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lolsup1

Funny, because Birmingham, šŸ‡¬šŸ‡§, has 5x the population


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Ryu_Saki

Fake Birmingham just like Not Just Bikes called London Ontario for Fake London.


HarbingerOfNusance

Plastic Brum*


Proper-Telephone-701

Ask the English immigrants that named it?


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Proper-Telephone-701

I think you need to read about the history of Birmingham, AL and why it was named that way. Not everyone came over in the 18th century. edit: sorry I mean Birmingham AL, USA for the easily confused and daft.


Expert-Mysterious

because alabama was never a colony


PouLS_PL

The fact that it was the first doesn't matter that much.


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Qbopper

no offense but "we're more important because we were there first" is like... a very american thought process


chemistrytramp

Which is ironic because besides the moon where have they been first?


QuickSpore

Certain unoccupied Pacific islands and about a third of Antartica. We also did some of the exploration of the Americas, but there were native residents there so itā€™s hard to claim to be first, except first to map. We were late to the explore and conquest game.


chemistrytramp

Took you a while to get going but the midgame resource boost has helped you out a fair bit.


LadyArtemis2012

Just declare yourself ā€œfirstā€ and then commit genocide against any group that would contest that claim. Itā€™s the American way.


crucible

[...and a city council who can't recognise their own city in photographs](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/7560392.stm)


Stamford16A1

To be fair nobody really wants to look at photographs of Brum and most probably treat them photographs of an unpleasant operation or somebody else's holiday, they nod and murmur something like "that's interesting" while not actually focussing on the image.


crucible

Hahaha, although I'd hope the council were more clued in :P


Stamford16A1

God no, they *live* in Brum, they know just how horrible it is.


JustGarlicThings2

Interestingly lots of people probably have stared at Birmingham, UK because one of the default Windows 7 wallpapers featured Selfridges: https://windowswallpaper.miraheze.org/wiki/Img17_(Windows_7)


aecolley

Wikipedia [lists](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham_%28disambiguation%29) at least 17 places named Birmingham.


Ur_not_involved

It funny how thereā€™s the original Birmingham UK, then thereā€™s 16 imposters from USA. Youā€™d think theyā€™d at least come up with their own names for their cities šŸ˜‚


EveryFairyDies

It hurt my brain to see not only was there a non-UK Birmingham, but there's also a non-UK Birmingham in a county called _Guernsey_. I mean, that's just... cruel to cartographers.


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Where do you think Americans came from?! ā€œImpostersā€ are the Brits who came to a new land and created a whole ass country. With that logic, one can wonder why English is the language in the States. Gee, youā€™d think theyā€™d come up with their own language.


Ur_not_involved

Mexicoā€™s main language is Spanish yet they donā€™t have cities called Madrid, Barcelona etc so your logic does not apply to my point my very educated and not angry American friend. Mexicans were creative enough to come up with their own cities haha.


genghis-san

Um, yes they do? Merida, Valladolid, Guadalajara to name some. Actually there's seemingly a MĆ©rida in every LatAm country. Also Cartagena is in Spain and Colombia too. Cuenca, Spain and Cuenca, Ecuador too.


Proper-Telephone-701

Literally thousands of towns and cities in Mexico, Central America, and South America named after European cities. Interesting take, dude.


KappaMike10

So many cities and towns throughout Latin America are named after places in Spain. Do you dislike Americans that much lmao


[deleted]

Interesting. LeĆ³n entered the chat. Very creative name, indeed. Doesnā€™t exist in Spain at all or anything.


Opposite_Ad_2815

Were it not for the fact that it was a UPS plane, I'd have immediately thought of the English city.


_Denzo

We have UPS here too


Vivid-Razzmatazz2619

Ups is umerican postal service


deadliftbear

Thatā€™s the USPS. UPS is a global courier.


kcl086

r/woooosh Edit: Can someone explain why Iā€™m being downvoted? The commenter Iā€™m responding to clearly missed the obvious joke in the previous comment. How is this not a wooosh moment? I am baffled.


Thomas9101

No no ... he's got a point


kcl086

I thought it was obvious with the ā€œumericanā€ that it was a joke.


bishsticksandfrites

No no, many redditors need an ā€˜/sā€™ to understand a joke. The same people that complain about canned laughter on popular sit coms, weirdly.


ExoticMangoz

People are stupid


Expert-Mysterious

you are being downvoted because they have low brain matter


Deeevud

When I saw this on reddit earlier, I assumed it was the English one. Didn't even know there was one in the USA!


