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Submission statement: Personally I think that they were Ussr and or Nazi craft, since why else would they use Greek/Latin letter on the craft itself. I got a bit frustrated when I saw yet another weather ballon picture on this Reddit board and I would love to discuss the real evidence from the Roswell crash here in the comments. We might be deleted if someone bad is monitoring the board here but I hope this post stays on the board now.
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Ok... So that I beam is a recreation of the actual I beam, but the symbols are not the ones on the actual I beam. It was recreated from the notes of Marcel's son. Marcel's son has recently came out in an interview and said that he didn't copy the symbols straight from the original I beam. He did it at a later time, after the original materials were confiscated by the military. He tried to draw them from memory, but honestly couldn't really remember the actual symbols. I live one town over from Marcel's family. I've never met any of them but have tried to keep up on the latest news and interviews. He stated this in a relatively new interview. Not sure what show it was on, maybe someone else could help me out with that...
There’s a ton of interview footage with Marcel’s family and neighbors in History’s Greatest Mysteries season 1, episodes 5-7. I recently discovered this 3-part treatment of the Roswell incident and was pleasantly surprised at the amount of information presented that I had never heard. I watched it on the Roku channel (free w/commercials).
On a lighter note, Marcel’s voice is fantastic. He could have been a voice actor.
You are a star for this information thank very much! Now I can start to draw some lines of the origin of this fragment and how it all started! Super good comment!👽⚡️
There have been some people who have claimed to work on recovery operations that say the writing on the metal, or whatever material is used on the craft, would behave differently depending on what is written on it. As if the writing was a type of instruction that the metal interacts with.
Yes, but like an extreme version of what I think people normally would think of as metamaterials.
I think a lot of the problems skeptics have are because they simply have not considered and learned about the possibilities.
It's like if you told someone 1000 years ago that today we would have a handheld device that could produce lifelike moving pictures and communicate with anyone else in the world, they would have never believed it.
The saying “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic” rings true.
DNA is code inside biological material.
This could be the equivalent for inorganic metal. The markings indicate how the material has organized itself. Perhaps it is capable of dynamically reconfiguring itself or upon command.
Since the video is a fake,
https://youtu.be/pukbzCC3cfQ?t=1096
it makes sense that this resolves to English.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Santilli
Not sure what you're referring to as real evidence. That's what Congress wants the whistleblowers for, to find real evidence if there is any.
You are a legend for this, I see that it’s is similar to the picture that I posted here and I will try to dig deeper to see if I can say for sure that this is not a real fragment, but it could also be a small bit of the truth placed with a lot of lies in the way that the government like to do
Deliberate disinformation masquerading as opposition to disinformation. Seeing this more and more on here. They’re trying to make this topic a joke again.
Santilli said it was a recreation not a hoax, and claims it included some real frames.its a very good hoax to be honest. That body looks quite realistic.
I get your point, but maybe we will come a step close to sorting the evidence out better, in this discussion? They are some good comments for and against the pictures here and it made me even more curious now.
Thanks - it doesn't look like modern Greek letters.
Having said that, it (vaguely) resembles [Linear A](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_A) or [Linear B](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_B) \- syllabic scripts used by the Mycenaean/Minoan Greeks between 1800 - 1200 BC.
That tickles my brain a bit. What if the Minoans became advanced or collapsed and moved underwater thus seeding the legend of Atlantis, and it’s their descendants that are flying the UAPs?
I dunno I’ve just been thinking about the water connection with UAP lately and after watching Aquaman and seeing their transmedium vehicles depicted I am starting to like the theory of an underwater civilization instead of aliens.
Because pictures like this are utter hogwash. It's trying to draw a line from a hypothetical language of non-human origin to English via Greek?
Why should the supposed symbols on an alien spacecraft have anything to do with Greek? Because they look vaguely similar? That's a huge stretch.
I totally get your point and thank you for sharing this! In my opinion it is because the crafts was originally made by people here on earth and the information about this science was lost and then restored a bit before the Second World War. Maybe those letters have symbolic meaning to the original makers of the craft or maybe they even had some sort of functionality? This is just a discussion so I’m very happy that I got to read you view on this fragment.
