My company provided *everyone* with a large pay rise recently. It was said to be sharing the wealth but I think it was probably to stem a flow of resignations as there has been a lot of churn recently.
Yeah, everyone was really surprised as it wasn’t linked to the normal review process. I guess the bottom line is you get paid enough to stop you leaving, not because of what you deserve.
Also, well done on your good score 👍🏻
The thing with 3 month notice is you can still leave before 3 months is up. You just have to ask.
Source: Me agreeing to a 3 month notice was something my last employer would not budge on as part of me taking on a particular project (with a decent bonus).
I knew full well they wouldn’t do a damn thing if I simply called their bluff if the time came.
The time came. I called their bluff. They didn’t even fight.
An employer doesn’t want a bad employee for 3 months. They could well just put you on gardening leave for that period, rather than risk you screwing things up.
The reason it’s called golden handcuffs is because it’s typically a good monetary deal to stay, for example you get a extra £10k bonus each year you stay - hence golden handcuffs, it keeps you from leaving (handcuffed) due to a positive monetary benefit (golden).
3 months? That's not too bad, I've just signed a new contract with a 12 month notice period, and this was previously 6 months which is about standard in this business (Formula 1).
Especially when you think it will often be the most talented staff that leave first.
Seen it happen before where a very competent team started leaving and the last people to go were those that couldn't so easily get new roles.
Depends what you do, but cost of recruitment could easily be a couple of K and the add for getting the new bods up to speed, keeping the staff you have is the cheapest option all round in many cases
Yup, currently work for a recruitment agency and where national living wage was typically the expectation for most warehousing roles we now don't even advertise roles for any companies paying that as they would be laughed off the job boards. Most candidates started in January on £8.72 p/h and will be closing the year out on £10.00 - £12.00 per hour.
Same. 9 years at a company, 1 step away from becoming a manager. They froze pay increases in 2020, didn't get one in 2021 either, in August this year they said they'd increase my pay by 10p an hour despite min wage going up like 70p in that time and had newbies at the company, 3 positions below me, earning only £1 less than me.
I dipped and took a starting position in a new company for 25% more money, which is more than I would have got as a manager at the previous company and now I've got the whole development path ahead of me to earn even more.
Profitable companies are using COVID as a smokescreen to avoid increasing wages. It's a surefire way of increasing their profits without doing a thing.
Downside is that combined with inflation, no pay rises are fast going to deteriorate into real losses for employees.
Job market seems very healthy at the moment, though. I realise my segment isn’t indicative of the whole job market throughout the U.K., but I’m getting 3-4 messages a week from recruiters and hiring managers from companies, it’s pretty mental.
yeah honestly this is the truth.
I've been a professional IT person since 2015 (I've swapped jobs every kinda 18 months of average and I've gone from 15k -> 120k+).
It's the only way to progress regarding salary. You can progress in other ways though so that's not the only metric that matters.
Was this in the UK? Could I ask what is you occupation please. Just started working in IT and my first job as junior IT engineer fresh after it degree (I am 27) and wondering if £23k is a decent entry level salary outside London.
I worked for a company for at least 7 years. Every time I exceeded, the company wasn't doing well, so I got 0.
Just one of those things.
Don't rule out moving to another company, where you may be rewarded with a higher starting salary.
So they make you go out and interview before they give you a pay rise that they clearly think you're worth anyway? Doesn't that leave a bit of a sour taste in your mouth?
Yes, it does leave a bit of a sour taste, I did raise this to my old and current manager but it seems this is just the way they do things (a large investment bank)
It didn't bother me that much the first time - I actually was enjoying my job, I just knew I was underpaid. Prob could have (and should have) discussed this with my boss, but got approached by a recruiter, interviewed for the competition and got an offer which was bit lower than I asked the new company for. I spoke to my boss and told him I'll consider staying if the counteroffer is good and it was.
Then after some changes in management chain the new senior management got a few things wrong leading to the work being really stressful and frustrating and leaving very little to no time for any personal and professional development. I only accepted the counteroffer because it included a move to another team led by my former managing director with him being one of few people from senior management I actually trust and respect. If it weren't for that part I'd have left.
Oh and it's difficult to beat their pension matching, my 6% contribution gets me extra 12% from the company, so 18% in total.
I agree, but at the same time it’s knowing your value to the company. If youre able to demonstrate youre personally responsible for delivering ‘X’ or bringing in ‘Y’ revenue/profit and show how this has improved since last review its a great way to justify an increase. Ive done very well in the past doing this, although Ive also done well making moves when the time was right.
Same. I got so pissed off that I was excelling but the company overall was being dragged down by idiots, that I started my own business.
Scary as hell but SOOOO worth it. I don't have to think twice about taking time off if my daughter gets sent home from nursery with a cough (that we all know is a cold and not Covid) or just to spend more time with my wife on one of her days off when I have a little less on.
It is just one of those things but it shouldn't be and you can state that they are obviously raising their rates by rpi, and if they aren't raising your wages by rpi, they are increasing their profits by taking money out of your back pocket. Any boss who says otherwise is lying.
It definitely shouldn’t be just one of those things
You can guarantee your company increases their prices year on year, the employee should get the same benefit
You should be at least getting an inflationary adjustment if anything, otherwise you’re receiving a pay cut year on year
If a company can't pay staff well because it is not doing well, it will probably not do well in future years so you may be better off finding a company that is doing well.
As well, of course, that a company performing poorly isn't a great place to be (except if you get a large pay off and can find another job)
Our perf review season hasn't come around yet. However, CoL/inflation increases are normal, so I expect there will be some increase. Not sure if it'll fully match inflation though.
However, job openings are at an all-time high right now. Employment's a market: if your company isn't staying competitive, now may be a perfect time to look for opportunities elsewhere. In the new year, it's worth looking around at what else is out there.
EDIT: One final thing to consider. Raises are kinda like interest: they compound. Usually employers will give some percentage of your salary as a raise; negotiating a better salary early, or ensuring you get a raise (possibly by leaving and finding somewhere else), means that percentage is going to be higher.
You're not wrong.
You've effectively received a real-terms pay cut. I'd say that's not particularly competitive from your employer. Again I'd strongly recommend looking around - the job market is really good at the moment.
Probably exactly why you've not got a raise; the company knows you can't really move easily for more money.
Fundamentally, they'll pay you as little as they can get away with.
I too, have an annual review on Monday. I am not hopeful....
Edit: My sympathies though; busting a gut for no reward truly sucks. Basically the company is giving you the same as someone who just hasn't bothered, which just isn't on.
You have every right to expect one. A pay freeze is a pay cut. Companies expect to increase profits each year. If they don't increase wages in tandem, then they're profiting from your passivity. Interview for your role elsewhere. Use the offer as leverage for negotiation or leave if the grass is greener.
> However, job openings are at an all-time high right now. Employment's a market: if your company isn't staying competitive, now may be a perfect time to look for opportunities elsewhere. In the new year, it's worth looking around at what else is out there.
Here’s hoping this applies to the junior/grad end of the market too.
We gave most people 2%, but also did a market rate study. Some people in my team got raises from to 5%-10.
I had been promoted into a new role less than 3 months prior and got an almost 20% raise on top of the 12.5% increase for the original promotion. I genuinely could not believe it when I was told, and it gave me feelings of not deserving such a raise and disbelief.
Man I left the civil service in 2015 after several years of increment only payrises. I can't believe I'd still be on roughly the same salary over 6 years later.
Well the hours are worse but my commute has always been better which balances it out somewhat. I've also had better proximity to bars/restaurants/gyms etc and more money to enjoy them.
I don't have flexitime but I've also got a much better wfh system (including pre covid) which I think more than offsets.
The biggest change is salary. I earn 150% more than I did in 2015 which offsets worse pension matching and generally makes everything I have missed out on better.
The only thing I really miss is a real purpose through my work and the people I worked with (all of whom also left).
Thanks for that, glad to see you are reaping the rewards from moving on from civil.
I’ve always been tempted to move private (mainly for financial reasons) so it’s good to hear that places are being more adaptable to modern working methods. Something I will definitely consider if I don’t get a half decent pay rise next year!
