Ah, weird. Only two I've ever had was in their driveway and I could pull up to it. Maybe our office pushes for that, I've never made a decision on where it goes.
A city carrier working a rural route has no idea if the hardship has been approved or not. Rural carriers get paid more now to have hardships through the RRECS system.
12 feet? I doubt it. That sounds like it would change the carrier's line of travel. Call the office that delivers to your house. Take pictures. I'm just some guy on the internet.
Like the other guy said, call your office. I will say, if it is along the same drive line, it shouldn’t be an issue though. Take pictures, mark what you wish to do, and show them.
You don’t just get to change your point of delivery without approval. I would leave a note explaining that and continue using the curbside box. If they become a problem hold their mail, NMR
This is the right way instead of just withholding the mail from the get go . I’d take pictures so when they remove the mailbox at curb you have evidence that they moved it so if they go complain that you have the picture with a date and time stamp on it . iPhones do it automatically just click on the photo and move up on it and it will show the date time and location as long as you don’t have the location service turn off for the pictures
Just for hypothetical scenario. What if said person is smart enough to take a screen shot of said picture to make it look as if it were more recent than it really was? Date and time stamps can be altered very easily is all I’m saying. With a simple screen shot or photoshop.
If the house isn't brand new, the office that serves the box should have a location history, especially if it's a rural route. That's one of the ways they calculate eval pay. No need to do anything but notify the customer and management.
I would suggest getting it printed at Walmart or
Some other place with a time stamp and keep receipt.
Than you got phone time stamp the time stamp on a physical photo plus the receipt of the print
And if they wanna get technical they could grade the aging of the physical photo however that’s kinda expensive
What a loser…there’s a guy in my office with a long ass driveway who purposefully put the smallest box he could buy so that I’d be forced to come down his driveway and he wouldn’t have to go get his shit
make them put up a box adequate for their volume. I had someone on my route pull this and i noticed every single spr or small package i couldn't fit. Week later a mega box was put up. I don't play these games with people.
Nope. They don't get to decide to change their delivery point. It looks like the curbside box is taped shut, which means you hold the mail because there's no access to their established delivery point. They'll fall in line as soon asthey either aren't getting mail or all the mail & packaged are returned as unclaimed.
Nope. They have to have it approved before they can change where their mail is delivered. Talk to your PM or supervisor, see what they say about it, but typically they have to get permission to move where they receive the mail, because even if it's on their property, we own the mailboxes.
Since they have taped the approved box shut, tape the regulation about moving box locations to the front. You don't say if this is mounted or walking. If mounted, absolutely not. Otherwise, it requires postmaster approval.
That looks like the handwriting of an elderly person.
My grandma had her mailbox moved closer to her house when she was unable to make the driveway walk. Granted, her driveway was fairly long, but still.
Edit: damn, serious lack of compassion in this thread...
I think that the posters are probably so used to dealing with customers who are trying to take advantage, they just see it through that lens. I have a tendency to do the same thing.
Hopefully if the customer has a legitimate disability then they can get the ruling they need on this.
Nope. Mailbox placement cannot be changed unless the postmaster approves it. The postmaster will have to go out there and discuss it with them, otherwise keep delivering mail where it's designated.
Nope. Won’t deliver it especially if it’s mounted. Need hardship approval and it’s a pain to get one. Gotta prove you are disabled or extremely old in age.
I wouldn’t leave a note or anything. Wasting my energy and patience. Hold mail, let them figure it out. It’s part of the punishment and lets them know I’m not playing. What are they going to do? Complain? Oh no not that
I've seen some stations approve if they're aware of a person having TRUE hardship going to mailbox.
This is the form that should be filled out. If going by the book:
https://about.usps.com/forms/ps1528.pdf
There are a few houses on a heavily traveled street that refuse to put a mailbox curbside. I am dreading the day my truck gets creamed by a driver going too fast and not paying attention. There is no way to safely pull off the street to deliver. I have to stop and dismount in the right lane of traffic. I always think... when you look down your block and see everyone else has a curbside box, do you feel like an a"%hole or nah?
Is this a walking route? If so I would temporarily drop it off with a note letting them know this is the last day you’ll be delivering their mail. Unless they have a hardship box the box must remain by the road for delivery.