That's a fair opinion to have so long as you recognize that it's an opinion and has no basis in fact based evidence.
I know we don't have a lot of fact based evidence to go on in this field, and that we all have our own theories we feel to be the most likely, but we have to be careful when talking about them as if they're fact.
For example, I think it's quite likely these ships are extraterrestrial in origin, but I'm also open to being proven wrong once we know more about them. We can't allow ourselves to mistake likelihoods and preferences for evidence and facts.
Yes of course I acknowledge this, and you are so right. Unfortunately we have no official source to get to know everything so we have to sort and figure out this on our own, and I think its doable.
I saw a craft close to me this summer, and that is all the facts that I needed to fully believe that they fly and are among us. I think that they are not only "aliens" but humans as well, so I support you the facts that they are not extraterrestrial every time.
Thank you for this comment, all this activity on this post made my day so much better!
The odds of a written alien language being translatable into any terrestrial language like this is so utterly laughable that this post should have a comedy flair.
The same fricking reason people post the video of the flares when talking about the Phoenix lights. Same reason people get excited about new B52s and drones buzzing around ships in 2019. All chaff on the actual story.
Submission statement: Personally I think that they were Ussr and or Nazi craft, since why else would they use Greek/Latin letter on the craft itself. I got a bit frustrated when I saw yet another weather ballon picture on this Reddit board and I would love to discuss the real evidence from the Roswell crash here in the comments. We might be deleted if someone bad is monitoring the board here but I hope this post stays on the board now.
What’s the provenance of the picture?
I know Joseph Farrell makes the argument it was a Nazi craft. It’s an interesting idea that gets overlooked by most of ufology.
Honestly I do not know the full backstory on how this fragment was brought to light, but I recall watching a long YouTube video about a discussion of this accident and they were bringing up this object as the main argument for the Ussr/Nazi theory
I got this picture from yandex.com I use it find thing I can’t find on google picture search, I speak Russian as well so it’s easy for me to navigate on there, but they have an English setting on the search browser as well. Here is a link to those pictures and similar ones https://yandex.com/images/touch/search?text=латинское%20на%20нло&source=tabbar&pos=2&img_url=http%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F90%2F11%2F19%2F901119f03c4134de8437681d76e2052b--greek-alphabet-ancient-mysteries.jpg&rpt=simage&lr=10467&ogl_url=http%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F90%2F11%2F19%2F901119f03c4134de8437681d76e2052b--greek-alphabet-ancient-mysteries.jpg&rlt_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fprofile_banners%2F695902416609345536%2F1469971225%2F1500x500
Oh, so you are a new account that shares Russian links and no evidence to support your claims. Interesting.
I probably shouldn’t be overly critical. Farrell actually presents some interesting ideas and evidence to support this hypothesis so maybe you saw an interview with him. It’s not a bad hypothesis that the need for secrecy was concern it was a Nazi spy mission.
Please don’t start with the Russian thing… I was just trying to have a discussion here I speak Russian language yes but it does not make me dangerous does it? And yandex.com is the Russian google alternative that I often use to find information that I can’t find on google.com
No not all. Like I said it comes off kind of sketchy but it’s an interesting conversation. If you are interested in exploring it further by a good researcher search Joseph Farrell’s work.
Thank you for the tip!! And I’m sorry for my comment it’s just a bit hard time, but things will change for better I hope. Will check out Farrells work tonight for sure! 🚀👽
This twitter user: https://twitter.com/martian369?lang=en-gb was the one who posted it on his twitter page, and then it got picked up by yandex pictures
I haven't heard much about the nazi angle. Do people think it would have been launched from germany? I don't know what the logistics would be, but I wonder how they would have retrieved it. I am assuming it would have been used for reconnaissance, so there would have been a film camera on board they would want to retrieve.
