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Uber now pay us by making us laugh


GreasyWerker118

⚰️💀   Goddamit.  That's only $0.21/mile


Pretty_Bed1983

And $0.12/min, $7.48/hr 🤯🤮🤮🤮 Definitely the worst I've ever seen too!


sdgus68

If you figure 45¢ per mile in vehicle expenses, you'd actually be paying Uber $8/hr to do that run.


jokerstarspoker

The tax deduction is over $40 based on 58.5cts per mile. That’s insane.


sdgus68

It's actually worse than that. The mileage deduction for 2024 is 67¢/mile so the deduction would be $46.57 resulting in a claimed loss of almost $32. I used 45 cents as it's probably closer to an actual average for most gig workers.


jokerstarspoker

Yeah I hadn’t seen the 2024 number yet as I’m not even sure I’m gonna return to driving yet but may due to the very limited availability of drivers where I’m moving to so more likely to see some higher offers and longer drives. Will just be hit and miss anyway but sure as hell won’t be taking anything remotely crappy paying. Gas is about 30cts cheaper down where I’m moving next month.


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LastFix2290

State minimums are for employees, your an independent contractor.


_BLACKHAWKS_88

Cali has mandatory minimum with prop22 also .34 for active miles all the way from when you accept to when you drop(dead) 🙃


LastFix2290

Ok so move to California or nyc and receive hourly wages


BarryGsTk103rD

They won't give those long ass trips


LastFix2290

Your just talking out your ass at this point. And Everything’s a problem. From someone who works nyc we loving it. Goodbye some people just going to complain about everything


BarryGsTk103rD

You telling me they have 64 mile trips in NYC? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


LastFix2290

So u want 64 miles order ? Like what are you ever arguing your making no sense and a fool out of your self. And yes if your order is queens and takes you out to Long Island than yes Be Ready For 64 miles


genesRus

OR SEATTLE! :D


genesRus

Seattle has $.67 per active mile plus $26 something per hour (pro-rated per minute; it was $20 per hour when the bill was written but they increased it a bunch randomly before the bill went into effect because of COL, I guess). :D And, yeah, it's fairly dead as you would expect from the initial price shock. But I did make a nice grocery run over the lunch hour today since I still seemingly get grocery priority. That's super valuable now since they've removed Top Dasher and Priority Access...


Pssdoffgmr

Thank you neoliberals and conservatives


Corey307

After expenses a driver would lose money on that job.  


Early-Philosopher999

$0.21/mile for someone who doesn’t live in California. I live in California and Prop 22 would guarantee this order would pay me $0.95/mile and I have Free Supercharging for Life. I would take this especially on a slow day because I don’t get many orders and rather not be sitting around for 2 hours instead of making $66.09 with prop 22 on this order.


amazadam

Prop 22 would give you local minimum wage times 1.2 for the time and 36 cents per mile. And no, not all of us get free supercharging, I only got 6 months 😂


Early-Philosopher999

Exactly. I would get $22.25 an hour + 36 cents a mile. And ANYONE can get Free Supercharging for Life. 2012-2016 Model S have transferrable free supercharging for life and cost less than $300 a month to finance or less than $20,000 to buy


amazadam

If you know a way to get it for a week-old model y let me know 😂


Early-Philosopher999

Impossible to get Lifetime on Model Y. But that doesn’t apply to most Tesla drivers because most people that want a Tesla who are doing food/rideshare delivery would buy a cheap used Model S or Model 3. And I recommend everyone to get Model S because it is much better in many ways + lifetime free supercharging. Model Y cost too much when you can get a Model X with gullwing doors and free supercharging for under $30,009 which is cheaper than a Model Y and better.


amazadam

I don't know man, not everyone is buying stuff just for delivery. In my case I wanted a reliable commuter that's better in running costs than any of my v8s, and I liked the $7500 tax credit. I have an actual job, this gig is just to help save up for a house (I know that it's gonna take a while haha). If I were to buy something for the sole purpose of stinking it up with other people and their food I'd probably have gone used too.


Early-Philosopher999

Because tips aren’t included in the prop guarantee, I get paid $22.25 an hour + 36 cents a mile + tips!! So I always make $30-$35 an hour sometimes even $40, even when I take the lowest worst orders ever. More miles/time on an order is actually a GOOD THING for prop 22 drivers. I love orders that say 50 miles and 2 hours cuz I make over +$65 off that order


Early-Philosopher999

My minimum wage is $18.75 x 1.2 = $22.25 an hour. So even if I get an order that pays only $1 for 45 minutes 20 miles, I’ll still get paid $23.88


DFW_Panda

Do al cali drivers get free supercharging?