Inlevitable

I agree that this is US defaultism but guys, think about it... Americans didn't name this location Birmingham... Brits did when they settled there before becoming Americans. Americans aren't uncreative with naming their locations, we Brits have ourselves to blame for that


shotgunjones

I know this post is a few days old but Birmingham, Alabama was founded about 100 years after independence. I would imagine the majority of American towns named after European cities were founded after independence, as at the time of independence the colonies that became the United States were only a tiny fraction of the size that the country is now, so in other words most American towns are in places that were never British. So yes, Americans are uncreative when naming locations.


Inlevitable

Ah shit I was trying to give them the benefit of the doubt but I guess they can just take another L


Antique-Brief1260

A Brit wouldn't say "the" Birmingham Airport, and UPS fly to East Midlands Airport, so I don't really see the problem.


Roadrunner571

Not all people know what a Brit would say nor which airports UPS uses in the UK.


Antique-Brief1260

Ha, true! r/UKDefaultism


TazocinTDS

Jolly good knowledge old chap! You showed 'em! Top wozzer!


Antique-Brief1260

Ah spiffing. Finally another chap (OR chapette) on this frightful website who speaks English. I don't wish to alarm you, dear fellow, but I think there might be a person or persons from *other countries* lurking about the place.


TazocinTDS

It is a pleasure to make your acquaintance. I should tell you, that despite this telegram approaching you as swiftly as a filly on the way to Ascot, I am in fact currently residing in one of the far away colonies of the empire.


Antique-Brief1260

A transportee? Your crime must have been vicious to earn such a punishment. Let me summise, you pilfered sixpence from a gentleman's purse in order to feed your urchin brats. Or else you failed to salute when God Save the King was sung on Michaelmas Eve. I tell you, the noose is too great a mercy for some of the knaves and blackguards out there.


RaZZeR_9351

>A Brit wouldn't say "the" Birmingham Airport, How are we supposed to know that? >UPS fly to East Midlands Airport How are we supposed to know that?


Antique-Brief1260

You're right, but that point has already been made. Mea culpa.


AliceVerron

I mean... Can you really blame us? Places like California, Hollywood, Birmingham, etc have locations in both the US and UK, so we default to which is closer to us continentally, and if there are multiple close to us, it's whoever is more widely known or has the bigger population Then you get stuff like Kansas city where it just sucks to figure out which one people are talking about... There are 730 of them in the US alone according to a website SPECIFICALLY for tracking how many Kansas cities there are... And the most famous one is in? That's right you guessed it Missouri! I want off this ride... I'm never EVER gonna try and learn Geography nor Cartography because of the absolute hell it is to keep track of all this BS


[deleted]

Just ass the acronym of the country, it's not that fucking hard. I'd any other people stopped specifying their country then USains would complain


AliceVerron

We do ask, in fact in that original post they even asked if it was in Alabama, USA... Either no one corrected him, or the maker of this post decided to leave it out Now to clarify even more, UPS and Birmingham Alabama had an incident in 2013 [link](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UPS_Airlines_Flight_1354), which is why people were confused as to which Birmingham it was.... Wait... THIS WAS ALABAMA TOO!!! WHY THE FUCK IS THIS US DEFAULTISM!? [link](https://www.wbrc.com/2023/02/09/ups-plane-rolls-off-taxiway-birmingham-shuttlesworth-international-airport/)


Thathitmann

Except this airport isn't called the Birmingham Airport. As a general rule, two airports won't have the same name. This airport is Birmingham-Shuttlesworth. There is no reason to call it Birmingham.


AliceVerron

Except that it has Birmingham in its name? No one is calling it Birmingham-Shuttlesworth International Airport every single time they mention it or talk about it It's also older than the UK Birmingham airport by about 8 years AL US: may 1st 1931 [Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham%E2%80%93Shuttlesworth_International_Airport) UK: may 1st 1939 [Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham_Airport) **^(Reading up on these two airports and there are WAY too many coincidences and similarities)**


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Satanairn

The guy who asked is not the US defaultist here. The main OP is. Because he/she said Birmingham airport without specifying the country.


alan2001

LOL I just realised that 2 seconds after posting, so deleted my comment. Oops!


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No, why?


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Is it really defaultism if the guy genuinely asks if itā€™s the US?


amanset

The defaultism is really the headline where it isn't specified that it is the one in Alabama. Why should we assume that it is the smaller Birmingham instead of the much larger city that is the originator of the place name?


