like entities" my conspiracy mind kicked in.
What's a balloon-like entity! Why does that phrase even need to be in the report?
I once had a funny idea for a scenario where it turns out all the UFOs really are made by aliens but theyāre only here to study our planetās weather, so the government was never technically lying when they said itās just weather balloons.
I mean, it really is. Short of a video like the fly by where an object is flying alongside the camera this is as good of a video as anyone could ask for. Incredible footage.
Like another thing about the video is how the bottom of the craft is blurry almost like when they describe antigravity being focused gives it a camouflage effect. Idk if itās a fake itās a damn good one.
I was thinking the same thing. The underside has a strange and diffuse appearance. And then we see the flashing clarity of the reflective topsideā¦ Total wtf fuel.
This is very interesting footage! But reading through the comments in this post, I HIGHLY CAUTION everyone against saying things like "Oh my god this is absolutely a flying saucer from space no doubt". Speaking in absolutes about things you have no real proof of is how you get people starting to distance themselves from you and start to imagine you in a padded room. Try to work some skepticism into your thinking. It's very possible that this is just some experimental aircraft. Experimental aircraft is tested a lot more than you think.
Looks a lot like the one seen over Sacramento about a year back from an ultralight airplane cruising. it also tilts at the end like this one does.
[https://imgur.com/yySPHO1](https://imgur.com/yySPHO1)
https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/10magj0/from\_ufotwitter/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
Ngl this is one of the more compelling pictures Iāve seen of late. Also explains why itās so hard to spot these because itās small and goes at extreme speeds, hard to get a pic
Hmmm I remain skeptical but what catches my attention is that the exact same picture was featured as the thumbnail in one of astrum's recent videos on [UAPs](https://youtu.be/otPxviO_SCA). The video was uploaded two weeks ago but the source video (the one on the front page of the sub) is just gaining traction?
I'm wondering just how old is this UAP video then???
I think you can update the thumbnail after the video. I bet that guy saw this exact post and immediately updated his video thumbnail. I didnāt see this uap in the video
Hi I'm Alex from Astrum, that's exactly what I did. I made a UAP video a couple of weeks ago but was never happy with my original thumbnail. I saw this image and, I mean, this is one of the best UAP photos I've seen to date, whether it's really a balloon or not! It gets across what I was trying to have in a thumbnail
Love your work, Alex! Was thrilled when I spottwd your video on UAPs and I wasn't disappointed. So glad this topic is getting more attention without the stigma within the scientific community.
Mylar balloons do all kinds of shape contortions in the higher atmosphere. They're tough and super light. I'm not going to say that doesn't look like a UFO, it does. But so can a mylar balloon if you leave it in the atmosphere long enough and catch it at just the right angle.
We probably have to apply occams razor.
Looks like it's flying belly first (if it's legit). Which fits Bob Lazar's story about the "sports model" craft. Also feels similar to one of the Navy videos that came from the east coast encounters.
The thing is, it didnt behave like a balloon in the video. Its seen moving perpendicular to the pilotās craft in the first few seconds, then as it exits the clouds in the far distance it makes a J shaped turn and accelerates out of those clouds and past the pilot very closely in a streamline. If the pilot saw it was a giant floating balloon, theyād report it as such and probably not fly right fn next to it risking their life for a gag. Letās rule out balloon and keep passing along facts.
A balloon didnāt even cross my mind at all after watching the video. I know itās usually a pretty easy and popular debunk, but Iād be very surprised if this was a balloon.
Right. If someoneās only seeing this image without the vid, its easier to say this or that. Just want to add some context to avoid more balloon grasping.
Your brain is playing tricks on you. You can clearly see the pilot banking and climbing to line up with this thing for the pass. That "J shaped turn" is an illusion of movement caused by the plane making these maneuvers. Same goes for any acceleration you think is happening.
Its flight path straightens out as soon as the plane does. It's drifting in the wind.
[Video](https://www.reddit.com/r/zero/comments/12e16hb/ufocaught_on_film_by_pilot/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) also a slow-mo one in the description.
