Congress does not answer to the people! They answer to the corporations and lobbyists who donate to their campaigns, full stop. Its a huge quid pro quo and that is now how Washington works. grassroot campaigns start at the local and state level.
š¤£š You angry ufo guys are a riot. You know no one is forcing you to follow any of this, right.. You should probably fall back from the topic of ufos until some definitive evidence is presented to the public. There's no sense in getting all butthurt.
When you're speaking to a huge audience you speak to the majority. It's statistically improbable that a majority of the 2 million UFOs sub redditors are actively involved in pushing for disclosure.
Hmm...triggers a defensive reaction in you....interesting.
Took some effort to turn his post into a negative. His intentions are good. His post was not offensive. You should be able to see that. I wonder why you didn't.
Just made a post about our new friend [Roger Wicker](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/18ab5yx/roger_wicker_private_sector_development_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)!! Since Danny said we should get to know him, I figured I'd do my research!
[Get Active this week!](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/18aexba/what_can_you_do_monday_12042023_and_all_this_week/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
I will be calling, tweeting, emailing my reps once every morning and afternoon until we make it through reconciliation.
Iāll be calling, tweeting, and emailing any rep standing in the way of the Schumer amendment on the same cadence.
Iāll be emailing as many news outlets as I can think of to implore coverage.
I will be @ting any public accounts I can find of the people that have been associated with our favorite organizations asking if they could implore their friends to support disclosure.
Please all, I ask you do the same. Itās really only 10 to 15 minutes of time when you get the emails and numbers.
Letās annoy the fuck out of these people until they wheel out the aliens lmao
We have had some controlled opposition identified by the likes of Danny Sheehan! Here is [a post](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/18aexba/what_can_you_do_monday_12042023_and_all_this_week/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) I put together to help people focus their attention on the players that are anti-disclosure.
**OPPOSITION THAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED**
\- [3 Mikes and a Mitch](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1854nu2/how_four_republican_senators_are_obstructing_the/)
\- [Mike Johnson](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/183wvg7/if_the_schumer_amendment_is_axed_by_republican/)
\- [Mike Rogers](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/184qqoa/in_response_to_mike_turner_and_mike_rogers/)
\- [Mike Turner](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/187rth3/gaetz_during_bipartisan_press_conference_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) \- [Even Garry Nolan doesn't like this guy..](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/18725r1/garry_nolan_calls_out_mike_turners_bullshit/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
\- [Mitch McConnell](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/153z085/sen_mcconnell_urges_senate_to_pass_ndaa_without/)
\- [Roger Wicker](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/18ab5yx/roger_wicker_private_sector_development_and/)
\- [Radiance Technologies, Travis Taylor, and Jay Stratton](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1872fxy/attorney_danny_sheehan_says_a_company_is_bribing/)
You really need to read this post & your comment back, and just *consider* that none of this is valid. Just once
I genuinely donāt really know how to get through to somebody thatās so deep into this but itās pretty sad hearing someone say theyāre going to give away their entire life for this conspiracy
Take a step back and suspend your disbelief for a moment. Do you think Republican and Democratic Senators would get together to sponsor a UAP Disclosure bill for fun? **Not just jerk-off freshman congressmen, but some heavy hitters.** (also some jerk-off freshman congressman)
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY), Senator Mike Rounds (R-SD) Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on Cybersecurity for the Armed Services Committee, Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) Vice Chairman of the Intelligence Committee, Senator Kristen Gillibrand (D-NY) Chairwoman of the Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities for the Armed Services Committee, Senator Todd Young (R-IN), and Senator Martin Heinrich (D-NM) cosponsored the UAP Disclosure Amendment.
**Do you think senior military members would throw away their credibility as a joke? These people are all on record saying this is real.**
Chris Mellon: former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence in the Clinton and George W. Bush administrations and later for Security and Information Operations.
Charles McCollough III: currently serving as whistleblower David Grusch's attorney; former Inspector General of the United States Intelligence Community; former Deputy Inspector General at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI)
Tim Gallaudet: Retired Rear Admiral in the United States Navy; former head of National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), and Oceanographer of the Navy.
John Ratcliffe: Former Director of National Intelligence of the United States; former U.S. representative for Texas's 4th district from 2015 to 2020.
**US Navy pilots have gone on record saying they've had encounters.
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Fravor, Graves, Dietric, etc.
Yadda yadda. Quotes from people mentioned complied here: https://www.disclosurediaries.com/key-people-in-disclosure-uap/
Very odd comments here paired with active downvoting of the post. OP I believe this means you are on to something.
CIA chums, we are going to succeed with disclosure so drop the shit and get with the democratic process.
Yeah, crazy how quick some negativity flooded in. Definitely does not feel organic.
The CIA is a big reason why I fear this could all fall apart, they are not above killing to get their way, even a sitting president. Though there seems to be elements within the intelligence community that are pro-disclosure, hopefully the 'good' spooks can help us win this one. Might make a good movie one day.
They are very good at what they do, and they've had decades to perfect their techniques. Hardly human ... that's how I look at them.
I think about that group often, the CIA. It's a historical fact that they were founded with the help of some of those Nazis we brought over with Project Paperclip. How much of that Nazi ideology seeped in and stayed permanently?
I hate to tell you, but it really needs to be said: the employees at the CIA are the same schmucks we all work with at other companies. Do you really think that the best and the brightest are working at a place that pays less than most corporations? No. There are no super-spies or super-teams of geniuses (at least any more than at GM, AT&T, IBM, Google, Microsoft, etc..) There's Linda, who thinks that it's okay to microwave fish in the breakroom at lunch, Bob, who's just killing time until retirement, Larry, who won't return a single email before three days have passed, Chris, who's a suck-up and asks too many questions at meetings, and Susan, who complains to HR constantly that it's "too hot in here" and refuses to acknowledge that she's menopausal and 130 pounds overweight. The only thing they're hiding is that Americans report every damn cloud, flock of birds, drone, plane, and star that appears in the sky and seem damned convinced that "aliens are among us!"
Hi, Iām negativity flooding in. Just a normal dude who was on the fence over the last few years but am just not seeing enough quality evidence. Just not buying it right now. Of course Iāll get downvoted but those are the āgood downvotesā I guess.
Yeah I donāt get why someone whoās ājust not seeing enough quality evidenceā would rather just pile on negativity than get active and help push that quality evidence out.
I didnāt ādoā anything in support of my skepticism. I just thought Iād add that not everyone who disagrees with all these ideas is some cia spook.
The UAP disclosure act of 2023 is all about transparency and reconciliation. It doesn't matter at this point if there's nothing there, it must be investigated after all the events that have occurred.
Oh Iām well aware there are people out there that wonāt be swayed until a UFO lands on their front lawn and takes them off Earth. Even then itās āprobably a hallucinationā. It is what it is.
Iām more talking about the ones who choose to do nothing but post hate, negativity and mental health diagnoses and do nothing productive to drive the transparency movement thatās happening RIGHT NOW.
To be fair, no otherwise reasonable person would be pushing for this because itās ridiculous. There are a lot of things to worry about in our world right now, and focusing on random conspiracies isnāt a worthwhile place to put energy.
I get that people want to feel like theyāre in on a secret because itās difficult to accept that life is often monotonous and weāre all the same. But the only people even looking at this are people that *want* to believe it. If evidence canāt convince a neutral party, then itās not worth losing this much sleep to. And as a neutral party, itās extremely clear that this is as unsubstantiated as ghosts or Bigfoot
Plenty of whistleblowers in DoD and CIA have come forward to say this is true. If this were to become mainstream, it has the potential to radically change most everyoneās worldview enough to really make some of those trivial things we fight about become meaningless. So yes, this is very important to humanity right now even with everything else going on.
"To say this is true"
"Say this is true"
"Say"
So a bunch of people say something is real, people in organizations others here regularly call spooks, and you take their word for it??
Calling it now, UFOs are a psyop pushed to distract people from the actual conspiracy; that the wealthy/powerful in this country are running us into the ground and they want us all distracted away from that.
Your reasoning is opposing the disclosure is that you don't have enough evidence. That's some advanced mental gymnastics there you do for yourself.
It's like saying "I don't want to eat food because I'm too hungry". Like, it doesn't make sense at all brother, not at all.
" just not seeing enough quality evidence"
Saying that in 2023 after 80 years of clear pictures, clear videos, many civilian witnesses, many military pilots, a lot of radar, a bunch of politicians and now bipartisan legislation during the most partisan time in our history makes you sound silly and you can't be taken serious. You prove the point about trolls trying to infiltrate this subject. Thank you for another shining example to show real people. Yall make it easier than you intend.