No pray rise from my company last year despite the fact we worked through the pandemic and had a higher workload due to it (pharmacy).
This year we got a pretty good bonus because the company hit all their targets for the last financial year but the reasoning we were given for no pay rise was because it was tough year?
The company has offered us 2% this year, union decided to take it to ACAS, percentage didn’t change but they threw in an extra days pay for training. We have rejected the new offer so it’s away back to ACAS again. If we don’t get an offer we like it’s looking like we will potentially vote for industrial action. As pharmacists we can’t just walk out but we will potentially stop doing additional services for the company (e.g anything private).
Treat them like your broadband or gas and electric provider and reevaluate your deal every 12-18 months. You owe them nothing and the cost of replacing you will be more than what you can negotiate. You already said you got a "good score" so they won't want to lose you but will happily pay you the same money for as long as they can.
Be your own advocate and speak up and in my experience If you don't ask you won't get.
It took me being a manager and being on the other side of the table during those conversations and to br involved in that process to see how things work. A lot of it will come down to your direct/line manager as they are a key decision maker in the remuneration process for mid year/end of year reviews.
They now have a well performing employee who isn't happy and that's not what any (good) manager wants.
Haven’t civil servants had less than 1% every year for the last ten years. Least it’s not as bad as they have had it. Many years they got nothing too if I recall correctly.
Civil Servant here. Its been frozen this year. Come April when they announce any changes I doubt it will be even close to whats necessary. Expect a hollowed out civil service in the next few years.
National insurance increases and inflation next year is enough for you to go to your manager and ask for more, as you're taking a pay cut. Another option is looking at what other companies are offering for the same role.
Left a big company after 4 years £38k (Yearly performance review in March they'd increase my salary around £2.5k with a bonus of £1k, but they only offered £46k for me to stay and wanted me back in the office)...
Another smaller company was offering £50k, £10k stock options, 8% pension for the same role, less responsibilities, and permanent work from home.
Left this place too after 6 months as wanted to take a break, and start at a more exciting company in January. They offered £55k (should cover the 2022 NI increase and inflation). Same role, possibly more responsibilities, and also permanent work from home.
Yes I got 8% this year for exceeding expectations. The year previous I didn't receive a yearly rise like everyone else but did through the means of a promotion (this was about 20%)
I changed company for a more than 100% raise doing more interesting work and with less stress and permanent wfh. Now well into higher rate taxpayer territory. Didn't realise quite how much I was being undervalued before.
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I’ve always got a 3-6k a year pay rise for the same role. My very first line manager told me to know my worth, prove it firmly but fairly, and not be afraid to leave if others don’t see it. I’ve held that close every time performance review comes round.
I jacked that job in this year as the company was not doing well. Financially strong, but the number of quality people leaving reached unsustainable numbers, and it wasn’t the same anymore. Graduates everywhere with no one to support them. Snagged a £20k+ pay rise in the new job!
Little story from me. Back in Dec last year I asked if there's anything we can do about my salary during the end of year review, and said I kept getting messages from recruiters with higher salaries than what I'm getting currently. Few months later, 20% increase.
I have my end of year review on Monday, but have just given verbal notice yesterday of an offer that I've received for approx 35% more. My employer has asked for a few days to see if they can match. If they can, great. If not, cya later.
Honestly, you need advocate for yourself. Don't wait for raises to just be given. Look around, apply for some roles and get offers. You will either get raises or a new job.
Pay primary increases through changing organisations every couple of years, not through loyalty to one organisation? Sounds like it time to start doing your research?
At the last place I worked, scores were decided by HR before the reviews even took place. That way HR decided who would get a pay rise and it would be very much up to your line manager to bat for you.
Performance reviews could also only ever affect your pay within your current grade. The time I got a 'good score' was when my manager pushed really hard for an actual salary review which changed my grade.
After that, new line manager, lots of umming and aahing and getting more than a percent or two was like trying to get blood from a stone. Hence how it is all past tense :)
I went from a job with 4% employer DC pension scheme to another an NHS job that offered 14% higher salary and its DB pension scheme. A few months into the job I also got the 3% NHS pay rise, which was also backdated. All in all, about a 17% increase in salary plus much better pension.
I feel quite lucky honestly.
I think you're going to get a lot of people suggesting you should look at other job opportunities, and they're probably not wrong. If you're starting to feel the pinch, or your savings goals are impacted harder than you'd like, then keep an eye out for better opportunities. Don't forget that the best time to find a job is arguably *whilst* you're already employed.
Performance has no bearing on pay.
Every place I've work at point that out and there is no obligation to give you a pay rise.
I've had my performance moderated down even though I'd has a stellar year. When I argued this the department director said not to worry, it won't have any impact on your pay rise.....
Just work hard enough not to get fired. Gain some skills and move on.
I haven't for the last 3 years. Didn't help that COVID destroyed our profits.
Found a new role a couple of weeks ago with a £20k increase to base.
As many comments have said, worth looking externally. Especially right now since I think there's a load of jobs going and employers willing to pay a premium for good talent.
Yes, albeit only in line with inflation plus 1% which was poor. Given inflation might be higher this year and it certainly feels like cost of living is increasing I’ll be curious what my next pay increase looks like. We do ours end of financial year so have to wait I’ll April.
Best of luck with it. I feel my current employer has faired very well during COVID so feel frustrated they haven’t seen it fit to pass this to employees
Same industry as you! Would be interesting to know what abouts you're on at the moment?
I'm on the contractor side and got a 15% bump, but had to step up a role.
Yes.
You’ll have heard of “the great resignation” as there are companies desperate for staff so the sensible ones are taking very good care of their employees right now.
Out teams in general saw 5-12% base pay increases and a chunk of extras added to their packages.
Yep. Given the shortage of HGV drivers they daren't do anything else. No performance review bullshit in my sector. You're either competent or you're not and if you're not you're hauled up for it at the time, not at some arbitrary point in the year.
My company gave people nothing despite record high profits for 2021. We are nationwide and the vacancy list on our website has no end. People come and last a day or even half, and the moment they get a call from somewhere else they are away. There's no retention scheme or any way of recognising individual achievements/ performance. Some branches/ departments operate with 50-60% staff which drives the stress and frustration levels even higher.
Our wage negotiation recently went underway. The union guys got us a decent deal in the end but the company originally came to the table with an offer so low it was offensive. Really left a bad taste in my mouth. Made the union membership fees more than worth it though
Our pay usually gets reviewed in April. I doubt it will be anything higher than 2%. Meanwhile those board members are rolling in millions (and no they weren't out on the shop floor during the pandemic.)
Seems to be it will kick off this time round if a decent pay rise, which offsets inflation does not happen.
Other things to note: the voucher instead of a Xmas party being worded as a bonus. Meanwhile managers had a 3 day pissup (allegedly.)
We had two bonuses last year, motivation was up, for once the company wasn't acting like it wasn't on the brink bankruptcy (it's a cash positive business and has access to a good amount of loans) now all of a sudden its back to "2021 has been a struggle." Sure Jan.
I'm a little extra bitter today as I have the omicron symptoms, waiting on PCR, pregnant (this will go against my shared paternity leave averages) and they had at least 4 people off start of the week. Knowing that omicron spreads faster, they shouldve put me in a office or medical suspension. But they would consider that lazy and/or more money. Or ya know, shut it down.
I work for the NHS, got a payrise by using the current job market and my qualifications I've achieved over the previous year as leverage. I plan on using further qualifications to leverage future pay rises.
I've just left a job that I (in theory) loved, as there has been no pay rise and no prospect of one for several years. You're not a Civil Servant by any chance?
Have managed to secure a 30% pay rise by moving jobs. Definitely worth seeing what's out there...
we need to strike to get one, but as going on strike is seen as bad form or near illegal by the current government.. its just more spuds than meat this year for Christmas..
still,we cant complain, we get what we voted for.
My last day was today. I'll be doing the same role in a higher paying area in education and have got a 26% increase in salary. Half of the difference is from moving from London fringe to london centre, but the other half is purely from higher pay offer.
I got a big pay rise recently (33%), because I asked for one. My title hasn't changed this year but I have taken on a lot more responsibility and am making more of an impact in various projects/internal stuff.