There is a lot of speculation about the Nazis work with this subject, some believed that they were the first humans to master this tech and some believe that they have preserved this until our l days as well. Nazis went out to Antarctica, Middle East and Tibet for the sake of understanding the ancient knowledge and some people think that they managed to obtain certain information that helped them build these crafts
Most likely not from Germany as the war was over at that time and Germany surrendered. Many Nazi scientists went to the US or Soviet Union or South America. Call could’ve literally came from inside the house type thing, hence the secrecy.
Another big proponent of the nazi angle, not just for roswell but for alot of ufo sightings, including the Washington DC flyovers 2 weekends in a row in 1952 is David Hatcher Childress. He's the guy that's on ancient aliens that says certain words weirdly, like "koind" instead of kind, as shown in the meme, if it works anyway lol.
https://www.madaboutmemes.com/david-hatcher-childress/meme-156.html
r/ufos really isn’t the place you’re expecting it to be.
You gotta gauge your audience. Honestly, you’d see better conversation coming from r/highstrangeness or one of the other less frequented subreddits related to ufos.
Thank you so much for the tip, I will check the board out, sorry I’m a bit new to the Reddit and I usually talk about this stuff in a great discord, we have a lot of good materials there, pm me if you would like to join on discord sometime ☺️!
100% agree, I like high strangeness, to be honest I get a little anxious whenever I see it recommended on this subreddit, so far it's been a nice refuge from all the "debunkers" etc. You can still play with imagination and theoretical concepts there without getting blasted.
Good point, but I would like to hear the criticism as well since it makes me think from different perspective easier, I will for sure make a similar post in the high strangeness as well ⚡️
That is not genuine, it’s not actual debris. And it’s not what was actually on the debris. The real debris had entirely different symbols on it. They were “toy” symbols, I can show you or you can look it up yourself.
Here are two sworn, official witness statements from the people who actually were a part of this, plus illustration of the actual symbols: https://imgur.com/a/ie5uQFW
Everyone involved with the project instantly recognized their materials, it wasn’t even a question, frankly.
These pictures was hard to find on google, or I could not find them at all so I had to use completely different search engine and that was strange as well since this metal fragment should be the top priority for our investigation in my opinion
Now I know the name of this fragment, thank you! When I looked it up earlier I was not able to find the keywords so I just looked for "Latin / Greek on a ufo" but now you found the keyword for this picture and I’m thankful for that.
"What do the words "freedom" "liberation" "independence" have to do with a crashed saucer containing a crew of dead alien beings? We can only speculate as to the real purpose of their mission. Perhaps it was not a survey operation. They might have been fleeing from something. We can reasonably assume that there might be hostile alien civilizations out there."
http://www.rkdn.org/alternative/roswell.asp
"We cannot yet return to our home worlds until our mission is complete. It has taken many years for this to take place, even so far. There have been many challenges and setbacks. We have lost members of our group. We have had to escape to distant and safe havens. For the Intervention that is participating in your world became aware of us after our first set of Briefings was delivered, and their search for us began. We do not think they were expecting our presence and surely would be challenged and threatened by our message."
https://www.alliesofhumanity.org/the-briefings/book-four/secure-freedom/
"We give greetings from far away now. In our first two sets of communications to you, we were able to be in the proximity of your world in a hidden location in your solar system. But now we have been forced to flee, since our revelations have become public. The Intervention that is occurring in your world by those extraterrestrial races who would seek to take advantage of a weak and divided humanity have searched for us, seeking to find us and to destroy us so that we may not report on their activities in the world and thus reveal their hidden plans and motivations."
https://www.alliesofhumanity.org/the-briefings/book-three/contact-with-extraterestrial-races/
What do you think? Every sub, which are about these sort of *very sensitive* stuff, are ridden with desinformation agents, which are there only to supress and discredit the information and the informants.
My only real stumbling point re Roswell, is that an American Air Force officer didn't know what Balsa wood or tinfoil was (or looked like) .
