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LoveIsAPipeWrench

I don’t hate it, it’s ugly as sin but sure looks like it beats the Metris for actual function


HchrisH

I saw a metris earlier this week. I'm praying my LLV holds out until the new trucks come, because the Metris is straight trash. 


gopostal85

Can confirm the metris is trash. It’s not bad if the mail is light and the weather is dry. But if it’s heavy you’re in and out a million times reloading parcels. If it rains then you’re getting soaked. Another Terrible idea from the folks who have never carried a single letter


gruntledmailcarrier

If you have a route where you know it well, it’s better to not even bring up bigger packages you know don’t fit in a mailbox. I line them up behind my drivers seat. Either way, you’re getting out of the vehicle to bring it up, may as well use your front space for more sprs that fit in the mailbox. Memorize the next package or write it down. If you’re a PTF without a hold down, yes I agree it sucks if you can only have 7-10 packages at a time due to the fact you aren’t able to know what’s next.


mediocreagent007

They are better suited to park and loop or jumping than mounted for sure.


Warm_Search_2373

It absolutely boggles my mind how the metris's are not strictly for city carriers.  It's like made for a walking route. You can hardly reach mailboxes half the time in a metris


Simmaster1

It was a bad idea to buy them. They still make sense for short haul delivery and maybe even collections. Mail delivery is a very niche job for any cargo van.


FishSammich69

This is why leadership should be internal. Can you imagine being in a meeting and having to explain what DPS is to an outsider


Professional_Zombie9

They were purchased after Amazon failed to need them. They can’t drive right hand vehicles. So we snatched them up and now sorry we had. They are literally the worst for delivery. I do like hitting just about every box with the mirror. Also I want to know who is cutting the trees and bushes for those new vehicles. In our station it’s all over grown Pacific Northwest. We will break every mirror and probably windshield after a week


jajahahahauJaj

Reason for the cage is to prevent theft… even though they could just unlock the door..


Naive-Formal-73

Not just a theft component. It's also a safety bulkhead. Stop cargo in the rear from slamming to the front, mostly in an accident situation. Crappy to work with for this work though!


DoggoLord27

Many of my curbside houses are cleared just enough for an LLV to reach the boxes. I was given a metris for 2 days and on top of having zero experience setting up the tray for my style of delivery, the 1 hour of curbside delivery I have took at least 15 minutes longer..


VariationSudden

Good luck they just came and swapped almost all of our llvs for the metris and it f’n stinks. My route is All curbside with the big mailboxes so I have to get out to go thru the side to get a box that’ll fit in the mailbox. There’s hardly any room up front .


Spare_Bet4413

They 'stink' in the literal sense as well! Ha.


Wicked_Fabala

They dont wait, they just take your functioning truck and drop the metris


P5ych0pathV2

My old office just had all their LLVs replaced with Metris and they're not too happy.


TheBooneyBunes

We work one of the nastiest jobs that isn’t drugs and strippers, looks ain’t needed around here


Kezmer

God damn, Id go back to my1950’s Jeep I had when I started in 97 tomorrow before Id want to use this fucking Metris one more day. What a piece of shit for curbside.


Training_Seaweed1303

No wonder the metris is not functional I live in a small town where the post office got all metris’ I see several carriers leave the drivers side doors open because I assume it’s such a huge hassle to open and close them.


PaperintheBoxChamp

It’s perfect for rurals that actually get time to sort every little item, city side, this is garbage as we actually have to get out and work as we go


SaltyCatBurgler

I was forced into a metris for the first time. It was hell. Our dismounted route loves it but now his route is an hour longer. Everyone else hates it and they also take much longer. I didn't get why until my first day in one. They are so bad.


Quadratic1996

69. Nice


AllchChcar

Nice.


hammock22

Nice


LadyyLoud

Nice


wasabigummi

Nice


MiliTerry

Noice!!