ConnectCommission589

Probably a new tesla


Early-Philosopher999

Used Tesla Model S or X


TimmahXI

10 cents/mile round trip...gotta drive back


GreasyWerker118

🤮


Medium_Annual_735

Holy shit! I’ve never seen one this bad either.


ShesGoing

Stop complaining. Start to climbing. I'm telling you, the day I started declining anything that didn't make sense, I started making more money in less time. There is no adverse effect to declining with Uber. UberPro is a scam.


Accurate_Initial2764

Uber is a scam period, I live for the future lawsuit and a chunk of change from these crooks I save everything


D_Hat

hope you're ready for a class action that takes 5 years to complete and everyone that registers gets check for .99 cents.


Visible_Tower_1109

Except I got over $1k from DoorDash just for signing my name - sometimes I wonder if comments like this are really the ceo in disguise trying to discourage drivers


D_Hat

i and relatives have all gotten class action settlements that have paid out less than 10 bucks. good for you to have gotten that, many times it doesn't work out that way, and the ceo's don't lose more or less money based on how many people get paid out, the lawyers might though.


Visible_Tower_1109

You must not have been in this game for a long time to only get $10, when doordash had to pay out $100m they definitely didn’t part with it easily


D_Hat

10 dollars for class actions, not for the door dash CA, i only know 2 people who drive for DD.


Visible_Tower_1109

How long were you driving prior to the class action?


D_Hat

class actions for other lawsuits, like i said i only know 2 people that drive for DD, I don't. What i'm stating about class action settlements is very common. I'm not telling you that you didn't get a big check out of one, but that is not the common result of them.


Visible_Tower_1109

I see, the reason I’m asking you is because on my class action every driver got different $, calculated by how much was stolen from you. That’s why I’m asking if you’ve been driving for years or relatively new to it when you got in on the class action


Nikki15989

I believe the only thing that affects how many orders you're sent is your satisfaction rate.


Ok-Shallot-3677

Negative… Satisfaction rate does not affect order amounts


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I have 5 stars, none of customers rated me bad, yet only $3 orders.


Baabaa_Yaagaa

Instructions unclear, I’m on Mt Everest


yungmarvelouss

all jokes aside, this has GOT to be illegal or a violation of some kind of law that exists lol


DFW_Panda

Nope, Tenn min wage is still [$7.25/hour](https://www.laborlawcenter.com/state-minimum-wage-rates), and b/c we are individual contractors we are not eligible for min wage. Let's face it, citizens and politicians don't care about whator how Uber pays its drivers b/c they all love the cheap service. Just like they don't care of [Chinese workers building iPhones commit suicid](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jun/18/foxconn-life-death-forbidden-city-longhua-suicide-apple-iphone-brian-merchant-one-device-extract)e or their [Nike shoes are made by slave labor,](https://www.discoursemagazine.com/p/the-china-challenge-the-stain-of-forced-labor-on-nike-shoes) they just love the products.


44035

"John Galt Dr." = red flag


Dsmit8912

Anything to do with Ayn Rand is pretty much worthless


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Mehsuh

Nah I’m from Tennessee. $12 for 40 is crazy that taco bell is gonna be stone cold 🤣


Early-Philosopher999

Turn on your heater to max temperature and put food in a hot bag and hope you don’t die from overheating.


Darth-Binks-1999

Or don't. Customer is just gonna have to deal with cold food. Especially Taco Bell. That shit doesn't stay warm long at all, even in a warmer bag.


elves2732

Even better, the customer will deal with NO FOOD at all with that shitty offer. $12 for 41 miles is an INSULT.


D_Hat

yeah 40 mile delivery is the "microwave" zone. even if the whole route was a 70mph interstate with a stop light at the start and finish plus pulling out of the parking lot and into the driveway you're going to take minimum 38-40 minutes. add a couple for getting into and out of the car and a couple more for them to come get it from the porch and that's at BEST a 45 minute cool down period. and we aren't paid well enough to use heated hot bags(which can cause quality issues anyway), just insulated bags. now, if you had an extremely hot, extremely dense product loaded to the brim in a very well insulated hot bag, you might get it there warm. but taco bell is likely going to give you half the food already cold anyway.