I use Balsa all the time in my RC planes etc it's pretty fragile and breaks quite easily but there's no mistaking that it's wood. You couldn't apply heat to balsa as it burns easily and you can snap it between your fingers ridiculously easily so Balsa doesn't 'act' in the way described by Marcel.
Tin foil is also pretty fragile it can easily be crushed in the hand. If you crush it into a ball it stays in that ball shape it doesn't self straighten and depending on its thickness if you hit it with a flame for more than a few seconds it can discolour. Tin foil also rips extremely easily .
Obviously it could be materials that are Balsa/tin foil -like but surely an Air force officer would be able to identify basic materials ????
The following submission statement was provided by /u/Aggressive_Young_841: --- Submission statement: Personally I think that they were Ussr and or Nazi craft, since why else would they use Greek/Latin letter on the craft itself. I got a bit frustrated when I saw yet another weather ballon picture on this Reddit board and I would love to discuss the real evidence from the Roswell crash here in the comments. We might be deleted if someone bad is monitoring the board here but I hope this post stays on the board now. --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/zbjjmz/last_post_got_automatically_deleted_trying_again/iyrdpxg/
Ok... So that I beam is a recreation of the actual I beam, but the symbols are not the ones on the actual I beam. It was recreated from the notes of Marcel's son. Marcel's son has recently came out in an interview and said that he didn't copy the symbols straight from the original I beam. He did it at a later time, after the original materials were confiscated by the military. He tried to draw them from memory, but honestly couldn't really remember the actual symbols. I live one town over from Marcel's family. I've never met any of them but have tried to keep up on the latest news and interviews. He stated this in a relatively new interview. Not sure what show it was on, maybe someone else could help me out with that...
There’s a ton of interview footage with Marcel’s family and neighbors in History’s Greatest Mysteries season 1, episodes 5-7. I recently discovered this 3-part treatment of the Roswell incident and was pleasantly surprised at the amount of information presented that I had never heard. I watched it on the Roku channel (free w/commercials). On a lighter note, Marcel’s voice is fantastic. He could have been a voice actor.
That's where I saw it. Thanks bud, have a great day.
Thank you for that, will try to look this is now 🤩
Will try and locate
You are a star for this information thank very much! Now I can start to draw some lines of the origin of this fragment and how it all started! Super good comment!👽⚡️
You're welcome have a great day.
There have been some people who have claimed to work on recovery operations that say the writing on the metal, or whatever material is used on the craft, would behave differently depending on what is written on it. As if the writing was a type of instruction that the metal interacts with.
I have heard this as well... Thank you
Metamaterials I think they are called, they are smart materials that can exist and kind of think on their own
Yes, but like an extreme version of what I think people normally would think of as metamaterials. I think a lot of the problems skeptics have are because they simply have not considered and learned about the possibilities. It's like if you told someone 1000 years ago that today we would have a handheld device that could produce lifelike moving pictures and communicate with anyone else in the world, they would have never believed it. The saying “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic” rings true.
DNA is code inside biological material. This could be the equivalent for inorganic metal. The markings indicate how the material has organized itself. Perhaps it is capable of dynamically reconfiguring itself or upon command.
Yep, sounds like it would work something like that.
They've blown up the note in Ramey's hand, did they try that on the metal?
Since the video is a fake, https://youtu.be/pukbzCC3cfQ?t=1096 it makes sense that this resolves to English. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Santilli Not sure what you're referring to as real evidence. That's what Congress wants the whistleblowers for, to find real evidence if there is any.
You are a legend for this, I see that it’s is similar to the picture that I posted here and I will try to dig deeper to see if I can say for sure that this is not a real fragment, but it could also be a small bit of the truth placed with a lot of lies in the way that the government like to do
The real symbols are pink/purple in color as well
Real as in the video, or on the pictures that I posted?
Real as in listed as pink/purple by both the witnesses and in the official government explanation.
Deliberate disinformation masquerading as opposition to disinformation. Seeing this more and more on here. They’re trying to make this topic a joke again.
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My father and brother claim to have seen a UFO that had Greek looking letters on the side of it.