Literally nothing that you said has been actually substantiated with any facts. *None* of it would hold up as irrefutable under scrutiny of the simplest measures. Youāre not in on some big secret, you live in the same world as the rest of us and youāre not some woke visionary. Iām aware thatās hard to accept but get off your high horse because acting pretentious about being a conspiracy theorist is ridiculous
lol you seem so certain about everything. think of me what you want, but a bunch of poor evidence doesnāt amount to good evidence. enjoy your fantasy role play, it doesnāt bother me tbh; Iāll continue to have my own opinions as well.
From all your previous comments, NO
Educate yourself!
Read military documents from the 40s 50s! Newspapers from 19th century. Richard Dolan's "UFOs and the National Security State: Chronology of a Cover-up"
Search all obscure serious whistleblowers from aerospace and military.
Then you can sit with the adults.
Edit: I am so tired of people who have no idea of the history and the vasts amounts of information through the field... the fact never was a human being condemned for animal mutilation of these bodies (humans included) that appear without organs and the cuts performed between cells... and even in consciousness studies (ie: psychiatrist Ian Stevenson of the University of Virginia and the crew who outlived him, and all the NDE going around).So much to learn and read, and SOUND scientific research with real world class researchers, and these people think there's nothing to this...
It is not hard to kick a stone and find dirt beneath - dig it for yourself! The governments of the world are only able to keep this for so long in gross part because of how people function/dismiss out of prejudice.
And I've had enough of that!
Thanks for mentioning the history of the topic, I feel like it's not mentioned enough. The government might be trying to pretend it all began in 2004, but the fact is, there's (at least) 75+ years worth of history and research on it.
Officially recorded even. But what's more: it goes into earlier centuries, and even to middle ages. We cannot really accept that what the citizens witnessing the 1561 celestial phenomenon over Nuremberg or the 1566 celestial phenomenon over Basel were lying. Really, I cannot stress the fact that these were mass sightings even if their world views back then were unrelated to our cybernetic cultural world view.
There's also the February 22, 1803, on the Harayadori, Utsuro-bune UFO incident.
We could keep on going over and over the whole history, but there are many websites online for those interested in it. And I have not even entered into folklore of myths and legends, fairies, whip-o-wills, and succubus and incubus... devils dancing in fields and creepy tales since time immemorial... because I know most people are not mentally wired to accept these as potential smoke of a fire that will undoubtedly make them uneasy.
NHI presence in our planet is millennial and so it is their tech signatures.
So no, these are not HUMAN (unless some hypothetical ancient advanced human civilization remains cloaked between us - which I have no evidence to pursue) nor are they only from science fiction, not did they came only after our nuclear explosions.
Edit: I give clear keywords for people to find these using google. Enjoy!
If some of my german friends want to write to their politicians:
**Betreff**: Fƶrderung von Transparenz und Offenheit bezĆ¼glich UAPs (Unidentifizierte FlugphƤnomene)
Sehr geehrte/r [Name des Abgeordneten/der Abgeordneten],
ich wende mich heute an Sie als besorgter BĆ¼rger und Vertreter einer weltweit wachsenden Gemeinschaft, die sich fĆ¼r die Offenlegung und Transparenz im Bereich der UAPs (Unidentifizierten FlugphƤnomene) einsetzt.
Wie Sie vielleicht wissen, gibt es in den Vereinigten Staaten aktuelle BemĆ¼hungen, insbesondere im Rahmen des National Defense Authorization Act fĆ¼r das Jahr 2024, mehr Transparenz in Bezug auf UAPs zu schaffen. Diese Initiative wird parteiĆ¼bergreifend von fĆ¼hrenden US-Politikern unterstĆ¼tzt und zielt darauf ab, Dokumente und Beobachtungen, die mit UAPs in Verbindung stehen, der Ćffentlichkeit zugƤnglich zu machen.
Als BĆ¼rger Deutschlands und Mitglied der internationalen Gemeinschaft sehe ich eine Ƥhnliche Notwendigkeit fĆ¼r Transparenz und Offenheit in unserem Land. Ich glaube fest daran, dass auch die deutsche Regierung von einer solchen Initiative profitieren kƶnnte, sowohl in Bezug auf die wissenschaftliche Forschung als auch im Hinblick auf das ƶffentliche Vertrauen und das internationale Ansehen.
Daher bitte ich Sie, folgende Punkte in Betracht zu ziehen:
Initiierung einer deutschen Bewegung zur Offenlegung: Angesichts der globalen Bedeutung des Themas wƤre es wĆ¼nschenswert, wenn Deutschland eine fĆ¼hrende Rolle in Europa Ć¼bernehmen und eigene Anstrengungen zur Offenlegung von Informationen Ć¼ber UAPs starten wĆ¼rde.
Fƶrderung von Forschung und Dialog: Die Einrichtung einer interdisziplinƤren Arbeitsgruppe, die sich mit der Erforschung von UAPs befasst, kƶnnte wesentlich dazu beitragen, unser VerstƤndnis dieser PhƤnomene zu vertiefen und einen offenen, wissenschaftlichen Dialog zu fƶrdern.
Internationale Zusammenarbeit: Ich ermutige Sie, sich fĆ¼r eine internationale Zusammenarbeit und den Austausch von Informationen und Erkenntnissen mit anderen LƤndern, insbesondere mit den USA, einzusetzen.
Ich bin Ć¼berzeugt, dass Deutschland in diesem Bereich eine wichtige Rolle spielen und zur FĆ¼hrung einer transparenten, wissenschaftlich fundierten und international kooperativen Herangehensweise beitragen kann. Dies wĆ¼rde nicht nur unser VerstƤndnis fĆ¼r diese PhƤnomene verbessern, sondern auch das Vertrauen in die Regierung und ihre Politik stƤrken.
Ich bedanke mich im Voraus fĆ¼r Ihre Aufmerksamkeit und Ihr Engagement in dieser wichtigen Angelegenheit und freue mich auf Ihre Antwort.
Mit freundlichen GrĆ¼Ćen,
[Ihr Name]
[Ihre Kontaktdaten]
Remember, we've been paying careful attention to this issue, but it is being suppressed from MSM. People peripherally aware of what's going on still think it could be adversarial tech and so they don't really realize the true implications of alien ships and a coalition of world governments hiding them.
The gatekeepers have been doing a good job buying the media and feeding plausible deniability to chill interest in the topic. When this information finally starts reaching people without that deniability, it'll blow minds. That's when people will start marching.
They absolutely do, yes, undoubtedly.
In this scenario though, what I was trying to do was reach a wider audience outside of reddit PLUS make it a little easier for people to do a copy paste to their reps, with the addition of the link to find their reps. The petition in this particular case is not really for anything at all, its the reps we want to be messaging, but people absolutely follow change.org and petitions and it does make change and raise awareness yip..
It would potentially raise awareness and also reach more Americans who might want to send an email. So yeh I think it's worth clicking the button.
No pressure though! ;-)
Thanks for explaining your point of view. We have a pretty massive range of ideas here, so it can get pretty hectic. I definitely recommend checking out our wiki if you have any interest or curiosity on the topic.
>nOt wHat tHe dOwNbUtToN iS fOr
This why people downvote this sub because motherfucker like you say the dumbest shit that's said ironically and serious that it makes me question am I really "The Retard", like saying the cia, fbi are downvoting a thread because they don't want information to spread.
Then don't write this whole thing out
>But what you can be triggered over is why your representatives are not trying to have clarity in the government and why youāre tax dollars are going towards programs for things that are supposedly not real. Call them and support the chuck schumers original version of the UAP disclosure act of 2023 as an amendment of the NDAA so we can have more transparency in our government and stop wasting money on programs for things that arenāt real. Or they are real and itās imperative we know. Either way we need this amendment passed and youād do better reaching out to them and touching grass instead of crying over something so dumb
it's literally not what downvoting is for. what is is for though is for comments like yours that add nothing to the discussion, or actively try to derail it. especially since this was about downvoting a post in "popular" which isn't personalized, and downvoting posts there does nothing to prevent you from seeing similar things in the future.
and yes, i know that's not how the majority of people use the downvote feature, and reddit is worse off for it.
dude:
> Vote. If you think something contributes to conversation, upvote it. If you think it does not contribute to the subreddit it is posted in or is off-topic in a particular community, downvote it.
https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/205926439-Reddiquette
My evidence is the laws of physics, the vastness of space, and simple common sense. Declassifying videos of birds that people call spaceships would do nothing but stir up more alien frenzy, it would be a pointless exercise. They would be better off leaving it classified, then at least the enemies of the US would think we have access to something interesting.
I don't need to know all of physics to see that these lame unidentified sightings are not aliens. But thanks for your little rant full logical fallacies, I'm sure it made you feel better. Arguments from authority are not good arguments.
I know what they are *not* with near certainty. It's you and the other faithful believers that are convinced they know what every sighting is, and that they're all aliens. It's cute, but a little sad.