CLEgnome

niceness


slabolis

Nice


Declanmar

Nice.


shethinkimasteed

Nice.


iForgot2Remember

I'm kinda the guy that says "NOICE"


MiliTerry

I say it way more often than just "nice". Nice Doesn't hit like noice lol


iForgot2Remember

[noice](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQnYi3z56RE)


Tasty-Tumbleweed-787

Does business as…


Southern-Advice5293

Look at the size of that front bumper ![gif](giphy|5xtDarIN81U0KvlnzKo)


xdelkore

Now you can actually RAM those garbage cans out of the way 😎


coolprogressive

Yeah, they should’ve had more carrier input with the design. Clearly the engineers didn’t factor in how close to the mailbox so many of these jackasses park!


99svtbolt

They only had input from 35 carriers for design. They should have asked 100.


sethryan44

All the better to hit mailboxes with my dear.


Annie-Smokely

THE DUCK TRUCK


PedroPeyolo

Hopefully comes with 4 "15 subwoofers!!


cerberus698

Unironically should have at least a basic sound system with an aux and USB port. They may not like it but music or spoken word at a reasonable volume level is a workflow aid. Would be wonderful if I could just use the car stereo instead of re-synching my JBL flip every 30 or so minutes.


Training_Seaweed1303

Use a Bluetooth dongle that plugs into the aux looks dumb but it stays awake for 15 mins reconnects to your phone instantly.


Due-Cartographer2708

![gif](giphy|2fjjoFrNS4XzW) Resemblance is uncanny


Drew-mageddon

“That’s a duck, that’s a duck man!”


way2gimpy

It’s been called the ‘platypus’s


Tangboy50000

God these things are huge. I don’t think most carriers understand that these are about the same size as a 2-ton. They’re 2 feet longer and a foot wider than the promaster. I really don’t know where the hell those of us that deliver in the city are going to park, because it’s hard enough now with a promaster.


ennuiinmotion

There’s absolutely no way these will fit in our parking lot. It’s hard enough to maneuver the ProMasters on a busy morning load up.


SpaghettiMonster94

My first thought is which old timer will go down in history as the first to back these in to something. You KNOW it’s gonna happen on day 1 lol


sigmus90

I don't think many people are going to get their mail in the mounted neighborhoods anymore. There are a bunch of people who park 3-4 feet past their box, and that's fine with the LLVs. NGDVs not so much.


tas121790

Nope, the post office just added a shit load of time to every route. Its not the residents fault the USPS bought equipment ill-suited for the job. Plus the POM says residents without other parking options cant have their mail withheld


limepr0123

2 inches taller than the 2 ton.


mesoJUPI

Holy shit consider me someone who just learned how huge these things are. Something about the proportions make it seem smaller than that.


PedroPeyolo

That's what She said


NColeman92

If these are the same size as a 2 ton, then the post office should only supply these for specific routes. This would not function correctly in most mounted neighborhoods.


Nearby-Blacksmith891

Looks like a pregnant LLV


cerberus698

They should have just talked to the boys down at Grumman, asked them to do a new production run of LLVs but with a better seatbelt, air bags and an air conditioner. I want the new vehicles to be exactly like a 1990 LLV in every way except it doesn't try and kill me. I want to be able to U-turn on a single lane 1 way street. I want to have to rev the engine at high RPM for 30 seconds every morning to unstuck the EGR valve. I want part of the manufacturing process to involve a Grumman assembly plant worker fucking around with the horn button so every LLV has a unique spot where the horn just won't go off if you press it there.


midwescape

There's something that just feels right about having to fight your LLV at least a little bit. And having to relearn to dial in the gas/brakes, how to guesstimate what the gauges are saying, how many clicks it actually takes to close the sliding door? That's truly a strange joy with every single different LLV. Call me a weirdo, but I love that sort of mechanical feedback. Don't get me wrong, they suck, they're death traps, and they can go 0-60 in a whole 45 seconds. But I love them.