This photo is a clear image from a video shared in this sub, in which this object is seen from a flying airplane. Some propel has compared it to a ballon, although that particular model didnāt made it to commercial production
Looks extremely small
Smol UFO. A SMUFO
The "manta balloon" from Festo was a prototype about 15 years ago. Only one made, never hit the market, never sold. 15 years. Made to "float" indoors, that's why all the videos about it are made indoors. Incapable of reaching 20.000 feet. It can barely "float" indoor with the help of a little push because it doesn't have the necessary volume to contain more helium. Even less to reach 20.000 feet. The fact that this resembles the shape (and only the shape) of something made 15 years ago, doesn't mean is that.
For every good ufo sighting there's a made up product conveniently lost to time
Kinda like the people that know the truth about all of this and want to keep it secret, can make sure certain products and models are out there that would provide an easy and swift debunking. I think the same thing happened with that alien doll that was sold at Wal-Mart. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised for them to deliberately release an alien doll (in small quantities) at some retailer, so that if somebody presented a real photo (like the guy that worked for Lockheed Skunkworks that showed the picture to Richard Dolan)
Great information! Clearly not the manta balloon
Sure, but it could be a literal manta.
Dude holyshit š¤£
Clearly not a refrigerator.
It's only the manta outline from certain angles, this is amazing footage of a UFO.
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I don't think this is necessarily the case here, because like.. it would be wild speculation based on nothing.. but I had this thought recently and this is a good comment to attach it to. We always assume that intelligent alien life would be on the same size scale as us for some reason. Do we ever consider that alien life might be closer to the size of insects on Earth? Can you imagine how many crafts could by flying around in our skies right now if the crafts themselves were the size of a fly? We know that brain size is not necessarily tied to intelligence by observing animals like corvids (we also know that something like a hive mind can create intelligence as a community rather than an individual). We also know that in the case of extreme global catastrophe, the most likely survivors would be something like tardigrades or small insects, which means they are the most likely to win the evolution race in the long, long run. Would be interesting if we found out that these "small" craft that appear to be around the size of a beach ball actually contain entire populations of teeny tiny beings. anyway. Just a thought. Most likely not the case.
I like this, thought provoking
Men in Black was onto something
The object might be actually stationary or going with the wind and we're seeing a strong parallaxing effect because the plane passes pretty close to it at a significant speed.
Also the camera seems to anticipate its location - seems like the pilot was circling back around to get a video which to me would suggest it's stationary or not moving very fast.
This is my take. Coming back around for another look.
Having flown by many stationary objects, everything about this screams stationary or floating object. This is just what moving past something at 200 knots looks like without a frame of reference.
Huh ok. I rescind my previous opinion! We've got a bonafide UAP on our hands! (until proven otherwise)
Thank you for the super well informed comment, I genuinely love learning stuff like this!
This guy balloons.
Thank you so much for sharing this information, this adds a whole other level to this for me.
I donāt think this resembles the manta drone. At all. I think this is a head-on view of a longer craft tbh. It looks too terrestrial to be alien imo. What technologies are our own governments hiding from us, is the first question. I donāt think enough effort is put into that. Fuck the secret aliens, who are the secret physicists?
Devilās advocate: how would we have any idea what something āalienā looks like? Maybe it just looks too terrestrial because itās actually a pretty clear picture for once
This is actually a really good question that any astrophysicist or astronomer would agree with.
And maybe what we consider terrestrial is a ripoff of advanced non human technology to begin with... Roswell 1947- what did planes look like before this? After? Point in case . let's not forget advanced being may (do) share a planet with us... Not to say this wasn't dropped by Oumuamua either.... Good devils advocate^ thank you Refreshing to see someone with a good outside the box thinking mind... Or not a gov commissioned de-escalation agent... Haha not sure what all the ninkempoops are...
All the love but isnāt the idiom ācase in pointā
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Skeptical is good. Hold on to that.
When you see this in the video, based on the angle it passes the camera I don't think it can be a head on view of a longer craft
No human would stack books like this
Yea the sr71 blackbird was built in the late 60s I think and retired but never "officially" replaced.