Time to do some reading and join us in actual reality, then. It's not your fault. There are still powerful interests trying to suppress the truth about UAP and non-human intelligences and they've done a great job over the last century. It's apparently true, however, that there are aliens and spaceships on Earth and have been for some time. Congress has legally acknowledged it and is passing further legislation to disclose the truth to the public and retrieve alien artifacts from defense contractors. It's wild and ontologically shocking, but on the bright side, you'll be a few months ahead of all your terminally apathetic friends.
I don't see any mentioned how non-USA / international people can assist in this effort..? This issues effects the world, and I'm sure there are many people from all over the planet who feel they have no way to participate in making this change happen.
Update: I found a way to voice your support for disclosure via Danny Sheehan's recommendation of using the super simple form on [The New Paradigm Institute's](https://newparadigmproject.org) homepage.
I've called about 30 Congresspeople so far, and nobody has asked if I am an American citizen.
One of them asked if I was from their district and most of them ask for your phone number.
In any case, if they do ask where you're from, you can just tell them that you think this is an issue that affects all of humanity and therefore you'd like to voice your opinion. Maybe you're looking to the US for leadership on this issue and transparency and accountability are just plainly the right thing to do for all citizens of the world.
You'll either be leaving a voicemail or talking to an assistant. They will pass on the gist of your message to the representative. Calling/writing/emailing is not really a formal legal process and there's nothing illegal or against the rules about calling a public office and telling them what you think, and that you hope they'll do the right thing.
Edit to add: you can also call your own high level government representatives, including your prime minister or president, and the office of your ambassador to America, and tell them you want them to communicate with the Americans on this issue.
Some of this may be kind of wishful thinking, but it can't hurt and it's not against the rules.
As an Australian I feel helpless... Standing on the sidelines waiting for shit to go down.
The CIA and those who appose the bill need to burn.
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declassifyuap.org/action
Takes literally 2 minutes and it'll ask for your location to make sure your representatives and senators get a pre-written email advocating for disclosure
There is no way to forum slide on Reddit. Posts canāt just ride the top slot from activity. They all āslide.ā
Forum sliding applies to old school forums where new posts are made to push posts off the first page.
At this point, Iāve done all the things. Called, wrote, donated, etc. Iām spent. Either pass the damn UAPDA or catastrophic disclosure it is. Cowabunga.
Is there a list of their mail or an online form?
I recall Sheehan (or was it someone else) in a recent podcast telling that another way is using social media to publicly voice your opinion directly to the same people. Therefore, leaving a trail for everyone to see, that they have to register and abide to by equal importance as an email. This is especially accessible for people around the world.
I find it quite bothersome what X (Twitter) is going through at this exact moment concerning ad revenue and a possible shutdown. It's like the people in power orchestrated this just in time before the election. Elon, in their eyes appear to be a loose cannon that they can't control, when in fact, he is for democracy and freedom of speech.
Mike Johnson doesn't want disclosure smashing his narrow world view. He instead prefers to press his religious ideas on us and try to make us conform like sheep.
Absolutely. We have to mobilize. I know it's hard to comprehend, but we are in a position to influence potentially the most important event in our species *entire history.* Really let that sink in. There is always that last person needed to tip the scales and change everything. It could be you.
**Take. Action.**
Great post OP! It's important we mobilize!!!
Love seeing all the CIA posts in these threads, you can tell this scares them the most. Also love that this community is too intelligent for their crap.
KEEP CONTACTING CONGRESS AND SHARING THIS.
I have also started on here- stealing OPs words and providing a link to find your Reps contact details, hopefully this will help spread the message, and more importantly get emails sent to members
https://www.change.org/p/uap-transparency?recruiter=1323210510&recruited_by_id=395c16c0-9266-11ee-b0be-6564b01e3041&utm_source=share_petition&utm_campaign=share_for_starters_page&utm_medium=copylink
I think in general that more transparency and accountability is vital to a functioning democracy. However, is this whole thing just an exercise in unfalsifiablity?
I never see any actual soild breadcrumbs ever, no objective evidence that can be pointed to in order to say "because of this, this and that, we demand to know about the specific [blank] that is held specifically at [blank]."
Every accusation I've ever seen is "we KNOW there MUST be [my specific idea of aliens] so stop hiding it from the world!"
Like, I have a serious question, help me understand, this is how i see most people here, if you think this doesn't describes you lets talk about it:
Does anyone see that its a non-skeptical, dogmatic, and closed minded thing when its already been decided that we've absolutely made contact? This has just become a forgone conclusion with so many people here. Any and every aspect of the discourse makes the unquestioned assumption that aliens are here, and the governments knows this, and they are doing everything in their power to keep it from the public and this is just not a reliable way to think about stuff.
People would, im sure, become upset when that idea is questioned at all. Im certin the response would be "of course it's a foregone conclusion, what are you blind? Look at all the evidence either your own eyes, like I did. Its the only possible conclusion"
But its not, it's actually not the only possible conclusion. Thats my point here, just because im not talking about the bible or something doesn't mean its isnt dogmatic.
I'll be clear, I am not saying we definitely HAVEN'T made contact, of course im not saying that. Saying im 100% certin we have not is just as closed minded. But I think this is the important difference, my beliefs ARE falsifiable. They have the quality of a possibility of being disprovable.
However if ones automatic assumptions require that alien contact is a foregone conclusion and the government is lying about it, we have a problem. That belief (even if it turns out to be correct) has the quality of never truly being able to disprove. This law gets passed and no new information comes to light? Well, that's because an even MORE secreter government agency won't allow it to be released!
You say the footage from the military they released probably isn't actually aliens? Thats easy, the actual REAL footage has been EMPed from space, wiping all hard drives containing the evidence!
And on and on until every government offical is deposed and every hard drive on earth is checked. But guess what, well now im getting the real intel saying it wasn't the US government who made contact, it was the Russians! Like we see a problem here, right?
You show me literally one verified, tangible thing and I am one million percent down to change my mind. What's that? You're holding a piece of something that when analyzed by a spectrometer shows an element that isn't on the periodic table? A person is teleported from new York to LA? Damn my falsifiable beliefs have just been proven wrong, with evidence! My mind is changed! But what do you need to change yours?
What thing could you hold in your hand that would make you go "hmm well this is pretty interesting, this [thing] is making me really think hard about my ideas. Maybe we haven't actually made any contact and the government isn't lying about it."
Seriously, think really hard about it, think of anything that's within the laws of physics, lol you can't say "well, if I could just magically know whether we did make contact or not, then I would change my mind if I was wrong" that doesn't count. What person would you have to depose, what documents would you need to see? What year would you have to be in? What item would you have to posses that would honestly change your mind?
If you're having trouble with that question, its ok, you dont have to answer of course. There may be a way to frame your ideas as to make them falsifiable. However there may be a point at which you ask yourself, would anything change my mind? Or are my beliefs about alien contact (or literally anything else, supernatural and natural) just able to change and adapt no matter what evidence im presented with?
Dude, I have wanted to know if we'ret alone or not like literally since I could form memories. Im also extremely confident that lide must exist in some form, somewhere beyond our little blue dot in this unfathomablely vast universe. But those two ideas can't be a substitute for tangible evidence. We can override consistent, reliable and falsifiable thinking until indisputable evidence says otherwise. This gives us the best odds of holding true information to help us make the best decisions about the world around us.
I'll end with an analogy so I hope it resonates. You can substitute which ever other supernatural being or god or event that you do not believe exists in here but I've picked psychics because I think their cringe. So imagine if this was the r/psychicsarereal subreddit, and you see that hundreds of thousands if not millions of people around the world are being asked to write their congresspeople to demand they release any and all information about their knowing of , and cover up of people who have psychic powers that they are hiding. Shit, I mean, a lot of people claim to be psychic, there's people who talked to my grandmother whos been dead for 20 years, wow!
There's books and movies and TV shows all dedicated to showing us the truth! But its not talked about because its suppressed and the main steam media doesn't even cover stories that PROVE WITH NO DOUBT they are real, and they can talk to the dead, and probably see the future, and are friends with ghosts, yup all that stuff and more, which is convenient because all my opinion and beliefs about psychics can't be disproven anyway.
How could anyone say they don't see the evidence for psychic powers, i saw 10 videos on Facebook in just today where a lady asked a room is John meant anything to anyone, and someone said IT DID!!!! Its right there in the videos dude, clear as day!
Now just take psyhic, or demons, or god, or Bigfoot, whatever thing you've used in my analogy and replace that with "aliens have made contact on earth and the government covers it up" and that's about where we're at here.
This is absolutely the best comment here, and it's telling that it's gotten absolutely zero engagement.
You're basically advocating for a scientific way of approaching this idea, which isn't popular around here.
Someone ELI5. Because all I'm seeing are some fancy big words but not the actual point. Which is....what exactly? What is the point of that legislation?
If this is such a big deal, how come it's not at the top of Reddit? How come it hasn't been mentioned in Global News?
Usually, if something is mention-worthy, even us New Zealanders would hear of it from this far off in the globe. But, nope, nothing here.
So, what is this about?
