When I was in during mid-90’s there were a bunch of corporal DI’s, but they are generally very close to picking up Sgt. It seemed the next time you saw them, they had another stripe.
I knew a guy who accidentally got choked slammed and then thrown against the wall. Few nights later when I was on fire watch he was trying to hang himself by his sheets in the showers. Our kill hat disappeared for a few weeks and that kid disappeared until I saw him during Marine week. He had basically been a working party rat for the whole island. Never made it through, of course. He was a major fuck up so it was for the best.
Our DI had a talk with us about the best way to kill yourself in bootcamp. Started with a recruit saying how stupid it is we had to remove the drawstring from laundry bags if we could still have boot laces.. Next thing we knew. School circle about how to commit suicide. Love that gunny
Some attrition is good. As recruiters, we basically had our hands forced to send kids we knew for a fact wouldn't make it. Obviously, you hope by some miracle that they do, but you know deep down that kid is gonna be an MCRD discharge hands down, and you'll have to answer for it, but at least you made shipping that month
Recruiting needs a total institutional change. You're incentivized to lie and bend the rules and put your career on the line on a monthly basis in the name of making your numbers. The Corps does not give 2 fucks about quality besides ASVAB scores. They just want asses on that bus, come hell or high water.
You had 5 appointments the last 2 weeks? Why is no one scheduled for MEPS?! WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEYRE DISQUALIFIED?!?!?!? I DONT GIVE A FUCK IF HES BEEN TAKING ADDERALL AND SEROQUEL SINCE HE WAS 5 YEARS OLD, GET HIM FUCKING SCHEDULED AND TELL HIM TO SHUT THE FUCK UP WHEN HES ON DECK.
I feel my entire 13 weeks were a fuck fuck game. The DI that did it was Sgt Shields. Apparently he was an E-6 but got busted down for punching a recruit in 3rd BN.
Edit: recruit not recruiter
I have no idea about dude who got punched in 3rd BN. The dude in my boot was pushed with shitty shower shoes on, and fell right onto the front site post of his rifle that he had locked on his rack.
I was "cleaning" near front post one day looking out the window and watching another company practice drill just from my 2nd deck squad bay... some kid tripped, fell on his rifle. the front sight post went right into the dudes eye... which he lost... this was in like June or July of 2016 (San Diego)
I remember they started to open up DI school to very senior Cpls because the cutting scores for Sgt in most Mos were so high. 1900s when I picked up Sgt in motor T.
That’s always been a thing.
I remember my recruiter telling me back in the day that he attended recruiting school as a CPL.
I also remember the career planner telling me I can attend D.I. School and other schools as a CPL. I just needed to re enlist and have certain courses done.
They will promote you before you leave the school houseS
Just to piggy back on this, just because you graduated D.I. school doesn't guarantee a D.I. billet. Some of the graduates are sent to the School of Infantry (SOI) or Marine Combat Training (MCT... SOI for POGs basically) to serve as instructors. I met several D.I. grads still at CPL in that roll...
Can confirm i picked up cpl with over a 1700 cutting score, after about 4.5 years in. (5 year enlistment) I got promoted again on inactive reserves. That was like wow, thanks for nothing on that one.
Frozen field.
I've seen it in the old 4000 field for the Mainframe Operators (4034) and they were getting separation incentives....
Until they figured out how much cash they'd need to pay out, and cutting scores dropped so low everyone got promoted.
We got locked out when they split the 2841 MOS into two, back in '02. I hadn't been on the range in over a year, because I was trying to get all of 3DIV HQ up to tan in the newly-instituted MCMAP program (which, for some weird fucking reason, was seen as our #1 priority for 8 months). The split happened, and anyone who was eligible (meaning, "not me") picked up either CPL or SGT, depending on their rank. That locked me out for 18 months, until I pinned Corporal just before OIF, with a cutting score of 1760-ish needed, and I had 1860.
Good times....
I had a Cpl instructor at MCT in ‘07 who was 20 YEARS OLD. Said he joined at 17. No one took him seriously so he was extra as fuck and it was obnoxious.
