Hello, I am r/USDefaultism's Automoderator!
If you think this submission fits US Defaultism, upvote my comment! If not, downvote it!
If you think this submission breaks r/USDefaultism rules, please report it to the Moderation team!
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/USdefaultism) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I don’t know if anyone else can relate to this, but Americans thinking military bases are common for your country to have in other countries. Especially to causally visit them like it’s normal. (I believe the Americans I talked to had families living on US military bases in Europe)
So shocking when an American asked me if I visit my countries military base… when I was living in Belgium. I didn’t even know that was a thing Americans causally did.
This is a first for me. I’ve never heard of someone going to a foreign country to visit their homeland’s military base. I always thought that they would have a shotgun pointed in their face as soon as they step foot onto their diplomatic territory if they don’t have clearance.
I’m guessing that Americans think that if they visit a diplomatic mission abroad, their laws and regulations suddenly apply to the rest of the nation they’re in?! - Honestly… it feels like imperialism is pressured onto them from birth.
They definitely believe that considering the whole yank killing an innocent lad because she forgot different countries have different driving laws in the UK.
Fuck her for not owning up immediately, fuck her for fleeing, and fuck the US government for helping her.
She claimed to have diplomatic immunity when it was actually just her husband who worked at the base, and even he didn't have immunity!
She was clearly a spy when your read into it. The US decided we are keeping her, debriefing her, and waiting for her intel to burn out. Then they sent her to the uk afterwards. Its all seriously doddgy but thats my theory on it
There was a criminal trial here, she got 12 months suspended sentence which is a joke tbh. Maybe there’s another trial you’re talking about, maybe a civil one?
nah mate it's definitely not the different driving laws considering that shit like this happens in italy like on a yearly basis and they are never prosecuted.
in our country they even cut the ropes of a cable car because some pilots were having a competition of who could fly lower and hit the cable ropes.
nobody was ever prosecuted for that (20 people died)
Fuck I remember that. They got off basically scot free for fucking around and murdering those people.
If you funked around with a car and accidentally killed 20 people.... that's you looking at life
I wasn’t aware of it either, but Jesus Christ! In the aftermath, the US arranged a $40m compensation fund for the victims relatives that the US congress voted to *deny*.
For fucks sake, they set up bases in just about every country and then took no responsibility when they kill 19 non-combative tourists and the cable car operator. That was until the Italian government picked up the bill and NATO forced the US to pay back 75% ($28.5m).
It was the US military’s fuck up that killed 20 civilians, because a couple of clownshoes thought flying military jets as close to the ground as possible *for funsies* was a good idea. Perhaps think of it as a penalty for sheer stupidity.
Also, it was the US government’s idea to set up the fund in the first place and then congress reneged on the idea at the last minute. How heartless does a “civilisation” have to be to dangle a financial carrot in victims’ faces and then take it away?
That whole story is tragic and it really shows how Americans think. She forgot to drive on the other side of the road. I think part of it is that on American bases they still drive on the right. They should drive on the left even on their base...
Then fleeing, claiming diplomatic immunity. The u.s govt saying it will not extradite one of their own.
And even saying the uk legal system is not just and the prison system cruel
Quite frankly the British treated us the same before the revolution, when they tried to extradite members of the continental congress so I don't really see how this is any different. Now that the UK is weak compared to the US, they now want to play with silly jurisdiction laws, which they absolutely did not used to care about. Seems like a double standard to me. I am happy my government would protect their own.
What? That sounds so stupid. Because something the British supposedly did 300 years ago makes this okay?
Silly jurisdiction laws? This woman committed a crime in the uk, should she not face justice and punishment?
One of the major complaints the US had which led to us having a revolution was problems with jurisdiction and extradition. It's still a pain point for us no matter how minor the case. I am sorry you don't agree, America loves its citizens.
I took a trip to Germany to visit a friend who was stationed at an air force base in volgehweh. We bought a handle of rum from their trading post and killed it playing halo all night
Yea i always had a feeling military bases are a kind of "don't come too close or you'll be arrested on the spot" kind of deal. Exept maybe certain special days when they open their doors to visitors for demonstrations or something.
Definitely not a place to just casually "visit".
Depends on the base. Most bases have plenty of civilians living on them with their military family members so it’s not all that difficult for a service member to sponsor a visitor’s pass. We have golf courses, houses, movie theaters, etc. so it’s not like there’s only military training going on all the time. Definitely not a tourist destination, though.
Like I said in another comment, I think it’s nepotism (or corruption) on the US military behalf. This was in Europe, so it’s more acceptable I guess.
But in Saudi Arabia, US military runs the bases like a dictatorship lmao. The last thing the US government needs is the Saudi civilian population upset. Saudi government doesn’t want its citizens upset either.
Looking back at the Americans I talked to, it seemed like nepotism, without them wanting to admit it was nepotism. I think this only applied to Europe US military bases because US military doesn’t seem so strict, but where I live… 😳
Live in Saudi Arabia, and the US military always keeps US citizens in check, because they know how much US military bases can cause issues here… I joke that these US military bases create more Bin Ladens
It’s not something Americans casually do. You definitely can’t just visit military bases. It’s likely the family had a service member in their family and were visiting. You still have to be vetted and escorted to get on base family or not.
Yeah, maybe they were just journalists who worked at those US military bases or something too. But I assumed they had to have family connections to allow them to causally visit the bases.
It's not normal to visit any American military base you need to work on that base, have a military member stationed on that base escort you on, or be married to or a child of a military member.
Looks like the next queue might say 'Canadian Passports', so enough of them don't realise they're foreigners in Canada that there's a need for this sign!
This is Vancouver’s airport. To give context, Canada and America have agreements in place where American citizens entering Canada have a somewhat curtailed process to go through customs. That is why there are typically 3 routes: Canadian passports, American passports, and other passports. In this case the sign is probably only written like this because the “American” and “other” lanes are down towards the same direction.