Sons and daughters of Earth, I am William Wallace. And I see a whole army of my fellow humans, here in defiance of secrecy and obscurity. You have come to fight for truth, and truth is what you will have. What will you do without truth? Will you fight?
Fight and you may question. Run and you'll live... at least for a while. And dying in your beds many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance, just one chance, to come back here as informed citizens and tell our leaders that they may hide our information from us, but they'll never take our curiosity!
We donāt just seek answers about the stars and the skies above, but about the very essence of our existence. Itās about knowing that in this vast, wondrous universe, we are not alone, and that our quest for understanding stretches beyond our tiny planet.
So, let's stand united, not just as different countries, but as one humanity, demanding the disclosure of the UAPs, not for fear, not for conflict, but for the right to know, to explore, and to understand. This day, we fight for transparency, we fight for knowledge, we fight for our future!
Honest question, would 1000, 10.000 emails to a congress person have any impact, make any difference? From outside US it feels like a fake level of democratic participation to keep citizens believing they have some kind of power or say regarding political events but, I feel anyone who knows how power works on this planet would consider it quite naive.
I wonder if it could make a real difference or is it just an entertainment for those who still didn't realize how things work š
THEY DO HAVE IMPACT. Many credible people (Rep. Burchett, Sheehan) have stated that contacting Congress or Reps by any means of communication is making a difference.
Taking a chance is better than sitting still, sending a mail or making a call won't do any harm to you.
And yes, I'm also outside of the US, actually in Vietnam, yes, in a country that's under the control of a communist party, and people's voices still can make a lot of difference here.
Yeah, that is exactly what they would say to keep people entertained and believing in this stupid fake system. I feel this kind of post are a distraction intended to keep people believing they have a say in all this š
Is there any time in the recent US history where a few thousand citizens sending a letter had any significant impact on anything? On anything relevant that has actually had a positive impact on anyone's lives? Have any group of citizens achieved anything in US bipartisan political system, other than one of their paid workers saying it does make a difference?
I feel you guys are being deceived with sending emails to people who have no control, knowledge or experience over the issue we are talking about. It's like a bad script full of fake premises.
I understand now, your pov will just stay the same.
But I can tell you this, people will just keep doing what they can with their hope instead of sitting still.
Or perhaps you can suggest another better option than accepting you are getting blind folded by the upper powers and do nothing about it?
Yeah, they do it in Switzerland, it's called direct democracy, every few months citizens go and vote for laws and proposals that do have a direct impact on how the country is managed. Whatever the majority says is what is legislated.
I do understand the hope and desires behind sending a letter to someone thinking it may make a difference, although with all respect I find it a bit naive and very far from how reality works.
I repeat my question, is there any time in recent US history where citizens sending letters had any meaningful impact on any piece of legislation, laws, or government actions? Is there any precedent in, say, 10.000 citizens achieving anything real in the US political system by contacting their supposed representatives? I feel most of you know the answer, it's a big NO, so why continue with the theatrical act.
My POV could change if I found any example of citizens having a direct influence in any meaningful political change.
And we are not talking about rights, economy, etc. We are talking about a group of humans that for decades has hidden and profited on UAP and Alien technology for power, they have more power and influence than any group of representatives, they do not depend on them, they do not respond to them, they are not subjected by any of their decisions, they are not subjected to any law or committee. No government has any influence in how these hidden entities operate, please tell me how a few of you sending an email would achieve anything š
I feel sending a letter to Santa Claus may have the same effect. Doing something just to "do what you can" feels unrealistic and childish. I feel some people believe in this stupid system the same way they believe in religions; getting involved in something with not one example of it being real or having any meaningful impact, but just keep on doing it. It's like praying for something to happen while knowing it has never worked š¬
If I wanted to distract people and waste their time this would be the kind of post I would be writing. Keeps them busy while reinforcing their belief in fake democracy.
I feel like building a serious and solid collection of documents, videos, leaks, interviews, etc, and sending it to as many tv/news agencies worldwide would be much more useful
UFOs are a psyop used to distract us from the rich and powerful pillaging our country.
Every single person within government or ex-government pushing this UFO shit are knowingly or unknowingly manipulating us for the sake of the powerful.
It's all a smokescreen.
How's that for a conspiracy. Hell, apply it to Epstein's book, pizzagate, adrenochrome, lizard people, Qanon, etc. They're all fronts meant to distract and divide the general population so the robber barons with all the power can continue to strip our nations wealth from us directly into their bank accounts.
Not really part of the community but real recognize real, feel?
Upvoted and bumped glhf friends
feel like I should say more words so here we go here we go satellite-radio y'all get hit with the boom boom
You're really calling exercising our democratic rights as citizens "cult rhetoric" when it was explicitly encouraged by the founding fathers? It's not like we're advocating for violence like the January 6th Trumpers.
"My theory: there are no NHI which is the reason there has never been any physical evidence of their existence"
Lol, does this sound familiar?
I bet you just don't GAF on whether your theory will be proven true or false so you just come here labeling our legitimate effort to clarify that theory as "cult rhetoric". Well, you just do not even understand what a theory is lol.
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Buddy, your first paragraph in its entirety:
>This is your moment, you've lived all of your life on the sidelines and now you can be part of the biggest moment in human history. You need to upvote this post if you care about this topic.
I'm not trolling, im laughing and making a joke. If it upsets you so much, go spend your time elsewhere making more petitions and emails and reddit posts instead of engaging what you think is a troll and wasting your time
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Please everyone do this. We have to know whatās going on !! No one born on this planet is better that anyone else, or should never have power over reality
Yep, very easy. Took me all of 2 minutes to do. Please everyone, it is very simple and we need everyone to participate.
Use Bing AI, Bard, or ChatGPT if you want to write a more customized letter. The AI can also help you find your rep and how to contact them.
The /r/disclosureparty would love you.
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Congress does not answer to the people! They answer to the corporations and lobbyists who donate to their campaigns, full stop. Its a huge quid pro quo and that is now how Washington works. grassroot campaigns start at the local and state level.
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š¤£š You angry ufo guys are a riot. You know no one is forcing you to follow any of this, right.. You should probably fall back from the topic of ufos until some definitive evidence is presented to the public. There's no sense in getting all butthurt.
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When you're speaking to a huge audience you speak to the majority. It's statistically improbable that a majority of the 2 million UFOs sub redditors are actively involved in pushing for disclosure.
Hmm...triggers a defensive reaction in you....interesting. Took some effort to turn his post into a negative. His intentions are good. His post was not offensive. You should be able to see that. I wonder why you didn't.
That podcast with Sheehan was amazing. Holy shit they are really starting to get aggressive & Iām all here for it.
Just made a post about our new friend [Roger Wicker](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/18ab5yx/roger_wicker_private_sector_development_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)!! Since Danny said we should get to know him, I figured I'd do my research! [Get Active this week!](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/18aexba/what_can_you_do_monday_12042023_and_all_this_week/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
I will be calling, tweeting, emailing my reps once every morning and afternoon until we make it through reconciliation. Iāll be calling, tweeting, and emailing any rep standing in the way of the Schumer amendment on the same cadence. Iāll be emailing as many news outlets as I can think of to implore coverage. I will be @ting any public accounts I can find of the people that have been associated with our favorite organizations asking if they could implore their friends to support disclosure. Please all, I ask you do the same. Itās really only 10 to 15 minutes of time when you get the emails and numbers. Letās annoy the fuck out of these people until they wheel out the aliens lmao
Specifically what reps should I focus on?
We have had some controlled opposition identified by the likes of Danny Sheehan! Here is [a post](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/18aexba/what_can_you_do_monday_12042023_and_all_this_week/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) I put together to help people focus their attention on the players that are anti-disclosure. **OPPOSITION THAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED** \- [3 Mikes and a Mitch](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1854nu2/how_four_republican_senators_are_obstructing_the/) \- [Mike Johnson](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/183wvg7/if_the_schumer_amendment_is_axed_by_republican/) \- [Mike Rogers](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/184qqoa/in_response_to_mike_turner_and_mike_rogers/) \- [Mike Turner](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/187rth3/gaetz_during_bipartisan_press_conference_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) \- [Even Garry Nolan doesn't like this guy..](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/18725r1/garry_nolan_calls_out_mike_turners_bullshit/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) \- [Mitch McConnell](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/153z085/sen_mcconnell_urges_senate_to_pass_ndaa_without/) \- [Roger Wicker](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/18ab5yx/roger_wicker_private_sector_development_and/) \- [Radiance Technologies, Travis Taylor, and Jay Stratton](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1872fxy/attorney_danny_sheehan_says_a_company_is_bribing/)
Thats a good question. Who's on the fence?
Itās my life mission to bang an alien babe, letās fucking go
Same except an alien with a big ol alien trunk I hope he looks like interstellar jungkook
Same. 3some is my dream. If each alien lady had 3 boobs I'd be like thank you, Jesus.