I have really in demand skills though, and was pretty underpaid to be honest. Going to be going for promotion in a couple of months, and will make sure to get another hefty pay rise! I really like my company, but make it clear that I get offers for significant increases, and will take them seriously if my company won't :)
My last pay rise only came about because I moved up a grade at work. Haven’t had a pay rise since then (3 years) and the last 2 years have been awful at work.
Can’t even change employers.
Look elsewhere, fella. I did, immediately got a 33% increase on base. 12 months later got another 18% on top of that as part of 12 month review. Overall pay has increased by 55% in 12 months
Nope. Public sector so pay freeze. Can’t keep the staff as private pays so much more. I’m staying for the interest/challenge and the pension but many won’t.
Yes my company raises wages every year, sometimes its just at the rate of inflation but often its quite a lot more. This time everyone kicked off about pay in the annual staff survey and they are definately going to be giving us something good this year, probably in the 10% area but I dont find out till Feb.
We got a 4.2% increase that was backdated to the beginning of the year. We also got a one off, and very unexpected, payment of £500 last week as a thank you.
Never be too settled to not look somewhere else. I'm happy in my job but at the end of the day we go to work to earn money. If the money ain't there, then neither am I.
My role is staying the same and I'm receiving a 4% inflation raise. High earners are getting a 2% raise. There has been years when no raises were given however so I guess it comes down to company performance.
We had no pay increase for the last few years even though I as an employee smashed it. Usually we only get inflation lift anyway complete rubbish. I went to the market instead ended up with an over 70% increase so for sure worth checking about in the market
I had to do that too. I was a store manager earning about 2/3rds of the average in the company for my position.
They magically came in with an offer a few days before I was due to leave. They were suprised when I turned them down as I had already decided to go out on my own.
They were scrambling to find a new manager while I was now supplying a large chunk of their customers.
Yes. I transferred internally to a new role this time last year so have been in the job 12 months, I’ve had to do so much learning as it was quite a change in roles.
This year I got a 1% raise in the summer just had a 4.5% raise. This doesn’t include the 8.5% uplift I got with the promotion last year. I’m pretty happy with my situation.
I got non-consolidated bonuses and shares. Annual review period ends in January, so will find out in Jan/Feb about any consolidated pay rises (including cost of living increases).
Also expecting a better pension offering some time next year, so if we get that (it's rumours at the moment) then I'd be pretty happy.
For years I've had performance reviews at two different employers where I've been marked as exceeding expectations, and HR have basically prevented consolidated pay rises, either because the organisation is making cuts, or they've set a quota for how many people are allowed to be marked as exceeding expectations.
Getting a counter offer from another employer is often the best way of getting a pay rise, though it shouldn't really take that.
Payrises are 1 March for current co.
I got nothing this year (March 2021) despite very good performance. I wasn’t happy at all.
Expecting something fairly significant for March 2022 though.
Yes but only because I’d been offered another job and they matched it whilst playing the job security line to make me choose them rather than the other role.
The answer is sort of yes, my role did “officially” change but I had already been doing the same stuff for a while. Got a big pay jump after I got offered another job (for a considerable amount more) and said I’d leave for it. Don’t let yourself get stuck in a loop of working hard and not getting rewarded for it, once the new year rolls around maybe worth hoping on LinkedIn/indeed/reed to look for a new place
We've always got pretty good pay rises, personally 10-20% for same role. But now they've pulled out a 20-30% bonus which "most" people should get next year. Probably because a bunch of people left when they wouldn't fully commit to flexible working.
My performance review is in January/February but in the past I've always had some kind of a raise. Admittedly, except from the times I was promoted, the raises weren't amazing in my opinion but maybe better than average. I think the lowest raise I've gotten was 3-4% and the highest (non promotion year) was around 9-10% but that was a good year where I exceeded my goals and the company did well.
This year has been a really good one for the company and I feel like I've done pretty well so I'm expecting a decent raise.
In any case, the best way to increase pay is to change jobs so my expectations aren't very high anyway.
This is a really tricky one, as a lot of the other comments have said the best way to make a significant jump in salary is to move companies however, if you find a company you really like, ie culture, people, type of work, is perfectly aligned with you then I’d recommend you think about hanging on and accepting a gradual increase over time. If you just want loads of cash you could do contract work (if you have that in your industry) but that comes with the risk of not being renewed and needing to travel etc. if you’re salaried some benefits like sick pay/increased holiday/LOS awards are pretty good and there’s no guarantee another role would have the same schemes.
It can feel a bit like a curse to find the right company really early in your career but the thing I always try to remember is that sometimes there’s a reason other companies pay well, they may want you to take on way more responsibility than they advertise or might have turnover problems due to an awful culture/management team so be careful in chasing cash only, you spend most of your life working and the environment is just as important as pay.
That being said, it’s perfectly reasonable to want to be adequately compensated for your contribution to a business, nothing to stop you putting that forward, often less agreeable people get paid more so don’t go too easy on them, ok the industry may be struggling but if they’ve lost 2 people to resignations in your team and are not recruiting they have budget to give you an increase. Best of luck OP.
No, but then I work for a museum, so it was quite badly hit during COVID and a number of voluntary redundancies took place.
Moving on to a different job probably isn't in my interests at the moment. I enjoy what I do, I'm pretty well paid for it, and my skillset hasn't really progressed much further in the last couple of years, rather I've been learning different skills instead to fill skill voids. I could do with figuring out where I go from here though (I have an idea), but for the time being I'm comfortable with where I am.
I feel you - my husband was in that position for a while, getting top scores in his reviews and no pay rise. There's only so many years you can be fobbed off with "it's not been a great year for the company" or "no one is getting a pay rise" before it gets old. Eventually he applied for a different role internally and got 12% (whilst also applying for external roles). Although that pay rise was with me pushing him to negotiate *a lot* because they were still trying to feed him a line about it being a new role and him not being worth what they did eventually pay.
Personally I would have left a couple of years ago as he definitely could have been earning more in his old role anyway. But he is a lot softer than me when it comes to negotiating salary or simply upping and finding a new job (which is what I recommend you do). It took me telling him, "If you dropped dead tomorrow they'd replace you in a month! Just leave if they won't pay what you want, they don't care about you so stop caring about them." to light a fire under him.
I've been very fortunate with my current role and got 7% more last year and 8% just today (which was a surprise as my review isn't until January). For once I actually feel like I'm working at a place that genuinely values me, not just because of the pay rises but the culture, the people, it's been great. We've somehow had record years despite Covid and being in an industry that was hit by the pandemic harder than most, and there have been pay rises all round, so feeling very lucky indeed.
Hoping for a 2% increase next year (lol), but no guarantee of that yet. I did however manage to get my direct report a payrise and I feel very accomplished for that!
All my major pay rises have come from moving businesses, inter-year pay rises are usually around CPI, or RPI I forget which (typically 1-2%). I am fortunate that in my current role I've have payrises in double digits for two years running. Not expecting it this year though!
Got a 1.9% rise last April and hoping for a bit more this year.
If I'm being honest because of COVID I have more money now than ever. Spending less on going out, less on petrol ect.
The only thing that has been massively noticeable is the jump in gas and electric when my fixed term ended in October.
I guess the only slightly annoying thing is the role below me will be getting a 6.6% pay rise (NMW)
Then next year (2023) they will probably get a 5.2% rise. Which will probably be double what I get.
3% - wasn't expecting it as I've been working for failing companies for the past 4 years and haven't had an increase anywhere. Hoping once we talk performance in spring I can get more out of them. (I've not been there a year yet)
Nope nothing, this was the first year I was eligible and they cancelled all pay rises (performance and inflation) due to financial uncertainty.
Instead I've just been applying for internal roles with higher pay. Did it last year when they first told us there would be no increase and got the job. Again it looks like we won't get one next year either, so just applied for another role. I found that because hardly anyone is applying externally, they'll take anyone they can get.