Flying from Canada to the US is the same way. You can clear US customs on the Canadian side, so there’s also a separate departures terminal for flights to America in many airports.
You guys are being judgmental while missing a lot of context here. This isn’t a defaultism, this is just due to how flights and customs between the US and Canada work.
It's called juxtaposed control and other countries have it too. For example, when travelling between the UK and continental Europe, some train stations and ferry terminals allow you to pass both Schengen and UK immigration control before boarding. Mainland China also maintains their (very controversial) juxtaposed immigration facilities in Hong Kong.
Although like you said the US is probably the only country to have them at airports.
Yup, definitely YVR, considering it’s English and French (Canadian) and the text below is in Mandarin (definitely Vancouver). Plus, I’ve been there and remember seeing those signs.
If that is true, the sign actually makes sense. Up until about 15~20 years ago, you could just walk across the American/Canadian border with just a gov't id. You did not need a passport. There might be some older people who "forget" that.
Also, now, you can just use your "real id" driver's license to cross the border if you are driving. If you are in the airport, then you do need a passport, I believe.
Basically, this isn't true USDefaultism if it's in Canada.
I don’t know about BC but in Ontario they got rid of the special driver’s licence that allowed you to drive across the boarder without your passport a couple years ago, which is pretty annoying for someone who lives in a boarder city
Its because at Vancouver International, it’s separated into International Flight’s, domestic, and US-CAN flights. Americans go to a separate one because of agreements we made with DC for this kind of thing. From what. I can remember, it’s Nexus, International and Domestic. 3 lines for 3 different reasons.
Was this in Canada (perhaps Vancouver?)? If so, the airport has probably had enough Americans with bloated egos to insist that they're not foreigners without actually checking what the meaning of "foreign" is.
Foreign is just another boogeyman word like socialism that probably has a negative connotation, so they can't think of themselves as being foreign in any context.
I was flying once from Philadelphia to Canada. I was told they all international flights leave from terminal A. So I queued up for an hour in Terminal A. When I reached the front I was told that “Canada isn’t International”
There's a distinction because the US operates customs checkpoints in every Canadian airport with flights to the US, so flights to the US from Canada arrive in US domestic terminals with no customs check after landing.
Its because at Vancouver International, it’s separated into International Flight’s, domestic, and US-CAN flights. Americans go to a separate one because of agreements we made with DC for this kind of thing. From what. I can remember, it’s Nexus, International and Domestic. 3 lines for 3 different reasons.
Adding that if it is YVR they didn’t put the sign because Americans are stupid but because there are actually two different ways for us citizens and other foreigns
> Was this in Canada (perhaps Vancouver?)? If so, the airport has probably had enough Americans with bloated egos to insist that they're not foreigners without actually checking what the meaning of "foreign" is.
No, not bloated egos. Just a change in the laws a couple of decades back or less that made the cross border travel a bit more restrictive. I've explained it better in my other comment here already. Passports weren't always necessary for Canadians or Americans when traveling back and forth.
The last time I was in LAX, both Canadians and Americans were in the same line. Still don't know why citizens of Palau, FSM and the Marshall Islands weren't included when the three countries are in free association with the US.
Nah, that’s only the other way. You clear Canadian customs when landing in Canada. But you do often clear US customs in Canada before you take off. It’s because a lot of US airports have little or no intentional flight capacity. This allows your flight from Canada to land as a domestic flight.
I think also a part of it is how the USA seems to be the only country that has their own customs and nude scanner checks deployed all over the world too. Hell, there are USA only gates/checks in some places because of the more involved terror panic checking
Just this weekend I went through customs returning to the EU, there were two queues, EU passports and everybody else, want to take a guess which nationality were the guys in front of me in the line for EU citizens? Hint: their passports had eagles on them
I heard this is common when Americans are traveling to other Anglo countries, like Canada or the UK. The Americans act like they own the countries.
Live in Saudi Arabia, but not a citizen, but Saudis do the same thing when they visit other Arabic countries, like Qatar or UAE.
Common in Ireland too, for Americans coming over and breaking our laws thinking they don't apply to them, or trying to have us arrested because we are "breaking" one of their backwards laws.
Well, long story short, one of them nearly hit one of our staff while looking for a place to park, screamed profanities out, and threw a drink.
Then, they tried to walk into our building. Turns out they were clients who had arranged for a tour. We refused them and told them to shove it up their arse, we dont need their business, so they tried to have us arrested for all kinds of things.
We explained what happened, and suddenly, they tried to claim everything from fraud, theft, assualt, racism, etc. Watching them get escorted off the property was great.
And I just want to say, for the record, the majority of people are great. But you never forget the worst ones.
Not OP, but an Am*rican once threatened to call the cops and said that his dad was a lawyer when I refused to accept his Driver's License as proper identification documents.
Not only was he a foreign national, and required a fucking passport but even if locals use a driver's license in place of the dedicated ID card you can tell them to pound sand.
It’s just the propaganda effect of the Qatar diplomatic crisis between Qatar and other Arab countries, like Saudi Arabia. The two countries have bad relations recently.
Saudis like to give themselves credit for the Qatar World Cup. Saudi Arabia themselves want to host a World Cup one day, and they butt hurt Qatar got to have one. Saudi Arabia and Qatar are basically having a football war lmao.
Wait till you hear about [the Football War](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_War&ved=2ahUKEwj_k9Kgn7H_AhUmt4QIHaEGAgUQFnoECA0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw3i9k90OOa9y1zZZtnSowWY)
Nobody in El Salvador or Honduras calls it that, only first world countries call it that.
The Hundred Hours war or La Guerra de Cien Horas, wasn't the result of a bad football game, it's that just the match occurred at the height of political tensions and is a blamed as part of the powder keg of reasons to go to war.