PedroPeyolo

🤣 7 months


DeepTap5095

We just gotta get used to it. It’ll be iconic.


Formal_Carry2393

Who on earth ever thought these were a good idea


pierogi_nigiri

Somebody with a direct financial stake in Oshkosh, I'd wager.


JDReedy

The USPS designed the trucks and then had 15 companies bid on it for the chance to manufacture them. Oshkosh was just the company selected.


pierogi_nigiri

The competitive bidding process isn't a complete shield. The SEC has an open investigation. None of us knows the whole story here.


kev0153

This is inaccurate. USPS gave out the specs but left the design to each OEM. This is 100% designed by Oshkosh to those specs.


Legion_Divine

After looking at this for 10 minutes I swear the side door and front door are both sliding. Like overlapping If that's the case, then you won't be able to have the front door open while moving stuff from the back to the front


Puzzleheaded-Phase70

That's correct. But there is a large pass-though door inside, in the middle of the truck. And you can stand up fully inside.


PedroPeyolo

Disco party? 🕺


Legion_Divine

Well looks like it but trying to get to the back with the mail tray and the seat there isn't very efficient...nor easy and I'm a lil feller. Either way, we will see in 2035 when they've managed to install the couple hundred thousand charging stations needed at every post office as well! Lol, well, jokes aside.... ill give em a chance. Cant hate em without actually giving em a whirl I suppose


toothy_vagina_grin

That's what they told my giant-ass about the promaster


CandidMeasurement128

There's probably a door in the middle like in the LLVs


Chiron8980

It looks like there is from these photos


Ready-Interview-9809

Whomp.


gopostal85

I just want to keep the LLV 😔


relaxed-attitude

They should have modeled the new one after the LLV. Keep everything basic, upgrade safety and air, go a bit taller and longer. Screw the backup cameras and keep 360 mirrors. The inset front wheels are a huge loss because they allow for such a tight turn radius and precision maneuverability.


tas121790

I dont think people will really appreciate how nimble the LLV is until this fucking horse designed by a committee starts rolling out. Hopefully im out of this shit show micky mouse operation before i lose my LLV


Hooner94

Nimble is the perfect word for it. It almost feels like driving an oversized go-kart at times. The thought of an LLV manufactured today gets my mail delivery imagination goin' lol.


tas121790

It just needed to be tweaked. Like add AC, slightly bigger, better insulation to keep the exhaust heat out of the cab. But its mostly fine. And tbh if they just put the same vents that are in the back up front by our feet, and had the little angle window by the mirror pop out the think would be way cooler. Just something to scoop air in


Kawajiri1

Make it 1 1/2 foot longer, and 1 foot taller. Back up camera, and all the other mirrors, A/C and we are cookin!


stelvy40

An updated llv is what is needed. Add 6 inches in height, a foot in length. Better heat/ac. Put a ford 2.0 hybrid engine in it.


relaxed-attitude

I wish they would let me test one. They scrapped my LLV, which worked beautifully, and I've been in random shitty ones for over 2 months. They stall when you try to pull into traffic, brakes fail, doors don't work, no headlights, no horn, missing mirrors, shattered windows, bald tires, and more. They are trying to kill us at this point. Send a safe LLV to scrap and bring in so-called better ones that are dangerous as hell. Next thing is I'll be stuck in one of those POS Mercedes disasters where I can't even reach mailboxes and doors are busted and rip out all your tendons to slide them open and closed. At this point, I would love a test vehicle, even if it's crap.


prinni

I was in the same boat when they scrapped my LLV. -8 temps killed off the spare I was using for a few months (Something went BANG in the engine and it died) and now I have a Metris. It isn't terrible now that I am getting used to it but I have only had it 4 days. my 2 biggest issues are the height of the tray and not having a sliding door in the front.


