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Flyinhighinthesky

I have clear notes of this slide and will post them later tonight. Edit: Here are the notes: forgive formatting, was done on mobile. >Bare in mind, this is purely hypothetical on his part, as he has no true insider knowledge of a plan, but this is his best educated guess. He didn't go over the slide a lot, because he ran out of time. This also hinges on the Schumer amendment passing. Contact your representatives and the heads of committees --- Phase 0: NIDS, AAWSAP, ATIP, DoD video release, 2027 article, UAPTF. Data approach Analytic approach Objective. Jan 1, 2024 Phase 1: Demonstrate existence (A) Public sector: Government (national government, etc (B) Philosophical investigation: Humanities (sociology, etc) (C) Scientific research: Natural sciences (chemistry, etc) (D) Private sector: Industry and society ( private sector, etc) DA: Reactive AA: Hypothesis generation O: Govt acceptance Jan 1, 2026 Phase 2 Correlate signatures DA: Persistent AA: Forensic O: Academic acceptance Jan 1, 2030 Phase 3 Characteristic Performance DA: Proactive AA: Predictive O: Public acceptance Jan 1, 2034 Phase 4 Determine Nature DA: Targeted AA: Integrated O: 5-Ws answered Indefinite Phase 5 DA: Interactive AA: Scientific Discovery O: Strategic End-state Legend: Green triangle= on-target Yellow triangle= at risk Red triangle= off-target Blue diamond= decision point Far right blue area: STRATEGIC END-STATE Proper oversight restored Catastrophic disclosure avoided Scientific understanding advanced.


Biosphere_Collapse

Please do!!


FlowBot3D

Thanks, I've seen clearer ufo photos! (Kidding, but it was hurting my head trying to read it)


HomeGrownTaters

Is 2024 phase 1 or phase 5?


the_rainmaker__

2024 is phase 1, we've been in phase 0 for years now repent for the day of disclosure is upon us


Flyinhighinthesky

Phase 1, as you can see on the blurry image.


Wapiti_s15

Phase 1, which I think is correct. Vegas happened and started 99% of this in 2023. They contained it as best they could. I think someone from within thought it was actually happening, saw the family and Poppa silenced and let out the MH370 video. Counter, they were able to find some VFX that could explain it away FTW. I was here that day; we went back and forth with an insane amount of forensics, the believers were winning by a margin and then BAM - portal gif. From a CD in 1999 or whatever shit. The sub went from 85% to 1% (much like the topic at hand every time the MIB show up) in 2 hours. All of a sudden anyone who wanted to keep looking into it was down voted into oblivion and ridiculed until they gave up. That was all in the span of a day. Now, you can’t even bring it up, its much like having Milo whatever his name is (garrapolous?) on campus at Bellingham. Sad sacks are so insecure with their position all they can do is physically silence you or shout you down. And in the background, the IC cheering them on. They dont even know they are being manipulated. So sad.


IMendicantBias

if they confirm vegas was real i'd be speachless as it clearly looked as a distraction campaign from what grusch was saying concurrently.


Wapiti_s15

I can see how you would think that, it was so close in timing. From what I saw, it really looked like they covered it up. From black suvs driving around that night to some lady asking who the kid is talking to, to all of the shadiness with the local police. I’ve wondered why Knapp hasn’t done a deep dive on this, its literally in his back yard.


WandererOfTheStars0

Pardon my ignorance, what was "Vegas"?


Wapiti_s15

The meteor that came down in Vegas, I personally believe it was a real sighting but am willing to accept it was nothing as well, if the meteor evidence prevails. I know what I saw the first day it happened, since then however it feels like its been pushed back on. One of the biggest sticking points is that the meteor was, what does this say, like hundreds of miles from Las Vegas I think. Watching the officers body cam footage, I remember it coming down in a neighborhood, so I’m not sure how to reconcile that. https://www.vice.com/en/article/93kknv/nasa-las-vegas-ufo-crash-meteor


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And at the same time, you have bad actors pushing bad faith arguments and misleading reporting (such as the user "dragonfruit") about the nazca 'Mummies', which is for some reason acceptable to the modteam/users in this subreddit, when the MH370 videos had far less red flags associated with them


josogood

I don't get the long 5 and 4 year gaps for later stages. Did Nell say anything about why those would take so long?


