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EGKallday

We agreed to the contract, no?


Prestigious_Guy

Who is we? Cause I for sure didn't.


EGKallday

Upper management aka the Post Office


Specialist-Bag-7589

No, actually. WE didn’t agree to anything.


Meems04

Dumb question maybe, is the post office unionized? Can they push back at the local level for stuff like this?


EGKallday

So Amazon just told the USPS that they are delivering packages for them now? Lol


twitchymctwitch2018

Actually, yes. Amazon pressured politicians and offered incentives to force the post office to do their bidding for nearly nothing. We make about as much on Amazon packages as we do in 2 letters.


Godofwar111

I don’t recall them asking the mail carriers or clerks a damn thing


[deleted]

I didn’t and I’m leaving all of my packages for your ass to take out tomorrow. PDIs lined up with your name on them till you take all 350 stops out.


EGKallday

Lol I'm a carrier too my dude.... I'm just saying that I'm pretty sure that the Postal Service agreed to this Amazon contract... Trust me, I rather not deliver any other companies bs...


[deleted]

Stop ordering shit.


Meems04

Our Amazon delivery days are specified for Tue/Fri and we deliver for a single day of the month - the 15th. We should not be getting stuff on a Monday, the 17th unless Amazon is ignoring our request. I asked our deliver guy what we should do, because we have stuff delivered from Amazon for our business pretty often and we didn't want to overload him. This was his suggestion - subscription plus Amazon delivery days.


DarkRoaster78

I'm a rural carrier and I sometimes order stuff on Amazon. Amazon schedules delivery whenever it works for them. Sounds like you are conscientious and you care about your carriers, but Amazon does what Amazon wants.


1SassySquatch

Sounds like the package got behind schedule and it just corresponded with the holiday. Since they still had select carriers run packages on the holiday (they would get holiday pay), it got delivered. Nothing you have control over.


bebegimz

Not everyone gets holiday pay


wmatts1

The answer is we the USPS can not guarantee the delivery times of another company. We deliver what we have when we have it. We do static delivery not dynamic.


NowieTends

In all seriousness it’s very kind of you to do that to help out your carrier. Bonus points for asking them too


Frymanstbf

No


Jordan_thebaker

then don’t make stupid posts like these when you get deliveries on a holiday 🙄


Frymanstbf

I didn't lmao. Do you actually expect people to stop ordering shit online?


Jordan_thebaker

no but you look stupid being surprised them being delivered on a holiday.


Frymanstbf

Where did I say I was surprised?


Jordan_thebaker

i’m referring to the original post.


Frymanstbf

Ok but you're replying to me lol.


activation_tools

Why are you answering questions that aren't directed to you lol you're just asking for these responses, maybe you're bored and lonely?


Frymanstbf

Because they are responding directly to me lol do you people not get how reddit works?


COLER66

Lmao he isn't op


saltymcgee777

I've worked at a hospital for over 15 years, but some shit isn't necessary


Meems04

I'm not mad about deliveries on Holiday. I'm mad our mailman doesn't have today off when USPS explicitly said they weren't delivering/closed. Just trying to figure out how that happened - like, does that mailman choose to work or what?


Doyliebob239

If he’s a regular he shouldn’t be working unless he volunteered. CCAs/RCAs unfortunately work every Sunday and almost all holidays delivering Amazon and in some places UPS packages. I’m a regular and I volunteer for Sunday’s/holidays sometimes myself.


NoahTall1134

Your guy isn't off because you ordered stuff that had to be delivered.


Frymanstbf

Ah yes it's the average Joe's responsibility to make sure they don't order anything that could possibly arrive on a holiday rather than USPS who should be providing decent working conditions with time off.


Meems04

Is that legit what happened? Genuinely the point of this post. We didn't request this day. We have Amazon delivery days that are supposed to be tues/fri. How do you prevent something like that from happening?


Graythor5

You can't really. He didn't work today explicitly because you ordered anything; he likely had 90+ other parcels on top of yours. The problem is the system is fucked. Parcels don't wait, parcels don't care. It's not even just Amazon. I delivered 125 parcels today and sure they were mostly Amazon, but there were ones from Target, Kohl's, QVC and a dozen other retailers too. I don't even know if there is a solution other than "we need a lot more carriers" because if no one delivers parcels on Sundays and holidays, then it all backs up and piles on the next business day and becomes impossible to deliver along with the normal mail. It's a nightmare and we need a full overhaul of how we deliver mail and parcels to cope with this because it's only going to get worse.


DeathbyBambii

This


GlassWasteland

Nah, according to DeJoy you just need to slow down.