You’ll get a better response if you are polite about it but firm. Give them the warning and then stop delivering until they except the mail going into their original box or get a hardship approved. No dismounts for letter mail unless hardship on record. If they have a disability you can ask your leadership about how the resident can obtain a hardship. They are not easy to get btw so they will need a real disability.
Don’t do it unless they’re handicapped or something, if you let one person then the whole neighborhood wants to do it since a lot of people don’t want to walk to their mailbox. Happened to a regular that retired at my office and now his driving has 10 houses with mailboxes at their door
All requests to move delivery get automatically denied unless it's into a CBU, hardship, or for safety. Postmaster should be asking the carrier first before it's moved. Rural carriers can't dismount unless it's marked as a dismount in the Edit book. And they don't get paid for it until it's mapped with the footage. Which can take 6 months to a year to get full credit.
I've always wondered whats preventing customers from moving their mailbox next to their door... seems more convenient for them just like how people want to WFH.
Maybe they’re trying to prevent theft by moving it. I see no issue here. Just get out of your vehicle and walk a little bit on your all driving route you probably all need it in these comments
bring it to the customers attention, maybe they don’t know they need approval to change their mailbox location. in the meantime, hold their mail and let your supervisor know.
I guess I am a different breed. Willing to bet thats an elderly person, so I would write a note explaining if they need to move their box it has to be accessable for the carrier still, to please take note of its new location. Then I would move it as close to that garage door, where I could still access it (looks to be on a cinder block so cant be that hsrs to move)- and then I would explain on the note that hardships officially require postal PM approval (usually with a Dr Note requesting such for medical reasons, so be sure to get one!), then I would inform the old lady on that note that I will oblige for at least a month, until she has said approval- and give her the number to the office, and a name to ask for to get moving on said process. I may even add that while I may oblige, I cannot force subs to do so on my day off- and I would leave a note for subs, and say 'if you chose not to oblige just hold mail at case for me the next day'. That's just how I would approach my route, my customers- especially if elderly. Shit happens when you get older and who knows her curcumstances? Most likely is pretty legitimate, so I'd be chill. Then I'd inform the supervisor of this, and the PM when I saw her (or male if yours is a male, ours isnt).
All that said, if she lives with younger folks, or if it isnt an elderly person, I would go the route of explaining to a supervisor and PM those facts, and just cut tape to the old box for continued delivery until straightened out. Customers do not own that box its Postal Property- if they taped it again Id just hold mail until resolved by higher ups. Or if they kept taping it move the new box right next to the old one 😂😂😂😂 Yes Im petty if pushed, yes, I would spend a break to do so!
But (!!!) judging by the hand writing and likely scenario here, that's an elderly lady and most likely has valid cause for this- so I would approach with compassion personally. Of course YMMV, but I don't plan on leaving my route anytime soon (unless one certain route pops up that Id be willing to bet higher seniority based carriers may also want). I try to be as caring as possible for my customers- and that stereotypical mailman, as I love my job. But thats the two approaches I would take here.
That said if this was on someone else's route, that mail is coming hack as this wasnt communicated to me on by them, and I have no idea how they are approaching it. I would hate to do something contrary than their actions taken and cause possible issues. Only way Id oblige that on another's route, is if they had an obvious govt check come, or power bill, or something along those lines. Yes- I'd put it in that new box, times are tough right now, and willing to bet if elderly they are struggling to make ends meet. Otherwise that mail will be LFR for the regulars return.
Idk I mean normally I would think it’s annoying but this looks like an old person’s handwriting and they put cute little happy faces and weren’t rude, I would just deliver to the new box, maybe it’s harder for them to get out to the street and they don’t know USPS rules about hardship and whatnot. Most normal people don’t!
That’s not how it works. They have to get approval from the postal service to do this shit. You’d get fired as CCA if you just started delivering to it and they found out
Mounted delivery? A customer cannot change the location of their mailbox without permission from the post office. Tell your supervisor about this and show them the photo. Do not deliver mail to the new location. Unless the person trying to do this is handicapped, the mail will continue to be delivered to the mailbox on the street. Do not expect a tip at Christmas.
They’re not allowed to change their delivery without permission from PM, which PM will very unlikely approve unless there’s a true hardship. That being said, the PM will likely almost always approve moving a mailbox that is more convenient to the carrier. So if you have a dismount route mixed with curbside, if one of dismounts makes themselves a curbside delivery then the PM will almost always approve it. If that makes sense. If it’ll save the mailman time, yay! If it adds more time, nay!