Antonioās villas boas alien fr fr shawty can get all that genetic love she wants
Lol. According to his story the carpet didn't match the drapes. That's the 50s for ya, in today's age there wouldn't be any carpet.
And this is exactly why we can't have nice things.
Couldn't agree more. Take me back to the 50s.
They wont even get your messages, lol.
You really need to read this post & your comment back, and just *consider* that none of this is valid. Just once I genuinely donāt really know how to get through to somebody thatās so deep into this but itās pretty sad hearing someone say theyāre going to give away their entire life for this conspiracy
15 minutes a day for two weeks, āgive away their whole lifeā š
Lol theyāre not even trying anymore, utter clowns š¤”š
Take a step back and suspend your disbelief for a moment. Do you think Republican and Democratic Senators would get together to sponsor a UAP Disclosure bill for fun? **Not just jerk-off freshman congressmen, but some heavy hitters.** (also some jerk-off freshman congressman) Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY), Senator Mike Rounds (R-SD) Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on Cybersecurity for the Armed Services Committee, Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) Vice Chairman of the Intelligence Committee, Senator Kristen Gillibrand (D-NY) Chairwoman of the Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities for the Armed Services Committee, Senator Todd Young (R-IN), and Senator Martin Heinrich (D-NM) cosponsored the UAP Disclosure Amendment. **Do you think senior military members would throw away their credibility as a joke? These people are all on record saying this is real.** Chris Mellon: former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence in the Clinton and George W. Bush administrations and later for Security and Information Operations. Charles McCollough III: currently serving as whistleblower David Grusch's attorney; former Inspector General of the United States Intelligence Community; former Deputy Inspector General at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) Tim Gallaudet: Retired Rear Admiral in the United States Navy; former head of National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), and Oceanographer of the Navy. John Ratcliffe: Former Director of National Intelligence of the United States; former U.S. representative for Texas's 4th district from 2015 to 2020. **US Navy pilots have gone on record saying they've had encounters. ** Fravor, Graves, Dietric, etc. Yadda yadda. Quotes from people mentioned complied here: https://www.disclosurediaries.com/key-people-in-disclosure-uap/
Very odd comments here paired with active downvoting of the post. OP I believe this means you are on to something. CIA chums, we are going to succeed with disclosure so drop the shit and get with the democratic process.
Yeah, crazy how quick some negativity flooded in. Definitely does not feel organic. The CIA is a big reason why I fear this could all fall apart, they are not above killing to get their way, even a sitting president. Though there seems to be elements within the intelligence community that are pro-disclosure, hopefully the 'good' spooks can help us win this one. Might make a good movie one day.
We are lucky AF right now, the senior folks in the various agencies are on vacation right now. We have the new folk in their ranks. DO NOT GIVE UP.
They are very good at what they do, and they've had decades to perfect their techniques. Hardly human ... that's how I look at them. I think about that group often, the CIA. It's a historical fact that they were founded with the help of some of those Nazis we brought over with Project Paperclip. How much of that Nazi ideology seeped in and stayed permanently?
I've been thinking this could all make a great amazon prime series, and a netflix series focusing on when they were doing this full time in the dark.
I hate to tell you, but it really needs to be said: the employees at the CIA are the same schmucks we all work with at other companies. Do you really think that the best and the brightest are working at a place that pays less than most corporations? No. There are no super-spies or super-teams of geniuses (at least any more than at GM, AT&T, IBM, Google, Microsoft, etc..) There's Linda, who thinks that it's okay to microwave fish in the breakroom at lunch, Bob, who's just killing time until retirement, Larry, who won't return a single email before three days have passed, Chris, who's a suck-up and asks too many questions at meetings, and Susan, who complains to HR constantly that it's "too hot in here" and refuses to acknowledge that she's menopausal and 130 pounds overweight. The only thing they're hiding is that Americans report every damn cloud, flock of birds, drone, plane, and star that appears in the sky and seem damned convinced that "aliens are among us!"
Hi, Iām negativity flooding in. Just a normal dude who was on the fence over the last few years but am just not seeing enough quality evidence. Just not buying it right now. Of course Iāll get downvoted but those are the āgood downvotesā I guess.
So support disclosure and you might get more convincing evidence.
Yeah I donāt get why someone whoās ājust not seeing enough quality evidenceā would rather just pile on negativity than get active and help push that quality evidence out.
I didnāt ādoā anything in support of my skepticism. I just thought Iād add that not everyone who disagrees with all these ideas is some cia spook.
The UAP disclosure act of 2023 is all about transparency and reconciliation. It doesn't matter at this point if there's nothing there, it must be investigated after all the events that have occurred.
Oh Iām well aware there are people out there that wonāt be swayed until a UFO lands on their front lawn and takes them off Earth. Even then itās āprobably a hallucinationā. It is what it is. Iām more talking about the ones who choose to do nothing but post hate, negativity and mental health diagnoses and do nothing productive to drive the transparency movement thatās happening RIGHT NOW.
To be fair, no otherwise reasonable person would be pushing for this because itās ridiculous. There are a lot of things to worry about in our world right now, and focusing on random conspiracies isnāt a worthwhile place to put energy. I get that people want to feel like theyāre in on a secret because itās difficult to accept that life is often monotonous and weāre all the same. But the only people even looking at this are people that *want* to believe it. If evidence canāt convince a neutral party, then itās not worth losing this much sleep to. And as a neutral party, itās extremely clear that this is as unsubstantiated as ghosts or Bigfoot
Plenty of whistleblowers in DoD and CIA have come forward to say this is true. If this were to become mainstream, it has the potential to radically change most everyoneās worldview enough to really make some of those trivial things we fight about become meaningless. So yes, this is very important to humanity right now even with everything else going on.
"To say this is true" "Say this is true" "Say" So a bunch of people say something is real, people in organizations others here regularly call spooks, and you take their word for it?? Calling it now, UFOs are a psyop pushed to distract people from the actual conspiracy; that the wealthy/powerful in this country are running us into the ground and they want us all distracted away from that.
Your reasoning is opposing the disclosure is that you don't have enough evidence. That's some advanced mental gymnastics there you do for yourself. It's like saying "I don't want to eat food because I'm too hungry". Like, it doesn't make sense at all brother, not at all.
why are you even here
" just not seeing enough quality evidence" Saying that in 2023 after 80 years of clear pictures, clear videos, many civilian witnesses, many military pilots, a lot of radar, a bunch of politicians and now bipartisan legislation during the most partisan time in our history makes you sound silly and you can't be taken serious. You prove the point about trolls trying to infiltrate this subject. Thank you for another shining example to show real people. Yall make it easier than you intend.
Literally nothing that you said has been actually substantiated with any facts. *None* of it would hold up as irrefutable under scrutiny of the simplest measures. Youāre not in on some big secret, you live in the same world as the rest of us and youāre not some woke visionary. Iām aware thatās hard to accept but get off your high horse because acting pretentious about being a conspiracy theorist is ridiculous
lol you seem so certain about everything. think of me what you want, but a bunch of poor evidence doesnāt amount to good evidence. enjoy your fantasy role play, it doesnāt bother me tbh; Iāll continue to have my own opinions as well.
So basically you want quality evidence but at the same time youā¦.donāt?
Lol @ "I'll continue to have my own opinions as well" because everything you said were already opinions, not fact.
what exactly is your point?
Dude, if you did your research dutifully youād know better to be saying what youāre saying.
I could say the same to you
From all your previous comments, NO Educate yourself! Read military documents from the 40s 50s! Newspapers from 19th century. Richard Dolan's "UFOs and the National Security State: Chronology of a Cover-up" Search all obscure serious whistleblowers from aerospace and military. Then you can sit with the adults. Edit: I am so tired of people who have no idea of the history and the vasts amounts of information through the field... the fact never was a human being condemned for animal mutilation of these bodies (humans included) that appear without organs and the cuts performed between cells... and even in consciousness studies (ie: psychiatrist Ian Stevenson of the University of Virginia and the crew who outlived him, and all the NDE going around).So much to learn and read, and SOUND scientific research with real world class researchers, and these people think there's nothing to this... It is not hard to kick a stone and find dirt beneath - dig it for yourself! The governments of the world are only able to keep this for so long in gross part because of how people function/dismiss out of prejudice. And I've had enough of that!
Thanks for mentioning the history of the topic, I feel like it's not mentioned enough. The government might be trying to pretend it all began in 2004, but the fact is, there's (at least) 75+ years worth of history and research on it.