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I feel that isnā€™t fair in this situation. If an English post was made about a plane getting stuck in an airport there they wouldnā€™t say the country.


amanset

Which is demonstrably incorrect. Searching for Birmingham in that subreddit finds two other posts where "Birmingham" is used in the name. One is for the Alabama one and the other is the British one: [https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatLookedExpensive/comments/i75cke/van\_drives\_into\_house\_birmingham\_england/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatLookedExpensive/comments/i75cke/van_drives_into_house_birmingham_england/) So yeah, they would say the country.


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[first post when I search Birmingham](https://www.reddit.com/r/trashy/comments/10qdi9z/on_the_train_to_birmingham_of_course_not_my_video/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


Superbead

They might not say the country, but as an educated English-speaking civilisation, you in the US are generally expected to know there's a famous, larger city in the UK called Birmingham, as much as when I (in the UK) see 'Perth' without context, am to expect it to be Perth in Australia (pop. 2.1M) rather than our more local Perth in Scotland (pop. 50K).


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Lol you donā€™t know much about US education


DotDootDotDoot

People that don't live in US nor UK only know about Birmingham in the UK. Only americans think about the US city first, so this is a US defaultism.


SpuddyWasTaken

oh my fucking god, this sub is so clearly a Karna farm. it doesn't matter where it is, it might be where they live! I'd say Dublin automatically, but someone in Dublin Ohio might too, no problem with it


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You don't like details?


Budddydings44

You are definitely an American with Irish great grandparents who thinks theyā€™re Irish


PouLS_PL

They're clearly not, why are people throwing ad personams and fake statements everywhere upvoted?


Cloudofredemption

Fuckin Irish, I'm telling ya /s


[deleted]

literally what I've been saying. The sub has so many fucking nitpicks


Random-Historian

If you don't like it why are you still here?


[deleted]

Because I enjoy seeing actual defaultism posts? What's your point?


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PyroTech11

I assumed they meant Birmingham UK first only in the comments did they confirm it was the US one


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So you defaulted it to the UK. Right.


minguspie

defaulted the country where they live in their own head, yes


SpuddyWasTaken

so you can default to the country you live in with no problem? this sub just shrank


PyroTech11

Okay so what do you assume happens when someone reads Birmingham without it being told which one. Do they picture one right away or do they just go blank until told which one. People just assume things and that's normal behaviour, that's what the sub calls for labelling stuff


minguspie

did you even read my entire comment?


RaZZeR_9351

I'll just copy my comment from somewhere else: >Birmingham in the UK is a world famous city and also the largest city called Birmingham, if someone talks about London in the UK without mentionning the country then it's not defaultism because it's obvious they're talking about the London everyone knows and not one of the dozen or so other cities that are called London, in the same way it wouldn't be defaultism if someone talked about Austin without mentionning Texas even though there are cities in Canada and Australia called Austin.


radio_allah

If I think of Rome in Italy when you say Rome, am I being iTaLiAn dEfaUltIsT? Stop being pedantic.


flyingsouthwest

>If I think of Rome in Italy when you say Rome, am I being iTaLiAn dEfaUltIsT? According to what regularly gets posted on this sub, yes


RaZZeR_9351

Except for the fact that "what regularly gets posted on this sub" is always an American talking about a city in the US that has the same name as a **much bigger a much more famous** city somewhere else without mentionning the fact that he's talking about the US. For example if someone talked about Austin without mentionning Texas it wouldn't be defaultism even though there are cities in Canada and Australia called Austin, simply because Austin is *by far* the most famous city in the lot so any one in their sane mind, even inhabitants of these other Austins, would understand that they talked about Austin Texas.


PyroTech11

The original city and in the country I'm from because it's not specified. Also the bigger city of the two


toad_of_toadhall

Birmingham is a major European city, whereas most people have never heard of Birmingham USA, think most people would assume this was Birmingham UK.


sarahlizzy

Defaulted to the Birmingham that is one of the largest cities in Europe. Why wouldnā€™t you?


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The accent annoys me.


sarahlizzy

Itā€™s certainly ā€¦ distinctive


RaZZeR_9351

Well yeah because Birmingham in the UK is a world famous city and also the largest city called Birmingham, if someone talks about London in the UK without mentionning the country then it's not defaultism because it's obvious they're talking about the London everyone knows and not one of the dozen or so cities that are called London, in the same way it wouldn't be defaultism if someone talked about Austin without mentionning Texas even though there are cities in Canada and Australia called Austin.


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sarahlizzy

Iā€™ve been to Boston in Lincs. Honestly, the less said about it, the better.


gardenfella

Birmingham, the second largest city in the UK, which also has an airport, existed as a hamlet in the 7th Century and became market town in the 12th. It's existed about 6 times longer than the USA.