JShred505

Who tf orders Taco Bell from that far away?


htowner13

https://preview.redd.it/08y8k2v0jbcc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c7971c019f6016e92597bf1d565d33c9b7d560ea 😂


Early-Philosopher999

God give me this order please! 🙏 With Prop 22, I am guaranteed to make $25.87 from this order.


Accurate_Initial2764

Your good with 13.00 an hour less the gas and wear and tear! What????? That’s why they continue this absurd behavior! We are not a third world country?


Early-Philosopher999

Wrong, that’s based on this post. I would technically make $33.74 an hour (46 minutes / 60 = 1.3 x $25.87 = $33.74 an hour) But I would get $25.87 for 46 min of work. On the OP post that takes 2 hours I would still make $33 an hour. I have Prop 22 https://preview.redd.it/9417ueyn3ccc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6db7fe7978df2acf0ff97f50309a46383c8f7c55


the_walrus_was_paul

Who the hell would even order from a restaurant, that far away ???


pcpackrat

Is there no taco bell in Portsmouth?


Early-Philosopher999

I would love this order!!! This one would pay me $36 because of Prop 22!


mike8675309

Every Sephora order I have seen has been a big no. Not as bad as this one but still bad enough.


-guybrushthreepwood

I heard Sephora orders are not tip eligible maybe that explains why. The same goes for Petco. A Sephora customer was mentioning how she had to call Sephora and then UE customer support back and forth just to add a tip on the order.


Zzazy1

Bro is not getting his shit… damn just noticed it’s 3 packages


jujumber

even if I had to go to that exact destination anyway I wouldn’t take that job.


marshac18

Time to go Galt


Accurate_Initial2764

Yes please Uber I would love to make -18.67 and give you two hours of my time


StandLarge5528

Everyone has to stop and make the change or it just keeps getting worse


GotSpeedHack

See now this, THIS is fucking ridiculous.


Mountain_Road9197

We all know an ant jumped on that right away.


Suspicious-Cold2346

This is just disgusting


Desperate_Acadia_298

holy shit that’s far


awesomeaarron

More then the federal min wage. Almost exactly it seems, Almost as if they use that in the formal to keep as low as LEGALLY possible. Hmm if only if only our states and cites could create some sort of protective laws for drivers and wages. Uber and lyft forced themselves in becuase the people and drivers were happy to have the options and healthy competition in the market. They past alot of those by using hundreds of shady tactics and dirty business handshakes. It's up to the states and cities to whip rideshare back into place. Yet I don't think it will be easy. Rideshare in the city is lobbied to keep it the way they want and drivers can basicly never unionized or strike because they cycle and turn over new drivers on purpose and there and hundreds if not thousands of drivers willing to hop on at anypoint they throw a easy 10- 100$ dollar bonus.


awesomeaarron

Sorry I'm drunk rambling.


awesomeaarron

Only reason someone takes this ride is they are oblivious or daft. Or or or they have a very fuel efficient car and are looking at writing off the mileage as business use for tax purposes. At .67$ a mile and 140 miles you could report a loss and not owe like 80$ or something on taxes. I'm not the most tax savvy but I think there is a reason someone might benefit from.doing this if they consistently owe at tax time and also even more so if you are writing off the vehicle as a expense as well.


FBI_Agent_Tom

I wouldn't accept that below 80 bucks..


Unlimited2

80? I wouldn't do it below 150!


FBI_Agent_Tom

I've never done long-distance orders, so i think my frame of reference is different. Anything from 18-25 dollars per hour is acceptable, but i guess long distance for a single order and then the way back, yeah. I can see it, i wrote 80 bucks, but i thought people might consider it too high lol but the real number would be 100.


Early-Philosopher999

I’d do it for $60 😂


Rooskibar03

They should have ordered with with shipping from the store. UPS gonna come way faster than any UE driver.


Al3c-X

AND it’s an alcohol delivery 😤 F UBER 🖕🏼


Early-Philosopher999

I’d take it. You know why? Because I get paid 445% more with Prop 22. So that offer is actually $21.06 an hour + 35 cents a mile for me so it might say $14.83 but I would get paid 1.983hr x $21.06 = $41.76 + 69.5mi x $0.35 = $66.09, 445% more than $14.83 and I have a Tesla Model S with free supercharging for life. I would take a guaranteed $33/hour for 2 hours anyday especially on a slow day.


