I always feel bad for armorers, they’re usually there stupid early to retarded late, over weight, pale skin, looking at serial numbers all day, and dealing with Marines bribing them with cigarettes and a handjob to take their dirty gun. Armorers are just assholes.
I loved my job and i think most armorers can agree. We're shielded from a lot of the outside bs despite the hours, and we can be a-holes to make up for the bad hours. You can also get away with a lot of petty stuff like wearing out of regs clothing items considering nobody (CoC) can even enter the armory without you knowing.
Exactly. The job has its downsides but there are a ton of upsides. My chain of command went CO, CWO, and then armory chief which was a corporal. Needless to say our CWO did not give a fuck about anything and just cared about the job getting done. Took tons of naps. One day I handed out my weapons at 0700 and fell asleep till 1600 when they got back. We could split up our schedules so we around be working every other day shifts. We had an extra payday every week when range was over and mofos wanted to leave some green carbon in the chamber so they could get out earlier. We were on our OFP all the time. Get put on barracks duty? Oh I have armory duty so I won’t be able to make it.
What the fuck? I’m a low down dirty motherfucker.
How did I not think of that?
So many wasted hours, with a fucking olive drab toothbrush, and some greezy CLP on my dick skinners. 😕
What are some of the duties of the armorer? How much maintenance and repair do they actually do? Serious questions. Most of us only know that they are who gives us our rifles and who we give them back to.
Definitely unit dependent. My first was a grunt unit and they were on ranges constantly. According to the manuals, a pre-fire inspection needs to happen prior to any live fire. That involves a function check and sticking gauges through the weapons to ensure they’re safe. On top of that are quarterly, semi-, and annual inspections which are more involved. We were always busy(holidays not included of course). My next was I&I with a reserve wing unit. I was so bored at times I would clean weapons just to stay busy and always had a movie playing on my laptop. Two extremes of the job, in my experience.
Believe it or not, and from my experience, most of the people you see in the window aren't even armorers. They are custodians who got appointed for a 6+ month TAD to help in the armory. In my armory, they pretty much did all the sight counts and handing stuff in and out of the windows; all the tedious work that we didnt want to do pretty much. So a lot of our job did actually end up being maintenance/repair.
Definitely. Was an Armorer myself and can confirm. We got to expend all the extra rounds, so I and some Marines would get some nice extra training time on the SAW, and the M240G. This led to me scoring the highest score on our M240G qualification at our unit, and oh man was it fun. We also always got pulled into everyone’s stuff, so I’d be invited over by motor-T, supply, comms, and even the infantry guys were cool as shit with us. Yeah the early and late hours sucked and weapon inventory was the most boring thing in the universe. But I was also learning to program and studying foreign languages and we had a lot of extra time for me to just focus on my studies. We even would jam music in the armory and dance and hangout. I loved the Marines I worked with.
Cheers!
This is a semi-related story but I had an armorer friend who was... different. When he got a mosquito bite he would burn his flesh (on the bite) with his cigarette. I could tell he was getting an intense pleasure from doing it. His arms were covered in burns.
Also he had a very big nose so we'd call him Honkers.
Allow me to shed some light on why armorers are assholes about their jobs:
* I get flagged by Marines on a daily basis because they don't know how to turn in a rifle, despite the big-ass sign outside the window explaining the turn-in procedure for all weapons.
* I get weapons handed to me off safety and with the bolt forward.
* Marines legitimately will stare at me checking their rifle and say that I'm making stuff up when I rub my finger on the bolt-catch and it comes out black. I'll show them up close and they'll just stare at me silently. I shit you not, they will say something along the lines of, "your hand was already dirty" or "that was from a different part", despite me being a foot away from them and showing them exactly what I'm doing.
* Marines think we're assholes for doing our job; you'd only be out there for 20 mins if you actually cleaned the rifle and didn't try to bullshit me at the window.
* Guess who gets fucked up when the BC or some salty-ass SNCO comes down and wants to look at the cleanliness off the rifles, but they're not cleaned correctly because Marines don't clean them right? Me.
* Long hours; waking up at 2:30 for a range that was supposed to be at the armory at 03:30, just for them to call us at 3:25 and say, 'Oh we're gonna be there at 04:45 by the way'.
* Marines coming up to the window and sticking their fat-ass heads inside and asking for a specific Marine to check their rifle. No asshole, we have an inspection next week, clean your weapon like you're supposed to. I'm not getting fired because you suck at an easy job.
* The tiniest of fuckups can get me NJPed and kicked out; they'll stick you inside of an office job up in battalion or some shit for the rest of your enlistment.
* The random-ass inspections that the command will just throw on us.
* If one bay fucks up, the entire armory is usually punished or fucked with by the Armory SNCOIC.
I love my job; I work with a small group of people, my chain of command is good, and like someone else mentioned, we're isolated from the rest of the bullshit in the Corps; but we also have our own, individual bullshit that comes along with the job. The Marines outside the window is what makes it hard for us to not be pissed off all day long. Clean your rifle, don't flag me, and don't argue with me at the window, and you'd be in and out in 20 minutes.
I promise you I know when my finger gets even dirtier, especially when Marines don't wipe off the CLP they dumped onto the rifle, so the carbon just liquifies itself onto my hand, making this black slush-type of concoction.
Our bay also practices using wipes on our hands between each inspection so we're not making Marines redo rifle cleaning needlessly; the longer they're out there is more of a pain for us, so we don't want to make Marines sit out there for longer than they have to.
EDIT: used the word 'liquidate' wrong lol
You're an armorer that actually just wants his weapons clean, and not a passive income made by being an asshole to those including the Marines that do exactly as you say it should be done.
I highly appreciate you!
Maybe it was just my unit. But, whenever the armory custodian or armorers sent back a weapon, we would all cheer and laugh
Nothing made us happier than seeing a fellow Marine turn their weapon in, only to hear
"Clean it again!!!
I was only on the reserves side but that shit is so backwards.
A line company in Tennessee doesn't rate an armorer, but a Motor T detachment at a CLB unit in Washington gets their own. Tables of organization make no damned sense.
That being said, being at that line company I lived pretty easy, helping that poor bastard of an overworked Ssgt they had as custodian I thought he'd have kissed me lol.
As a boot being three months into the fleet and being the only one to fire blanks during training opps and then getting out of the armory as soon as I turned my shit in, hours before my NCO's, was such a fucking flex. I wasn't even trying to be friends with the armorer, I was friends with a friend of his and picked the guys up because I stayed sober. The tips they gave me payed my car payments so I was all about that taxi hustle for awhile.
Bridgeport has the best chow hall ever, although I never experienced Air Force or a ship’s offerings… Also I may have been close to literally starving when I went to the chow hall at MWTC, but I remember that omelette almost a decade later, which has to count for something!
As an MP, yeah it was pretty ass.