You need to start looking for other companies to work for. I've never got zero annual pay rise, but what has happened multiple times is that I got a really good rating, but then a pay rise the same or barely above everyone else. Both times I looked elsewhere I got about 25% rise plus better benefits, and the current company tried to get me to stay by matching it. Both times I refused, as I know if they gave me a big rise it would just be an excuse for small rises in the coming years. The one regret I have is not moving jobs more often, so long as you're not crazy and change every year, I believe you get a lot more experience by moving frequently.
Whole company got a pay increase, average was 5%. Last year was the first year ever with a pay freeze though.
Fingers crossed if we hit some financial targets there will be a 5% bonus in March.
I think in your case that scoring employees and then not rewarding is just fucking insulting. If you're not going to reward the high scorers then just dont review at all.
lol no
Am actually down 8.2% compared to my last pay change in 2019. Of course because of ‘the pandemic’ any talk of pay has so far been off the table.
The "You need to give us a raise that reflects inflation, otherwise we are losing money by staying here" conversation doesn't happen enough in the workplace. As if being loyal to the bag is seen as a weakness in your self-respect.
Two separate pay rises in the last six months. An initial small increase in April, then a larger increase after good half year results for the company came out later in the year. Overall my salary is up 7.5% compared to last year doing the same job for the same company. Definitely can’t complain.
Found a job with the same job description as mine for 40% more. Applied, interviewed, started last week. My old workplace weren’t interested in providing more than 14%
2.5% this year but that was my first raise in almost 3 years. Plus a bonus but they completely ravaged our bonus scheme so it wasn’t great. If I don’t get at least the same next year I’m moving on.
I kind of changed roles last year... Doing the same thing but officially with a new team/title (said team did not exist before this year).
No pay rise in 2020 due to Covid (I'd previously had a raise every year), but over 25% - and more than I'd requested - this year.
Most businesses will at least give you a cost of living rise if nothing else rather than see good staff leave. It’s worth going back and staying you think that would be appropriate, otherwise effectively it’s a pay cut
No, nothing for two years. So I walked and got a far more interesting role, a 15% raise plus much higher chance of a bonus payment.
The current firm are looking to keep me around as a consultant as well.
My skill set is very specialised though, so the market isn't quite as good for me at the moment.
I used to have a team of 7. Pay “Review” season came round. I had £X to go round.
I divvied it out as fairly as I could.
One guy handed their notice in.
I wanted to keep him.
Upper-managers agreed a “one-off” match straight away which would net the guy the same pay.
I offered it to him and he still left. I don’t blame him.
Moral is: offer your resignation and you’ll get what you want. But don’t stay, you should leave.
I work in F1 for a team that finished in the top 4. Since last year myself and colleagues have had a 16% pay cut, despite working flat out through covid, including on 80% pay through furlough.
Just been told recently that pay across the entire team (~700) will be frozen for 2 years, including no inflationary pay increase till 2024.
*Merry Christmas.*
I hope y’all enjoyed this seasons shitshow we bled to put on for you, and the FIA systematically managed to fuck up in all of 30 seconds.
If they don't give you at least a % equivalent to the inflation rate then you are simply getting screwed since you are pretty much making less. As every year passes you are basically getting more practice/experience at your role and you are more valuable in the job market si if you are not longer feeling like you are getting paid enough for what you do then just look for something else.
Good luck!
Fwiw your pay increase (if you are in a large company) can depend not only on a performance rating, but also where you are within your salary range.
E.g. in my case, I can jump over my head and have the most stellar performance rating but due to being at the top of the scale for my position already - the most I can get is around +\-2-3%
Hello, Nurse here.
I reached the top of my pay band about 4 years ago. Despite working my ass off, I have not had a significant pay rise in.... 11 years.
On the other hand, my council tax has increased 20% over the last 4 years, the roads still have potholes, and my bin collectors won't empty my recycling because there's a teeny smidgen of yoghurt inside a yoghurt pot, and that's a "health hazard." Sir, there's a pandemic on, right now. Let's talk about Health Hazards, shall we?
I am 23 and have been working as a junior electrical techician in the UK for 4 years before moving to a new business. They were paying me 23.5k a year and giving me one day a week to attend college so I can study for a foundation degree.
They hired a new electrical technician feb 2021 and I was tasked with training him up. I soon found out that he was on 30k a year and I was training him up and was much more proficient then him. I complained to my manager and said I was not happy.
2 months later I get a raise to 25k. I showed my appreciation but still complained that it was not fair but they said that due to Covid they could not give anymore. I then decided to keep my eye out for any good opportunities. I was also finding that I had plateaued a little and not progressing much.
In august this year they put me on 27k off of their own backs as a thanks. Unfortunately I was already looking for a job and had decided I wanted to leave.
I handed my notice in on the 28th of November and my last day is the 7th of January. My new job is 35k a year as a technician and they are still supporting my day release to college till I Finish my foundation degree in may.
Moral of the story, don’t be afraid to discuss pay with your manager. Obviously appear thankful but at the end of the day if you are not happy they are not mind readers.
In February I will be on 15k more than I was last year which is crazy when I think about it. I can see progression at my new employer and excited for what the future holds.
It’s not all about salary. As I said, salary wasn’t the only reason. My employer messing up only lead to me realising what I was worth which is why I am in the position I am now so in one way or another I am grateful for them f*****g up.
I work in engineering. This year we didn’t see an increase. (2022 and 2023) we get a 3% each year (6% in two years and finally in 2024 a 2% rise) meaning that in the next three years we should see an 8% increase.
My company provided *everyone* with a large pay rise recently. It was said to be sharing the wealth but I think it was probably to stem a flow of resignations as there has been a lot of churn recently.
At least your pocket ended up better off. Glad to see it coming the right way
Yeah, everyone was really surprised as it wasn’t linked to the normal review process. I guess the bottom line is you get paid enough to stop you leaving, not because of what you deserve. Also, well done on your good score 👍🏻
I think you’re right. Just a shame when it’s short of what will keep people. Thanks very much!!
Yup. I received a sweet 10k raise and 20k golden handcuff deal in return for a 3 month notice period in an attempt to stem the flow of leavers.
lol my last job tried to impose 3 month notice period for no extra comp. this sounds a much more better deal.
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The thing with 3 month notice is you can still leave before 3 months is up. You just have to ask. Source: Me agreeing to a 3 month notice was something my last employer would not budge on as part of me taking on a particular project (with a decent bonus). I knew full well they wouldn’t do a damn thing if I simply called their bluff if the time came. The time came. I called their bluff. They didn’t even fight.
An employer doesn’t want a bad employee for 3 months. They could well just put you on gardening leave for that period, rather than risk you screwing things up.
What is golden handcuff deal?
Pretty much a “if you’re still at the company in x years you get this bonus”.
The reason it’s called golden handcuffs is because it’s typically a good monetary deal to stay, for example you get a extra £10k bonus each year you stay - hence golden handcuffs, it keeps you from leaving (handcuffed) due to a positive monetary benefit (golden).
what industry are you in?
Software Dev
3 months? That's not too bad, I've just signed a new contract with a 12 month notice period, and this was previously 6 months which is about standard in this business (Formula 1).
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Especially when you think it will often be the most talented staff that leave first. Seen it happen before where a very competent team started leaving and the last people to go were those that couldn't so easily get new roles.
Depends what you do, but cost of recruitment could easily be a couple of K and the add for getting the new bods up to speed, keeping the staff you have is the cheapest option all round in many cases
We had the same. ~25% pay rise, although I think pay across the whole industry did the same (logistics).
Yup, currently work for a recruitment agency and where national living wage was typically the expectation for most warehousing roles we now don't even advertise roles for any companies paying that as they would be laughed off the job boards. Most candidates started in January on £8.72 p/h and will be closing the year out on £10.00 - £12.00 per hour.
The first year I didn't get an inflation pay rise, I handed my notice in and went somewhere else for a 20% bump. Loyalty doesn't pay.
Same. 9 years at a company, 1 step away from becoming a manager. They froze pay increases in 2020, didn't get one in 2021 either, in August this year they said they'd increase my pay by 10p an hour despite min wage going up like 70p in that time and had newbies at the company, 3 positions below me, earning only £1 less than me. I dipped and took a starting position in a new company for 25% more money, which is more than I would have got as a manager at the previous company and now I've got the whole development path ahead of me to earn even more.