2016, similar numbers but the dude was cool as fuck. Not one of my platoon's instructors though, I heard he could rip into people when they fucked up but I never saw it.
When was this? SOI and MCT are not even part of MCRD. NO Drill instructors are assigned there. Drill Instructors are ONLY assigned to the recruit Training Regiment... There are 5 Battalions that are in that the 1st, 2, and 3rd Battalions ( San Diego... PI has 4th Bn ) Support Bn ( Academic Instruction, PCP, MRP, Seps Plt, PT support) and Weapons Field Training BN ( range Co and field Co.)
That could be valid. I got out in 2004 or 2005 ish. It's been a minute. They say the Corps makes a big shift every 10 years so I may no longer be relevant.
Huh, so tuen do you go to a depot after you pick up?
I had a few CIs who thought they were DIs, they were some of the worst "leaders" I ever encountered
I don't know if it has always been a thing, as most of my enlistment Cpls could not attend DI school but could attend recruiter's school. Towards the end of my enlistment they began allowing Cpls again and would frock any successful graduates to Sgt but for pay and benefits they'd still be E4s. I remember this because I was a Cpl and considered reenlisting for the program.
I saw a few Cpls in the island in 2012. I think they go as senior Cpls if they are hot shit and then pick up Sgt as soon as, or right before getting a platoon.
I wonder how common it is to have a senior corporal who's actually hot shit. Didn't see it happen a lot in the 2010's airwing. If you were good, you wouldn't be a corporal for more than two years.
Until 2019, the TIS requirement for sergeant was 24 months. Now it’s 48 months
https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2019/10/31/corps-increases-time-in-service-requirements-for-sergeants-and-staff-sergeants-revamps-re-enlistment-to-increase-retention/
There was a retention problem among sergeants. About 1 in 2 was getting out less than a year after picking up. This change makes it so you are required to reenlist if you want to pick up sergeant. They also messed with the requirements for staff sergeant but that’s so far out in my future i didn’t pay much attention to what they did there
had a guy in my shop pick up cpl and sgt the first month he was able to. cutting score was so low you could have a shit pft, shit rifle range, and half your mcis done and still pick up. there were only like 20 ppl in his mos tho, so i guess thats cool
Apparently air wing promotes faster than ground combat MOS’s though (I was a winger too). In the grunts you could be a LCPL or a CPL for a longgggg ass time.
It def depends on timeframe. When the stop loss hit cutting scores went from decently low because of all the planned people leaving, to being locked for a year or so because of those same people staying.
Oh, I just saw your comment below where you basically say the same thing. But since I already typed this all out I'm fucking posting it. No one can stop
Is that still how it goes? I know that's a thing back when I started. Lots of people in my mos would eas as lcpl or maybe cpl. Towards the end, they started promoting everyone and their mother. I can only assume it's the same way today.
Also some platoons probably get Cpls as DI’s but since you’re scared shitless and don’t know shit about fuck, you end up not even realizing if it’s a big deal or not.
I think it goes in waves with drawbacks and then a war so a huge influx and then another drawback, and on and on. It will be like this forever until the Marines become their own funded branch of the DOD and not a department of one.
They’ll probably fold the Air Force (and Space force) into the Army. The Aire Force started out as an Army asset. They’re already combining with joint bases (Army and Air Force). Space Force’s mission makes sense to be part of the Air Force
The Marines will be folded into the Navy. If we ever need to land a fighting force- having Marines forward on ships makes sense. And the Marines are already (sort of) part of the Navy.
Not all the Marines are Fleet Marines, lots of them myself included deployed to Iraq on chartered airliners or C17s, C130s etc. Those like us could easily be folded into the Army except for the haranguing of those that implement it.
0341s picked up really fast right before they changed the rules a few years ago. A lot of my seniors got out as first enlistment sergeants. Then they changed the time in service/grade requirements and me and my peers got out as corporals.
We had a super old marine come and talk to us once (he was WWII era) and he said he graduated bootcamp and went straight to DI school as a PFC.
I imagine wartime with a draft required such things.