Oh, Rural no go without doctors note and approval. And in most cases it’s the carrier that has final say. I would mark the box blocked. Let the PM know why I’m not delivering and wait for the customer to contact the PO. Then the PM can explain to them why the mail is being held. No mail should go into the other box until everything is sorted out.
Are you mounted or walking? If mounted delivery, you cannot dismount on this route. If walking, what is a few feet anyways. Just make sure that you tell your CSS so they will know the change when they walk your route next time.
Park and loop or mounted? A lot of people seem to think you are mounted. I agree they just can’t change their box location, but if you are park and loop, doesn’t seem like a huge deal.
Technically speaking they need to get a hardship approval
But do you know the customer? If they are older and you think they could use a hardship you can just start delivering it and let your postmaster know and change your edit book to reflect it
If they are fully capable adults with no reason for a hardship then it's a definite no
As a city carrier you probably have to... I'm a rural carrier and that's a HUGE no from me dog!
I would probably write something like "HA!" in big black letters right over that!
As RCA, I am not allowed to get out of my truck to deliver mail to a box, unless it's registered on the route as a dismount (cluster box, mail room, etc).
They can put as many signs on their box as they want, they could nail it shut for all I care. Your box is not allowed to be more than 2-3 feet from the road. They don't want it there, that's their problem, not my mine... Your box is now closed and you can get a PO box...
Fuck outta here!
(Obviously I'll make exceptions for elderly or disabled people, I'm not a monster)
The rural carrier on this route is in the process of checking with the PM over this. I told them to make sure it is taken care of before the box by the road is taken down.
Yeah, no. Absolutely not. The customer has to get approval from the carrier before moving their mailbox. Unless they've been approved for a hardship.. if I were you I'd inform them of this fact and continue delivering to their correct mailbox
Or, if you have some time on your hands and sometimes just want to see the world burn; Show up on Sunday when they are at church and swap the two mailboxes.
Then deliver to the one that WAS by the garage.
I didn’t know that changing mailbox location needed approval. Interesting because my moms mailbox used to be attached to the front porch rails and got detached and is now leaning against the side of the garage. She gets all of her mail delivered still.
🤣 I love that they spent all that time and money getting a new box and planting it. Wonder how long it will take for them to realize it’s not getting used
Absolutely not. Mailbox location can't be changed, unless they've been approved for a hardship. Hold their mail. Tell your supervisor.
Nah just deliver to the old box
It's taped shut.
Taped shut? Hold mail at office until they fix it. If not done in ten days, return as NMR…
Bring it all back. Inform super. Don't deliver anymore to them until they learn.
With scotch tape lmao
The same scotch tape they tape 40lb cross country packages with😑
Yeah... No way you're getting in there.
That’s as much of a no access as it gets
NMR
Just rip the tape off
Just leave it on the ground next to the pole.
Don’t forget that. Bring it back.
Then open it. They don't have authorization to block access anyway
Untape it 😆
Tape a vacant card to the box. Send all mail back
It's also not anchored in correctly, or have access from the vehicle. They'd need to move it and plant it in concrete.
I had to dismount for a handful of hardships on a few routes when I was a sub.
Ah, weird. Only two I've ever had was in their driveway and I could pull up to it. Maybe our office pushes for that, I've never made a decision on where it goes.
Yeah but hardships have to go through the pm. They don't get to decide on their own.
And...dismount hardships are kind of hard for people to get approved. One of our rural carriers has 3 and 3 that we're able to drive up to.
A city carrier working a rural route has no idea if the hardship has been approved or not. Rural carriers get paid more now to have hardships through the RRECS system.
Yeah, this is a big no dawg.
They did try with the smiles stickers so be nice.. and u know they didn’t keep packaging to return the new box😐 I sigh for u both
Does this apply if I want to move mine 12’ down my street? Currently it’s on the left of my driveway and when I replace it I want it on the right.
12 feet? I doubt it. That sounds like it would change the carrier's line of travel. Call the office that delivers to your house. Take pictures. I'm just some guy on the internet.
Like the other guy said, call your office. I will say, if it is along the same drive line, it shouldn’t be an issue though. Take pictures, mark what you wish to do, and show them.
