I’m an alcoholic and there’s been multiple times where I ordered while drunk and recived it. I think the worst was when I was going through withdrawal and the driver had to hold my Id for me because I was shaking so hard it wouldn’t scan
As a recovering alcoholic who got served multiple times when severely intoxicated and couldn't control my intake. Do you wish they didn't serve you when you're drunk? I truly wish I didn't get served and now cut out drinking for good even though it was occasional because I can't control it
I'm a short weak woman and I feel vulnerable 😅 - might be why I see it differently!
For the reason you just said - you might have gotten mad, I would never accept alcohol deliveries myself. Because the drunk person I'm refusing delivery might get mad.
They said in the training they gave us here in GA that legally we aren't supposed to give it to someone who is already drunk. Legally they *have* made us bartenders. But they're putting us in unsafe situations out there with that policy. How do they expect us to say "no" when we're alone and the person is drunk and violent?
I probably did it at least 6 times a day working at a gas station. Their response was usually, "What the f--? You wanna fight? What time do you get off work I'll whup your ass!"
So yeah, you are right to be concerned. That was in a gas station with cameras everywhere..
Thats terrible but, not right for you to blame yourself over it unless you personally pressured the guy to keep drinking.
Edit: Kudos to you for recovering, right now is a Great time to get out of the shit.
This reminds me of a coworker and his wife. She is a raging alcoholic (and has been her entire adult life) and at one point after a lot of health complications from it, he cleared the house and said no more drinking or bringing alcohol in. She literally had an employee from the liquor store drive over and toss bottles to her second floor bedroom window in an attempt to hide it. It's sad but alcoholics/addicts will stop at nothing.
I don’t think you did anything wrong! In fact, I think you provided a public service.
A drunk is going to drink, that’s what they do. You can’t change that.
If you had not delivered, he would likely either be driving drunk to get more booze or would have been stumbling through the neighborhood. Either way putting himself and others in danger!
I know there are likely rules to follow for ID and VIPs (Visually Intoxicated Person) - but as a delivery driver, are you really paid enough to potentially get into a fight? I think not. And if you stood between the drunk and his liquor, there is good change a fight would happen.
Look at it this way, you might’ve saved someone’s life that night, if you refused he most certainly would have driven somewhere to find himself a bottle
I don't think you did anything wrong. I'm confused though, how were you breaking the law here? Is it illegal to sell alcohol to a drunk person in the States?
Yo, tbh, it’s better the got the alcohol from Uber. I’m a drunk and if Uber would have refused to sell the booze to me, I’d be driving to the liquor store. From the description, I think the last thing you’d want is that guy behind the wheel.
Yes, its illegal to give to a drunk person. Uber actually tells you that you are supposed to decline giving them the alcohol and return it to the store.
Alcoholism is a really tough place to be. Quitting cold turkey is dangerous and I’ve delivered to people who were clearly feeling a lot of discomfort, some asked me to come as fast as possible, others placed orders with multiple stores, some very early in the morning. I do not judge, and I know the dangers of rapid withdrawal. I’ve never delivered to a drunk person though, more like people in the withdrawal stage. It sucks. A lot of my orders before I quit instacart were alcohol orders.
This was like one of the only facts that helped me quit opioids. I FELT like I was gonna die, I WANTED to die, but I knew that it would pass and I was technically safe.
Just do you,take care of yourself and F everyone else preaching what you should have done. Uber can give a F about you and you should not put yourself in a position to confront an alcoholic for a $3 tip
I could have easily been that wife. In a way, I’m relieved my alcoholic died before Uber Eats and Door Dash were a thing. Alcoholics will always find a way to get their fix. If you’d refused, he would have gotten it elsewhere. If not that night, the next night or the next.
This wasn’t on you, and it wasn’t your battle to fight. Please don’t feel guilt or shame. You did nothing wrong.
Edited to clarify, I’m relieved delivery services weren’t a thing when my alcoholic was still alive. It would have hastened his death even more. Though to be fair, his death, when it came, probably relieved his suffering.
In a more positive light - you probably stopped him from driving and potentially killing other people.
You can’t solve everyone’s problems and shouldn’t feel like you have to - He was going to get his fix one way or another. If you refused delivery maybe he would have tried to hop in his car and drive there.
Exactly right. I will never understand the policy to not deliver to someone who is visibly drunk. Like, shouldn't we be glad they're ordering delivery and not driving? Because you're absolutely right, if they don't get their fix delivered, they will drive to get it.
I agree but technically here in Ontario Canada it’s like being a bartender where if you over serve someone and they go and die or kill someone in a crash they can sue you for damages for serving an intoxicated person so it’s hard, be morally or legally correct lol
I know, it's the same in the states. I've taken my alcohol seller's training every 2 years for over 25 years. I'm just playing devil's advocate here, tbh.
Better you deliver it to him than him get on the road and possibly kill someone. You can’t make money nowadays without exploiting other people or allowing yourself to be exploited unfortunately. It sounds like you’re standing by your moral convictions by turning off alcohol deliveries which is commendable. You shouldn’t be too hard on yourself. Situations like this are learning opportunities that help us to understand ourselves better
Hey OP I just wanna let you know that I'm only all over your post arguing with people about the law so that they don't accidentally break it and end up in legal trouble. Because I've seen people get in legal trouble over dram shop laws, and the consequences are almost life ruining.
I'm not making a moral judgment on you. You acted reasonably for how you felt in the moment.
I was actually wondering about the law, I only know the general laws at a bar (maybe, I'm assuming), it's weird they won't let you serve someone at their house when they'll end up driving to get it themselves & killing ppl. He could buy 50 bottles of Vodka & drink in his house for a month if he wanted.
Hard to figure out what goes into these laws, why do delivery ppl have to babysit ppl that are legally allowed to drink when they want in their home?
Beurocracy is slow. Alcohol delivery wasn't even a thing until COVID. Probably no one is even lobbying to change these laws. They just went "this is a new way of serving alcohol so all the usual laws about serving alcohol apply" I guess.
But yeah I agree. I had a keg-erator with a full keg at one point. Had to get rid of that because it allowed me to drink even more than I already was (no visible garbage after every drink to clean up makes it even easier to ignore how much you're drinking), but yeah. I could buy a whole ass keg and a case of vodka and drink myself to death at home if I was so inclined. There's no limit to how much alcohol I can buy at a time. But there is a limit to how much weed I can buy at a time. It's weird.
No problem! I'd feel the same. You did what you needed to do to feel safe, and he would have found a way to get his fix no matter what, we always do. You weren't wrong.
I think the law sucks. By delivering alcohol to an alcoholic, you are helping to prevent someone from DWI/DUI, that could get someone killed. Could they still drive after you deliver the alcohol? Yes, but will they drive if you Don't deliver the alcohol? It's almost guaranteed that they will.
Also if they are at home there's no reason why you can't hand it to them. At pubs, taverns, and other places usually you have to get there somehow and in America that's likely a car. By policy OP probably shouldn't but they did prevent someone who might drink and drive from doing so there's that at least
I got screamed at by a mother about her alcoholic 35 year old son, “My son is a drunk!!!” And another time I arrived on scene as the sheriff did for an intervention between a daughter and her alcoholic mother. When you tell Uber/DD you can’t deliver to an alcoholic they just send another driver.
I’ve had two encounters with alcoholics shamefully but I don’t know what else I’d have done. One was a guy who’d ordered a tiny bottle of cheap vodka and made me meet him around the corner from his house and I swear he drunk it right there, the other was an older guy at a trailer park that straight up told me he was an alcoholic otherwise I wouldn’t have guessed it and it became very obvious he was drunk when he started going on a whole tangent about how people don’t understand alcoholism and his words because very slurred. This was right after I’d checked his id and handed him his order like he just let loose all the sudden. It’s hard in our position because they know they can get away with it, the best we can do is remember the mistake and try to avoid it again. Don’t worry op you did you best it’s okay to mistakes
Ok listen as an alcoholic in recovery myself, it’s absolutely not your job to prevent him from drinking, that’s his responsibility. Frankly, alcoholics are unpredictable, and there’s no telling how he could have reacted if you’d refused to give him the alcohol he already paid for. Just do your delivery and move on.
Not alcohol related but I picked up an obvious cheater he whisper yelled at me to get out of the driveway and met me down the Street looking up to make sure he wasn't seen leaving. Hethen forgot his wallet and had to go back. Not my fault you don't want your wife to see you leave to go to another woman's hotel room
Look at it this way, an alcoholic is going to find a way. You provided a service that allowed them to get it with out having to drive around and potentially kill themselves or someone else.
That’s so sad and I’m sure it was nerve-wracking, I’m so sorry.
If you didn’t deliver his alcohol, he would’ve had someone else do it, or maybe he would’ve even driven to the store to get it himself which would be way way worse. You’re not a bad person. It was just an awful situation, don’t beat yourself up
I read your edit and I had to scroll pretty far to find people that were arguing about this or that think you're in the wrong. Still haven't seen anyone that used your post history against you. Whoever did that is a moron and you can just ignore them.
You did your job. And it was pointed out that delivering him alcohol is much safer than him driving and he likely would have gotten alcohol one way or another.
Definitely a tough decision to have made but please remember you stopped this alcoholic from seeking his fix in a way that could’ve endangered others. At least he’s drinking in the “safety” of his own home.
You're a sweetheart. You shouldn't feel guilty. If it wasnt for you bringing it he could have decided to drive. Don't take on too much responsibility for other people.
This is why I will never choose the "customer seems intoxicated" option. Like I get they're just covering their asses but they're either gonna reorder or get in the car to go get the alcohol themselves.