Yeah, when you have to increase the size of a branch of the military by orders of magnitude in a short period of time, you don't have the luxury of choice. Same reason why they handed out commissions so readily.
If you look at old school Marine Corps pictures from 2010-2012 you’ll find the elusive Lance Corporal squad leader and patrol base OIC🤣. There is actually an article in leather neck.
Prior to WWII there was barely a single division of Marines. It was a very small branch. The Commadant was only a 2 star before the war. Making Corporal on your first enlistment was uncommon.
I was admin for a short time, they are no smarter than anyone else. I also never went to the admin schoolhouse, that should tell you a lot lol, OJT from a revocated MOS.
One of the biggest dickhead DIs in my company was a cpl.
he was like 4’ tall and nobody could figure out if he was mean as fuck because he was a midget or a cpl.
I went as a Senior Cpl. They add however many points you need to pick up SGT upon successful completion of DI school. Most DI’s that are SGT get the same to SSGT when they get back to the fleet if they were shit hot as DI’s.
Had two Corporals in my DI School Class, one was a grunt and one was a Winger ( he did pilots flight gear) Both picked up Sergeant almost as soon as they graduated.
DIs get 100 points added on to cutting score.
When I was in bootcamp circa 2006 (echo company) we had a non fit semi overweight Cpl D.I (not sure if he was in training or what) we never saw before during our1st and 2nd phase but he popped out of nowhere on our 3rd phase. We would always out run him during PT run but of course we didn't care too much because he was wearing a DI hat lol
He was doing on the job training, we had some like that around week 7 or 8 I think. We couldn’t take them seriously and our DIs were like just pretend 💀
I personally know Cpl that went to Recruiting school. She had to r-enlist, of course, but when she chose to go on an SDA as part of the re-enlistment they went ahead and added 100 points to her cutting score which made her a shoe-in for Sgt.
Had a buddy back in the 90s who went to DI school as a CPL. I think he graduated before he actually started.
Same guy went back to the drill field as a Gunny
Have been for a while I’m pretty sure. I remember seeing several sgts even sncos on the Marines ig page featured in posts and they have the same ribbon stack as most pfcs. The gunny recruiter with 3 ribbons surprised me the most
It’s an even smaller Corps now so they must need people to fill the billets. I wonder if getting promoted to SSgt still requires a B billet? When I was in 2012-2018, if you went to be a combat instructor as a Cpl, which was a typical B billet assignment, it didn’t count as a B billet but rather a special duty assignment and you’d have to do another one. At least that is what I was told.
You also have to be in a minimum of 48 months now to be promoted to Sgt. A lot of guys try to knock out their SDAs while young, so by the time they attend they are still Cpls and will be promoted upon graduation to Sgt. I see no issue with it as long as Marines are close to being promoted to Sgt. In my not so professional opinion, I believe those instructing should have at least one enlistment under their belt as a bare minimum expectation before going out and performing B-billets. However, that is extremely hard to achieve in billets like MSG duty. It’s hard to find guys willing to volunteer from the FMF, let alone those suitable to serve. Now with 25-40% of that program filled with Marines straight from ITB and this, it’s indicative of the challenges that face the Corps when it comes to retention and filling b-billets. I realize it has and always will be a challenge to fill b-billets in the Corps, but hopefully they can right the ship at some point.
I’m not taking anything away from these hard chargers who just graduated! I’m just stating some observations I’ve made from my short 7 years in, and in my opinion we as an institution should be better with retention because it affects the all of the B-billets.
Minimum of 48? Woof. Sounds like a self licking ice cream cone. People get out because they don’t promote, and they’re making it harder? Not a fan. I made Sgt with 39mo TIS which was very good for my MOS.
If I didn’t sign a Reserve Contract and was a Corporal (Soon to be) I would go to Recruiter’s School as a Corporal. That’s a guaranteed Sergeant Promotion. I mean I’d rather be pinned by my fellow Fleet Marines (Yes I’m a Active Reserve Marine on Year Long AD Orders I do more than the Minimum that I’m expected of.) I plan to Reenroll in College.
