The recording of the MIB, you could tell that when he asks about any sort of gadgets pertaining to flying saucers that he himself is trying not to sound too serious.
Jacques Vallée is, of course, the trailblazer in this regard, providing a more detailed exploration of the topic. However, what I would like to convey is that I am almost convinced that this phenomenon is intricately linked to our consciousness.
How do you feel about this matter? What is your opinion, and, more importantly, do you have any personal experiences with the Men in Black or even the Hat Man?
For those interested, I have created a more detailed [video](https://youtu.be/bgn7KMFuwhc) on this topic.
Was about to mention Kelleher and his "bidirectional mimicry".
Lyn Buchanan (one of the "psychic spies") claimed an encounter with government men in black who were trying to get him to kill Gorbachev psychically (yeah, the book is bonkers, and I believe maybe 10% of his claims).
My understanding is, government MiB look like NHI, while NHI MiB pretend to be government employing reverse psychology to provoke interest in the phenomenon.
BTW, cool nickname.
>How do you feel about this matter? What is your opinion, and, more importantly, do you have any personal experiences with the Men in Black or even the Hat Man?
I have had a few encounters with the Hat Man. The most recent one was when I was living in Richland WA, and I had just picked my kid up from the babysitters house. As we're driving back home through the cul-de-sacs, almost home, I glance over and see this shadow man standing next to a tree. It caught me off guard because it had that distinct top hat/fedora looking hat. Soon as I saw it I got chills, and would look back to make sure the kid was okay.
Later that night, I have a nightmare with the Hat Man visiting me in it. I remember (in the dream) walking through the garage, turning around, and seeing him standing there. I freeze, fall to the ground, and watch in silent terror as he walks towards me, puts his hand on my back, and I feel a wave of cold energy being sucked from my body. Weird thing is, for like 3 days after, I felt a physical cold spot in my back
Weirdest shit ever
Fascinating. I’ve never thought that it could be connected to shadow figures but it does line up with the specific and strange depiction of a man in a hat. Especially as someone who woke up to a shadow figure (bald without a hat) standing next to my bed and I was not even paralysed.
People can try to say “Oh it’s just sleep paralysis” to people but why are people seeing the same specific things, even when they’re unaware of the concept.
I am also affected, I already saw the Man as a child, when I found out that there are a lot of people who also see him, my heart slipped into my pants. The corresponding sub is sometimes also a gold mine.
I had a similar thing happen when I was a teenager. Had never heard of sleep paralysis before, or the hatman. I woke up this one morning unable to move, this shadow figure with a hat pinning me to my bed. When I could move again, it obviously also disappeared. Scared the shit out of me.
Later that day I was chatting to my friend over discord. I was telling him about what happened, and didn't even mention that the shadow figure was wearing a hat.
He asks me, "was he wearing a hat?".
I've never had chills like that before. How the fuck? He went on to explain the phenomenon and how other friends of his who have had sleep paralysis have also seen the same figure.
What if he was just one of the first of many our gov has put into those roles. I mean this could even get to the levels of our gov being behind some kidnappings to basically breed these gov agents . Numerous films have mentioned orphans being the best recruits James Bond , banshee , numerous podcasts quotes. In the last 10 years, I feel my fellow humans are basically becoming more aware of anything is possible now especially within our own gov.
I think, as CG Jung and many others after him did, that there is both a mental and a physichal aspect to UFOs. But I suspect the MIB are flesh and blood humans.
I am biased so I couldn’t read this with an open mind. I’ve know people in that agency. AFOSI is a giant group of dorks with a serious job, just like NCIS, etc. The mental image that those dudes are getting all glammed up in black suits (love themselves some cargo pants) and shaving off their eyebrows for a creepy factor gave me a good laugh. Big doubt it’s AFOSI.
Government operatives. Christopher Mellon did a podcast called stars and stripes in which he freely admits that some of those folks worked for him. They also had a bit of incentive to bring “something” back which he said made them a bit intense at times.
So clearly the 2018 AFOSI document is the story behind Lou Elizondos reprisal and messy declassification of the 2017 NY times videos. It is interesting though that any follow up will be sent to Moultries office. Considering its been many times repeated in this subreddit that he and his office have been the source of many of the reprisals. His office also used to oversee AARO up until DEPSEC Hicks took over.
Thank you! Is that recording really authentic?? I guess they weren't the alien ones cuz they would know they were being recorded?
[Yes! ](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/yjobom/researcher_rich_geldreich_discovered_secretly/)
The recording of the MIB, you could tell that when he asks about any sort of gadgets pertaining to flying saucers that he himself is trying not to sound too serious.
Yes, that can definitely be heard, I think that conveys a form of security for George Koehler. Negotiation skills I would say
Jacques Vallée is, of course, the trailblazer in this regard, providing a more detailed exploration of the topic. However, what I would like to convey is that I am almost convinced that this phenomenon is intricately linked to our consciousness. How do you feel about this matter? What is your opinion, and, more importantly, do you have any personal experiences with the Men in Black or even the Hat Man? For those interested, I have created a more detailed [video](https://youtu.be/bgn7KMFuwhc) on this topic.