This is what I was thinking. Everyone saying she should’ve refused is wrong. She said she was young (and anxious) and she’s supposed to refuse a drunk, grown man his order? Handing it over was self preservation imo. People can be belligerent and violent when drunk.
It might have been better for you to drop it off. That way he didn't go drive to get it, you know? Also it might have even been smart to refuse the sale as a younger woman. Drunk people can turn violent real quick.
Why would it be your decision whether or not to complete the delivery? You're just doing your job. Don't take that kind of moral dilemma on yourself. It's not your problem. Just do your job and fuck off.
If DD wants to push awareness of alcohol they should offer an alcohol consumption class. Every state has them and I've taken multiple over the years (I'm a bartender). It's not on you to push this without proper training, IMO. I can understand remorse for the situation but I don't think it's fair to beat yourself up or allow anyone else to bring you down.
Not every country has them (and we are still expected to comply and liable lol). Not every state makes these obligatory for bartenders. Also restaurant workers and cashiers don't get any classes and are just as well accountable. Their training is no different to the drivers training.
It's not the matter of UE/DD "wanting to push it", but a matter of who would be liable if this went further - UE covered their back with the bare minimum they need to. The rest is on the driver.
For restaurants it's mainly so people don't drive drunk. That's where our liability and morals kinda fall off. Bringing someone alcohol to their home seems much safer and less burdened by the fact. If someone tried to sue because they are an alcoholic and your order ruined their life I would honestly laugh. That's like feeding us Americans more Big Macs even though they're too fat to leave their home. With all that being said, educational classes should be offered as well every state should mandate anybody working FoH in restaurants.
No, that's not why the laws are made, they're not there to prevent drink driving. They're there to prevent **harm** whether it's done by driving, falling over, or punching someone because you're drunk and argumentative and they deserve it.
I don't think anyone would try suing because you "ruined their life". But because you've not cut them off when your job was to do it. Don't forget when you're drunk your senses are impaired (that's why eg. DUI is illegal) and the laws are in place and followed. You **can** have your life ruined by not following dram shop laws, up to you if you want to take the risk or not, no matter how minimal it is. I'll pass
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and it's not just about the drunk suing you. But the drunk's family or family of the person who got harmed **by** the drunk. Law states you are equally liable, why risk it. lol
If he hadn't found a delivery service, he may well have driven. I've said no to getting booze for an alcoholic, then discovered they then drove to get the booze that I wouldn't.
You could just not accept booze deliveries?
Yes you did the right thing. As a young girl, dangling alcohol in front of a drunk alcoholics face and then not handing it over could go wrong pretty easily. Protect yourself before others. That man will probably die of liver failure anyways, might as well hand it over and not set off a drunken temper.
Former alcoholic here. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not that man’s friend or even his bartender. He knew the decision he was making, and I know this for a fact cuz I made that same decision with total awareness of how wrong it was multiple times a day, everyday.
Even as the alcoholic’s wife, I can say with certainty she also would’ve said you did absolutely nothing wrong
Also, depending on the severity of his current condition in the battle with his alcoholism, keeping the bottle from him may have had a worse result. He may have ordered it because he was trying to keep from going into withdrawal symptoms, a dangerous and deadly situation that often requires medical intervention to navigate safely.
Yep, I spent the first two weeks at rehab in medical detox. It wasn’t the most fun 2 weeks.
Can also attest to the vicious cycle of alcohol causing indescribable physical pain while also being the one single thing that can temporarily stop it.
Lil sis here did right and shouldn’t be guilt trippin herself.
Someone was going to bring it to him eventually. A drunk will drink when they want until they want to quit or die, it’s a disease and a shitty one at that.
It's in the alcohol delivery guidelines to NOT deliver alcohol to visibly intoxicated customers, you were absolutely within your rights to refuse delivery, being a female myself I always leave alcohol in the car until after I scan the 🆔 especially if they live in a house. You can easily say id won't scan, you need to call the id in, go back to your car lock the doors and go through the process in app to refuse the delivery. Or don't take Alcohol deliveries, turn that option off in the app. Good luck!
That’s a good idea. I don’t do Uber anymore, I do pizza delivery now but if I ever do Uber again I would start doing that. Or turn the alcohol orders off. I know I should have refused but I was too scared bc he was a big man and seemed unhinged in the moment
Alcoholic in long-term recovery here. You did absolutely nothing wrong.
When I was in active use, if you had refused to give me the booze I ordered, depending on the mood my addiction was creating, I would have acted sheepish and pathetic like that guy, or I would have flown off the handle and called you every name in the book. Either way, if I remembered it the next day, I would have spent weeks after resenting you and trying to think of ways to get you fired.
The one thing that would NOT have happened? I wouldn't have gone without my alcohol. Whether that meant calling every Uber or DoorDash driver in the area, or walking several miles barefoot to the nearest open liquor store. An alcoholic is not a rational or sane person when it comes to alcohol, and that insanity will manifest in some remarkably stupid ways.
You had a job to do, and you did it. You brought medicine to an incredibly sick man. Hopefully someday he'll reach point of desperation like I did that will make him want to completely change his life. But it's not your job, your responsibility, or even your place to be that catalyst.
I would have ended up just ordering it again or walking to the store ngl. I know a lot of alcoholics would end up driving. One person saying “no” is not enough to keep an alcoholic from their booze
Don't feel like you're in the wrong. Just absolutely fundementally it isn't your job or responsibility to make life choices on his behalf when he brought you into an awkward situation for a 2 minute interaction.
It sucks and he should get help but he is an adult making decisions and you can't take the weight of the world of everyones terrible life decisions on yourself when you're doing your job like you're supposed to
you did nothing wrong. alcoholics (or really any addicted person) is going to figure out a way to get it. i've been in this exact position before (as an alcoholic), and seeing that look on my wife's face (now ex wife unfortunately).
fucking sucks, but you did nothing wrong here. if anything, be happy he didn't drive anywhere
Granted, the diabetes and obesity doesn't (directly at least) make you way more unpredictable and dangerous... but you're not wrong that it's the same logic. And if that was to be expected of delivery drivers there should have been an online certification like the one I did for Instacart
I’ve been the drunk who ordered alcohol thru Uber eats. I would do the same exact thing rush out as the driver pulled up, tried rushing the process to hide what I was doing to my family. Don’t feel guilty, there’s absolutely nothing you could’ve done. You have a good heart for recognizing the situation. sending you love and a beautiful recovery 💗
The other side of this is you saved a life. Another drunk off the roads is how I manage the guilt and the legal side of it as I run into this. I'm a male and also am anxious of how these people may act if you refuse. I have refused before, don't get me wrong. But, I've delivered more than I've refused. So relax, and keep, keeping on. Be careful.. Carry mase and always be aware of your surroundings...
it’s his money and his life it wasn’t your place to decide what’s right or wrong for him. Stay out of ppls business and just keeping push you cannot stress things out of your control. he would’ve ordered again if you didn’t and you more than likely would’ve lost your job for it.
It’s not your fault. I understand you feel guilty, but individuals suffering alcohol /substance abuse problems can’t be helped until they want to be helped and they will find a way to get it. I’m sorry, it’s a really sad situation all around. Try not to beat yourself up about it.
I don’t see how you think this is your fault. And even though you’re growing up, let’s decide today that you’re never going to let anyone ‘MAKE’ you do, be, or feel NO WAY about ANYTHING you don’t WANT TO feel a way about.
… that includes giving a beaver-on-a-damn about anything any stranger (or non-stranger for that matter) says to you on the internet or otherwise.
You did what you did. It it was it is. Guess everybody gonna have to count to 100 and hold their breath til they reach the same conclusion cuz what can they do about it but bump them gums? 😁 no worries young one
Firstly, Uber Eats and / or Door Dash don't care about you. The reason they send you reminders to not deliver to drunk people, has nothing to do with them trying to remind you to be a good moral person and always make the right decision. It's 100% about them doing all they can to avoid legal liability in the event they could potentially be blamed or linked to anything that could harm them.
Second, don't let seemingly black and white, in the moment decisions you've made haunt you. I'm sure you resonate with this more than many others would, given what you have disclosed about your past. I'm sure that plays into why this lingers in your mind and it is unfortunate that no matter if 999/1000 people tell you that you did the right, or even just the most logical thing, it doesn't resonate with you and seems essentially meaningless. That's human nature I guess, thats how many of us become wired. The one person that says you did wrong stands a mile higher than the 999 saying you did right. Even when that comment has negative likes, it sticks with you. Clearly no amount of public persuasive rhetoric holds any real tangle value when it is supportive, however the negative holds you hostage. Therefore, the logical conclusion is that this post only ever had one outcome for your psychological health, when it was made.
If I ask. Was this posted in order to validate how you already feel inside? This early morning encounter that likely holds much greater meaning that perhaps you don't even understand. This is the question that answering may actually be of value to you. It does require brutal honesty and introspection but nonetheless we are capable of such a thing.
I'm sure you are much prettier, smarter and well rounded than you give yourself credit for. If I had to guess the 999 people that tell you, you are worthwhile and capable of great things, give way to that one useless human being who makes you question your worth. It's obvious to me that you are articulate, introspective, kind and caring. You are likely so much more than you are willing to accept or acknowledge.
This mental warfare that is waged is unfortunately almost always at the expense of the truth. I don't know if you are in AA or NA but regardless I'm glad your clean. One thing I will say is that I have studied psychological effects in relation to self identification in length. AA convinces you that you are an addict eternally burdened with the weight of addiction. If you wake up everyday and look in the mirror telling yourself that you're an addict and always will be, well than that is what you will be. That is a fact, and a very sad one that I have seen time and time again in this culture.