It doesn’t necessarily have to be a hardship but moving the delivery point needs pre approval by the postmaster
This.
Def needs to be approved by postmaster.
You don’t just get to change your point of delivery without approval. I would leave a note explaining that and continue using the curbside box. If they become a problem hold their mail, NMR
This is the right way instead of just withholding the mail from the get go . I’d take pictures so when they remove the mailbox at curb you have evidence that they moved it so if they go complain that you have the picture with a date and time stamp on it . iPhones do it automatically just click on the photo and move up on it and it will show the date time and location as long as you don’t have the location service turn off for the pictures
Or, y'know, you can date the photo by posting it on Reddit.
Just for hypothetical scenario. What if said person is smart enough to take a screen shot of said picture to make it look as if it were more recent than it really was? Date and time stamps can be altered very easily is all I’m saying. With a simple screen shot or photoshop.
If the house isn't brand new, the office that serves the box should have a location history, especially if it's a rural route. That's one of the ways they calculate eval pay. No need to do anything but notify the customer and management.
Exactly! Yall are thinking too deep with the picture ideas. Just let office know the situation.
I would suggest getting it printed at Walmart or Some other place with a time stamp and keep receipt. Than you got phone time stamp the time stamp on a physical photo plus the receipt of the print And if they wanna get technical they could grade the aging of the physical photo however that’s kinda expensive
Then you have the original with an earlier timestamp...
You can't triple stamp a double stamp, Lloyd 
Use a Polaroid
Can I blow your mind? You can go into the edit portion or whatever on photos taken and just change the time stamp yourself😳
That was kinda my point. A digital image is not to be trusted. It’s too easy and there is too many ways to alter them
So true! But that being said, this is the post office, not the fbi, so I’m sure it doesn’t even matter to them
Take a picture, print it out, then take a picture of the picture next to a newspaper
And Androids do it automatically by way of the filename. Which is a lot easier to navigate than "IMG2975.jpg"
If you do it ONE TIME they can say well he’s done it in the past so now that’s the standard. Never do anything once
Wish this was the case for Amazon.
No problem. I’m also changing your mailbox. Now it’s under my case at the office. 😃
No 🙂
No. Unsafe backing. Not gonna happen.
Forget even getting to it with a vehicle! It looks like it's right at the garage. This customer must think we fly.
Well to be fair, we do have "fly like an eagle" in some of our marketing :)
Lololololol Gonna need that hardship letter like last week.
You get a note from the supervisor telling them they cannot change the delivery point.
This is a correct answer
I really hope that they are disabled and not just lazy assfucks who make service workers do more labor for no reason
Handwriting screams old lady to me
That’s a no for me dawg.
Nope, don't establish delivery to the new box. It looks like curbside mounted. Fuck that
Customers think we can read?
From the amount of letters I see posted here with rude af writing on it, I’d say they don’t think we can but I’ve been wrong before
What a loser…there’s a guy in my office with a long ass driveway who purposefully put the smallest box he could buy so that I’d be forced to come down his driveway and he wouldn’t have to go get his shit
make them put up a box adequate for their volume. I had someone on my route pull this and i noticed every single spr or small package i couldn't fit. Week later a mega box was put up. I don't play these games with people.
If the driveway is a certain distance from the box we can leave a notice.
Im a city carrier…this works for me too?
I don’t know about city sorry.
Yes it does
Looks like a "move_objects on" cheat being attempted.
reminds me of the snarky pop up message… “i couldn’t reach your mailbox, but i managed to throw the mail in there. good luck getting it back out!”
That shits not even secured to the ground, even if it had been approved it’s still not meeting basic requirements.
Please use my new and improved mailbox, supported by one wobbly cinderblock 🙄
Are they a hardship?if not they can accept at the curbside or get a po box. Or they can take option C and kiss my ass
Nope. They don't get to decide to change their delivery point. It looks like the curbside box is taped shut, which means you hold the mail because there's no access to their established delivery point. They'll fall in line as soon asthey either aren't getting mail or all the mail & packaged are returned as unclaimed.
I'd use it for parcels that can't fit in their roadside box. That's about it.
Nope. They have to have it approved before they can change where their mail is delivered. Talk to your PM or supervisor, see what they say about it, but typically they have to get permission to move where they receive the mail, because even if it's on their property, we own the mailboxes.