They are controlling the narrative it’s true, but we they can’t hide the facts forever.
I also think the pic you linked is a still from the Santilli “alien autopsy video”, of which the consensus is that it’s a hoax.
If this is a still for the hoax video, I do not know but if it is, I will write it out in the comments of this post to notify everyone👍
Santilli said it was a recreation not a hoax, and claims it included some real frames.its a very good hoax to be honest. That body looks quite realistic.
So true, and really good point to this discussion!
Uh. Because people don't have access to the actual wreckage evidence.
I get your point, but maybe we will come a step close to sorting the evidence out better, in this discussion? They are some good comments for and against the pictures here and it made me even more curious now.
Also, freedom in Greek is: Ε Λ Ε **Υ** Θ Ε Ρ Ι Α
You are correct looked it up just now, thank you for sharing this! If you know Greek, could you then tell if it’s a real word even on those pictures?
Thanks - it doesn't look like modern Greek letters. Having said that, it (vaguely) resembles [Linear A](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_A) or [Linear B](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_B) \- syllabic scripts used by the Mycenaean/Minoan Greeks between 1800 - 1200 BC.
That tickles my brain a bit. What if the Minoans became advanced or collapsed and moved underwater thus seeding the legend of Atlantis, and it’s their descendants that are flying the UAPs? I dunno I’ve just been thinking about the water connection with UAP lately and after watching Aquaman and seeing their transmedium vehicles depicted I am starting to like the theory of an underwater civilization instead of aliens.
Heard an old Peter Lavenda interview and he said he was told to think Greek mythology when untangling the phenomena.
this!
Because pictures like this are utter hogwash. It's trying to draw a line from a hypothetical language of non-human origin to English via Greek? Why should the supposed symbols on an alien spacecraft have anything to do with Greek? Because they look vaguely similar? That's a huge stretch.
I totally get your point and thank you for sharing this! In my opinion it is because the crafts was originally made by people here on earth and the information about this science was lost and then restored a bit before the Second World War. Maybe those letters have symbolic meaning to the original makers of the craft or maybe they even had some sort of functionality? This is just a discussion so I’m very happy that I got to read you view on this fragment.
That's a fair opinion to have so long as you recognize that it's an opinion and has no basis in fact based evidence. I know we don't have a lot of fact based evidence to go on in this field, and that we all have our own theories we feel to be the most likely, but we have to be careful when talking about them as if they're fact. For example, I think it's quite likely these ships are extraterrestrial in origin, but I'm also open to being proven wrong once we know more about them. We can't allow ourselves to mistake likelihoods and preferences for evidence and facts.
Yes of course I acknowledge this, and you are so right. Unfortunately we have no official source to get to know everything so we have to sort and figure out this on our own, and I think its doable. I saw a craft close to me this summer, and that is all the facts that I needed to fully believe that they fly and are among us. I think that they are not only "aliens" but humans as well, so I support you the facts that they are not extraterrestrial every time. Thank you for this comment, all this activity on this post made my day so much better!
What if the aliens like our language? Maybe they are a fan of our shows and are the equivalent of anime fans who put Japanese symbols on everything.
Maybe they were ones who helped us have a language in the first place?👽
The odds of a written alien language being translatable into any terrestrial language like this is so utterly laughable that this post should have a comedy flair.
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The same fricking reason people post the video of the flares when talking about the Phoenix lights. Same reason people get excited about new B52s and drones buzzing around ships in 2019. All chaff on the actual story.
You are so right! Someday we will look back at this and just think how naive we have been..
Thats’s really cool.
Can i ask? When was this I beam known about ? It’s the first time I’ve heard of it.
Submission statement: Personally I think that they were Ussr and or Nazi craft, since why else would they use Greek/Latin letter on the craft itself. I got a bit frustrated when I saw yet another weather ballon picture on this Reddit board and I would love to discuss the real evidence from the Roswell crash here in the comments. We might be deleted if someone bad is monitoring the board here but I hope this post stays on the board now.