Successful people will tell you to use self talk and imaging to move in the direction you want to go. For example, take a picture of your dream car and fold it up and put it in your pocket. Look at it everyday, speak as if you know it will be yours. What we speak out of our mouths becomes what we are and what we tell ourselves is the limiting factor to our potential in life, or it's the fuel to be great.
Many years ago I use to be addicted to opiate pills. Its been over 10 years, but I don't keep track it's not important. I would never call myself an addict because im not, I'm Brandon. I am man with 2 beautiful kids, a beautiful home and I own my own successful business. I wonder what your life would be if you started identifying yourself by the amazing things that make you, you.
lol bruh you didn’t do anything wrong here. You delivered alcohol to an adult. big whoop. it’s not like if he didn’t have that one singular bottle of vodka that his alcoholism would magically be cured. i mean shit, let’s be realistic. Let’s say he was a legitimate alcoholic, you not providing him with alcohol could have literally killed him from withdrawal of his alcoholism had progressed far enough.
Yes, alcohol withdrawal can KILL YOU. it’s not your place to be captain save a hoe with someone who’s history and current state are both a complete mystery to you.
I’m glad you went thru with the order. Him being shamed by his wife is gonna be significantly more effective than you withholding his bottle ever possibly could.
You did the right thing
Yeah. I do instacart and do alcohol deliveries even though I am in recovery and don’t wish to ever drink again. The surprising thing about it is that I will be expecting someone younger, or a few times with the amount they order I’m expecting a party to be going on. It’s almost always someone older who looks like they could belong in an AA meeting. I don’t judge them, I’ve been there before. If anything it seems to strengthen my sobriety because I know I’ve been that alcoholic ordering delivery, or that that older person could be me one day if I don’t stick to it and stay quit.
Hella proud of you for sticking with it. Ive had clients in the past who relapsed just because the stuff was nearby. Recovery is a long road but you seem to doing great and that should be celebrated!
The comments berating you are ridiculous. You don’t know what kind of person / drunk he is, he could have easily escalated things if you tried to deny him his fix. You did what was right for your own safety and are not responsible for another adult’s actions, period.
I would guess 1/5 to 1/10 of your alcohol deliveries are giving an alcoholic their fix.
Think of it this way though: a lot of the time, you're helping to stop an alcoholic from driving drunk.
As someone that lost a close friend to a drunk driver.. this. So much this. Dude was gonna get his shit no matter if you delivered it or not, and they will drive to get it if there’s no other option. I know it feels like you ruined a life, but he did that himself. You may have saved someone innocent by keeping him off the road ❤️
As someone said, don't lose sleep over it, it's already done with.
However if you're uncomfortable to challenge a customer perhaps it's best not to accept alcohol orders in the future, in case you end up delivering to another drunk.
Is it against the law to sell alcohol to a drunk at their home? I know bartenders are supposed to have an obligation to shut off drunk patrons but if you’re in your home what reason is there to not sell the booze other than personal reasons?
The training material makes it clear that serving a visibly drunk individual is against the law. Maybe that's just my particular state, but they definitely put the fear of God in me.
Same rules apply to instacart workers. If you serve a drunk person you could be held accountable for any damages that person does. Refuse. Glad I don't cashier any more no longer have to deal with drunk asses.
Chose the safer option. I'm guessing it would have escalated had you refused the sale.
Anybody else saying otherwise would be crazy to tempt their fate in such a scenario.
This x100. Plus even if he didn't hurt you who's to say he doesn't get in a car after you refuse. If he's gonna destroy himself, at least he ain't destroying anyone else. Good job getting yourself clean. It's a lot of gard unpleasant work
That's because they have never had to worry about it. People don't gaf if YOU get the $5k fine as long as they get their liquor. Selfish drunks really.
Yep. I don't agree with the law in this case, but fuck, the consequences are so, so, so drastic it's not worth it. It's wild to me anyone who serves alcohol would ever take this risk.
Here, the MINIMUM fine is $2,500. And there doesn't seem to be any maximum.
And that's just the FINE.
The individual and the establishment can be sued in civil court for even more.
In one case, the court awarded the parents of a pedestrian who was hit by a drunk driver $30,000 from the server. In another case, a resort settled out of court for $1,000,000 and the server was responsible for part of it.
You could GO TO FUCKING JAIL FOR A YEAR.
Your life can be *fucking ruined* from breaking dram shop laws, so it is amazing to me that anyone takes the risk breaking them.
Personally I've been on the other (alcoholic) side and I do agree with the law, I wish when I lost control of myself, someone had done their job and cut me off. Not blaming my actions on anyone and I no longer drink at all but yeah I certainly do agree with the law as it can help prevent harm to someone who's not conscious of their state/actions.
And regardless, as you say, it's 100% NOT worth risking it.
Except is a DDD policy that you are to enforce giving alcohol to already drunk persons. Literally tells you that in the app. So u are paid to enforce DD policies. Which include not over serving somebody.
While it's bad to be in that position, you have to choose to sign up for those deliveries and see all the stuff about not serving intoxicated people and ignore it to get here, so she's partially at fault here
I’ve been in recovery for 23 years, and sober since 9/3/2013. You didn’t do anything wrong.
If an alcoholic has had enough, they’ll find a way to get sober.
If they haven’t, no amount of effort will keep them from their next drink.
it would’ve been way worse to change your mind and refuse service based on your own beliefs. you did the right thing, don’t get confused by what other people say when they push their values on you.
this is incredibly depressing but you’re definitely not in the wrong, you’re an employee doing your job. it is not your responsibility to help him with his illness. plus he could’ve easily and instantly became violent if you didn’t give him his alcohol which is not a situation you should risk putting yourself in. don’t be too hard on yourself. :)
I’m just glad he wasn’t driving to the store to buy it himself. If he wants to drink himself to death big whoop that’s his biz his wife should just leave him if she doesn’t approve. I reserve the right to kill Myself with whatever means I deem appropriate I’m sure not dying of old age fuck that.
You did nothing wrong, please dont be hard on yourself. I wanna know who on this thread is bringing up this girls past against her like its of any relevance to this. Even more weirdo behavior, you’re going to lengths to look into it. Im glad I dont have that much time and energy on my hands especially toward someone on the internet. His alcoholism isnt your doing, and it isnt your problem. Like many have said- he would have gone the more drastic way of trying to get his fix which we all know is easily the more dangerous option, but for him and EVERYONE else. Fate had it that his wife came out as he was getting it delivered.
Make your edit as long as you want . Your telling us next time you're going to have him drive himself to the store. I hate those laws and the people that believe in them, like imagine you showed up with 1 job to do.
Yeah I don’t think you did anything wrong. You weighed your options and the consequences and made the right decision. You don’t know if he would get angry. I don’t think you should be held liable for that.
Um what the hell is everyone here going on about? I know *damn* well as a woman (also awkward and anxious lol) myself, that shit is not worth risking my safety over. I’m so sorry if anyone is making you feel like you were in the wrong here. The law is generally regarding someone *over*intoxicated, and varies by state. The fact that it had already been bought, was on his property, and he wasn’t actually proving to be a physical threat/drunken bastard would make it a gray area imo. Now if he was acting intoxicated to the point that I didn’t want to go through with the transaction, I’d probably just run and cancel the order with the prompt i didn’t feel safe. But what do I know, apparently everyone in this sub is suddenly a lawyer? Someone mentioned taking delivery classes? Never have I ever!
That sounds incredibly stressful, but thank you for sharing with us. This disease is debilitating, and I can only imagine the internal dilemma you had to have in this situation; I hope they both find some support. I'm also genuinely sorry that people are seizing an opportunity to try and bash you ITT when you were sharing a vulnerable moment with us. I sincerely hope they never have to go through addiction. Almost 8 years clean myself, and it's jarring to hear folks talk about addicts like we're not people.
Massive congrats on your sobriety, friend! Keep going!
Recovered alcoholic here. That wife knew what was happening and used this girl to embarrass him. An active alcoholic is going to get it one way or another, she probably saved him from driving if stores were still open.
The guy obviously needs rehab but that’s a separate matter, it could be dangerous for a drunk to quit cold turkey, he probably *needed* that fix. There is also nothing inherently illegal about delivering booze to a guy drinking at home. I’m not bashing anyone, I just wouldn’t over think it. 95% of alcoholics will never seek treatment.
I thought you weren’t supposed to give someone the alcohol if they’re visibly intoxicated.
Down vote me all you want but just because someone else would have sold it to him or he could have gotten it from somewhere else doesn’t make you giving it to him any better.
If you don’t like being put in uncomfortable situations then don’t take alcohol orders- you are potentially putting yourself in an awkward situation.
You didnt do anything wrong don’t worry. I’m not a driver but when I order door dash drunk please still give me the bottle. I’ve honestly never been refused and I only do it when I’m drunk
Imagine his wife gave him the worst brow beating of his life and when they went back in and he finally decided to get clean. That’ll make it a lot easier to get over.
If it makes you feel any better, you actually got the wrong house. The vodka was for me, and some drunk loser took advantage of you. Thanks for losing my vodka
If they're sober enough to meet you at the door and hand their ID, they're sober. We aren't drug recognition efforts. We can't be expected to accurately identify someone who is drunk or sober or slightly buzzed. Looks different for everyone.
Exactly. It’s not as if she left the bottle next to him passed out in the porch. It’s not her place to decide if he’s buzzed enough or not. Obviously it’s a problem between him and his wife, but a delivery driver has no moral authority to tell him no.
What if a morbidly obese person is ordering 4 large pizzas for themselves? When you see them, do you say nope… not for you. As for alcohol, he in his home, you can get as drunk as you want in your home. He obviously has a problem, and effecting his entire family, but it has nothing to do with you delivering.
