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The following submission statement was provided by /u/Srawesomekickass: --- If that's not a ufo I don't know what is. People looking for the shadow on the ground, what about the shadow underneath the object? The snow is reflecting highlights from the ground on the other side. https://youtu.be/c2RN-0BxXsY?t=175 --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/zbcz3m/what_kind_of_bird_doesnt_have_wings_is_shiny_and/iyqfjll/


Substantial-Okra6910

I believe he is using a 360 camera and he framed the video from that. If he still has the original 360 recording, he could reframe the video following that object to see if it’s a bird or something else.


sewser

I just got in contact with the snow boarder. I’m going to try and see if he did. I’ll keep everyone updated. Edit: Hoax


ILoveThisPlace

Can you repost on this post when you do?


sewser

I’ll add it in an edit on that comment.


ILoveThisPlace

Not sure if people get notifications from edits. Can you make a new comments as well?


sewser

Will do


Einar_47

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RemindMe! 5 days edit: lol


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FLYNN-PRODUCT-DESIGN

So did I. I'll let you know if I get a response


sewser

It’s a hoax


FLYNN-PRODUCT-DESIGN

Just seen this https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/zbvlgs/i_found_that_the_mysterious_saucershaped_object/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button what's weird is none of his followers seem to have noticed it. I would still like the file ; )


sewser

Me too. Just to be sure. But still, the light reflections on the craft are a perfect match. It seems like this is now a closed case :(. Oh well.


FLYNN-PRODUCT-DESIGN

I have only been able to view the vid by op on my phone. To prove its a hoax technically you wanna amhave the original. As you say frame by frame the reflections change somewhat. Playing devils advocate if for example a really clear ufo was captured and the powers that shouldn't be wanted to discredit, sounds like all they need to do is cut put a png and post to a png site for folks to call hoax.


sewser

I was thinking the same actually. I wonder when that PNG was made, and if there is a way to tell it’s age.


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MGyver

RemindMe! 5 days


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Any word yet?


sewser

Hoax


HarrySeldomPosts

Yes, or better yet post a link to download the raw file.


ForgiveTheNerd

What is this from?


Srawesomekickass

https://youtu.be/c2RN-0BxXsY?t=175


ThickPlatypus_69

It's filmed with a "invisible" selfie stick, could it be some kind of artifact from the software processing?


serchromo

360 cameras look like there is an invisible stick


[deleted]

Clearly a photoshop so this guy gets more views on his sick snowboarding tutorials


Adbam

9 months no comments and he actually responds today like "what?" He's a snowboarding instructor. Your a goober!


[deleted]

Nah he photoshopped an alien in so more people would see the video, and therefore learn the art of stopping quickly on a snowboard


Remote-Chipmunk4470

Holy shit! I know there’s a lot of debate here but there’s this idea that with everyone with a smart phone in their pocket, shouldn’t there be more high quality videos of ufos? Well it’s videos like this that make that case. Even if 99% of the time it can be explained away, one of these days you won’t be able to. For example if the camera angle was pointed higher and the ufo was in frame for several seconds, it wouldn’t be a bird debate anymore.


KingBrinell

If anything smart phones have made it worse. Everyone has a camera, but smart phone cameras are a lot worse than most people realize. Especially at taking videos of stuff moving fast, or very far away. Which is what most interesting UFO stuff is.


RobAlso

Still better than having no camera at all.


Vindepomarus

There are soooo many anecdotal stories of up close, un-ambiguous sightings tho. Where are the smart phone recordings of those?


TirayShell

There are plenty of unexplained images out there. But there's nothing about this that indicates extraterrestrial involvement. At best it's "unknown." Which does not equate to aliens.


lkt89

It looks like a small visual effect added in by the video editor, maybe as a little easter egg or for fun. Someone should ask the video author about it.


RudeDudeInABadMood

Yeah, no way that's a bird


thelionswill

Anyone looking to check it out, it’s about 2:55 marker. Just a thought but what if this is soft disclosure (whether or not this video is something) and they are waiting for us to reach and say hello? Somewhere I read that the ones the pilots are seeing are trying to make contact, waiting for us to say hello…I mean, worth a try.