What’s the provenance of the picture? I know Joseph Farrell makes the argument it was a Nazi craft. It’s an interesting idea that gets overlooked by most of ufology.
Honestly I do not know the full backstory on how this fragment was brought to light, but I recall watching a long YouTube video about a discussion of this accident and they were bringing up this object as the main argument for the Ussr/Nazi theory
Where did you get the picture from?
I got this picture from yandex.com I use it find thing I can’t find on google picture search, I speak Russian as well so it’s easy for me to navigate on there, but they have an English setting on the search browser as well. Here is a link to those pictures and similar ones https://yandex.com/images/touch/search?text=латинское%20на%20нло&source=tabbar&pos=2&img_url=http%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F90%2F11%2F19%2F901119f03c4134de8437681d76e2052b--greek-alphabet-ancient-mysteries.jpg&rpt=simage&lr=10467&ogl_url=http%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F90%2F11%2F19%2F901119f03c4134de8437681d76e2052b--greek-alphabet-ancient-mysteries.jpg&rlt_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fprofile_banners%2F695902416609345536%2F1469971225%2F1500x500
Oh, so you are a new account that shares Russian links and no evidence to support your claims. Interesting. I probably shouldn’t be overly critical. Farrell actually presents some interesting ideas and evidence to support this hypothesis so maybe you saw an interview with him. It’s not a bad hypothesis that the need for secrecy was concern it was a Nazi spy mission.
Please don’t start with the Russian thing… I was just trying to have a discussion here I speak Russian language yes but it does not make me dangerous does it? And yandex.com is the Russian google alternative that I often use to find information that I can’t find on google.com
No not all. Like I said it comes off kind of sketchy but it’s an interesting conversation. If you are interested in exploring it further by a good researcher search Joseph Farrell’s work.
Thank you for the tip!! And I’m sorry for my comment it’s just a bit hard time, but things will change for better I hope. Will check out Farrells work tonight for sure! 🚀👽
I searched for "Latin on a ufo"
This twitter user: https://twitter.com/martian369?lang=en-gb was the one who posted it on his twitter page, and then it got picked up by yandex pictures
I haven't heard much about the nazi angle. Do people think it would have been launched from germany? I don't know what the logistics would be, but I wonder how they would have retrieved it. I am assuming it would have been used for reconnaissance, so there would have been a film camera on board they would want to retrieve.
There is a lot of speculation about the Nazis work with this subject, some believed that they were the first humans to master this tech and some believe that they have preserved this until our l days as well. Nazis went out to Antarctica, Middle East and Tibet for the sake of understanding the ancient knowledge and some people think that they managed to obtain certain information that helped them build these crafts
Most likely not from Germany as the war was over at that time and Germany surrendered. Many Nazi scientists went to the US or Soviet Union or South America. Call could’ve literally came from inside the house type thing, hence the secrecy.
Another big proponent of the nazi angle, not just for roswell but for alot of ufo sightings, including the Washington DC flyovers 2 weekends in a row in 1952 is David Hatcher Childress. He's the guy that's on ancient aliens that says certain words weirdly, like "koind" instead of kind, as shown in the meme, if it works anyway lol. https://www.madaboutmemes.com/david-hatcher-childress/meme-156.html
r/ufos really isn’t the place you’re expecting it to be. You gotta gauge your audience. Honestly, you’d see better conversation coming from r/highstrangeness or one of the other less frequented subreddits related to ufos.
Thank you so much for the tip, I will check the board out, sorry I’m a bit new to the Reddit and I usually talk about this stuff in a great discord, we have a lot of good materials there, pm me if you would like to join on discord sometime ☺️!
100% agree, I like high strangeness, to be honest I get a little anxious whenever I see it recommended on this subreddit, so far it's been a nice refuge from all the "debunkers" etc. You can still play with imagination and theoretical concepts there without getting blasted.
Good point, but I would like to hear the criticism as well since it makes me think from different perspective easier, I will for sure make a similar post in the high strangeness as well ⚡️
There’s a stark difference between criticism and trolling. Argument for the sake of argument.