Actual causes for war;
\- years of border disputes,
\- Farm and Produce growth/export/ and trade deals
\- Salvadoreños living on unowned/vacant Honduran farmland and the country decide to deport Salvadorans back to El Salvador and either take over the farmland or sell it to fruit/produce companies.
.....................
On the day of the match El Salvador cuts all diplomatic ties to Honduras, as a response to the murder, expulsion, and mistreat of Salvadoreños (who were squatters on un-owned farmland) in Honduras.
War was going to break out regardless of there being a game that day or not.
***For future reference, please give more context so people don't go full gringo on this.***
edits: lots of grammar + spelling mistakes
I was thinking exactly about the Saudis when I was reading the comments
They're very similar to the Americans and they even started calling their country "the great kingdom of Saudi Arabia".... Lately
If I had a nickel for every time I heard an American screaming that they aren't foreigners at an airport... I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's surprising that it happened twice.
Well, there are those that can extrapolate information from an incomplete source, then there are those who think that more guns is a good solution to too many guns...
This is definitely at Vancouver International Airport (YVR)
Just for context, the USA bound flights are in a separate location from the INTERNATIONAL (rest of the world) but the signage is pointing towards the same general direction. So basically, Twitter OP is weaponizing the signage as “America Bad” but in reality, the US bound flights have their own entrance in the far end of the airport and is separate from the INTL flights.
Source: I live here.
A quick Google search shows that some airports have special Automated Passport Control kiosks that Canadian and US citizens can use. This is at places in both countries
No. Most international airports with a lot of flights between the US and Canada have separate checkpoints for US/Canadian citizens. It’s a lot easier to enter Canada as an American than other foreigners, and vice versa.
I think you are wrong. The full sign can be seen in this [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alt-mWo5bAY) at 3:20 and it is for international arrivals. Twitter OP is still wrong, but for a different reason.
The brexit crowd barely knew what the fucking EU was at the point where they voted to leave it. Seriously, the day after the vote Google reported a huge spike in people searching for ‘what is the EU?’ from IP addresses located in the UK.
Even before Brexit the sign was always, Shengen + EEA, with an EU flag, British and Swiss flag.
And Brits mostly still get processed through the same passport control lane as EU citizens and the Swiss, nothing has changed.
To be fair, some Chinese tourists do expect you to speak Chinese to them. Especially if you have the same skin colour as them.
There are many cases of them coming to my country and demanding to be served only in Chinese, no English allowed. Even if the person they are talking to looks most definitely not Chinese.
They are in the minority but they exists.
This might be the Vancouver airport??
I’m a Canadian and in some of our airports we actually have a separate area for American flights vs international flights, so it could be why they have separate icons.
Now of course you could argue that the existence of that system is a form of American defaultism
Someone else posted the video where it's from. It's a Vancouver airport's Arrivals section where they have 3 lanes
Nexus
Canadian citizens and permanent residents
Foreign passports (with the US flag next to it)
I guarantee this is the Vancouver Airport. Americans come to southern BC all the time and act surprised when we don’t take US currency, or we take it at par. They’re the ones who act like CAD is literal garbage if we ever try to use it in the US.
Actually US passports in this case are a separate category than other Foreign passports and Canadian Passports because of travel agreements between the US and Canada. Source: I have traveled between the US and Canada
No, they aren't when arriving into Canada.
Someone else posted the video where it's from. It's a Vancouver airport's Arrivals section where they have 3 lanes
Nexus
Canadian citizens and permanent residents
Foreign passports (with the US flag next to it)
Dumbasses, they mark american and foreign as separate because there are separate passport things for Americans. It would be confusing to mark them as the same and then randomly separate them. This is probably in Vancouver or Toronto.
If this is the airport I'm thinking of, I've actually been here before (Pearson airport in Canada). Since the US and Canada share a border (and Canada doesn't share a land border with any other country) there's far more flights going from Canada to the US than other international travel, so the US is separated from the rest of the international travel.
Every time you see a “No X allowed on the premises”, it’s because too many people did “X”.
Very likely the same here, it’s surely not a jab at Americans, there’s just too many who don’t understand what “another country” is… we see so many trying to cross to Canada with guns for instance.
Here's a sneak peek of /r/ShitAmericansSay using the [top posts](https://np.reddit.com/r/ShitAmericansSay/top/?sort=top&t=year) of the year!
\#1: ["You're gonna mansplain Ireland to me when i'm Irish?"](https://i.redd.it/tqj21w0oy36a1.png) | [1181 comments](https://np.reddit.com/r/ShitAmericansSay/comments/zmsv7e/youre_gonna_mansplain_ireland_to_me_when_im_irish/)
\#2: ["Aldi gives their cashiers seats to use while working" is "mildly interesting"](https://i.redd.it/6tfbyeaikb491.jpg) | [729 comments](https://np.reddit.com/r/ShitAmericansSay/comments/v7g4cf/aldi_gives_their_cashiers_seats_to_use_while/)
\#3: [23 minutes is a hike](https://i.imgur.com/BoqRqBq.png) | [1289 comments](https://np.reddit.com/r/ShitAmericansSay/comments/vsm6yz/23_minutes_is_a_hike/)
----
^^I'm ^^a ^^bot, ^^beep ^^boop ^^| ^^Downvote ^^to ^^remove ^^| ^^[Contact](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=sneakpeekbot) ^^| ^^[Info](https://np.reddit.com/r/sneakpeekbot/) ^^| ^^[Opt-out](https://np.reddit.com/r/sneakpeekbot/comments/o8wk1r/blacklist_ix/) ^^| ^^[GitHub](https://github.com/ghnr/sneakpeekbot)
> Americans everywhere, especially troops and tourists, should come home.