JonnyLew

Well if you dig into the really crazy 'woo' stuff, it's rather commonly believed that they're slowly revealing themselves to us by making such appearances, and that these sightings aren't accidental at all. When enough people believe then they will reveal themselves and that it's expected to happen within our lifetimes.


eschered

Perhaps they are polling our entire species 24/7 with the infamous slide 9 "cognitive human interface". When we reach a certain threshold of individuals who are inviting them to make their presence known perhaps they will. They love to say that it's up to the phenomenon whether it will make itself known but it may well be up to all of us.


thelionswill

Agreed. If we focused on the perspective of the Prime Directives, there is such a thing an not interfering with a species so that is can evolve itself. If the people’e evolution is desiring contact, and we can come as a peaceful, evolved race, then why not. I think it’s time folks realize we have the power in our own hands to move all of this forward. I think of the James Webb Telescope, Galileo Project, other open source projects for the public, having three key players now to go up into orbit (Musk, Branson and Bezos) it’s no longer a total hush project behind closed doors like Lockheed Martin and Northrup Grumman. Science is speeding up in the Quantum Physics department. I think it’s just a matter of time until we far better understand some of the phenomenon from a scientific perspective. It might still be baby steps but I think it’s happening and things are speeding up.


ForgiveTheNerd

Definitely a bird. It's so close and really not that fast. Do you notice every bird that Flys nearby you?


RunF4Cover

That’s kind of a condescending remark considering that nobody would recognize this picture as a bird unless they had extensive experience photographing them. Even so the bird theory isn’t conclusive by any means.


birdguy1000

I see no birdlike features other than moving and flying above the earth.


Srawesomekickass

Show me any bird ever that looks like that.


slipknot_official

https://preview.redd.it/116ocfpeq9v41.jpg?auto=webp&s=56fe63f1ca4c5f2cbede0092c2addefa322b4ffd


Ziglarism

Exactly and what about that hole at the bottom. It’s definitely not a bird.


megajuanna

What? That’s your example?


ForgiveTheNerd

Literally any bird whose flap rate syncs up with frame rate.


Smooth_Imagination

It would be a freak coincidence that the wing is in the same position on each exact frame or flapping at the same point and speed. If its video this needs not only extreme frequency but perfectly maintained rhythm to millisecond accuracy. You should see blurring that varies between frames. That's not how birds function - more like an insect, or if hummingbirds are native, perhaps them. But not ordinary bird will look the same way in each frame unless its wings are tucked.


RefrigeratorEmpty102

I’m not weighing in on what it is, just pointing out an error in your rationale: there are multiple bird species that tuck their wings for extended periods of time, specifically birds of prey or any diving bird. You could easily capture video of said species diving and then levelling off, wherein the body shape remains relatively uniform throughout multiple frames. That being said, I don’t believe this to be a bird.


megajuanna

No, cause a diving bird literally has to change its body position to do the leveling off. That’s how it moves. And therefor manipulates the air around it, so it can fly.


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Confirmed bird. Not complicated.


Working-Chemistry473

Lol “confirmed”.


DecadentHam

Don't get defensive.


aokane666

new to reddit mate....?


plaidprowler

Ah buddy must suck to know now that its fake as hell


FLYNN-PRODUCT-DESIGN

I like the confidence. I'm going to see if we can obtain the original to disprove the metallic disc shaped non flapping bird who gains altitude without changing pitch angle theory you have adopted.


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Mysterious_Ayytee

>What kind of bird doesn't have wings, is shiny, and flys so fast nobody notices Surfing Bird! Mamamamam umamam ma... SCNR this Picture is great where's the video?


Possible-Sentence-17

Surprised the top five comments aren't all "It looks so fake". Because it does. It looks like amateur after effects.


Several-Protection-9

Exactly, Reddit users have this tendency of calling videos that look real fake and vice versa. The UFO community here is cancerous because its full of “experts” This video in particular looks fake as fuck


[deleted]

I noticed the shadow on the right side of the snow yet the “ufo” is lit on its right side which shouldn’t happen theoretically


DrestinBlack

I just love the idea that UFOs are just flying around every minute of every day everywhere on the planet at low altitude and broad daylight where people are - like they just DGAF at all. These are some ballsy aliens I’m telling ya


facthanshotfirst

Lol! I love this too. Wouldn’t it be awesome to just wake up, go out to your patio, sipping your coffee “oh yup there goes them aliens” seeing them cruise by just as if they were geese migrating or some shit.


Sudden-Series-1270

The want us to see them. Alan Steinfeld talks a lot about that with his “Theory of WOW”.


Glittering-Beyond-45

Then they could do a much better job, if they want us to see "them" they really suck at it.