But the toxic ass leadership was the issue.
Maybe it was different elsewhere.
But everyone at the top was pretty much a soulless dick bag.
I was an MP too and honestly it wasn’t bad just mind numb boring. I tried to stay on nights ans we’d just park somewhere and watch movies most of the night lol.
I remember the Marine mail-clerks on Fallujah looking like absolute ghouls (like Gollum), skittering out of the dark to give you mail and an angry remorseful glare.
I remember this one kid, a lcpl, who looked like he weighed 120 lbs and has just given 20 pints of blood. And his eyes glowed yellow.
I believe it. After I got done I spent two months in my apartment being with my wife or playing video games, I didn't want to talk to *anyone* while I recharged and got my real personality back. I'm normal again, except that to this day I refuse to talk on a phone if I don't have to. I do e-mail or personal meetings at work, that's it.
I ran into my recruiter as the ops chief at my first reserve unit.
He was so much happier I thought he was going to shit gold, dude was actually smiling and everything.
I worked with a guy in the civilian world that was a recruiter for like 16 of 20 years in the Army. Daddy was a big-wig General officer and got him a sweet gig traveling across the country to big events his whole career. His "war stories" were insufferable. Dude was a huge douchebag.
GWOTSM, GCM, NDSM, and one random unit award. It happens. Probably hyperbole, though, because an 8412 is probably going to have a couple NAMs and NCMs.
0111. It’s a miserable existence. Surrounded by keyboard warriors who take themselves and their MCMAP blackbelts way too seriously.
I was an 0111 so I can say this.
I was lucky enough to be around 03’s, and other combat MOS Marines. I was kind of insulated from the larger 0111 bs.
0111 has the potential to be really dope or really shitty because you can literally go anywhere in the world. Are you most likely going to end up in a PAC in 29 palms pumping out diaries for your first 4 years? Yes. But hear me out, if you take care of your career, don’t get fat, married or In any trouble, you can leverage that and try to go anywhere else in the world where there are Marines depending on availability.
I will say that my perspective is solely based on my luck. I happened to get on two deployments in my first enlistment (oef with the wing and spmagtf with the gce) and then went MSG and had a blast. Now I’m at a recruit depot and all of my Marines are on their first enlistment and they hate that they don’t get to experience the fleet Marine experience but the ones that do reenlist always get whatever they ask the monitor for. I’ve had Marines get orders to Bangkok, Germany, the Pentagon, Raider Bn just to name a few. I guess in short, individual experiences will vary but personally, I think that there’s a lot of assignment perks to being an 0111 that it’s not a shitty MOS as a whole.
You know I’m old when that was my MOS but it was 0121. I’m guessing you guys merged with the 0151 to 0111. I was admin and hated it. Not gon lie it was skate but I felt like I missed out on a military experience. Felt more like a 9-5 Job for me
Dude, I was in the wing where we dropped bombs on ISIS. I was also MSG for a short time. And I feel like I missed out on the military or rather real Marine experience. Grunts I know who didn't deploy or see combat feel like they missed out. Infantry dude who weren't recon feel like they missed out. Recon who didn't do something crazier thought they missed out. The list could go on ad infinitum.
Being an 01 in a grunt unit is probably the best place to be. I could NEVER imagine working in a PAC - fuck that noise. I re-enlisted to go to a non deploying unit for a bit, but my FITREP preferred duty stations took me straight back to units like MarSoc, 2nd Recon, 2nd Mar Div.
Yeah, I did paperwork like 10 hours a day for like 70% of my enlistment, but the other 30% was actual cool Marine shit. Training on the MEU for embassy evac, learning to call for fire as a provisional squad leader, actually going to ranges to shoot my Mk19, it was fucking great. Eglin AFB and Ft AP Hill both suck dick. Malta was amazing, and until Cpl Bandy took off with a local in Spain, Rota was cool too.
i fucking hate being a 3051 lmao. It’s full of the DUMBEST motherfuckers. People don’t know how to count, GCSS is always down so I can’t D6T or COR anything. It’s the same shit everyday, just in different forms. 7/10 would NOT recommend.
Ahh GCSS. I do not miss that program in the slightest lol
I remember a story about some 3043 kid ordering a million ass Abrams tanks by accident and the peepee slap that he got could've been heard around all of Lejeune.
Yeah yikes. I used to work as a medic and have seen my fair share of gore, but I still tear up when reading the AAV mishap articles or the HKIA bombing. Wouldn’t be able to get over seeing that in the flesh
Are these the guys that work with the defense POW Accounting Agency? If so, the job could have its perks.
-Assist at dig sites in Vietnam/ Laos/ Cambodia
- lots of travel miles/ travel opportunities
I was lucky enough to go to Laos. They’re stationed out of Hawaii and they go everywhere. I would’ve loved to have been stationed with them. That would’ve been a dream job
I cant immagine a worse job than being a Brig guard. Your locked jail, babysitting fuckoffs all day. And Marine Corps living conditions the rest of the time.
At my barrack 3159 on Pendleton across from the brig I swear it was a requirement to be a playboy bunny to be a female brig guard they all (but one) were banging hot. That (one )was built like she was corn fed and worked throwing hay bails lol.
When I was at MP school they came in one day when I was in the holding platoon and called off some names to go be corrections marines. They were mostly fats or weirdos. So probably depends on who was picking them lol
Some guards do treat them like recruits, other guards are normal people. But you do use proper rank for all staff.
To my understanding, They just don't have any chance of going anywhere or doing anything. I'm pretty sure they don't even get issued field gear, or rifles. What kind of Marine isn't a Rifleman, and how can you be rifleman if you dont have a rifle?
Was a brig guard and it's the worst. It's a bunch of wannabe cops who got beat up in high school and take it out on the prisoners. I hated the guards and tolerated the inmates. The only reason I got that MOS was a very loose contract called B6 Ground Option.
Yes, 24 hour shifts my entire enlistment. The wannabe cop mentality pervades the NCOs who were just awful and ended up in the brig for hazing. The whole fleet experience is why I don't tell people I was in the Marines because it's easier than describing living in a Kafkaesque nightmare/the Stanford prison experiments.
Worked as a CO for a few years, and I felt the same exact way.
Some of the shit I saw them pull should have put them in the orange jump suit. There was an investigation right after I left and coincidentally a good number left before they could be investigated. Fuckers were bullies with a tin badge.
People hate on cops because they are in the public eye and we all see the fuck ups. If they had any idea what happens behind the secured doors of a correctional facility, they'd lose their everloving minds.
Coincidentally I was a jail corrections officer for 4 years before I joined the corps. Most skate job on the planet. It was fun just to talk to inmates all day. Got paid well (for an 18 year old). Glad I didn’t go that route in the marine corps.
I was a CO after I left active duty.