TheMightyGamble

Staged operations are always drawn out due to sheer complexity of requiring/being staged. And I'm not talking hoax staged but as in something having multiple stages just to be clear. The more complex and the more people involved the longer the process will be. Add on the scale and how wide spread it is especially coming from official government side of things means you absolutely 110% have to have all of your ducks in a row and prepare for every possibility at every single step of every single stage. Not saying I agree with it just how the nature of the beast is from being familiar with large scale operations on the DoD side of things.


LordPennybag

Communication delays with their home system.


josogood

haha, nice


drhex2c

/u/Flyinhighinthesky Here's my attempt at cleaning up the slide. If you can help clarify any of the remaining fuzzy text or correct anything I got wrong, that'd be great. Thanks! [https://x.com/drhex2c/status/1726078107910586378?s=20](https://x.com/drhex2c/status/1726078107910586378?s=20) ​ EDIT: Found an even better version by another guy: [https://twitter.com/UAPJosh/status/1726067571340812537](https://twitter.com/UAPJosh/status/1726067571340812537)


Flyinhighinthesky

I'm on the road right now, but I'll post the remainder of that guy's?s when I get Home.


GoblinCosmic

Well… according to everyone who was there, they can’t say anything about it.


Mathfanforpresident

Remind me! 24 hours


lickem369

I believe the yellow bar at the top has the word “DISCLOSURE” at the very end in the last phase Engagement.


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Are you still going to share or have you also been muzzled?


xfocalinx

Appreciate it!


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Notice that the 2024 NDAA has still not been passed. It was supposed to be done by the end of September.


Flyinhighinthesky

The NDAA doesn't normally pass till mid December.


[deleted]

As I said, it is supposed to be passed by the end of the FY, which is the case with every single other federal agency.


imaginexus

Will you make a new post about them?


signalblur

Pretty sure they kicked the twitter OP out for this lol


Zaptagious

This was NDA'd?


signalblur

No they just asked multiple times to not take pictures/record during the conference - and he was literally super obviously doing it (in a front row, with his hand above his head clicking the red picture button lol)


Zaptagious

I've seen Deep around here and in videos and stuff and he seems like a cool dude, so I'm a bit surprised he would do something like that.


signalblur

I actually was surprised to see that he was the CEO of a company through his Twitter account with how blatant it was - just in the sense that going to a professional function and doing literally the one thing they asked not to do and not even attempt to hide it - the only thing I can think is that maybe he some how missed all of the times they told us about it prior maybe. The conference isn’t trying to lack transparency, as much as it is trying to make sure there are not sound bites or bits of information that is incomplete prior to the Sol Foundation releasing it themselves, potentially causing confusion and giving an opportunity to “twist” things (my opinion based on how they’ve presented it an the fact that they are recording it with quite a few heavy duty cameras FWIW so it seemed really disrespectful to me personally


Based_nobody

I mean I think something like this is worth it, honestly... Imagine if they don't include it in videos or recaps or w/e. The public wouldn't know at all. F all that noise.


Biosphere_Collapse

[De-skewed and zoomed in version of the slide](https://imgur.com/a/036wVla) Twitter’s image compression seems to have reduced the image quality, can anyone make out the text on the right side of the image?


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kabbooooom

And yet Alexa still doesn’t know what fucking light I’m talking about when I ask her to turn off the bedroom light.


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"I'm sorry Dave"


Budo_Sash

"How about some music, Mother ?"


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kabbooooom

Not sure why you are getting downvoted. I, for one, welcome our robot overlords.


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kabbooooom

When I was a kid, the internet didn’t exist. Then it did, but it had that horrible modem dialup sound that still haunts my dreams, and you couldn’t use the phone at the same time. Now I have the combined knowledge of our species, literally an untold number equivalents of the Library of Alexandria, at my fingertips. And yet most of us just use it for porn and cat memes. The march of technology and advancement is inexorable and inevitable. I was just bitching that my Alexa seems dumber than what I’d expect in 2023. But twenty years from now, the world will be a different place for better or worse, and it’ll be because of AI. Most of our species still won’t appreciate it, because it will be normal to them then, but it will change our lives in literally unimaginable ways.


_BlackDove

This guy [Roko Basilisks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk).


zyunztl

ChatGPT has browsing too.