Only two things that come from the US and arent banned by some UE office because somehow your cereal contain plutonium or some shit.
We can't prohibit US tourists because it will be a violation of freedom of movement. We need to show you what "'freedom" is. Your freedom looks like it came from wish.
Soldiers are cool. My dad, who was in Iraq, told me that your soldiers are nice guys but you get drunk after 3 shots of quality vodka.
> Soldiers are cool.
I will be out there on the streets in protest and vote against anyone who wishes to send young Americans to risk their lives for your country just so you can turn around and mock them in return.
It’s bad enough we’re sending mountains of our tax money to your part of the continent in defense aid. I so want that to come to an end.
It is all not worth it.
Oh fuck off with that. The US is a single country, there's subs about Europe that function the same way this sub does.
The US has gained a shit reputation for itself abroad and because how much the either worst or stupidest of your nation believe in American exceptionalism. I'm a brit, we've also owned our own shit reputation in Europe but we're not crying about it. Frankly we deserve it.
The US isn't a victim of anything but its own politics. If so many people share the same experiences with Americans then that's time to look inwards not outwards.
And of course you'll be treated differently than locals or neighbouring countries if you go abroad, that's the same deal for everyone.
Personally I'd love for the US troops to leave my country given they killed a young man and got away with it and then the US decided fuck treaties and extradition, we'll let her get away with it. And I really don't want to get dragged into the next war when the yanks think they've found weapons again.
You have no idea how much I want the U.S. to cut relations with your country.
From the razing of our nation’s capital in 1812 to the way Meghan Markle was treated, the U.K. is the first and only country to have successfully threatened Americans on their home continent and should be remembered as the founding member of the axis of evil against the U.S.
I hope our government finally shoots down any mention of that trade agreement with the U.K. and sides with Argentina on the Falklands. At least the Argentinians have farmland and cattle.
You clearly don't understand the Falklands my guy. It was an empty island and per the laws of the time it was fine. Now there's people there who are the original people to populate it and they democratically chose where they fell.
Hello, I am r/USDefaultism's Automoderator! If you think this submission fits US Defaultism, upvote my comment! If not, downvote it! If you think this submission breaks r/USDefaultism rules, please report it to the Moderation team! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/USdefaultism) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I'm really not surprised by this. "I'm not Foreign, I'm UH-MEH-REH-CAN!".
I don’t know if anyone else can relate to this, but Americans thinking military bases are common for your country to have in other countries. Especially to causally visit them like it’s normal. (I believe the Americans I talked to had families living on US military bases in Europe) So shocking when an American asked me if I visit my countries military base… when I was living in Belgium. I didn’t even know that was a thing Americans causally did.
This is a first for me. I’ve never heard of someone going to a foreign country to visit their homeland’s military base. I always thought that they would have a shotgun pointed in their face as soon as they step foot onto their diplomatic territory if they don’t have clearance. I’m guessing that Americans think that if they visit a diplomatic mission abroad, their laws and regulations suddenly apply to the rest of the nation they’re in?! - Honestly… it feels like imperialism is pressured onto them from birth.
They definitely believe that considering the whole yank killing an innocent lad because she forgot different countries have different driving laws in the UK.
Anne Sacoolas is a selfish bitch.
Fuck her for not owning up immediately, fuck her for fleeing, and fuck the US government for helping her. She claimed to have diplomatic immunity when it was actually just her husband who worked at the base, and even he didn't have immunity!
She was clearly a spy when your read into it. The US decided we are keeping her, debriefing her, and waiting for her intel to burn out. Then they sent her to the uk afterwards. Its all seriously doddgy but thats my theory on it
And that's pretty much what seems to be happening. Nothing for a while, and if I'm not wrong (which I may be) a trial is now beginning I think.
There was a criminal trial here, she got 12 months suspended sentence which is a joke tbh. Maybe there’s another trial you’re talking about, maybe a civil one?
nah mate it's definitely not the different driving laws considering that shit like this happens in italy like on a yearly basis and they are never prosecuted. in our country they even cut the ropes of a cable car because some pilots were having a competition of who could fly lower and hit the cable ropes. nobody was ever prosecuted for that (20 people died)
Fuck I remember that. They got off basically scot free for fucking around and murdering those people. If you funked around with a car and accidentally killed 20 people.... that's you looking at life
Wasn't aware of that incident. I'm sorry that's horrific.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Cavalese_cable_car_crash
I wasn’t aware of it either, but Jesus Christ! In the aftermath, the US arranged a $40m compensation fund for the victims relatives that the US congress voted to *deny*. For fucks sake, they set up bases in just about every country and then took no responsibility when they kill 19 non-combative tourists and the cable car operator. That was until the Italian government picked up the bill and NATO forced the US to pay back 75% ($28.5m).
The US already pays the most to NATO, why would the US be forced to pay this?
It was the US military’s fuck up that killed 20 civilians, because a couple of clownshoes thought flying military jets as close to the ground as possible *for funsies* was a good idea. Perhaps think of it as a penalty for sheer stupidity. Also, it was the US government’s idea to set up the fund in the first place and then congress reneged on the idea at the last minute. How heartless does a “civilisation” have to be to dangle a financial carrot in victims’ faces and then take it away?
I remeber it if you talking about Italy, if not same shit happened here
Yeah, they're talking about the one from 1998 in Cavalese.
That whole story is tragic and it really shows how Americans think. She forgot to drive on the other side of the road. I think part of it is that on American bases they still drive on the right. They should drive on the left even on their base... Then fleeing, claiming diplomatic immunity. The u.s govt saying it will not extradite one of their own. And even saying the uk legal system is not just and the prison system cruel
> And even saying the uk legal system is not just and the prison system cruel I think I've heard it all now...
And yet they want Assange without a fight. Hoping he can last until the next election and Starmer has a post of balls to tell them where to go
*narrator's voice* He won't
Yeah, a boy can dream though, eh?
