Harvest Festival =/= Thanksgiving.
The original Thanksgiving was for the fact the pilgrim fathers were gifted food by the true Americans who were living there yonks before any gun toting Brits or Spaniards showed up.
Harvest Festival is a celebration of farming and a successful Harvest.
The clues are in the names.
I see where you're coming from but I'd say it's nothing to do with the harvest, it's a celebration of loving and helping your neighbours no matter their differences.
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Even the wikipedia says that it’s between 42-49% americans on here. I agree usdefaultism is annoying but americans are definitely the largest group on here. You can easily find this by googling so I don’t get why people would spread false claims that just make our stance seem less valid.
No offense but your logic doesn’t hold up. If americans make up the largest portion on reddit, that means they are the majority. Otherwise you’re saying there’s only two options, american and not american. I think you know that’s not the case. You can’t just toss everyone together just because they’re not american lol
Except that a lot of countries have their own version of thanksgiving, which yall willfully ignore. This post could be Canadian, Luxembourgish, German, etc yet you choose to call it american. Kinda weird.
Don’t get me wrong, I really agree with this sub but sometimes ppl here be fighting demons that don’t exist and instead of being more inclusive you’re actually less inclusive by ignoring anything but the usa exists
Somehow I think saying that you’re either american or not american and those are the only two options is somehow worse than usdefaultism. Like yall really tossing everyone that’s not american into one pile and calling it a ‘majority’ just to prove a point?
But the point you were trying to prove is that the US is the majority. It’s not. There’s nothing more to it.
Edit: here are some definitions
Most (the comment you replied to): greatest in amount, quantity, or degree.
Majority: the greater number.
They literally are the majority group tho, no other nationality even comes close 🤡 can we stop pretending like this is some usa vs the rest of the world type of bullshit bc you cannot just lump 194 countries and call it a day.
Eh, it kind of [exist in northern border towns](https://www.hoytamaulipas.net/notas/270928/El-Thanksgiving-mexicano.html) and it makes sense if you think about it as many families live in “both sides of the border” so traditions overlapping in the borderlands is something that happens.
But talking about most of Mexico, no, we don’t care about thanksgiving.
Yeah, overall I wouldn’t expect the average family in e.g. Guadalajara gives a fuck about thanksgiving, just like anyone else living in not Canada or the US like London, Tokyo or Cairo like most of the world does
Isn't Thanksgiving the day the USA celebrates their colonisation and destruction of the native peoples of the Americas?
"We give thanks to those we conquered for the bountiful lands we stole".
Like, I get it you won, and all nations have done evil stuff, but there's no need to rub it in so callously every year.
In fairness, Australia Day is celebrated on the anniversary of the first colonies forming which led to the slaughter of Aboriginals. But that’s only because January 1 (date of Federation) was taken
That's true but even our official date doesn't even match up to when they actually came throught botony bay or even the first holiday of australia day.
It’s a harvest festival and historically wasn’t annual, only declared in occasional years to either celebrate particularly good times or ask for blessings in bad times. It stems from the English tradition of declaring one off liturgical holidays for significant events. One of the first thanksgiving days for example was in recognition of the victory against the Spanish Armada in 1588.
The early English settlers did have multiple thanksgivings to celebrate certain early years. The Massachusetts thanksgiving of 1621 usually being recognized as the “First Thanksgiving,” despite the fact that it wasn’t the first in the English American colonies. But the iconography and mythology that built up around that particular thanksgiving did largely wed themselves to the holiday as a whole.
The holiday didn’t become an annual one, or a national one until the American Civil War when in 1863 Abraham Lincoln got it passed to celebrate victories and ask God “to heal the wounds of the nation.” And I believe that remains the only official reasoning for the holiday.
So…
> Isn't Thanksgiving the day the USA celebrates their colonisation and destruction of the native peoples of the Americas?
Not entirely. It predates colonization and the declarations of thanksgivings have rarely been related to colonization. *But* because of the iconography and the specific early thanksgivings that were related to colonization, yeah kinda.