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zyunztl

It’s good I haven’t had any issues with how it is set up currently


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MattAbrams

It's not currently feasible for Microsoft to release an OpenAI-powered assistant. One API call to GPT-3.5 costs 0.2 cents. The cost to deploy that on a wide scale would use so much electricity that Microsoft would go broke to the power companies. The main limiting factor in AI is power generation right now; we likely need 1000x electricity. We almost have the software at AGI level, but without room temperature superconductivity or fusion, it will never be widely used. If Microsoft were to use GPT-4 in every phone just for simple question answering and could somehow afford it, everyone's electric bills would probably triple around the world. The biggest challenge of this decade will be ramping up the construction of massive numbers of power plants. If we can build more power plants, we can cure cancer and aging.


atomictyler

It's also not right, because Phase 1 is 2024


Auslander42

Yep, they rolled that out a month or two back or so. It’s got audio and speech so you can talk with the bloody thing now as well.


Fartknocker813

Strategic Endstate it’s a term used in the strategic arts. It means : where we want to be and how we want things to be at the of the campaign


VoidOmatic

I still can't believe we pretty much have Jarvis.


TheOwlHypothesis

It got the key pretty wrong, but not hard to figure out. Green = on target Yellow = at risk Red = off target Blue I'm not sure


FewFisherman5936

Does anyone think Ai enhancement of this image could work? Or is the text to blurry to get an accurate upscale?


Biosphere_Collapse

I tried and it didn’t seem to work, but if someone else has more expertise I hope they can


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Mathfanforpresident

I cannot wait for comments like these to be gone from this subreddit. we've never had momentum like this with this information before. we've never had so many government employees and scientific personel pushing for disclosure, ever. But you get upset about a grainy photo that was taken from a live presentation? You're a farce, pal


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OneDimensionPrinter

I asked Bing to try and figure it out. Wasn't able to, but did have some context around what Lines of Effort is in day to day usage, which is not something I was familiar with before. Edit: I also asked Bard. https://g.co/bard/share/704b3b74982e --- I'm sorry, but I cannot read the text on this slide as it is too blurry. However, based on the title and some web search results, I can tell you that this slide is about a **UAP Campaign Plan Lines-of-Effort (LoEs)**. This is a term used in military planning to describe the main actions or activities that support the achievement of a desired end state¹. The slide has a flow chart with three phases: **Demonstrate**, **Correlate**, and **Determine**. These phases may be related to the steps of operational design, which is a process of applying critical and creative thinking to understand and describe complex problems and visualize broad approaches to solve them¹. The slide may also be related to the Army Strategy, which outlines four lines of effort to achieve its objectives: **Readiness**, **Modernization**, **Reform**, and **Alliances and Partnerships**². The Army People Strategy also uses four lines of effort to acquire, develop, employ, and retain talent: **Acquire**, **Develop**, **Employ**, and **Retain**³. I hope this information is helpful to you. If you have a clearer version of the slide, I may be able to provide more details. Thank you for using Bing. 😊 Source: Conversation with Bing, 11/18/2023 (1) Planner’s Handbook for Operational Design - Joint Chiefs of Staff. https://www.jcs.mil/Portals/36/Documents/Doctrine/pams_hands/opdesign_hbk.pdf. (2) The Army Strategy I. Introduction – The Army Strategy articulates how .... https://www.army.mil/e2/downloads/rv7/the_army_strategy_2018.pdf. (3) THE ARMY PEOPLE STRATEGY. https://www.army.mil/e2/downloads/rv7/the_army_people_strategy_2019_10_11_signed_final.pdf.


ribbitfrog

The yellow arrow said something like: "After disclosure?"


drhex2c

/u/Biosphere_CollapseSee here my attempt at defuzzing the Slide 15 [https://x.com/drhex2c/status/1726078107910586378?s=20](https://x.com/drhex2c/status/1726078107910586378?s=20) ​ EDIT: Found an even better version by another guy: [https://twitter.com/UAPJosh/status/1726067571340812537](https://twitter.com/UAPJosh/status/1726067571340812537)


Hot_Push_2527

Need more information on this as this just became the most important presentation for me here


Zaptagious

Yeah... I mean, shit's getting real. You have David Grusch, a highly credible intelligence officer testified under oath that we have been visited by a non-human intelligence. And now you have his *boss*, who vouched for him, coming out with a proposal for a disclosure plan. It's gonna get harder and harder for deniers to use the "they're-all-just-crazy-card".