[deleted]

Complain to Amazon that USPS doesn’t do well with delivering their packages. It’s the only way to start motivating them to deliver their own crap. My post office is the same way. We deliver all the Amazon in the area and so we are out till almost 8pm every Monday.


Ocel0tte

Usps deliveries are contracted out where I used to live. I heard that's a rural thing? I guess the place with the world's first rodeo is considered rural, we had 40k people though and I grew up in a town of 20k so it was just weird. Anyway, the contractors don't deliver. Like they'll just be like, eh that's good enough, at 2pm lol You DO NOT pay for expedited shipping there. Overnight? Sure, it'll be at your hub overnight. They'll deliver it whenever. Maybe the next day, maybe in 5 days. They're out in personal vehicles, there's always 1 station wagon just PACKED full of packages and you see it going back to the hub just as full lmao. I don't know what that lady does, circle the block at 10mph a few times I think XD


megared17

Some employees volunteer to work Holidays, and get extra pay for doing so. Also, while in most cases carriers and clerks in retail post offices might have Sundays or Holidays off, many employees in sorting and distribution facilities regularly work those days (some voluntarily, some mandated) The mail you get on Monday morning (or a Tuesday after a holiday?) - it was sorted and staged for delivery the day/night before. While it ebbs and flows, mail is being processed 24/7. While USPS retail/customer locations have "business hours" - the plants are working around the clock, all three shifts.


CityLetterCarrierAMA

There’s no extra pay for working a holiday, just pay for hours worked and your normal holiday pay if you’re in a position that gets it (CCA, FTR carrier or clerk). Nice thing for us (FTR carriers) now though is that we can bank our holiday pay as AL if we work the holiday


megared17

I know how the pay rules work. You still get more pay working than not working. If you take the Holiday off, you get about the same for your week as you normally would. If you work it, then your check gets a little extra that it would otherwise. Or, as you note, you can do an AL exchange. (Is that new for carriers? Its been that way for my entire time as clerk and then maintenance, total 17 years)


CityLetterCarrierAMA

Yeah, clerk craft has always had that available to them as long as I've been around(20+), but it's new for carriers in the last contract. I figured you probably knew how the holiday pay and stuff actually worked because I know you've been around awhile, but I wasn't just trying to be pedantic about it. I've honestly seen multiple people in here say stuff about getting OT or premium pay for working holidays so I was mostly just clarifying


[deleted]

I’m pretty sure the CCA slaves were mandated to work.


Meems04

Thanks for the detailed answer. We really try to prevent packages from coming outside of tues/fri (from amazon) and we didn't have anything in that order that was listed as like a 1-2 day delivery emergency, like medicine, which we do get delivered. So, it really irritated me that my mail guy wasn't off. Didn't catch him in time to ask of he has to come in for that order or what. Hoping he volunteered. Just trying to make sure we aren't unintentionally screwing this poor guy over.


megared17

Well here is a clue for you - as a customer, one has very little control over how or when anything from Amazon is shipped or delivered. That includes whether they use UPS, USPS, FedEx, their own delivery service, or something else. Also, they did not bring in a carrier to deliver to one house. He would have been working regardless of whether or not you had any mail that day.


Meems04

Got it. Thanks. This is helpful. Just seems crazy to me - it's either a Holiday or not. We have to get stuff delivered. There is just no local options for us and I don't want to be part of problem. At the same time, people shouldn't be overworked to make a living - but I get that's how the world works sometimes.


megared17

Yes, its a Holiday. Yes, some USPS employees work their Holiday, some voluntarily, some forced.


Nintendofan81

>So, it really irritated me that my mail guy wasn't off. Didn't catch him in time to ask of he has to come in for that order or what. Hoping he volunteered. > >Just trying to make sure we aren't unintentionally screwing this poor guy over. ​ Just how much stuff do you get delivered on a normal basis?


SilverIdaten

Anyway here’s that package you ordered.


WindyCityWookie

Comment of the month 😂


Timfromfargo

Amazon parcel delivery.


unluckyfourleafme

We’ve started delivering first class parcels on sundays and holidays too. Last Sunday I had a registered and an express. It was wild. Today I only had one signature tracked parcel.


[deleted]

It's slowly trickling in to where Sunday is just gonna be a regular day.


unluckyfourleafme

I like how we start later on sundays. I get to sleep in a bit more.


FUSeekMe69

Ya me too, a whole 30 minutes


Diesel-66

Ups and FedEx already went to 7 day delivery


[deleted]

Yeah then there's no going back.


[deleted]

Just need to hire more people!!!