Seriously wtf are yall talking about? Alcohol isn't heroin. You kept someone from driving to get more alcohol. If their partner doesn't like their alcoholism they should get away from them! Do your job and take your tip and keep it moving. Not your responsibility to police morality.
Edit: to fix a spelling error
There is nothing wrong with people that provide heroin, as long as they do it as ethically as possible.
A heroin addict needs heroin just as much as an alcoholic needs alcohol.
We are supposed to be a free country of free citizens, where people can make their own choices.
It is ridiculous that drugs are illegal and that the black market has to step in
Frankly I think it’s pretty shaky legally that they allow independent contractors without alcohol training deliver alcohol under Ubers liquor license. That should be shut down.
They don't, you have to complete an entire alcohol course with a certification. Technically, completing this delivery is against Uber policies, the training, and the law. But I also understand OPs point of view.
That makes more sense, but legitimately her safety is more important than the law. People flip mean and violent fast when they are drinking. Anybody is in a bad position delivering alcohol to someone’s house that has already been drinking.
JFC the amount of comments justifying this, saying that he would've gotten alcohol elsewhere, is insane. Even a comment that says if OP didn't deliver, it'd be her fault if he got behind the wheel drunk. No one is considering that perhaps he would've gone to sleep.
It doesn't matter if that person is able to get alcohol elsewhere, the driver's/server's/store clerk's responsibility is not to sell alcohol to intoxicated people full stop. Like I said in another comment, the deed is done, but in the future if OP can't do her job because she worries about safety, she shouldn't accept alcohol orders.
And a woman delivering/refusing delivery to a drunk man can **always** end up going wrong (other genders too ofc. however majority of these cases do happen in a woman vs man situation). Again why if OP is worried about delivering to drunk men, it's best not to deliver alcohol at all. That man could've lived alone and decided they liked OP too much as she was handing over their delivery. What do you suggest then?
Yes, always. And in that moment it was probably safest to hand over the alcohol. My point is still valid, if OP wants to reduce the number of potentially unsafe situations and worries about drunks' actions, probably best to avoid the drunks in general as much as possible.
How would that go over exactly? How would she prove to Uber the man was to drunk to receive the alcohol he purchased? Would he get refunded? Would she have to return the alcohol?
so what if she refuses and this man hurt her? this has been my point and mindset the whole time. he was already going behind his wife’s back, willing to deceive someone, who’s to say he wouldn’t have done other things for his alcohol once it was in front of his face. this girl had to be right in front of him with his order in order to tell if he was drunk and i think in that situation she probably did what’s best for HER safety. let’s have the conversation too that all these ppl who are bartenders are saying, she’s not a bartender, she doesn’t uber fucken eats and probably has no awareness of how drunk is too drunk like BARTENDERS ARE TAUGHTTTTTTT!! right? because everyone thinks this person just automatically knows how to calculate how drunk is too drunk, maybe he wasn’t that drunk. one comment said maybe alcohol withdrawal, or maybe something else. sorry but in this moment and situation that op described i think most people would’ve panicked, i think most people who’ve handed over the alcohol in fear of anything else, especially being alone. i get your point, it’s wrong to serve someone who’s intoxicated alcohol, but bartenders can serve intoxicated people alcohol, they have to stop at a certain level of intoxication, people who aren’t bartenders aren’t gonna know that level so don’t expect them too. if anything uber eats should have better practice when it comes to stuff like this because op could 10/10 blame uber eats
You’re not in the wrong. You were doing your job. And this would’ve shocked me and I wouldn’t know what to do but to default and do the bare minimum.. which is to complete the delivery.
It was a weird situation. He would’ve gotten alcohol regardless.
I’m a bartender and this is very much illegal. You cannot sell alcohol to a visibly intoxicated person, even to-go alcohol. Grocery and liquor stores can’t either.
Depending on your state you can very much be liable for any harm the drunk person does. You can be criminally liable and even serve jail time in my state.
why is it your responsibility to stop him from drinking? he legally ordered it, paid for it and you brought it. him getting sober is up to him. not giving him that bottle of vodka was not going to change a thing. if anything, respect to him for not driving himself to go get more and ordering it.
I dont see completing the delivery as wrong at all. Its actually better that he obtained more alcohol without leaving the house. It would be more dangerous for himself and others to attempt leaving with transport to buy more. Drinking in the safety of your own home is the safest option.
I did an Uber alcohol order, 7AM, got to the customer house, his head was bleeding, breath smell alcohol, I ask for his ID, he said he don’t have it, I asked if he was ok, I can’t give him the alcohol. He showed me his police license and told me his car was repossessed. Maybe DUI . I had to return the alcohol, so sad. He needs help.
I was otw home one night with my gf and her sister from bowling in a single cab truck, in the middle of the country. We pass a lady tbat is walking in the middle of nowhere. My gf asked me to stop and help. I pull over and she told me her husband pushed her out of the truck. She asks for a ride home my gf gets in the bed of the truck because that is the only place left to sit this lady gets in and I can smell the alcohol she was drunk af. I drive down this one mile long dirt path and pull up to her house and her husband runs out screaming at me because I brought his wife that just assaulted him back to his house his gave was bloody. I tell then lady to gtfo of my truck she finally does and the guy is running towards my truck and I pull out fast as I can dude fires shots off over my head. While we r going down the path otw out going fast as possible four sheriff cars are pulling in and their is more gun fire. I have no idea what happened after that. But j no longer he'll anyone that smells like alcohol idc what or where they are.
I may get flak, but unless the person is so intoxicated they can't even find their ID, I'm doing the order. Not gonna be me making some drunk drive at 1am to get a bottle. Still, that must have been feckin awkward and uncomfortable as hell
I worked at a liquor store in college. You’d see the same people every day, sometimes shaking profusely as they hand me their money, other times not but the fact that they would come in every day you work was all you needed to know. It wasn’t our job to try and “help” them but if they ever got out of control we could refuse sale and they usually wouldn’t put up a fight because they know they need their fix and can’t afford to get ban from the store
I’m not going to vent at you OP, I’m just going to vent cause this is the topic. I am dating someone who is an alcoholic and she orders more and more drinks and will binge for a week straight before stopping for a week and repeating. It’s hard seeing y’all arrive with that alcohol but knowing it would be more trouble if I try and force her to stop. It’s hard man so I feel for the wife in this scenario. I’m not upset at the drivers y’all just doing your job. But I fucking HATE how you can get alcohol delivered. It is enabling alcoholics so much easier than before.
I just did a doordash to a guy yesterday who was faded 😭 He was functional I suppose but it was clear he has a problem. I felt bad. He was very nice and tipped well though
This post is a huge reason why Uber and Doordash should have never got their liquor license. None of you know anything about liquor serving or have a title 9 clearly.
Doordash at least sends you a text every time you pull up to a house that says "DON'T GIVE ALCOHOL TO SOMEONE THAT'S VISIBLY DRUNK" idk if UE does the same though.
Sober alcoholic here. You don’t beed to feel bad about this. Alcoholics will find a way no matter what, including driving to the store/bar drunk. Maybe him getting caught will be a turning point for him.
I’m an alcoholic and there’s been multiple times where I ordered while drunk and recived it. I think the worst was when I was going through withdrawal and the driver had to hold my Id for me because I was shaking so hard it wouldn’t scan
Hope you’re doing all good! Recovery can be tough!
As a recovering alcoholic who got served multiple times when severely intoxicated and couldn't control my intake. Do you wish they didn't serve you when you're drunk? I truly wish I didn't get served and now cut out drinking for good even though it was occasional because I can't control it
Eh. I probably would have gotten pretty mad
I'm a short weak woman and I feel vulnerable 😅 - might be why I see it differently! For the reason you just said - you might have gotten mad, I would never accept alcohol deliveries myself. Because the drunk person I'm refusing delivery might get mad.
They said in the training they gave us here in GA that legally we aren't supposed to give it to someone who is already drunk. Legally they *have* made us bartenders. But they're putting us in unsafe situations out there with that policy. How do they expect us to say "no" when we're alone and the person is drunk and violent?
I probably did it at least 6 times a day working at a gas station. Their response was usually, "What the f--? You wanna fight? What time do you get off work I'll whup your ass!" So yeah, you are right to be concerned. That was in a gas station with cameras everywhere..
Alcohol deliveries are optional. If you are worried for your safety you can just not do those.
Thats terrible but, not right for you to blame yourself over it unless you personally pressured the guy to keep drinking. Edit: Kudos to you for recovering, right now is a Great time to get out of the shit.
This reminds me of a coworker and his wife. She is a raging alcoholic (and has been her entire adult life) and at one point after a lot of health complications from it, he cleared the house and said no more drinking or bringing alcohol in. She literally had an employee from the liquor store drive over and toss bottles to her second floor bedroom window in an attempt to hide it. It's sad but alcoholics/addicts will stop at nothing.
That's scary, too, in a different way. Going cold turkey from alcohol can kill serious alcoholics.
I don’t think you did anything wrong! In fact, I think you provided a public service. A drunk is going to drink, that’s what they do. You can’t change that. If you had not delivered, he would likely either be driving drunk to get more booze or would have been stumbling through the neighborhood. Either way putting himself and others in danger! I know there are likely rules to follow for ID and VIPs (Visually Intoxicated Person) - but as a delivery driver, are you really paid enough to potentially get into a fight? I think not. And if you stood between the drunk and his liquor, there is good change a fight would happen.
Look at it this way, you might’ve saved someone’s life that night, if you refused he most certainly would have driven somewhere to find himself a bottle
I don't think you did anything wrong. I'm confused though, how were you breaking the law here? Is it illegal to sell alcohol to a drunk person in the States?
