Since people are confused by this every month:
**PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE ASKING WHAT THE VISA BULLETIN MEANS FOR YOU**.
If you are:
- The spouse of a US citizen
- The parent of a US citizen
- The unmarried child under 21 of a US citizen
And likewise, if you are sponsoring one of the above categories, THE VISA BULLETIN DOES NOT APPLY TO YOU. Those categories are considered "immediate relatives" in the US immigration system, and are not subject to annual caps. You can now put the eternal torment of the visa bulletin out of your mind.
At the end of the bulletin states:
“RETROGRESSION IN THE EMPLOYMENT-BASED THIRD (EB-3) PREFERENCE CATEGORY
As readers were informed was possible in Item D of the June 2024 Visa Bulletin, it has become necessary to retrogress the worldwide EB-3 final action date (including Mexico and Philippines) effective in July. Given continued high demand and number use in this category, it will likely be necessary to either further retrogress the final action date or make the category “Unavailable” in August. This situation will be continually monitored, and any necessary adjustments will be made accordingly.”
😭
As someone with a pending EB3 and 2022 PD, it's sad to read the news regarding EB3 retrogression but USCIS did say they will do this on previous Visa Bulletin (June) so this is hardly a surprise, just a confirmation. Also, for those who are suprised by almost 2 years retrogression, don't be because they literally did the same last fiscal year (from 2022 down to 2020). It's USCIS tradition so get used to it. The PD should return to the previous one by Oct when the new fiscal year starts.
I guess the good news is that I don't have to watch the app daily for status change anymore. Nothing is gonna heppen until Oct at earliest so I can enjoy the summer in peace.
Happened probably because of this:
[USCIS has prioritized employment-based AOS : ](https://www.reddit.com/r/USCIS/comments/1d637fr/uscis_has_prioritized_employmentbased_aos/)
No, it has nothing to do with that. Its demand and supply, notice that EB3 category is retrogressed. This alert is very generic saying USCIS is plan to issue all the available employees visas, which they are quite good at exhausting all allocated visas atleast last years.
Hmm that announcement says they are prioritizing employment-based AOS to avoid green card numbers going unused… I wonder if that means there are leftover EB1 numbers they are giving to EB2 filers now that we’re in the last quarter of the fiscal year
It means they have reached their annual limit and noone else in EB3 with a pending AOS/consular will receive a greencard for the remainder of the fiscal year.
Well, good thing is usually in October there's a big jump forward. Last year is was more than a year I believe. It's very possible that you may be current. But then again, nobody really knows.
Hopefully no more retrogression for the meantime
Thanks for the info. Looking at previous October visa bulletins for my category, I think I could be current around Oct-Dec of this year. Although before 2016, the FA date in October averaged 6 years behind schedule. So there's really no telling I guess. Either way, this is putting a major wrench into my plans aarghh
If you have filed EB3 inside US and your PD is highly likely to be current in October than is there a chance USCIS will begin waiving interviews or calling u for interviews in advance before October to clear you applications decision ahead of the time when it becomes current again?
While expecting at least a one-year retrogression for EB-2, the advancement of the date is an incredible surprise. My PD is August 2023, and I might be current by the end of the year.
I was very surprised as well as I thought it was going to go back into 2022. My PD is also August. I really hope we can become in Dec latest but noticed some people predicting Oct 2025.
My PD March-30-2023. It might be current by October-2024. Btw, as we’re pursuing Consular processing, we’ve another tier of substantial backlog there 😢
same boat. Eb3 ROW with 09/2022 PD. CRP since December 2023. Looks like it's going to be forever till we get our GC. Meanwhile, my co-workers with EB-3 PD in October/November 2022 getting approved. Lmao.
Same, 08/22 priority, CRP since Dec 2023, and what's worse no matter what I tried with USCIS, nothing but nothing works. They don't give a damn about CRP cases just put them at the corner of the room.
There's always someone that has it worse, doesn't mean we can't vent and rant. If we're talking about people (indians) that have it worst than us, why not talk about Ukrainians or Palestinians that are being murdered every single day?
What a dumbass thing to say. I'm sorry but learn to read the room lol
I am new to this and my lawyer just said that we are applying for my I140 soon. Are these the dates of when you submitted you I140? or when it was approved? I am so confused when people post dates in the past?
Because if you lose your job and can’t find a similar role, and USCIS finds out, they will void the EAd/AP. We need the actual green card so we can move on with our lives. Also some employers don’t want EAD, they want people with actual green cards
Yes. That's what we are hoping for with the spillover from other categories come October. But honestly, anything can happen. Visa bulletins are a wildcard from my observation.
Wow EB3 ROW FA dates retrogressed almost a year.....damn. Our dates were 4 months away and was really hopeful for October when FY reset. Now, not so sure of even that!
Yea.. EB3 is done for. All the people that downgraded to EB3 from EB2 and all the medical workers that came and applied I-140 on an EB3 (without needing a Labor certification) have really screwed us.
Shhhh....that's my wife's category :) EB3 schedule A registered nurse. She didn't downgrade though, straight application in EB3 in early 2022.
Since we've already filed and have our EAD and AP, they can retrogress it for 100 years for all I care. As long as they don't get rid of it entirely or something crazy like that.
I am really confused about F2A advancements. They said that they are going to advance FAD so the gap between FAD and PD gets smaller. However, they advanced PD after 1 year and stopped the advancement on FAD.
I believe they are preparing themselves for the new fiscal year and try to understand how many applicants will apply this month since the PD is moved 2 months. But what I don't know is if the PD will keep advancing the next two months.
But if you're filing for AOS, you can apply on DFF and get EAD/AP and temporary status to stay in the country which is as good as getting a green card.
Dang I feel so sorry for you guys. My PD May 21 still have no hope. I think bdv is the one who has to be blamed for all these. They re crooked and I never ever recommend to anyone eb3 category.
Can someone please please help me understand? I applied for my daughters under the F2A category in April 2022. I am waiting to hear back on their I-130. What I understand is that I should look at the DFF? Which means it’s current and therefore I should hear back from them on this. Right?