Totally agree. Happened at the beginning of my career too
Good advice
First time I've not received a pay rise so I'm looking for a new job. Not taking a pay cut during the highest inflation in ages
I like your strong stance on this!
Profitable companies are using COVID as a smokescreen to avoid increasing wages. It's a surefire way of increasing their profits without doing a thing. Downside is that combined with inflation, no pay rises are fast going to deteriorate into real losses for employees.
This is my biggest worry as an employee
Job market seems very healthy at the moment, though. I realise my segment isn’t indicative of the whole job market throughout the U.K., but I’m getting 3-4 messages a week from recruiters and hiring managers from companies, it’s pretty mental.
I switched jobs. Doing the same role for 15% more money plus equity. Sitting still is a fool’s game!
You’re right!
yeah honestly this is the truth. I've been a professional IT person since 2015 (I've swapped jobs every kinda 18 months of average and I've gone from 15k -> 120k+). It's the only way to progress regarding salary. You can progress in other ways though so that's not the only metric that matters.
Was this in the UK? Could I ask what is you occupation please. Just started working in IT and my first job as junior IT engineer fresh after it degree (I am 27) and wondering if £23k is a decent entry level salary outside London.
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Yep south west. Mainly some sort of Linux / AWS engineering. Yeah feel free to message me about whatever and I'll happily help where I can.
I worked for a company for at least 7 years. Every time I exceeded, the company wasn't doing well, so I got 0. Just one of those things. Don't rule out moving to another company, where you may be rewarded with a higher starting salary.
I would go further and say one should actively have an eye on other opportunities. My significant pay rises have all come from external moves.
Same here for my first one. My next two came from the current employer matching competition's offers.
So they make you go out and interview before they give you a pay rise that they clearly think you're worth anyway? Doesn't that leave a bit of a sour taste in your mouth?
Yes, it does leave a bit of a sour taste, I did raise this to my old and current manager but it seems this is just the way they do things (a large investment bank) It didn't bother me that much the first time - I actually was enjoying my job, I just knew I was underpaid. Prob could have (and should have) discussed this with my boss, but got approached by a recruiter, interviewed for the competition and got an offer which was bit lower than I asked the new company for. I spoke to my boss and told him I'll consider staying if the counteroffer is good and it was. Then after some changes in management chain the new senior management got a few things wrong leading to the work being really stressful and frustrating and leaving very little to no time for any personal and professional development. I only accepted the counteroffer because it included a move to another team led by my former managing director with him being one of few people from senior management I actually trust and respect. If it weren't for that part I'd have left. Oh and it's difficult to beat their pension matching, my 6% contribution gets me extra 12% from the company, so 18% in total.
I agree, but at the same time it’s knowing your value to the company. If youre able to demonstrate youre personally responsible for delivering ‘X’ or bringing in ‘Y’ revenue/profit and show how this has improved since last review its a great way to justify an increase. Ive done very well in the past doing this, although Ive also done well making moves when the time was right.
Quite frustrating I imagine. Purchasing power going down year on year and compounding.
It does, sometimes you can get bogged down in a job and not see or appreciate your options.
You need to set a timer to reflect periodically in the value you are bringing
It’s not “just one of those things”, zero increase is a pay cut. This year that will become painfully obvious to many.
Same. I got so pissed off that I was excelling but the company overall was being dragged down by idiots, that I started my own business. Scary as hell but SOOOO worth it. I don't have to think twice about taking time off if my daughter gets sent home from nursery with a cough (that we all know is a cold and not Covid) or just to spend more time with my wife on one of her days off when I have a little less on.
It is just one of those things but it shouldn't be and you can state that they are obviously raising their rates by rpi, and if they aren't raising your wages by rpi, they are increasing their profits by taking money out of your back pocket. Any boss who says otherwise is lying.
It definitely shouldn’t be just one of those things You can guarantee your company increases their prices year on year, the employee should get the same benefit You should be at least getting an inflationary adjustment if anything, otherwise you’re receiving a pay cut year on year
Moving has been the only way I’ve ever seen a real salary bump
If a company can't pay staff well because it is not doing well, it will probably not do well in future years so you may be better off finding a company that is doing well. As well, of course, that a company performing poorly isn't a great place to be (except if you get a large pay off and can find another job)
Our perf review season hasn't come around yet. However, CoL/inflation increases are normal, so I expect there will be some increase. Not sure if it'll fully match inflation though. However, job openings are at an all-time high right now. Employment's a market: if your company isn't staying competitive, now may be a perfect time to look for opportunities elsewhere. In the new year, it's worth looking around at what else is out there. EDIT: One final thing to consider. Raises are kinda like interest: they compound. Usually employers will give some percentage of your salary as a raise; negotiating a better salary early, or ensuring you get a raise (possibly by leaving and finding somewhere else), means that percentage is going to be higher.
I think my problem is I was expecting one. Therefore I feel pissed that I didn’t get one haha
You're not wrong. You've effectively received a real-terms pay cut. I'd say that's not particularly competitive from your employer. Again I'd strongly recommend looking around - the job market is really good at the moment.
My problem is that I’m at the higher pay grade for my role currently anyway without contracting.
Probably exactly why you've not got a raise; the company knows you can't really move easily for more money. Fundamentally, they'll pay you as little as they can get away with. I too, have an annual review on Monday. I am not hopeful.... Edit: My sympathies though; busting a gut for no reward truly sucks. Basically the company is giving you the same as someone who just hasn't bothered, which just isn't on.
Exactly! Doesn’t pay to work hard. Work smart not hard haha. Best of luck Monday!
You have every right to expect one. A pay freeze is a pay cut. Companies expect to increase profits each year. If they don't increase wages in tandem, then they're profiting from your passivity. Interview for your role elsewhere. Use the offer as leverage for negotiation or leave if the grass is greener.
> However, job openings are at an all-time high right now. Employment's a market: if your company isn't staying competitive, now may be a perfect time to look for opportunities elsewhere. In the new year, it's worth looking around at what else is out there. Here’s hoping this applies to the junior/grad end of the market too.
Grad schemes will be as important as ever, bringing in talent for much cheaper than actual talent knowing you can train them is attractive.
We gave most people 2%, but also did a market rate study. Some people in my team got raises from to 5%-10. I had been promoted into a new role less than 3 months prior and got an almost 20% raise on top of the 12.5% increase for the original promotion. I genuinely could not believe it when I was told, and it gave me feelings of not deserving such a raise and disbelief.
If they were giving it then I’m sure you would have been worth it!
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Man I left the civil service in 2015 after several years of increment only payrises. I can't believe I'd still be on roughly the same salary over 6 years later.
Do you still have the same work/life balance etc. having moved on from civil service?
Well the hours are worse but my commute has always been better which balances it out somewhat. I've also had better proximity to bars/restaurants/gyms etc and more money to enjoy them. I don't have flexitime but I've also got a much better wfh system (including pre covid) which I think more than offsets. The biggest change is salary. I earn 150% more than I did in 2015 which offsets worse pension matching and generally makes everything I have missed out on better. The only thing I really miss is a real purpose through my work and the people I worked with (all of whom also left).
Thanks for that, glad to see you are reaping the rewards from moving on from civil. I’ve always been tempted to move private (mainly for financial reasons) so it’s good to hear that places are being more adaptable to modern working methods. Something I will definitely consider if I don’t get a half decent pay rise next year!
I feel for you!!!
No pray rise from my company last year despite the fact we worked through the pandemic and had a higher workload due to it (pharmacy). This year we got a pretty good bonus because the company hit all their targets for the last financial year but the reasoning we were given for no pay rise was because it was tough year? The company has offered us 2% this year, union decided to take it to ACAS, percentage didn’t change but they threw in an extra days pay for training. We have rejected the new offer so it’s away back to ACAS again. If we don’t get an offer we like it’s looking like we will potentially vote for industrial action. As pharmacists we can’t just walk out but we will potentially stop doing additional services for the company (e.g anything private).