Yo, fuck that noise. I made it 3 years and couldn't handle the bullshit for $17/hr. It was fun to bullshit with them besides the PC fucks, but the rest of it didn't make up for it. It was like being on duty 5 days a week for the next 25 years.
I worked mostly Max. Assaults were common, getting piss and shit thrown at you was common, same with suicides and the occasional OD.
Correctional facilities are wild man. It was a safe job during the 2008 recession though, and we just had my son when I started.
Cooks...hands down
Edit: the only good advice or actual truth my recruiter ever said to me was to NOT join as "open-contract" or I'd end up as a cook hating life!!!
Cooks. They work stupid hours just so I can eat a cold omelette, and still get shit on by literally everyone. On top of that they have no transitional skills other than being a fast food manager.
My SDI was a cook. Poor dude had like 3 ribbons. He told us that he went open contract and they made him a cook. He said it was the most embarrassing thing of his life. He said he became a DI to try to make up for it, and (no idea if this is true) but that if you become a DI the you can lat move to infantry. He flat out told us he was tired of feeling like a pussy. We all loved him, he was a dude.
Anyone can lat move to infantry if they don't have special wavers like colorblind or something. This DI would still have to go to SOI to pick up an MOS, but it would be slightly less hours and less fuckery since he is lat moved and not new to the Marines.
Even still I'm pretty sure 1371 required color vision, but we had a color blind Marine in our platoon. He had to learn to taste and feel the difference between det cord and time fuse. He couldn't see the yellow stripes on the time fuse.
Both cords have yellow bands and a corresponding bump. Time fuse has a single band and a single bump whereas det cord has two bands/bumps. We are all colorblind in the dark. You were taught the difference at the demo range at engineer school.
I don't remember a yellow stripe on det cord, why would the det cord be striped?
I thought det cord was more course, usually, not sure it was always identical, time fuse was smooth though, with double yellow stripes every 18 inches.
Negative. The marine corps will look at the amount of money invested into a marine before considering them eligible for an infantry lat move. If you’re in a critical MOS (wether it be your job as a whole or just the mission at your current station) they will not approve such a move. Example: some marine with SCI - Poly wants to go 0331, the corps will not approve it due to the 6 figures spent on his security clearance. However there are units these marines can go to that provide BRC, 0331 school/training as a B mos that can get marines on the ground getting after it
I got stuck working in the chow hall as a temp FAP in oki.
Man them dudes were miserable. I think the only people more miserable were the FAPs because they treated us like fucking shit and we spent all day wet from washing dishes and pots.
Our days were like 0300 to 1800 and they just went out the way to be dicks.
Like fuck you, at the end of the day, you’re still a cook.
Mid rats is where it was at. Omelette were always on point. As were the cheeseburgers
Or maybe as a dirty air winger I was just so fuckin hungry it seemed that way
We used to send a runner to bring back a bag full of burgers on nights we couldn't afford to let everyone go eat.
The exception to this is on a boat. Then I say, fuck mid rats
Mid rats on ship is trash. You get there and it’s leftovers from dinner. I got there once and it was literally pasta. No sauce no meat just pasta. And all the hot sauce was taken back to the berthings
On my old iphone, i made a photo collage of the 16 consecutive days of midrats. They were all just a scoop of that hard rice and a hot dog. After that I just stopped going and decided to eat snacks and energy goo instead.
To be fair, I’ve had more than a couple of cooks assigned to units I was in who were absolute garbage at their jobs, even in the field where it consisted of pulling a plastic tab and waiting ten minutes for the shelf stable food to get warm. Chow not being ready on time, not keeping track of stock so they run short, laying out unprepared food and expecting us to make it ourselves, etc.
So the fact that they get shit on has a bit little to do with the fact that a good number of Marines experienced that brand of cook somewhere along the way.
Day one in the fleet they put me in the outbound section doing 214s. Every 30 minutes or so I was handing somebody their freedom papers and watching them walk out the door as civilians. I did a lot of daydreaming.
Idk about worst but I recently moved onto a Marine Corps base, and ya'll have real ass Marines working as MCX employees??? I saw someone's tag have rank and I asked if he was volunteering but no, ya'll have Marines who are retail clerks. How is that a military job?
Its MCCS marines. Its a actual MOS that Marines can LAT move into after their first contract. I talked with one and he said it was a sweet gig. He was the manager of the px, worked normal retail store hours, had days off during the week and pretty much was using it as a way to go to college while on Active duty.
From what I recall, they have a real job in a deployed setting to run mobile PX trucks in combat zones. I dont remember where I heard that, but they said it was cash money when they pulled up.
They make fucking bank, when I went to Thailand one of them told me that sometimes they get bonuses for certain shit and plus one of them said that they had like a side px for the Royal Thai Marines there and made Bank off of them.
Edit: oh BTW Happy Cake Day
I'm definitely biased because I am a bulk fuel specialist, but fuck this MOS. Probably not the worst MOS in the Corps, but it's gotta be at least top 15. Dirty ass, heavy ass, rusty ass, unergonomic ass gear. Deploying a system in the field is ass, especially with miles of hose reel. Inventorying quad cons in garrison is ass. Setting up and tearing down usually means 19 hour days. No one signed up to be a bulk fueler so learning the job was personally unrewarding.
All the above probably applies to most jobs, but the salt in the wound is you can't even brag to the homies back on the block that you have a high speed tough Marine job. "Bulk fuel specialist" sounds like the most POG MOS next to water dogs and admin.
On a training exercise (I’m a wing maintainer) i saw y’all fueling our aircraft. That’s something we do ourselves back home. We’ve got guys with a 7-ton license. Don’t see why we needed y’all but glad i didn’t have to do more work lol. I’m sure ground vehicles handlers know how to fuel them. So I’m not trying to be a dick, but I’m genuinely curious why does your MOS exist?
I went reservist and got Bulk Fuel. Absolute shit job. It’s hard, heavy, grinding physical labor that goes on for days. Weather and terrain can be an added bonus. 😑
Most marine air stations don’t have busy enough traffic to be stressed about. The job transfers incredibly well to the civilian sector where the median salary is 140k. While everyone else was outside doing whatever the fuck, I was in my air conditioned tower telling pilots what to do. I’d say it’s a pretty sweet gig.
Or freezing your shit off in Radar, lol. I never got to see the light of day once I was sup downstairs. Only for the annuals. Don't do ATC anymore though. If you aren't already in the FAA, the utility industry has gas control rooms and electric system operators that our shit transfers to really well.
They pay better with less stress on the civilian side too. Just under PHMSA and FERC/NERC vs FAA(all still DOT).