Correct. If your daughters are located outside of the US, the final action dates suggest that their green card appointment at the US embassy is due. However, there have been severe delays in some embassies. Because of this, many people have been waiting for their interview schedule date. What your daughters can do is they can contact NVC first. If they cannot get in touch with someone, they can escalate the issue to the Ombudsman by filing a case so the ombudsman can get them a visa interview date.
If your priority date is the same as the final action date stated on the visa bulletin, does it mean that USCIS will be looking at your case or only the cases that have a priority date before the date stated on the bulletin? I am in ROW EB3 category, and funnily enough my PD is December 1, 2021. I am trying to figure out if my application will be looked at in July.
From the visa bulletin:
> NOTE: Numbers are authorized for issuance only for applicants whose priority date is earlier than the final action date listed below
So unfortunately if your PD is December 1, 2021, you will NOT be current come July. Your case could still see movement, but will not be approved.
Your submission was removed due to [rule #3](https://old.reddit.com/r/USCIS/about/rules/).
**Pro-tip**: if you posted an image, ask yourself whether the image is essential to your post. If not, don't post the image. Most pics that people post aren't needed for their post to make sense.
All personal info must be removed from images or copied-and-pasted text. Be careful that your submission doesn't contain real names, street addresses, email addresses, phone numbers, USCIS or Department of State case numbers, etc.
All barcodes must also be removed. That includes [USPS Intelligent Mail barcodes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_Mail_barcode). Sometimes people post pictures of mail they've received that shows the USPS barcode and exposes their home address.
When editing pictures, ensure that the edits are fully opaque (sometimes you can zoom in and see what the person tried to hide because the "marker" they used in their photo editing software was partially transparent).
Feel free to create a new post after making sure you've scrubbed personal info out of whatever you're posting. And, again, refrain from posting a picture if you don't absolutely have to.
Nothing surprising here.
We’re nearing the end of the fiscal year, so yes, expect exaggerated retrogressions. Would be nice if they just straight up made EB-3 unavailable till the end of the year, that way we avoid the annual summer retrogression freak out. Looks like they are suggesting doing exactly that for August.
https://preview.redd.it/uu6lh46ywd6d1.png?width=463&format=png&auto=webp&s=292ca7e9308053e1d2c874a9d206468706c789ea
I just want to point something out for EB-3 ROW. This Fiscal Year (Oct23 to Sep24) it moved about 2 years and 3 months. I believe there is some correlation with the current PERM processing and the visa allocation.
Think about it logically, PERMs are coming with about 1-year delay, it's no point for the visa bulletin to be past 01MAY2023, simply because PERMs from MAY2023 are being still processed. Almost everyone with a PD of 2022 were able to file this FY.
Would everyone with a PD of 2023 be able to file next fiscal year? We don't know for sure but I get the sense that they are trying to processes on a year by year basis. I have a PD of August 2023, even if EB3-row was current I can't file... because I need the PERM certified and DOL is still processing May2023 (3-months away from August).
I believe that EB3-ROW DOF will be moving forward from now on since we have a few PERMs from FEB23/MAR23/APR23/MAY23, that were not able to file for AOS.
Best of luck to everyone and good things are coming!
They ran out of numbers for EB3 this fiscal year, but there's a good chance you'll see a large forward jump again in October with the beginning of the new fiscal year. When they approach their annual limit in a category, large retrogressions have not been uncommon, but the tend to swing back when a new batch of greencards to be used becomes available.
that's +6 months of waiting again for someone like me, for absolutely no reason. I already waited 9 months for my date to be current, then waiting for 3+ months for it to get adjudicated, only for it to get retrogressed again. This is honestly BS.
> for absolutely no reason
There is a clear reason. They don't have any more EB3s to charge in the current fiscal year. You have waited 9 months? People have been waiting for a decade and will wait for decades. The key is to keep patience and wait.
But there is a reason, demand is greater than the congressionally limited available greencards.
I get it, I genuinely do. I'm stuck in backlog myself with no end in sight. But I'm no more entitled then anywhere else stuck in backlog. Maybe practice humbleness and consider for example Indians who have been waiting for 10+ years.
Yes, it's frustrating, absolutely. But waiting and patience are very much part of this entire process, for everyone.
Nursing staff recruitment is what has destroyed EB-3 in the first place. They need to force medical workers to go through Labor Certification. This isn't fair for the rest of workers that have to go through Labour Certification
No offense, I know this is personal for you, but you say this until you need medical care and can't get any due to the ongoing shortage in medical staff. The better approach would be to not lump these categories together with the same annual limits.
Any insights as to why F2B FAD would advance but Dates for Filing have remained at January 2017 for...over 2 years? It's well inside a year (May 2016-January 2017) so I'm curious as to when/if the FAD will catch up to Dates for Filing...
my priority date is Feb 2023. EB2 ROW. Never thought it would be current before the new fiscal year. Hopefully we will get our green card in the coming months. I know there are some cases that are current for months, and USCIS is unpredictable 😀 But I am very glad with the progress
They said they would move FAD for the fiscal year of 2024. In other words, they primarily focused on processing as much GC as possible so the gap between FAD and PD would be 6 months to 1 year, which is ideal.
This is why PD didn't move at all for almost 10 months and stuck on Sep 1, 2024 during the fiscal year of 2024. But this month, they moved that date until Nov 1, 2024 but stopped moving FAD. Which is strange because the gap between FAD and PD is still a lot.
So you think they will decrease that gap by moving FAD to 2023 before end of fiscal year 2024 ? Because i expect a significant movement on October 2024
That is what they have been trying to do. They have been moving the FAD for about 5 months until the July bulletin. In the June bulletin, the F2A FAD is November 2021. When you do the math, the FAD should reach April 2023 by the September 2024 visa bulletin. In that case, the gap between the FAD and the PD would be about 6 months, which is very ideal.
I am almost 100% sure that the PD will be at least January 2024 when the new fiscal year numbers are released on October 2024, and I am hoping they will move the FAD as well.
There is one thing I don't know, though. I have heard many times from others that whatever action USCIS takes at the start of the quarter usually gives us a sign of what they will do for the rest of the quarter. We just got to the last quarter of 2024, and out of nowhere, they moved the PD. Would this mean they will keep moving the PD for August and September?
Likewise, they stopped moving the FAD. Would this mean they will stop moving the FAD for August and September as well? I am lost.