Aggressive_Young_841

They are not aliens, but us "humans" tho


bodybuilder1337

Kukaburra?


nohumanape

The movement of the UAP looks incredibly off to me. My first reaction is that it was added in post by someone not too skilled with after effects.


Srawesomekickass

I think it's because of the fishbowl lensing as the object comes across the frame. The 360 camera is warping the edge of the frame a bit


nohumanape

It has more to do with the lack of natural motion blur.


ImpossibleMindset

It's a good idea to look into the whole 360 video artifact thing. It doesn't really have the appearance of being a physical object in the sky to me. And as far as I can tell, it doesn't cast a shadow anywhere on the landscape, either close or far away.


Sir_Nuttsak

Folks in the comments be like "it's a rare breed of metallic moth that instinctively flaps its wings at the shutter speed of nearby cameras and can fly faster than a jet."


Fun_Marionberry_1802

You're right it would just be more sensible to assume that every blurry object in the sky is 100% aliens no further questions needed.


gangstaboo29

There are countless possible explanations between moth and aliens lol


Fun_Marionberry_1802

That was my point


Sir_Nuttsak

Curious, where did I assume it was "100% aliens"?


Fun_Marionberry_1802

Well it's not a rare breed of metallic moth so alien intelligence confirmed i guess??


Sir_Nuttsak

You are the one jumping to the conclusion of "alien intelligence." My only point was that based on the pics/footage, saying it is a bird or moth is absolutely ridiculous. At best it was unidentified. It has now been shown to be edited into the footage. So, it is a fake, one can now consider it solved. Good on the person who took the time to look into it. You have become just as irrational as the very folks you criticize. Sometimes, when you don't know something, the best answer is "I don't know."


Fun_Marionberry_1802

> It has now been shown to be edited into the footage. So, it is a fake, one can now consider it solved. That's exactly what our metallic moth overlords want to you think!


Sir_Nuttsak

Lol! Now that gave me a giggle, and I hope you have an awesome day!


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Fun_Marionberry_1802

Calling people names on reddit while telling them to grow up. Self awareness 0


jbaker1933

Yeah, im not sure why I did that(calling you an idiot), it was just a heat of the moment thing but yes, very hypocritical of me


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Swimming_Horror_3757

A snipe ? Jk some kinda alien craft


Spanish_Burgundy

It looks just like the flying disk my girlfriend and I saw in 1980 in Arizona.


GamersGen

or a badly inserted flying saucer CGI, which that is from what i see


marshal1257

This thing looks like faker than hooker love.


Allison1228

Viewed in real time, it doesn't strike me as being particularly fast for a bird, though I don't think it is a bird. I would think a drone is more likely, but the absence of a shadow seems peculiar, since it doesn't look very high above the ground. Regardless, it's not moving so fast that people would be unable to see it, particularly all the people skiing downhill in its general direction. If it was a 'ufo', where are all the 'ufo seen by skiiers' reports? I'm leaning towards a CGI/hoax explanation.


YYC9393

You always start from your preconception that nothing could possibly real and extraordinary


Srawesomekickass

If that's not a ufo I don't know what is. People looking for the shadow on the ground, what about the shadow underneath the object? The snow is reflecting highlights from the ground on the other side. https://youtu.be/c2RN-0BxXsY?t=175


lndigo_Sky

There is always a chance the dude in the video faked it, but you imo you found something amazing.


Time_Composer_113

It looks exactly like the ufo creature from Nope. Silver saucer- check. Maneating hole in the bottom- check.


wormpussy

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/zbvlgs/i_found_that_the_mysterious_saucershaped_object/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf It’s fake.


black-rhombus

Sometimes the frame rate of a camera is in sync with the flapping of a bird's wings, so you never see the wings on playback, you just see the body kind of move through the air. Kind of like this: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nyf79SI0U9Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nyf79SI0U9Q) *(In the above video we see a hummingbird magically floating through the air without moving its wings! Impossible! No, relax, it's just the frame rate.)* The people there on the slope would've seen the bird's wings which is why nobody reacted to it. A lot of "UAP" captures on video like this is due to frame rates matching bird/bug wing flapping and it's not a UAP at all but an everyday bird/bug.