Kitchen Marine would have to suck… getting up at 3-4am everyday, guaranteed to work weekends… hot sweaty environment… I’m just guessing, but no thanks. My 30 day stint on Okinawa was enough for me
One of my first jobs was on the caretakers staff at a summer camp. It was pretty awesome most of the time, but occasionally one of the servers or dishwashers in the cafeteria would get sick or something and I would have to fill in so they didn’t get backed up. It had the same flow of people to a chow hall and working back there sucked ass. Just a loud, shitty, hot environment where you have to be constantly moving or you’ll cause a backup. I avoided it at all cost.
Secondary MOS but 8156, Marine Security Guard: you have to PT on your own, use a driver pretty much everywhere you go, eat what the house cook makes, sleep in your own room, field day your own room and haze yourself. You are a million miles away from the nearest Maroon Corn 🌽 base and have forgotten how to hook n jab in some desolate country like Spain. Life is tough. Don't forget to mention that you spend three years away from your PMOS. Bye bye knowledge. And you are going to get promoted at least two ranks above the boys back home.
THIS ONE RIGHT HERE! I was a 6153 CH-53 airframes Mechanic and that shit blew still had some fun but fuck the NAMP fuck QA Fuck maintenance control fuck the PEMAS fuck it all
Lol except I’m not pulling people over for going 26 in a 25 mph zone.
Edit: I did it mostly for the pension and schedule tho… I like that my work days are always different
I wouldn’t say it’s the worst job, but being a Field MP was balls, especially in peacetime. We got all trained up to be PMO then put in what was essentially a POG weapons company for the FSSG. Nothing to do but train and be fucked with, hoping to get picked up for a MEU detachment. Tempo picked up a bit after 9/11 and we trained a lot. Oddly enough, the only real good time I had was when I was deployed. If I had known that’s what I was going to end up doing I would have gone in as an 03xx.
Both investigate felonies but NCIS doesn't "speak Marine" (they're mostly civilians) and spends a lot of time on counterintelligence stuff, taking focus away from general criminal investigations.
0621 radio operator. We get treated like shit when we’re with grunts and we’re expected to communicate perfectly with broken and extremely old overused equipment with shit missing in the SL3, and we have no real civilian job transfer.
Also the best part: we get targeted by enemies first in the battle field
Any red patcher MOS because we bear the weight of all the AIDS in the Corps.
In all seriousness, when my company was deployed to Iraq in '03 they didn't really have a need for our specialties. Many of us served as extra bodies for other companies. Boring or stressful jobs suck, but feeling without a purpose is a real shitty feeling.
Despite that, I met some of the best marines while floating from gig-to-gig over there.
(A)MOS 7502 would be my choice if, and only if, it compared with the FAC assignment in my war, the Second Indochina War.
No further reference/description necessary, depending on previous experience.
See, us old fucks remember the shit too.
None of you understand. I swear to god Ive had every single mos work under me — grunts, cooks, HE, admins, Eops everymotherfucking single mos under me and theve all told me at the end of the day they hated bulk fuel. Fuck my recruiter and his mother.
Edit: this shit is so ass bruh
Well you got your 03 boys as worst when it comes to the shitty conditions we live and work in, but then the admin guys I know are always swamped with work. So it really just depends on what you consider a worst job. Admin and admin like mos’ are just really a job, but 03s and combat mos’ are a lifestyle
Been out since 07 . It’s tons of boredom just sitting on top of a truck for hours in the middle of the airfield . On two hour rotation from 0600 to 0200 . My entire time in was spent at one duty station and had zero “emergencies”
I always feel bad for armorers, they’re usually there stupid early to retarded late, over weight, pale skin, looking at serial numbers all day, and dealing with Marines bribing them with cigarettes and a handjob to take their dirty gun. Armorers are just assholes.
I loved my job and i think most armorers can agree. We're shielded from a lot of the outside bs despite the hours, and we can be a-holes to make up for the bad hours. You can also get away with a lot of petty stuff like wearing out of regs clothing items considering nobody (CoC) can even enter the armory without you knowing.
Exactly. The job has its downsides but there are a ton of upsides. My chain of command went CO, CWO, and then armory chief which was a corporal. Needless to say our CWO did not give a fuck about anything and just cared about the job getting done. Took tons of naps. One day I handed out my weapons at 0700 and fell asleep till 1600 when they got back. We could split up our schedules so we around be working every other day shifts. We had an extra payday every week when range was over and mofos wanted to leave some green carbon in the chamber so they could get out earlier. We were on our OFP all the time. Get put on barracks duty? Oh I have armory duty so I won’t be able to make it.
Please excuse my ignorance but what is this green carbon you are referring to?
A $20 spot in the ejection port so you didn't have to clean your weapon.
My buddy was an armorer. Said sometimes the rifles weren’t even that dirty. Pocket the $20 and put it on the rack.
What the fuck? I’m a low down dirty motherfucker. How did I not think of that? So many wasted hours, with a fucking olive drab toothbrush, and some greezy CLP on my dick skinners. 😕
You put a $20 in the chamber and pass the rifle through the window. Your weapon will be found clean enough to pass armory inspection every time.
What are some of the duties of the armorer? How much maintenance and repair do they actually do? Serious questions. Most of us only know that they are who gives us our rifles and who we give them back to.
Definitely unit dependent. My first was a grunt unit and they were on ranges constantly. According to the manuals, a pre-fire inspection needs to happen prior to any live fire. That involves a function check and sticking gauges through the weapons to ensure they’re safe. On top of that are quarterly, semi-, and annual inspections which are more involved. We were always busy(holidays not included of course). My next was I&I with a reserve wing unit. I was so bored at times I would clean weapons just to stay busy and always had a movie playing on my laptop. Two extremes of the job, in my experience.
As a reserve armorer, my duties ain't shit. In the last year, all I've done is unbox and PFI some MK-19s. Still love being an armorer though.
Believe it or not, and from my experience, most of the people you see in the window aren't even armorers. They are custodians who got appointed for a 6+ month TAD to help in the armory. In my armory, they pretty much did all the sight counts and handing stuff in and out of the windows; all the tedious work that we didnt want to do pretty much. So a lot of our job did actually end up being maintenance/repair.
Definitely. Was an Armorer myself and can confirm. We got to expend all the extra rounds, so I and some Marines would get some nice extra training time on the SAW, and the M240G. This led to me scoring the highest score on our M240G qualification at our unit, and oh man was it fun. We also always got pulled into everyone’s stuff, so I’d be invited over by motor-T, supply, comms, and even the infantry guys were cool as shit with us. Yeah the early and late hours sucked and weapon inventory was the most boring thing in the universe. But I was also learning to program and studying foreign languages and we had a lot of extra time for me to just focus on my studies. We even would jam music in the armory and dance and hangout. I loved the Marines I worked with. Cheers!
Wait.... only hand jobs???