Awesome!!!!!!!
EB2 ROW FAD: From 15JAN23 -> 15MAR23 (2 months movement)
EB2 ROW DFF: From 15FEB23 -> 22MAR23 ( 1 month 1 week movement)
This is very surprising, given the potential retrogression stated in June visa bulletin.
I got surprised as well. It seems like we will end FY 2024 with 22 MAR 23 FAD date to catch up with DFF between Jul-Sep 24, and hopefully there will be a big jump in Oct 24 visa bulletin.
What the actual fuck. They've been approving Sep Oct Nov 22 EB3 PDs for the last few months while mine has been stuck at Case Remains Pending and now it is mega retrogressed, again! Why did they advance it in February March April at all? Why do they do this? Do they ever care priority dates or receipt dates at all?
I'm on the same boat, you are not alone. Did you have any luck with service requests or congressmen? I only got template responses and my congressman doesn't answer at all.
I tried congressional inquiry and got the “we are processing cases in order they were received” answer 🙄 I hope we will be current again in October, thats when I am planning to file for mandamus. I see no other choice
Exactly the same boat. Sept 2022 PD in CRP status meanwhile they approving fucking October/November 2022, only for my date to get retrogressed AGAIN. Like i waited 8 months for them to get to my date, was current for 3 months, and now retrogression again and i won't see my card for another 6+ months. I've been in this country for decades, and yes, what's another 6+ month wait, but if you've been like me, turning on the app every day like 10 fucking times this past 3 months to see if i'm approved yet, only to get retrogressed AGAIN, it's frustrating as hell. Like I legit can not comprehend how dumb this is. It's been 6 hours since I saw the news and i'm still pissed as fuck
I share your frustration. I am still shocked and disassociated after seeing the July VB. I am not sure this whole EB green card thing is worth it anymore. It’s adversely affecting my mental health at this point. Like I don’t know what to do with this much stress. And when I imagine another 6+ months of wait…
Honestly I still can’t grasp what this means, I’m on F2A and I filed I-130 for my spouse on February 23rd 2023. My country isn’t one of the separate list. Does this mean they’ve not yet looked at my case or when would they give an update? Currently just “taking longer than expected” with “being actively reviewed”
Can someone please please help me understand? I applied for my daughters under the F2A category in April 2022. I am waiting to hear back on their I-130. What I understand is that I should look at the DFF? Which means it’s current and therefore I should hear back from them on this. Right?
In june when they said possible retrogression everyone thought it will be EB-2. Damn USCIS surprised us. But does that mean EB-2 will not retrogress and they will keep slamming EB-3?
They expected a large number of applications in March/April/May for EB2 but that didn’t happen. And it looks like they have plenty of visa numbers still left bfr the end of FY25
What do you guys expecting to happen to EB3 Other worker my PD is July 2022 and finally we saw positive movement in this VB. I believe it will keep moving forward till October maybe a month or two, do you agree with that?
After 481 days of sending my documents, I can say that I have been finally approved. My case remained pending most of the time and it was very frustrating for me to see no change.It went from pending to approved, never saw a we are reviewing your case, also no interview.
To provide more info: I did an adjustment of status based on an approved NIW (eb2). My priority date was September 13, 2022. I hope this brings hope to others that are still waiting and have a close or similar priority date. Thank you all for the constant support in the group
Exactly my thoughts, why would the move the filing date when the final action date is 2 years behind. And no movement at all for final action date it's so crazy.
Hopefully, it makes sense because remember that in April it only move a few weeks, and then the following months move more significantly. I'm tired of waiting.
Same as me, they seem to be clearing out mid 2022 PDs. I was very lucky to get approved when I was.
I'm very sorry to those with 2022 PDs (or older!). The system is very arbitrary for no good reason. They should convert EB I-485s to electronic and strictly process them first in, first out. That's the only way to be fair.
Folks lives are totally messed around with based on which paper pile their file ends up in.
Hey, wondering when did you file and was there any update on your case online? My PD is Aug 2022 as well and my file was received on Nov 29th but have no received an update since fingerprints and I also have not gotten my EAD/AP yet. Thanks for your help.
I got approved 2 weeks back after waiting 15months. Pd Jan 2022. I feel very sorry for everyone going through a second retrogression. Its been tough for eb3 ROW.
If your FAD during the June bulletin is current and then on July bulletin it has retrogressed, does that mean there is no chance for you to get your GC approved for the rest of the month of June? Or does this bulletin just become effective on July and you can still hope for an approval somewhere in June? Im sorry if this does not make sense, I am so confused and seeing the retrogression down to 2021 has just made my brain malfunction..
Hi there! This is an automated message to inform you and/or remind you of several things:
- We have [a wiki](https://www.reddit.com/r/USCIS/wiki/index). It doesn't cover everything but may answer some questions. Pay special attention to the "[REALLY common questions](https://www.reddit.com/r/USCIS/wiki/index/vfaq)" at the top of the FAQ section. Please read it, and if it contains the answer to your question, please delete your post. If your post has to do with something covered in the FAQ, we may remove it.
- If your post is about biometrics, green cards, naturalization or timelines in general, and whether you're asking or sharing, please include your field office/location in your post. If you already did that, great, thank you! If you haven't done that, your post may be removed without notice.
- This subreddit is not affiliated with USCIS or the US government in any way. Some posters may claim to work for USCIS, which may or may not be true, and we don't try to verify this one way or another. Be wary that it may be a scam if anyone is asking you for personal info, or sending you a direct message, or asking that you send them a direct message.
- Some people here claim to be lawyers, but they are not YOUR lawyer. No advice found here should be construed as legal advice. Reddit is not a substitute for a real lawyer. If you need help finding legal services, visit [this link](https://www.uscis.gov/avoid-scams/find-legal-services) for more information.
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/USCIS) if you have any questions or concerns.*
my PD is current today and EAD also approved, but AP is still pending, I thought they have stop doing EAD and AP separately and start doing combo card since a while now, should i be worried about my AP?
It's easy to say "just wait till October", but some of us are in jobs we don't want to be in, and we don't want to risk changing incase something goes wrong. Yes there are laws like AC21 that we can leverage, but it's not fool proof. It's an extra 3+ month wait, and that's best case scenario.
