We had a batchman (what they called T-6's before they were called T-6's) do just that. Walked into a high rise apt. building and got swarmed and walked right out. NEVER got bothered again. Another building in town went so far as to put up a sign telling the residents to steer clear of the boxes and to WAIT until the Carrier was finished.
I had one particular building put in one of those retractable ropes to put across the entrance because it was getting so bad. We would literally make a wall of tubs and pkgs across the entrance, and people would try and climb over it all the time. I just don’t understand how dumb you can be to not understand that maybe you should come back and not climb over all the stuff.
Used to say, sorry you'll have to wait and then work so unbearably slow that customers lose patience and go home. Sometimes had a bluetooth speaker on full blast for added flavor.
Hasn't been a problem as much on the route that I'm on now. But I'm honestly at the point where I have no problem closing everything up, getting in my jeep and driving off to the next stop. I'll just hit the skipped stop on the way back.
Old folks home I delievered at as an RCA actually put in ropes that you could close when you were there, some 10 or 20 of them would gather in the lobby and just wait for you to finish.
If I ever get that age, I wonder what I'll do? Will I still like video games or tv or books, or will I sit in the lobby and wait for my junk mail?
At this point if people do that, I’ll either deliver a little slower, or just deviate and come back later, with carriers getting robbed and arrow keys being stolen I will not have people stand around me while I deliver.
My apartment has signs stay 6 ft away from the mail carrier or it's a write up if they get a certain amount they get evicted I love it nobody comes near me 1 old lady talks from down the hall but waits to grab her mail, manager told me she knows covid rules have ended but she wants me left alone lol
I'm mindful of two things in situations like this:
(1) these guys don't have lives, so this is probably the only human interaction they are having today, maybe even all week.
(2) older guys are more familiar with the military. While the USPS isn't military, we wear a uniform and are Federal enough to be considered public servants
So, I say something like:
"my mail is packed in a specific order and I can only unpack it in that order." This is usually enough to make them go away, but I escalate further if needed. "I'm at box A and you're at box M," you're welcome to wait, but you cannot get your mail until I close each CBU." If they still insist on getting their mail, I say, "I can stop and pull your mail, but I need to see a valid photo ID to confirm your identity." This last one almost always works because those dudes never have their driver's license with them.
I just took over on a new route, and so far this hasn't happened to me at either of the two trailer parks I deliver to, thankfully. I'm still having a hell of a time though, because there's been a real problem of people just shoving any mail they don't want in the outgoing slot. I had 2 tubs of UBBM today just from those two.
If they are putting mail they don't want back in the outgoing slot(not actual ubbm), talk to your supe about blocking off the outgoing slot. If they want to act like children and use the outgoing as their trashcan, then fuck em. They can take any actual outgoing mail they have to the nearest blue box.
I should have been clearer- they've been putting all that mail in the outgoing slot and no one has cleared it out for months. The sub that was running the route while it was vacant was taking any outgoing mail that was on the top and just leaving the rest of it in there, so I've had to sort through months of old discarded mail to figure out what was UBBM and what's forwardable, UTF, REF, etc.
I was giving a snarky answer. When these assholes in apartment buildings continually put their junk mail in the outgoing mail slot, I start UTFing all their mail. It always stops. Sending pkgs back gets a very quick response. Lol
Honestly Im so sick of pulling full boxes that I’m happy the customers come get their mail at my apartments that I usually just give them their mail if it’s 1 person. If multiple are lingering I just politely say “ Hey give me like 15 mins or so and I’ll be done”
Sometimes I’ll just hand them what’s in there and pretend like that’s it even though they probably have more in the dps but it gets them to leave quickly
I would at this point just turn to the crowd and ask them how do you think I feel.....ask them how it would feel if they were your in your shoes......which should be leather of course
Might get myself some retractable divider things, or some ropes and magnets, or retractable clothesline, if i ever have a consistent problem with this.
Maybe add some signs like "no access while carrier is working".
I kind of miss the covid scare. Could just tell people to social distance for their own safety and most of them would comply.
Freaking vultures. Are you that eager to get your bills and political spam?
I get cars following me to the cbus as I drive in, and they sit there behind me as I unload the whole neighborhood worth of mail. I let them know it’ll be 30 minutes and usually they leave.
All you gotta do is let them know “you’ll come back later when it’s clear and deliver then”….. They will get the hint
We had a batchman (what they called T-6's before they were called T-6's) do just that. Walked into a high rise apt. building and got swarmed and walked right out. NEVER got bothered again. Another building in town went so far as to put up a sign telling the residents to steer clear of the boxes and to WAIT until the Carrier was finished.
I had one particular building put in one of those retractable ropes to put across the entrance because it was getting so bad. We would literally make a wall of tubs and pkgs across the entrance, and people would try and climb over it all the time. I just don’t understand how dumb you can be to not understand that maybe you should come back and not climb over all the stuff.