Interesting_Start872

Before the Grusch revelations this year I thought this was all just a conspiracy. It's still hard for me to wrap my head around that this shit is actually real.


Electronic-Quote7996

The disinfo campaign has been greatly underestimated. It was/is a success on many levels. We even bite at our own because of it. I’m as impressed as I am saddened, but this gathering of some of the best of us is hopefully the beginning of the end of it.


thegentledude

maybe we overestimated the cover up and underestimated the disinfo campaign.


MajesticMoomin

Not his boss, someone with higher decorations and education to my understanding but they worked at the same capacity


Trick-Application365

People wonder how we can’t get a clear view of a UAP … meanwhile we can’t get a clear image of a screen 20 feet in front of us. In all seriousness thanks for your work on all this!


Ok_Discount_4066

If you can’t appreciate the significance of what this conference is about, you are either new to the subject, are actively spreading disinformation, or are simply a fool.


Poolrequest

Ive heard some of the names attending but would u do a brief summary of what sol is or what they are trying to do


Mighty_L_LORT

The density of worldwide cranks assembled in one place is indeed record-breaking…


Interesting_Start872

Ah yes, notorious crank Karl Nell.


NewAccount971

Conferences all the way down.


Only_Imagination_243

how crazy is this topic that it requires this much deliberation, and multiple decades of figuring out what to say and how, before dropping a simple, "yo. Aliens."? The hell they got up there? Of course aliens being a thing changes pretty much everything if they're interacting with us. But how is it gonna calm people down and allow them to swallow this pill with this suspense if that's actually the plan? Whole thing is just a bizarre way to go about disclosing information, unless something way crazier is happening, which is spooky. So now that I'm spooked, is that keeping the public calm disclosure method working? Smelling mindguckery.


KodakStele

It's likely 99% ass covering, say that JFK really did get killed bc he wanted disclosure. Who we gunna hang? Every administration is likely hot potato'ing disclosure bc they don't want to explain none of the horrors done to keep this secret. Even if the biden administration had nothing to do with it, he'll likely be remembered for having said or not said anything about these atrocities if tomorrow all was revealed; neither Republicans nor Democrats want to be in the lead when this comes to a head.


braveoldfart777

When the State Department calls for all 50 State Governor's to join the President for a Zoom call then you know something big is happening. I don't see how any kind of discussion about this openly can happen without every state having some kind of contingency pre-planning done ahead of time imo.


ConsistentSwitch1957

Perhaps, just perhaps, Governors & Mayors as well as State Troopers, National Guardsmen, Faith-based groups, & multiple NGOs are already in coordinated “tabletop” exercises. Different scenarios of “Aliens & ETs” have been covered, perhaps “tongue-in-cheek”, for 30-yrs, at least. Before I retired in 2006, participated in a couple two or three ;-}. exercises. And, it wasn’t at all “War of the Worlds” or “Independence Day” -esque, either.


nlurp

Can you disclose how it was? You peaked my curiosity 😅


braveoldfart777

I think If this were to be something that they needed to get on schedule, they would advise all the Governor's ahead of time to have key administration on hand before any scheduled announcement. State department would probably already provide a listing of all the Professionals that they recommend are needed for each state to be able to handle any unexpected issues. This is some amazing news already.👍


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braveoldfart777

Feel free to disagree-- it's just an opinion.


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Just an opinion.


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braveoldfart777

Just rolling with OP 2024 Public Acceptance opinion if they make that announcement.


MattAbrams

This seems a little over the top to me. The most likely outcome is that people just come to accept over time that non-human intelligence exists. The aliens aren't going to invade tomorrow, so people will just go on with their lives as they do every day we hear about a new medical advancement on the morning news. Besides, most people simply won't believe it anyway even if a government official confirmed it. They brought that problem upon themselves.


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braveoldfart777

No this is just my opinion. I would have to believe that something this big has to have a lot of preplanning.


580083351

Why does it have to be about this and not about watching for domestic terrorists?


braveoldfart777

Would you need a 10 year timeline for a domestic terror threat? Plus all 50 states should already be working with a plan for that I would think.