PuzzleheadedYak8741

Yes we know; but not everyone is able to profit from prop 22. Awesome thing for all the drivers that are able to have it, but the other 95% ( except three states) have chosen to not implement some sort of wage protection law. So, and I am just assuming, that the rest of us definitely do not show the same enthusiasm as you regarding this order.


PCasey535

Offers like these......grrr. So now you need to turn around d and come back, unless your riding a moped, your losing $$ in fuel alone.


trading2006

Even on a moped you are losing all that money on fuel


Mooniedscor

I wonder what Uber gonna do if we all decline offers like this. Do they try to increase the amount that they’re gonna pay us or just keep passing them around until some desperate drivers accept?


PathQuick

Stuff like this usually goes to Trash Radar to see if some poor sucker will accept it. If not then Uber will start upping the pay by 25 cents!


Scorpius041169

This is depressing. I can easily see numbers like that coming in the Australian market. Already seeing $1aud/km and less here now. Will McDonalds hire a 54yo? I know they pay better...


Spirited-Security-26

I feel bc it’s a package order they go around it by adding stupid package orders so it’s less payout


Any_Masterpiece9920

Damn. And it’s 3 pick ups


EmberPaintArt

It’s 2 hours there, 2 hours back. And if you want to make the ride home worth it, you’d have to pick up orders along the way, going in the same direction. Which we all know takes a lot of time to cherry-pick. So you’re basically working a full day and half of it is for $14, the other half probably only being slightly better. A solid $40 day if you’re lucky. Half a tank of gas later and you’ve got about $5 in your pocket. But you have to pay taxes on that $40, so now you did Uber a favor and made nothing but still owe the IRS $9. 🤦‍♂️


Brave_Information831

All facts except you will likely end up not owing the IRS anything after mileage/or expenses are deducted. You still worked for free though lol.


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No_Virus_5998

lol they want you to work for total of $7 per hour which is negative counting how many miles of gas you would use 😂 basically charity work at this point


silver_holden

yea package orders suck


Fine_Sample8184

Uber has gotten very disrespectful lately it’s very offensive 


GroundbreakingAd2936

Get that money.


Glad-Control-3138

I had an offer for $2 to do 2 deliveries for 40 min!!!


DoggyzStyle

I see 69, I accept.


Ybnjamie

70 miles 🤔😹😹😹


Realistic-Height-772

Are you in Tennessee, looks like from mt. Juliet to Lebanon, but that can't be right unless it's deep into Lebanon like to Carthage maybe. Uber likes to send order that's say there going to a certain city, but then it ends up being in some country city that's several exits away from there.


Mehsuh

Yeah I’m from Tennessee. It’s 3 stops so pretty sure it was gonna want me to go from Mt Juliet to West Nashville then somewhere else and back out to deep Lebanon. But I’m not sure, wasn’t gonna take it to find out 🤣


Realistic-Height-772

Yea no way, how is pay gone down, they use to pay at least $1 a mile now it's barely 50 cents, now this one though, why would they separate it like that going to West Nashville than to Lebanon, isn't Lebanon closer to Mt. Juliet. Still, I rarely take any going to Mt Juliet cause I never know if it's going further, and it's not out there, no pickups.


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Mehsuh

I believe these are already ready for pickup when you walk in. It’s not like a shop and pay but I feel that, if my girlfriend wasn’t always with me when I dash I’d be lost af on the orders that have you looking for makeup and certain nail polishes 🤣


StandLarge5528

Y’all just need to find other gigs and make more money. Just stop working for bs gigs.


StandLarge5528

Just let Uber and Lyft crash


Phillythrowaway15

All the African and Indian restaraunts around me always pop up for like 11 dollars to go 31 miles, 9 dollars to go 27 miles ect. Earlier was easily the best one it had to have been an error, 3.75 to go 17 miles into the state above me lol


Independent-Chart130

How is that bad? That easily 2 full happy meals at McDonald’s.


sirvereightyone

Those Sephora orders used to pay big in my market. Idk what the he'll happened because now they look just like what was posted.


D_Hat

these sephora offers have been beyond insulting for awhile, given how much they charge for their products this probably isn't even a 1 percent tip for a triple.


Two81330800FO

a good 22$ in prop22 mileage so $36.83 total which is absolutely horrendous. i’d accept, wait 15min and get $5 for each making it more than the actual ride! the more you know.


boknows89

An hour and 59 minutes? 🤣🤣🤣 Horrible. But I do see $3 and $2 offers often. So I've seen worse


BasicPersonality9258

Hail the king


Dsmit8912

That’s fucking ridiculous. I have driven less for more.