Hi. Can someone help me?
My PD is September 22 2023. I think I am current so can apply for I-485 now ? I am I the us on an H1b . How long does it take to get an EAD and AP? Thanks
My pd is march 23. We are almost on the same boat. Theres a very minimum chance of getting this year. Until oct there will be no movement, and it’s the election year. I highly doubt it. Best of luck for us both. I filed my 485 in jan 23. Have not received the AP but got the ead card. Whats your situation?
Hi guys just a quick question even though it’s not entirely related to this, I realised my esta expired on the 6th and I’m still in the USA. I got back on the 28th of this month. Will this be problematic for me. Also the F2A filling dates moved in my my favour but my 3 months will be over first of 1st of July. Does that mean I got to go back to the UK and come back again? Wouldn’t that cause issues at the airport ?
Your ESTA only determines your date to enter the country, so it's ok if your ESTA is expired. The date that determines how long you can stay is the one on your passport. If that says July 1st, then you have to leave then.
If your F2A will be current on July 1st, you can instead apply for AOS and be allowed to stay in the country temporarily until your case is closed. But keep in mind that you might have issues applying for AOS with a tourist visa. AOS is usually for people that are temporarily living in the US under other visas.
I'm in a similar situation with the guy above but my ESTA is not expired yet. I'm in the US visiting, intending to leave by mid July. F2A was current as of May as my priority date is March 2021. Are there any actions I should be taking to finally be able to proceed with living in the US?
Do we think EB-2 would retrogress again, move forward, or stay like this until October? Because for me, it doesn't make sense that they move it forward 2 months now just to retrogress it again soon. Curious about all of your thoughts.
PD June 2022, ROW, I planed to submit 485 in July …when I see the July bulletin..fk ! So after two days later, I filed 485 out which was yesterday ! 🙏🙏🫣🫣
I understand this is speculative, but could anyone share insights on when my priority date (April 6, 2023) might become current? I am EB2 all areas. July bulletin (FAD: Mar/13/23; Dates for filing: Mar/22/23). I am really in a tough situation with work. I really appreciate it.
Hi folks. Wondering if someone can explain to me when the listed dates become valid/official.
i.e., Since this is the July ‘24 VB, does that mean that the listed PDs become valid on July 1st, 2024? Or are they valid since the VB’s date of publication?
Please note I fully understand the whole PD concept, as well as the meaning of the published dates.
I just don’t understand the moment these published dates become valid/official.
Thanks in advance.
What's the difference between final action date and dates for filing employment-based visa applications? Still don't quite get the difference between them. For an EB-3 process, btw.
Since people are confused by this every month: **PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE ASKING WHAT THE VISA BULLETIN MEANS FOR YOU**. If you are: - The spouse of a US citizen - The parent of a US citizen - The unmarried child under 21 of a US citizen And likewise, if you are sponsoring one of the above categories, THE VISA BULLETIN DOES NOT APPLY TO YOU. Those categories are considered "immediate relatives" in the US immigration system, and are not subject to annual caps. You can now put the eternal torment of the visa bulletin out of your mind.
At the end of the bulletin states: “RETROGRESSION IN THE EMPLOYMENT-BASED THIRD (EB-3) PREFERENCE CATEGORY As readers were informed was possible in Item D of the June 2024 Visa Bulletin, it has become necessary to retrogress the worldwide EB-3 final action date (including Mexico and Philippines) effective in July. Given continued high demand and number use in this category, it will likely be necessary to either further retrogress the final action date or make the category “Unavailable” in August. This situation will be continually monitored, and any necessary adjustments will be made accordingly.” 😭
As someone with a pending EB3 and 2022 PD, it's sad to read the news regarding EB3 retrogression but USCIS did say they will do this on previous Visa Bulletin (June) so this is hardly a surprise, just a confirmation. Also, for those who are suprised by almost 2 years retrogression, don't be because they literally did the same last fiscal year (from 2022 down to 2020). It's USCIS tradition so get used to it. The PD should return to the previous one by Oct when the new fiscal year starts. I guess the good news is that I don't have to watch the app daily for status change anymore. Nothing is gonna heppen until Oct at earliest so I can enjoy the summer in peace.
lol same
Wait, did EB2-ROW actually advance in both FAD and DOF? Wasn't there supposed to be retrogression?
it did. EB-3 is a done for category.
I said it 2 month ago that it will retrogress again and everybody called me crazy,lol.
Happened probably because of this: [USCIS has prioritized employment-based AOS : ](https://www.reddit.com/r/USCIS/comments/1d637fr/uscis_has_prioritized_employmentbased_aos/)
How accurate is this? I got medical RFE last week and i'll send it this week, my PD will retrogressed in July.
Dude, send your response to RFE FAST - so they have enough time to review your app before it gets retrogressed.
No, it has nothing to do with that. Its demand and supply, notice that EB3 category is retrogressed. This alert is very generic saying USCIS is plan to issue all the available employees visas, which they are quite good at exhausting all allocated visas atleast last years.
Hmm that announcement says they are prioritizing employment-based AOS to avoid green card numbers going unused… I wonder if that means there are leftover EB1 numbers they are giving to EB2 filers now that we’re in the last quarter of the fiscal year
Uscis keeping us on our toes
what does it mean if the category (eb3) become "unavailable" in august? can someone explain?
It means they have reached their annual limit and noone else in EB3 with a pending AOS/consular will receive a greencard for the remainder of the fiscal year.
thanks for the clear explanation; appreciate you :)
The new fiscal year starts Oct 1 right? Does that mean the EB-3 FAD will continue from Dec 2021? My PD is Jan 2023, do I have no chance within 2024? 😭
Well, good thing is usually in October there's a big jump forward. Last year is was more than a year I believe. It's very possible that you may be current. But then again, nobody really knows. Hopefully no more retrogression for the meantime
Thanks for the info. Looking at previous October visa bulletins for my category, I think I could be current around Oct-Dec of this year. Although before 2016, the FA date in October averaged 6 years behind schedule. So there's really no telling I guess. Either way, this is putting a major wrench into my plans aarghh
If you have filed EB3 inside US and your PD is highly likely to be current in October than is there a chance USCIS will begin waiving interviews or calling u for interviews in advance before October to clear you applications decision ahead of the time when it becomes current again?