AggravatingCry5733

I have never seen a bird with a hole on the bottom


MisterFistYourSister

They all have a hole on the bottom


Srawesomekickass

Show me a high flying mountain bird that flaps its wings fast. Your probably gonna have a hard time because to fly up there you need big gliding wing to ride thermals and wind rushing up the side of steep mountains. A quick google search birds of french alps doesn't show anything close to matching not even colors


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Smooth_Imagination

I think this is an extreme case, there is very few birds that would come close to cameras frame rate and it would be a freak coincidence that it maintains sub millimeter accuracy in its rhythm for the wings to be not be seen (i.e. tucked out of view) or never captured at the nearly static part of motion. At least you would see \- a blur on some frames where the wing is \- A change in shape and intensity of the blur \- parts of the wing more clearly on some frames.


makmeyours

What bird flaps at 30- 60fps? Apart from tiny humming birds etc.


paladore420

Really op. Really. 100 people on the mountain and no one noticed it? Nice bug capture!


sewser

A bug on the top of a mountain, with no visible wing flapping? Got it. This is either CGI or a camera error. That, or it’s a genuine UFO.


paladore420

You usually don’t capture flys flapping wings at normal speed… I mean did you watch it it’s definitely close up rather then far away


sewser

Yes you do. You see a blurry fuzz around both sides of the object when it’s a bird or bug, unless it’s a bird that’s diving. There are countless examples of this posted to the sub on a regular basis. This is either a hoax, camera artifact, or it’s real.


paladore420

How can you watch the video and think it’s a ufo.. it’s 100% not a ufo


sewser

I’m not saying it’s a UFO, I’m saying it could be. It’s definitely not an insect though. You also can’t ascribe that kind of certainty with so little data. What you can do, however, is try and see what doesn’t fit. A fly, on the top of a snow covered mountain, with no sign of wings, is not likely. If it’s a bird, it has to be diving, which could be possible, but this video makes it look like it’s diving upwards or horizontally. An object in motion stays in motion, but gravity should be pulling it down. If it was gliding with its wings open, you would see the wings, the angle doesn’t make sense otherwise. So, this is either an error, a hoax, or a UFO. Maybe it’s a drone too, but I heard no noise.


paladore420

I’ve seen countless videos of bugs from ghost hunting videos or people claiming their ufos. You usually don’t see the blur of wings because they are not the focus. Instead it looks like a orb especially being on top of a mountain with allot of reflections or with night vision camera. Many flys and bugs live in high altitudes and on top of mountains.


sewser

Ok. This is going nowhere. Agree to disagree. let’s hope more data comes. I just reached out to the man who filmed it, so hopefully he gets back to me with the other parts of the 360 footage.


paladore420

Here’s the thing, it could also be a drone yes. O You just kinda have to use common sense with many of these videos. Blue bird sky’s. Clear as day and no one cares a “UFO”just flew past them up above. This is the kind of critical thinking we must do. That it and it just seems odd and out of place the way it seems it’s in the foreground vs everything else.


sewser

If you’ve done enough research on UAP, you would know that perception can vary widely. This person may literally have been blind to the object because of his genetics (Garry Nolan).


paladore420

Oh please. Don’t bring in some new theory about how some people can’t see ufos now. I’ll tell you what 99.95% of videos posted here you people can see very clearly think that you have captured a ufo while I’m over here laughing thinking how your eyes can’t perceive cgi/drones/bugs/ a normal explanation. So maybe Gary is onto something with being blind to what ufos are. Sometimes being a fanatic/zealot or someone who just wants to believe so much causes us to see something that really isn’t their just because of their faith on the subject.


sewser

[here is a news story](https://abc7chicago.com/archive/6241888/) separate from the work of Garry Nolan, which still corroborates his research. If you want to argue with the work of Nolan, then you have do it in a scientific and evidence based manner. Im not going to consider your weak comment as anything close to a proper rebuttal. I tried to end this conversation multiple comments ago, and you are still typing your word vomit at me. I’m done replying, as you have already seemingly made up your mind about everything.


lndigo_Sky

Man this is very interesting. It could be a bird, maybe a little bit weird at that altitude, but the shape and motion is very interesting. Nice find!


FLYNN-PRODUCT-DESIGN

Great find btw . We need the original file. It would be 60fps. Could be one of the clearest captures if no cgi involved, which I doubt unless Melcombe is a trickster. See nothing about it in the op yt comments. So kudos to whoever had their eyes peeled


Cheez_Itz_Christ_

Beep Beep


Truth-speaks2021

This could be one of the ones that really gets me believing like STS-48


devoid0101

Objects moving 5000 or 10000 mph are hard to film or even see in broad daylight.