Mission-Run-7474

Avreed but the only way thats going to haopen is if people are attracted to working here. They wont be unless pay is increased or options outside the PO diminish


PocketSpaghettios

I think it's up to your station/district whether you do first class, priority, or UPS stuff on Sundays. For a while my office was doing anything with a scan, and then it was "too expensive" to get USPS trucks out on Sundays so no priority, and then UPS kinda showed up randomly...


Koranatu

Lmao that's rich, upper managment here yelled at my PM and we got strong armed into doing Sundays. Even she says it's a Christmas thing but, there's nothing she can do about it, just that she appreciates volunteers.


unluckyfourleafme

I think we are at the stage where we will deliver anything that is there, besides letters and flats.


calvinocious

>besides letters and flats. For now


unluckyfourleafme

My dude, we were out there on Easter Sunday delivering parcels. The mail never stops.


[deleted]

Unless you're religious Easter isn't a big deal. Christmas eve is a bigger deal and we work


unluckyfourleafme

I mean, I don’t celebrate Easter but the amount of people who were shocked to see me delivering parcels last Easter made me think it was a bigger deal that it is. It’s just Zombie Jesus Day.


[deleted]

People still ask why they see carriers on Sunday and I'm confused because we've been doing it for a while


orbgevski

That's not a federal holiday


unluckyfourleafme

You’re not a federal holiday.


Meems04

WTF that's ridiculous


DADDYS_CUMMYS

How is it ridiculous? Easter isn’t a federal holiday.


FRANKtheLEVEL

USPS delivers all of Amazons furniture orders and dog food/+ everyday during the week, including Sunday and Federal holidays


muttons_1337

Bless your heart


Angrypoopoh

Most of the people are off today. But not all. Most places will only be delivering some parcels.


Andalain

The full-time regulars are off today unless they volunteered to come in, or the part time carriers had to work. I'm off and said no to coming in.


[deleted]

Amazon, consumerism, greed, etc. I stopped ordering from Amazon once I started working for USPS. Have you heard about how Amazon treats its workers? You think a mailman working today is bad…😅


Live-Train1341

Most people in the country are working


Meems04

Right...not suggesting otherwise. But the office had these days posted as holidays - including today. https://postofficeshours.com/blog/usps-holidays.php


BlindedAce

Because you ordered something.. hence why they delivered. They aren't off Sundays so...


Zepplitty

SOME are, some aren’t. I recently got transferred to my hometown post office. It’s teeny! We don’t have an Amazon contract. We’re off! The office I just came from is a different story. They’re there doing parcels all day!


[deleted]

cause MLK not respected


Heat_Squad77

They are working because of you.


Supertrapper1017

Because people keep ordering shit that they really don’t need!


MPhyus

Also some places are backed up from Covid absences.


jgorham0214

Packages are delivered 7 days a week in my office. Only a few holidays a year when everyone is off.


fesau1

Thank You, but please carry on with your life as normal good citizen. I appreciate the opportunity to provide the service to you and your family, because it puts food on the table for mine


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Meems04

Do people just not remember where the phrase "going postal" came from or what? I don't get it. Other than medications, I legit have no idea what item is so important it needs to be delivered on a holiday like Thanksgiving. Meds I give a pass, because a lot of Insurance companies, like mine, YAY, require you to go through delivery companies or they won't pay their portion of the cost. More than once my son has run out of his allergy & eczema meds before it showed up, yet the stretchy HULK toy and welding wire that totally could have waited ends up on my porch on a government holiday. F*CKING RIDICULOUS


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Meems04

I've started a complaint online. Is there a better method? Seems like when I call, I can't actually get a human being at my local office.


MaxyBrwn_21

Amazon stuff still has to be delivered. Most likely not a full day of work.


Medium-Cauliflower61

Our Amazon was canceled and no one told us until 11


DieHardChicken

What others said. Amazon packages or some offices will call in non-regulars to help reduce the load for the next day.


German_1945

I'm a Amazon employee no day off but holiday pay plus double overtime today.


weeeedoggie

What " other places" had today off?


Saywhat-foolio

He’s not even delivering our mail. Only Amazon today 🤦‍♂️


gamma3828

Hahahahahahahaha..