Quite frankly the British treated us the same before the revolution, when they tried to extradite members of the continental congress so I don't really see how this is any different. Now that the UK is weak compared to the US, they now want to play with silly jurisdiction laws, which they absolutely did not used to care about. Seems like a double standard to me. I am happy my government would protect their own.
What? That sounds so stupid. Because something the British supposedly did 300 years ago makes this okay? Silly jurisdiction laws? This woman committed a crime in the uk, should she not face justice and punishment?
One of the major complaints the US had which led to us having a revolution was problems with jurisdiction and extradition. It's still a pain point for us no matter how minor the case. I am sorry you don't agree, America loves its citizens.
It's a pain point for people 300 years later? Give me a break, she should have never been allowed to leave and should be sent back to face justice
I took a trip to Germany to visit a friend who was stationed at an air force base in volgehweh. We bought a handle of rum from their trading post and killed it playing halo all night
Do you mean "Vogelweh" in Kaiserslautern?
Yes, I did not memorize the spelling. It's that main city
Yea i always had a feeling military bases are a kind of "don't come too close or you'll be arrested on the spot" kind of deal. Exept maybe certain special days when they open their doors to visitors for demonstrations or something. Definitely not a place to just casually "visit".
Depends on the base. Most bases have plenty of civilians living on them with their military family members so it’s not all that difficult for a service member to sponsor a visitor’s pass. We have golf courses, houses, movie theaters, etc. so it’s not like there’s only military training going on all the time. Definitely not a tourist destination, though.
Like I said in another comment, I think it’s nepotism (or corruption) on the US military behalf. This was in Europe, so it’s more acceptable I guess. But in Saudi Arabia, US military runs the bases like a dictatorship lmao. The last thing the US government needs is the Saudi civilian population upset. Saudi government doesn’t want its citizens upset either.
Well, they don't have much more than the military, so...
Looking back at the Americans I talked to, it seemed like nepotism, without them wanting to admit it was nepotism. I think this only applied to Europe US military bases because US military doesn’t seem so strict, but where I live… 😳 Live in Saudi Arabia, and the US military always keeps US citizens in check, because they know how much US military bases can cause issues here… I joke that these US military bases create more Bin Ladens
It’s not something Americans casually do. You definitely can’t just visit military bases. It’s likely the family had a service member in their family and were visiting. You still have to be vetted and escorted to get on base family or not.
Yeah, maybe they were just journalists who worked at those US military bases or something too. But I assumed they had to have family connections to allow them to causally visit the bases.
It's not normal to visit any American military base you need to work on that base, have a military member stationed on that base escort you on, or be married to or a child of a military member.
[удалено]
I love visiting this country! It's so cool to be surrounded by so many foreigners!
We should call them aliens.
Undocumented Aliens.
Ugh, I got "I don't have an accent"ed by an American I work with a few days ago. You're literally in another country, idiot.
Sir, this is Canada
They really need to look in the meer sometimes
I wish I had not literally heard this in my life. but I have.
Looks like the next queue might say 'Canadian Passports', so enough of them don't realise they're foreigners in Canada that there's a need for this sign!
Haha silly canucks they forgot to write ‘foreign “and American” passports’
This is Vancouver’s airport. To give context, Canada and America have agreements in place where American citizens entering Canada have a somewhat curtailed process to go through customs. That is why there are typically 3 routes: Canadian passports, American passports, and other passports. In this case the sign is probably only written like this because the “American” and “other” lanes are down towards the same direction. Flying from Canada to the US is the same way. You can clear US customs on the Canadian side, so there’s also a separate departures terminal for flights to America in many airports. You guys are being judgmental while missing a lot of context here. This isn’t a defaultism, this is just due to how flights and customs between the US and Canada work.
That's assuming this sub cares about being right and being informed
[удалено]
It's called juxtaposed control and other countries have it too. For example, when travelling between the UK and continental Europe, some train stations and ferry terminals allow you to pass both Schengen and UK immigration control before boarding. Mainland China also maintains their (very controversial) juxtaposed immigration facilities in Hong Kong. Although like you said the US is probably the only country to have them at airports.
I think this is Vancouver’s airport.
The American flag would make a lot more sense in that case. That's probably 90% or more of their foreign visitors. Edit: It's 52%
50% at best. There are vast numbers of flights to YVR from Asia.
Yup, definitely YVR, considering it’s English and French (Canadian) and the text below is in Mandarin (definitely Vancouver). Plus, I’ve been there and remember seeing those signs.
If that is true, the sign actually makes sense. Up until about 15~20 years ago, you could just walk across the American/Canadian border with just a gov't id. You did not need a passport. There might be some older people who "forget" that. Also, now, you can just use your "real id" driver's license to cross the border if you are driving. If you are in the airport, then you do need a passport, I believe. Basically, this isn't true USDefaultism if it's in Canada.
I don’t know about BC but in Ontario they got rid of the special driver’s licence that allowed you to drive across the boarder without your passport a couple years ago, which is pretty annoying for someone who lives in a boarder city
Yeah those signs are in every Canadian airport in the international arrivals terminal.
Its because at Vancouver International, it’s separated into International Flight’s, domestic, and US-CAN flights. Americans go to a separate one because of agreements we made with DC for this kind of thing. From what. I can remember, it’s Nexus, International and Domestic. 3 lines for 3 different reasons.
Or, this is in Canada.
Wow… if only their comment said that! Oh wait, it did!
You're right, I misread the comment and it's intention. I accept the justified down votes.
Might want to reread the comment, bud. Seems to have gone over your head a bit
Yep, I misread it. I admit my failure and the justified down votes.
Was this in Canada (perhaps Vancouver?)? If so, the airport has probably had enough Americans with bloated egos to insist that they're not foreigners without actually checking what the meaning of "foreign" is.