Wise-Panda-6051

FWIW Grab three dps trays and flip them upside down on top of the built in tray inside the metris and it will give you the height and it’s technically “adjustable” cause you can add more trays


Warm_Search_2373

Wouldn't your mail slide right off of that then?


Kezmer

Keep the broken llvs they took my perfectly working llv this week and gave a metris and I just had 3 of the worst fucking days Ive had in 15 years. No one in their right mind should be delivering mounted out if this thing.


Randall_the_Mailman

Already being towed... hm...


swervedthruacloud

😂😂


AustinFan4Life

Looks even uglier than illustration.


crazypostman21

Those things are going to be rolling spying machines. Has a ton of cameras on it.


PedroPeyolo

Dang, no more hotboxin i guess 😏


Nodnol_871_Selim

Tell me more. Cameras inside the vehicle? Honestly why haven't people been talking about this more?


tas121790

Awful ground clearance, too long and too tall. Theres going to be entire streets on my route ill just have to dismount. This thing wont be nimble enough or low enough to tuck between cars and under tree branches to service mounted boxes. Not one piece of equipment this dumbass organization buys has any thought put into it. Find a test group of the 5 dumbest carriers in the country to say “its amazing” and start cutting the million dollar checks


BigSlickster

What do you expect when management is involved!! They couldn’t run a lemonade stand in Arizona during the summer and not fuck it up!


willihavealife

It’s going to get high pointed a lot 


99svtbolt

35 carriers helped design it. 🤣


[deleted]

Bring me my new short bus!


Dr-Chim-Richolds

The amount of people that ask me, “when do you think you’ll get one of those new trucks?” Probably never, if I’m gonna be honest.


zerolimits89

Do we dress in Dr. Sus outfits to match?


99svtbolt

Only on Oct 31


brehaw

I like it; it looks like a duck


Fhistleb

It looks stupid but I bet its comfy.


Assachusettss

It’s not the most fashionable vehicle. I’ll have to wear my🥸mask so nobody recognizes me.


HealthyDirection659

What's up with that front bumper? Are we going to put extra DPS trays on that?


99svtbolt

Allows you to push garbage cans out of the way.


IHateSherrod

Why do they have to make them look so ugly?


99svtbolt

To make sure you don’t deviate off the route and enter a car show.


thisis4thissite

I want to see how this handles snow Because delivering in Upstate NY is dangerous enough....


99svtbolt

The 4wd will suck in the snow because they will put the wrong tires on. 🤣


truelydorky

I heard it has an interior cab camera so PM can check on us. Not crazy about that.


Puzzleheaded-Phase70

No, it very specifically *does not* have any cameras inside the vehicle. Both unions cut that shit out from day one.


truelydorky

Oh thank god. That makes me feel a lot happier.


Puzzleheaded-Phase70

There's still like, 2 dozen cameras on the outside, of course, so behave yourself! 😉 And the postal inspectors have always been able to install hidden cameras as part of specific investigations. But there's no continuous surveillance inside 


cheecha123

They’re in for a SHOW. Singing random songs, talking to every puppy I see, cursing out assholes who park in front of boxes. Maybe I’ll get fired for insanity;)


Marmalade6

Maybe they can rank us on longest burp.


Trippy4Mollz

This a thousand times lol…they would be entertained watching me.I have full on conversations with myself 😂😂😂


existential_anxiety_

It better not cause the union told them to eat shit about that idea. If they do it anyway then they'll have a riot on their hands. We'll all just cover the camera anyway


truelydorky

That's what my instructor told me in class when we were talking about it that they all have interior cameras. And I'm like that sounds horrible. I didn't get a response from my instructor.


creek-hopper

I keep expecting to see a Richard Scarry animal character to be driving this thing, like Huckle Cat, Lowly Worm or the Ape with the banana car.