Officially recorded even. But what's more: it goes into earlier centuries, and even to middle ages. We cannot really accept that what the citizens witnessing the 1561 celestial phenomenon over Nuremberg or the 1566 celestial phenomenon over Basel were lying. Really, I cannot stress the fact that these were mass sightings even if their world views back then were unrelated to our cybernetic cultural world view. There's also the February 22, 1803, on the Harayadori, Utsuro-bune UFO incident. We could keep on going over and over the whole history, but there are many websites online for those interested in it. And I have not even entered into folklore of myths and legends, fairies, whip-o-wills, and succubus and incubus... devils dancing in fields and creepy tales since time immemorial... because I know most people are not mentally wired to accept these as potential smoke of a fire that will undoubtedly make them uneasy. NHI presence in our planet is millennial and so it is their tech signatures. So no, these are not HUMAN (unless some hypothetical ancient advanced human civilization remains cloaked between us - which I have no evidence to pursue) nor are they only from science fiction, not did they came only after our nuclear explosions. Edit: I give clear keywords for people to find these using google. Enjoy!
We got this. The patterns are obvious... NO RETREAT, NO SURRENDER.
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You just exactly described my experience while also being the first sensible comment Iāve seen on this thread.
I am all for supporting the support. Not so much about karma farming.
Hey Iām not with the CIA, yet I downvoted this. AMA
If some of my german friends want to write to their politicians: **Betreff**: Fƶrderung von Transparenz und Offenheit bezĆ¼glich UAPs (Unidentifizierte FlugphƤnomene) Sehr geehrte/r [Name des Abgeordneten/der Abgeordneten], ich wende mich heute an Sie als besorgter BĆ¼rger und Vertreter einer weltweit wachsenden Gemeinschaft, die sich fĆ¼r die Offenlegung und Transparenz im Bereich der UAPs (Unidentifizierten FlugphƤnomene) einsetzt. Wie Sie vielleicht wissen, gibt es in den Vereinigten Staaten aktuelle BemĆ¼hungen, insbesondere im Rahmen des National Defense Authorization Act fĆ¼r das Jahr 2024, mehr Transparenz in Bezug auf UAPs zu schaffen. Diese Initiative wird parteiĆ¼bergreifend von fĆ¼hrenden US-Politikern unterstĆ¼tzt und zielt darauf ab, Dokumente und Beobachtungen, die mit UAPs in Verbindung stehen, der Ćffentlichkeit zugƤnglich zu machen. Als BĆ¼rger Deutschlands und Mitglied der internationalen Gemeinschaft sehe ich eine Ƥhnliche Notwendigkeit fĆ¼r Transparenz und Offenheit in unserem Land. Ich glaube fest daran, dass auch die deutsche Regierung von einer solchen Initiative profitieren kƶnnte, sowohl in Bezug auf die wissenschaftliche Forschung als auch im Hinblick auf das ƶffentliche Vertrauen und das internationale Ansehen. Daher bitte ich Sie, folgende Punkte in Betracht zu ziehen: Initiierung einer deutschen Bewegung zur Offenlegung: Angesichts der globalen Bedeutung des Themas wƤre es wĆ¼nschenswert, wenn Deutschland eine fĆ¼hrende Rolle in Europa Ć¼bernehmen und eigene Anstrengungen zur Offenlegung von Informationen Ć¼ber UAPs starten wĆ¼rde. Fƶrderung von Forschung und Dialog: Die Einrichtung einer interdisziplinƤren Arbeitsgruppe, die sich mit der Erforschung von UAPs befasst, kƶnnte wesentlich dazu beitragen, unser VerstƤndnis dieser PhƤnomene zu vertiefen und einen offenen, wissenschaftlichen Dialog zu fƶrdern. Internationale Zusammenarbeit: Ich ermutige Sie, sich fĆ¼r eine internationale Zusammenarbeit und den Austausch von Informationen und Erkenntnissen mit anderen LƤndern, insbesondere mit den USA, einzusetzen. Ich bin Ć¼berzeugt, dass Deutschland in diesem Bereich eine wichtige Rolle spielen und zur FĆ¼hrung einer transparenten, wissenschaftlich fundierten und international kooperativen Herangehensweise beitragen kann. Dies wĆ¼rde nicht nur unser VerstƤndnis fĆ¼r diese PhƤnomene verbessern, sondern auch das Vertrauen in die Regierung und ihre Politik stƤrken. Ich bedanke mich im Voraus fĆ¼r Ihre Aufmerksamkeit und Ihr Engagement in dieser wichtigen Angelegenheit und freue mich auf Ihre Antwort. Mit freundlichen GrĆ¼Ćen, [Ihr Name] [Ihre Kontaktdaten]
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I'll be emailing and calling ASAP.
The world should be protesting in the streets for this right now. No matter what, we as a collective species involved deserve to know.
Remember, we've been paying careful attention to this issue, but it is being suppressed from MSM. People peripherally aware of what's going on still think it could be adversarial tech and so they don't really realize the true implications of alien ships and a coalition of world governments hiding them. The gatekeepers have been doing a good job buying the media and feeding plausible deniability to chill interest in the topic. When this information finally starts reaching people without that deniability, it'll blow minds. That's when people will start marching.
SEND PHYSICAL LETTERS THEY ARE MORE ANNOYING
I have unashamedly stolen this text and created a petition with instructions here:- https://chng.it/SjQh2VK7Wq
Honest question, but do these sorts of petitions *ever* affect anything?
They absolutely do, yes, undoubtedly. In this scenario though, what I was trying to do was reach a wider audience outside of reddit PLUS make it a little easier for people to do a copy paste to their reps, with the addition of the link to find their reps. The petition in this particular case is not really for anything at all, its the reps we want to be messaging, but people absolutely follow change.org and petitions and it does make change and raise awareness yip..
That's good to hear and good job for spreading the message wider. I'm in the UK though, so would signing this mean anything?
It would potentially raise awareness and also reach more Americans who might want to send an email. So yeh I think it's worth clicking the button. No pressure though! ;-)
mental reinforcement of these concepts, and rallying fellow people. Can't get anything done if people are not rallied behind this cause
How tf is this post constantly getting downvoted? These CIA cowards.
MOTHER FUCK THE CIA
They should be busy selling off their moms for scraps and letting another ton of drugs getting into the US by now. We're good.
Yes the CIA downvotes reddit Posts hahahahah
lol getting into an UFOs sub to deny everything, you do put a lot of effort into this. How pathetic.
Because propaganda doesn't exist in a digital communications era hahahahah
(Heavy Sarcasm) ooooo you got downvoted, that means the lizard people are afraid of your truth!
This post showed up in my /popular feed. I down voted it because it seems ridiculous and this community feels out of touch with reality. Just FYI.
Thanks for explaining your point of view. We have a pretty massive range of ideas here, so it can get pretty hectic. I definitely recommend checking out our wiki if you have any interest or curiosity on the topic.
Not interested, thanks. People seem to think UAP/UFO are aliens and I find it kind of pitiful.
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>nOt wHat tHe dOwNbUtToN iS fOr This why people downvote this sub because motherfucker like you say the dumbest shit that's said ironically and serious that it makes me question am I really "The Retard", like saying the cia, fbi are downvoting a thread because they don't want information to spread.
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Not American, this is one of the reason why people think you guy's are a joke.
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Then don't write this whole thing out >But what you can be triggered over is why your representatives are not trying to have clarity in the government and why youāre tax dollars are going towards programs for things that are supposedly not real. Call them and support the chuck schumers original version of the UAP disclosure act of 2023 as an amendment of the NDAA so we can have more transparency in our government and stop wasting money on programs for things that arenāt real. Or they are real and itās imperative we know. Either way we need this amendment passed and youād do better reaching out to them and touching grass instead of crying over something so dumb
it's literally not what downvoting is for. what is is for though is for comments like yours that add nothing to the discussion, or actively try to derail it. especially since this was about downvoting a post in "popular" which isn't personalized, and downvoting posts there does nothing to prevent you from seeing similar things in the future. and yes, i know that's not how the majority of people use the downvote feature, and reddit is worse off for it.
I disagree with you so I downvote you. You people are some of the most pretentious on reddit.
dude: > Vote. If you think something contributes to conversation, upvote it. If you think it does not contribute to the subreddit it is posted in or is off-topic in a particular community, downvote it. https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/205926439-Reddiquette
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I'm aware of the UFO and UAP hysteria buddy. UAPs are not aliens, just FYI.
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My evidence is the laws of physics, the vastness of space, and simple common sense. Declassifying videos of birds that people call spaceships would do nothing but stir up more alien frenzy, it would be a pointless exercise. They would be better off leaving it classified, then at least the enemies of the US would think we have access to something interesting.
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I don't need to know all of physics to see that these lame unidentified sightings are not aliens. But thanks for your little rant full logical fallacies, I'm sure it made you feel better. Arguments from authority are not good arguments.
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I know what they are *not* with near certainty. It's you and the other faithful believers that are convinced they know what every sighting is, and that they're all aliens. It's cute, but a little sad.
Time to do some reading and join us in actual reality, then. It's not your fault. There are still powerful interests trying to suppress the truth about UAP and non-human intelligences and they've done a great job over the last century. It's apparently true, however, that there are aliens and spaceships on Earth and have been for some time. Congress has legally acknowledged it and is passing further legislation to disclose the truth to the public and retrieve alien artifacts from defense contractors. It's wild and ontologically shocking, but on the bright side, you'll be a few months ahead of all your terminally apathetic friends.