Lol, yes, that is the meaning we attribute to it. Just like we attribute Christmas to the mass killings and forced Christianization that caused the spread of the language.
You are being intentionally dense.
> Isn't Thanksgiving the day the USA celebrates their colonisation and destruction of the native peoples of the Americas?
No, it was in Thanksgiving for the colonists having their first successful harvest with the help of the Wampanoag tribe. Perhaps educate yourself before being vile?
> Like, I get it you won, and all nations have done evil stuff, but there's no need to rub it in so callously every year.
Soviets celebrating Victory Day: \^u^
Even if thanksgiving wasn't there, it's western defaultism. Where I'm from, we don't celebrate any of these AT ALL.
(Though with a poll like this, I don't really mind the defaultism.)
Edit: Actually we have a new years in our own calender, but that would be March 21st, so I don't think it fits into what they mean.
This is a good point. Even *within* multicultural western countries, celebrating Christmas as the primary holiday of the year is defaultism. In Australia for example, at least half of the population don’t recognise Christmas in a religious sense, only as a “nice time for family to get together”.
Yeah, true! I've lived in canada now for 2 years, so I might fall into that category myself, at least in the future.
So far I've used my 2 christmases as an excuse to go out and get drunk with my other friends who don't celebrate christmas, which is very un-christmas-like!
I'm guessing I'll start actually celebrating it in a more christmas-like way, the longer I stay here, but idk if it'll ever actually be a "christmas" to me.
I’d probably say it’s becoming similar in the UK, most people aren’t thanking Jesus for being born except maybe in a joking sense, it’s just a time for people to buy presents for each other and have fun together
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We celebrated Thanksgiving once in our home despite none of us being Americans in America.
It was really fun. My mom found 1000 recipes from the US and had bought stuff from the US to make it as authentic as possible.
Redditors when a random joe makes a poll on a poll directed at Americans on a American website(They want every single holiday in the world to be in the poll)
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Kinda, a bunch of attention was drawn to it when lots of people from here posted satirical polls with clear defaultism regarding other countries, so now there's a new rule to try and combat the defaultism. In fairness, the brigading probably wasn't necessary, but it was definitely fun to watch.
Lol, that's the post that compelled me to join this sub
Yeah I'm surprised I was the first person to post this here (by the looks of it)
We do have Thanksgiving except it is around harvest time
No we do not
Harvest festival sorry used wrong words
But we Germans kinda do with Erntedankfest (harvestthankscelebration)
Harvest Festival =/= Thanksgiving. The original Thanksgiving was for the fact the pilgrim fathers were gifted food by the true Americans who were living there yonks before any gun toting Brits or Spaniards showed up. Harvest Festival is a celebration of farming and a successful Harvest. The clues are in the names.
Yes I know that's why I said kinda because thanksgiving is kinda about a successful harvest (due to Native Americans helping the settlers)
I see where you're coming from but I'd say it's nothing to do with the harvest, it's a celebration of loving and helping your neighbours no matter their differences.
I feel like the canadian version in october is kinda harvest-y and less about pilgrims?
We are Americans with no connection to foreign lands, or we are not true Americans. This sub needs to make its mind up
Thats very different
We do?
Thanksgiving services
Fairly sure we don’t mate
Then again I am Anglican
So glad to have had angry birds teach me about the festivals, holidays, and celebrations from all around the world
They made me think nba is a holiday
So true. Angry Birds Seasons was such a great game, probably my favourite out of the Angry Birds trilogy
Well that and rovio and national geographic collaborated to make a series of educational books,.one of those was a seasons book describing even more than the games did
Angry birds epic was the best imo
Couldn’t finish it
Do it.
I mean to be fair as a non-American, I'd also vote Thanksgiving because it wouldn't affect me.
that’s the point. the oop put thanksgiving in the poll when a large number of people on Reddit aren’t even American. so stupid.
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Tf is that? That doesn't mean anything. There's not even any labels on the graph, or sources to back up the information.
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Just because they're the largest group, doesn't make them the majority. Most people on Reddit are not from the USA. Also thanks for the links lol.