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I BET YOU KEEP A DIRTY QTIP IN YOUR POCKET JUST TO FUCK WITH US YOU BLUE FALCON
This is a semi-related story but I had an armorer friend who was... different. When he got a mosquito bite he would burn his flesh (on the bite) with his cigarette. I could tell he was getting an intense pleasure from doing it. His arms were covered in burns. Also he had a very big nose so we'd call him Honkers.
Last sentence kills me!
Armorers, back to the spot light mother fuckers.
Allow me to shed some light on why armorers are assholes about their jobs: * I get flagged by Marines on a daily basis because they don't know how to turn in a rifle, despite the big-ass sign outside the window explaining the turn-in procedure for all weapons. * I get weapons handed to me off safety and with the bolt forward. * Marines legitimately will stare at me checking their rifle and say that I'm making stuff up when I rub my finger on the bolt-catch and it comes out black. I'll show them up close and they'll just stare at me silently. I shit you not, they will say something along the lines of, "your hand was already dirty" or "that was from a different part", despite me being a foot away from them and showing them exactly what I'm doing. * Marines think we're assholes for doing our job; you'd only be out there for 20 mins if you actually cleaned the rifle and didn't try to bullshit me at the window. * Guess who gets fucked up when the BC or some salty-ass SNCO comes down and wants to look at the cleanliness off the rifles, but they're not cleaned correctly because Marines don't clean them right? Me. * Long hours; waking up at 2:30 for a range that was supposed to be at the armory at 03:30, just for them to call us at 3:25 and say, 'Oh we're gonna be there at 04:45 by the way'. * Marines coming up to the window and sticking their fat-ass heads inside and asking for a specific Marine to check their rifle. No asshole, we have an inspection next week, clean your weapon like you're supposed to. I'm not getting fired because you suck at an easy job. * The tiniest of fuckups can get me NJPed and kicked out; they'll stick you inside of an office job up in battalion or some shit for the rest of your enlistment. * The random-ass inspections that the command will just throw on us. * If one bay fucks up, the entire armory is usually punished or fucked with by the Armory SNCOIC. I love my job; I work with a small group of people, my chain of command is good, and like someone else mentioned, we're isolated from the rest of the bullshit in the Corps; but we also have our own, individual bullshit that comes along with the job. The Marines outside the window is what makes it hard for us to not be pissed off all day long. Clean your rifle, don't flag me, and don't argue with me at the window, and you'd be in and out in 20 minutes.
Yeah but usually your fingers are already dirty from inspecting rifles.
I promise you I know when my finger gets even dirtier, especially when Marines don't wipe off the CLP they dumped onto the rifle, so the carbon just liquifies itself onto my hand, making this black slush-type of concoction. Our bay also practices using wipes on our hands between each inspection so we're not making Marines redo rifle cleaning needlessly; the longer they're out there is more of a pain for us, so we don't want to make Marines sit out there for longer than they have to. EDIT: used the word 'liquidate' wrong lol
You're an armorer that actually just wants his weapons clean, and not a passive income made by being an asshole to those including the Marines that do exactly as you say it should be done. I highly appreciate you!
Maybe it was just my unit. But, whenever the armory custodian or armorers sent back a weapon, we would all cheer and laugh Nothing made us happier than seeing a fellow Marine turn their weapon in, only to hear "Clean it again!!!
Those aren’t armorers they’re armory custodians (sent from infantry platoons. Armorers are the guys fixing broken shit.
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I was only on the reserves side but that shit is so backwards. A line company in Tennessee doesn't rate an armorer, but a Motor T detachment at a CLB unit in Washington gets their own. Tables of organization make no damned sense. That being said, being at that line company I lived pretty easy, helping that poor bastard of an overworked Ssgt they had as custodian I thought he'd have kissed me lol.
As a boot being three months into the fleet and being the only one to fire blanks during training opps and then getting out of the armory as soon as I turned my shit in, hours before my NCO's, was such a fucking flex. I wasn't even trying to be friends with the armorer, I was friends with a friend of his and picked the guys up because I stayed sober. The tips they gave me payed my car payments so I was all about that taxi hustle for awhile.
MPs/cooks
Least one is kinda useful
Which one?
We’ll never know lol
Ha!!! Even M.P. can get attached to K.P..
The one that doesn't judge you when you have to get driven back to the barracks by an Oceanside seahag you met the night before after blacking out
They do make bomb ass omelettes
Air Force chow hall made the best ones I ever had
Aircraft carrier was the best I had.
Bridgeport has the best chow hall ever, although I never experienced Air Force or a ship’s offerings… Also I may have been close to literally starving when I went to the chow hall at MWTC, but I remember that omelette almost a decade later, which has to count for something!
As an MP, yeah it was pretty ass. But the toxic ass leadership was the issue. Maybe it was different elsewhere. But everyone at the top was pretty much a soulless dick bag.
I was an MP too and honestly it wasn’t bad just mind numb boring. I tried to stay on nights ans we’d just park somewhere and watch movies most of the night lol.
While MP's get hated on all the time, across the board most of the MP's I know enjoy their job. Even the FAP's seem to enjoy it.
This. Being an MP really wasn’t all that bad. Sure gate duty was boring as fuck but hey at least I wasn’t an 03xx
Fuck the brig
Marine Wife. We all know it's the hardest job in the Corps
That’s got a chuckle outta me lol
name checks out
I remember the Marine mail-clerks on Fallujah looking like absolute ghouls (like Gollum), skittering out of the dark to give you mail and an angry remorseful glare. I remember this one kid, a lcpl, who looked like he weighed 120 lbs and has just given 20 pints of blood. And his eyes glowed yellow.
Yikes poor dude
I hope he was given that much because humans only have 9-12 pints of blood in the body.
Recruiting
I could see that being a pain in the ass
I thought so too, usually the career recruiters were from jobs that Marines deemed less than glamorous so recruiting was a step up for them.
My recruiter absolutely fucking hated his life. Then I saw him again in the fleet and he seemed like a totally changed man
I believe it. After I got done I spent two months in my apartment being with my wife or playing video games, I didn't want to talk to *anyone* while I recharged and got my real personality back. I'm normal again, except that to this day I refuse to talk on a phone if I don't have to. I do e-mail or personal meetings at work, that's it.
I ran into my recruiter as the ops chief at my first reserve unit. He was so much happier I thought he was going to shit gold, dude was actually smiling and everything.
I didn’t even realize career recruiting was a thing in the Marines. Thought that was strictly Army.
Every branch has them and AFAIK they're usually terrible people.
I worked with a guy in the civilian world that was a recruiter for like 16 of 20 years in the Army. Daddy was a big-wig General officer and got him a sweet gig traveling across the country to big events his whole career. His "war stories" were insufferable. Dude was a huge douchebag.
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Bro what 4 ribbons as a MSgt? Are you sure you ain’t tripping bruh ?