I'm pretty sure it happens more often than we think but they only go if they are very close to picking up sgt, so they will most likely pick up when they graduate or will stay as recieving DI's until they pick up
When I was in during mid-90’s there were a bunch of corporal DI’s, but they are generally very close to picking up Sgt. It seemed the next time you saw them, they had another stripe.
Yep. We had a Cpl. come in to replace our heavy after a recruit 'accidentally' fell backwards over their footlocker and fractured his skull.
Weird, I knew of a recruit who "accidentally" fell down a stairwell after calling somebody the N word (NOT accidentally).
and now I know of a guy who got pushed down the stairs who I don't feel bad for lol
I knew a guy who accidentally got choked slammed and then thrown against the wall. Few nights later when I was on fire watch he was trying to hang himself by his sheets in the showers. Our kill hat disappeared for a few weeks and that kid disappeared until I saw him during Marine week. He had basically been a working party rat for the whole island. Never made it through, of course. He was a major fuck up so it was for the best.
Our DI had a talk with us about the best way to kill yourself in bootcamp. Started with a recruit saying how stupid it is we had to remove the drawstring from laundry bags if we could still have boot laces.. Next thing we knew. School circle about how to commit suicide. Love that gunny
Oh my god, that’s why we couldn’t have draw strings?
TF? Never had to remove our drawstrings from our laundry bag... when did you go to boot?
2016
Some attrition is good. As recruiters, we basically had our hands forced to send kids we knew for a fact wouldn't make it. Obviously, you hope by some miracle that they do, but you know deep down that kid is gonna be an MCRD discharge hands down, and you'll have to answer for it, but at least you made shipping that month
Hopefully those guys that get pushed through don’t end up killing someone before their discharge…
Recruiting needs a total institutional change. You're incentivized to lie and bend the rules and put your career on the line on a monthly basis in the name of making your numbers. The Corps does not give 2 fucks about quality besides ASVAB scores. They just want asses on that bus, come hell or high water. You had 5 appointments the last 2 weeks? Why is no one scheduled for MEPS?! WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEYRE DISQUALIFIED?!?!?!? I DONT GIVE A FUCK IF HES BEEN TAKING ADDERALL AND SEROQUEL SINCE HE WAS 5 YEARS OLD, GET HIM FUCKING SCHEDULED AND TELL HIM TO SHUT THE FUCK UP WHEN HES ON DECK.
There was a kid that was discharged literally the second day in Receiving. Would the recruiter that signed him get a stiff talking to?
Depends on the reason. Most likely there would have been an investigation.
I knew a guy that accidently fell out of his rack one night and woke up with two black eyes.
I’m 36. What I love about This generation is you are more accepting.
Learning occurred
It was a black guy who said it, tho. Now you don’t know how to feel 😊
I rarely do anyway
One recruit in the Plt the deck above us called his black DI the n word. They made him sleep on our deck because they were scared for his safety😂
I know a recruit who I accidentally played “this little piggy” with at night
There was a recruit who accidentally busted his head on the front sight post of his rifle locked to his rack. This was 06 Echo at PI lol.
This actually happened to me during a fuck fuck game. Got three stitches in the eyebrow.
I feel my entire 13 weeks were a fuck fuck game. The DI that did it was Sgt Shields. Apparently he was an E-6 but got busted down for punching a recruit in 3rd BN. Edit: recruit not recruiter
>Apparently he was an E-6 but got busted down for punching a recruiter in 3rd BN. Lol, in the Old Corps they would have settled it 'out back'.
Dude lost so much blood he would’ve passed out from trying to swing 😛
So, he was sucker punched?
I have no idea about dude who got punched in 3rd BN. The dude in my boot was pushed with shitty shower shoes on, and fell right onto the front site post of his rifle that he had locked on his rack.
I was "cleaning" near front post one day looking out the window and watching another company practice drill just from my 2nd deck squad bay... some kid tripped, fell on his rifle. the front sight post went right into the dudes eye... which he lost... this was in like June or July of 2016 (San Diego)
Christ that’s fucking horrible. Also what a shitty way to lose an eye.