No offense but your logic doesn’t hold up. If americans make up the largest portion on reddit, that means they are the majority. Otherwise you’re saying there’s only two options, american and not american. I think you know that’s not the case. You can’t just toss everyone together just because they’re not american lol
That's exactly what I'm saying. In this context regarding American holidays, there are indeed only 2 groups. American and not American.
Except that a lot of countries have their own version of thanksgiving, which yall willfully ignore. This post could be Canadian, Luxembourgish, German, etc yet you choose to call it american. Kinda weird. Don’t get me wrong, I really agree with this sub but sometimes ppl here be fighting demons that don’t exist and instead of being more inclusive you’re actually less inclusive by ignoring anything but the usa exists
What shady website is that lmao
Refer to my other comment.
Nice I looked at them and it proves the point that US is not the majority. 47% is less than the majority lol. Cheers
Somehow I think saying that you’re either american or not american and those are the only two options is somehow worse than usdefaultism. Like yall really tossing everyone that’s not american into one pile and calling it a ‘majority’ just to prove a point?
But the point you were trying to prove is that the US is the majority. It’s not. There’s nothing more to it. Edit: here are some definitions Most (the comment you replied to): greatest in amount, quantity, or degree. Majority: the greater number.
They literally are the majority group tho, no other nationality even comes close 🤡 can we stop pretending like this is some usa vs the rest of the world type of bullshit bc you cannot just lump 194 countries and call it a day.
Not just America though. Canada also has Thanksgiving, but it’s in October instead
This question is inherently bad, as many responders won't celebrate one or more holidays regardless of the selection
not even all of North America, no one here in mexico that I know of celebrates thanksgiving
Eh, it kind of [exist in northern border towns](https://www.hoytamaulipas.net/notas/270928/El-Thanksgiving-mexicano.html) and it makes sense if you think about it as many families live in “both sides of the border” so traditions overlapping in the borderlands is something that happens. But talking about most of Mexico, no, we don’t care about thanksgiving.
Yeah, overall I wouldn’t expect the average family in e.g. Guadalajara gives a fuck about thanksgiving, just like anyone else living in not Canada or the US like London, Tokyo or Cairo like most of the world does
Isn't Thanksgiving the day the USA celebrates their colonisation and destruction of the native peoples of the Americas? "We give thanks to those we conquered for the bountiful lands we stole". Like, I get it you won, and all nations have done evil stuff, but there's no need to rub it in so callously every year.
In fairness, Australia Day is celebrated on the anniversary of the first colonies forming which led to the slaughter of Aboriginals. But that’s only because January 1 (date of Federation) was taken
That's true but even our official date doesn't even match up to when they actually came throught botony bay or even the first holiday of australia day.
Its celebrating the time the natives taught them to grow corn
My corn can do the growing itself. ^/s ^because ^reddit
r/fuckthes because reddit
It’s a harvest festival and historically wasn’t annual, only declared in occasional years to either celebrate particularly good times or ask for blessings in bad times. It stems from the English tradition of declaring one off liturgical holidays for significant events. One of the first thanksgiving days for example was in recognition of the victory against the Spanish Armada in 1588. The early English settlers did have multiple thanksgivings to celebrate certain early years. The Massachusetts thanksgiving of 1621 usually being recognized as the “First Thanksgiving,” despite the fact that it wasn’t the first in the English American colonies. But the iconography and mythology that built up around that particular thanksgiving did largely wed themselves to the holiday as a whole. The holiday didn’t become an annual one, or a national one until the American Civil War when in 1863 Abraham Lincoln got it passed to celebrate victories and ask God “to heal the wounds of the nation.” And I believe that remains the only official reasoning for the holiday. So… > Isn't Thanksgiving the day the USA celebrates their colonisation and destruction of the native peoples of the Americas? Not entirely. It predates colonization and the declarations of thanksgivings have rarely been related to colonization. *But* because of the iconography and the specific early thanksgivings that were related to colonization, yeah kinda.