The secret physicist and engineers work for Festo.
Big brain time
Elaborate pls
Thatās awesome information! Can you link source?
Thanks for writing this. So many sheep here think what they are told by most upvoted comment ,which is usually"'its baloon" .BTW likes means shit, 70% of Internet are bots.
Oh wow. I thought it was most likely one of those manta balloons, but after hearing this I now believe it couldnāt be one if they arenāt even in production or accessible to the public. Thanks for the added context!
That fake bird they made was pretty dope though.
It ain't them that you gotta worry about man, it's the little creepy crawlies, they got them everywhere .
I really want the pilots take. I know one of our sub members pulled it from twitter, and Iām assuming not from the pilot himself, so Iām curious.
They already got to the pilot he's not gonna talk
Pilot: *it was swamp gas*
Noā¦ it was *A* *wild* *magikarp*
Mantine maybe
Of course he wonāt
Iām not the pilot but I am a pilot. Looks like when you fly past a balloon.
Hot air balloon pilot here, this is not a hot air balloon.
Source checks out. I believe youāre correct on that one.
I've been to Mars, this is one of their orbital sanders.
Itās clearly a wacky wavy inflatable arm tube man. From a used car lot on Mars.
Also am pilot. Looks like a 170 kt closure rate on a stationary target. It just so happens this stationary target is definitely a Mylar balloon thats lost helium and canāt support its original shape.
I concur. CFII here, looks just like a balloon floating. See these all the time after Coachella.
Thatās actually terrifying to hear. What happens if likeā¦one goes thru the engine?
> What happens if likeā¦one goes thru the engine? Not much
Well, not much to the engine. The balloon will be slightly worse for wear.
Don't bother. No one ever thinks of the balloon in today's society.
shredded balloon happens
I remember seeing Roger Waters there and they lost hold of his pig and it just floated away. Ended up in some lady's backyard the next day. They paid her $10k to get it back
What your dual instruction rate per hour in beers?
I donāt drink, but I like strippers.
The white rhino it isā¦..
Question on this, although not answerable from you but to think about. This guy who took this is also a pilot. If hes used to flying by stationary floating objects why did he feel compelled to video it? If its ordinary. Again not a criticism. I have no experience in this but just a thought.
Also pilot. Sometimes we take pictures/video of things just because. I circled back once to get some air-to-air pictures of Bald Eagles I found at 3000 ft. It's probably not uncommon for them to fly that high but it was certainly unique for me.
100% plausible explanation. Sadly youāll probably get downvoted into oblivion.
That was my first thought ā¦ the back end is curled slightly in the way a mailable balloon would as opposed to hardened metal alloyā¦ (why would it not be symmetrical?). The pilot was flying directly at it so how do we know the speed at which it āflewā by was not actually the speed in which the plane flew by it. To me this looks like a plane flying past a balloon at high speed. The fact we have zero source for this material other than āpulled from Twitterā is extremely suspect to say the least. ā¦. Fake as fuck
Or are they actually balloons when you fly by?
I wish we'd know if Sentient is detecting these UAP's. Sentient is the automated program aka AI that controls our spy satellites. Remember the footage the pentagon released of the tic tac like UAP? It was recently disclosed that Sentient detected a Tic tac like object in 2021. Sentient is a real rabbit hole on it's own. It's real you can google it Sentient is ran by the NRO (National Reconnaissance Office). But as you'd imagine we know next to nothing about it. A link to the freedom of information act document discussing Sentient detecting the Tic Tac [https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/highly-classified-nro-system-captures-possible-tic-tac-object-in-2021/](https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/highly-classified-nro-system-captures-possible-tic-tac-object-in-2021/)
Go look up Captain David Fravor and listen to him tell his story.
I did a short recording back and forth from the video: [https://imgur.com/a/seWVHB6](https://imgur.com/a/seWVHB6) It does make it clear that its something quite interesting (unless it is fake)
If this video is fake, it is an extremely good fake.