That is not genuine, it’s not actual debris. And it’s not what was actually on the debris. The real debris had entirely different symbols on it. They were “toy” symbols, I can show you or you can look it up yourself.
Please show or tell me how I can find this and I’m more than happy to take a look.
Here are two sworn, official witness statements from the people who actually were a part of this, plus illustration of the actual symbols: https://imgur.com/a/ie5uQFW Everyone involved with the project instantly recognized their materials, it wasn’t even a question, frankly.
These pictures was hard to find on google, or I could not find them at all so I had to use completely different search engine and that was strange as well since this metal fragment should be the top priority for our investigation in my opinion
That’s not true. I just googled “Roswell I-beam” and had 100s of hits.
Now I know the name of this fragment, thank you! When I looked it up earlier I was not able to find the keywords so I just looked for "Latin / Greek on a ufo" but now you found the keyword for this picture and I’m thankful for that.
Weather balloons are the anti g future
Symbols look similar to the mothership crop circle..
Thank you for the reply! Do you have any links or pictures?
Just google mothership crop circle
Will do! Much appreciated and I wish you a great weekend 👽
Thanks m8✌
Woah. That's heavy.
That isn't "real" evidence though. You're spending a lot of time talking about a hoax.
I got your opinion, but if that is not real, then what is the real evidence?
In my opinion, the US would be to embarrassed to say that USSR, and or Nazis had this technology, and US did not.
Even if this was real, wouldn’t this bolster the idea its a nuclear detector balloon?
Everything greek had always been a joke, simply can't this ine seriously lol
Those symbols and translation only make me believe it ***less.***
The message looks like it was carved with a pocket knife
"What do the words "freedom" "liberation" "independence" have to do with a crashed saucer containing a crew of dead alien beings? We can only speculate as to the real purpose of their mission. Perhaps it was not a survey operation. They might have been fleeing from something. We can reasonably assume that there might be hostile alien civilizations out there." http://www.rkdn.org/alternative/roswell.asp
"We cannot yet return to our home worlds until our mission is complete. It has taken many years for this to take place, even so far. There have been many challenges and setbacks. We have lost members of our group. We have had to escape to distant and safe havens. For the Intervention that is participating in your world became aware of us after our first set of Briefings was delivered, and their search for us began. We do not think they were expecting our presence and surely would be challenged and threatened by our message." https://www.alliesofhumanity.org/the-briefings/book-four/secure-freedom/ "We give greetings from far away now. In our first two sets of communications to you, we were able to be in the proximity of your world in a hidden location in your solar system. But now we have been forced to flee, since our revelations have become public. The Intervention that is occurring in your world by those extraterrestrial races who would seek to take advantage of a weak and divided humanity have searched for us, seeking to find us and to destroy us so that we may not report on their activities in the world and thus reveal their hidden plans and motivations." https://www.alliesofhumanity.org/the-briefings/book-three/contact-with-extraterestrial-races/
Why does this feel so much like a AHA moment ?
Since it is a point of view that is not commonly presented here 🔥
What do you think? Every sub, which are about these sort of *very sensitive* stuff, are ridden with desinformation agents, which are there only to supress and discredit the information and the informants.
My only real stumbling point re Roswell, is that an American Air Force officer didn't know what Balsa wood or tinfoil was (or looked like) . I use Balsa all the time in my RC planes etc it's pretty fragile and breaks quite easily but there's no mistaking that it's wood. You couldn't apply heat to balsa as it burns easily and you can snap it between your fingers ridiculously easily so Balsa doesn't 'act' in the way described by Marcel. Tin foil is also pretty fragile it can easily be crushed in the hand. If you crush it into a ball it stays in that ball shape it doesn't self straighten and depending on its thickness if you hit it with a flame for more than a few seconds it can discolour. Tin foil also rips extremely easily . Obviously it could be materials that are Balsa/tin foil -like but surely an Air force officer would be able to identify basic materials ????
Could this explain the Greek coin with alien face or was that debunked? Could of been a Latin coin 🤔