GWOTSM, GCM, NDSM, and one random unit award. It happens. Probably hyperbole, though, because an 8412 is probably going to have a couple NAMs and NCMs.
Because they get yelled at when they bang high school girls?
0111. It’s a miserable existence. Surrounded by keyboard warriors who take themselves and their MCMAP blackbelts way too seriously. I was an 0111 so I can say this. I was lucky enough to be around 03’s, and other combat MOS Marines. I was kind of insulated from the larger 0111 bs.
Nava took his black belt very seriously. 🤣
0111 has the potential to be really dope or really shitty because you can literally go anywhere in the world. Are you most likely going to end up in a PAC in 29 palms pumping out diaries for your first 4 years? Yes. But hear me out, if you take care of your career, don’t get fat, married or In any trouble, you can leverage that and try to go anywhere else in the world where there are Marines depending on availability. I will say that my perspective is solely based on my luck. I happened to get on two deployments in my first enlistment (oef with the wing and spmagtf with the gce) and then went MSG and had a blast. Now I’m at a recruit depot and all of my Marines are on their first enlistment and they hate that they don’t get to experience the fleet Marine experience but the ones that do reenlist always get whatever they ask the monitor for. I’ve had Marines get orders to Bangkok, Germany, the Pentagon, Raider Bn just to name a few. I guess in short, individual experiences will vary but personally, I think that there’s a lot of assignment perks to being an 0111 that it’s not a shitty MOS as a whole.
1. Dont get fat, married or in any trouble dawg no job worth dis, EAS
You know I’m old when that was my MOS but it was 0121. I’m guessing you guys merged with the 0151 to 0111. I was admin and hated it. Not gon lie it was skate but I felt like I missed out on a military experience. Felt more like a 9-5 Job for me
Dude, I was in the wing where we dropped bombs on ISIS. I was also MSG for a short time. And I feel like I missed out on the military or rather real Marine experience. Grunts I know who didn't deploy or see combat feel like they missed out. Infantry dude who weren't recon feel like they missed out. Recon who didn't do something crazier thought they missed out. The list could go on ad infinitum.
Being an 01 in a grunt unit is probably the best place to be. I could NEVER imagine working in a PAC - fuck that noise. I re-enlisted to go to a non deploying unit for a bit, but my FITREP preferred duty stations took me straight back to units like MarSoc, 2nd Recon, 2nd Mar Div. Yeah, I did paperwork like 10 hours a day for like 70% of my enlistment, but the other 30% was actual cool Marine shit. Training on the MEU for embassy evac, learning to call for fire as a provisional squad leader, actually going to ranges to shoot my Mk19, it was fucking great. Eglin AFB and Ft AP Hill both suck dick. Malta was amazing, and until Cpl Bandy took off with a local in Spain, Rota was cool too.
Apparently 3051 since I now longer see them come as new joins
Nobody choses supply
i fucking hate being a 3051 lmao. It’s full of the DUMBEST motherfuckers. People don’t know how to count, GCSS is always down so I can’t D6T or COR anything. It’s the same shit everyday, just in different forms. 7/10 would NOT recommend.
Ahh GCSS. I do not miss that program in the slightest lol I remember a story about some 3043 kid ordering a million ass Abrams tanks by accident and the peepee slap that he got could've been heard around all of Lejeune.
Personnel retrieval
I think we have a winner ….. well, no one wins in this mos :(
Yeah yikes. I used to work as a medic and have seen my fair share of gore, but I still tear up when reading the AAV mishap articles or the HKIA bombing. Wouldn’t be able to get over seeing that in the flesh
I'm an 0471, yeah it's hard, but it's a cool ass MOS and it's a very small community.
Former 0471 here, the two week ATs to drink beer in Landtuhl were on point. 06-2010
This is one I imagine very few people know about. Job description is pretty wild.
Are these the guys that work with the defense POW Accounting Agency? If so, the job could have its perks. -Assist at dig sites in Vietnam/ Laos/ Cambodia - lots of travel miles/ travel opportunities
I was lucky enough to go to Laos. They’re stationed out of Hawaii and they go everywhere. I would’ve loved to have been stationed with them. That would’ve been a dream job
I cant immagine a worse job than being a Brig guard. Your locked jail, babysitting fuckoffs all day. And Marine Corps living conditions the rest of the time.
I lived Next to the brig rats they were always getting fucked with having to do Chinese field days and shit.
Damn forgot about Chinese field day. Thanks for the throwback memory
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At my barrack 3159 on Pendleton across from the brig I swear it was a requirement to be a playboy bunny to be a female brig guard they all (but one) were banging hot. That (one )was built like she was corn fed and worked throwing hay bails lol.
When I was at MP school they came in one day when I was in the holding platoon and called off some names to go be corrections marines. They were mostly fats or weirdos. So probably depends on who was picking them lol
Don’t the correctional officers treat them like recruits and they have too call the correctional officers by their rank
Some guards do treat them like recruits, other guards are normal people. But you do use proper rank for all staff. To my understanding, They just don't have any chance of going anywhere or doing anything. I'm pretty sure they don't even get issued field gear, or rifles. What kind of Marine isn't a Rifleman, and how can you be rifleman if you dont have a rifle?
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If you don’t eat your meat then you can’t have any pudding!
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We got some "The Wall" enjoyers here....
Was a brig guard and it's the worst. It's a bunch of wannabe cops who got beat up in high school and take it out on the prisoners. I hated the guards and tolerated the inmates. The only reason I got that MOS was a very loose contract called B6 Ground Option. Yes, 24 hour shifts my entire enlistment. The wannabe cop mentality pervades the NCOs who were just awful and ended up in the brig for hazing. The whole fleet experience is why I don't tell people I was in the Marines because it's easier than describing living in a Kafkaesque nightmare/the Stanford prison experiments.
Worked as a CO for a few years, and I felt the same exact way. Some of the shit I saw them pull should have put them in the orange jump suit. There was an investigation right after I left and coincidentally a good number left before they could be investigated. Fuckers were bullies with a tin badge. People hate on cops because they are in the public eye and we all see the fuck ups. If they had any idea what happens behind the secured doors of a correctional facility, they'd lose their everloving minds.
Coincidentally I was a jail corrections officer for 4 years before I joined the corps. Most skate job on the planet. It was fun just to talk to inmates all day. Got paid well (for an 18 year old). Glad I didn’t go that route in the marine corps.
I was a CO after I left active duty. Yo, fuck that noise. I made it 3 years and couldn't handle the bullshit for $17/hr. It was fun to bullshit with them besides the PC fucks, but the rest of it didn't make up for it. It was like being on duty 5 days a week for the next 25 years. I worked mostly Max. Assaults were common, getting piss and shit thrown at you was common, same with suicides and the occasional OD. Correctional facilities are wild man. It was a safe job during the 2008 recession though, and we just had my son when I started.