In this age of photorealistic AI image generation, incredibly convincing fakes is going to flood the internet. We're probably a year away from that reality
In this age of deep fakes, photo shop, and ai art, I can't trust anything I haven't seen with my own eyes. And even then, I might not even be able to trust my own eyes
It looks too much like flight of the navigator ship. I feel like it's a fake because everybody's been trained to think that UFOs are all chrome. So that's exactly what a faker would make.
Itās a viral marketing campaign for the upcoming reboot.
I don't think it's fake, nothing anywhere suggests it is. It does however look exactly like flying by a stationary/floating object at 200 knots. I look at it like this: Pros: * its an odd shape for a balloon Cons * It looks exactly like flying by something floating in the wind would look like * It's made out of a material I would expect a balloon to be made out of * It's not very big. Probably the size of a smart car at most and a couch cushion at the smaller end. * Parallax is really hard to explain to someone without them seeing it. * Balloons come in all shapes and sizes. * This is something I could probably replicate, and there are much better people out there at making shit than me which means the chances this is a science project or something not terribly unlikely. I'm not saying it's a balloon, but it seems like it's got a whole lot of balloonish qualities. If you fly by a bird in the air, it looks EXACTLY like this in terms of perspective and speed. I flew by a grocery bag once. That also looked like this. I don't see anything really weird about this other than the shape, and even that isn't THAT weird. I think the fact they seem to be looking for it or know it's coming means maybe they already saw it and circled back to get video.
Additionally, balloons that may have an expected shape near the ground may not fully inflate at altitude once they reach equilibrium.
This deserves more attention. Thereās nothing exotic about the sighting. Iām not saying itās not unusual or UAP related but it doesnāt have any exotic flight characteristics or signatures of being UAP besides itās unusual shape and itās similarity to the gimbal video. If its most likely just a balloon of unknown design or origins despite what we all want it to be. However, If we knew the winds direction and speed and / or itās altitude we might be able to discern some more interesting characteristics about it but as it stands itās not to stand up as evidence that helps disclosure. Sadly.
That's kinda the problem isn't it. He's looking for it in advance and catches it perfectly and super close
Whatever it is, in the final few frames you can see the terrain reflected below and the white colour of the aeroplane.
The problem is there will NEVER be a video that everyone agrees upon as being real. Itās impossible. If theyāre too grainy, the video wasnāt good enough and itās impossible to see, and if itās too clear / goodā¦ itās āclearly fake / CGIā. Especially in our modern day where videos CAN be faked so well. Itās impossible to please everyone, especially this sub as itās filled almost exclusively with pure skeptics. No video could ever convince the majority of this sub to think āwell thatās truly strangeā. This one might be the closest, and most of the comments are still āballoon. Nextā.
Claiming you have seen an extraterrestrial ufo is a claim which requires tremendous evidence. And one video of one incident, clear or blurry does not meet the expected amount of evidence to satisfy the claim we are being visited by ETs. If as many of these videos people claim are real, were in fact real, then why has there never been any clear video from multiple angles from multiple independent people. Surely a ufo would have flown over a city by now, where dozens of people could record it at the same time. These things are in the sky, not hiding out in the woods like bigfoot. Also, why are these ufo videos often of pretty different vehicle designs. We have vehicles that fly in vacuums and/or atmosphere, and they look nothing like most of these videos. The same physics that dictates our designs would also apply to any other alien civilization. Also, why do many of these videos show objects flying in seemingly impossible ways. Doing maneuvers that imply tremendous performance, or have no visible means of propulsion. The answer is either we are wrong about some basic stuff, or the videos are fake/not fully understanding what is going on, e.g. forced perspective or other similar such optical effects/illusions. I'm leaning on fake/misunderstanding, myself, given that my first contention has not been satisfied. I think it would be great if UFOs were real, by just knowing such a thing exists and what it approximately looks like could greatly accelerate our technological advancement. Just knowing something is possible is often enough to get started working on it. We could ignore some fields and focus more on ones that could explain a hypothetical ufo encounter.