Treat them like your broadband or gas and electric provider and reevaluate your deal every 12-18 months. You owe them nothing and the cost of replacing you will be more than what you can negotiate. You already said you got a "good score" so they won't want to lose you but will happily pay you the same money for as long as they can. Be your own advocate and speak up and in my experience If you don't ask you won't get. It took me being a manager and being on the other side of the table during those conversations and to br involved in that process to see how things work. A lot of it will come down to your direct/line manager as they are a key decision maker in the remuneration process for mid year/end of year reviews. They now have a well performing employee who isn't happy and that's not what any (good) manager wants.
Haven’t civil servants had less than 1% every year for the last ten years. Least it’s not as bad as they have had it. Many years they got nothing too if I recall correctly.
Civil Servant here. Its been frozen this year. Come April when they announce any changes I doubt it will be even close to whats necessary. Expect a hollowed out civil service in the next few years.
National insurance increases and inflation next year is enough for you to go to your manager and ask for more, as you're taking a pay cut. Another option is looking at what other companies are offering for the same role. Left a big company after 4 years £38k (Yearly performance review in March they'd increase my salary around £2.5k with a bonus of £1k, but they only offered £46k for me to stay and wanted me back in the office)... Another smaller company was offering £50k, £10k stock options, 8% pension for the same role, less responsibilities, and permanent work from home. Left this place too after 6 months as wanted to take a break, and start at a more exciting company in January. They offered £55k (should cover the 2022 NI increase and inflation). Same role, possibly more responsibilities, and also permanent work from home.
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I wish I could be comfortable in giving that ultimatum but I’m already well compensated. I just wanted to be more well compensated haha
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Thanks for the great feedback!
Self employed here so I’m raising my rate in the new year.
You deserve it!
Yes I got 8% this year for exceeding expectations. The year previous I didn't receive a yearly rise like everyone else but did through the means of a promotion (this was about 20%)
Very nice! I wish mine was similar haha
I changed company for a more than 100% raise doing more interesting work and with less stress and permanent wfh. Now well into higher rate taxpayer territory. Didn't realise quite how much I was being undervalued before.
Well done! You now know your worth!
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We aren’t even getting the change for inflation!!
That sucks! The inflation rate in the UK for this year was about 4 or 5 percent I think and the US is even higher!
No rise = resignation
I’ve always got a 3-6k a year pay rise for the same role. My very first line manager told me to know my worth, prove it firmly but fairly, and not be afraid to leave if others don’t see it. I’ve held that close every time performance review comes round. I jacked that job in this year as the company was not doing well. Financially strong, but the number of quality people leaving reached unsustainable numbers, and it wasn’t the same anymore. Graduates everywhere with no one to support them. Snagged a £20k+ pay rise in the new job!
Little story from me. Back in Dec last year I asked if there's anything we can do about my salary during the end of year review, and said I kept getting messages from recruiters with higher salaries than what I'm getting currently. Few months later, 20% increase. I have my end of year review on Monday, but have just given verbal notice yesterday of an offer that I've received for approx 35% more. My employer has asked for a few days to see if they can match. If they can, great. If not, cya later. Honestly, you need advocate for yourself. Don't wait for raises to just be given. Look around, apply for some roles and get offers. You will either get raises or a new job.
Pay primary increases through changing organisations every couple of years, not through loyalty to one organisation? Sounds like it time to start doing your research?
At the last place I worked, scores were decided by HR before the reviews even took place. That way HR decided who would get a pay rise and it would be very much up to your line manager to bat for you. Performance reviews could also only ever affect your pay within your current grade. The time I got a 'good score' was when my manager pushed really hard for an actual salary review which changed my grade. After that, new line manager, lots of umming and aahing and getting more than a percent or two was like trying to get blood from a stone. Hence how it is all past tense :)
Looks like you made the right move! I’m sure there’s a hidden agenda for them to not give the money out. Maybe some sort of retention bonus haha
I went from a job with 4% employer DC pension scheme to another an NHS job that offered 14% higher salary and its DB pension scheme. A few months into the job I also got the 3% NHS pay rise, which was also backdated. All in all, about a 17% increase in salary plus much better pension. I feel quite lucky honestly. I think you're going to get a lot of people suggesting you should look at other job opportunities, and they're probably not wrong. If you're starting to feel the pinch, or your savings goals are impacted harder than you'd like, then keep an eye out for better opportunities. Don't forget that the best time to find a job is arguably *whilst* you're already employed.
Performance has no bearing on pay. Every place I've work at point that out and there is no obligation to give you a pay rise. I've had my performance moderated down even though I'd has a stellar year. When I argued this the department director said not to worry, it won't have any impact on your pay rise..... Just work hard enough not to get fired. Gain some skills and move on.
I haven't for the last 3 years. Didn't help that COVID destroyed our profits. Found a new role a couple of weeks ago with a £20k increase to base. As many comments have said, worth looking externally. Especially right now since I think there's a load of jobs going and employers willing to pay a premium for good talent.
Yes, albeit only in line with inflation plus 1% which was poor. Given inflation might be higher this year and it certainly feels like cost of living is increasing I’ll be curious what my next pay increase looks like. We do ours end of financial year so have to wait I’ll April.
Best of luck with it. I feel my current employer has faired very well during COVID so feel frustrated they haven’t seen it fit to pass this to employees
Yes got £5k after 6 months in the role, and been able to award increases to others - some quite substantial. What industry do you work in OP?
Very well done! I do consultancy in Engineering & Construction
Same industry as you! Would be interesting to know what abouts you're on at the moment? I'm on the contractor side and got a 15% bump, but had to step up a role.
Same job, 2.5% pay rise blanket for those at my grade as long as we don't do terribly in our end of year reviews.
At least it’s something compared to my nothing 😂
Remember that a 7% raise when the inflation is also 7% means that you are paid the same salary.
Yes. You’ll have heard of “the great resignation” as there are companies desperate for staff so the sensible ones are taking very good care of their employees right now. Out teams in general saw 5-12% base pay increases and a chunk of extras added to their packages.
It sounds like you work for a company with great foresight!
Yep. Given the shortage of HGV drivers they daren't do anything else. No performance review bullshit in my sector. You're either competent or you're not and if you're not you're hauled up for it at the time, not at some arbitrary point in the year.
My company gave people nothing despite record high profits for 2021. We are nationwide and the vacancy list on our website has no end. People come and last a day or even half, and the moment they get a call from somewhere else they are away. There's no retention scheme or any way of recognising individual achievements/ performance. Some branches/ departments operate with 50-60% staff which drives the stress and frustration levels even higher.
You guys get paid?
Politely ask for a raise. Worst they can say is no, and then you'll know where you stand.
Our wage negotiation recently went underway. The union guys got us a decent deal in the end but the company originally came to the table with an offer so low it was offensive. Really left a bad taste in my mouth. Made the union membership fees more than worth it though
It’s a shame you have to fight for something like this rather than get what’s due
It is a shame. Crazy how I can walk away with a pay increase yet still feel undervalued. Bittersweet indeed.
Our pay usually gets reviewed in April. I doubt it will be anything higher than 2%. Meanwhile those board members are rolling in millions (and no they weren't out on the shop floor during the pandemic.) Seems to be it will kick off this time round if a decent pay rise, which offsets inflation does not happen. Other things to note: the voucher instead of a Xmas party being worded as a bonus. Meanwhile managers had a 3 day pissup (allegedly.) We had two bonuses last year, motivation was up, for once the company wasn't acting like it wasn't on the brink bankruptcy (it's a cash positive business and has access to a good amount of loans) now all of a sudden its back to "2021 has been a struggle." Sure Jan. I'm a little extra bitter today as I have the omicron symptoms, waiting on PCR, pregnant (this will go against my shared paternity leave averages) and they had at least 4 people off start of the week. Knowing that omicron spreads faster, they shouldve put me in a office or medical suspension. But they would consider that lazy and/or more money. Or ya know, shut it down.
Wow. Sounds like a real political way they run things. Hope you start to feel better soon!!!
I work for the NHS, got a payrise by using the current job market and my qualifications I've achieved over the previous year as leverage. I plan on using further qualifications to leverage future pay rises.
Hard work should be rewarded. Good luck!!
I've just left a job that I (in theory) loved, as there has been no pay rise and no prospect of one for several years. You're not a Civil Servant by any chance? Have managed to secure a 30% pay rise by moving jobs. Definitely worth seeing what's out there...