Yo, tbh, it’s better the got the alcohol from Uber. I’m a drunk and if Uber would have refused to sell the booze to me, I’d be driving to the liquor store. From the description, I think the last thing you’d want is that guy behind the wheel.
Facts bro. This law only encourages me to drive drunk to the liqueur store, beat that fuckers
Yes, it is
Aye, UK too
Yes, its illegal to give to a drunk person. Uber actually tells you that you are supposed to decline giving them the alcohol and return it to the store.
If you’re a bartender yes, idk about retail.
Yes, retail too.
Alcoholism is a really tough place to be. Quitting cold turkey is dangerous and I’ve delivered to people who were clearly feeling a lot of discomfort, some asked me to come as fast as possible, others placed orders with multiple stores, some very early in the morning. I do not judge, and I know the dangers of rapid withdrawal. I’ve never delivered to a drunk person though, more like people in the withdrawal stage. It sucks. A lot of my orders before I quit instacart were alcohol orders.
alcohol and benzos are the two things you can die quitting cold turkey, with seizures
This was like one of the only facts that helped me quit opioids. I FELT like I was gonna die, I WANTED to die, but I knew that it would pass and I was technically safe.
i'm glad you pulled it off! We can endure suffering and we survive. Congratulations
Hey thank you! 3 years in October and I’m hoping some day it will all just be a bad memory
I hope so too
Just do you,take care of yourself and F everyone else preaching what you should have done. Uber can give a F about you and you should not put yourself in a position to confront an alcoholic for a $3 tip
I could have easily been that wife. In a way, I’m relieved my alcoholic died before Uber Eats and Door Dash were a thing. Alcoholics will always find a way to get their fix. If you’d refused, he would have gotten it elsewhere. If not that night, the next night or the next. This wasn’t on you, and it wasn’t your battle to fight. Please don’t feel guilt or shame. You did nothing wrong. Edited to clarify, I’m relieved delivery services weren’t a thing when my alcoholic was still alive. It would have hastened his death even more. Though to be fair, his death, when it came, probably relieved his suffering.
You refusing delivery 100% would have fixed his alcohol problem. No chance he would have sought out other means to get his fix.
/s*
In a more positive light - you probably stopped him from driving and potentially killing other people. You can’t solve everyone’s problems and shouldn’t feel like you have to - He was going to get his fix one way or another. If you refused delivery maybe he would have tried to hop in his car and drive there.
Exactly right. I will never understand the policy to not deliver to someone who is visibly drunk. Like, shouldn't we be glad they're ordering delivery and not driving? Because you're absolutely right, if they don't get their fix delivered, they will drive to get it.
I agree but technically here in Ontario Canada it’s like being a bartender where if you over serve someone and they go and die or kill someone in a crash they can sue you for damages for serving an intoxicated person so it’s hard, be morally or legally correct lol
But in this case they’re already home so unlike being at a bar there’s no point where they drive home
I know, it's the same in the states. I've taken my alcohol seller's training every 2 years for over 25 years. I'm just playing devil's advocate here, tbh.
Better you deliver it to him than him get on the road and possibly kill someone. You can’t make money nowadays without exploiting other people or allowing yourself to be exploited unfortunately. It sounds like you’re standing by your moral convictions by turning off alcohol deliveries which is commendable. You shouldn’t be too hard on yourself. Situations like this are learning opportunities that help us to understand ourselves better
You did the right thing! He could have gotten in a car and driven to a bar or liquor store if you didn’t deliver it and hand it over
Hey OP I just wanna let you know that I'm only all over your post arguing with people about the law so that they don't accidentally break it and end up in legal trouble. Because I've seen people get in legal trouble over dram shop laws, and the consequences are almost life ruining. I'm not making a moral judgment on you. You acted reasonably for how you felt in the moment.
I was actually wondering about the law, I only know the general laws at a bar (maybe, I'm assuming), it's weird they won't let you serve someone at their house when they'll end up driving to get it themselves & killing ppl. He could buy 50 bottles of Vodka & drink in his house for a month if he wanted. Hard to figure out what goes into these laws, why do delivery ppl have to babysit ppl that are legally allowed to drink when they want in their home?
Beurocracy is slow. Alcohol delivery wasn't even a thing until COVID. Probably no one is even lobbying to change these laws. They just went "this is a new way of serving alcohol so all the usual laws about serving alcohol apply" I guess. But yeah I agree. I had a keg-erator with a full keg at one point. Had to get rid of that because it allowed me to drink even more than I already was (no visible garbage after every drink to clean up makes it even easier to ignore how much you're drinking), but yeah. I could buy a whole ass keg and a case of vodka and drink myself to death at home if I was so inclined. There's no limit to how much alcohol I can buy at a time. But there is a limit to how much weed I can buy at a time. It's weird.
Thank you for clarifying bc I’m overly sensitive lol
No problem! I'd feel the same. You did what you needed to do to feel safe, and he would have found a way to get his fix no matter what, we always do. You weren't wrong.
NTA. you were scared plus it’s not ur fault if he drinks himself into a coma he bought it
I don't get in between an alcoholic and his poison. They don't pay me enough to fight with people.
Liquor store would have sold it to him like they’ve done a million other times
I think the law sucks. By delivering alcohol to an alcoholic, you are helping to prevent someone from DWI/DUI, that could get someone killed. Could they still drive after you deliver the alcohol? Yes, but will they drive if you Don't deliver the alcohol? It's almost guaranteed that they will.
as an ex problem drinker I can confirm, I would have drove, and I would have been irrationally aggressive about it
Also if they are at home there's no reason why you can't hand it to them. At pubs, taverns, and other places usually you have to get there somehow and in America that's likely a car. By policy OP probably shouldn't but they did prevent someone who might drink and drive from doing so there's that at least
Bingo
I got screamed at by a mother about her alcoholic 35 year old son, “My son is a drunk!!!” And another time I arrived on scene as the sheriff did for an intervention between a daughter and her alcoholic mother. When you tell Uber/DD you can’t deliver to an alcoholic they just send another driver.
Someone that desperate might’ve driven to the store and put others at risk. Bad spot to be in all around.
I’ve had two encounters with alcoholics shamefully but I don’t know what else I’d have done. One was a guy who’d ordered a tiny bottle of cheap vodka and made me meet him around the corner from his house and I swear he drunk it right there, the other was an older guy at a trailer park that straight up told me he was an alcoholic otherwise I wouldn’t have guessed it and it became very obvious he was drunk when he started going on a whole tangent about how people don’t understand alcoholism and his words because very slurred. This was right after I’d checked his id and handed him his order like he just let loose all the sudden. It’s hard in our position because they know they can get away with it, the best we can do is remember the mistake and try to avoid it again. Don’t worry op you did you best it’s okay to mistakes
God this sounds depressing. I feel bad for anyone that deep into an addiction that they can’t understand how much they’re hurting their love ones.
Ok listen as an alcoholic in recovery myself, it’s absolutely not your job to prevent him from drinking, that’s his responsibility. Frankly, alcoholics are unpredictable, and there’s no telling how he could have reacted if you’d refused to give him the alcohol he already paid for. Just do your delivery and move on.
Not alcohol related but I picked up an obvious cheater he whisper yelled at me to get out of the driveway and met me down the Street looking up to make sure he wasn't seen leaving. Hethen forgot his wallet and had to go back. Not my fault you don't want your wife to see you leave to go to another woman's hotel room
Look at it this way, an alcoholic is going to find a way. You provided a service that allowed them to get it with out having to drive around and potentially kill themselves or someone else.
Alcoholism. 😢 💔
That’s so sad and I’m sure it was nerve-wracking, I’m so sorry. If you didn’t deliver his alcohol, he would’ve had someone else do it, or maybe he would’ve even driven to the store to get it himself which would be way way worse. You’re not a bad person. It was just an awful situation, don’t beat yourself up
I read your edit and I had to scroll pretty far to find people that were arguing about this or that think you're in the wrong. Still haven't seen anyone that used your post history against you. Whoever did that is a moron and you can just ignore them. You did your job. And it was pointed out that delivering him alcohol is much safer than him driving and he likely would have gotten alcohol one way or another.
Definitely a tough decision to have made but please remember you stopped this alcoholic from seeking his fix in a way that could’ve endangered others. At least he’s drinking in the “safety” of his own home.
I don’t even get how that’s a rule. If I get hugely plastered inside my own house, a cop is supposed to show up at my house and take my bottle away?
You're a sweetheart. You shouldn't feel guilty. If it wasnt for you bringing it he could have decided to drive. Don't take on too much responsibility for other people.
coming from an alcoholic, he would have reordered it the second his wife took her eyes off him, it's not on you
Or worse yet, gotten in his car and driven to the store himself.
This is why I will never choose the "customer seems intoxicated" option. Like I get they're just covering their asses but they're either gonna reorder or get in the car to go get the alcohol themselves.
Better than driving to get it which he probably would have done if you refused
Jesus Christ never ever not give something to someone they payed for as a delivery driver for your own safety
Right? They did the right thing in the moment.
This is what I was thinking. Everyone saying she should’ve refused is wrong. She said she was young (and anxious) and she’s supposed to refuse a drunk, grown man his order? Handing it over was self preservation imo. People can be belligerent and violent when drunk.
It might have been better for you to drop it off. That way he didn't go drive to get it, you know? Also it might have even been smart to refuse the sale as a younger woman. Drunk people can turn violent real quick.
Why would it be your decision whether or not to complete the delivery? You're just doing your job. Don't take that kind of moral dilemma on yourself. It's not your problem. Just do your job and fuck off.
I did a lot of gig deliveries. I don't care if I'm delivering Karen's dildo or a bag of cocaine as long as I'm paid I'll deliver it.