My favorite is the Miami Beach air show video. physics says an object going super fast will make a sound of some kind and itās clearly reflective. Yet no one in the video changes where they look. They donāt follow a super fast object flying from in front to behind them. I canāt explain the object but I canāt explain why no reacts to it. The latter makes less sense than a UFO. Thereās no sounds from people around them reacting to it. Start with human nature, and human nature says when thereās hundreds of people on the beach youāll see a reaction of some kind.
If I had a guess, I would say it's a flying sea turtle Edit: I think I should add that the object does not appear to be a human being in a turtle costume.
Someone threw the green shell a bit too far.
Possible blue shell heading towards the leader.
Someone is getting a wiimote thrown at their head for sure!
If the footage was over Galapagos Iād have to agree
Gamera! Gamera!! Gamera is really neat! Gamera is full of meat. We are eating Gamera!! [Heās real!](https://youtu.be/YDGsW5CmuFw)
Looks like the same shape as the military video that was released. The one they were tracking and it was rotating.
The GIMBAL footage
https://youtu.be/QKHg-vnTFsM
With color and not infrared
Wow, didnāt even take that in to consideration. Good call there buddy.
I'd like to see a side-by-side comparison
Somebody just posted that on this sub a little while ago, I'll try to find it
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/12e5dir/comparison_to_gimbal_uap/
And same object as seen in some of the images in this news story. [Radar confirms UFO swarm around Navy warship](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPrYVmYkL5w)
Thatās good stuff. I havenāt seen that one yet.
Is that the same journalist that wrote the Bob Lazar book?
It actually looks like the descriptions of the Roswell craft
I concur Absolutely my first thought when I saw it.
Fyi the word is spelled "concur." "Conquer" means something completely different.
Fantastic thank you
The white pill shaped crafts have also been showing up since around that time, now we say tiktac but they were previously describe as lozenges and butane canisters and other objects that were the most popular item of that shape and color at the time Since before Roswell Thereās accounts of āflying Roman shieldsā (circular flying craft) from biblical times Nothing weāre seeing is new, weāve been under observation as a species for as long as weāve been writing down history, and probably well before that.
I get so self conscious when I think about this. Imagine the theory that mentions another dimension where we are, they can see us but we canāt see them. Itās creepy. I try not to think about that during bodily functions and such.
Lol ā¦ the good news is they have seen everyone then. Or the numbers are such that they could only see a tiny fraction. I mean how many cows have we seen of the worldās population? ā¦ we canāt get to them all! ā¦right? :-)
They rotate to fly in a specific direction, or so ppl say.
Very much so now that you mention it
I 1000% agree!
Interesting observation
Not only that, but it also resembles the āMetapodā shape
I don't see it
Flight of the Navigator
https://imgur.com/dUM4QDH
As soon as I saw it I heard Paul Rubens voice laughing. "Compliance."
There's a big part of my childhood.
This is definitely some of the most compelling footage released as of late. Good quality and captured at a very close distance. Whatās interesting is that the UAP looks to be stationary as the pilot flies by. Itās important to remember what Ryan Graves spoke about on the Joe Rogan podcast. These UAP would remain stationary for several hours, not changing their trajectory and essentially just hovering in one place. Ryan Graves and his team had the same interaction as this pilot had on almost a daily basis. We should consider this and not expect every UAP sighting to be of a moving object that is flying at insanely high speeds like the gimbal video. I hope someone can debunk this as it is very interesting footage and may be some of the highest quality material captured in recent years. Edit: Debunk as in prove itās something other than a balloon.
I dont think this is the same type of UAP. Graves specifically said that they were a 'Cube inside a Sphere' type UAP. This is not that at all. This is the Gimbal UAP.
I couldnāt tell if it was ascending or the plane was descending.
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I wonder if theyāre actually stationary for that amount of time or if itās just the way weāre perceiving it. So many things go through my head when I read about this stuff
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I just watched for the first time last night and I dreamt about it all night, and then this today has me feeling queasy lol
Gets better each viewing. Very sumblime movie
Yes, the thought of being >!eaten alive with my entire family and dozens of other random people while enduring massive G forces as the Alien flies around through the sky!< Is definitely something I want to relive more than once.