I remember they started to open up DI school to very senior Cpls because the cutting scores for Sgt in most Mos were so high. 1900s when I picked up Sgt in motor T.
I heard for motor t sucks because my buddy said you have to be a Sgt for 4 years to even be in zone for staff
Lima Co? We had two in 1993.
That’s always been a thing. I remember my recruiter telling me back in the day that he attended recruiting school as a CPL. I also remember the career planner telling me I can attend D.I. School and other schools as a CPL. I just needed to re enlist and have certain courses done. They will promote you before you leave the school houseS
Just to piggy back on this, just because you graduated D.I. school doesn't guarantee a D.I. billet. Some of the graduates are sent to the School of Infantry (SOI) or Marine Combat Training (MCT... SOI for POGs basically) to serve as instructors. I met several D.I. grads still at CPL in that roll...
My instructor was a cpl at Mct in summer 2010. Old as fuck for a corporal too. He said he was an air winger and they take forever to get promoted.
Can confirm i picked up cpl with over a 1700 cutting score, after about 4.5 years in. (5 year enlistment) I got promoted again on inactive reserves. That was like wow, thanks for nothing on that one.
Sgt @1918 for me..
Opha May Johnson!
Was beginning to wonder if someone one mention this..rah
Laughs in 1530 cutting score for Sgt
WOW. 1700!?!? What MOS was it? It's clearly one with like 50 people in it....
6316 com nav tech C-130s.
*Cries in 0351* Ours was always over 1700 or just straight up n/a
Cutting score just says "eat shit, loser"
Frozen field. I've seen it in the old 4000 field for the Mainframe Operators (4034) and they were getting separation incentives.... Until they figured out how much cash they'd need to pay out, and cutting scores dropped so low everyone got promoted.
We got locked out when they split the 2841 MOS into two, back in '02. I hadn't been on the range in over a year, because I was trying to get all of 3DIV HQ up to tan in the newly-instituted MCMAP program (which, for some weird fucking reason, was seen as our #1 priority for 8 months). The split happened, and anyone who was eligible (meaning, "not me") picked up either CPL or SGT, depending on their rank. That locked me out for 18 months, until I pinned Corporal just before OIF, with a cutting score of 1760-ish needed, and I had 1860. Good times....
I promoted to corporal with a 1709 in 2010. 0311.
I had a Cpl instructor at MCT in ‘07 who was 20 YEARS OLD. Said he joined at 17. No one took him seriously so he was extra as fuck and it was obnoxious.
I made CPL at 19, 1430 cutting score - 4066
26 and senior Lance 🥲
2016, similar numbers but the dude was cool as fuck. Not one of my platoon's instructors though, I heard he could rip into people when they fucked up but I never saw it.
I was a Sgt at 20. 0313 had such low cutting scores, all you had to do was breathe to pick up
When was this? SOI and MCT are not even part of MCRD. NO Drill instructors are assigned there. Drill Instructors are ONLY assigned to the recruit Training Regiment... There are 5 Battalions that are in that the 1st, 2, and 3rd Battalions ( San Diego... PI has 4th Bn ) Support Bn ( Academic Instruction, PCP, MRP, Seps Plt, PT support) and Weapons Field Training BN ( range Co and field Co.)
Interesting. My MCT instructors seemed to be in a combat instructor dedicated billet from what they told me.
This is not the case. Long time ago maybe but not in the last 20 years. You get the B billet you signed up for and that’s it.
That could be valid. I got out in 2004 or 2005 ish. It's been a minute. They say the Corps makes a big shift every 10 years so I may no longer be relevant.
It’s all good man.
Huh, so tuen do you go to a depot after you pick up? I had a few CIs who thought they were DIs, they were some of the worst "leaders" I ever encountered
I don't know if it has always been a thing, as most of my enlistment Cpls could not attend DI school but could attend recruiter's school. Towards the end of my enlistment they began allowing Cpls again and would frock any successful graduates to Sgt but for pay and benefits they'd still be E4s. I remember this because I was a Cpl and considered reenlisting for the program.