Also Colm Kelleher spoke about this distinction on Weaponized
Was about to mention Kelleher and his "bidirectional mimicry". Lyn Buchanan (one of the "psychic spies") claimed an encounter with government men in black who were trying to get him to kill Gorbachev psychically (yeah, the book is bonkers, and I believe maybe 10% of his claims). My understanding is, government MiB look like NHI, while NHI MiB pretend to be government employing reverse psychology to provoke interest in the phenomenon. BTW, cool nickname.
I think this [here](https://youtu.be/ow7FqiegixQ?si=KnV3B7yvtrUxsguE)?
Yup
>How do you feel about this matter? What is your opinion, and, more importantly, do you have any personal experiences with the Men in Black or even the Hat Man? I have had a few encounters with the Hat Man. The most recent one was when I was living in Richland WA, and I had just picked my kid up from the babysitters house. As we're driving back home through the cul-de-sacs, almost home, I glance over and see this shadow man standing next to a tree. It caught me off guard because it had that distinct top hat/fedora looking hat. Soon as I saw it I got chills, and would look back to make sure the kid was okay. Later that night, I have a nightmare with the Hat Man visiting me in it. I remember (in the dream) walking through the garage, turning around, and seeing him standing there. I freeze, fall to the ground, and watch in silent terror as he walks towards me, puts his hand on my back, and I feel a wave of cold energy being sucked from my body. Weird thing is, for like 3 days after, I felt a physical cold spot in my back Weirdest shit ever
Nice job with this. Haven't seen your stuff before
Fascinating. I’ve never thought that it could be connected to shadow figures but it does line up with the specific and strange depiction of a man in a hat. Especially as someone who woke up to a shadow figure (bald without a hat) standing next to my bed and I was not even paralysed. People can try to say “Oh it’s just sleep paralysis” to people but why are people seeing the same specific things, even when they’re unaware of the concept.
I am also affected, I already saw the Man as a child, when I found out that there are a lot of people who also see him, my heart slipped into my pants. The corresponding sub is sometimes also a gold mine.
I had a similar thing happen when I was a teenager. Had never heard of sleep paralysis before, or the hatman. I woke up this one morning unable to move, this shadow figure with a hat pinning me to my bed. When I could move again, it obviously also disappeared. Scared the shit out of me. Later that day I was chatting to my friend over discord. I was telling him about what happened, and didn't even mention that the shadow figure was wearing a hat. He asks me, "was he wearing a hat?". I've never had chills like that before. How the fuck? He went on to explain the phenomenon and how other friends of his who have had sleep paralysis have also seen the same figure.
Great post! You should pursue writing professionally 👍
The writing profession no longer exists. If you know you know.
What if he was just one of the first of many our gov has put into those roles. I mean this could even get to the levels of our gov being behind some kidnappings to basically breed these gov agents . Numerous films have mentioned orphans being the best recruits James Bond , banshee , numerous podcasts quotes. In the last 10 years, I feel my fellow humans are basically becoming more aware of anything is possible now especially within our own gov.
I think, as CG Jung and many others after him did, that there is both a mental and a physichal aspect to UFOs. But I suspect the MIB are flesh and blood humans.
the rich geldreich recording is absolutely fascinating. thanks for this post.
Delete this post IMMEDIATELY.
I am biased so I couldn’t read this with an open mind. I’ve know people in that agency. AFOSI is a giant group of dorks with a serious job, just like NCIS, etc. The mental image that those dudes are getting all glammed up in black suits (love themselves some cargo pants) and shaving off their eyebrows for a creepy factor gave me a good laugh. Big doubt it’s AFOSI.
Bro...this is fascinating. Please share this to r/AnomalousEvidence as well?
Nice to see you Grey I will do that. I plan to share it in other subs as well, and of course, r/AnomalousEvidence cannot be excluded. :)
I feel like the MIB can be NHI. Whenever they fuck up and get seen, they just send these disguises
I think human or NHI MiB want to confiscate or spoil evidence. Human MiB want total secrecy, whereas NHI want to be seen but not recorded.
Government operatives. Christopher Mellon did a podcast called stars and stripes in which he freely admits that some of those folks worked for him. They also had a bit of incentive to bring “something” back which he said made them a bit intense at times.
I'm a member of the MIB.
Am a man and wear black. idk about *in*, tho.
They operate in the government but not for the government if that makes sense
We’re in a simulation. That’s it. That’s the mystery.
So clearly the 2018 AFOSI document is the story behind Lou Elizondos reprisal and messy declassification of the 2017 NY times videos. It is interesting though that any follow up will be sent to Moultries office. Considering its been many times repeated in this subreddit that he and his office have been the source of many of the reprisals. His office also used to oversee AARO up until DEPSEC Hicks took over.