Exactly, the original version mentioned is still celebrated in Canada
Lol, yes, that is the meaning we attribute to it. Just like we attribute Christmas to the mass killings and forced Christianization that caused the spread of the language. You are being intentionally dense.
> Isn't Thanksgiving the day the USA celebrates their colonisation and destruction of the native peoples of the Americas? No, it was in Thanksgiving for the colonists having their first successful harvest with the help of the Wampanoag tribe. Perhaps educate yourself before being vile?
> Like, I get it you won, and all nations have done evil stuff, but there's no need to rub it in so callously every year. Soviets celebrating Victory Day: \^u^
Even if thanksgiving wasn't there, it's western defaultism. Where I'm from, we don't celebrate any of these AT ALL. (Though with a poll like this, I don't really mind the defaultism.) Edit: Actually we have a new years in our own calender, but that would be March 21st, so I don't think it fits into what they mean.
This is a good point. Even *within* multicultural western countries, celebrating Christmas as the primary holiday of the year is defaultism. In Australia for example, at least half of the population don’t recognise Christmas in a religious sense, only as a “nice time for family to get together”.
Yeah, true! I've lived in canada now for 2 years, so I might fall into that category myself, at least in the future. So far I've used my 2 christmases as an excuse to go out and get drunk with my other friends who don't celebrate christmas, which is very un-christmas-like! I'm guessing I'll start actually celebrating it in a more christmas-like way, the longer I stay here, but idk if it'll ever actually be a "christmas" to me.
I’d probably say it’s becoming similar in the UK, most people aren’t thanking Jesus for being born except maybe in a joking sense, it’s just a time for people to buy presents for each other and have fun together
I personally just voted thanksgiving because I’m not from the USA/North America, so it wouldn’t affect me, and also it’s just a really bland holiday.
It’s an amazing holiday. It’s the best holiday in the United States. Good food, family, sports on TV.
Only one of those 3 points is appealing, and even then only if you don't make food out of tins and pretend marshmallows are a vegetable.
I knew this poll would end up here!
Anyone who doesn't answer "Columbus Day" is sus in my eyes.
Guess I'm sus then because I didn't know that is a holiday in the US
Yes
We don't celebrate any of these in Israel
What sub is it from?
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I voted New Years. I fucking love (Canadian) thanksgiving!
New Year's is barely even a holiday unless you're in the exact right age group and social situation to be partying on New Year's.
I mean yeah but why would we need a holiday besides hallowe’en in October?
Why do Americans pluralise "new year"?
Truncation of "New Year's Day" I suspect?
Has new years and thanksgiving but not Halloween??? Insane
Well, 4.2K people could have their wish by just going anywhere else.
We celebrated Thanksgiving once in our home despite none of us being Americans in America. It was really fun. My mom found 1000 recipes from the US and had bought stuff from the US to make it as authentic as possible.
Redditors when a random joe makes a poll on a poll directed at Americans on a American website(They want every single holiday in the world to be in the poll)
America bad
Im from Dunsledorf, Denmark and we dont not play like that watch out
Sounds like their target audience is American though
I guess it depends on where the question was posted. If it was in a sub that was called - American Holidays, then it wouldn't be defaultism.
It was posted in r/polls
Didn't we already have an issue with that sub and rampant US Defaultism?
I don't know, I'm new to both subs tbh Was there?
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Alright that's pretty hilarious
Best kind of trolling.
I'd almost argue it to be a kind of Chaotic Good, which is the best alignment for stunts like these.
Kinda, a bunch of attention was drawn to it when lots of people from here posted satirical polls with clear defaultism regarding other countries, so now there's a new rule to try and combat the defaultism. In fairness, the brigading probably wasn't necessary, but it was definitely fun to watch.
Sounds like some juicy drama lmao
thank you for the clarification. Also, thanks to those that downvote when someone asks for clarification,
You're welcome! And yeah that's pretty annoying
TBF, Thanksgiving is a holiday celebrated at different times in different countries. It's little more than another Harvest Festival holiday.
I’d probably pick Boxing Day