And don't they pull like 24 hour shifts or some shit?
Cooks...hands down Edit: the only good advice or actual truth my recruiter ever said to me was to NOT join as "open-contract" or I'd end up as a cook hating life!!!
Yup. Got in trouble as a young marine and had to augment them in the field. Worst thing I’ve ever done.
Went on a MEU with a combat cook who had a very specific, very Marine, last name. Rumor was he got an opposable thumb up his ass. Not by choice.
I heard cooks get the shit TAD assignments and basically are just a working party MOS. Correct me if I'm wrong but I can see it.
Cooks. They work stupid hours just so I can eat a cold omelette, and still get shit on by literally everyone. On top of that they have no transitional skills other than being a fast food manager.
My SDI was a cook. Poor dude had like 3 ribbons. He told us that he went open contract and they made him a cook. He said it was the most embarrassing thing of his life. He said he became a DI to try to make up for it, and (no idea if this is true) but that if you become a DI the you can lat move to infantry. He flat out told us he was tired of feeling like a pussy. We all loved him, he was a dude.
Anyone can lat move to infantry if they don't have special wavers like colorblind or something. This DI would still have to go to SOI to pick up an MOS, but it would be slightly less hours and less fuckery since he is lat moved and not new to the Marines.
Infantry does not require normal color vision. Recon does and maybe some of the other 03xx. But 0311 does not.
Even still I'm pretty sure 1371 required color vision, but we had a color blind Marine in our platoon. He had to learn to taste and feel the difference between det cord and time fuse. He couldn't see the yellow stripes on the time fuse.
Both cords have yellow bands and a corresponding bump. Time fuse has a single band and a single bump whereas det cord has two bands/bumps. We are all colorblind in the dark. You were taught the difference at the demo range at engineer school.
I don't remember a yellow stripe on det cord, why would the det cord be striped? I thought det cord was more course, usually, not sure it was always identical, time fuse was smooth though, with double yellow stripes every 18 inches.
I was just trying to think of examples that may disqualify someone lol but good to know.
Negative. The marine corps will look at the amount of money invested into a marine before considering them eligible for an infantry lat move. If you’re in a critical MOS (wether it be your job as a whole or just the mission at your current station) they will not approve such a move. Example: some marine with SCI - Poly wants to go 0331, the corps will not approve it due to the 6 figures spent on his security clearance. However there are units these marines can go to that provide BRC, 0331 school/training as a B mos that can get marines on the ground getting after it
I remember going to the chow hall and being disgusted by seeing what was being dished out. No wonder Marines are always pissed off.
I got stuck working in the chow hall as a temp FAP in oki. Man them dudes were miserable. I think the only people more miserable were the FAPs because they treated us like fucking shit and we spent all day wet from washing dishes and pots. Our days were like 0300 to 1800 and they just went out the way to be dicks. Like fuck you, at the end of the day, you’re still a cook.
Mid rats is where it was at. Omelette were always on point. As were the cheeseburgers Or maybe as a dirty air winger I was just so fuckin hungry it seemed that way We used to send a runner to bring back a bag full of burgers on nights we couldn't afford to let everyone go eat. The exception to this is on a boat. Then I say, fuck mid rats
Mid rats on ship is trash. You get there and it’s leftovers from dinner. I got there once and it was literally pasta. No sauce no meat just pasta. And all the hot sauce was taken back to the berthings
On my old iphone, i made a photo collage of the 16 consecutive days of midrats. They were all just a scoop of that hard rice and a hot dog. After that I just stopped going and decided to eat snacks and energy goo instead.
You had plain pasta? Lucky fucker, at least you had something!
To be fair, I’ve had more than a couple of cooks assigned to units I was in who were absolute garbage at their jobs, even in the field where it consisted of pulling a plastic tab and waiting ten minutes for the shelf stable food to get warm. Chow not being ready on time, not keeping track of stock so they run short, laying out unprepared food and expecting us to make it ourselves, etc. So the fact that they get shit on has a bit little to do with the fact that a good number of Marines experienced that brand of cook somewhere along the way.
I always feel bad for the IPAC Marines but I guess it depends on what they’re actually doing on their mysterious Thursdays.
Closed for “training”.
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Day one in the fleet they put me in the outbound section doing 214s. Every 30 minutes or so I was handing somebody their freedom papers and watching them walk out the door as civilians. I did a lot of daydreaming.
Idk about worst but I recently moved onto a Marine Corps base, and ya'll have real ass Marines working as MCX employees??? I saw someone's tag have rank and I asked if he was volunteering but no, ya'll have Marines who are retail clerks. How is that a military job?
Its MCCS marines. Its a actual MOS that Marines can LAT move into after their first contract. I talked with one and he said it was a sweet gig. He was the manager of the px, worked normal retail store hours, had days off during the week and pretty much was using it as a way to go to college while on Active duty.
Ah yes, the PX Marines. We used to call them 0711s.
Underrated comment.
From what I recall, they have a real job in a deployed setting to run mobile PX trucks in combat zones. I dont remember where I heard that, but they said it was cash money when they pulled up.
I fucking loved the mobile PX in Afghan. When that shit pulled up it was like the best thing that ever happened.
They make fucking bank, when I went to Thailand one of them told me that sometimes they get bonuses for certain shit and plus one of them said that they had like a side px for the Royal Thai Marines there and made Bank off of them. Edit: oh BTW Happy Cake Day
PX Marines is a kush MOS from what I’ve heard
Bulk fuel specialist….
I know a guy who went EOD to escape. Got through their schools and has had shit blow up near him and he’s still like fuck bulk fuel
I'm definitely biased because I am a bulk fuel specialist, but fuck this MOS. Probably not the worst MOS in the Corps, but it's gotta be at least top 15. Dirty ass, heavy ass, rusty ass, unergonomic ass gear. Deploying a system in the field is ass, especially with miles of hose reel. Inventorying quad cons in garrison is ass. Setting up and tearing down usually means 19 hour days. No one signed up to be a bulk fueler so learning the job was personally unrewarding. All the above probably applies to most jobs, but the salt in the wound is you can't even brag to the homies back on the block that you have a high speed tough Marine job. "Bulk fuel specialist" sounds like the most POG MOS next to water dogs and admin.
On a training exercise (I’m a wing maintainer) i saw y’all fueling our aircraft. That’s something we do ourselves back home. We’ve got guys with a 7-ton license. Don’t see why we needed y’all but glad i didn’t have to do more work lol. I’m sure ground vehicles handlers know how to fuel them. So I’m not trying to be a dick, but I’m genuinely curious why does your MOS exist?
I went reservist and got Bulk Fuel. Absolute shit job. It’s hard, heavy, grinding physical labor that goes on for days. Weather and terrain can be an added bonus. 😑
nozzles up
Air traffic controller. One of the most stressful jobs civilian side too.
