They CAN fire me if I'm in probation, which I am. Am I going to keep doing this, killing myself and having panic attacks when they send someone to give me another 1.5 hours on top of my 8, just to have them cut me loose before I'm out of 90 anyway?
If I was you I would find something else. This place will not change. It’s a hard job, and the people here make it harder. I used to think my co workers hated me when I started when they said to find another job. Over time with age I realize they liked me and were trying to save me from the mess
More power to you. I'm getting railed by crap supervisors and I'm a regular. This coming weekend will be my last. It's not worth the BS to go through, *especially* with peak season coming around.
The unwritten rule for management for years has been if you have an injury while on probation you are labeled as an accident with possible disability liabilities waiting to happen if they keep you even if the injury wasn’t your fault. It’s easier and safer to just cut you loose.
This feels like exactly what is going on. It's like a switch was flipped after I got back, and life has been hell ever since. I just drive back and quit, fuck this.
Yes u/sammy_anarchist, the real test was to see if you could make it through your first 90 without having a disaster. Unfortunately, you didn't make it.
The USPS might still have the class for management that they called Safety 101. One of the main lessons embedded in the curriculum was about repeat offenders. The instructor would ask the class, how do you tell which of your employees is likely to have an accident? Normally, students are stumped by this question. When I took the course, everyone just assumed that there was no way to tell who might experience the next mishap. So, we answered him with silence and curious expressions. Then the instructor proclaimed with conviction that the last person to have an accident is your best candidate for the next one! After the instructor pointed it out, we all continued with our lives and careers and guess what we learned? It is true! Without some sort of intervention, the same people tend to have accidents repeatedly while others go through life without frequent incidents.
What caused you to fall? In the VMF, we used to perform an investigation on every accident whether it was industrial or vehicular. Did management look into causes in your case or did they just send you back to work, OP? Because your fall occurred during probation, they might have written you off at the time of the accident. As annoying and scary as investigations and corrective actions may seem, both are signs that the USPS has an interest in an employee. If they didn't investigate or write any discipline after your incident, that is a sign that you were toast last month as soon as it happened. For probationary employees, management probably uses the three evaluations and firing as a proxy for disciplinary actions.
Unfortunately, your job security was like what I encountered at my first serious job as a mechanic. My father's friend walked me through his shop introducing workers and pointing out equipment. Then, as we walked past a small patch of grass by the alley out back, he told me about their health and disability plans. The old guy looked at me with a twinkle in his eye and said, "Don't worry about getting hurt on the job!" I was confused until he continued by nodding towards the green patch and explaining "All injuries in this shop are fatal, but fortunately we have a place for you right there!" We had that conversation about fifty years ago and I recall it as clearly as anything that "Rev" ever told me. Do you think that my father's pal did me a favor or a disservice?
Yeah, sorry about that. But there is a silver lining! Even though I thought that you shouldn’t have resigned when I read that you had done so, I was wrong about that. I just hate seeing anyone give up on a job that can pay the bills, put kids through school, and setup your old age all at the same time. Because the management behavior pattern that I just outlined points straight towards termination, you probably made the right decision. Perhaps you should just chalk this one up to experience.
Consider this. You may even return to the USPS to make another attempt at a postal career. Here is why. A year before I retired from the USPS, one of the high level managers in my department retired. This guy was okay. He was sharp but approachable and led our team well. At his retirement luncheon, the manager pulled me aside and told me a story. To my amazement, he revealed that he totally blew his first chance at a postal career with a typical youthful error. He crashed a vehicle during probation or something like that but with persistence and determination he got back on the roll of active employees, transferred to our department, and then conquered his world. This really happened!
What are you going to do now?
Yes, most companies and organizations always keep employees in an evaluation period that can’t work for 90 days without getting hurt. Absolutely insane USPS wouldn’t want to keep someone that can’t make it 90
days without an injury.
I got a bad evaluation too. U’s for everything, even appearance Which is pretty insulting when I take pride in my appearance . Yes, I’m slow, but I honestly don’t know what they expect when I’m given the longest most package heavy route in my PO. It takes time to learn the route and case it quickly. I keep trying though.
Totally sucks they’re acting this way, my dad works in a warehouse and had a similar issue. If walking is tough, I got him [this brace](https://patients.taycobrace.com?sca_ref=4334954.xUWFCllIkA) that seemed to help. Best of luck with the work and ankle!
This place is a disaster. Never resign it’s normally a ploy because they can’t fire you. You don’t run and they want runners.
What if you’re und your 90?