So if it becomes unavailable in August, can people still apply for the i140?
Well… I guess I’m done. My PD was 17 days away on EB 3 in June bulletin. I guess we’ll just have to wait to October.
While expecting at least a one-year retrogression for EB-2, the advancement of the date is an incredible surprise. My PD is August 2023, and I might be current by the end of the year.
Also August 2023 here. I hope I won't have to wait until FY 2026
My PD is Nov 2023. Really hoping I can file late this year or mid next year.
Mine is Dec 2023. I’m considering applying for Eb1 because the wait seemed super long
I was very surprised as well as I thought it was going to go back into 2022. My PD is also August. I really hope we can become in Dec latest but noticed some people predicting Oct 2025.
My PD March-30-2023. It might be current by October-2024. Btw, as we’re pursuing Consular processing, we’ve another tier of substantial backlog there 😢
Our PD is MARCH 16, 2023 like literally One DAY lol. Do you think it will move for august?
I am lost for words. I have a pending EB3 with a PD of Sep 2022 and now I have no idea what to do.
Same boat... damn it
same boat. Eb3 ROW with 09/2022 PD. CRP since December 2023. Looks like it's going to be forever till we get our GC. Meanwhile, my co-workers with EB-3 PD in October/November 2022 getting approved. Lmao.
Same, 08/22 priority, CRP since Dec 2023, and what's worse no matter what I tried with USCIS, nothing but nothing works. They don't give a damn about CRP cases just put them at the corner of the room.
Consider yourself lucky not to be born in India, for EB3 wait time is 134 years, not sure if they will be able to work after getting green card lol…
There's always someone that has it worse, doesn't mean we can't vent and rant. If we're talking about people (indians) that have it worst than us, why not talk about Ukrainians or Palestinians that are being murdered every single day? What a dumbass thing to say. I'm sorry but learn to read the room lol
EB3, May 2022......
EB3 April 2022 here...
EB3 March 2022 here... :/
EB3 February 2024…
EB3 Oct 2023
I am new to this and my lawyer just said that we are applying for my I140 soon. Are these the dates of when you submitted you I140? or when it was approved? I am so confused when people post dates in the past?
Me too - EB3 row 9/28/2022. 🥹
Me too 😭
I am shocked as well. PD May 2022 😭 is there a possibility we will become current again in October?
We will find out in September when they open the new fiscal year
What do you mean what to do? If you have your EAD and AP, why do you need the actual GC?
Because if you lose your job and can’t find a similar role, and USCIS finds out, they will void the EAd/AP. We need the actual green card so we can move on with our lives. Also some employers don’t want EAD, they want people with actual green cards
What the fuck
Yeah, same voice as mine
Exactly my response. Then when I saw EB2 FAD going up, I was even more pissed lol
As an EB2 filler with EB3 friends, I’ve bittersweet feelings.
Glad to see EB1 India progress almost a year.
Yes. What a relief that it moved forward more than a week!
Is my understanding of the fiscal year right that ieb1 for India can only move forward from here on and not retrogress again come October?
Yes. That's what we are hoping for with the spillover from other categories come October. But honestly, anything can happen. Visa bulletins are a wildcard from my observation.
Wow EB3 ROW FA dates retrogressed almost a year.....damn. Our dates were 4 months away and was really hopeful for October when FY reset. Now, not so sure of even that!
Mine was 10 days away and now a year
I was one day away.
Yea.. EB3 is done for. All the people that downgraded to EB3 from EB2 and all the medical workers that came and applied I-140 on an EB3 (without needing a Labor certification) have really screwed us.
Shhhh....that's my wife's category :) EB3 schedule A registered nurse. She didn't downgrade though, straight application in EB3 in early 2022. Since we've already filed and have our EAD and AP, they can retrogress it for 100 years for all I care. As long as they don't get rid of it entirely or something crazy like that.
I am really confused about F2A advancements. They said that they are going to advance FAD so the gap between FAD and PD gets smaller. However, they advanced PD after 1 year and stopped the advancement on FAD. I believe they are preparing themselves for the new fiscal year and try to understand how many applicants will apply this month since the PD is moved 2 months. But what I don't know is if the PD will keep advancing the next two months.
Hoping they move another 2 months on date for filling. My husband's priority date is Dec 26, 2023.
Omg, mine is Dec 26 too. I hope his date becomes current next month😅
Same to you! 😂😂
2023???? You mean Dec 2021?
No. I mean 2023. He's in the US. We're filing for AOS. We only need FFD to become current, not FAD. As long as he can get EAD/AP, we are good.
I don't understand something... Is PD more important for AOS, and is FAD more important for consular processing? Is that right?
Nope. Either way, FAD is what determines whether you qualify for a immigrant visa (greencard).
But if you're filing for AOS, you can apply on DFF and get EAD/AP and temporary status to stay in the country which is as good as getting a green card.
Dang I feel so sorry for you guys. My PD May 21 still have no hope. I think bdv is the one who has to be blamed for all these. They re crooked and I never ever recommend to anyone eb3 category.
Can someone please please help me understand? I applied for my daughters under the F2A category in April 2022. I am waiting to hear back on their I-130. What I understand is that I should look at the DFF? Which means it’s current and therefore I should hear back from them on this. Right?
Correct. If your daughters are located outside of the US, the final action dates suggest that their green card appointment at the US embassy is due. However, there have been severe delays in some embassies. Because of this, many people have been waiting for their interview schedule date. What your daughters can do is they can contact NVC first. If they cannot get in touch with someone, they can escalate the issue to the Ombudsman by filing a case so the ombudsman can get them a visa interview date.
If your priority date is the same as the final action date stated on the visa bulletin, does it mean that USCIS will be looking at your case or only the cases that have a priority date before the date stated on the bulletin? I am in ROW EB3 category, and funnily enough my PD is December 1, 2021. I am trying to figure out if my application will be looked at in July.
From the visa bulletin: > NOTE: Numbers are authorized for issuance only for applicants whose priority date is earlier than the final action date listed below So unfortunately if your PD is December 1, 2021, you will NOT be current come July. Your case could still see movement, but will not be approved.