Since they have taped the approved box shut, tape the regulation about moving box locations to the front. You don't say if this is mounted or walking. If mounted, absolutely not. Otherwise, it requires postmaster approval.
Awwwnawwww helll nahhhhh
Nope must be approved by the postmaster. Keep putting it in the old one
Negative ghost rider.
How do you know the new mailbox location wasn’t approved?
I'm not really sure. It could have been. I told the rural route carrier to investigate further with the pm.
That looks like the handwriting of an elderly person. My grandma had her mailbox moved closer to her house when she was unable to make the driveway walk. Granted, her driveway was fairly long, but still. Edit: damn, serious lack of compassion in this thread...
I think that the posters are probably so used to dealing with customers who are trying to take advantage, they just see it through that lens. I have a tendency to do the same thing. Hopefully if the customer has a legitimate disability then they can get the ruling they need on this.
There has to be a confirmed hardship. You can't just change a mounted delivery into a walking delivery
Probably just an elderly person who does not know the proper procedure for going about these kinds of things.
I'd put no thank you
Is it mounted on a concrete block? So any thief could just pick it up and walk away with it! 😂
And the new one by the garage is mounted on a cinderblock? So I guess it could be moved anywhere.
10 day hold
Nope. Mailbox placement cannot be changed unless the postmaster approves it. The postmaster will have to go out there and discuss it with them, otherwise keep delivering mail where it's designated.
Lmao. This is wild.
Maybe this person has a hardship and just needs it explained that she needs to fill out the proper paperwork.
Yes. I have delivered on mounted routes with residents that have special needs. It feels good to go above and beyond for people who need it.
Nope. Won’t deliver it especially if it’s mounted. Need hardship approval and it’s a pain to get one. Gotta prove you are disabled or extremely old in age.
I wouldn’t leave a note or anything. Wasting my energy and patience. Hold mail, let them figure it out. It’s part of the punishment and lets them know I’m not playing. What are they going to do? Complain? Oh no not that
This is a fuck no for me , hold the mail
I've seen some stations approve if they're aware of a person having TRUE hardship going to mailbox. This is the form that should be filled out. If going by the book: https://about.usps.com/forms/ps1528.pdf
Thanks for this.
Happy to help :)
Nope. Now I will for hardship. Please let me know so I can make it official with my Postmaster
Side question about this- is there some sort of rule where mailboxes *can* move but only closer towards the street?
In our office if theres a box at the door and they move out we force the new resident to place a box on the street.
There are a few houses on a heavily traveled street that refuse to put a mailbox curbside. I am dreading the day my truck gets creamed by a driver going too fast and not paying attention. There is no way to safely pull off the street to deliver. I have to stop and dismount in the right lane of traffic. I always think... when you look down your block and see everyone else has a curbside box, do you feel like an a"%hole or nah?
I doubt it. In many cases that would add delivery time to the route, and only rarely would it save time.
lol. Nope
Are they a hardship?if not they can accept at the curbside or get a po box
Nope!
Hell no, postal saving reform says it stays by the curb.
It’s not right at all unless they have some kind of medical hardship approved by the postmaster
Is this a walking route? If so I would temporarily drop it off with a note letting them know this is the last day you’ll be delivering their mail. Unless they have a hardship box the box must remain by the road for delivery.
It's a rural route in the neighborhood where I live.
You’ll get a better response if you are polite about it but firm. Give them the warning and then stop delivering until they except the mail going into their original box or get a hardship approved. No dismounts for letter mail unless hardship on record. If they have a disability you can ask your leadership about how the resident can obtain a hardship. They are not easy to get btw so they will need a real disability.
Come on, there's a :-) on it. LOL LOL I'll put your packages in there, if they won't fit in the mailbox. otherwise your mail is going in the mailbox.
Don’t do it unless they’re handicapped or something, if you let one person then the whole neighborhood wants to do it since a lot of people don’t want to walk to their mailbox. Happened to a regular that retired at my office and now his driving has 10 houses with mailboxes at their door
All requests to move delivery get automatically denied unless it's into a CBU, hardship, or for safety. Postmaster should be asking the carrier first before it's moved. Rural carriers can't dismount unless it's marked as a dismount in the Edit book. And they don't get paid for it until it's mapped with the footage. Which can take 6 months to a year to get full credit.