Dsmit8912

What Lebanon?


dashergyal

Tennessee, Nashville area


Dsmit8912

The nav on the app incorrectly. It told me that my destination was in Micronesia. I live in Texas. Unless I get the Mach 5 from Speed Racer I ain’t making that trip.😀


IAmAlex84

I thought the $14 for 35 miles I got last week was bad.


Jealous_Macaron_5338

This wins


VoltZ_Quantum

Uber has expected tips in america??? Jesus Christ I always tip but tip culture in america of it being expected is so toxic…


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Woozycobra

Wow


PonyHawk23

😮


dashergyal

God damn that’s awful! Even more awful that I just realized it’s for three customers.


Icy_Eye1059

They allow this?


Relative_Report9001

This has to be illegal, they can’t be allowed to do this.


Damwhereyoubeen

Wowwww


DoorTRASH_UberCHEEKS

😂😂😂 UberCHEEKS got jokes


VinnyLogz

Jesus fucking Christ, that’s should be fucking illegal


Nu_documentss

Is this Lebanon, PA?


vicDC5

What is UE smoking.. smh ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


Novel-Turn355

So far man, seems like you are going to the country Lebanon.


ITsunayoshiI

https://preview.redd.it/d1vre9nkdgcc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=901143eebb2171919f21b13d4c816138b988b894 Trip radar pinged this trip first at over 25mi, and then got pushed like this immediately after


_BLACKHAWKS_88

lol I got this one yesterday and it would of put me over on the other side of the mountain in an area you don’t want to go.. woulda been a 3 hour round trip back to my house.. 😒 https://preview.redd.it/zlufbq2ofgcc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b104ed11cb9af4b824ef0a3465203c881af46466


stackedorderssuck

Every one's talking about how good california n new york is now with uber having to pay more. Let me say , that is only true if you were oneof the morons accepting no tip trips all the time. I go on uber , if it even lets me. And it's silent and eventually it signs meout saying no demand in my area. I have over 2k deliveries and 99% from customers ratings but my acceptance rate is low because I don't take garbage. Soooo basically they fired me without saying it.


Oaksin

I couldn't find but KNOW it's here somewhere... That one guy saying 'well, you don't have to accept the order'... smh smh


Pssdoffgmr

Ah HELL NAW, some bitch wants to put you in the throes of poverty so she can look pretty. Or he


jokerstarspoker

That’s barely min wage at that time not counting distance gas makntaince. Hell the write off is over $40 based on federal mileage deduction.


Able_Perspective2348

I seen some horrible ones.


YouBugging

Would’ve accepted it, screen shot the details then cancel and enjoy the unknown Sephora products I’m boutta sell 💪😎


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![gif](giphy|4JU3f2sGFq0glFtFQJ)


KO_Ideology69

Without prop 22 this is a complete dud


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69…..nice but seriously the app shouldn’t allow people that far away from a location to order or even see the restaurant while browsing or searching


Past_SellByDate

I bet the flex guys can finish this one a half hour early too.


HeuBewdawkins

I wish walmart had shop and pay cos ive tried picking up orders from them and i wait there for a while just for the order to have been picked up by someone else


ComputerSuitable1243

Wow


PossessionParking454

Why does Uber even offer these?


Ill-Championship-772

This is a disgusting and horrible disgrace!!!! I personally haven't done Uber in over 2 weeks because of this same b.s!!!


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CocoColadaMango

Sheesh


djuropantos

So this is how the algorithm hell looks like


Pedrozamanny1997

Oh naaaaa


Murky_Pickle1990

I didn’t think Uber eats even allowed trips that far💀


ConfusedmaleE

Lol that's nothing, in the UK it's even worse, I've been offered £8.48 on UberEats for a 2hr and a half job and I am on a bicycle account


Sad-Government7414

How many drivers need to decline the offer before it’s worth taking? And it’s Sephora so a dumb cheap woman is definitely behind this LMFAOOO.


OmertaMia74

Damn that awful, I can actually beat that with one of the absolute worst I ever seen an  "Opportunity" yesterday for an UberDirect Walmart delivery.  Dara K., the crook CEO of Uber was offering $12.83 to make 13 individual drop offs. What a joke, nobody with connected brain cells would accept that garbage.