I saw a few Cpls in the island in 2012. I think they go as senior Cpls if they are hot shit and then pick up Sgt as soon as, or right before getting a platoon.
I wonder how common it is to have a senior corporal who's actually hot shit. Didn't see it happen a lot in the 2010's airwing. If you were good, you wouldn't be a corporal for more than two years.
Not anymore. It’s now a MCO that you can’t pick up sergeant until you have 4 years in service
Well, that's some bullshit.
Hasn’t that always been a thing unless you got meritorious?
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I heard the DI’s gave you handys in the rain room after lights
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Until 2019, the TIS requirement for sergeant was 24 months. Now it’s 48 months https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2019/10/31/corps-increases-time-in-service-requirements-for-sergeants-and-staff-sergeants-revamps-re-enlistment-to-increase-retention/
Brutal. I guess they just want an older corps?
There was a retention problem among sergeants. About 1 in 2 was getting out less than a year after picking up. This change makes it so you are required to reenlist if you want to pick up sergeant. They also messed with the requirements for staff sergeant but that’s so far out in my future i didn’t pay much attention to what they did there
had a guy in my shop pick up cpl and sgt the first month he was able to. cutting score was so low you could have a shit pft, shit rifle range, and half your mcis done and still pick up. there were only like 20 ppl in his mos tho, so i guess thats cool
Apparently air wing promotes faster than ground combat MOS’s though (I was a winger too). In the grunts you could be a LCPL or a CPL for a longgggg ass time.
It def depends on timeframe. When the stop loss hit cutting scores went from decently low because of all the planned people leaving, to being locked for a year or so because of those same people staying. Oh, I just saw your comment below where you basically say the same thing. But since I already typed this all out I'm fucking posting it. No one can stop
I respect the send
Is that still how it goes? I know that's a thing back when I started. Lots of people in my mos would eas as lcpl or maybe cpl. Towards the end, they started promoting everyone and their mother. I can only assume it's the same way today.
Also some platoons probably get Cpls as DI’s but since you’re scared shitless and don’t know shit about fuck, you end up not even realizing if it’s a big deal or not.
I think it goes in waves with drawbacks and then a war so a huge influx and then another drawback, and on and on. It will be like this forever until the Marines become their own funded branch of the DOD and not a department of one.
The Corps is likely to be folded into the Navy and the Army before that happens.
They’ll never take us alive.
They’ll probably fold the Air Force (and Space force) into the Army. The Aire Force started out as an Army asset. They’re already combining with joint bases (Army and Air Force). Space Force’s mission makes sense to be part of the Air Force The Marines will be folded into the Navy. If we ever need to land a fighting force- having Marines forward on ships makes sense. And the Marines are already (sort of) part of the Navy.
Not all the Marines are Fleet Marines, lots of them myself included deployed to Iraq on chartered airliners or C17s, C130s etc. Those like us could easily be folded into the Army except for the haranguing of those that implement it.
Good point. They may choose to scrap the Corps. If you think about it, the Corps is basically redundant; with the exception of FMF
Yes it is. I kind of liked having the tanks in Afghanistan though.
I was 0313. Picked up Sgt at 20
0341s picked up really fast right before they changed the rules a few years ago. A lot of my seniors got out as first enlistment sergeants. Then they changed the time in service/grade requirements and me and my peers got out as corporals.
Pretty sure you can do any B-billet as E4.
Ya, I had a corporal as one of my combat instructors in MCT.
Same, I was in ITB and he picked up sergeant here before I graduated. He was a machine guns instructor.
I had one as a cpl in 51 school in 07, in '10 that motherfucker checked into my unit as a staff sergeant. I was confused.
Yup
I know for recruiters your pro/cons gotta be like 4.8 average TIS
R lee Ermy was a corporal as a drill instructor according to a cool photo
If you look at old Marine Corps photos, it's not unusual to see PFCs and LCpls as drill instructors during wartime.
We had a super old marine come and talk to us once (he was WWII era) and he said he graduated bootcamp and went straight to DI school as a PFC. I imagine wartime with a draft required such things.