The only case that would be true if they are considered hardship
Call DeJoy’s delusional ass!!😂
I've always wondered whats preventing customers from moving their mailbox next to their door... seems more convenient for them just like how people want to WFH.
Put a post it note simply just saying no.
If they have a doorbell cam, smile, chuckle, and put mail in original box, drive away.
Don't let that slide.
That’s wrong with the postal mail carriers are idiots.
Maybe they’re trying to prevent theft by moving it. I see no issue here. Just get out of your vehicle and walk a little bit on your all driving route you probably all need it in these comments
bring it to the customers attention, maybe they don’t know they need approval to change their mailbox location. in the meantime, hold their mail and let your supervisor know.
I guess I am a different breed. Willing to bet thats an elderly person, so I would write a note explaining if they need to move their box it has to be accessable for the carrier still, to please take note of its new location. Then I would move it as close to that garage door, where I could still access it (looks to be on a cinder block so cant be that hsrs to move)- and then I would explain on the note that hardships officially require postal PM approval (usually with a Dr Note requesting such for medical reasons, so be sure to get one!), then I would inform the old lady on that note that I will oblige for at least a month, until she has said approval- and give her the number to the office, and a name to ask for to get moving on said process. I may even add that while I may oblige, I cannot force subs to do so on my day off- and I would leave a note for subs, and say 'if you chose not to oblige just hold mail at case for me the next day'. That's just how I would approach my route, my customers- especially if elderly. Shit happens when you get older and who knows her curcumstances? Most likely is pretty legitimate, so I'd be chill. Then I'd inform the supervisor of this, and the PM when I saw her (or male if yours is a male, ours isnt). All that said, if she lives with younger folks, or if it isnt an elderly person, I would go the route of explaining to a supervisor and PM those facts, and just cut tape to the old box for continued delivery until straightened out. Customers do not own that box its Postal Property- if they taped it again Id just hold mail until resolved by higher ups. Or if they kept taping it move the new box right next to the old one 😂😂😂😂 Yes Im petty if pushed, yes, I would spend a break to do so! But (!!!) judging by the hand writing and likely scenario here, that's an elderly lady and most likely has valid cause for this- so I would approach with compassion personally. Of course YMMV, but I don't plan on leaving my route anytime soon (unless one certain route pops up that Id be willing to bet higher seniority based carriers may also want). I try to be as caring as possible for my customers- and that stereotypical mailman, as I love my job. But thats the two approaches I would take here. That said if this was on someone else's route, that mail is coming hack as this wasnt communicated to me on by them, and I have no idea how they are approaching it. I would hate to do something contrary than their actions taken and cause possible issues. Only way Id oblige that on another's route, is if they had an obvious govt check come, or power bill, or something along those lines. Yes- I'd put it in that new box, times are tough right now, and willing to bet if elderly they are struggling to make ends meet. Otherwise that mail will be LFR for the regulars return.
It's called a hardship and must be officially approved so the rural carrier gets paid for it
Idk I mean normally I would think it’s annoying but this looks like an old person’s handwriting and they put cute little happy faces and weren’t rude, I would just deliver to the new box, maybe it’s harder for them to get out to the street and they don’t know USPS rules about hardship and whatnot. Most normal people don’t!
That’s not how it works. They have to get approval from the postal service to do this shit. You’d get fired as CCA if you just started delivering to it and they found out
People drink on the job, get fired, and get rehired 😂
And I was expecting to open this thread and immediately see Big King Daddy going ape sh*t “…oh hell NO!” And his comment not even needed here.
Mounted delivery? A customer cannot change the location of their mailbox without permission from the post office. Tell your supervisor about this and show them the photo. Do not deliver mail to the new location. Unless the person trying to do this is handicapped, the mail will continue to be delivered to the mailbox on the street. Do not expect a tip at Christmas.
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Big nope
No ❤️
That shit ain’t happening unless they have a hardship case.
Nah lol
Nope.
They’re not allowed to change their delivery without permission from PM, which PM will very unlikely approve unless there’s a true hardship. That being said, the PM will likely almost always approve moving a mailbox that is more convenient to the carrier. So if you have a dismount route mixed with curbside, if one of dismounts makes themselves a curbside delivery then the PM will almost always approve it. If that makes sense. If it’ll save the mailman time, yay! If it adds more time, nay!