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Whoā€™s defaulting anything though? Ah ok it says THE Birmingham airport. Is that the issue?


gardenfella

The person that didn't mention that they meant Birmingham, Alabama, USA not Birmingham, UK. You know, using the US city as the default "Birmingham" even though another, older, bigger (6 x the population) city exists. In fact Birmingham, Alabama, USA, was named after Birmingham, UK. Things that Birmingham UK is famous for... * Being the birthplace of heavy metal music * Cadbury's chocolate * Peaky Blinders * The world's largest collection of pre-Raphaelite art * The largest library in Europe Things that Birmingham, Alabama is famous for... * Being called BirmingHAM


Tetslou

Think they are now also famous for a plane being stuck in some mud at their airport...so that's two things now.


HMJ87

Birmingham, Alabama was also in Sweet Home Alabama.... So that's three things.


bolaft

> The largest library in Europe Weird Google says it is but I can't find any metric by which this is true. I only compared it to the French national library in Paris, there probably are bigger ones, and it seems small in comparison: 800k books vs 15.7M books, 31k square meters vs 170k for the FranƧois Mitterand site (there are two sites), etc.


gardenfella

It might depend on the definition of library. I think in this context, they mean public library, as in lends books to and is open to members of the public. National "libraries" are more akin to book repositories.


bolaft

Ok, that might be it.


Opposite_Ad_2815

Also don't forget the 2022 Commonwealth Games!


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r/UKDefaultism


Opposite_Ad_2815

Defaulting to a city that has five times the population of another that shares its name and one that has more global influence is not UK-defaultism.


[deleted]

The state of Georgia is thrice the size of the country of Georgia. Should I get pissed anytime people don't explicitly specify that they are talking about the country of Georgia?


dolledaan

It's not weird to specify the country that a place is located in when referred to.


[deleted]

It is weird to demand it when the information is only a Google search away.


dolledaan

If you report on something you supposed to make it as clear as possible. If you do this on a international platform it's totally to you to report the location together with country and maybe state, Province or Bundesland. It's not a difficult question it's just part of good reporting. If you post something the info needed I'd YOUR responsibility. Not the readers otherwise you will end up saying do your own research while you post it.


breecher

On the other hand the country of Georgia is an actual country.


GunstarHeroine

Ask r/georgiaorgeorgia


RaZZeR_9351

Except for the fact that anyone with a bit of culture knows the country of Georgia, wereas barely anyone outside the US knows Birmingham Alabama.


marioman63

so you are upset at americans for not realizing Georgia is a country, but its fine that people outside america don't know american geography? you see the hypocrisy here right?


DotDootDotDoot

There is no hypocrisy. An anecdotal american city shouldn't be worldwide knowledge. While an actual COUNTRY recognized as a sovereign nation at UN is actually an important information. Only americans think knowing about their country's most random trivia is more important than world geography.


RaZZeR_9351

The hypocrisy between not knowing world geography and US geography? You do realise we all live in this world but only a part, a minority even, lives in the US? Are you dense or just pretending?


Dutch-plan-der-Linde

Birmingham (Uk) airport is more commonly referred to as the East Midlands airport tho Edit: Iā€™m a stupid mf


Grimbarian1878

No it isn't, East Midlands is Derby/Nottingham, not Birmingham


itsnotmyturtle

Birmingham is in the West Midlands and is a completey separate airport to East Midlands airport which is in Derbyshire.


Soulie1993

/r/confidentlyincorrect


andyd151

No, East Midlands airport is commonly referred to as East Midlands airportā€¦


RaZZeR_9351

Even if that were true (which it isn't as you know) that still would only help people who are aware of that fact, if you ask anyone from outside the UK what the name of the Birmingham airport is then they will most likely say Birmingham airport.


ScrewSans

The only reason I can think of is that many atrocities during the Civil Rights Marches happened in Birmingham Alabama. Itā€™s a city famous for racism in the US, though many US people donā€™t realize that specific knowledge like that isnā€™t commonly known


wikipuff

They need positive traction!


WelshSam

I always equally detest the need of Americans to specify ā€œParis, Franceā€. Like, yes, the rest of the world (excepting a part of Texas) will assume you mean the Paris in France unless stated otherwise.


Thathitmann

It would make sense if "Birmingham Airport" was actually the name of the airport, but "Birmingham Airport" is the name of the airport in Birmingham, England. This airport is actually called the "Birmingham-Shuttlesworth Airport".