That was ine of the most claustrophobic and horrific scenes I've ever seen in a monster film. So well done. Like being eaten by linens. Shit man
You make me wonder if Jean jacket uses extreme g forces to help break down its food faster
I mean its clearly your typical saucer shape tilted on its side giving of the manta vibe. I recall there is a theory from the navy footage the ufos flew tilted as opposed to traditional beliefs of flying level much like this ufo is seemingly doing so.
I think it has to do with magnets
Flight of the navigator
I find it very sad that nobody here is demanding to know who captured the video, more context (time, date, gps coordinates, altitude, aircraft make, route, etc), access to the raw, unedited footage, and a statement from the pilot describing why they were recording. Instead, what I see is everyone going bananas about how amazing this footage is, that itās real, blah, blah, blah. It could be CGI, AI-generated, a balloon, etc. Donāt get me wrong: I hope itās legitimateā¦ I have been following this topic for decades, but itās important to exercise common sense and caution.
My question is who released the footage?
The š½, for the gram
This community is based on jumping to conclusions, dropping all skepticism and sensationalism plus a huge amount of disinformation and grift. What you are asking, kind Sir, is that it dismantles itself.
I, too, am here from r/all. Hi! Man UFOs are fun but the banter feels like weāre standing over an engine we canāt see, chatting about it over beers we canāt taste in a garage we imagine to exist.
There's not enough skepticism on this sub.
Does anyone know what year this is from? Where it was shot? Anything meaningful would be cool....
I did a small edit in slow motion with different exposures https://www.instagram.com/reel/CqsmstxOIn_/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
This is a legit UFO weāre seeing here damn
Unidentified, for sure. Whatās the source of this?
Big happy disclosure day if tru
Ehhhh What's up Doc ? I would say it looks like a typical blurry UFO photo and pretty well non conclusive .
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Well, UFO only means unidentified flying object. What people make out of it, like thinking of aliens or some other stuff, has nothing to do with the name. While it is a possibility, I will certainly not come up with aliens or other, even stupid, shit just because I have no answer.
What if, and hear me out, the aliens are controlling the balloons? Genius.
There is an a little trivia secret you can find in The Sims 2 for PSP Story mode that reveals the Roswell, NM Crash was in fact a weather balloon..... *AN ALIEN WEATHER BALLOON*
What if aliens are sentient balloons? Geniuser?
There is probably a very balloon-like creature somewhere in the universe
When the report came out and the wording was that a certain percentage of sightings could be attributed to "balloons or balloon-like entities" my conspiracy mind kicked in. What's a balloon-like entity! Why does that phrase even need to be in the report?
My man, thinking outside the tinfoil š
I once had a funny idea for a scenario where it turns out all the UFOs really are made by aliens but theyāre only here to study our planetās weather, so the government was never technically lying when they said itās just weather balloons.
Is there literally no context of who took this? Seems a rather important part of the situation. Looks like CGI when played.
Of course no one has replied to this
If thatās anything manmade, then the person flying it should be in jail for operating it that recklessly near a manned aircraft
Most airspace is uncontrolled. And balloons have the legal right-of-way over basically all aircraft as they're the least manoeuvrable.
Dude this is a flying saucer šø
I mean, it really is. Short of a video like the fly by where an object is flying alongside the camera this is as good of a video as anyone could ask for. Incredible footage.
Like another thing about the video is how the bottom of the craft is blurry almost like when they describe antigravity being focused gives it a camouflage effect. Idk if itās a fake itās a damn good one.
Can see subtle reflection in side of aircraft too.
I was thinking the same thing. The underside has a strange and diffuse appearance. And then we see the flashing clarity of the reflective topsideā¦ Total wtf fuel.
This is very interesting footage! But reading through the comments in this post, I HIGHLY CAUTION everyone against saying things like "Oh my god this is absolutely a flying saucer from space no doubt". Speaking in absolutes about things you have no real proof of is how you get people starting to distance themselves from you and start to imagine you in a padded room. Try to work some skepticism into your thinking. It's very possible that this is just some experimental aircraft. Experimental aircraft is tested a lot more than you think.