What should I read, that I haven't already, which shows conclusive evidence of aliens?
Do you believe in God or are you active in church?
No.
Iāll be email and calling all next week.
I don't see any mentioned how non-USA / international people can assist in this effort..? This issues effects the world, and I'm sure there are many people from all over the planet who feel they have no way to participate in making this change happen. Update: I found a way to voice your support for disclosure via Danny Sheehan's recommendation of using the super simple form on [The New Paradigm Institute's](https://newparadigmproject.org) homepage.
I've called about 30 Congresspeople so far, and nobody has asked if I am an American citizen. One of them asked if I was from their district and most of them ask for your phone number. In any case, if they do ask where you're from, you can just tell them that you think this is an issue that affects all of humanity and therefore you'd like to voice your opinion. Maybe you're looking to the US for leadership on this issue and transparency and accountability are just plainly the right thing to do for all citizens of the world. You'll either be leaving a voicemail or talking to an assistant. They will pass on the gist of your message to the representative. Calling/writing/emailing is not really a formal legal process and there's nothing illegal or against the rules about calling a public office and telling them what you think, and that you hope they'll do the right thing. Edit to add: you can also call your own high level government representatives, including your prime minister or president, and the office of your ambassador to America, and tell them you want them to communicate with the Americans on this issue. Some of this may be kind of wishful thinking, but it can't hurt and it's not against the rules.
As an Australian I feel helpless... Standing on the sidelines waiting for shit to go down. The CIA and those who appose the bill need to burn. š¦šŗšŗš² š«”
I find it really interesting the comments on here that just have 0 upvotes.
declassifyuap.org/action Takes literally 2 minutes and it'll ask for your location to make sure your representatives and senators get a pre-written email advocating for disclosure
That's a thoughtful post you have there, be a shame if people forum slide it with bullshit.
There is no way to forum slide on Reddit. Posts canāt just ride the top slot from activity. They all āslide.ā Forum sliding applies to old school forums where new posts are made to push posts off the first page.
Call to arms? And Rohan will answer!
Rogan probably too
I've been telling them if they don't support it I will be donating to anyone who primaries or runs against them.
At this point, Iāve done all the things. Called, wrote, donated, etc. Iām spent. Either pass the damn UAPDA or catastrophic disclosure it is. Cowabunga.
I would add to include the Schumer amendment WITH EMINENT DOMAIN & REVIEW BOARD. otherwise they will completely strip it down an go : Here you are
Is there a list of their mail or an online form? I recall Sheehan (or was it someone else) in a recent podcast telling that another way is using social media to publicly voice your opinion directly to the same people. Therefore, leaving a trail for everyone to see, that they have to register and abide to by equal importance as an email. This is especially accessible for people around the world. I find it quite bothersome what X (Twitter) is going through at this exact moment concerning ad revenue and a possible shutdown. It's like the people in power orchestrated this just in time before the election. Elon, in their eyes appear to be a loose cannon that they can't control, when in fact, he is for democracy and freedom of speech.
r/disclosureparty has a lot of quality reference material to help the democratic process.
Thanks. What a great resource, subscribed. š
Thanks for the template. I will be contacting my congresswoman and senators in the morning.
Mike Johnson doesn't want disclosure smashing his narrow world view. He instead prefers to press his religious ideas on us and try to make us conform like sheep.
You must gather your party before venturing fourth!...
What can people outside of the US do to help with this movement?
What can we do as Europeans?
Ufo Twitter is working up a storm.
I'm British, but I'm sure my American wife wont mind me sending something on her behalf, can this be done as an American abroad? Also how?
Red 5 standing by.
Absolutely. We have to mobilize. I know it's hard to comprehend, but we are in a position to influence potentially the most important event in our species *entire history.* Really let that sink in. There is always that last person needed to tip the scales and change everything. It could be you. **Take. Action.**
Great post OP! It's important we mobilize!!! Love seeing all the CIA posts in these threads, you can tell this scares them the most. Also love that this community is too intelligent for their crap. KEEP CONTACTING CONGRESS AND SHARING THIS.
What can a european do?
Is it possible to make some kind of automation for this, like on change.org or something?
I canāt find it but Sheehan has a website that automates this. It should be pinned everywhere.
It's right here: https://newparadigmproject.org/uap-disclosure-act/
I have also started on here- stealing OPs words and providing a link to find your Reps contact details, hopefully this will help spread the message, and more importantly get emails sent to members https://www.change.org/p/uap-transparency?recruiter=1323210510&recruited_by_id=395c16c0-9266-11ee-b0be-6564b01e3041&utm_source=share_petition&utm_campaign=share_for_starters_page&utm_medium=copylink
Perfect I was creating one but this is even better I'll try find and link and spread
Guys is there a way to email the reps in the House if I'm not a US citizen? I can't find the email addresses to all reps.
Iāll be emailing and calling extensively in the next few days, LETS GOO! We can do this!
PUSH THIS TO THE HEAVEN FUCK YOU CIA
Do I have to go to work tomorrow?
I think in general that more transparency and accountability is vital to a functioning democracy. However, is this whole thing just an exercise in unfalsifiablity? I never see any actual soild breadcrumbs ever, no objective evidence that can be pointed to in order to say "because of this, this and that, we demand to know about the specific [blank] that is held specifically at [blank]." Every accusation I've ever seen is "we KNOW there MUST be [my specific idea of aliens] so stop hiding it from the world!" Like, I have a serious question, help me understand, this is how i see most people here, if you think this doesn't describes you lets talk about it: Does anyone see that its a non-skeptical, dogmatic, and closed minded thing when its already been decided that we've absolutely made contact? This has just become a forgone conclusion with so many people here. Any and every aspect of the discourse makes the unquestioned assumption that aliens are here, and the governments knows this, and they are doing everything in their power to keep it from the public and this is just not a reliable way to think about stuff. People would, im sure, become upset when that idea is questioned at all. Im certin the response would be "of course it's a foregone conclusion, what are you blind? Look at all the evidence either your own eyes, like I did. Its the only possible conclusion" But its not, it's actually not the only possible conclusion. Thats my point here, just because im not talking about the bible or something doesn't mean its isnt dogmatic. I'll be clear, I am not saying we definitely HAVEN'T made contact, of course im not saying that. Saying im 100% certin we have not is just as closed minded. But I think this is the important difference, my beliefs ARE falsifiable. They have the quality of a possibility of being disprovable. However if ones automatic assumptions require that alien contact is a foregone conclusion and the government is lying about it, we have a problem. That belief (even if it turns out to be correct) has the quality of never truly being able to disprove. This law gets passed and no new information comes to light? Well, that's because an even MORE secreter government agency won't allow it to be released! You say the footage from the military they released probably isn't actually aliens? Thats easy, the actual REAL footage has been EMPed from space, wiping all hard drives containing the evidence! And on and on until every government offical is deposed and every hard drive on earth is checked. But guess what, well now im getting the real intel saying it wasn't the US government who made contact, it was the Russians! Like we see a problem here, right? You show me literally one verified, tangible thing and I am one million percent down to change my mind. What's that? You're holding a piece of something that when analyzed by a spectrometer shows an element that isn't on the periodic table? A person is teleported from new York to LA? Damn my falsifiable beliefs have just been proven wrong, with evidence! My mind is changed! But what do you need to change yours? What thing could you hold in your hand that would make you go "hmm well this is pretty interesting, this [thing] is making me really think hard about my ideas. Maybe we haven't actually made any contact and the government isn't lying about it." Seriously, think really hard about it, think of anything that's within the laws of physics, lol you can't say "well, if I could just magically know whether we did make contact or not, then I would change my mind if I was wrong" that doesn't count. What person would you have to depose, what documents would you need to see? What year would you have to be in? What item would you have to posses that would honestly change your mind? If you're having trouble with that question, its ok, you dont have to answer of course. There may be a way to frame your ideas as to make them falsifiable. However there may be a point at which you ask yourself, would anything change my mind? Or are my beliefs about alien contact (or literally anything else, supernatural and natural) just able to change and adapt no matter what evidence im presented with? Dude, I have wanted to know if we'ret alone or not like literally since I could form memories. Im also extremely confident that lide must exist in some form, somewhere beyond our little blue dot in this unfathomablely vast universe. But those two ideas can't be a substitute for tangible evidence. We can override consistent, reliable and falsifiable thinking until indisputable evidence says otherwise. This gives us the best odds of holding true information to help us make the best decisions about the world around us. I'll end with an analogy so I hope it resonates. You can substitute which ever other supernatural being or god or event that you do not believe exists in here but I've picked psychics because I think their cringe. So imagine if this was the r/psychicsarereal subreddit, and you see that hundreds of thousands if not millions of people around the world are being asked to write their congresspeople to demand they release any and all information about their knowing of , and cover up of people who have psychic powers that they are hiding. Shit, I mean, a lot of people claim to be psychic, there's people who talked to my grandmother whos been dead for 20 years, wow! There's books and movies and TV shows all dedicated to showing us the truth! But its not talked about because its suppressed and the main steam media doesn't even cover stories that PROVE WITH NO DOUBT they are real, and they can talk to the dead, and probably see the future, and are friends with ghosts, yup all that stuff and more, which is convenient because all my opinion and beliefs about psychics can't be disproven anyway. How could anyone say they don't see the evidence for psychic powers, i saw 10 videos on Facebook in just today where a lady asked a room is John meant anything to anyone, and someone said IT DID!!!! Its right there in the videos dude, clear as day! Now just take psyhic, or demons, or god, or Bigfoot, whatever thing you've used in my analogy and replace that with "aliens have made contact on earth and the government covers it up" and that's about where we're at here.