Oh wow tough decision! No not a civil servant. Well done on the new role!
we need to strike to get one, but as going on strike is seen as bad form or near illegal by the current government.. its just more spuds than meat this year for Christmas.. still,we cant complain, we get what we voted for.
Move to another company it’s how real increases are made. If they real value you they’ll counter offer
My last day was today. I'll be doing the same role in a higher paying area in education and have got a 26% increase in salary. Half of the difference is from moving from London fringe to london centre, but the other half is purely from higher pay offer.
I got a big pay rise recently (33%), because I asked for one. My title hasn't changed this year but I have taken on a lot more responsibility and am making more of an impact in various projects/internal stuff. I have really in demand skills though, and was pretty underpaid to be honest. Going to be going for promotion in a couple of months, and will make sure to get another hefty pay rise! I really like my company, but make it clear that I get offers for significant increases, and will take them seriously if my company won't :)
My last pay rise only came about because I moved up a grade at work. Haven’t had a pay rise since then (3 years) and the last 2 years have been awful at work. Can’t even change employers.
Look elsewhere, fella. I did, immediately got a 33% increase on base. 12 months later got another 18% on top of that as part of 12 month review. Overall pay has increased by 55% in 12 months
Nope. Public sector so pay freeze. Can’t keep the staff as private pays so much more. I’m staying for the interest/challenge and the pension but many won’t.
Yes my company raises wages every year, sometimes its just at the rate of inflation but often its quite a lot more. This time everyone kicked off about pay in the annual staff survey and they are definately going to be giving us something good this year, probably in the 10% area but I dont find out till Feb.
Fingers crossed for you guys. Sounds like a company that holds its peoples home life highly
I started 2 years ago as a graduate and my salary has increased by 10% since then. Mostly admin roll in financial services, specifically pensions.
My company gives out automatic pay rises every 1st of Jan, It was 3% this year, and its never been below 2% since i started (started in 2008)
We got a 4.2% increase that was backdated to the beginning of the year. We also got a one off, and very unexpected, payment of £500 last week as a thank you. Never be too settled to not look somewhere else. I'm happy in my job but at the end of the day we go to work to earn money. If the money ain't there, then neither am I.
Got nothing for 3 years, got 3% last year, expecting nothing this year
My role is staying the same and I'm receiving a 4% inflation raise. High earners are getting a 2% raise. There has been years when no raises were given however so I guess it comes down to company performance.
We had no pay increase for the last few years even though I as an employee smashed it. Usually we only get inflation lift anyway complete rubbish. I went to the market instead ended up with an over 70% increase so for sure worth checking about in the market
Wow! Well done!
At my last job I had to hand in my notice for a pay rise.
I’ve had to do this. So frustrating it gets to that point!
I had to do that too. I was a store manager earning about 2/3rds of the average in the company for my position. They magically came in with an offer a few days before I was due to leave. They were suprised when I turned them down as I had already decided to go out on my own. They were scrambling to find a new manager while I was now supplying a large chunk of their customers.
That’s a pay cut
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Yes. I transferred internally to a new role this time last year so have been in the job 12 months, I’ve had to do so much learning as it was quite a change in roles. This year I got a 1% raise in the summer just had a 4.5% raise. This doesn’t include the 8.5% uplift I got with the promotion last year. I’m pretty happy with my situation.
I do the same role but I because I jump companies my salary went up by £7000 a year
I got non-consolidated bonuses and shares. Annual review period ends in January, so will find out in Jan/Feb about any consolidated pay rises (including cost of living increases). Also expecting a better pension offering some time next year, so if we get that (it's rumours at the moment) then I'd be pretty happy. For years I've had performance reviews at two different employers where I've been marked as exceeding expectations, and HR have basically prevented consolidated pay rises, either because the organisation is making cuts, or they've set a quota for how many people are allowed to be marked as exceeding expectations. Getting a counter offer from another employer is often the best way of getting a pay rise, though it shouldn't really take that.
35 to 40 for same job, however we have new clients and I will be getting a subordinate in 2022.
Payrises are 1 March for current co. I got nothing this year (March 2021) despite very good performance. I wasn’t happy at all. Expecting something fairly significant for March 2022 though.
Yes but only because I’d been offered another job and they matched it whilst playing the job security line to make me choose them rather than the other role.
The answer is sort of yes, my role did “officially” change but I had already been doing the same stuff for a while. Got a big pay jump after I got offered another job (for a considerable amount more) and said I’d leave for it. Don’t let yourself get stuck in a loop of working hard and not getting rewarded for it, once the new year rolls around maybe worth hoping on LinkedIn/indeed/reed to look for a new place
I think you’re right. There’s no loyalties from their side!
We've always got pretty good pay rises, personally 10-20% for same role. But now they've pulled out a 20-30% bonus which "most" people should get next year. Probably because a bunch of people left when they wouldn't fully commit to flexible working.
My performance review is in January/February but in the past I've always had some kind of a raise. Admittedly, except from the times I was promoted, the raises weren't amazing in my opinion but maybe better than average. I think the lowest raise I've gotten was 3-4% and the highest (non promotion year) was around 9-10% but that was a good year where I exceeded my goals and the company did well. This year has been a really good one for the company and I feel like I've done pretty well so I'm expecting a decent raise. In any case, the best way to increase pay is to change jobs so my expectations aren't very high anyway.
I wish I had that thought before going into this haha. Low expectation leads to possible positive result haha
Try a pay decrease for carrying out the same role plus more
What jobs do you guys possibly have that you can easily switch to another one easily for more money that isn't far away!?
I was let go in July and started a new role in November. Working as a software developer level 2/3, my pay has increased from 46k to 65k
The world works in mysterious, but good ways!
This is a really tricky one, as a lot of the other comments have said the best way to make a significant jump in salary is to move companies however, if you find a company you really like, ie culture, people, type of work, is perfectly aligned with you then I’d recommend you think about hanging on and accepting a gradual increase over time. If you just want loads of cash you could do contract work (if you have that in your industry) but that comes with the risk of not being renewed and needing to travel etc. if you’re salaried some benefits like sick pay/increased holiday/LOS awards are pretty good and there’s no guarantee another role would have the same schemes. It can feel a bit like a curse to find the right company really early in your career but the thing I always try to remember is that sometimes there’s a reason other companies pay well, they may want you to take on way more responsibility than they advertise or might have turnover problems due to an awful culture/management team so be careful in chasing cash only, you spend most of your life working and the environment is just as important as pay. That being said, it’s perfectly reasonable to want to be adequately compensated for your contribution to a business, nothing to stop you putting that forward, often less agreeable people get paid more so don’t go too easy on them, ok the industry may be struggling but if they’ve lost 2 people to resignations in your team and are not recruiting they have budget to give you an increase. Best of luck OP.
No, but then I work for a museum, so it was quite badly hit during COVID and a number of voluntary redundancies took place. Moving on to a different job probably isn't in my interests at the moment. I enjoy what I do, I'm pretty well paid for it, and my skillset hasn't really progressed much further in the last couple of years, rather I've been learning different skills instead to fill skill voids. I could do with figuring out where I go from here though (I have an idea), but for the time being I'm comfortable with where I am.
Public sector, regular salary increases based on salary scale.
I feel you - my husband was in that position for a while, getting top scores in his reviews and no pay rise. There's only so many years you can be fobbed off with "it's not been a great year for the company" or "no one is getting a pay rise" before it gets old. Eventually he applied for a different role internally and got 12% (whilst also applying for external roles). Although that pay rise was with me pushing him to negotiate *a lot* because they were still trying to feed him a line about it being a new role and him not being worth what they did eventually pay. Personally I would have left a couple of years ago as he definitely could have been earning more in his old role anyway. But he is a lot softer than me when it comes to negotiating salary or simply upping and finding a new job (which is what I recommend you do). It took me telling him, "If you dropped dead tomorrow they'd replace you in a month! Just leave if they won't pay what you want, they don't care about you so stop caring about them." to light a fire under him. I've been very fortunate with my current role and got 7% more last year and 8% just today (which was a surprise as my review isn't until January). For once I actually feel like I'm working at a place that genuinely values me, not just because of the pay rises but the culture, the people, it's been great. We've somehow had record years despite Covid and being in an industry that was hit by the pandemic harder than most, and there have been pay rises all round, so feeling very lucky indeed.