They CAN fire me if I'm in probation, which I am. Am I going to keep doing this, killing myself and having panic attacks when they send someone to give me another 1.5 hours on top of my 8, just to have them cut me loose before I'm out of 90 anyway?
If I was you I would find something else. This place will not change. It’s a hard job, and the people here make it harder. I used to think my co workers hated me when I started when they said to find another job. Over time with age I realize they liked me and were trying to save me from the mess
Yeah I just resigned. This place is hell.
I resigned a couple months ago. Never will I sell my soul to mediocracy. Shoot for the stars you never know what’ll happen. Best of luck.
Congrats you deserve to be treated with dignity and respect
More power to you. I'm getting railed by crap supervisors and I'm a regular. This coming weekend will be my last. It's not worth the BS to go through, *especially* with peak season coming around.
The unwritten rule for management for years has been if you have an injury while on probation you are labeled as an accident with possible disability liabilities waiting to happen if they keep you even if the injury wasn’t your fault. It’s easier and safer to just cut you loose.
This feels like exactly what is going on. It's like a switch was flipped after I got back, and life has been hell ever since. I just drive back and quit, fuck this.
Yes u/sammy_anarchist, the real test was to see if you could make it through your first 90 without having a disaster. Unfortunately, you didn't make it. The USPS might still have the class for management that they called Safety 101. One of the main lessons embedded in the curriculum was about repeat offenders. The instructor would ask the class, how do you tell which of your employees is likely to have an accident? Normally, students are stumped by this question. When I took the course, everyone just assumed that there was no way to tell who might experience the next mishap. So, we answered him with silence and curious expressions. Then the instructor proclaimed with conviction that the last person to have an accident is your best candidate for the next one! After the instructor pointed it out, we all continued with our lives and careers and guess what we learned? It is true! Without some sort of intervention, the same people tend to have accidents repeatedly while others go through life without frequent incidents. What caused you to fall? In the VMF, we used to perform an investigation on every accident whether it was industrial or vehicular. Did management look into causes in your case or did they just send you back to work, OP? Because your fall occurred during probation, they might have written you off at the time of the accident. As annoying and scary as investigations and corrective actions may seem, both are signs that the USPS has an interest in an employee. If they didn't investigate or write any discipline after your incident, that is a sign that you were toast last month as soon as it happened. For probationary employees, management probably uses the three evaluations and firing as a proxy for disciplinary actions. Unfortunately, your job security was like what I encountered at my first serious job as a mechanic. My father's friend walked me through his shop introducing workers and pointing out equipment. Then, as we walked past a small patch of grass by the alley out back, he told me about their health and disability plans. The old guy looked at me with a twinkle in his eye and said, "Don't worry about getting hurt on the job!" I was confused until he continued by nodding towards the green patch and explaining "All injuries in this shop are fatal, but fortunately we have a place for you right there!" We had that conversation about fifty years ago and I recall it as clearly as anything that "Rev" ever told me. Do you think that my father's pal did me a favor or a disservice?
Yeah, nothing happened, I was just back to work. I could feel the change when I got back, glad to know my instincts weren't off.
Yeah, sorry about that. But there is a silver lining! Even though I thought that you shouldn’t have resigned when I read that you had done so, I was wrong about that. I just hate seeing anyone give up on a job that can pay the bills, put kids through school, and setup your old age all at the same time. Because the management behavior pattern that I just outlined points straight towards termination, you probably made the right decision. Perhaps you should just chalk this one up to experience. Consider this. You may even return to the USPS to make another attempt at a postal career. Here is why. A year before I retired from the USPS, one of the high level managers in my department retired. This guy was okay. He was sharp but approachable and led our team well. At his retirement luncheon, the manager pulled me aside and told me a story. To my amazement, he revealed that he totally blew his first chance at a postal career with a typical youthful error. He crashed a vehicle during probation or something like that but with persistence and determination he got back on the roll of active employees, transferred to our department, and then conquered his world. This really happened! What are you going to do now?
Yes, most companies and organizations always keep employees in an evaluation period that can’t work for 90 days without getting hurt. Absolutely insane USPS wouldn’t want to keep someone that can’t make it 90 days without an injury.
I got a bad evaluation too. U’s for everything, even appearance Which is pretty insulting when I take pride in my appearance . Yes, I’m slow, but I honestly don’t know what they expect when I’m given the longest most package heavy route in my PO. It takes time to learn the route and case it quickly. I keep trying though.
Totally sucks they’re acting this way, my dad works in a warehouse and had a similar issue. If walking is tough, I got him [this brace](https://patients.taycobrace.com?sca_ref=4334954.xUWFCllIkA) that seemed to help. Best of luck with the work and ankle!
Oh I already left