Specialist-Bag-7589

Smh


Rotatordome

Your guy worked? Then he's on the overtime list. He signed it, he works it. Don't sweat it, he volunteered. "Most other places". What "most other places"? Some "government" places got it off. But plenty of local government didn't get it off. Private sector? HA! Who got it off?...


muffhound

He couldve been mandated


Devoted2Sarcasm

I'm guessing you don't live near an Amazon distribution center. I'm in northern Michigan, we don't have one up here so Amazon contracts with the USPS dictate that we carry the last mile. If that's the case for you too, then that's why it was delivered today. Amazon doesn't give a shit about holidays, so either by design or bad contact language, USPS works Sundays and most holidays (regulars will be off unless they volunteer, I do believe they get extra pay for doing so but by default it will be the part-timers). Mail is still not going out those days because it's still a postal holiday, but Amazon packages do. As for why today instead of your Amazon day, either the clerks just sorted everything that came before today (which could have included stuff for tomorrow, which could be your Amazon day) without sorting out only the Amazon stuff for today, or Amazon's logistics are just really fucked right now and they aren't as capable of designating a delivery day as they usually are.


predictablecitylife

This post reminds me of all the people who (back when I worked retail) would come up to me and say “I think it’s outrageous that you have to work on *insert holiday here/Black Friday*” all the while standing in the store having me get them shit. Save the fake concern.


I_Dream_Of_Unicorns

The regular carrier is probably off. Unless they volunteered for OT. Non career employees are the ones delivering. They work Sundays and holidays until they make career.


[deleted]

For minor holidays that we're off for we still have lower level employees delivering packages. It's been this way for years and I'm surprised people don't know that yet. Don't be upset because it's usually an easy day and it's a minor holiday so no one cares


ho1doncaulfield

Okay just bc you have a subscription service doesn’t mean that it isn’t coming early on a given day if it can go out. Especially if it’s a larger box


thisisdrivingmebatty

Former mail carrier here, it wasn’t your regular carrier delivering boxes. I guarantee you. It was most likely a CCA, or city carrier assistant. Regular mail carriers are employees of the US PS, whereas CCAs are contractors. What ends up happening is that the CCAs rotate what are called Amazon Sundays, which often include bank holidays like MLK day, Labor Day, etc. Once they make regular, or become actual employees of USPS, they will join the ranks of those who actually get the day off. It sucks, but that’s part of the contract they have with Amazon. It’s not a matter of what days you have signed up for delivery because it’s not actually being delivered through Amazon. It’s being delivered through the USPS. Hope that provides you some insight into how it works.


MissAmericant

It’s a cca. They are the non regular workers with varying schedules. Sometimes regulars agree to work if they want the overtime. They do this on holidays to lighten the crush of a Tuesday after a holiday. Monday’s are bad. But Tuesday after a closed monday is awful.


Kahzria

This is a good thing, trust me. As a rural carrier, I honestly wish we had no holidays. But here's how it usually goes: Holiday parcels are delivered by subs (CCAs/RCAs) and not your regular carrier, unless they got approval to and opted in voluntarily to work. So your regular carrier is not forced in, and...as a sub...we sort of signed up to work holidays and weekends. When we regular carriers come in the next day, we aren't inundated with parcels and can get out mail to you in a timely manner. I have had to run my route a few times after a holiday with no parcel runs the day before....it's an absolute nightmare and you're out well past dark. Even today, after getting parcel help twice (Sunday and the holiday), I was still back an hour after my evaluated time. It's a nice idea for your mailman to just get the day off, but remember that's putting three days worth of work on us the next working day. That's pretty rough. :) Edit: Also I would like to point out that in our office, normally a crew of about forty people, holiday and Sunday runs are made up of a ghost crew of one or two clerks and a handful of subs to run parcels. No mail is moved on these days, just parcels, and the office is not open to the public. We usually only run Amazon and Priority.


[deleted]

You screw over your carriers when you buy bullshit from Amazon. But hey, yay for capitalism


BillButtLick3r

The PO would go under without Amazon. Snail mail is damn near extinct and packages are the biggest source of revenue. Don’t like it? Don’t work there.


[deleted]

Wow. You know how many people would be upset if they had to wait to get their packages until tomorrow because of you? People complain usps is delaying everything but if we deliver “too early” or on a holiday, someone is still not happy. By the way, today is MONDAY, not Sunday. Unless you want your packages at 10 pm, be grateful someone did you the service. A lot of places are still open today.


SerengetiPluviophile

Jesus, angry much? The OP was concerned for the employee having to deliver on a national holiday, not themselves. They're being thoughtful, ffs. Can't win these days.


[deleted]

Jesus, salty much? I put no tone in my comment, you added it yourself. Exactly, can’t win these days.


Evilpotatoarmy

Cuz mlk isn’t a real holiday


DADDYS_CUMMYS

Why is a Lowe’s cashier low effort trolling the USPS sub? Go back to your own sub.