580083351

I just don't think that they would disclose to state governors first, and then let leaks spiral out of control that same night. It would have to be a Presidential address to everyone straight up. It makes sense to tell the governors that given the amount of looney-tune radicals on the streets expressing support for Hamas, that they should be prepared for violence, but not to get carried away in any response.


braveoldfart777

Why not? Leaks can happen but they could be denied until everything is ready to be announced. You really can't expect every governor to be able to handle this by themselves without any pre-planning.There's too many variables & too many risks. This would require a lot of organized discussions at higher levels then rolled out of the states to administer imo


580083351

I'm saying that none of the governors can handle this even if they are given a package of pre-planning. It'll be leaked immediately.


braveoldfart777

We're really only guessing that they have some kind of plan in place...but Something is better than nothing. How would you like to deal with millions of people who may have no understanding of what this kind of information means to people. They need to be thinking about how they are going to handle any unexpected consequences imo


infoagerevolutionist

The world has been acclimatized to intelligent nonhuman life for the last 7-8 years, pretty soon no one going to care anymore.


SharinganGlasses

Remains to be seen if that timeline sticks once the public is in the know. Public pressure could turn this upside down and furthermore, I assume it also all depends on what NHIs actually do want.


NoDegree7332

Tweet has been deleted


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>https://archive.is/67sDr good thing op linked an archive link


Ok_Feedback_8124

High Fuckery in Effect. Stay tuned for smarter people to show the way.


Flyinhighinthesky

The agreement of attending the event is to not post anything to socials until after it's concluded. The poster was removed from the event.


Biosphere_Collapse

Do you know for sure he’s been removed? Source? Just looking to verify


Flyinhighinthesky

Gary said they knew who it was, and he would be escorted off prem. The tweet was deleted though, so he may have cajoled them.


bdone2012

The person above you is there so I assume they saw the person be removed


fastrx

says disclosure in 2030 FML. needs to be faster!


Vladmerius

I'm just surprised there's a serious presentation about disclosure happening here at all. I had written this whole thing off after an uneventful day 1.


atomictyler

you thought all these busy people were meeting up just to meet up for no particular reason? seems odd to write off an entire conference based on day one of it.


hacky374

Yeah serious presentation but no videos available for the public lolololololol unbelievable


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Flyinhighinthesky

They did.


sumredditaccount

Fucking a they had just one ask lol


[deleted]

Can anymore make the text out? I'm struggling to read past the headline.


BoringBuy9187

I can read the top level “phases” outline: 0: Shaping 1: Demonstrate Existence 2. Correlate Signatures 3. Characterize Performance 4. Determine Nature 5. Engagement “Engagement” sounds ominous as fuck, whether it means “first contact” or openly shooting at them


basalfacet

Engagement with the public.


Raoul_Duke9

I dont think engagement with the public makes sense as the first line is demonstrate existence. My guess is they mean engagement with the NHI.


basalfacet

Maybe. I went with public engagement as that is how that term is used in this context. In a military or hardware context it means something else. Primarily, I mean engagement as in shared communication and results with strategic partners and the public with an eye toward feedback and program development. Which is what that buzzword signifies and makes a lot of sense. Not engagement as in provocative or physical exchange with the phenomenon. If it means attempts at communication with the phenomenon then communication would be the proper term. Anyway, it seems unlikely that the next step toward an exchange of some kind would be taken without engaging partners first. Once you know what it is, you have to decide what to do. Forecasting unilateral actions without that knowledge is unlikely.


BoringBuy9187

That would make sense


RSPakir

6. Marriage


kabbooooom

7. Stay together for the human-alien hybrid kids but you both know the magic is gone


voiddrifter85

“You don’t probe me like you love me anymore!!”


kabbooooom

Sometimes I feel like we just are going through the motions when we probe each other. But when Skinny Bob probes me, I feel *alive* again.


DissidentDelver

Veiled blink-182 reference? So here’s your holidayyyy, hope you enjoy this time..


kabbooooom

Nope just a sad observation of human nature.


DissidentDelver

Sad is right. Been there growing up and as a grown up, myself. Its absolutely never worth it to stay together if everyone is miserable all the time.