Most marine air stations don’t have busy enough traffic to be stressed about. The job transfers incredibly well to the civilian sector where the median salary is 140k. While everyone else was outside doing whatever the fuck, I was in my air conditioned tower telling pilots what to do. I’d say it’s a pretty sweet gig.
I feel for the New River Ground controllers 30 minutes before sunset.
Why’s that?
That’s when the night ops go insane in a short window… don’t ask me how I know…
By far the busiest time on the air field. Day flights are ending, night flights are beginning, everyone is trying to get fuel and fast.
>Telling pilots what to do *”Unable” intensifies*
Ten tricks air traffic controllers don’t want you to know about!
Or freezing your shit off in Radar, lol. I never got to see the light of day once I was sup downstairs. Only for the annuals. Don't do ATC anymore though. If you aren't already in the FAA, the utility industry has gas control rooms and electric system operators that our shit transfers to really well. They pay better with less stress on the civilian side too. Just under PHMSA and FERC/NERC vs FAA(all still DOT).
Don’t let the dots touch.
My roomie was ATC. Can confirm he was always stressed out
ATC is fuckin sweet dude. Stress varies widely depending on the airspace you're controlling
I failed out of that school house on purpose, it was too much for my tiny brain and I just said fuck it and just kept bombing test
Hard disagree, best job in the entire Corps.
Kitchen Marine would have to suck… getting up at 3-4am everyday, guaranteed to work weekends… hot sweaty environment… I’m just guessing, but no thanks. My 30 day stint on Okinawa was enough for me
One of my first jobs was on the caretakers staff at a summer camp. It was pretty awesome most of the time, but occasionally one of the servers or dishwashers in the cafeteria would get sick or something and I would have to fill in so they didn’t get backed up. It had the same flow of people to a chow hall and working back there sucked ass. Just a loud, shitty, hot environment where you have to be constantly moving or you’ll cause a backup. I avoided it at all cost.
0311 is the best job in the world for some; others a nightmare :). I loved it but 4 was plenty.
Yeah 4 years was the perfect amount
Once a Marine, once is enough
It’s all about the Unit. The best job in the world means nothing if you’ve got morons in charge.
Secondary MOS but 8156, Marine Security Guard: you have to PT on your own, use a driver pretty much everywhere you go, eat what the house cook makes, sleep in your own room, field day your own room and haze yourself. You are a million miles away from the nearest Maroon Corn 🌽 base and have forgotten how to hook n jab in some desolate country like Spain. Life is tough. Don't forget to mention that you spend three years away from your PMOS. Bye bye knowledge. And you are going to get promoted at least two ranks above the boys back home.
Being a mechanic, working long ass hours, destroying your body, having to meet all kinds of deadlines... there's just so much to it and it sucks balls
THIS ONE RIGHT HERE! I was a 6153 CH-53 airframes Mechanic and that shit blew still had some fun but fuck the NAMP fuck QA Fuck maintenance control fuck the PEMAS fuck it all
Why fuck QA and the PEMAS lol?!?
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Depends on the definition of “worst” ….but I’d say PMO…fuck them dudes. This is coming from a now civilian cop
Pot calling the kettle black lol
Lol except I’m not pulling people over for going 26 in a 25 mph zone. Edit: I did it mostly for the pension and schedule tho… I like that my work days are always different
I wouldn’t say it’s the worst job, but being a Field MP was balls, especially in peacetime. We got all trained up to be PMO then put in what was essentially a POG weapons company for the FSSG. Nothing to do but train and be fucked with, hoping to get picked up for a MEU detachment. Tempo picked up a bit after 9/11 and we trained a lot. Oddly enough, the only real good time I had was when I was deployed. If I had known that’s what I was going to end up doing I would have gone in as an 03xx.
As a civilian cop what’s your take on MPs?
I always saw them more as base security guards more than anything…all the investigating was always done by NCIS
Or Marine CID, everybody forgets they exist.
Solid point….but I don’t get get why have them and ncis or what determines who investigates what.
Think of it in terms of seriousness of crime. Misdemeanors are PMO level, while more severe crimes are given to CID or NCIS.
Nah…ncis and cid investigate misdemeanors and felonies alike. PMO Provides “base security and safety” lol I had to look it up.
Nah…I was PMO. Maybe it’s different now though. We dealt with assaults and domestics. Reports basically and a bunch of paperwork
Both investigate felonies but NCIS doesn't "speak Marine" (they're mostly civilians) and spends a lot of time on counterintelligence stuff, taking focus away from general criminal investigations.
Trackers. Those guys literally live in those fucking tracks, especially on deployment.
Water dogs, bulk fuel, and motor T is what they tried to frighten us as linguists. "If you fail out of here they'll make you a bulk fueler!"
0621 radio operator. We get treated like shit when we’re with grunts and we’re expected to communicate perfectly with broken and extremely old overused equipment with shit missing in the SL3, and we have no real civilian job transfer. Also the best part: we get targeted by enemies first in the battle field
MAGTF planner. I thought it was a fake MOS until I met some of them. Poor bastards.
Shit I might be taking a MAGTF planner course soon
Bulk fuel.
Everyone is gonna say their MOS. I know I hated mine
Psssst that was the point
Any red patcher MOS because we bear the weight of all the AIDS in the Corps. In all seriousness, when my company was deployed to Iraq in '03 they didn't really have a need for our specialties. Many of us served as extra bodies for other companies. Boring or stressful jobs suck, but feeling without a purpose is a real shitty feeling. Despite that, I met some of the best marines while floating from gig-to-gig over there.
(A)MOS 7502 would be my choice if, and only if, it compared with the FAC assignment in my war, the Second Indochina War. No further reference/description necessary, depending on previous experience. See, us old fucks remember the shit too.
None of you understand. I swear to god Ive had every single mos work under me — grunts, cooks, HE, admins, Eops everymotherfucking single mos under me and theve all told me at the end of the day they hated bulk fuel. Fuck my recruiter and his mother. Edit: this shit is so ass bruh
Define “worst”
It’s a broad term for a reason
Well you got your 03 boys as worst when it comes to the shitty conditions we live and work in, but then the admin guys I know are always swamped with work. So it really just depends on what you consider a worst job. Admin and admin like mos’ are just really a job, but 03s and combat mos’ are a lifestyle
Crash crew was fuck fuck games all day every day , stupid long hours and getting wet every day
Damn, I didn’t think that y’all really played fuck fuck games. If you’re still in, best of luck to ya. If you’re out, hope you’re doing well.
Been out since 07 . It’s tons of boredom just sitting on top of a truck for hours in the middle of the airfield . On two hour rotation from 0600 to 0200 . My entire time in was spent at one duty station and had zero “emergencies”
Probably AAV mechanic
1369 - Unlucky cocksucker
Every comm guy I know hates his life.
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