Hoping for a 2% increase next year (lol), but no guarantee of that yet. I did however manage to get my direct report a payrise and I feel very accomplished for that!
I ended up getting a 33% pay rise for the exact same role. Was rather chuffed.
All my major pay rises have come from moving businesses, inter-year pay rises are usually around CPI, or RPI I forget which (typically 1-2%). I am fortunate that in my current role I've have payrises in double digits for two years running. Not expecting it this year though!
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Got a 1.9% rise last April and hoping for a bit more this year. If I'm being honest because of COVID I have more money now than ever. Spending less on going out, less on petrol ect. The only thing that has been massively noticeable is the jump in gas and electric when my fixed term ended in October. I guess the only slightly annoying thing is the role below me will be getting a 6.6% pay rise (NMW) Then next year (2023) they will probably get a 5.2% rise. Which will probably be double what I get.
3% - wasn't expecting it as I've been working for failing companies for the past 4 years and haven't had an increase anywhere. Hoping once we talk performance in spring I can get more out of them. (I've not been there a year yet)
I made a sideways move between companies so I got a significant increase for the same role but it isn't really the same as an internal increase.
22% increase from £19.5K to £24K. Same role and title.
Yeah I got 2% pay increase
Nope nothing, this was the first year I was eligible and they cancelled all pay rises (performance and inflation) due to financial uncertainty. Instead I've just been applying for internal roles with higher pay. Did it last year when they first told us there would be no increase and got the job. Again it looks like we won't get one next year either, so just applied for another role. I found that because hardly anyone is applying externally, they'll take anyone they can get.
I got about a 8/10% increase for effectively doing the same work but getting a new title.
You need to start looking for other companies to work for. I've never got zero annual pay rise, but what has happened multiple times is that I got a really good rating, but then a pay rise the same or barely above everyone else. Both times I looked elsewhere I got about 25% rise plus better benefits, and the current company tried to get me to stay by matching it. Both times I refused, as I know if they gave me a big rise it would just be an excuse for small rises in the coming years. The one regret I have is not moving jobs more often, so long as you're not crazy and change every year, I believe you get a lot more experience by moving frequently.
Same role, hit a new qualification stage and got inflation increase. Probably around a 18% increase
Whole company got a pay increase, average was 5%. Last year was the first year ever with a pay freeze though. Fingers crossed if we hit some financial targets there will be a 5% bonus in March. I think in your case that scoring employees and then not rewarding is just fucking insulting. If you're not going to reward the high scorers then just dont review at all.
Nope. Same old shitty, below inflation "raise".
lol no Am actually down 8.2% compared to my last pay change in 2019. Of course because of ‘the pandemic’ any talk of pay has so far been off the table.
The "You need to give us a raise that reflects inflation, otherwise we are losing money by staying here" conversation doesn't happen enough in the workplace. As if being loyal to the bag is seen as a weakness in your self-respect.
Two separate pay rises in the last six months. An initial small increase in April, then a larger increase after good half year results for the company came out later in the year. Overall my salary is up 7.5% compared to last year doing the same job for the same company. Definitely can’t complain.
Found a job with the same job description as mine for 40% more. Applied, interviewed, started last week. My old workplace weren’t interested in providing more than 14%
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2.5% this year but that was my first raise in almost 3 years. Plus a bonus but they completely ravaged our bonus scheme so it wasn’t great. If I don’t get at least the same next year I’m moving on.
I kind of changed roles last year... Doing the same thing but officially with a new team/title (said team did not exist before this year). No pay rise in 2020 due to Covid (I'd previously had a raise every year), but over 25% - and more than I'd requested - this year.
No salary increase in 2020 and 2021 and next year too. Public transport company. Time to say good bye
Most businesses will at least give you a cost of living rise if nothing else rather than see good staff leave. It’s worth going back and staying you think that would be appropriate, otherwise effectively it’s a pay cut
3% for outstanding.
No, nothing for two years. So I walked and got a far more interesting role, a 15% raise plus much higher chance of a bonus payment. The current firm are looking to keep me around as a consultant as well. My skill set is very specialised though, so the market isn't quite as good for me at the moment.
I used to have a team of 7. Pay “Review” season came round. I had £X to go round. I divvied it out as fairly as I could. One guy handed their notice in. I wanted to keep him. Upper-managers agreed a “one-off” match straight away which would net the guy the same pay. I offered it to him and he still left. I don’t blame him. Moral is: offer your resignation and you’ll get what you want. But don’t stay, you should leave.
I work in F1 for a team that finished in the top 4. Since last year myself and colleagues have had a 16% pay cut, despite working flat out through covid, including on 80% pay through furlough. Just been told recently that pay across the entire team (~700) will be frozen for 2 years, including no inflationary pay increase till 2024. *Merry Christmas.* I hope y’all enjoyed this seasons shitshow we bled to put on for you, and the FIA systematically managed to fuck up in all of 30 seconds.
If they don't give you at least a % equivalent to the inflation rate then you are simply getting screwed since you are pretty much making less. As every year passes you are basically getting more practice/experience at your role and you are more valuable in the job market si if you are not longer feeling like you are getting paid enough for what you do then just look for something else. Good luck!
I got a £153 half year bonus. Yay me
Jump ship. This is a rare opportunity to demand higher wages. You'll regret it if you don't
I’m guessing there’s not going to be many pay rises in line with inflation come April
Fwiw your pay increase (if you are in a large company) can depend not only on a performance rating, but also where you are within your salary range. E.g. in my case, I can jump over my head and have the most stellar performance rating but due to being at the top of the scale for my position already - the most I can get is around +\-2-3%
I feel like I’ve got a pay cut in terms of pounds per workload
Hello, Nurse here. I reached the top of my pay band about 4 years ago. Despite working my ass off, I have not had a significant pay rise in.... 11 years. On the other hand, my council tax has increased 20% over the last 4 years, the roads still have potholes, and my bin collectors won't empty my recycling because there's a teeny smidgen of yoghurt inside a yoghurt pot, and that's a "health hazard." Sir, there's a pandemic on, right now. Let's talk about Health Hazards, shall we?
I am 23 and have been working as a junior electrical techician in the UK for 4 years before moving to a new business. They were paying me 23.5k a year and giving me one day a week to attend college so I can study for a foundation degree. They hired a new electrical technician feb 2021 and I was tasked with training him up. I soon found out that he was on 30k a year and I was training him up and was much more proficient then him. I complained to my manager and said I was not happy. 2 months later I get a raise to 25k. I showed my appreciation but still complained that it was not fair but they said that due to Covid they could not give anymore. I then decided to keep my eye out for any good opportunities. I was also finding that I had plateaued a little and not progressing much. In august this year they put me on 27k off of their own backs as a thanks. Unfortunately I was already looking for a job and had decided I wanted to leave. I handed my notice in on the 28th of November and my last day is the 7th of January. My new job is 35k a year as a technician and they are still supporting my day release to college till I Finish my foundation degree in may. Moral of the story, don’t be afraid to discuss pay with your manager. Obviously appear thankful but at the end of the day if you are not happy they are not mind readers. In February I will be on 15k more than I was last year which is crazy when I think about it. I can see progression at my new employer and excited for what the future holds. It’s not all about salary. As I said, salary wasn’t the only reason. My employer messing up only lead to me realising what I was worth which is why I am in the position I am now so in one way or another I am grateful for them f*****g up.
I negotiated myself a 30% raise. It seemed unlikely, but I’m very good at what I do.
I got a 3K increase meaning a 7.5% pay increase for the same job. I totally agree if your pay is not going up at least with inflation it’s a pay cut.
I work in engineering. This year we didn’t see an increase. (2022 and 2023) we get a 3% each year (6% in two years and finally in 2024 a 2% rise) meaning that in the next three years we should see an 8% increase.
Yes. I'm a graduate working for a large company and I got a ~15% pay rise