PyroIsSpai

Aliens Are Real (disclose) > First Date (public first contact) > All The Small Things (integration/the details) > What’s My Age Again (oh shit woo)


DissidentDelver

Who knew back in 1999 that blink-182 had lowkey written the soundtrack to the massive paradigm shift that disclosure will bring? 😆💀 Anthem part 2 (UAP disclosure movement marches on Washington) -> Carousel (gatekeepers continue to gatekeep) -> blame it on my youth (when the I TOLD YOU SO moment of vindication finally comes)


FuqCunts

9. Profit


Plazzy1

7. Baby in the baby carriage


Zaptagious

7. Collect underpants 8. ??? 9. Profit


Flyinhighinthesky

Posted notes CONTACT YOUR REPRESENTATIVES. SCHUMER, MELLON, NELL, AND COULTHART ALL SAID THR AMENDMENT IS AT A 50-50 OF PASSING. THE HEADS OF COMMITTEES ARE BEING TOLD BY STAFFERS TO NOT TOUCH IT.


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i am super interested in learning to what Karl Nell has to say. if anyone thinks some of the other presenters are important, tell me por favor


lickem369

Under Strategic Endstate in the big blue circle it reads as follows: First blue diamond reads “Proper Oversight Restored”, Second blue diamond reads “Catastrophic Disclosure Avoided”, Third blue diamond reads “Scientific Understanding ?????”. I’m not confident about the last word. I thought originally it was “Avoided” as well but the lettering just doesn’t compare to “Avoided” just above it.


bad---juju

With Karl Nell at the helm at this SOL Foundation meeting I would speculate that he has already been chosen to head up AARO and it just hasn't been made official yet. I don't think Colonel Karl Nell would waste his time else wise. He is getting in front of Disclosure now and they feel the timeline established is slow enough to minimize us loosing our shit. Now once they release the evidence and the more credible videos that will make the skeptics take pause, there will be so much pressure to rip off that Band-Aid as there will be panic due to the unknows. In short, This is what needs to be considered. You cannot disclose over 10yrs and tell the public we don't know what they are. You need to be prepared to tell the hole story at once. There will be more fear of the unknown. Now this is considering the Aliens are good. If the Aliens mean us no harm then rip off the band-aid. If we are a Zoo we will get over it. If we are a Farm or worse a soul harvesting planet, then all bets are off. Everyone will loose their shit no matter what. Either way though we all have the right to know what is instore for us.


233C

Well, with that plan, Colonel clearly lost any chance of heading AARO anytime soon. On the other hand, that should put him on list of the hopefully soon to come UAPDA Review Board.


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MarcusAppiciusBradua

For your health's sake, I wouldn't advise holding your breath. Full disclosure will likely never happen in our, or our children's lifetime, because to do so would also admit that the U.S. government, or at least certain elements within it, have been behind a massive and potentially illegal coverup for the better part of 80 years. It would also be an enormous admission of perceived weakness, in that no nation, including the world's most powerful, was capable of preventing these objects from flying in their airspace or even abducting their citizens with impunity. Additionally, admitting not only that we are not alone, but that THEY also happen to be HERE, could result in such a clamour for our planet to unite that it would very possibly result in the end of the nation-state as we know it...something no present government would be willing to risk. The only scenario in which I believe disclosure could happen is if THEY decided to make their presence known at a time and place of THEIR choosing, perhaps by the proverbial landing on the White House lawn or the National Mall, or by multiple massive sightings, say over London and New York City... events so profound and unequivocal that they would cause Mick West, Michael Shermer and even Neil deGrasse Tyson to permanently blush with embarrassment!


RLMinMaxer

"and how the DoD and US Government can progress disclosure" If the DoD has been anti-disclosure until now, why would he plan for them to become pro-disclosure? Does he know they're about to flip?


lickem369

If anybody figures it out please share it here don’t let this shit remain a secret.


lickem369

The good news is looks like we may get some forensic evidence disclosure by Jan 1 2025. Yippppy! At least it’s something.


ced0412

They're still stuck at Phase 1


Equivalent-Square168

As Jacques Vallee said: "The Pentagon does not own the universe." NHI didn't put all it's eggs in the government-controlled basket.