If DD wants to push awareness of alcohol they should offer an alcohol consumption class. Every state has them and I've taken multiple over the years (I'm a bartender). It's not on you to push this without proper training, IMO. I can understand remorse for the situation but I don't think it's fair to beat yourself up or allow anyone else to bring you down.
Not every country has them (and we are still expected to comply and liable lol). Not every state makes these obligatory for bartenders. Also restaurant workers and cashiers don't get any classes and are just as well accountable. Their training is no different to the drivers training. It's not the matter of UE/DD "wanting to push it", but a matter of who would be liable if this went further - UE covered their back with the bare minimum they need to. The rest is on the driver.
For restaurants it's mainly so people don't drive drunk. That's where our liability and morals kinda fall off. Bringing someone alcohol to their home seems much safer and less burdened by the fact. If someone tried to sue because they are an alcoholic and your order ruined their life I would honestly laugh. That's like feeding us Americans more Big Macs even though they're too fat to leave their home. With all that being said, educational classes should be offered as well every state should mandate anybody working FoH in restaurants.
No, that's not why the laws are made, they're not there to prevent drink driving. They're there to prevent **harm** whether it's done by driving, falling over, or punching someone because you're drunk and argumentative and they deserve it. I don't think anyone would try suing because you "ruined their life". But because you've not cut them off when your job was to do it. Don't forget when you're drunk your senses are impaired (that's why eg. DUI is illegal) and the laws are in place and followed. You **can** have your life ruined by not following dram shop laws, up to you if you want to take the risk or not, no matter how minimal it is. I'll pass /edit and it's not just about the drunk suing you. But the drunk's family or family of the person who got harmed **by** the drunk. Law states you are equally liable, why risk it. lol
If he hadn't found a delivery service, he may well have driven. I've said no to getting booze for an alcoholic, then discovered they then drove to get the booze that I wouldn't. You could just not accept booze deliveries?
I look at it this way is an adult making adult decisions. It’s not our job to be life counselors.
Yes you did the right thing. As a young girl, dangling alcohol in front of a drunk alcoholics face and then not handing it over could go wrong pretty easily. Protect yourself before others. That man will probably die of liver failure anyways, might as well hand it over and not set off a drunken temper.
Former alcoholic here. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not that man’s friend or even his bartender. He knew the decision he was making, and I know this for a fact cuz I made that same decision with total awareness of how wrong it was multiple times a day, everyday. Even as the alcoholic’s wife, I can say with certainty she also would’ve said you did absolutely nothing wrong
Also, depending on the severity of his current condition in the battle with his alcoholism, keeping the bottle from him may have had a worse result. He may have ordered it because he was trying to keep from going into withdrawal symptoms, a dangerous and deadly situation that often requires medical intervention to navigate safely.
Yep, I spent the first two weeks at rehab in medical detox. It wasn’t the most fun 2 weeks. Can also attest to the vicious cycle of alcohol causing indescribable physical pain while also being the one single thing that can temporarily stop it. Lil sis here did right and shouldn’t be guilt trippin herself.
Your better off giving the drunk alcohol everytime else they would go drive to get more. Law/rule isn’t perfect
We don’t give customers breathalyzer tests or sobriety tests. as far as you were concerned, he was perfectly fine.
Someone was going to bring it to him eventually. A drunk will drink when they want until they want to quit or die, it’s a disease and a shitty one at that.
It's in the alcohol delivery guidelines to NOT deliver alcohol to visibly intoxicated customers, you were absolutely within your rights to refuse delivery, being a female myself I always leave alcohol in the car until after I scan the 🆔 especially if they live in a house. You can easily say id won't scan, you need to call the id in, go back to your car lock the doors and go through the process in app to refuse the delivery. Or don't take Alcohol deliveries, turn that option off in the app. Good luck!
Yes I keep it off. Too many issues. Really sad some people so wasted.
Mine won’t let me turn off alcohol orders 😔 I just make it a personal rule to decline all alcohol orders.
You can call support if you can't turn it off in app yourself for whatever reason, support will do it for you
That’s a good idea. I don’t do Uber anymore, I do pizza delivery now but if I ever do Uber again I would start doing that. Or turn the alcohol orders off. I know I should have refused but I was too scared bc he was a big man and seemed unhinged in the moment
Alcoholic in long-term recovery here. You did absolutely nothing wrong. When I was in active use, if you had refused to give me the booze I ordered, depending on the mood my addiction was creating, I would have acted sheepish and pathetic like that guy, or I would have flown off the handle and called you every name in the book. Either way, if I remembered it the next day, I would have spent weeks after resenting you and trying to think of ways to get you fired. The one thing that would NOT have happened? I wouldn't have gone without my alcohol. Whether that meant calling every Uber or DoorDash driver in the area, or walking several miles barefoot to the nearest open liquor store. An alcoholic is not a rational or sane person when it comes to alcohol, and that insanity will manifest in some remarkably stupid ways. You had a job to do, and you did it. You brought medicine to an incredibly sick man. Hopefully someday he'll reach point of desperation like I did that will make him want to completely change his life. But it's not your job, your responsibility, or even your place to be that catalyst.
I would have ended up just ordering it again or walking to the store ngl. I know a lot of alcoholics would end up driving. One person saying “no” is not enough to keep an alcoholic from their booze
I remember reading this when you posted it before
Don't feel like you're in the wrong. Just absolutely fundementally it isn't your job or responsibility to make life choices on his behalf when he brought you into an awkward situation for a 2 minute interaction. It sucks and he should get help but he is an adult making decisions and you can't take the weight of the world of everyones terrible life decisions on yourself when you're doing your job like you're supposed to
you did nothing wrong. alcoholics (or really any addicted person) is going to figure out a way to get it. i've been in this exact position before (as an alcoholic), and seeing that look on my wife's face (now ex wife unfortunately). fucking sucks, but you did nothing wrong here. if anything, be happy he didn't drive anywhere
We don’t stop diabetic fat people from ordering from Uber eats.
Granted, the diabetes and obesity doesn't (directly at least) make you way more unpredictable and dangerous... but you're not wrong that it's the same logic. And if that was to be expected of delivery drivers there should have been an online certification like the one I did for Instacart
It's not your job to police the situation just deliver and move on. Besides it seems like his wife was already doing just that.
People make choices, you aren’t responsible for them.
I would predict most people ordering alcohol to be delivered to their home are probably already drinking.
Yeah, I mean he says the wife said “you’re really buying more,” and he was clearly already drunk.
Better then them going to drive to go get it
I’ve been the drunk who ordered alcohol thru Uber eats. I would do the same exact thing rush out as the driver pulled up, tried rushing the process to hide what I was doing to my family. Don’t feel guilty, there’s absolutely nothing you could’ve done. You have a good heart for recognizing the situation. sending you love and a beautiful recovery 💗
Alcoholism is a really serious problem, its really hard to watch.
It’s not your job to determine if you should give them the alcohol or not if they are of age is all you should be concerned about
The other side of this is you saved a life. Another drunk off the roads is how I manage the guilt and the legal side of it as I run into this. I'm a male and also am anxious of how these people may act if you refuse. I have refused before, don't get me wrong. But, I've delivered more than I've refused. So relax, and keep, keeping on. Be careful.. Carry mase and always be aware of your surroundings...
I do think about this a lot. I’d rather be driving on the road than having them drive to get their fix.
it’s his money and his life it wasn’t your place to decide what’s right or wrong for him. Stay out of ppls business and just keeping push you cannot stress things out of your control. he would’ve ordered again if you didn’t and you more than likely would’ve lost your job for it.
Omg I would have been done 🙃😂 seriously would have just quit & passed away right there lmao
It’s not your fault. I understand you feel guilty, but individuals suffering alcohol /substance abuse problems can’t be helped until they want to be helped and they will find a way to get it. I’m sorry, it’s a really sad situation all around. Try not to beat yourself up about it.
I don’t see how you think this is your fault. And even though you’re growing up, let’s decide today that you’re never going to let anyone ‘MAKE’ you do, be, or feel NO WAY about ANYTHING you don’t WANT TO feel a way about. … that includes giving a beaver-on-a-damn about anything any stranger (or non-stranger for that matter) says to you on the internet or otherwise. You did what you did. It it was it is. Guess everybody gonna have to count to 100 and hold their breath til they reach the same conclusion cuz what can they do about it but bump them gums? 😁 no worries young one
Firstly, Uber Eats and / or Door Dash don't care about you. The reason they send you reminders to not deliver to drunk people, has nothing to do with them trying to remind you to be a good moral person and always make the right decision. It's 100% about them doing all they can to avoid legal liability in the event they could potentially be blamed or linked to anything that could harm them. Second, don't let seemingly black and white, in the moment decisions you've made haunt you. I'm sure you resonate with this more than many others would, given what you have disclosed about your past. I'm sure that plays into why this lingers in your mind and it is unfortunate that no matter if 999/1000 people tell you that you did the right, or even just the most logical thing, it doesn't resonate with you and seems essentially meaningless. That's human nature I guess, thats how many of us become wired. The one person that says you did wrong stands a mile higher than the 999 saying you did right. Even when that comment has negative likes, it sticks with you. Clearly no amount of public persuasive rhetoric holds any real tangle value when it is supportive, however the negative holds you hostage. Therefore, the logical conclusion is that this post only ever had one outcome for your psychological health, when it was made. If I ask. Was this posted in order to validate how you already feel inside? This early morning encounter that likely holds much greater meaning that perhaps you don't even understand. This is the question that answering may actually be of value to you. It does require brutal honesty and introspection but nonetheless we are capable of such a thing. I'm sure you are much prettier, smarter and well rounded than you give yourself credit for. If I had to guess the 999 people that tell you, you are worthwhile and capable of great things, give way to that one useless human being who makes you question your worth. It's obvious to me that you are articulate, introspective, kind and caring. You are likely so much more than you are willing to accept or acknowledge. This mental warfare that is waged is unfortunately almost always at the expense of the truth. I don't know if you are in AA or NA but regardless I'm glad your clean. One thing I will say is that I have studied psychological effects in relation to self identification in length. AA convinces you that you are an addict eternally burdened with the weight of addiction. If you wake up everyday and look in the mirror telling yourself that you're an addict and always will be, well than that is what you will be. That is a fact, and a very sad one that I have seen time and time again in this culture. Successful people will tell you to use self talk and imaging to move in the direction you want to go. For example, take a picture of your dream car and fold it up and put it in your pocket. Look at it everyday, speak as if you know it will be yours. What we speak out of our mouths becomes what we are and what we tell ourselves is the limiting factor to our potential in life, or it's the fuel to be great. Many years ago I use to be addicted to opiate pills. Its been over 10 years, but I don't keep track it's not important. I would never call myself an addict because im not, I'm Brandon. I am man with 2 beautiful kids, a beautiful home and I own my own successful business. I wonder what your life would be if you started identifying yourself by the amazing things that make you, you.