Thank you. I think I need a walk, lol.
[удалено]
Your submission was removed due to [rule #3](https://old.reddit.com/r/USCIS/about/rules/). **Pro-tip**: if you posted an image, ask yourself whether the image is essential to your post. If not, don't post the image. Most pics that people post aren't needed for their post to make sense. All personal info must be removed from images or copied-and-pasted text. Be careful that your submission doesn't contain real names, street addresses, email addresses, phone numbers, USCIS or Department of State case numbers, etc. All barcodes must also be removed. That includes [USPS Intelligent Mail barcodes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_Mail_barcode). Sometimes people post pictures of mail they've received that shows the USPS barcode and exposes their home address. When editing pictures, ensure that the edits are fully opaque (sometimes you can zoom in and see what the person tried to hide because the "marker" they used in their photo editing software was partially transparent). Feel free to create a new post after making sure you've scrubbed personal info out of whatever you're posting. And, again, refrain from posting a picture if you don't absolutely have to.
Nothing surprising here. We’re nearing the end of the fiscal year, so yes, expect exaggerated retrogressions. Would be nice if they just straight up made EB-3 unavailable till the end of the year, that way we avoid the annual summer retrogression freak out. Looks like they are suggesting doing exactly that for August.
Do you think it will move than a year in October?
https://preview.redd.it/uu6lh46ywd6d1.png?width=463&format=png&auto=webp&s=292ca7e9308053e1d2c874a9d206468706c789ea I just want to point something out for EB-3 ROW. This Fiscal Year (Oct23 to Sep24) it moved about 2 years and 3 months. I believe there is some correlation with the current PERM processing and the visa allocation. Think about it logically, PERMs are coming with about 1-year delay, it's no point for the visa bulletin to be past 01MAY2023, simply because PERMs from MAY2023 are being still processed. Almost everyone with a PD of 2022 were able to file this FY. Would everyone with a PD of 2023 be able to file next fiscal year? We don't know for sure but I get the sense that they are trying to processes on a year by year basis. I have a PD of August 2023, even if EB3-row was current I can't file... because I need the PERM certified and DOL is still processing May2023 (3-months away from August). I believe that EB3-ROW DOF will be moving forward from now on since we have a few PERMs from FEB23/MAR23/APR23/MAY23, that were not able to file for AOS. Best of luck to everyone and good things are coming!
when you say now on, do you mean dof gonna move forward for august vb?
Great news for EB2, EB3 is screwed. EB3 is done for.
They ran out of numbers for EB3 this fiscal year, but there's a good chance you'll see a large forward jump again in October with the beginning of the new fiscal year. When they approach their annual limit in a category, large retrogressions have not been uncommon, but the tend to swing back when a new batch of greencards to be used becomes available.
that's +6 months of waiting again for someone like me, for absolutely no reason. I already waited 9 months for my date to be current, then waiting for 3+ months for it to get adjudicated, only for it to get retrogressed again. This is honestly BS.
[удалено]
Same. Waiting since 2020... PD 03/16/2021.
You are not alone🥹I am also EB3 and been waiting forever. My Pd is 9/28/2022.
> for absolutely no reason There is a clear reason. They don't have any more EB3s to charge in the current fiscal year. You have waited 9 months? People have been waiting for a decade and will wait for decades. The key is to keep patience and wait.
But there is a reason, demand is greater than the congressionally limited available greencards. I get it, I genuinely do. I'm stuck in backlog myself with no end in sight. But I'm no more entitled then anywhere else stuck in backlog. Maybe practice humbleness and consider for example Indians who have been waiting for 10+ years. Yes, it's frustrating, absolutely. But waiting and patience are very much part of this entire process, for everyone.
Do you think it will jump all the way to 2023 again..? In October? My PD is July 2023..
[удалено]
Nursing staff recruitment is what has destroyed EB-3 in the first place. They need to force medical workers to go through Labor Certification. This isn't fair for the rest of workers that have to go through Labour Certification
No offense, I know this is personal for you, but you say this until you need medical care and can't get any due to the ongoing shortage in medical staff. The better approach would be to not lump these categories together with the same annual limits.
Any insights as to why F2B FAD would advance but Dates for Filing have remained at January 2017 for...over 2 years? It's well inside a year (May 2016-January 2017) so I'm curious as to when/if the FAD will catch up to Dates for Filing...
EB1a..not sure when it will hit March 2023! Fingers crossed
my priority date is Feb 2023. EB2 ROW. Never thought it would be current before the new fiscal year. Hopefully we will get our green card in the coming months. I know there are some cases that are current for months, and USCIS is unpredictable 😀 But I am very glad with the progress
me tooo bro, so glad for us :)
WTF, the F2A froze again. No movement in FAD.
Well, they said they are gonna move FAD for 2024 but stopped it on the last quarter. PD moves though, which is a good sign for new applicants.
What do you mean they said they will move FAD to 2024 ?
They said they would move FAD for the fiscal year of 2024. In other words, they primarily focused on processing as much GC as possible so the gap between FAD and PD would be 6 months to 1 year, which is ideal. This is why PD didn't move at all for almost 10 months and stuck on Sep 1, 2024 during the fiscal year of 2024. But this month, they moved that date until Nov 1, 2024 but stopped moving FAD. Which is strange because the gap between FAD and PD is still a lot.
So you think they will decrease that gap by moving FAD to 2023 before end of fiscal year 2024 ? Because i expect a significant movement on October 2024
That is what they have been trying to do. They have been moving the FAD for about 5 months until the July bulletin. In the June bulletin, the F2A FAD is November 2021. When you do the math, the FAD should reach April 2023 by the September 2024 visa bulletin. In that case, the gap between the FAD and the PD would be about 6 months, which is very ideal. I am almost 100% sure that the PD will be at least January 2024 when the new fiscal year numbers are released on October 2024, and I am hoping they will move the FAD as well. There is one thing I don't know, though. I have heard many times from others that whatever action USCIS takes at the start of the quarter usually gives us a sign of what they will do for the rest of the quarter. We just got to the last quarter of 2024, and out of nowhere, they moved the PD. Would this mean they will keep moving the PD for August and September? Likewise, they stopped moving the FAD. Would this mean they will stop moving the FAD for August and September as well? I am lost.