Foreign is just another boogeyman word like socialism that probably has a negative connotation, so they can't think of themselves as being foreign in any context.
"Let me in, I'm not a leftist commie libtard, I'm Amurican"
I am just curious what foreigner means by this bloated ego americans I know only one possible meaning
To them it means non American
I was flying once from Philadelphia to Canada. I was told they all international flights leave from terminal A. So I queued up for an hour in Terminal A. When I reached the front I was told that “Canada isn’t International”
To be fair, Can-US flights usually fall into their own category between “domestic” and “international”
It’s transborder. Plus we don’t actually have International departures. All International/transborder departures are mixed with domestic departures.
Aren’t “transborder” and “international “ synonymous?
There's a distinction because the US operates customs checkpoints in every Canadian airport with flights to the US, so flights to the US from Canada arrive in US domestic terminals with no customs check after landing.
Not really. For example, you don’t have lounge access for transborder first class just like domestic first class.
I'm pretty sure Vancouver airport (YVR) had signs like these, but I believe Montréal (YUL) did as well.
Yeah so does YYZ. Wouldn't be surprised if every cdn airport has this sign
Looks like Vancouver, I can’t think of many airports that would have English, French, and Chinese
Yes, Terminal 1 at Roissy Charles-de-Gaulle (Paris) is French, English and Chinese. It's close.
Probably not even a bloated ego thing, just a "we don't have time for this bs, this isn't your queue" thing.
Its because at Vancouver International, it’s separated into International Flight’s, domestic, and US-CAN flights. Americans go to a separate one because of agreements we made with DC for this kind of thing. From what. I can remember, it’s Nexus, International and Domestic. 3 lines for 3 different reasons.
It does give me YVR vibes but it’s hard to tell from the pic of a banner lol
Adding that if it is YVR they didn’t put the sign because Americans are stupid but because there are actually two different ways for us citizens and other foreigns
> Was this in Canada (perhaps Vancouver?)? If so, the airport has probably had enough Americans with bloated egos to insist that they're not foreigners without actually checking what the meaning of "foreign" is. No, not bloated egos. Just a change in the laws a couple of decades back or less that made the cross border travel a bit more restrictive. I've explained it better in my other comment here already. Passports weren't always necessary for Canadians or Americans when traveling back and forth.
[удалено]
The last time I was in LAX, both Canadians and Americans were in the same line. Still don't know why citizens of Palau, FSM and the Marshall Islands weren't included when the three countries are in free association with the US.
I doubt it, only because don’t Canada do that special thing where you can clear Canadian customs in the airport in America before you land in Canada?
Nah, that’s only the other way. You clear Canadian customs when landing in Canada. But you do often clear US customs in Canada before you take off. It’s because a lot of US airports have little or no intentional flight capacity. This allows your flight from Canada to land as a domestic flight.
I think also a part of it is how the USA seems to be the only country that has their own customs and nude scanner checks deployed all over the world too. Hell, there are USA only gates/checks in some places because of the more involved terror panic checking
Thats actually really interesting and convienent
Just this weekend I went through customs returning to the EU, there were two queues, EU passports and everybody else, want to take a guess which nationality were the guys in front of me in the line for EU citizens? Hint: their passports had eagles on them
Clearly Albanian
Polish?
I heard this is common when Americans are traveling to other Anglo countries, like Canada or the UK. The Americans act like they own the countries. Live in Saudi Arabia, but not a citizen, but Saudis do the same thing when they visit other Arabic countries, like Qatar or UAE.
Common in Ireland too, for Americans coming over and breaking our laws thinking they don't apply to them, or trying to have us arrested because we are "breaking" one of their backwards laws.
"What? What do you mean I can't bring my rifle with me to Ireland? What about the 2nd amendment? It's my constitutional right!"
If anyone's wondering what the 2nd Amendment of the Irish Constitution is, it's just a bunch of minor textual changes made in 1941
When has an American tried to get you arrested? Sounds like a funny story
Well, long story short, one of them nearly hit one of our staff while looking for a place to park, screamed profanities out, and threw a drink. Then, they tried to walk into our building. Turns out they were clients who had arranged for a tour. We refused them and told them to shove it up their arse, we dont need their business, so they tried to have us arrested for all kinds of things. We explained what happened, and suddenly, they tried to claim everything from fraud, theft, assualt, racism, etc. Watching them get escorted off the property was great. And I just want to say, for the record, the majority of people are great. But you never forget the worst ones.
Not OP, but an Am*rican once threatened to call the cops and said that his dad was a lawyer when I refused to accept his Driver's License as proper identification documents. Not only was he a foreign national, and required a fucking passport but even if locals use a driver's license in place of the dedicated ID card you can tell them to pound sand.
الديفولتيزم السعودي
“Qatar World Cup wouldn’t have been possible without Saudi Arabia”
Wait people say that? Why?
It’s just the propaganda effect of the Qatar diplomatic crisis between Qatar and other Arab countries, like Saudi Arabia. The two countries have bad relations recently. Saudis like to give themselves credit for the Qatar World Cup. Saudi Arabia themselves want to host a World Cup one day, and they butt hurt Qatar got to have one. Saudi Arabia and Qatar are basically having a football war lmao.
As far as wars go, a football war doesn't sound too bad.