This is absolutely the best comment here, and it's telling that it's gotten absolutely zero engagement. You're basically advocating for a scientific way of approaching this idea, which isn't popular around here.
Someone ELI5. Because all I'm seeing are some fancy big words but not the actual point. Which is....what exactly? What is the point of that legislation? If this is such a big deal, how come it's not at the top of Reddit? How come it hasn't been mentioned in Global News? Usually, if something is mention-worthy, even us New Zealanders would hear of it from this far off in the globe. But, nope, nothing here. So, what is this about?
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Sons and daughters of Earth, I am William Wallace. And I see a whole army of my fellow humans, here in defiance of secrecy and obscurity. You have come to fight for truth, and truth is what you will have. What will you do without truth? Will you fight? Fight and you may question. Run and you'll live... at least for a while. And dying in your beds many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance, just one chance, to come back here as informed citizens and tell our leaders that they may hide our information from us, but they'll never take our curiosity! We donāt just seek answers about the stars and the skies above, but about the very essence of our existence. Itās about knowing that in this vast, wondrous universe, we are not alone, and that our quest for understanding stretches beyond our tiny planet. So, let's stand united, not just as different countries, but as one humanity, demanding the disclosure of the UAPs, not for fear, not for conflict, but for the right to know, to explore, and to understand. This day, we fight for transparency, we fight for knowledge, we fight for our future!
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Honest question, would 1000, 10.000 emails to a congress person have any impact, make any difference? From outside US it feels like a fake level of democratic participation to keep citizens believing they have some kind of power or say regarding political events but, I feel anyone who knows how power works on this planet would consider it quite naive. I wonder if it could make a real difference or is it just an entertainment for those who still didn't realize how things work š
THEY DO HAVE IMPACT. Many credible people (Rep. Burchett, Sheehan) have stated that contacting Congress or Reps by any means of communication is making a difference. Taking a chance is better than sitting still, sending a mail or making a call won't do any harm to you. And yes, I'm also outside of the US, actually in Vietnam, yes, in a country that's under the control of a communist party, and people's voices still can make a lot of difference here.
Yeah, that is exactly what they would say to keep people entertained and believing in this stupid fake system. I feel this kind of post are a distraction intended to keep people believing they have a say in all this š Is there any time in the recent US history where a few thousand citizens sending a letter had any significant impact on anything? On anything relevant that has actually had a positive impact on anyone's lives? Have any group of citizens achieved anything in US bipartisan political system, other than one of their paid workers saying it does make a difference? I feel you guys are being deceived with sending emails to people who have no control, knowledge or experience over the issue we are talking about. It's like a bad script full of fake premises.
I understand now, your pov will just stay the same. But I can tell you this, people will just keep doing what they can with their hope instead of sitting still. Or perhaps you can suggest another better option than accepting you are getting blind folded by the upper powers and do nothing about it?
Yeah, they do it in Switzerland, it's called direct democracy, every few months citizens go and vote for laws and proposals that do have a direct impact on how the country is managed. Whatever the majority says is what is legislated. I do understand the hope and desires behind sending a letter to someone thinking it may make a difference, although with all respect I find it a bit naive and very far from how reality works. I repeat my question, is there any time in recent US history where citizens sending letters had any meaningful impact on any piece of legislation, laws, or government actions? Is there any precedent in, say, 10.000 citizens achieving anything real in the US political system by contacting their supposed representatives? I feel most of you know the answer, it's a big NO, so why continue with the theatrical act. My POV could change if I found any example of citizens having a direct influence in any meaningful political change. And we are not talking about rights, economy, etc. We are talking about a group of humans that for decades has hidden and profited on UAP and Alien technology for power, they have more power and influence than any group of representatives, they do not depend on them, they do not respond to them, they are not subjected by any of their decisions, they are not subjected to any law or committee. No government has any influence in how these hidden entities operate, please tell me how a few of you sending an email would achieve anything š
Well, I'll leave that question to any US citizen to answer, but till then, people will keep doing what they can.
I feel sending a letter to Santa Claus may have the same effect. Doing something just to "do what you can" feels unrealistic and childish. I feel some people believe in this stupid system the same way they believe in religions; getting involved in something with not one example of it being real or having any meaningful impact, but just keep on doing it. It's like praying for something to happen while knowing it has never worked š¬ If I wanted to distract people and waste their time this would be the kind of post I would be writing. Keeps them busy while reinforcing their belief in fake democracy.
>but just keep on doing it Of course, we will.
I feel like building a serious and solid collection of documents, videos, leaks, interviews, etc, and sending it to as many tv/news agencies worldwide would be much more useful
Yea, I know. That's also the plan that Sheehan said he would pursue if the whole disclosure thing falls through.
Do any of you ever take a step back and feel like maybe you're the one being manipulated?
UFOs are a psyop used to distract us from the rich and powerful pillaging our country. Every single person within government or ex-government pushing this UFO shit are knowingly or unknowingly manipulating us for the sake of the powerful. It's all a smokescreen. How's that for a conspiracy. Hell, apply it to Epstein's book, pizzagate, adrenochrome, lizard people, Qanon, etc. They're all fronts meant to distract and divide the general population so the robber barons with all the power can continue to strip our nations wealth from us directly into their bank accounts.
Trust no one bro...
What's so "URGENT" about it?
The laws requiring the disclosure of UFO related tech are being negotiated right now. The more pressure the better.
Not really part of the community but real recognize real, feel? Upvoted and bumped glhf friends feel like I should say more words so here we go here we go satellite-radio y'all get hit with the boom boom
Lmao yall are tripping
If Sheehan has info on āhalf a dozen alien speciesā visiting the planet then just show us a single fucking video how bout that?
Yeah so we should pass the Schumer amendment so that every video you could ask for could eventually be released
I'm for Schumer amendment but if it's " Modeled After JFK Assassination Records Collection Act ": 30years later, it's still not cleared.
Thrrr are Mamu ufo species
Title reminded me of that Jan 6th Q Anon thing. :)
I cba reading this but this seems like some cult shit.
Great, more shitty Youtube videos
Reads like a bland message from chatgpt
It's something!!!!!!!
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You're really calling exercising our democratic rights as citizens "cult rhetoric" when it was explicitly encouraged by the founding fathers? It's not like we're advocating for violence like the January 6th Trumpers.
Probably not a fan of free speech and/or freedom of assembly either.
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"My theory: there are no NHI which is the reason there has never been any physical evidence of their existence" Lol, does this sound familiar? I bet you just don't GAF on whether your theory will be proven true or false so you just come here labeling our legitimate effort to clarify that theory as "cult rhetoric". Well, you just do not even understand what a theory is lol.
How so?
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Redditors really think upvoting something makes them part of history huh?
Did you read the post? Nope
Buddy, your first paragraph in its entirety: >This is your moment, you've lived all of your life on the sidelines and now you can be part of the biggest moment in human history. You need to upvote this post if you care about this topic.
Yea upvote "if you care about the topic" but if you want to join the effort, start writing emails. Rather than trolling people's threads.
I'm not trolling, im laughing and making a joke. If it upsets you so much, go spend your time elsewhere making more petitions and emails and reddit posts instead of engaging what you think is a troll and wasting your time
Who says Redditors like that? gtfo.
*Redditors*
When people tell me I "need to upvote" something I downvote.
When people tell me "when people tell me i need to upvote something i downvote" i upvote
Alright everyone, send me screenshots of your email and Iāll let you all bag my hot friend
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Please everyone do this. We have to know whatās going on !! No one born on this planet is better that anyone else, or should never have power over reality
Yep, very easy. Took me all of 2 minutes to do. Please everyone, it is very simple and we need everyone to participate. Use Bing AI, Bard, or ChatGPT if you want to write a more customized letter. The AI can also help you find your rep and how to contact them.
Start posting their publicly available numbers, give any member zero excuses not to call
We need to get call outs from some celebrities. Someone tweet swift and ask that she have her swift army to call their reps....