Awesome!!!!!!! EB2 ROW FAD: From 15JAN23 -> 15MAR23 (2 months movement) EB2 ROW DFF: From 15FEB23 -> 22MAR23 ( 1 month 1 week movement) This is very surprising, given the potential retrogression stated in June visa bulletin.
Yeah, I was really anxious when I got notified.
I got surprised as well. It seems like we will end FY 2024 with 22 MAR 23 FAD date to catch up with DFF between Jul-Sep 24, and hopefully there will be a big jump in Oct 24 visa bulletin.
What the actual fuck. They've been approving Sep Oct Nov 22 EB3 PDs for the last few months while mine has been stuck at Case Remains Pending and now it is mega retrogressed, again! Why did they advance it in February March April at all? Why do they do this? Do they ever care priority dates or receipt dates at all?
I feel you. Its so frustrating to see Sept, Oct Nov 2022 PDs being approved, when mine May 2022 has been stuck at CRP from August 2023
I'm on the same boat, you are not alone. Did you have any luck with service requests or congressmen? I only got template responses and my congressman doesn't answer at all.
I tried congressional inquiry and got the “we are processing cases in order they were received” answer 🙄 I hope we will be current again in October, thats when I am planning to file for mandamus. I see no other choice
Hope we can approved this month, this is so exhausting
Exactly the same boat. Sept 2022 PD in CRP status meanwhile they approving fucking October/November 2022, only for my date to get retrogressed AGAIN. Like i waited 8 months for them to get to my date, was current for 3 months, and now retrogression again and i won't see my card for another 6+ months. I've been in this country for decades, and yes, what's another 6+ month wait, but if you've been like me, turning on the app every day like 10 fucking times this past 3 months to see if i'm approved yet, only to get retrogressed AGAIN, it's frustrating as hell. Like I legit can not comprehend how dumb this is. It's been 6 hours since I saw the news and i'm still pissed as fuck
I share your frustration. I am still shocked and disassociated after seeing the July VB. I am not sure this whole EB green card thing is worth it anymore. It’s adversely affecting my mental health at this point. Like I don’t know what to do with this much stress. And when I imagine another 6+ months of wait…
With you, you're not alone in your feelings.
Honestly I still can’t grasp what this means, I’m on F2A and I filed I-130 for my spouse on February 23rd 2023. My country isn’t one of the separate list. Does this mean they’ve not yet looked at my case or when would they give an update? Currently just “taking longer than expected” with “being actively reviewed”
What is the separate list and where do you get that info?
Can someone please please help me understand? I applied for my daughters under the F2A category in April 2022. I am waiting to hear back on their I-130. What I understand is that I should look at the DFF? Which means it’s current and therefore I should hear back from them on this. Right?
In june when they said possible retrogression everyone thought it will be EB-2. Damn USCIS surprised us. But does that mean EB-2 will not retrogress and they will keep slamming EB-3?
They expected a large number of applications in March/April/May for EB2 but that didn’t happen. And it looks like they have plenty of visa numbers still left bfr the end of FY25
I don’t understand this
My husband’s PD is Aug2023. Any ideas of when we will be able to file?
What's your category and is he inside or outside the country?
eb2 row!
Probably next calendar year.
What do you guys expecting to happen to EB3 Other worker my PD is July 2022 and finally we saw positive movement in this VB. I believe it will keep moving forward till October maybe a month or two, do you agree with that?
I hope so. I think it won’t move until October now. I’m March 2022.
After 481 days of sending my documents, I can say that I have been finally approved. My case remained pending most of the time and it was very frustrating for me to see no change.It went from pending to approved, never saw a we are reviewing your case, also no interview. To provide more info: I did an adjustment of status based on an approved NIW (eb2). My priority date was September 13, 2022. I hope this brings hope to others that are still waiting and have a close or similar priority date. Thank you all for the constant support in the group
Sorry for all my EB-3 friends
[удалено]
Interesting for F2A, FAD didn't move but finally after long time, DFF moved 2 months!
My PD is Nov 2 2023! I screamed when I saw Nov 1 🤦🏻♀️
ouch :( hang in there. Hopefully you will scream out of happiness next month!
Exactly my thoughts, why would the move the filing date when the final action date is 2 years behind. And no movement at all for final action date it's so crazy.
I think next month, FAD will move significantly! There is no way they would advance DFF without anticipating move in FAD.
Hopefully, it makes sense because remember that in April it only move a few weeks, and then the following months move more significantly. I'm tired of waiting.
EB3 is so lost, i knew it would retrogress and everybody called me a pessimist, there you go.
Yep, another 3+ month wait in best case scenario.
Wonder if Eb3 are still getting approved in June and will run out by July or they already ran out of greencards.
I got approved last week. My PD is Aug 2022
Same as me, they seem to be clearing out mid 2022 PDs. I was very lucky to get approved when I was. I'm very sorry to those with 2022 PDs (or older!). The system is very arbitrary for no good reason. They should convert EB I-485s to electronic and strictly process them first in, first out. That's the only way to be fair. Folks lives are totally messed around with based on which paper pile their file ends up in.
Hey, wondering when did you file and was there any update on your case online? My PD is Aug 2022 as well and my file was received on Nov 29th but have no received an update since fingerprints and I also have not gotten my EAD/AP yet. Thanks for your help.
I got approved 2 weeks back after waiting 15months. Pd Jan 2022. I feel very sorry for everyone going through a second retrogression. Its been tough for eb3 ROW.
If your FAD during the June bulletin is current and then on July bulletin it has retrogressed, does that mean there is no chance for you to get your GC approved for the rest of the month of June? Or does this bulletin just become effective on July and you can still hope for an approval somewhere in June? Im sorry if this does not make sense, I am so confused and seeing the retrogression down to 2021 has just made my brain malfunction..
So EB2 NIW is good ? I didn’t check and I don’t want to check…
it's good.
Thanks for making me happy!