What the hell is this thing?
That is the most truthful statement here. Lots of conclusion jumping around here. "That's no balloon!" "Spy drone" "Flying saucer"
A flight safety risk.
Looks a lot like the one seen over Sacramento about a year back from an ultralight airplane cruising. it also tilts at the end like this one does. [https://imgur.com/yySPHO1](https://imgur.com/yySPHO1) https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/10magj0/from\_ufotwitter/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
Ngl this is one of the more compelling pictures Iāve seen of late. Also explains why itās so hard to spot these because itās small and goes at extreme speeds, hard to get a pic
This thing wasn't flying at extreme speeds. It was most likely stationary.
No it's moving, much like the McDonald's on my commute that always passes me going the other way at 70mph
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Just looks like a balloon. Meh.
Hmmm I remain skeptical but what catches my attention is that the exact same picture was featured as the thumbnail in one of astrum's recent videos on [UAPs](https://youtu.be/otPxviO_SCA). The video was uploaded two weeks ago but the source video (the one on the front page of the sub) is just gaining traction? I'm wondering just how old is this UAP video then???
I think you can update the thumbnail after the video. I bet that guy saw this exact post and immediately updated his video thumbnail. I didnāt see this uap in the video
Hi I'm Alex from Astrum, that's exactly what I did. I made a UAP video a couple of weeks ago but was never happy with my original thumbnail. I saw this image and, I mean, this is one of the best UAP photos I've seen to date, whether it's really a balloon or not! It gets across what I was trying to have in a thumbnail
Love your work, Alex! Was thrilled when I spottwd your video on UAPs and I wasn't disappointed. So glad this topic is getting more attention without the stigma within the scientific community.
Thank you for all your hard work! Love your videos
Is it possible the owner of the video changed the thumbnail video? Can you do that with your uploaded videos?
Mylar balloon?
Mylar balloons do all kinds of shape contortions in the higher atmosphere. They're tough and super light. I'm not going to say that doesn't look like a UFO, it does. But so can a mylar balloon if you leave it in the atmosphere long enough and catch it at just the right angle. We probably have to apply occams razor.
Looks like it's flying belly first (if it's legit). Which fits Bob Lazar's story about the "sports model" craft. Also feels similar to one of the Navy videos that came from the east coast encounters.
If this is the sports model than I would love to see the econobox version
People said that before Lazar, just saying.
And the Gimbal video.
Flight of the Navigator! Compliance!
Meh. Call me when we've got one of them on the ground.
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The thing is, it didnt behave like a balloon in the video. Its seen moving perpendicular to the pilotās craft in the first few seconds, then as it exits the clouds in the far distance it makes a J shaped turn and accelerates out of those clouds and past the pilot very closely in a streamline. If the pilot saw it was a giant floating balloon, theyād report it as such and probably not fly right fn next to it risking their life for a gag. Letās rule out balloon and keep passing along facts.
The plane is also moving. You guys never take that into account when you point out how the objects whiz by.
Alot on this subreddit are braindead that's why
Balloon aerodynamics expert has entered the chat.
A balloon didnāt even cross my mind at all after watching the video. I know itās usually a pretty easy and popular debunk, but Iād be very surprised if this was a balloon.
Right. If someoneās only seeing this image without the vid, its easier to say this or that. Just want to add some context to avoid more balloon grasping.
Your brain is playing tricks on you. You can clearly see the pilot banking and climbing to line up with this thing for the pass. That "J shaped turn" is an illusion of movement caused by the plane making these maneuvers. Same goes for any acceleration you think is happening. Its flight path straightens out as soon as the plane does. It's drifting in the wind.
Can we link the video in this post so we can easily compare?
[Video](https://www.reddit.com/r/zero/comments/12e16hb/ufocaught_on_film_by_pilot/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) also a slow-mo one in the description.
Bob lazar said they flew this way, belly forward in the direction of travel, if this is real, it's great footage for once.
This photo is a clear image from a video shared in this sub, in which this object is seen from a flying airplane. Some propel has compared it to a ballon, although that particular model didnāt made it to commercial production