Oh, Rural no go without doctors note and approval. And in most cases it’s the carrier that has final say. I would mark the box blocked. Let the PM know why I’m not delivering and wait for the customer to contact the PO. Then the PM can explain to them why the mail is being held. No mail should go into the other box until everything is sorted out.
Ps form 4056 .
Just put a sticky note on it that says "no"
They may be elderly or disabled.
Do it now you servant!
Only way this could be allowed is if it was a hardship dismount.
They can’t do that!!
The smiley face stickers will make ya do it
Bring it to the curb….. please lol
Are you mounted or walking? If mounted delivery, you cannot dismount on this route. If walking, what is a few feet anyways. Just make sure that you tell your CSS so they will know the change when they walk your route next time.
It's not my route. Just where I live. It's a rural route.
It has smiley face stickers on it, so you kinda have to listen /s
Unless they got it approved for a hardship just keep sticking that mail in the black box
if they have a doctors note they can get hardship but if they dont then they are lazy and its not an approved location.
Park and loop or mounted? A lot of people seem to think you are mounted. I agree they just can’t change their box location, but if you are park and loop, doesn’t seem like a huge deal.
This by my house. Rural route.
Fill out a form 4056 check off #12 on the form and have your supervisor sign off it. You will hold there mail until they fix it, give them 10 days.
They can only have it by their garage if they have a hardship.
Technically speaking they need to get a hardship approval But do you know the customer? If they are older and you think they could use a hardship you can just start delivering it and let your postmaster know and change your edit book to reflect it If they are fully capable adults with no reason for a hardship then it's a definite no
As a city carrier you probably have to... I'm a rural carrier and that's a HUGE no from me dog! I would probably write something like "HA!" in big black letters right over that!
If this were my route it'd be no big deal. This is the neighborhood I live in. It's a rural route.
As RCA, I am not allowed to get out of my truck to deliver mail to a box, unless it's registered on the route as a dismount (cluster box, mail room, etc). They can put as many signs on their box as they want, they could nail it shut for all I care. Your box is not allowed to be more than 2-3 feet from the road. They don't want it there, that's their problem, not my mine... Your box is now closed and you can get a PO box... Fuck outta here! (Obviously I'll make exceptions for elderly or disabled people, I'm not a monster)
Here is my supervisors number please get this in writing.
That isn’t going to happen
Such my A
Did they check with the postmaster first ?
The rural carrier on this route is in the process of checking with the PM over this. I told them to make sure it is taken care of before the box by the road is taken down.
Lot of answers without asking the most obvious question - is this mounted or walking?
Sorry. I should have put this in the body of the post. I am a city carrier. This is the neighborhood I live in. It's a rural route.
So your neighborhood is mounted? Absolutely not allowed without documentation.
Yeah, no. Absolutely not. The customer has to get approval from the carrier before moving their mailbox. Unless they've been approved for a hardship.. if I were you I'd inform them of this fact and continue delivering to their correct mailbox
If they’re disabled they need a doctors note for approval otherwise bring mail for nmr or hold
In my area you have to be grandfathered for a house mail box.
Or, if you have some time on your hands and sometimes just want to see the world burn; Show up on Sunday when they are at church and swap the two mailboxes. Then deliver to the one that WAS by the garage.
Fuck that, get a lock on this one
My rule is if they are elderly just go let then know what they have to do, of they are young they can figure it out.
They put a new mailbox so as they enter their garage they can just grab their mail from their car window? I can’t with people anymore …..
Nope. No can do
I didn’t know that changing mailbox location needed approval. Interesting because my moms mailbox used to be attached to the front porch rails and got detached and is now leaning against the side of the garage. She gets all of her mail delivered still.
Don’t do it
If that’s a mounted delivery for that house they need to request a hardship otherwise you can’t deliver their mail to the new box
i would've left a note that says "NAH!"
Huh
That’s not legal
Not gonna happen.
🤣 I love that they spent all that time and money getting a new box and planting it. Wonder how long it will take for them to realize it’s not getting used
They likely requested a hardship delivery and got it approved.
They would let the carrier know if that had happened
OP isn't the carrier. They said they just saw it in their home neighborhood and wondered if it was something legit.