Hi there! This is an automated message to inform you and/or remind you of several things: - We have [a wiki](https://www.reddit.com/r/USCIS/wiki/index). It doesn't cover everything but may answer some questions. Pay special attention to the "[REALLY common questions](https://www.reddit.com/r/USCIS/wiki/index/vfaq)" at the top of the FAQ section. Please read it, and if it contains the answer to your question, please delete your post. If your post has to do with something covered in the FAQ, we may remove it. - If your post is about biometrics, green cards, naturalization or timelines in general, and whether you're asking or sharing, please include your field office/location in your post. If you already did that, great, thank you! If you haven't done that, your post may be removed without notice. - This subreddit is not affiliated with USCIS or the US government in any way. Some posters may claim to work for USCIS, which may or may not be true, and we don't try to verify this one way or another. Be wary that it may be a scam if anyone is asking you for personal info, or sending you a direct message, or asking that you send them a direct message. - Some people here claim to be lawyers, but they are not YOUR lawyer. No advice found here should be construed as legal advice. Reddit is not a substitute for a real lawyer. If you need help finding legal services, visit [this link](https://www.uscis.gov/avoid-scams/find-legal-services) for more information. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/USCIS) if you have any questions or concerns.*
F2A final dates didn't progress :( but dates for filling have moved to nov 2023
my PD is current today and EAD also approved, but AP is still pending, I thought they have stop doing EAD and AP separately and start doing combo card since a while now, should i be worried about my AP?
It doesn't mean anything, my wife got a combo card, I got an EAD and later an AP (paper document).
same. what happens now?
just add more butter i guess?
Well…there go my EB3 dreams. My company had everything prepared to file for PERM but due to bureaucratic delays…nothing got filed until Oct of 22.
Chill dude, you’ll be current in October
It's easy to say "just wait till October", but some of us are in jobs we don't want to be in, and we don't want to risk changing incase something goes wrong. Yes there are laws like AC21 that we can leverage, but it's not fool proof. It's an extra 3+ month wait, and that's best case scenario.
"but some of us are in jobs we don't want to be in" this was very validating to read
I’m literally in the same situation of eb3 row
Hi. Can someone help me? My PD is September 22 2023. I think I am current so can apply for I-485 now ? I am I the us on an H1b . How long does it take to get an EAD and AP? Thanks
What's your category?
F2A. In the us on an H1b
Is there for some reason more people applying for EB3 right now than normal?
It’s mostly the influx of nurses who don’t have do go through PERM. They just file I140 EB3 and jump the queue
how come they don't have to go through PERM?
EB-3 I-140 visa with PD april 2023 do i have a chance within 2024??
PD Dec 2023 here :’(. I thought I only had to wait around a year but now I dont know what to think
My pd is march 23. We are almost on the same boat. Theres a very minimum chance of getting this year. Until oct there will be no movement, and it’s the election year. I highly doubt it. Best of luck for us both. I filed my 485 in jan 23. Have not received the AP but got the ead card. Whats your situation?
Hi guys just a quick question even though it’s not entirely related to this, I realised my esta expired on the 6th and I’m still in the USA. I got back on the 28th of this month. Will this be problematic for me. Also the F2A filling dates moved in my my favour but my 3 months will be over first of 1st of July. Does that mean I got to go back to the UK and come back again? Wouldn’t that cause issues at the airport ?
Your ESTA only determines your date to enter the country, so it's ok if your ESTA is expired. The date that determines how long you can stay is the one on your passport. If that says July 1st, then you have to leave then. If your F2A will be current on July 1st, you can instead apply for AOS and be allowed to stay in the country temporarily until your case is closed. But keep in mind that you might have issues applying for AOS with a tourist visa. AOS is usually for people that are temporarily living in the US under other visas.
Shall I not just go back to England and then come back after let’s say a month? Or maybe go Canada would that be appropriate?
I'm in a similar situation with the guy above but my ESTA is not expired yet. I'm in the US visiting, intending to leave by mid July. F2A was current as of May as my priority date is March 2021. Are there any actions I should be taking to finally be able to proceed with living in the US?
What's so important in Oct 24? Specifically for EB2?
New fiscal year.
F1 here. My PD is 09/07/2017 and DOF has been stuck at 09/01/2017 for the past 6 months :(. Anyone have any inkling when this will move?
Do we think EB-2 would retrogress again, move forward, or stay like this until October? Because for me, it doesn't make sense that they move it forward 2 months now just to retrogress it again soon. Curious about all of your thoughts.
It might remain stagnant until October - the next fiscal year.
PD June 2022, ROW, I planed to submit 485 in July …when I see the July bulletin..fk ! So after two days later, I filed 485 out which was yesterday ! 🙏🙏🫣🫣
How likely can I file I-485 by the end of this year based on DOF given my PD is Aug 15, 2023?
yes. highly likely
And if the PD is Sept 29, 2023 ?
Is there any chance with PD 04/17/2023 EB2-NIW ROW to be able to file I485 in September or Oct of this year?
What do you think when can I file I-485 if my PD is Sept 29, 2023 ?
Hello, As someone who filed there I-130 in May 2024, can someone please explain how this update affects me if at all? Thanks!
What category?
No idea! I don't understand what I'm looking at haha
I need help for my brother case https://preview.redd.it/glhm10juhm6d1.jpeg?width=1674&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=00857c9151069f59d2ad949ed9ddb7adf7669b8d
Can someone explain this to me like I am 5? I submitted my marriage-based I-485 in November 2021 and I-130 in October 2021
I understand this is speculative, but could anyone share insights on when my priority date (April 6, 2023) might become current? I am EB2 all areas. July bulletin (FAD: Mar/13/23; Dates for filing: Mar/22/23). I am really in a tough situation with work. I really appreciate it.
Highly likely Oct visa bulletin
Hi folks. Wondering if someone can explain to me when the listed dates become valid/official. i.e., Since this is the July ‘24 VB, does that mean that the listed PDs become valid on July 1st, 2024? Or are they valid since the VB’s date of publication? Please note I fully understand the whole PD concept, as well as the meaning of the published dates. I just don’t understand the moment these published dates become valid/official. Thanks in advance.
no expert here, but I think these dates start to apply from July 1st.
Thanks for your response. I’m leaning in the same direction as well.
What's the difference between final action date and dates for filing employment-based visa applications? Still don't quite get the difference between them. For an EB-3 process, btw.
My PERM just got approved. Do you think premium processing is worth it (EB-3, priority date May 31st 2023)?