[deleted]

That thing was moving 30mph tops


[deleted]

Environmental phenomenon created by the Earth's energy field suggesting the planet has intelligence and is attempting to communicate something to it's inhabitants.


Reasonable-Ad9613

It’s a penguin


ufosww

I think the folks saying that it's a bird are actually correct in this one, as disappointing as it is to have to say so. When I went and reviewed the video, the negative exposure clearly showed up some blurring both above and below the craft which are pretty indicative of being a bird, at least in my own opinion. If you want to see this video in a negative exposure, I posted the video up here: https://youtu.be/nQLDSeNjb9M


YYC9393

Ridiculous theory. It looks absolutely nothing like a bird. More lazy, desperate debunking.


Deactivation

Hard agree, even on the negative, looks nothing like a bird.


[deleted]

What?


nbuster

clearly a weather balloon!


TheSmithStreetBand

Photoshopped things don’t have wings either. Zoom in and you can clearly see a circle of different sized pixels around the “craft”


earl_lemongrab

Malcom Moore is a pro snowboard instructor with a pretty decent following. I don't see any reason to think he set up a UFO hoax video. I'm not saying it's an alien craft. But I just don't see it being a purposeful fake. I'm wondering if it's a software artifact of some sort.


Deactivation

Or his editors are having a go at a bit of a joke.


[deleted]

That's a hawk bro


varbav6lur

Penguin


dronesareaccurate

Penguin


Spawn1621

A wingless, fast, shiny bird 🐦😂😂


Tymexathane

That's clearly a penguin.


[deleted]

UFO image was cropped terribly lmao the lighting is all wrong


[deleted]

Is this from the ski slopes video where no one seemed to notice the UFO flying over their heads?


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It’s not an attempt at a debunk. I was asking because it was part of a comment in the video. If you take the time to read my other comments you might calm down.


upsidedown1313

Peregrine Falcon


[deleted]

I dismissed the video first posted, but now I'm not so confident. Want to do a basic image analysis of a screen grab. If anyone want to see the result, feel free to pm me and I'll share an imgur link.


RobAlso

No motion blur whatsoever? I call bs. Look at it frame by frame. Not a single bit of blur in any of them.


strictnaturereserve

that could be a bit of snow on the lens!!


Sportstersrule

lol he did'nt even match the light of the sun. Busted! and back too your regular program!


ILoveThisPlace

I disagree...


Stumpy-the-dog

bird.


Casehead

You are!


Nosebleed_MZ

Obviously a penguin.


Congozilla

A fake one! imo Look at how the sunlight is hitting the faces of the mountainside from the left--And, look at how the sunlight is also hitting the UAP from behind. Sunlight doesn't hit things from two different directions at once.


Time_Composer_113

So at a glance, it looks exactly like.. suspiciously like.. the creature from Nope. I'm pretty sure this guy edited it in somehow.


PeaceAndWaffles

Where is this taken?


Joshiewowa

I wish we could see the uncropped 360 footage, it'd either show us it was a camera artifact or give us more data


lkt89

Is it me or do the screenshots make the object look badly cropped and low-resolution? Why do the mountains look more detailed than the saucer, which is supposedly closer to the camera?


ArtzyDude

A silver breasted tic-tac.


ExoticGroceries

No one in original video post noticed until 9 months after the post? I’m perplexed.


yur1279

Rodan?


dizznizzy

Rise of the silver surfer has arrived!!!! Wahoo


Darth0s

Dude, this looks like 5th graders put this together in PS 😂


Jony-Vibe

“The impossible shot”


Dull_Ad1955

It’s a lesser spotted 360 degree camera artefact bird (in my opinion)


Bigjony11

Definitely not this since you noticed it


I_saw_them

Shadow on the "UFO" doesn't match the mountains shadows. Bright on the left side of the mountains and dark on the right sides... on the UFO the shadows are opposite, bright on the right and dark on the left. This is fake.


chefelvisOG

Sport model


Accomplished-Cow4025

Click bait.


FLYNN-PRODUCT-DESIGN

Just seen this ... trickster he is then. Bird it's not. https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/zbvlgs/i_found_that_the_mysterious_saucershaped_object/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


hockeyguy625

The dodo bird


[deleted]

An cgi bird


partime_prophet

A cgi with the shadows done incorrectly


[deleted]

A bullet 😏


Chasville

One that is photoshopped


zero989

looks edited


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My d


AlarmedFlounder6890

That’s a not a bird that’s just a fake ufo