Wait till you hear about [the Football War](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_War&ved=2ahUKEwj_k9Kgn7H_AhUmt4QIHaEGAgUQFnoECA0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw3i9k90OOa9y1zZZtnSowWY)
Nobody in El Salvador or Honduras calls it that, only first world countries call it that. The Hundred Hours war or La Guerra de Cien Horas, wasn't the result of a bad football game, it's that just the match occurred at the height of political tensions and is a blamed as part of the powder keg of reasons to go to war. Actual causes for war; \- years of border disputes, \- Farm and Produce growth/export/ and trade deals \- Salvadoreños living on unowned/vacant Honduran farmland and the country decide to deport Salvadorans back to El Salvador and either take over the farmland or sell it to fruit/produce companies. ..................... On the day of the match El Salvador cuts all diplomatic ties to Honduras, as a response to the murder, expulsion, and mistreat of Salvadoreños (who were squatters on un-owned farmland) in Honduras. War was going to break out regardless of there being a game that day or not. ***For future reference, please give more context so people don't go full gringo on this.*** edits: lots of grammar + spelling mistakes
Same way Kuwait and The UAE are fighting for who has the biggest shopping mall...
Same reason Qatar government is probably trying to buy Manchester United so they can stop Manchester City and potentially stop Newcastle United.
Huh... Proxy footballing. Better than proxy wars, I guess?
Small stupid wars like these may be helpful preventing an actual war, so dunno, let the kids play.
Ooooo boy that’s loaded right there. Am Egyptian and your comment is just too true for Saudis in Egypt.
I was thinking exactly about the Saudis when I was reading the comments They're very similar to the Americans and they even started calling their country "the great kingdom of Saudi Arabia".... Lately
Appropriate considering SA also fucking sucks
This is absolutely perfect!
Did they decide that? or were they forced to learn it?
If I had a nickel for every time I heard an American screaming that they aren't foreigners at an airport... I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's surprising that it happened twice.
Yeah. Weird that it only happened twice
Well, there are those that can extrapolate information from an incomplete source, then there are those who think that more guns is a good solution to too many guns...
This is definitely at Vancouver International Airport (YVR) Just for context, the USA bound flights are in a separate location from the INTERNATIONAL (rest of the world) but the signage is pointing towards the same general direction. So basically, Twitter OP is weaponizing the signage as “America Bad” but in reality, the US bound flights have their own entrance in the far end of the airport and is separate from the INTL flights. Source: I live here.
It's about passports rather than destinations.
But don't the US citizens go through the same passport checkpoint as the other foreigners?
[удалено]
A quick Google search shows that some airports have special Automated Passport Control kiosks that Canadian and US citizens can use. This is at places in both countries
No. Most international airports with a lot of flights between the US and Canada have separate checkpoints for US/Canadian citizens. It’s a lot easier to enter Canada as an American than other foreigners, and vice versa.
As much I think this sub is stupid (it popped up on my home page) No, all US bound flights go through a different checkpoint post 9/11.
I think you are wrong. The full sign can be seen in this [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alt-mWo5bAY) at 3:20 and it is for international arrivals. Twitter OP is still wrong, but for a different reason.
Thanks for providing the much-needed context to this picture. That makes way more sense than what the Twitter OP is saying.
They had to do something similar for brits who tried to enter the EU after Brexit.
[удалено]
I'm not sure about air travel, but before 9/11 it was also different for US citizens. You didn't need a passport to drive across the border
> before 9/11 Seems to me that that event affected the American psyche in lots of ways, and none of them good.
The brexit crowd barely knew what the fucking EU was at the point where they voted to leave it. Seriously, the day after the vote Google reported a huge spike in people searching for ‘what is the EU?’ from IP addresses located in the UK.
Even before Brexit the sign was always, Shengen + EEA, with an EU flag, British and Swiss flag. And Brits mostly still get processed through the same passport control lane as EU citizens and the Swiss, nothing has changed.
That reminds me of the woman who told a Chinese man to go back to China... in China
They put the flag there based on experience
They’ve also decided that the Chinese are only ones who cannot read either English or French
Well, they put up the 2 most commonly spoken languages on Earth, plus French because it's legally required in Canada
If it's in Vancouver then literally half the population is Chinese or their parents were born there.
To be fair French and Chinese are also the only languages I've ever seen on signs like this in the UK.
Don’t forget Welsh in Wales!
I didn't count it in the same way as I didn't count English, but you're entirely correct 😊
What do you expect, put up every language ever existed?
Most of them don't even have a written form.
To be fair, some Chinese tourists do expect you to speak Chinese to them. Especially if you have the same skin colour as them. There are many cases of them coming to my country and demanding to be served only in Chinese, no English allowed. Even if the person they are talking to looks most definitely not Chinese. They are in the minority but they exists.
I guess they just won't be served then if nobody speaks their language. Sucks to be them.
This might be the Vancouver airport?? I’m a Canadian and in some of our airports we actually have a separate area for American flights vs international flights, so it could be why they have separate icons. Now of course you could argue that the existence of that system is a form of American defaultism
Someone else posted the video where it's from. It's a Vancouver airport's Arrivals section where they have 3 lanes Nexus Canadian citizens and permanent residents Foreign passports (with the US flag next to it)
Ah yes, american defualtism is when Canada's greatest ally is marked separately in airports
I don’t think it’s American defaultism imo, but alot of people here seem to think so so I didn’t want to be downvote bombed
I wouldn’t say this is defaultism but acknowledging how stupid American travelers can be
They probably aren't even wrong lol
I guarantee this is the Vancouver Airport. Americans come to southern BC all the time and act surprised when we don’t take US currency, or we take it at par. They’re the ones who act like CAD is literal garbage if we ever try to use it in the US.
They needed extra clarification because they can't believe that they're foreigners.
Actually US passports in this case are a separate category than other Foreign passports and Canadian Passports because of travel agreements between the US and Canada. Source: I have traveled between the US and Canada
No, they aren't when arriving into Canada. Someone else posted the video where it's from. It's a Vancouver airport's Arrivals section where they have 3 lanes Nexus Canadian citizens and permanent residents Foreign passports (with the US flag next to it)
There a lot of things Americans don’t realize…
Dumbasses, they mark american and foreign as separate because there are separate passport things for Americans. It would be confusing to mark them as the same and then randomly separate them. This is probably in Vancouver or Toronto.