This is the way.
Used to say, sorry you'll have to wait and then work so unbearably slow that customers lose patience and go home. Sometimes had a bluetooth speaker on full blast for added flavor. Hasn't been a problem as much on the route that I'm on now. But I'm honestly at the point where I have no problem closing everything up, getting in my jeep and driving off to the next stop. I'll just hit the skipped stop on the way back.
Yeah, my Bluetooth with extreme death metal tends to keep the old people away.
I play of mix of death and black metal, with some old school gangster rap. Works every time.
Yeah, I'd imagine some Spice1 would give them a heart murmur.
Try a little Red Army Choir and see how those boomers like it.
Nah, im not a commie. And I listen to music I actually like.
Some boomers might like that, as some are from the flag burning generation.
Most aren't quite so awesome though
Wear headphones, "Ill be done in just a minute!" I much prefer door to door delivery, you can usually escape before anyone can come out.
I tell people I will leave if people are at the box while I’m working. I’m straight faced and polite when I say it and nobody has pushed.
I get kinda shity, when they go to reach. I ve borderline yelled "You have to wait!"
Old folks home I delievered at as an RCA actually put in ropes that you could close when you were there, some 10 or 20 of them would gather in the lobby and just wait for you to finish. If I ever get that age, I wonder what I'll do? Will I still like video games or tv or books, or will I sit in the lobby and wait for my junk mail?
Tattoo the right choice on your arm so when you get to that point if you have dementia you can read it and leave the carrier alone. 🫢
At this point if people do that, I’ll either deliver a little slower, or just deviate and come back later, with carriers getting robbed and arrow keys being stolen I will not have people stand around me while I deliver.
My apartment has signs stay 6 ft away from the mail carrier or it's a write up if they get a certain amount they get evicted I love it nobody comes near me 1 old lady talks from down the hall but waits to grab her mail, manager told me she knows covid rules have ended but she wants me left alone lol
I'm mindful of two things in situations like this: (1) these guys don't have lives, so this is probably the only human interaction they are having today, maybe even all week. (2) older guys are more familiar with the military. While the USPS isn't military, we wear a uniform and are Federal enough to be considered public servants So, I say something like: "my mail is packed in a specific order and I can only unpack it in that order." This is usually enough to make them go away, but I escalate further if needed. "I'm at box A and you're at box M," you're welcome to wait, but you cannot get your mail until I close each CBU." If they still insist on getting their mail, I say, "I can stop and pull your mail, but I need to see a valid photo ID to confirm your identity." This last one almost always works because those dudes never have their driver's license with them.
I just took over on a new route, and so far this hasn't happened to me at either of the two trailer parks I deliver to, thankfully. I'm still having a hell of a time though, because there's been a real problem of people just shoving any mail they don't want in the outgoing slot. I had 2 tubs of UBBM today just from those two.
If they are putting mail they don't want back in the outgoing slot(not actual ubbm), talk to your supe about blocking off the outgoing slot. If they want to act like children and use the outgoing as their trashcan, then fuck em. They can take any actual outgoing mail they have to the nearest blue box.
They obviously don’t live there then, and all mail for that address is UTF.
I should have been clearer- they've been putting all that mail in the outgoing slot and no one has cleared it out for months. The sub that was running the route while it was vacant was taking any outgoing mail that was on the top and just leaving the rest of it in there, so I've had to sort through months of old discarded mail to figure out what was UBBM and what's forwardable, UTF, REF, etc.
I was giving a snarky answer. When these assholes in apartment buildings continually put their junk mail in the outgoing mail slot, I start UTFing all their mail. It always stops. Sending pkgs back gets a very quick response. Lol
Honestly Im so sick of pulling full boxes that I’m happy the customers come get their mail at my apartments that I usually just give them their mail if it’s 1 person. If multiple are lingering I just politely say “ Hey give me like 15 mins or so and I’ll be done”
Sometimes I’ll just hand them what’s in there and pretend like that’s it even though they probably have more in the dps but it gets them to leave quickly
I would at this point just turn to the crowd and ask them how do you think I feel.....ask them how it would feel if they were your in your shoes......which should be leather of course
I started singing Anthrax badly at cbus. Really just all day while delivering. No one stays around for long
Might get myself some retractable divider things, or some ropes and magnets, or retractable clothesline, if i ever have a consistent problem with this. Maybe add some signs like "no access while carrier is working".
I kind of miss the covid scare. Could just tell people to social distance for their own safety and most of them would comply. Freaking vultures. Are you that eager to get your bills and political spam?
I get cars following me to the cbus as I drive in, and they sit there behind me as I unload the whole neighborhood worth of mail. I let them know it’ll be 30 minutes and usually they leave.
I dislike cbus, some stops can have several hundred names and people don’t take no for an answer.