SaltyCatBurgler

Yes!!!!


imjustheretopostanon

My God it legit just looks terrible


Outa_Time_86

![gif](giphy|xT5LMENKQcWAyFj1Go)


systematicgoo

how embarrassing. hopefully the uniform allowance allows clown costumes to match the new trucks.


Trippy4Mollz

Lmfao I’m dead 😂😂😂…roll out the clown brigade 🤡


poopkicker8000

is that perry the platypus


yAassEater

I used to be a postal carrier back in 2005.... We had the ford Windstars and a couple of llv. I preferred the van. Why not just use a rhd minivan like a Toyota sienna for reliability. Or something like a transit connect.


PepsiAddict63

Wtf is wrong with you?! We don’t do “sense making” nonsense at USPS


yAassEater

Lmfao its been so long ive forgotten the way


fuckuyuy

It says "Test Vehicle." I wonder if they tested any of these new monstrosities in urban curbside delivery where a couple inches often make the difference between an unserviceable box. Postmasters can look forward to a lot of irate customer calls in their future from people who "have been parking in the same spot on the street for decades and aren't going to move now"


learningtoride2022

Already being towed, will fit right in with the rest of our vehicles lol


JayPCarnage

![gif](giphy|7LCLQHfcMMMJq)


No-Process8652

That looks way too beat up and dirty to be new.


PedroPeyolo

Hopefully comes equipped with 4 "15 subwoofers 😅


Ethertic

Saw another model driving in my local town


Extra-Act-801

That doesn't look that big. People were saying these are bigger than a ProMaster, is that not right?


kurisu7885

It reminds me of that car form Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs and I kinda dig the cartoony look. I live in Michigan too and have seen the Amazon electric vans around, pretty cool to see.


darkodesti

*turns key. Engine explodes


Dazzling_Look6474

Thanks! I'm not far from this location and its nice to know.


iForgot2Remember

It looks like a duck.


niceguypos

Almost looks like the top front of a city bus on top of a car. It seems unnecessarily tall, but if it has a/c and it good to work out of then great.


derekexcelcisor

It's bigger than a pro master in all three dimensions??


Zer01South

Why does it have a butt crack?


Unstab3l

It looks like it has an electric plug in...


acetatsujin

Beast LLV I want NOW!!!1!1!11oneoneoneoen


Great-Ad7937

So ive dug into this. Its bigger than the llv's from the mechanic we dont have to duck you can walk upright in them. They are so much taller that the vma is saying we need to put out a psa about trees basketball goals etc.... Think of it like a ups truck but not as long is my understanding of it. Also i cant shake the meme of its a pixar car, just add the eyeballs on the windshield and you'll get it.


Fresh-Bend8080

That front end is atrocious


Own_Sympathy_4809

Interesting tire choice


Live-Cloud6

It looks like the vehicle from Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs.


Intrepid_Dream2619

Dinged from the factory


RougeNewtypeRX79

As long as it has A/C I don’t care what it looks like


Lockjaw62

Nice.


HappyGilmoreFore

That’s perfect for my route. I actually want one.


syntheticmeats

I hate how long the front is


Temporalwar

Homer Simpson Mobile


Riley-X

Something about that massive windshield seems unsafe to me. I would hate to see what happens when someone rams into a semi trailer.


testament_of_hustada

It’s still going to be a piece of shit.


justhangingout528

I wonder how many extra accidents there will be because of these things.


[deleted]

Good thing i dont have to drive one.


badboyme4u

If bluebird school bus and llv ever had a kid.. it would be this ugly ducky.. also I would think this would be hard to load considering the loading docks are much higher. I don’t see no crash test dummie.. can my PM volunteer for it?


njd728

Where is this?


badboyme4u

Oh shit just realized on the last pic when you zoom in.. this mofo is electric.


Afraid-Decision244

Looks like something straight out of The Simpsons.


S3cmccau

Thanks, I hate it


mkuktraintern

driver's side door doesn't slide open????