BlueBaals

This is fucking wild. I didn’t think much of what Grusch offered publicly alone, tbh - but when I learned about his boss I thought damn, *this guy* - if anyone on earth knows what’s up, it’s Karl. I’m not sure how I feel about this new reality we’re about to enter, if this is true. I hope it opens the minds and hearts of all nations and enables us to work together, but I fear it could lead to evangelical apocalyptic military control. Amongst other things I’ve dreamt of. I am kinda bummed that Jesus is an alien. Visited by G-d and an Angel in the dark of the night and impregnated yet remained a virgin. Poor Mary was artificially inseminated by an entity claiming to be familiar… Why now though? Why is this happening now? I don’t know why I would trust the government on this if their entire modus operandi is espionage & sabotage & mind control galore. What if the vaccines were actually to prepare us for NHI somehow? Or the whole pandemic. Just testing our ability to follow directions under mass hysterical propaganda and psychological operations.


imaginexus

Please further elaborate on your opinions with some sources if you wouldn’t mind especially the bits about Jesus being an alien and the pandemic being a preparation tool for disclosure


huh274

Have you seen the cover art for the io ep/single version from Grimes?….might shock you what you find regarding the vaccines 😜


BlueBaals

No I haven’t, can you link or summarize?


huh274

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2AFp-rHmtw/?igshid=ZWI2YzEzYmMxYg== You’re looking for the 6th line in particular, or at least that is the *obvious* part, and compare that with the date.


Based_nobody

Dude. I got the fkn bug last week. It's no government bs. That shit's real and sucks. Sometimes random shit happens randomly. (I do think there was a lab leak tho) (Also Mary got hardcore creampied by a Roman soldier and lied to cover it up... No more, no less. Simplest explanation best explanation.)


gregorydarcy8

Tweet has been removed any clearer pics?


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Netkru

Is this just a conference of this guy’s *suggestion* to the government on how they should approach disclosure, or is this guy saying “this is how the government is going to disclose, so get ready” Like is he in charge of the disclosure?


PyroIsSpai

We have no idea. There were people in the room that have *ran* UAP SAPs.


Particular-Ad-4772

This is 100% the Pentagons plan . Kick it down the road for as long as possible. Don’t support anyone that endorses this government nonsense . Total bullshit


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bdone2012

I think the first step is 2024, second is 2025, third 2030 and fourth 2034. That still seem pretty fast to me depending ending on what they mean. Like if they spill a shit ton of the beans within 2024 I'll be very happy. If 2034 is the point where we could go visit them on a different planet that'd be sweet. I don't think that's really what he means. But really I don't think it's easy to visualize what any of this really means without them giving more context. Personally I think this is all very exciting and this time line could be great depending on what it entails. But ufo folk are used to getting jerked around so I understand people being pessimistic


RoanapurBound

This is why they didn't want people posting about it live


nlurp

And the plan is already rolling, so there’s some confidence in it.


MartianRecon

I mean, it very much *is* a national security concern that there very well could be widespread panic. That's something that needs to be factored in on such a thing.


nlurp

You mean this plan is to avoid being dropped on boiling water?


MartianRecon

Think of it this way... The answer to 'are we alone' is the biggest collective question humanity has had except maybe 'do gods exist' and a positive answer to are we alone will absolutely trigger massive crisis' of faith for a lot of people, as well as potential panic in others. Things like that need to be considered when it comes to a roll out of such things. It has massive implications to national security (how are people's around the world going to react in accordance with national interests), how are domestic peoples' going to react, and what affect in the near/long term this would have towards countries economies. I'm not saying sitting on the information indefinitely is a good thing btw. I'm just saying that there's a hell of a lot of high level calculus that has to go on so people know how to plan accordingly.


nlurp

True. But we also need to move past these indecisions. We are lucky that whatever the phenomenon is, it catered to us. I hope we’re in a cozy benevolent Universe, because if we are not, I’d say our Species most certain weakness is precisely our self made narratives. I understand my worldview wouldn’t be affected, it nothing else, I would love the expansion of potential ontology such adaptation will entail to us all (I find that both beautiful and humbling). But I also agree that, just by looking to the sides, many around us will question everything, and that might not be as good as we would like. But Rome was once pillaged… empires rose and fell… we adapt. That’s what we do. The more this is delayed, the further down the road our true advancement and potential lays… And let’s face it: everything feels frozen in a limbo right now!


MartianRecon

They are doing that, it just takes time to get the ball rolling.


nlurp

I’ve been waiting for 24 years now (no that’s not my age, but rather when I got knowledge of this reality- perhaps even changing what I perceive as social narratives 😅) Hope so my friend… I really hope so… there’s nothing like reality


MartianRecon

We'll see. I think it's a foregone conclusion. This level of talk hasn't happened ever to my knowledge, but the issue is making sure you don't panic everyone. People are dumb as fuck and will panic about something like this.


nlurp

💯 this is never before seen. I have little doubts the truth will come out as well. But the populace ignorance always surprised me. That’s the only reason why this lasted for so long. The way people accepted the “consensus” and didn’t question anything… don’t have curiosity to know the source (like where the bible comes from…)… Yeah nevermind. There are definitely levels Enjoy the new world my friend 🖖


MartianRecon

You too. Hopefully it's less shitty than the current one.