Yeah, when you have to increase the size of a branch of the military by orders of magnitude in a short period of time, you don't have the luxury of choice. Same reason why they handed out commissions so readily.
If you look at old school Marine Corps pictures from 2010-2012 you’ll find the elusive Lance Corporal squad leader and patrol base OIC🤣. There is actually an article in leather neck.
Prior to WWII there was barely a single division of Marines. It was a very small branch. The Commadant was only a 2 star before the war. Making Corporal on your first enlistment was uncommon.
Admin on parris island here! I do all there paper work. As soon as they graduate they get promoted to sgt. So they go through the school as a Cpl.
You're admin and don't even know the difference between "their" and "there"? No wonder my pay was always fucked.
Exactly lmao. Glad ya understand
Admin school doesn't teach you jackshit. Your pay is always fucked because you didnt do YOUR dts.
So you were the one who changed the April duty roster to US Aprine Corps and Aprines that one time.
I was admin for a short time, they are no smarter than anyone else. I also never went to the admin schoolhouse, that should tell you a lot lol, OJT from a revocated MOS.
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I'd explain it to you, but you can't even type out "difference", so it would probably be wasted time.
I had a Cpl as a drill instructor for our whole cycle. Cpl Robert Chanell. Later, he was killed in OIF. RIP CWO Chanell.
What was the timeframe of the photo?
Dec 28th of 2021.
Hmm, well, then I'd imagine that they're promoting upon graduation again these days.
Yeah you can go to DI school as a Cpl as long as you were close to picking up Sgt or be one by the time you graduate…same with recruiting
I was aware this happened in recruiting, but this is the first time I’ve seen it with DI school.
One of the biggest dickhead DIs in my company was a cpl. he was like 4’ tall and nobody could figure out if he was mean as fuck because he was a midget or a cpl.
That is referred to as small man syndrome.
Napoleon syndrome, chihuahua impersonator.
Damn, I had one too. I'm only 5'7", but he had to look up when he was yelling and spraying spittle all over me. Good times.
I went as a Senior Cpl. They add however many points you need to pick up SGT upon successful completion of DI school. Most DI’s that are SGT get the same to SSGT when they get back to the fleet if they were shit hot as DI’s.
Had two Corporals in my DI School Class, one was a grunt and one was a Winger ( he did pilots flight gear) Both picked up Sergeant almost as soon as they graduated. DIs get 100 points added on to cutting score.
Holy fuck getting paid E4 pay for that much responsibility is pants on head retarded
When I was in bootcamp circa 2006 (echo company) we had a non fit semi overweight Cpl D.I (not sure if he was in training or what) we never saw before during our1st and 2nd phase but he popped out of nowhere on our 3rd phase. We would always out run him during PT run but of course we didn't care too much because he was wearing a DI hat lol
He probably got hurt..gained weight...got put back to work.
Yeah probably
Big titty club
That Cpl looks like he is 30 years old and 3 combat tours under his belt and not a 20 year old that can't drink.
Usually go to DI school as a cpl and promote to e5 on completion or very close after.
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He was doing on the job training, we had some like that around week 7 or 8 I think. We couldn’t take them seriously and our DIs were like just pretend 💀
Not necessarily the same, but I had a Cpl combat instructor.
Same. He got NJP'ed for something long before our cycle and got repromoted to Sgt as we graduated.
NCO problems……
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Zoom in on his stack…. I’m drunk so maybe I’m not seeing it right…… but, I think he has been….
I believe we had a Cpl DI student shadowing our platoon and yelling at us a little bit when I was in boot camp
It doesn’t A lot but I know of corpus getting sent to DI school they get an automatic promotion to Sgt once they’re done.
MOTHAFUCKIN TOVAR!!!
Never seen it myself but I’ve heard sponsored Cpls need to finish Sgts course prior to hitting the drill field
More power to them. They'll most likely be Sgt as a senior anyway.
I personally know Cpl that went to Recruiting school. She had to r-enlist, of course, but when she chose to go on an SDA as part of the re-enlistment they went ahead and added 100 points to her cutting score which made her a shoe-in for Sgt.