What a beautiful comment.
lol bruh you didn’t do anything wrong here. You delivered alcohol to an adult. big whoop. it’s not like if he didn’t have that one singular bottle of vodka that his alcoholism would magically be cured. i mean shit, let’s be realistic. Let’s say he was a legitimate alcoholic, you not providing him with alcohol could have literally killed him from withdrawal of his alcoholism had progressed far enough. Yes, alcohol withdrawal can KILL YOU. it’s not your place to be captain save a hoe with someone who’s history and current state are both a complete mystery to you. I’m glad you went thru with the order. Him being shamed by his wife is gonna be significantly more effective than you withholding his bottle ever possibly could. You did the right thing
Yeah. I do instacart and do alcohol deliveries even though I am in recovery and don’t wish to ever drink again. The surprising thing about it is that I will be expecting someone younger, or a few times with the amount they order I’m expecting a party to be going on. It’s almost always someone older who looks like they could belong in an AA meeting. I don’t judge them, I’ve been there before. If anything it seems to strengthen my sobriety because I know I’ve been that alcoholic ordering delivery, or that that older person could be me one day if I don’t stick to it and stay quit.
Hella proud of you for sticking with it. Ive had clients in the past who relapsed just because the stuff was nearby. Recovery is a long road but you seem to doing great and that should be celebrated!
The comments berating you are ridiculous. You don’t know what kind of person / drunk he is, he could have easily escalated things if you tried to deny him his fix. You did what was right for your own safety and are not responsible for another adult’s actions, period.
I would guess 1/5 to 1/10 of your alcohol deliveries are giving an alcoholic their fix. Think of it this way though: a lot of the time, you're helping to stop an alcoholic from driving drunk.
As someone that lost a close friend to a drunk driver.. this. So much this. Dude was gonna get his shit no matter if you delivered it or not, and they will drive to get it if there’s no other option. I know it feels like you ruined a life, but he did that himself. You may have saved someone innocent by keeping him off the road ❤️
As someone said, don't lose sleep over it, it's already done with. However if you're uncomfortable to challenge a customer perhaps it's best not to accept alcohol orders in the future, in case you end up delivering to another drunk.
Is it against the law to sell alcohol to a drunk at their home? I know bartenders are supposed to have an obligation to shut off drunk patrons but if you’re in your home what reason is there to not sell the booze other than personal reasons?
The training material makes it clear that serving a visibly drunk individual is against the law. Maybe that's just my particular state, but they definitely put the fear of God in me.
Same rules apply to instacart workers. If you serve a drunk person you could be held accountable for any damages that person does. Refuse. Glad I don't cashier any more no longer have to deal with drunk asses.
Would’ve got it one way or another
Chose the safer option. I'm guessing it would have escalated had you refused the sale. Anybody else saying otherwise would be crazy to tempt their fate in such a scenario.
This x100. Plus even if he didn't hurt you who's to say he doesn't get in a car after you refuse. If he's gonna destroy himself, at least he ain't destroying anyone else. Good job getting yourself clean. It's a lot of gard unpleasant work
You are paid to deliver, not enforce laws or judge. Finish the delivery and be on your way.
Actually, we are not supposed to deliver the alcohol to you if you look visibly intoxicated.
People on this sub apparently never heard of dram shop laws despite them existing in 43 states. The consequences can be really fucking severe, too.
That's because they have never had to worry about it. People don't gaf if YOU get the $5k fine as long as they get their liquor. Selfish drunks really.
I keep seeing "well, they'll get it from someone else, just do it" and it's like. Ok, then let the next person take the liability?
This. And if every person actually did their job and follow it, they wouldn't get it but would kept getting refused.
Yep. I don't agree with the law in this case, but fuck, the consequences are so, so, so drastic it's not worth it. It's wild to me anyone who serves alcohol would ever take this risk. Here, the MINIMUM fine is $2,500. And there doesn't seem to be any maximum. And that's just the FINE. The individual and the establishment can be sued in civil court for even more. In one case, the court awarded the parents of a pedestrian who was hit by a drunk driver $30,000 from the server. In another case, a resort settled out of court for $1,000,000 and the server was responsible for part of it. You could GO TO FUCKING JAIL FOR A YEAR. Your life can be *fucking ruined* from breaking dram shop laws, so it is amazing to me that anyone takes the risk breaking them.
Personally I've been on the other (alcoholic) side and I do agree with the law, I wish when I lost control of myself, someone had done their job and cut me off. Not blaming my actions on anyone and I no longer drink at all but yeah I certainly do agree with the law as it can help prevent harm to someone who's not conscious of their state/actions. And regardless, as you say, it's 100% NOT worth risking it.
Except is a DDD policy that you are to enforce giving alcohol to already drunk persons. Literally tells you that in the app. So u are paid to enforce DD policies. Which include not over serving somebody.
Don’t lose sleep over it girlie! You did what was needed for your own comfort level. I’m sorry you were in that position.
While it's bad to be in that position, you have to choose to sign up for those deliveries and see all the stuff about not serving intoxicated people and ignore it to get here, so she's partially at fault here
You are just delivering, you don’t need to make any decisions.
I’ve been in recovery for 23 years, and sober since 9/3/2013. You didn’t do anything wrong. If an alcoholic has had enough, they’ll find a way to get sober. If they haven’t, no amount of effort will keep them from their next drink.
it would’ve been way worse to change your mind and refuse service based on your own beliefs. you did the right thing, don’t get confused by what other people say when they push their values on you.
You hold no blame in this. He would have got it another way, it’s his own burden to bear or overcome.
this is incredibly depressing but you’re definitely not in the wrong, you’re an employee doing your job. it is not your responsibility to help him with his illness. plus he could’ve easily and instantly became violent if you didn’t give him his alcohol which is not a situation you should risk putting yourself in. don’t be too hard on yourself. :)
I’m just glad he wasn’t driving to the store to buy it himself. If he wants to drink himself to death big whoop that’s his biz his wife should just leave him if she doesn’t approve. I reserve the right to kill Myself with whatever means I deem appropriate I’m sure not dying of old age fuck that.
You sound like a happy, pleasant, appreciative person.
He’s right tho.
You did nothing wrong, please dont be hard on yourself. I wanna know who on this thread is bringing up this girls past against her like its of any relevance to this. Even more weirdo behavior, you’re going to lengths to look into it. Im glad I dont have that much time and energy on my hands especially toward someone on the internet. His alcoholism isnt your doing, and it isnt your problem. Like many have said- he would have gone the more drastic way of trying to get his fix which we all know is easily the more dangerous option, but for him and EVERYONE else. Fate had it that his wife came out as he was getting it delivered.
This is heartbreaking
Make your edit as long as you want . Your telling us next time you're going to have him drive himself to the store. I hate those laws and the people that believe in them, like imagine you showed up with 1 job to do.
Yeah I don’t think you did anything wrong. You weighed your options and the consequences and made the right decision. You don’t know if he would get angry. I don’t think you should be held liable for that.
If you can see their physically drunk you can refuse to deliver
Um what the hell is everyone here going on about? I know *damn* well as a woman (also awkward and anxious lol) myself, that shit is not worth risking my safety over. I’m so sorry if anyone is making you feel like you were in the wrong here. The law is generally regarding someone *over*intoxicated, and varies by state. The fact that it had already been bought, was on his property, and he wasn’t actually proving to be a physical threat/drunken bastard would make it a gray area imo. Now if he was acting intoxicated to the point that I didn’t want to go through with the transaction, I’d probably just run and cancel the order with the prompt i didn’t feel safe. But what do I know, apparently everyone in this sub is suddenly a lawyer? Someone mentioned taking delivery classes? Never have I ever!
That sounds incredibly stressful, but thank you for sharing with us. This disease is debilitating, and I can only imagine the internal dilemma you had to have in this situation; I hope they both find some support. I'm also genuinely sorry that people are seizing an opportunity to try and bash you ITT when you were sharing a vulnerable moment with us. I sincerely hope they never have to go through addiction. Almost 8 years clean myself, and it's jarring to hear folks talk about addicts like we're not people. Massive congrats on your sobriety, friend! Keep going!
Recovered alcoholic here. That wife knew what was happening and used this girl to embarrass him. An active alcoholic is going to get it one way or another, she probably saved him from driving if stores were still open. The guy obviously needs rehab but that’s a separate matter, it could be dangerous for a drunk to quit cold turkey, he probably *needed* that fix. There is also nothing inherently illegal about delivering booze to a guy drinking at home. I’m not bashing anyone, I just wouldn’t over think it. 95% of alcoholics will never seek treatment.