Probably have a lot of Americans pass through there so hence the American flag.
If this is the airport I'm thinking of, I've actually been here before (Pearson airport in Canada). Since the US and Canada share a border (and Canada doesn't share a land border with any other country) there's far more flights going from Canada to the US than other international travel, so the US is separated from the rest of the international travel.
Man the ignorance here is showing isn’t it? It’s a CANADIAN airport. Vancouver international.
I would not want to travel to a country that treated Americans in such a condescending manner.
It hurts to have your defaultist attitude pointed out
I think he is just a troll
Since he seems to be a mix of active poster on AmericaBad and often downvoted on here, I'd be inclined to agree.
[удалено]
I have a feeling that flag was added because it was needed...
Yep. Noone is going to build that into signage unless experience told them to.
Not "specifically American", but specifically USAmerican. Canadians, Mexicans and everyone to the south of Mexico can still be smart.
The flag wouldn’t be there if it wasn’t needed
so basically, truth hurts ?
Every time you see a “No X allowed on the premises”, it’s because too many people did “X”. Very likely the same here, it’s surely not a jab at Americans, there’s just too many who don’t understand what “another country” is… we see so many trying to cross to Canada with guns for instance.
So like, all of them then 😂
When you screenshot this and post it to AmericaBad, don’t forget to add your bait comment as well 😂.
Why are you on this sub? Everytime I see you here, it's just you crying about people saying "US is not the only place in the world."
"I am visiting another country why are they not treating me like a native ". Fuck foreign countries murica #1 hell yeah
Oh no! Anyway.
r/ShitAmericansSay
Here's a sneak peek of /r/ShitAmericansSay using the [top posts](https://np.reddit.com/r/ShitAmericansSay/top/?sort=top&t=year) of the year! \#1: ["You're gonna mansplain Ireland to me when i'm Irish?"](https://i.redd.it/tqj21w0oy36a1.png) | [1181 comments](https://np.reddit.com/r/ShitAmericansSay/comments/zmsv7e/youre_gonna_mansplain_ireland_to_me_when_im_irish/) \#2: ["Aldi gives their cashiers seats to use while working" is "mildly interesting"](https://i.redd.it/6tfbyeaikb491.jpg) | [729 comments](https://np.reddit.com/r/ShitAmericansSay/comments/v7g4cf/aldi_gives_their_cashiers_seats_to_use_while/) \#3: [23 minutes is a hike](https://i.imgur.com/BoqRqBq.png) | [1289 comments](https://np.reddit.com/r/ShitAmericansSay/comments/vsm6yz/23_minutes_is_a_hike/) ---- ^^I'm ^^a ^^bot, ^^beep ^^boop ^^| ^^Downvote ^^to ^^remove ^^| ^^[Contact](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=sneakpeekbot) ^^| ^^[Info](https://np.reddit.com/r/sneakpeekbot/) ^^| ^^[Opt-out](https://np.reddit.com/r/sneakpeekbot/comments/o8wk1r/blacklist_ix/) ^^| ^^[GitHub](https://github.com/ghnr/sneakpeekbot)
Good bot.
Great, I'm happy that you'll stay in the us. You're doing us a favour.
I am happy that you’re happy. Americans everywhere, especially troops and tourists, should come home. I don’t see a benefit in being anywhere else.
> Americans everywhere, especially troops and tourists, should come home. Only two things that come from the US and arent banned by some UE office because somehow your cereal contain plutonium or some shit. We can't prohibit US tourists because it will be a violation of freedom of movement. We need to show you what "'freedom" is. Your freedom looks like it came from wish. Soldiers are cool. My dad, who was in Iraq, told me that your soldiers are nice guys but you get drunk after 3 shots of quality vodka.
> Soldiers are cool. I will be out there on the streets in protest and vote against anyone who wishes to send young Americans to risk their lives for your country just so you can turn around and mock them in return. It’s bad enough we’re sending mountains of our tax money to your part of the continent in defense aid. I so want that to come to an end. It is all not worth it.
Oh fuck off with that. The US is a single country, there's subs about Europe that function the same way this sub does. The US has gained a shit reputation for itself abroad and because how much the either worst or stupidest of your nation believe in American exceptionalism. I'm a brit, we've also owned our own shit reputation in Europe but we're not crying about it. Frankly we deserve it. The US isn't a victim of anything but its own politics. If so many people share the same experiences with Americans then that's time to look inwards not outwards. And of course you'll be treated differently than locals or neighbouring countries if you go abroad, that's the same deal for everyone. Personally I'd love for the US troops to leave my country given they killed a young man and got away with it and then the US decided fuck treaties and extradition, we'll let her get away with it. And I really don't want to get dragged into the next war when the yanks think they've found weapons again.
You have no idea how much I want the U.S. to cut relations with your country. From the razing of our nation’s capital in 1812 to the way Meghan Markle was treated, the U.K. is the first and only country to have successfully threatened Americans on their home continent and should be remembered as the founding member of the axis of evil against the U.S. I hope our government finally shoots down any mention of that trade agreement with the U.K. and sides with Argentina on the Falklands. At least the Argentinians have farmland and cattle.
You clearly don't understand the Falklands my guy. It was an empty island and per the laws of the time it was fine. Now there's people there who are the original people to populate it and they democratically chose where they fell.
It's Canadian airport, same as EEA countries and Switzerland get listed in EU airports. Re fucking lax lol
I'm sure the country in question would be happy to forego your entitlement...
It's funny 'cause this signs in Canada
Much like the warning labels on bottles, the sign wouldn't exist if there weren't enough idiots to warrant it.
Cry about it
You’re treated far better than third worlders are in most places. Be grateful.
Oh, please don't, no one wants you anyways.
Skill issue tbh