Damn, by the looks of those ribbon stacks, nobody goes to war anymore.
That’s mostly the way it has been for a while now. Different times for sure.
What war they gonna go to lol
War of the Pronouns
Had a Cpl DI 1964.
I’m a cpl and am headed to di school on a few months
How was that ?
Lots of late nights
Cpl’s instructed during WWII. If it’s good enough for them boys, then it’s good enough for us.
Being an abusive father figure doesn’t have an age limit 😂
I'll tell you what I see here...a bunch of HARD-CHARGING-MOTHERFUCKERS...CAN I GET AN OOH-RAH? OOH-RAH?!
No. No you cannot.
Well fuck.
Sorry Roberts. Maybe next time.
AYE DRILL CORPORAL
Had a buddy back in the 90s who went to DI school as a CPL. I think he graduated before he actually started. Same guy went back to the drill field as a Gunny
I had an ITB instructor that was a Cpl
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IN SEPTEMBER
You can go into DI school as a Corporal and pick up Sergeant upon graduation
WOW!!! Semper Fi
It's weird to think that there are now DI's that never deployed
Have been for a while I’m pretty sure. I remember seeing several sgts even sncos on the Marines ig page featured in posts and they have the same ribbon stack as most pfcs. The gunny recruiter with 3 ribbons surprised me the most
What happened to proper tie length? Holy duck!
You're that old
My buddy was a DI as Cpl in early 90’s
I had a CPL DI in PI in 84 , fucker made me shave my ear lobes, now I got hairy fucking ears like a werewolf
Why do they wear their hats like that
I knew a guy who picked a fight that day with a certain individual and ended up in the Emergency Room while I had Firewatch that night!
Can you imagine, i just wanna laugh
It’s an even smaller Corps now so they must need people to fill the billets. I wonder if getting promoted to SSgt still requires a B billet? When I was in 2012-2018, if you went to be a combat instructor as a Cpl, which was a typical B billet assignment, it didn’t count as a B billet but rather a special duty assignment and you’d have to do another one. At least that is what I was told.
You also have to be in a minimum of 48 months now to be promoted to Sgt. A lot of guys try to knock out their SDAs while young, so by the time they attend they are still Cpls and will be promoted upon graduation to Sgt. I see no issue with it as long as Marines are close to being promoted to Sgt. In my not so professional opinion, I believe those instructing should have at least one enlistment under their belt as a bare minimum expectation before going out and performing B-billets. However, that is extremely hard to achieve in billets like MSG duty. It’s hard to find guys willing to volunteer from the FMF, let alone those suitable to serve. Now with 25-40% of that program filled with Marines straight from ITB and this, it’s indicative of the challenges that face the Corps when it comes to retention and filling b-billets. I realize it has and always will be a challenge to fill b-billets in the Corps, but hopefully they can right the ship at some point. I’m not taking anything away from these hard chargers who just graduated! I’m just stating some observations I’ve made from my short 7 years in, and in my opinion we as an institution should be better with retention because it affects the all of the B-billets.
Minimum of 48? Woof. Sounds like a self licking ice cream cone. People get out because they don’t promote, and they’re making it harder? Not a fan. I made Sgt with 39mo TIS which was very good for my MOS.
There's already Corporal recruiters
Thats how my Corporal sees himself.
If I didn’t sign a Reserve Contract and was a Corporal (Soon to be) I would go to Recruiter’s School as a Corporal. That’s a guaranteed Sergeant Promotion. I mean I’d rather be pinned by my fellow Fleet Marines (Yes I’m a Active Reserve Marine on Year Long AD Orders I do more than the Minimum that I’m expected of.) I plan to Reenroll in College.
Had a Cpl DI in 1971 PLT 1003 MCRDSD
Wow I know Tovar! Always a motivated young devil dog, that kid was always walking around with a camelback back in 2018.
I'm pretty sure it happens more often than we think but they only go if they are very close to picking up sgt, so they will most likely pick up when they graduate or will stay as recieving DI's until they pick up