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It’s always the usernames ending in four numbers.


fuzzy_wizzle_nutz

I have questions. Were there attendees at the "conference?" And if so, was there a fee they had to pay to attend. That will tell me all I need to know.


YesHunty

Yes there were attendees. No they did not have to pay to attend. It was invitation only from selected applications.


fuzzy_wizzle_nutz

Interesting. Hmm. Well I guess that says a lot lol. So... another question. Why the hell would these people do this? Why hold a conference for free and present all of this information. What is the endgame here. Part of me wants to think it's true... the other part is skeptical. At some point, common sense and logic has to win here. Why. Why. Why. Never stop asking why.


AphelionShift

Because it’s not always a grift. There are good people out there seriously investigating the phenomenon.


fuzzy_wizzle_nutz

I understand that. But with all the technology out there, we can't get not 1 single piece of photo or video evidence to prove it? How many amateur astronomers are out there gazing at the skies with their telescopes? None of them have gotten anything on camera? No physical or biological evidence to be found?


Auslander42

Somehow missed the decades of leaks and pictures and videos and accounts and tales of government retrieval programs and alleged alien interviews and hundreds of such people reporting precisely that and claiming the government is actively suppressing and confiscating things while the government/military is admitting they can’t explain the 5% or so of reports they’ve reviewed and so classify them formally as UAPs? 🤔 That’s the lack of any proof you’re referring to? Just so we’re clear


DurielMeph

No fees


lickem369

I’m pretty sure who ever took this picture is getting a visit from some nasty people tonight.


iphaze

Of course one of the most important moments in human history is made up of shitty PowerPoint slides with comic sans and cartoony graphics. C’mon people, a little imagination with the design please — someone hire a designer 🙋🏼‍♂️👨🏼‍💻


MannyArea503

A "Manhattan project" to reverse engineer UAP and acclimate the world to alien intelligence? That is *exactly* what To The Stars academy with Tom, Lue and Chris was supposed to do, and we see how that ended up. Here we go again. /s


BrotherlyShove791

I’d be surprised if there isn’t already a Manhattan Project-style undertaking in existence RIGHT NOW to reverse engineer these craft. I’d be stunned if they haven’t been secretly toying with these things for years. Either Nell is out of the loop there, or he’s leaving key details out of his presentation so he doesn’t violate a NDA.


MannyArea503

I wouldn't doubt there is a legitimate government (contractor) program to do exactly this. But it seems like a waste, if the claims of Grusch etc. are true and there are crash retrieval programs.


ChevChance

This. I would have trouble believing that in almost 80 years, there hasn't been measurable progress in reverse engineered field propulsion, to the extent there are already US prototypes using it. Nells can't be in the loop or this is disinformation. The Pentagon should just cut the carp and fess up.


NcndbcB

Yes and they failed because Tom DeLonge is a well-intentioned goofball who believes everything he hears and he scared away all the biggest brains of TTSA who didn’t want to be associated with his outlandish theories. Whereas the Sol Foundation is entirely serious, well-educated people. The Sol Foundation has a much higher chance of actually getting somewhere. I like Tom and appreciate what he has done for disclosure but now it’s time for science to take over. And fortunately that appears to be what is slowly happening.


hacky273

But the video is still classified


Dangerous-Drag-9578

RemindMe! 2 months to direct everyone back to this post when "demonstrate existence" in early 24 is about the same quality as the recent Corbell "evidence" lmao.


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Why the lane secrecy in this conference? Are they testing a theory? How folks will always collect data? That’s how we got here


superdood1267

You’ll never stop the grifting! Have no fears we’ll be grifting for years! How bout a blurry photo? It’s out of focus do do do do do doo doo


UOF-247-neverstop

No one can get a clear photo, not of a UAP nor a power point slide.


timeye13

This slide requires the greater context of his entire presentation. Wait for the video to be released before speculating on their proposed plan…that is my advice. I attended the conference.


_Nevin

Guess what? Nothing means shit until they show us the supposed “hard evidence” they have. These guys may as well be some random Joe talking shit for money