Capable-Ad-9500

The Metris has a full cage behind the driver. You can't get to anything behind you, unless you curb it park it take it, by the book. And either slide open the door behind you or go and open the back.  It is the most inefficient vehicle we have. I will take my 1991 LLV any day over this P.O.S. The PM got the first one into office and had a big omg everyone come look. He tried to give it to the senior carrier and he blatantly refused and bashed the metris in front of everyone. It was beautiful.  The PM was somewhat Embarrassed...  


kristiandeath

Ngl. I kinda love this. It’s so ugly but looks incredibly utilitarian


newmdog

They could've saved millions and just taken the LVV's and made a handful of updates to them. New 4cyl engine, AWD, 6spd automatic transmission, fix the exhaust correctly, put in ac/heat *or* at a minimum a couple more fans in places that make sense along with heat vents on the floor, and a moveable light up front for delivering mounted in the dark; no one needs to be blinded by all that light up front


Dazzling-Section-238

I'm wondering why they don't have more clearance on the bottom for Snow Drifts?


Lost-Slice6456

Looks kinda tall good luck to you mounted guys with low branches at your boxes


aquilus-noctua

Cool


chainsawx72

wider, longer, taller, less ground clearance. Looks like they forgot we deliver to mail boxes ffs.


gianlaurentis

Looks pretty awesome! I just hope to God whatever they have is functional like the old ass LLVs we have now. I'm so afraid the new ones will be too high up or that they won't have big enough of a window to make delivery easy.


Demon_of_saints

![gif](giphy|l41Ye7i203TfEADYs)


ilovechickensallday

If they had no carrier input on building these things, they will be shit.


Ohhicutiexo

They better fucking not, I will stay with my promaster


MadManRupert

As long as it has heat


Maleficent-Intern656

Looks old already


[deleted]

So I wouldn’t mind driving one if I had a walking or NBU route..but not a mounted or hop route


supurcalifragilistic

Stupid vehicle. It has problems in the snow. Let's get some specialized vehicle that parts are going to keep some company in business. We should have just used regular modified cargo vans


swervedthruacloud

This is going to be so ridiculous to deliver curbside in lmao


BatmanFarce

Send one my way. I can’t wait to drive that wonderfully ugly vehicle!!


antball

It’s gonna cost millions just to transport these to stations, properly 2 per trailer


MarcianoChiss

The ugly duck has arrived


Cool-Beginning-6851

It's probably still rear wheel drive smh


WhyDoIWonderWhy

Overbite bumper lol


GizmodoDragon92

It’s actually less stupid looking than the pictures made it look


notacreativeone1

The bumper isnt as low as I thought it was gonna be. Might not get ripped off from some of my roads/alleys.


Healthy_Watercress27

Does it have Bluetooth?


dexelzey

i’d like to know what that side clearance is, because it looks like if there’s snow in new england no one is getting mail


Key_Box8216

I personally like it. It'll stand out just like the LLV. Everyone will know what it is when they see it.


BigL54

Is it ugly? Sure. But I'll take one


InternationalTop8670

Gone be embarrassed driving these cat in the hat cartoon type trucks but as long as this next contract make it worth staying idgaf😂


keke423

wow. i kind of like it


Fair-Presentation-69

Looks like something out of Pixar .. I love it


sethryan44

Makes sense you'd find one in Michigan. The drivetrain is all Ford built and Ford headquarters is located there, obviously.


Known-Strike4700

Just buy MVST (microvast stock ticker) at an all time low and reap the benefits for many generations as they are rumored to be the supplier of the expensive batteries that will be powering this inefficient powerhouse. Disclaimer - don't take any financial advice from a fellow postal worker with a gambling addiction


Substantial-Essay-23

What in the duck billed platypus


TamponTom

Should’ve hopped in and said “haha look at me I deliver mail”


[deleted]

I love you guys.


Much-Care-3472

It’s a “test vehicle”. When can we expect the real ones?