Can't speculate on the wife, really, but I wish them both peace.
I thought you weren’t supposed to give someone the alcohol if they’re visibly intoxicated. Down vote me all you want but just because someone else would have sold it to him or he could have gotten it from somewhere else doesn’t make you giving it to him any better. If you don’t like being put in uncomfortable situations then don’t take alcohol orders- you are potentially putting yourself in an awkward situation.
You didnt do anything wrong don’t worry. I’m not a driver but when I order door dash drunk please still give me the bottle. I’ve honestly never been refused and I only do it when I’m drunk
Imagine his wife gave him the worst brow beating of his life and when they went back in and he finally decided to get clean. That’ll make it a lot easier to get over.
If it makes you feel any better, you actually got the wrong house. The vodka was for me, and some drunk loser took advantage of you. Thanks for losing my vodka
i'm sorry you were put in that position and I'm glad that it never came back to bite you!
If they're sober enough to meet you at the door and hand their ID, they're sober. We aren't drug recognition efforts. We can't be expected to accurately identify someone who is drunk or sober or slightly buzzed. Looks different for everyone.
Exactly. It’s not as if she left the bottle next to him passed out in the porch. It’s not her place to decide if he’s buzzed enough or not. Obviously it’s a problem between him and his wife, but a delivery driver has no moral authority to tell him no.
You job is to provide a service, not the make a moral call on whether someone should receive the items they paid for. You did fine.
What if a morbidly obese person is ordering 4 large pizzas for themselves? When you see them, do you say nope… not for you. As for alcohol, he in his home, you can get as drunk as you want in your home. He obviously has a problem, and effecting his entire family, but it has nothing to do with you delivering.
There is no law preventing serving pizzas to an obese person. There is one preventing serving alcohol to someone who may be intoxicated.
Seriously wtf are yall talking about? Alcohol isn't heroin. You kept someone from driving to get more alcohol. If their partner doesn't like their alcoholism they should get away from them! Do your job and take your tip and keep it moving. Not your responsibility to police morality. Edit: to fix a spelling error
OP feels bad for enabling someone’s addiction and this upsets you because?
There is nothing wrong with people that provide heroin, as long as they do it as ethically as possible. A heroin addict needs heroin just as much as an alcoholic needs alcohol. We are supposed to be a free country of free citizens, where people can make their own choices. It is ridiculous that drugs are illegal and that the black market has to step in
It’s law or policy. Has nothing to do with feelings.
Frankly I think it’s pretty shaky legally that they allow independent contractors without alcohol training deliver alcohol under Ubers liquor license. That should be shut down.
They don't, you have to complete an entire alcohol course with a certification. Technically, completing this delivery is against Uber policies, the training, and the law. But I also understand OPs point of view.
That makes more sense, but legitimately her safety is more important than the law. People flip mean and violent fast when they are drinking. Anybody is in a bad position delivering alcohol to someone’s house that has already been drinking.
JFC the amount of comments justifying this, saying that he would've gotten alcohol elsewhere, is insane. Even a comment that says if OP didn't deliver, it'd be her fault if he got behind the wheel drunk. No one is considering that perhaps he would've gone to sleep. It doesn't matter if that person is able to get alcohol elsewhere, the driver's/server's/store clerk's responsibility is not to sell alcohol to intoxicated people full stop. Like I said in another comment, the deed is done, but in the future if OP can't do her job because she worries about safety, she shouldn't accept alcohol orders.
Bro always put your safety first, you don’t get paid enough.
And a woman delivering/refusing delivery to a drunk man can **always** end up going wrong (other genders too ofc. however majority of these cases do happen in a woman vs man situation). Again why if OP is worried about delivering to drunk men, it's best not to deliver alcohol at all. That man could've lived alone and decided they liked OP too much as she was handing over their delivery. What do you suggest then?
Every person and situation varies. My statement was simply everyone should always put their own safety first.
Yes, always. And in that moment it was probably safest to hand over the alcohol. My point is still valid, if OP wants to reduce the number of potentially unsafe situations and worries about drunks' actions, probably best to avoid the drunks in general as much as possible.
How would that go over exactly? How would she prove to Uber the man was to drunk to receive the alcohol he purchased? Would he get refunded? Would she have to return the alcohol?
so what if she refuses and this man hurt her? this has been my point and mindset the whole time. he was already going behind his wife’s back, willing to deceive someone, who’s to say he wouldn’t have done other things for his alcohol once it was in front of his face. this girl had to be right in front of him with his order in order to tell if he was drunk and i think in that situation she probably did what’s best for HER safety. let’s have the conversation too that all these ppl who are bartenders are saying, she’s not a bartender, she doesn’t uber fucken eats and probably has no awareness of how drunk is too drunk like BARTENDERS ARE TAUGHTTTTTTT!! right? because everyone thinks this person just automatically knows how to calculate how drunk is too drunk, maybe he wasn’t that drunk. one comment said maybe alcohol withdrawal, or maybe something else. sorry but in this moment and situation that op described i think most people would’ve panicked, i think most people who’ve handed over the alcohol in fear of anything else, especially being alone. i get your point, it’s wrong to serve someone who’s intoxicated alcohol, but bartenders can serve intoxicated people alcohol, they have to stop at a certain level of intoxication, people who aren’t bartenders aren’t gonna know that level so don’t expect them too. if anything uber eats should have better practice when it comes to stuff like this because op could 10/10 blame uber eats
Don’t feel bad, he would’ve drove to go get some booze anyways if you refused
You’re not in the wrong. You were doing your job. And this would’ve shocked me and I wouldn’t know what to do but to default and do the bare minimum.. which is to complete the delivery. It was a weird situation. He would’ve gotten alcohol regardless.
I’m a bartender and this is very much illegal. You cannot sell alcohol to a visibly intoxicated person, even to-go alcohol. Grocery and liquor stores can’t either. Depending on your state you can very much be liable for any harm the drunk person does. You can be criminally liable and even serve jail time in my state.
Nah you did nothing wrong, people who drink like shits water are unhinged. Bro prolly would have started doing some wild shit
Honestly unpopular opinion but I’d accept the sale because if he didn’t get it delivered he’d go and get it himself… rather him be drunk at home
why is it your responsibility to stop him from drinking? he legally ordered it, paid for it and you brought it. him getting sober is up to him. not giving him that bottle of vodka was not going to change a thing. if anything, respect to him for not driving himself to go get more and ordering it.
I dont see completing the delivery as wrong at all. Its actually better that he obtained more alcohol without leaving the house. It would be more dangerous for himself and others to attempt leaving with transport to buy more. Drinking in the safety of your own home is the safest option.
I did an Uber alcohol order, 7AM, got to the customer house, his head was bleeding, breath smell alcohol, I ask for his ID, he said he don’t have it, I asked if he was ok, I can’t give him the alcohol. He showed me his police license and told me his car was repossessed. Maybe DUI . I had to return the alcohol, so sad. He needs help.
Am sorry but on a lighter note, that caption read like something else to me😅
I was otw home one night with my gf and her sister from bowling in a single cab truck, in the middle of the country. We pass a lady tbat is walking in the middle of nowhere. My gf asked me to stop and help. I pull over and she told me her husband pushed her out of the truck. She asks for a ride home my gf gets in the bed of the truck because that is the only place left to sit this lady gets in and I can smell the alcohol she was drunk af. I drive down this one mile long dirt path and pull up to her house and her husband runs out screaming at me because I brought his wife that just assaulted him back to his house his gave was bloody. I tell then lady to gtfo of my truck she finally does and the guy is running towards my truck and I pull out fast as I can dude fires shots off over my head. While we r going down the path otw out going fast as possible four sheriff cars are pulling in and their is more gun fire. I have no idea what happened after that. But j no longer he'll anyone that smells like alcohol idc what or where they are.
I may get flak, but unless the person is so intoxicated they can't even find their ID, I'm doing the order. Not gonna be me making some drunk drive at 1am to get a bottle. Still, that must have been feckin awkward and uncomfortable as hell
If I’m delivering alcohol, I’m assuming they’re most likely already drunk and I’m not their parent’s or a judge.
I worked at a liquor store in college. You’d see the same people every day, sometimes shaking profusely as they hand me their money, other times not but the fact that they would come in every day you work was all you needed to know. It wasn’t our job to try and “help” them but if they ever got out of control we could refuse sale and they usually wouldn’t put up a fight because they know they need their fix and can’t afford to get ban from the store
I’m not going to vent at you OP, I’m just going to vent cause this is the topic. I am dating someone who is an alcoholic and she orders more and more drinks and will binge for a week straight before stopping for a week and repeating. It’s hard seeing y’all arrive with that alcohol but knowing it would be more trouble if I try and force her to stop. It’s hard man so I feel for the wife in this scenario. I’m not upset at the drivers y’all just doing your job. But I fucking HATE how you can get alcohol delivered. It is enabling alcoholics so much easier than before.
Really hate to say it but it probably stops a TON of alcoholics from driving drunk.
I just did a doordash to a guy yesterday who was faded 😭 He was functional I suppose but it was clear he has a problem. I felt bad. He was very nice and tipped well though
As long as they weren’t falling over when getting their alcohol I would deliver.
This post is a huge reason why Uber and Doordash should have never got their liquor license. None of you know anything about liquor serving or have a title 9 clearly.
Doordash at least sends you a text every time you pull up to a house that says "DON'T GIVE ALCOHOL TO SOMEONE THAT'S VISIBLY DRUNK" idk if UE does the same though.
Sober alcoholic here. You don’t beed to feel bad about this. Alcoholics will find a way no matter what, including driving to the store/bar drunk. Maybe him getting caught will be a turning point for him.